it's all gone quiet over there.

[dartford palace]

what nothing to add this morning, where are you then ,over the last few weeks Albion Dan,Kelvin Morton and Spanish se7 have been mouthing off about how sh*t palace are but not today.

Look Dartford, it's really very simple. Stick with us, match our 4-1 results from now until the end of the season and about the time when we're celebrating the championship you'll have pulled yourself up to lower mid-table. Anything less, and you will be playing us next season. If you can keep pace with us from now on, it may at least be the year after in Div 1, which I personally would prefer anyway.

[anti-addick]

If we were in your sh*t division we'd do more than keep pace with you. Carlisle are such a tough club to beat at home.

Originally posted by anti-addick:
If we were in your sh*t division we'd do more than keep pace with you. Carlisle are such a tough club to beat at home.And whom did you play then cowboy ?

[Gooders]

Originally posted by SPANISH_SE7:
And whom did you play then cowboy ?



Whereas the mighty Chortleton won 2-0 against those giants of the game, Bradford.

Oh how we envy you.

Tart.

Moody !

No point getting results against the likes of Newcasltle and Spurs if you can't beat the likes of Bradford. But then that's wasn't your angle was it, just another jealous sticken eaglet who has just had his / her wings snipped, what a spotty little nigel

Originally posted by Gooders:
[BOh how we envy you.[/B]

18 Preiership points from 12 games plays 12 nationwide points from 16 games - we know your envious Gooders !!!!!!

[Gooders]

Yes that's right - we all secretly want to be anoraks at the Valley!

By the way - 2 players offside for your first goal on Saturday.

Looking forward to seeing you play someone good soon.

[Chris K]

From when I've been to the Valley there seem to be 2 types of supporter. The under 16 and the over 60 which categorey do you lot fit into?

Originally posted by Gooders:
Looking forward to seeing you play someone good soon.

Something that won't be happening to Palace as you have to play all your games in the Nationwide - enjoy the struggle.

Originally posted by Kelvin Morton:
Apologies, missed a bit of an open goal earlier. Evidently, we are all still here Dartford, but....where exactly have you been for the last 3 months?



More like where has been all his life ! One result and they think they could beat Moan U.

As for you Top Eagle, where do you get your ideas from ? We pissed the league last time, starting a winning streak against you muppets last Boxing Day ! Fair play to you on your result this weekend though, as I mentioned above, there's no point getting creditable draws against Bolton away, if you can't beat teams in your own mini league ( not meant to be a compliment - just fact ) Now that you humbled Wednesday you need to back it up with another 3 or 4 wins, then you'll be turning the corner, until then you'll still be considered relegation fodder ( on results this season ).

Carlisle are such a tough club to beat at home.[/B]

So are Grimsby.

Originally posted by Kelvin Morton:
So are Grimsby.


And Burnley !

[Top Eagle]

I think it is fair to say that Charlton were champions last year - FACT

Palace have looked good without getting the results - FACT

Agreed we need a few more wins to back up the 3 results we have had this week.

I just hope that this is the turning point of our season, because we have had to put up with Charlton and the Faggots from the south coast for far too long. Keep dishing it out though, I for one cant wait to have the last laugh.

Early days, who knows what the season will bring.

Heres a prediction, 3-1 Ipswich on saturday.
I think you will be saved by the likes of Derby and Bradford this season, they are far worse than the rest of the prem, still you will do well not to claim the 3rd spot.

[Top Eagle]

By the way, Kelvin you poof, Grimsby would stuff your bunch of arse bandits, you are in no position to take the p!ss, 3RD DIVISION and staying there.

All I really care about this season is us going up. Palarse's current series of comedy routines and all the off-field stuff is just a huge bonus. In fact, I don't know any football fans who aren't taking the p*ss out of Palarse at the moment.

Originally posted by Top Eagle:
By the way, Kelvin you poof, Grimsby would stuff your bunch of arse bandits, you are in no position to take the p!ss, 3RD DIVISION and staying there.

Maybe, maybe not, but then again Crawley beat you so I think i'd tread carefully.

Originally posted by Top Eagle:
still you will do well not to claim the 3rd spot.

Top Eagle, even I know there are other teams apart from Man. Utd. & Arsenal that are better than us !!!!!!

You really are hoping that we end up in a relegation fight, don't you ???
Sadly it is just another one of your dreams.

[Top Eagle]

The only reason why I would want you to come down is so that certain Charlton fans would have to swallow some pride and take some of the cr@p back.

As a club (forgetting the supporters for a minute) I would like to see you stay up, I rate your manager and some of your players and I think they deserve it.

So I am 50/50 for wanting charlton back down.

Spanish, it is a long time since the Crawley result and we have come a long way since then, we are still moving forward so there is really no need for me to even remember that result, other than the fact than I was there and it was embarrasing to say the least.

Brighton are not good Spanish, they would not get anywhere in the 2nd if they did go up so there is really no argument.

[Gooders]

Originally posted by Kelvin Morton:
In fact, I don't know any football fans

You got that right, tosser.

Originally posted by Top Eagle:

Brighton are not good Spanish, they would not get anywhere in the 2nd if they did go up so there is really no argument.


Like you have a f**king clue. Only 'form line' is Millwall (lost 3-2 on agg, superb 1-1 at their place). They are one of the best teams in Div 2, and I seem to recall a recent 6-0? We're a long way from up yet, but if we do this team would stay up comfortably. If you knew what you were talking about you'd know that the likes of Rotherham, Northampton etc aren't exactly propping up the table. But you don't, so just listen and learn about Div 2, might yet come in useful soon.

[Top Eagle]

The question is what will happen when your "good start" comes to an end??

Our "bad start" is well documented because nobody expects us to be in that situation, but what happens when your Start, stops??

As for quality, Bradford are really cr@p and I think they would struggle against a lot of sides in Div 1, as I think you would not walk over a lot of Div 1 sides. Remember you are not the elite until you have been there a few seasons, you are really a glorified div 1 side.

Still good luck to you, I hope Palace follow suit, but it isnt going to take as long as your club, what was it 5 years or something.

Originally posted by Top Eagle:
[B I think you would not walk over a lot of Div 1 sides. Remember you are not the elite until you have been there a few seasons, you are really a glorified div 1 side.[/B]

I think you will find that we are the current Nationwide League CHAMPIONS !!!!!

We walked all over that League last season and have built a sronger squad this season - to the tune of £12 million,

Please refrain from posting total cr*p Top Eagle. Eat humble pie and accept that we currently p*ss all over Palace - FACT

Originally posted by dartford palace:
what nothing to add this morning, where are you then


Apologies, missed a bit of an open goal earlier. Evidently, we are all still here Dartford, but....where exactly have you been for the last 3 months?

Originally posted by Kelvin Morton:
but....where exactly have you been for the last 3 months?


ROFL !!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Top Eagle:
The only reason why I would want you to come down is so that certain Charlton fans would have to swallow some pride and take some of the cr@p back.

As a club (forgetting the supporters for a minute) I would like to see you stay up, I rate your manager and some of your players and I think they deserve it.

So I am 50/50 for wanting charlton back down.

Spanish, it is a long time since the Crawley result and we have come a long way since then, we are still moving forward so there is really no need for me to even remember that result, other than the fact than I was there and it was embarrasing to say the least.

Brighton are not good Spanish, they would not get anywhere in the 2nd if they did go up so there is really no argument.


2 things Top Eagle, the Crawley jibe was just for a laugh. But in KM's defense, to say how Brighton would / could fare against Grimsby is hypothetical. What you should remember though is that teams going up tend to have 'honeymoon' periods and sometimes it see's them right. Teams that go down however, often, Shef Wed & Blackburn, classic
examples of this, find it harder ! Until you are safe, I'd tread a little more carefully there.

Lastly, please scour through all these pages and quote either me where I have stated we were certain to maintain our premiership status. 4th from bottom would be a fantastic achievement. Our foundations are built and my club is now on the next phase. Unlike Palace ( Goldberg ) who thought buying extravagant players like Lombardo would see them right ! Thank you nonetheless for your wish for my club to do well.

[budgie]

Spanish I agree Palace made many bad buys when they were in the Premier, but I don't know anyone who thought Lombardo was one of them.

He remains one of the best signings we ever made, and it was a joy to see him in a Palace shirt.

You may have a slight point with Brolin and Padavano though. http://www.cpfc.org/ubb/wink.gif

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[fieldy]

Originally posted by SPANISH_SE7:
More like where has been all his life ! One result and they think they could beat Moan U.

As for you Top Eagle, where do you get your ideas from ? We pissed the league last time, starting a winning streak against you muppets last Boxing Day ! Fair play to you on your result this weekend though, as I mentioned above, there's no point getting creditable draws against Bolton away, if you can't beat teams in your own mini league ( not meant to be a compliment - just fact ) Now that you humbled Wednesday you need to back it up with another 3 or 4 wins, then you'll be turning the corner, until then you'll still be considered relegation fodder ( on results this season ).



You did ever so well to edge 2 games by one goal against a team in administration, unsure as to whether it had a future the following year, made up of loan players and youth team, I truly believe that is the sort of form needed to ensure a long and prosperous stay in the Premier League. Go get em Chortletown, you're Ace !!!!!

By the way prior to last year exactly when was the last time you got any kind of result against us ??? I remember when fond memories the day Ray Houghton scored within three minutes to end your playoff dream, twas the day your star player, Lee Bowyer wore woolly gloves in May !!!!!!!!!

YOU QUEENS !!!

[winners]

Lovey Boy Kelvin, unfortunately we may not know as much about the third division as you, but then again, you must be an expert by now!!

[Top Eagle]

Spanish, firstly why back up the poofs from the coast. What is it safety in numbers?? As for harping on about friendly results, we have been there and done that, its an old story.

Do yourself a favour distance yourself from the pub side by the sea, you will lose all credibility.

Spanish, you have told us that your club is so financially sound and we would do so well to copy you, well no thanks, I think you are in debt again, or is that just tabloid speculation??

Rent boy (Kelvin) I watch the nationwide league extra and see your sorry bunch of shirt lifters chasing each other round the
pitch. Other than that, you're right I no nothing about the 3rd or the 2nd division, but then hey, we dont need to know.

Originally posted by Top Eagle:
Spanish, you have told us that your club is so financially sound and we would do so well to copy you, well no thanks, I think you are in debt again, or is that just tabloid speculation??

Top Eagle - get your facts right - We are not in DEBT, we made a trading loss on the year, that is all. This was mainly due to bonuses paid to the CHAMPIONS and the extra players we brought in once promotion looked likely and hence we took a calculated risk on this extra spending. The extra revenues from TV in the Premiership has easily covered the overspend of last year.

Here is the FACT - Charlton Athletic have Cash at Bank and in hand of £ 4,586,000

Hardly in debt are we ?????

Palace on the other hand ???????

[Statto]

Originally posted by No.1 in South London:
Top Eagle - get your facts right - We are not in DEBT, we made a trading loss on the year, that is all. This was mainly due to bonuses paid to the CHAMPIONS and the extra players we brought in once promotion looked likely and hence we took a calculated risk on this extra spending. The extra revenues from TV in the Premiership has easily covered the overspend of last year.

Here is the FACT - Charlton Athletic have Cash at Bank and in hand of £ 4,586,000

Hardly in debt are we ?????

Palace on the other hand ???????

How do you know that have you got the cashcard? how much do you reckon palace have then?



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Statto - it's in the financial accounts statement that was published.

As for Palace - it would be interesting, that's all. I just wonder how much Simon Jordan is prepared to blow, especially as things are not going according to plan - yet.
It is alledged that you are still spunk*ng around £30,000 every week.

I have said it before and I'll say it again, but until you "OWN" your ground, you will continue to find it hard to make ends meet.

[walderslade eagle]

Originally posted by No.1 in South London:


Here is the FACT - Charlton Athletic have Cash at Bank and in hand of £ 4,586,000

Hardly in debt are we ?????

Palace on the other hand ???????

Just because the account stands at that value doesn't mean you're not in debt, there's always two sides to any balance sheet. Are you saying you don't owe anybody anything as well?

Fair point, I'll post the balance sheet if you're interested.
BTW - we just spent another £700,000 on Mark Fish yesterday and there are still further funds available.

Top Eagle in response to your quoe "there will not be (as I am told, it may not be gospel) a lot of difference in payments between a year in the prem and your first year back in div 1, now as you say, you have bought more players, and on a weekly basis you are paying more in wages, so where is the extra revenue going to come from, you are full to the rafters at every home game, so you can not expand there."

Parachute payment from TV last season in the First division was £1.7M - this season in the Premiership TV revenue at least £9M + extra revenue for each position we finish up the League. I have every confidence in the prudence of our board of Directors (something that has been lacking at Selhurst for a number of years, I think you'll agree).
As for Mark Fish - I saw him against us twice at the Reebok last season and thought he wasn't up to much. However I have limited football management skills and am prepared to put my faith in Alan Curbishley ( again someone we as Charlton fans have complete confidence in).

[Top Eagle]

No.2, fair play, as I said I did not know the figures, I was sure however that it was more than that, but you obviously have the figures and I dont.

Fish, know what you mean, seems a strange buy, but Curbs obviously sees something that you average layman doesnt, will have to wait and see.

Top Eagle - the numbers are from the published accounts. In total we received £3.2M from TV last season the £1.7 was the parachute payment and the rest from First division coverage. The Premiership guarantees at least £9M (probably more) and I guess that is why the board were so keen to use the extra funds last season. The extra revenue makes all the difference. I also know that clubs such as Everton are running up debts of tens of millions, our modest finances look well balanced in comparison.
My main question to you is :- how much will SJ be prepared to gamble to reap the rewards of the Premiership - there has to be a limit before he cuts his losses. He is after all supporting the financing of the club and until you can generate enough funds from the football club (IMHO this won't happen until you are in complete ownership of a stadium) he will continue to eat into own funds. This will not continue indefiately.

[Top Eagle]

Not owning the ground does not make a difference bar the rent money. Jordan is not the sort of bloke to turn around and say he has failed, he will give it eveything until he succeeds (IMHO). What we are looking at here is a blinkered view opposition fans on here have, we have a very wealthy backer, he is a palace fan, was on the books of palace as a youngster, was born in the whitehorse road, his parents are south london born and bred and he went to school in Purley.

He has dreamed about owning our club for a long time. He is not going to do a runner. He built a business up from nothing to sell it for 70 odd million and also had a good few million in his account before then.

HE IS NOT GOLDBERG!!!!

This guy is 35 and loves getting his hands dirty, I believe he will sell us, but as a profit making company and for a profit to himself.

Open your mind a bit, if you support charlton and had the money would you buy it??

[anti-addick]

#2, you don't know what you're talking about. I suppose Al Fayed is running into trouble then with his 13,000 average and big spending plans?

Jordan has plenty, you're just jealous because you know that we'll be back at you soon and it won't be long before the old ways sink back in, ie, us buying your best players from you. As for owning the stadium, SJ done a deal with Noades before the purchase that we take in all the catering revenues and pay a rent, that's all. It's not the kind of difference that will plummet us into massive debts. Buying overpaid expensive players who aren't up to it is the main reason for clubs getting into trouble and talking of that......

.....Fish is proven Div 1, which is good for you because it's where you'll be playing next season, Turdishley is thinking in advance.

[fieldy]

Chortletown Fairies will you not answer my question, Lee Bowyer, Woolly gloves on a warm May evening, What gives???????

[Top Eagle]

No.2, listen, our chairman is loaded, your balance sheet is small change to a man like him.

That is not really the point I was making, yourselves (the Chalton contingent) are saying that you are a role model for us all and that we will not make it unless we follow your lead (dont bother quoting me on that, it is taken more as my idea of some of the comments since I have been reading the BBS)

A trading loss is not a good thing whichever way you look at it, there will not be (as I am told, it may not be gospel) a lot of difference in payments between a year in the prem and your first year back in div 1, now as you say, you have bought more players, and on a weekly basis you are paying more in wages, so where is the extra revenue going to come from, you are full to the rafters at every home game, so you can not expand there.

As for a ground, the rent obviously costs, but we earn the same amount as you from your ground, i.e. 100% of all earnings on matchday and other events around the club for Crystal Palace. The only reasons why SJ would need the ground is 1) to stop the rent payments and 2) to borrow against (i.e. as a guarantee for a loan) but with a bank balance like his he does not need that.

SJ will buy selhurst when the price is right for him, but he has 10 years to do it, Noades says he wants £12m, but it is actually worth nearer £8m, Noades has also said that Wimbledon are interested, but SJ knows they can not afford it.

As for losing 30k a week, I have heard this figure being banded about as well and it may well be true, that will not go on forever, we are 4months out of admin where we were losing £20k per week, we have added 7 players and a few more on loan, for the cost of £10k a week?? I dont think so, if we had'nt signed them we would probably be down to about 5-10k per week or even less. We are nowhere near the finished article revenue wise, so I think things are progressing rather than going backwards, I think SJ knows that and wont be bailing out in the near future.

Mark Fish, not sure about him, what do you think, a good buy??

Originally posted by Top Eagle:
No.2, listen, our chairman is loaded, your balance sheet is small change to a man like him.



err, wasn't that said about your last chairman ???????

[walderslade eagle]

Originally posted by Coke Addick:
err, wasn't that said about your last chairman ???????



Yes, but the difference is that SJ has hard cash, not money based on shares in his own company.

[Gooders]

Originally posted by No.1 in South London:
we just spent another £700,000 on Mark Fish yesterday...

I doubt that he'll help to keep your heads above the water!

Seriously though, he's pants. What a waste of money.

[Statto]

Official Statistics in from a more realible and believeable source than your's

Official CPFC balance:
£67,980,900,002.56



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