New CM - I'll buy it if...

[nookiebear]

the makers have got rid of these stupid bugs from the last one which saw me end up throwing it in the bin.

Regularly conceding a goal just after scoring one. Worst thing you can do is score it seems to me, as teams always go and score in the next couple of minutes, sometimes even the NEXT minute straight from the kick-off. Doesn't matter if I'm managing a conference team or 3-times Premiership champs, it happens all the time. LMA MAnager also suffered from this.

Man Utd Great Escapes - why oh why do so many players of the game I know moan about the same thing - going 3-0 or 4-0 up and the opposition comes back in the second half to draw 4-4 or even win 5-4, regardless of tactical changes you make. Sometimes I'm 4-0 up, concede a goal and know I can't stop my opponents. Funny enough though, if I'm 3-0 down, I'll get it back to 3-2, then 'hit the woodwork' in the last minute and still lose.

I'd say one in every two games I concede a goal to someone either 'making their debut' or scoring 'their first of the season' Even in May.

Last minute goals - opposition teams regularly score in the 90th minute. Again, I'd say in almost 1 in 3 matches.

High scoring games - how many times have your games been 3-3 at half time? Loads in mine, regardless of if I play 5-3-2, 3-5-2 or whatever.

The tactics button during the match - most times I press it, the opposition scores. Why?

I could go on. (and on...)

I've played it a fair bit and been successful at it, but the game has so many faults which makes it far from complete. Is the new version more realistic, Mr Nash and co?

[goteborg]

Eh...I play CM00/01 regurlary and I haven´t experienced any of those "bugs". You really got me confused now.

[Daniel_Nash]

Originally posted by nookiebear
Man Utd Great Escapes - why oh why do so many players of the game I know moan about the same thing - going 3-0 or 4-0 up and the opposition comes back in the second half to draw 4-4 or even win 5-4, regardless of tactical changes you make. Sometimes I'm 4-0 up, concede a goal and know I can't stop my opponents. Funny enough though, if I'm 3-0 down, I'll get it back to 3-2, then 'hit the woodwork' in the last minute and still lose.

They did this last weekend vs Spurs!! Man U are the best team in England on the game, and as such should be able to win a higher proportion of their games than most teams. Vaughan said to me that it should be very hard, or you must have the best team in the game, to be able to beat them.



I'd say one in every two games I concede a goal to someone either 'making their debut' or scoring 'their first of the season' Even in May.

Yes i have this, fun isn't it?! NO.



Last minute goals - opposition teams regularly score in the 90th minute. Again, I'd say in almost 1 in 3 matches.

I have this too, and my last minute goals disallowed sometimes. Oh that makes me SO happy. I have actually started to scream at the computer because of it.



High scoring games - how many times have your games been 3-3 at half time? Loads in mine, regardless of if I play 5-3-2, 3-5-2 or whatever.

The tactics button during the match - most times I press it, the opposition scores. Why?

Erm.. high scoring games, mainly due to a problem with your team selection. I am told that last minute goals are because you have selected the "wrong" player to be your captain. Not sure about that tactics button, but i find whenever i have a free kick/corner etc and the opposition make a substitution nothing happens to the set piece. It's a match engine thing, it is being stretched further with this game and i think things like this will occur... until CM4!


Is the new version more realistic, Mr Nash and co?

Yes, it is! But the odd few things will probably remain, they are not gameplay problems to my knowledge. It's just how the matches are constructed and that is changing for the release of CM4, something that we all have to put up with however annoying it is.

On a different note, since i got a new computer i have played 15 seasons of CM0001 in about 4 days (not continuously!!!) while on my old computer (this one!) it took about 2 weeks of playing (over a 6 month period) to play 18 full seasons. Ahh! ;)

[NottsEagle]

Originally posted by nookiebear
the makers have got rid of these stupid bugs from the last one which saw me end up throwing it in the bin.

Regularly conceding a goal just after scoring one. Worst thing you can do is score it seems to me, as teams always go and score in the next couple of minutes, sometimes even the NEXT minute straight from the kick-off. Doesn't matter if I'm managing a conference team or 3-times Premiership champs, it happens all the time. LMA MAnager also suffered from this.

Man Utd Great Escapes - why oh why do so many players of the game I know moan about the same thing - going 3-0 or 4-0 up and the opposition comes back in the second half to draw 4-4 or even win 5-4, regardless of tactical changes you make. Sometimes I'm 4-0 up, concede a goal and know I can't stop my opponents. Funny enough though, if I'm 3-0 down, I'll get it back to 3-2, then 'hit the woodwork' in the last minute and still lose.

I'd say one in every two games I concede a goal to someone either 'making their debut' or scoring 'their first of the season' Even in May.

Last minute goals - opposition teams regularly score in the 90th minute. Again, I'd say in almost 1 in 3 matches.

High scoring games - how many times have your games been 3-3 at half time? Loads in mine, regardless of if I play 5-3-2, 3-5-2 or whatever.

The tactics button during the match - most times I press it, the opposition scores. Why?

I could go on. (and on...)

I've played it a fair bit and been successful at it, but the game has so many faults which makes it far from complete. Is the new version more realistic, Mr Nash and co?


You can add to the above my personal bugbear - the infuritating case of the 'keeper who has served you impeccably all season - all the way up to the final or semi-final of a competition when they suddenly turn Kolinko, get a 3, 4, or 5 and lose you the game.

This happens to me ALL the time, and it doesn't matter who it is - Buffon, Carroll etc. - no-one is immune.

:grrr: :grrr: :grrr:

[nookiebear]

RE Man United Great Escape Thing - I was playing as Derby and it happened against Bradford, Pompey, Birmingham, Spurs to name a few. :grrr:

[E.X Moontoad]

Originally posted by nookiebear




The tactics button during the match - most times I press it, the opposition scores. Why?
This often happens to me too.
And how come so many goals are scored between the 40 and 45th minute?

[WorthingEagle]

Dan, the bug where a sub is made and you don't get commentary for the set-piece is still in there?? How hard would that have been to fix :rolleyes:

Those SI guys are taking liberties, the new versions should be £5-10 as its the same game with a few tweaks that must have taken all of a few hours to put in. They spend the rest of their time playing ISS Pro Evolution and paying loads of testers, then not fixing the bugs that they and every other CM player notices :hmph:

[nookiebear]

Originally posted by NottsEagle



You can add to the above my personal bugbear - the infuritating case of the 'keeper who has served you impeccably all season - all the way up to the final or semi-final of a competition when they suddenly turn Kolinko, get a 3, 4, or 5 and lose you the game.

This happens to me ALL the time, and it doesn't matter who it is - Buffon, Carroll etc. - no-one is immune.

:grrr: :grrr: :grrr:

Same again, another thing that happens a lot to me.

Another bug - if you take on a new job, sometimes there's coaches who don't seem to have a contract at the new club and you can't just get rid of them. You have to sack another coach, offer this non-contract coach a contract, get him to say yes, then fire him, before you can sign a coach you want. :grrr:

And why are players marked as 'interested' in joining often not?

[nookiebear]

Mr Nash, how do I know who makes the best captain, then, to avoid last minute goals?

What attributes, etc, should I consider?

[Daniel_Nash]

Originally posted by WorthingEagle
Dan, the bug where a sub is made and you don't get commentary for the set-piece is still in there?? How hard would that have been to fix :rolleyes:

Those SI guys are taking liberties, the new versions should be £5-10 as its the same game with a few tweaks that must have taken all of a few hours to put in. They spend the rest of their time playing ISS Pro Evolution and paying loads of testers, then not fixing the bugs that they and every other CM player notices :hmph:

Yeah, i think i mentioned that earlier. How about you go have a burn at fixing it :) Apparently it's hard to fix things like that because it affects a lot of other things and in the end it is just easier to leave it as it is without risking anything else.

Hahaha ISS Pro, its a great game ;) Sadly i don't understand Japanese so i didn't play it much. There are forums to report bugs and suggestions. While i was there, for 5 weeks, i reported a few things and so did everyone else. I think that most will be sorted as much as they can.

[Daniel_Nash]

Originally posted by nookiebear
Mr Nash, how do I know who makes the best captain, then, to avoid last minute goals?

What attributes, etc, should I consider?

Leadership, Influence, Determination.. erm.. *runs to his game to check*... Decisions, Teamwork and Workrate.

Also, there are hidden attributes you can see through the editor of Ambition and Loyalty.

[Benzhiyi]

Nookiebear, you've jinxed me mate... as if to prove a point, when I switched CM on this morning my very first match ended as below:

Total Borussia domination, until I pressed the tactics button in the 82nd minute. Sure enough, Bayern scored straight away...

Then in the 93rd minute came their last minute winner

AND my goalie, Lehmann, was sh*te what with it being a cup semi final

grrrrrrrrr

[Benzhiyi]

Btw.... it is me playing it if you're wondering about the name... Nick Brautlecht is a mate of mine and my German CM alias. Yes I am strange :p

[Gavin Axten]

Another bug I have come across, I can be leading the division by a mile having only lost one match up until December/January then all of a sudden I start losing easy games and only end up winning the championship by around 3-5 points after being 15 points clear in December

[CM_Addicted]

A lot of these can be classed as being paranoid I'm afraid!!

[Gavin Axten]

Mine cannot be paranoia, it happens everytime even though i'm playing the exact team i've used to be virtually unbeaten up until December

[CM_Addicted]

Kevin Keegan said the same when he was managing Newcastle........

A 'bug' is a fault in the code - which that problem is not.

It's all based on form etc and other teams playing tactics to counter-act yours. It may have too strong an influence in the game in your oppinion, but it isnt a 'bug'.

[RDSdaEAGLE]

Another stupid thing...I was Polonia manager, and 1-0 up at half time...

[CPFC_R_GREAT]

I suggest you need more discipline in your ranks!

[nookiebear]

Originally posted by Gavin Axten
Another bug I have come across, I can be leading the division by a mile having only lost one match up until December/January then all of a sudden I start losing easy games and only end up winning the championship by around 3-5 points after being 15 points clear in December

Had that too. Had turned Rushden And Diamonds into UK's biggest side. Three Championships in four years, four Champions League trophies in a row. Next season, strengenthed side even more, mauling every team until February, then, all of a sudden, lose three in a row, couple of draws and I finish second.

No tactical changes, could stop the rot.

Suddenly got that 4/10 for my keepers every game

[Eagles Fan]

When's it coming out then?

[nookiebear]

Technically it is not a bug, but it bugs me! (boom boom)

I actually think it's the working of a warped mind trying to make the game more exciting, but it actually makes it more frustratiing.

My biggest annoyance, though, is conceding almost immediately after scoring. Also in a lot games, I hit the 'Start Game' icon, and it flashes up about two bits of commentary and then they score.

First minute goals are usually the stuff of record books in real-life, but if my CM game was real, the Guiness Book Of Records mob would be chopping down whole forests to add all those new entries.

I would say it's paranoia CM but it happens too often for that. But they reallyare out to get you, you know!

[CM_Addicted]

Incredibly frustrating, but it could happen!!

These things can't be claimed as bugs!

Most of the problems listed are all just about being unlucky - as you can be in real life!!

Man Utd Great Escapes - why oh why do so many players of the game I know moan about the same thing - going 3-0 or 4-0 up and the opposition comes back in the second half to draw 4-4 or even win 5-4, regardless of tactical changes you make. Sometimes I'm 4-0 up, concede a goal and know I can't stop my opponents. Funny enough though, if I'm 3-0 down, I'll get it back to 3-2, then 'hit the woodwork' in the last minute and still lose.

Your players are getting tired by the sounds of it. Try going defensive, taking your players off pressing and get men behind the ball. I can snatch great away victories like this.

I'd say one in every two games I concede a goal to someone either 'making their debut' or scoring 'their first of the season' Even in May.

This one I must admit, I do find suspicous!!

Last minute goals - opposition teams regularly score in the 90th minute. Again, I'd say in almost 1 in 3 matches.

Again, tactics or tiredness. Daniel even suggested it could be to do with your captain.

High scoring games - how many times have your games been 3-3 at half time? Loads in mine, regardless of if I play 5-3-2, 3-5-2 or whatever.

It does happen, but so does it in real life. It doesn't happen too often to be really unrealistic.

The tactics button during the match - most times I press it, the opposition scores. Why?

I've thought this before, but then I realised I hit the tactics button to change tactics normally when I'm under a lot of pressure and you can sense a goal comming. I think if you actually see how many times you hit the tactics button without them scoring, I'll think you will agree that we are all just being paranoid on this one!

the infuritating case of the 'keeper who has served you impeccably all season - all the way up to the final or semi-final of a competition when they suddenly turn Kolinko, get a 3, 4, or 5 and lose you the game.

Check his stats to see how he handles pressure. Sounds like your keepers arnt up to the big games. I don't believe it happens EVERYTIME in a semi final or big game - if that was the case, you would never win anything!!

the bug where a sub is made and you don't get commentary for the set-piece is still in there??

Is a problem - I found it used to happen in the game as well. Supposedly its when the team has an indirect free kick so no action takes place. In CM01/02 i've noticed the commentry says the free kick is indirect, so you know why you do see any events occur after its taken.

Another bug - if you take on a new job, sometimes there's coaches who don't seem to have a contract at the new club and you can't just get rid of them. You have to sack another coach, offer this non-contract coach a contract, get him to say yes, then fire him, before you can sign a coach you want.

Genuine bug.

Don't get me wrong - I'm not trying to be a smart arse here, I also sit there screaming at my PC after I let in two 90 mins goals in the Champions League final, but if you are like me, you feel that if your in the final then you have the right to win it - same if you have been top of the league for ages and it is so frustrating when it is taken away from you and you know that it will affect your manager reputation and you wont get that summer move to Real Madrid like you were hoping.

Damn! If it annoys us this much in a game - imagine what it must be like in real life! At least the refs are more realistic in the game than they are in the Premiership! ;)

[Benny B Block]

You usually know whether you will concede an early goal if the opening commentary says something like 'Man Utd look to attack from the start'.

Within 10 minutes you will be losing.

[brighton_eagle]

Originally posted by nookiebear


Had that too. Had turned Rushden And Diamonds into UK's biggest side. Three Championships in four years, four Champions League trophies in a row.

Realistic then....:rolleyes:

Originally posted by nookiebear

Next season, strengenthed side even more, mauling every team until February, then, all of a sudden, lose three in a row, couple of draws and I finish second.

No tactical changes, could stop the rot.

Suddenly got that 4/10 for my keepers every game

I don't see this as a bug at all. Everything can be going well, then you lose one, then you lose another, and suddenley you are in the middle of a losing run and everything is going wrong. Real life mate. :p

Keepers are all about form and confidence. Once it's gone, it can be very difficult to get back.

Anyway, do you want to win everything all the time? That would get pretty dull pretty quick, don't you think??

It's not a bug that you suddenly start losing games.

[willythesqueeze]

Originally posted by nookiebear

The tactics button during the match - most times I press it, the opposition scores. Why?



I'm glad someone else has noticed this. It's not paranoia, it really happens. If the opposition is attacking and you press tactics they invariably score. Bloody annoying!

[nookiebear]

Originally posted by brighton_eagle


Realistic then....:rolleyes:
Anyway, do you want to win everything all the time?

Yes :)

Originally posted by brighton_eagle
It's not a bug that you suddenly start losing games.

Course it is :)

[CM_Addicted]

I wanna win every game against every team with a really poor squad that is only playing good because of my great tactical brain.

I also want to score in the 90min and it would be really nice if I could see the computer manager shouting that it must be a bug when I sneak a cheeky 1-0 away win when I've only had 1 shot on target compared to his 24!!

:p :D

[CPFC_R_GREAT]

Originally posted by CM_Addicted
I also want to score in the 90min and it would be really nice if I could see the computer manager shouting that it must be a bug when I sneak a cheeky 1-0 away win when I've only had 1 shot on target compared to his 24!!

:p :D

Now that is annoying when they do that!! Usually its Bruce Dyer of all people thats hits the target say they have 3 shots 3 on Goal and yes 3 goals they'll always win 2-3 even if i've had 15 shots all on target! :grrr:

[Stephenson Soundbyter]

I know its only CM3 but I had this happen today:

90th minute.

Losing 1-0 in cup semi

My player is hacked down in the area.

Penalty given

Defender sent off

Substitute brought on for an attacker

FINAL WHISTLE!!!

Lose 1-0

Has this been sorted?

[CM_Addicted]

Originally posted by Stephenson Soundbyter

Has this been sorted?

Never seen it happen, so I guess so.

[Daniel_Nash]

It is Cm3 though, they have had plenty of time to sort it.

When i was reporting bugs they were very responsive to them and came to talk to me about them, and either explained or said they'd fix them.

[nookiebear]

Would never of thought of you as a CM player, Mr Soundbyter

[RDSdaEAGLE]

Originally posted by nookiebear

High scoring games - how many times have your games been 3-3 at half time? Loads in mine, regardless of if I play 5-3-2, 3-5-2 or whatever.


Yeah...look at this high score-line :

[Daniel_Nash]

I got CM0102 today (Wednesday) :p and will be playing it ALL night :) :)

[Joe Knight]

Originally posted by Daniel_Nash
I got CM0102 today (Wednesday) :p and will be playing it ALL night :) :)

could you let us all know how the palace team and staff shape up

i understand that a patch is being released for Friday with more up to date transfers etc

[brighton_eagle]

Originally posted by Daniel_Nash
I got CM0102 today (Wednesday) :p and will be playing it ALL night :) :)

Pheww

I'm in 2028 in my game at the moment so I could certainly do with a new version!!

:D :D

[Daniel_Nash]

Originally posted by Joe Knight


could you let us all know how the palace team and staff shape up

i understand that a patch is being released for Friday with more up to date transfers etc

[Stephenson Soundbyter]

Originally posted by nookiebear
Would never of thought of you as a CM player, Mr Soundbyter

Whyever not?

I enjoy a bit of stimulation even at my advanced age ;)

[Stephenson Soundbyter]

Originally posted by Joe Knight



i understand that a patch is being released for Friday with more up to date transfers etc

Can anyone explain how to utilise these?

I have often downloaded them and then just get stuck

[CM_Addicted]

Morrison on 1k a week!!!! Yeah right!! Especially seeing Aki is earning over 17k!

Oh well, at least they put Austin as a D RC.

SS, you just have to double-click on the file you downloaded.