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Baloo
28-06-2001, 05:15 PM
I know the Muse album was out over a week ago, but I've just come back from hollibobs, and am surprised that no one has started a thread about it.
It is definitely one of the best noisy guitar albums from the last few years.
Buy it.
Lenny
28-06-2001, 05:16 PM
Or in true student-tax dodger style, download it for free on the net. :D
NO1FAN
28-06-2001, 05:19 PM
Where from Lenny???
Lenny
28-06-2001, 05:22 PM
I've been using Morpheus since Napster "shut down". I got the whole Muse album using it. Definately a worthy Napster replacement.
I was called 'Worried'
28-06-2001, 08:44 PM
I use Morpheus, and Muse are one of my favorite bands.
The albums called Origin of symetry by the way, favorite song on it is Citizen erased.
PENGE P
28-06-2001, 08:47 PM
Originally posted by Baloo
I know the Muse album was out over a week ago, but I've just come back from hollibobs, and am surprised that no one has started a thread about it.
It is definitely one of the best noisy guitar albums from the last few years.
Buy it.
Bought it as soon as it was out and have not stopped playing it, yep its brilliant
Gooders
28-06-2001, 08:47 PM
Haven't stopped listening to it for a week.
Originally I didn't think it was as good as their first album but now I think I prefer it.
Radiohead - who are ya?
WorthingEagle
28-06-2001, 09:00 PM
Radiohead S**T all over Muse. Matt Bellamy is just a Thom Yorke wannabe, who thinks he's some kind of guitar god. The first album was great but I'm reluctant to buy the new one cos he is such an arrogant a**ehole, I think I'll buy a second copy of Amnesiac instead and just download Muse's album so Thom and the boys get my money and not Bellamy.
Palace
28-06-2001, 09:34 PM
I do not normally like this sort of music, cos im into more heavy stuff, but with muse i make an exception. i like how they have their own sound, not copying anything that has been done before. Got showbiz and liked it, sounds like i may LOVE this!
Radiohead??????? Are you having a laugh!!!! They are APPALLING!!!:grrr:
Palace
28-06-2001, 09:39 PM
And also, ive been using Audiogalaxy since Napster left, not to sure about it. Is Morpheus much better? Whats the Address?
Cheers
Gooders
28-06-2001, 09:43 PM
Well of course we have different opinions and that's what it's all about but as a former devotee of Radiohead I can only say that the last two albums have been absolutely dreadful and on Amnesiac, there is only one track that I can listen to - and if that track had been on "OK Computer", I'd still have labelled it as the weakest track on the album.
They have lost the plot completely and hearing Thom Yorke wailing away on TOTP is, quite frankly, embarrassing in the extreme.
Just my opinion of course.
I was called 'Worried'
28-06-2001, 09:47 PM
Fav muse song?
Muscle museum.
others?
Men At Work
28-06-2001, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by Gooders
I can only say that the last two albums have been absolutely dreadful
I've only got into Radiohead over the last few months and, surprisingly, it was 'Kid A' that did it for me. But then I suppose that's why I sit in the upper tier ;)
Gooders
29-06-2001, 12:34 AM
Originally posted by Men At Work
I've only got into Radiohead over the last few months and, surprisingly, it was 'Kid A' that did it for me. But then I suppose that's why I sit in the upper tier
And probably why I'm leaving the upper tier!
As I said, each to their own.
Histrionic, OTT vocals. Bombastic orchestration. Pompous lyrics. Overblown anthemic songs....
Never mind them being Radiohead wannabees, Muse ARE Queen.
I was called 'Worried'
29-06-2001, 01:11 AM
Nah - Muse are probably the best band I've heard for a long time.
Originally posted by Men At Work
I've only got into Radiohead over the last few months and, surprisingly, it was 'Kid A' that did it for me
Graham, you're a scary, scary man.
WorthingEagle
29-06-2001, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by The Doctor
Graham, you're a scary, scary man.
maybe he just doesnt have a closed mind to good music. Some people like to sing along, some people like to LISTEN. A song doesn't have to have a pretty melody to be good.
Kid A and Amnesiac are great records, Radiohead are not a rock band anymore and don't pretend to be. I bet they're glad they have less fans than they used to because I doubt they wanted those kind of fans anyway, what I like to call "the masses" ;)
The sort of people who buy middle of the road rubbish like Travis.
1f4d
Gooders
29-06-2001, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by WorthingEagle
maybe he just doesnt have a closed mind to good music.
Typical psued's corner quote...
Some people like to sing along, some people like to LISTEN. A song doesn't have to have a pretty melody to be good.
Of course it doesn't, but Radiohead are taking the piss with what they've released recently - if those are the best 20 or so tracks from the alleged 100 they recorded before releasing Kid A, then Christ alone knows what the rest of them are like!
Kid A and Amnesiac are great records, Radiohead are not a rock band anymore and don't pretend to be. I bet they're glad they have less fans than they used to because I doubt they wanted those kind of fans anyway, what I like to call "the masses"
Another quote that belongs in Pseud's corner...sounds to me like another angry young person trying desperately to be different to me.
My 16 year old son has convinced himself that he likes Kid A and Amnesiac and said "once you've listened to them quite a lot of times they do get better"...I'm afraid I simply haven't got the patience to listen to a group of guys going through the motions and putting no thought at all into what they are doing in the sure and certain knowledge that a hardcore of fans will find meaning where there is none.
In a few years time when they come out and say "**** knows what we were doing then, we lost it for a while there", what will you say then?
Who said "Muse are Queen"? Quite a bit of truth in that - but what's wrong with being inspired by one of the best bands of the last few decades?
WorthingEagle
29-06-2001, 10:54 PM
No thought into it? You clearly don't know a lot about music if you think Kid A and Amnesiac is "going through the motions". The Top 40, and wank such as Travis is going through the motions, I like something a little bit more interesting, and as a musician something I wouldn't think of myself.
Radiohead have moved on, and they won't be going back, they still enjoy playing the old stuff and in a live set it really complements the new stuff, but they won't be writing another OK-computer-a-like.
I'm not an angry young person trying to be different, if I was then I wouldn't listen to stuff that my dad does, such as Steely Dan, Led Zeppelin, Jools Holland etc. I just like good music that took a bit of ingenuity and talent to put together, and radiohead falls into that category. Muse are good but Matt Bellamy isn't fit to lace Thom's shoes.
WorthingEagle
29-06-2001, 10:59 PM
And whats wrong with an album you have to listen to many times to appreciate all its nuances? Isn't it better to have an album that sounds different every time you play it and starts to make sense over time than a boring collection of 12 songs that aren't worth listening to twice?
I don't mind the odd Nirvana/Feeder/Stereophonics straight-ahead rock out but only once in a while, because I've heard it all before.
I was called 'Worried'
30-06-2001, 05:50 AM
If you want to download some Muse music videos, go to fallingdown.co.uk, and select video. The quality of the streaaming is very good, especially with Muscle museum.
Gooders
30-06-2001, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by WorthingEagle
You clearly don't know a lot about music...
I am probably twice your age.
I have nearly 1000 CD's ranging from ABBA to the ZOMBIES.
I'm with the vast majority who are not even tempted by the fact that you can see Kid A on sale for 6.99 in loads of outlets these days - if that makes me part of "the masses" then so be it; I don't care.
But when you are in such a tiny minority, don't try to tell me that it's you who knows all about music because you're fooling yourself.
Anyway, must dash now - I'm off to cut the kids in half...if I can just remember where I parked the car.
:D
WorthingEagle
01-07-2001, 01:24 PM
If you have an Abba album then well that kind of proves my point, I wouldn't sink so low. Don't quote record sales, it just means they've sold records to every idiot and this world is full of them, how else do you explain hear'say.
You'll be going to party in the park next mate ;)
If you have 1000 CD's maybe that just means you have lower standards, and will listen to any old rubbish, and as you say you're twice my age so of course you'll have a lot more, doesn't mean you know a lot more about music.
I also write and produce music in my spare time and while I'm a few years off a professional standard, with only a grands worth of equipment I do alright, so I think that gives me an insight into just how much ingenuity goes into a Radiohead album, if you can't enjoy the incredible "Pyramid Song" then its your loss. Oh sorry the time signature might be a bit too clever, not 4/4 is it.
Neil MacQueen
01-07-2001, 04:57 PM
Ive asked for Muse for my bday next week. They are class.
Gooders
01-07-2001, 07:45 PM
Originally posted by WorthingEagle
If you have an Abba album then well that kind of proves my point, I wouldn't sink so low. Don't quote record sales, it just means they've sold records to every idiot and this world is full of them, how else do you explain hear'say.
You'll be going to party in the park next mate ;)
If you have 1000 CD's maybe that just means you have lower standards, and will listen to any old rubbish, and as you say you're twice my age so of course you'll have a lot more, doesn't mean you know a lot more about music.
Oh sorry the time signature might be a bit too clever, not 4/4 is it.
I think we should probably terminate this argument before it gets out of hand - I doubt that the members of Muse or Radiohead give a toss what you and I think.
From my perspective (I'm not a talented musician like you and clearly owning an Abba recording is a terrible sin - if you were old enough to have heard of the Zombies, you'd say much the same about them), the point of music is to reach out to people and get some form of message across.
From your perspective, the point seems to be the complexity of the time signature, and the avoidance of 4/4 at all costs.
It's hardly any wonder then, that I am inspired and lifted up by what Muse do; whereas you prefer the self-indulgent style that is Radiohead's these days.
Good luck to you - happy listening. Well, probably not happy, but you know what I mean.
Gooders
01-07-2001, 07:48 PM
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Originally posted by Neil MacQueen
Ive asked for Muse for my bday next week. They are class.
You will not be disappointed: it's a brilliant album, full of incredible vocals.
Eddie McGoldrick's tash
01-07-2001, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by Neil MacQueen
Ive asked for Muse for my bday next week. They are class.
Sounds like a great idea for a present, but where are you going to put them???
I also would expect it would be quite expensive to buy the whole band and didn't know they were for sale!!! (Matt's mum abd Dad would be gutted.)
WorthingEagle
02-07-2001, 02:37 AM
the point isn't about having a complex time signature, most of the greatest songs are 4/4 but a lot of people wouldn't understand anything in a different time. The point is quality, interesting and original music that I haven't heard a million times before, and lets face it if at 19 I've heard it before then you must have to a greater extent.
To be honest your taste in music is by no means the worst in the world, Muse's first album was admittedly excellent but I feel they've gone backwards with the new one, although I'll give it a closer listen at work tomorrow. I was Muse's biggest fan even before their first album came out having bought an early EP after reading an article about them, but Matt Bellamy has turned into a complete tw@t and they're not doing anything new anymore.
Don't worry mate its not personal i frequently have this argument with my fiance who is always listening to pop and "R&B" rubbish.
You say its about sending a message, well the message I get from these people is lets make as much money as possible from all the teeny-boppers and clubbers and then retire at 25 and live in a big mansion.
It is tempting for me to start writing hear'say/atomic kitten-esque songs and send them to producers and see what happens, but then I would be the same as the *******s who swan about in £250,000 studios making crap lift music to order for girl bands, and I wouldn't be able to complain about it ;)
How I laughed when Steely Dan's "Two against Nature" beat Eminem to best album in the USA grammy's, striking a blow for quality music against pop. I recommend buying that album to see just how well a song can be constructed, they are head and shoulders above all other songwriters.
Gooders
02-07-2001, 07:19 AM
Well, initially I too thought that Muse's new album wasn't as good as the first but now I think it's better, though harder to get into (I realise I'm arguing aginst myself here!)
My abhorrence of all things to do with "time signatures" stems from spending 3 months sharing an apartment in Milan with a colleague who only liked what he called "ugly" jazz which, believe me, was seriously appalling.
He is now married and his new wife has set aside a room in their house where he can go on his own, to listen to the terrible racket he calls music.
Good for you for taking what you do seriously and not just coming up with formula pap in an attempt to coin it.
For myself, I am a sucker for a good tune and a decent vocalist is the most important member of any band, as far as I'm concerned.
It's why I like Mansun, Muse, Cast and Ocean Colour Scene these days, and why I used to like the Smiths, Queen, Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath in the past.
It's also why I used to like Radiohead.
Anyway, good luck to you.
Gooders
16-07-2001, 12:22 AM
Well, a couple of weeks on, and as far as I am concerned the Muse album is the best thing I have heard for many, many years.
The lead singer may well be a knob (I've never heard him interviewed and I don't even know what he looks like) but he has the most amazing voice.
Do yourselves a favour and add Origin of Symmetry to your collections now!
Baloo
16-07-2001, 06:06 PM
Latest tip, and following on from some posters' inclinations towards "difficult" music, the Beta Band's new album is out today and on first listen it is ace. When the tracks become more familiar, this could turn out to be a classic.
And BTW, I like Amnesiac AND Muse. How uncool is that?
Jimmy Jumble
17-07-2001, 05:54 PM
Nah, prefer Feeder
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