View Full Version : Unfair Ticketing Arrangements for Liverpool Game
Tom B
21-12-2000, 08:24 PM
It is correct that season ticket holders and members get priority for tickets for the Liverpool game, but it is totally unfair that they are being allowed to buy as many as four tickets each. If each of the 6-7000 of them take up this allocation (and many are doing so) this will leave no tickets left for others – including many loyal supporters.
The result will be that friends and families of season ticket holders / members who do not regularly attend matches but are attracted by the lure of watching a game against a big club (i.e. the ‘fair weather’ fans that Simon Jordan recently, and in my view correctly, criticised for failing to attend run-of-the mill league matches) will receive tickets. Loyal fans such as myself, who are not season ticket holders or members but do attend many matches, will lose out. It is likely that many of those who will receive tickets as a priority will not even be Palace fans - just wait for all the London-based Liverpool fans jumping up in the home end.
I am neither a season ticket holder nor a member – I am unable to get to every home game. However, I am a loyal supporter who attends at least ten home games (and several away games) every season and have done so for each of the last 10 years. I find it extremely galling that those, who unlike me, were not present on Tuesday night at the Sunderland game (let alone Watford or Grimsby at home or Fulham and Norwich away) will get tickets, and I in all likelihood will not.
Surely, a better system of prioritisation for tickets could have been achieved? Why not offer some sort of priority to those able to present a ticket stub from the Sunderland game? Why not set a more sensible limit of two tickets for season ticket holders and members?
Unfair? If you cant be bothered to get a membership card for a few quid.......
Needs to be some priority on who gets tickets. No?
JohnA
21-12-2000, 08:29 PM
I agree. I have been a season ticket holder for 7 or so seasons - what really annoyed me was the same principal being used for play off 97 - I queued for 4 hours - the section I wanted was sold out when I got to the box.
Season ticket holders / members were buying a load of tickets for fair weather fans.
bucketbongeagle
21-12-2000, 08:31 PM
Completely agree and will be very p!ssed off if I can't get a ticket, I probably attend about 75% of home matches, but don't have a season ticket as I sometimes work weekends.
Cleon
21-12-2000, 08:36 PM
Sorry, of course Season Ticket holders should have priority. The 9,000 odd season ticket holders at this club kept the club afloat during the administration period, and ensured that the players got the support they needed to allow CPFC to still exist.
If you can't even be bothered to join as a member or Golden Eagle then that's tough. Maybe if you could produce your Loan Certificate or a ticket stub from the away game at Cambridge last year, then you've got a point, but I doubt you can.
Alternatively, find a friend who is also season ticket holder.
skyrocket6
21-12-2000, 08:37 PM
my mate has been trying all day to get through to the ticket office but cant. we only want 2 (we are both season ticket holders)!!
It does look as though it might be a sell out.
Gaffer
21-12-2000, 08:39 PM
I think the point that's being made is that season ticket holders and members are being allowed to buy four tickets.
I'm not saying that's right or wrong, but it does seem to me to be grounds for complaint if 15-game-a-season fans start missing out.
However, Cleon is of course right about loyal supporters and at the end of the day a membership card is standard for many fans.
Oisin
21-12-2000, 08:41 PM
They can't sell your tickets yet.
If you can't be bothered to get a membership card I have no sympathy.
wombat
21-12-2000, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by Oisin:
They can't sell your tickets yet.
If you can't be bothered to get a membership card I have no sympathy.
How do these people buy their tickets normally? Or do they? Or do we suddenly have shedloads of people wanting tickets ?mmmm?
Being allowed to buy four tickets seems fair to me, at least for season ticket holders. A fair reward me thinks for those that've stumped up their cash to the club and are being rewarded by being able to bring some friends or family along to a big game.
skyrocket6
21-12-2000, 08:47 PM
we all know that some people out there will be selling theres to "scousers" whos dads, brothers, wifes, budgies previous owner who once drove through liverpool.
Which I think is discusting Palace end for Palace fans not people who turn up for the big occasion because they know who Micheal Owen is. or their girlfriend fancies Jamie Redknap.
Tom B
21-12-2000, 08:48 PM
Paf and Cleon miss the point.
Nobody is questioning that Season Ticket Holders and Members should get priority. This issue is why should their mates and families (who have not necessarruly demonstrated any past committment to the club) jump the queue?
It is not just Season Ticket holders who have kept the club afloat over the past two matches - it is also those who have attended many matches and paid on the day.
The likes of Paf and Cleon should consider these points before adopting such a hollier than thou attitude.
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RUSSELL
21-12-2000, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by Cleon:
Maybe if you could produce your Loan Certificate or a ticket stub from the away game at Cambridge last year.
Don't even go there!!!!!!
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Originally posted by Tom B:
The likes of Paf and Cleon should consider these points before adopting such a hollier than thou attitude.
Fair enough, my 3 month old son has a membership and wont be attending the game, would you like his membership number so you can buy a ticket? Failing that I have 8 tickets in the Holmesdale and one will be spare if you'd like it.
fieldy
21-12-2000, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by skyrocket6:
my mate has been trying all day to get through to the ticket office but cant. we only want 2 (we are both season ticket holders)!!
It does look as though it might be a sell out.
No need to panic, your seats are held until Jan 2nd, save yourself the £2 booking fee and go and get them from the box office next time you're at the ground
wombat
21-12-2000, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by Tom B:
Paf and Cleon miss the point.
Nobody is questioning that Season Ticket Holders and Members should get priority. This issue is why should their mates and families (who have not necessarruly demonstrated any past committment to the club) jump the queue?
It is not just Season Ticket holders who have kept the club afloat over the past two matches - it is also those who have attended many matches and paid on the day.
The likes of Paf and Cleon should consider these points before adopting such a hollier than thou attitude.
So your point is that any muppet that hasn't been to palace for ages should be ensured a ticket? Crap. Why shouldn't Paf get 4 tickets, why shouldn't I???? When Liverpool have been and gone, we'll still be going to matches - Will you be at Grimsby? I doubt it?
Gazza1
21-12-2000, 08:54 PM
I think that season ticket holders & members should be allowed just 2 tickets each = plenty left for other genuine supporters.
I just hope that some (even a tiny %) of the glory hunting supporters become regulars.
I doubt it though.
skyrocket6
21-12-2000, 08:54 PM
Originally posted by fieldy:
No need to panic, your seats are held until Jan 2nd, save yourself the £2 booking fee and go and get them from the box office next time you're at the ground
I already now this its the only reason im still sane?!
fieldy
21-12-2000, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by Tom B:
It is correct that season ticket holders and members get priority for tickets for the Liverpool game, but it is totally unfair that they are being allowed to buy as many as four tickets each. If each of the 6-7000 of them take up this allocation (and many are doing so) this will leave no tickets left for others – including many loyal supporters.
The result will be that friends and families of season ticket holders / members who do not regularly attend matches but are attracted by the lure of watching a game against a big club (i.e. the ‘fair weather’ fans that Simon Jordan recently, and in my view correctly, criticised for failing to attend run-of-the mill league matches) will receive tickets. Loyal fans such as myself, who are not season ticket holders or members but do attend many matches, will lose out. It is likely that many of those who will receive tickets as a priority will not even be Palace fans - just wait for all the London-based Liverpool fans jumping up in the home end.
I am neither a season ticket holder nor a member – I am unable to get to every home game. However, I am a loyal supporter who attends at least ten home games (and several away games) every season and have done so for each of the last 10 years. I find it extremely galling that those, who unlike me, were not present on Tuesday night at the Sunderland game (let alone Watford or Grimsby at home or Fulham and Norwich away) will get tickets, and I in all likelihood will not.
Surely, a better system of prioritisation for tickets could have been achieved? Why not offer some sort of priority to those able to present a ticket stub from the Sunderland game? Why not set a more sensible limit of two tickets for season ticket holders and members?
If you are such a loyal supporter why are you not at least a member which costs about £20 a season and doesn't stop any of your other activities in life, sorry pal but I've got Zero sympathy, if you can't get a ticket then watch the highlights on Carlton !!!
skyrocket6
21-12-2000, 08:57 PM
the true support will be going to Liverpool(those who can, bearing in mind midweek & ditance)I'll see you there.
lightweight
21-12-2000, 08:57 PM
season ticket holders SHOULD be give priority - after all - they paid the money that helped to keep the club afloat - they go to the matches week in week out.
If you can't afford a season ticket / can't go to many games - and can't be bothered to get membership (which is what it must boil down to) then I'm sorry - but isn't that your own fault if you miss out when a big game comes round??
You know the situation in advance - and 20 quid membership or whatever it is is nothing - discounts in the shop & on tickets etc mean you get your money back anyway. Even the 2 quid a week for golden eagles can be recovered through the voucher system.
As for the 4 per person - I am quite surprised by this - 2 per person maybe -then this would allow a little flexibility.
I hope they've sort of some sort of system for the away leg - whist 9,000 people are unlikely to want to go - just saying season ticket holders doesn't take into consideration those of us that supported the team in the earlier rounds of the cup - and I'm not just talking about the away games either.
Ian of Chatham
21-12-2000, 09:02 PM
Originally posted by wombat:
So your point is that any muppet that hasn't been to palace for ages should be ensured a ticket? Crap. Why shouldn't Paf get 4 tickets, why shouldn't I???? When Liverpool have been and gone, we'll still be going to matches - Will you be at Grimsby? I doubt it?
Well I won't be at Grimsby, we've played them twice already this season.
bucketbongeagle
21-12-2000, 09:03 PM
Yeah but what Im really objecting to is the fact that you can buy 4 tickets, thats 3 tickets for none members or season ticket holders presumably, which as already stated is ideal for your mate the Liverpool supporter from Croydon or that half hearted bloke that goes once every five years when a game like this comes up.
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wombat
21-12-2000, 09:05 PM
Originally posted by Ian of Chatham:
Originally posted by wombat:
So your point is that any muppet that hasn't been to palace for ages should be ensured a ticket? Crap. Why shouldn't Paf get 4 tickets, why shouldn't I???? When Liverpool have been and gone, we'll still be going to matches - Will you be at Grimsby? I doubt it?
Well I won't be at Grimsby, we've played them twice already this season.
Don't be so anal. I just meant a crap fixture and that.
Sandy of Cornwall
21-12-2000, 09:10 PM
I applied to be a member back in August, received an acknowledgement from the club who said they would be in touch shortly and, guess what? - they haven't.
Why should it be so difficult for me to get a ticket? Whether you like it or not, I am a loyal supporter. Just because I didn't go to Grimsby away, means not a jot.
Eagle of the East
21-12-2000, 09:12 PM
FOR GODS SAKE, MEMBERSHIP IS 20 QUID!!!
There is no excuse for any Palace fan who attends regularly not to be a member - you even save 2 quid off each home game
STOP YER WHINGING AND JOIN NOW! and next time you wont miss out.
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Theres Only One Dougie Freedman!
Looks like this has turned into another one of those crappy 'loyal supporters' threads...
Reminds me of a point that someone made a while ago about how we were all united during the dark days of admin, but now the good times seem to be coming back, we're divided again.
Why should anyone get immediate entitlement to four tickets? Just because you happen to be fortunate enough to afford a season ticket?
There's about 16,000 at every home game, so that's at least 7,000 who don't have season tickets but go on a regular basis and may well miss out. Doesn't sound very fair to me...
yes Sandy, but the club are pretty fair, if you ring, explain you applied back in August, have an acknowledgement letter etc, I'm 100% they will sell you the tickets.
Justin
21-12-2000, 09:13 PM
What i don't understand is the maths. If we have 9000 season ticket holders and there are say 24,000 tickets for Palace fans then what happens if every season ticket holder - or member- buys 4 tickets. Surely some season ticket holders won't be able to buy tickets?
Sandy of Cornwall
21-12-2000, 09:19 PM
Thanks Paf but another BBS'er is helping me out.
Typical Palace though. They could have had £60 from my family in membership if they sorted themselves out a bit.
eagleDAN
21-12-2000, 09:23 PM
Gotta agree with the original poster.
Why should I get FOUR tickets just because I have a season ticket?
Why don't the box office sell 1 ticket each to PERSONAL CALLERS ONLY. That way the majority of tickets in the Palace areas will go to Palace fans. I believe that more tickets will end up going to (sometime)Liverpool fans who are friends of season ticket holders than would if we were allowed one ticket each.
We all slag of supporters who only turn up for the big games but some of us are justifying them today simply because they are friends/family. Tough $hite - let them queue.
fieldy
21-12-2000, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by Sandy of Cornwall:
Thanks Paf but another BBS'er is helping me out.
Typical Palace though. They could have had £60 from my family in membership if they sorted themselves out a bit.
I wouldn't worry too much, still no news on the half year season tickets and the first game for them is tommorow night !!!
Eagle of the East
21-12-2000, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by Sandy of Cornwall:
I applied to be a member back in August, received an acknowledgement from the club who said they would be in touch shortly and, guess what? - they haven't.
Why should it be so difficult for me to get a ticket? Whether you like it or not, I am a loyal supporter. Just because I didn't go to Grimsby away, means not a jot.
Sandy, If you still havent heard anything since August dont you think its time you gave the club a call!
Or dont they have telephones in Cornwall?
Strewth, if I just let everything go when people didnt get back to me I'd
Have no job
Be paying 2 different companies for the same electricity
still be waiting for my computer to be fixed.
Come on girl use some iniative!
eagle mart
21-12-2000, 09:48 PM
Is it 4 tickets Max? I'm wanting 11 tomorrow morning. All for Palace fans. I'm a seson ticket holder the last thing im gonna do is give them to Mickey Mousers.
The Real Slim Shady
21-12-2000, 09:58 PM
The guys right, I don't see why s/t holders should get 4 tickets each, it should be one per person. To me s/t mean nothing because surely if someone goes all the home games then he/she is just a dedicated as a s/t. Surely ticket stubs from earlier rounds would enable a person to get a ticket.
For the away leg they have to give 10% so there should be no problems there, expect us to take just over 1000 fans and expect the Sunderland away attendance to drop now we have a better day out for the fairweathers.
This is crap. I've been to every game so far this season (including cup games) but didn't 300 quid to shell out on a season ticket. Now there are no seats left in the holmesdale at all... i wonder if any of these "guests" will be at the huddersfield game???
bunch of fecking @rseholes.
RichieG
22-12-2000, 12:08 AM
[b]£20 is all it costs to be member![/b}
Assuming that you buy a shirt and attend 9 games out of 47 you make a profit!
No Sympathy!
anti-addick
22-12-2000, 12:51 AM
3 points.
1) £20 membership, 10 x £2 discount on tickets and you've broken even.
2) I would imagine that most season ticket holders will not be wanting to fill their own stand with glory seekers. I will refuse to get a ticket for anybody other than Palace.
3) If you allowed only 1 ticket per ST holder then tickets went on general sale we would be DEFINATELY swamped with glory seekers that get on the phone before other Palace fans, then you'd be really gutted. It's better to sell as many tickets as possible through Palace's most regular supporters.
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Skid Row
22-12-2000, 01:11 AM
After reading the first few comments on this thread about people who arent season ticket holders because they can only get to a few games is a pathetic excuse. I've bought a membership (season ticket) for my AFL club even when I know I'll only be able to attend 3 games a year.
I dont buy them to attend the games, I buy them to SUPPORT the club I love, the club that I have followed all my life. That's how clubs go out of business because people think, "Oh, I can only get to see half the games this year so I wont buy a season ticket".
Piss poor excuse if you ask me, then again it's not even an excuse. The club needs your money to survive, if everyone thought like that then there'd be no Crystal Palace and you'd have to live with that for the rest of yuor life, think if only I'd bought a season ticket.
But, as for season ticket holders buying heaps of tickets well that's a bit rough, out here we have a maximum of 2 tickets every membership I think.
Brett
22-12-2000, 01:11 AM
Without wishing to go down a road dug up by many people bar myself....
Surely people able to present a ticket stub from earlier rounds, preferably aways at Cardiff (I actually didnt go - fair weather fan), and Burnley, should get priority, then season tickets, then members and finally if there are any left, general sale.
Sandy, I sypathise but you really should have kept onto them about the membership; its the only way to get the pathetic service at Palace working for YOU. Moan until it gets sorted.
Also, I'd also be a bit peeved if I couldnt get a ticket for the away leg, seeing as I been to Burnley away etc. Doesnt make me a more loyal supporter but there ARE some fans who have the time AND the means to get to these games but wish instead to only turn up for the glamour ties.
So please dont hijack it (people with guilty consciences, or people who just wanna dig me out), you KNOW that people who have been to the nitty gritty should get priority.
After that I dont care, you can settle it by mud wrestling.
Oisin
22-12-2000, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by Raf:
Looks like this has turned into another one of those crappy 'loyal supporters' threads...
Reminds me of a point that someone made a while ago about how we were all united during the dark days of admin, but now the good times seem to be coming back, we're divided again.
Why should anyone get immediate entitlement to four tickets? Just because you happen to be fortunate enough to afford a season ticket?
There's about 16,000 at every home game, so that's at least 7,000 who don't have season tickets but go on a regular basis and may well miss out. Doesn't sound very fair to me...
If you can't afford membership I feel sorry for you. This isn't about loyalty. People who but season tickets are entitled to certain perks including who they invite to the occasional big game.
Oisin
22-12-2000, 01:58 PM
For those who don’t have enough to pay for a season ticket I recommend the loan deal thing. You pay monthly and still make a substantial saving on the price of tickets.
Some of you are being very harsh on your fellow supporters. I can guarantee some genuine fans will miss out on this game and some scousers will be in the Palace end. That cannot be right. It is all very well saying you should have got a membership/season ticket etc but the fact is they did't and I will be gutted for them.
Tomahawks
22-12-2000, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by Oisin:
If you can't afford membership I feel sorry for you. This isn't about loyalty. People who but season tickets are entitled to certain perks including who they invite to the occasional big game.
Totally agree. As long as they're not scousers!
RDSdaEAGLE
22-12-2000, 02:36 PM
The Box Office can't sell your seat to anybody else, unless the person gives permission, or the ticket are on general sale.
BTW: If you go to 75% of the games, that could cost you about £250 (as a student), yet if you get a season ticket, it'll only cost you £98, and you can afford to miss matches if you need to. On average, the price for a ticket with a season ticket is £4, whereas the full price is £9.
Cleon
22-12-2000, 02:41 PM
This ain't about money... Any beggar in the street can afford £20 a year membership, so don't come on with your 'I deserve more rights than you because I can't afford membership'.
Also, my season ticket in the lower Holmesdale only cost £196 per year (that's less than £4 a week). And if you are a concession, you can get a similar seat for less than £100.
If you are really that concerned, go down to the ground at 9am on January 2nd because there are bound to be some season ticket holders that can't make the game and their seats will then be sold. The Holmesdale is where everybody wants to watch the game from, but I'm sure you could get seats in the Arthur Waite if necessary.
This is not about "loyal supporters" - all season ticket holders would love to see the days again when Selhurst was sold out week in week out with Palace supporters. I welcome anybody that comes along to support Palace, but obviously season ticket holders should have priority.
I had 10 tickets arrive this morning, I only asked for 8, christmas spirit in overdrive at Selhurst !!!
Pistike
22-12-2000, 02:51 PM
As a typical fair weather supporter can I just say how happy it makes me that James Varcoe not only owns a season ticket but has already promised to get me 4 tickets for the 10th January.
I'm a little bit worried that he will forget to do so and leave me dissapointed but that is another story. JAMES!!!
Oh and here are some of the recent "top draw" matches attended by this fair weather non-season ticket owning supporter:
Tranmere away
Port Vale home
QPR away
Oxford away
Sweeping generalisations R US
[This message has been edited by Pistike (edited 22 December 2000).]
SKATE
22-12-2000, 02:54 PM
It's never too late to join as a member. Join now and apply for tickets. Sorted.
100% Palace
22-12-2000, 02:55 PM
We all bought season tickets before Jordan took over, so stop f**king whinging if you cant get a ticket, membership dont cost that much.
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Latvian Eagle
22-12-2000, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by Tom B:
It is correct that season ticket holders and members get priority for tickets for the Liverpool game, but it is totally unfair that they are being allowed to buy as many as four tickets each. If each of the 6-7000 of them take up this allocation (and many are doing so) this will leave no tickets left for others – including many loyal supporters.
The result will be that friends and families of season ticket holders / members who do not regularly attend matches but are attracted by the lure of watching a game against a big club (i.e. the ‘fair weather’ fans that Simon Jordan recently, and in my view correctly, criticised for failing to attend run-of-the mill league matches) will receive tickets. Loyal fans such as myself, who are not season ticket holders or members but do attend many matches, will lose out. It is likely that many of those who will receive tickets as a priority will not even be Palace fans - just wait for all the London-based Liverpool fans jumping up in the home end.
I am neither a season ticket holder nor a member – I am unable to get to every home game. However, I am a loyal supporter who attends at least ten home games (and several away games) every season and have done so for each of the last 10 years. I find it extremely galling that those, who unlike me, were not present on Tuesday night at the Sunderland game (let alone Watford or Grimsby at home or Fulham and Norwich away) will get tickets, and I in all likelihood will not.
Surely, a better system of prioritisation for tickets could have been achieved? Why not offer some sort of priority to those able to present a ticket stub from the Sunderland game? Why not set a more sensible limit of two tickets for season ticket holders and members?
SO Tom am i right in saying that you are a fair weather supporter?! and that it serves tyou right for not being a season ticket holder!? oh well then! Good Day to You Sir!
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Gooders
23-12-2000, 02:42 AM
Myself and my boys went to the ground at 5.45 today with the express intent of buying our own seats in the Upper Tier, only to be told that no tickets would be on sale for Liverpool until after tonights game.
This is ridiculous petty-mindedness. I cannot stand outside until midnight freezing my lads nads off prior to my 60 mile drive home - it's not fair on them.
I asked the guy who was conveying the news why this stupid decision had been made and he said that it was because only 4 tickets had been sold for tonights game. What the bloody hell did that have to do with anything?
We all gave in forms and the club have undertaken to ring us this weekend so that we can order our tickets over the phone.
Who thinks this will happen?
No, me neither.
Brett
23-12-2000, 02:48 AM
I sympathise with you Gooders. Since I was a very small boy myself, the box office at the Palace has been a disgrace to the word 'service'.
Dont expect the call either. You best ring them.
And to think that the idiot who has overseen the worst customer service facing at Selhurst Park ever (Dominic Risebro) has been promoted to sales manager!!!
For all the hoo ha's from Mousey Tongue, Crystal Palace Football Club is still a pathetic waste of space when it comes to treatment of its OWN fans.
I will be starting a new thread tomorrow as regards to the continuing decline in standards in the Box Office, club shop and Holmesdale / Glaziers catering (or lack of it).
Bob S
23-12-2000, 04:25 AM
1. Of course season ticket holders should get priority.
2. If you can't be bothered becoming a member, tough ****
3. Don't know what the panic is anyway. I have just bought the tickets for my two seats and I'm sure many others will be doing the same. There'll be plenty left for sale come 5 January. If you are that worried, start queuing early.
4. Bet you'll get a membership next season http://www.cpfc.org/ubb/wink.gif
PeterH
23-12-2000, 04:53 AM
If people are buying tickets for their fair weather friends, I think they should definately ask them when they are going to come again. If they show no interest until the next very big game come up then I for one wouldn't make the effort to buy them tickets.
As per SJ, for the good of our club we need these paying customers once in a while at home games like Tranmere and Crewe (and Watford and Wimbledon).
I worked in the box office about 8 years ago. It's still run by the same clan: Mary Lewis + kid (Neil?), brother Robbie Tobin and various other idiots who come and go. None of whom had any previous experience and are relics of the Noades era. When I was queueing for Sunderland tickets the other week several people just went up to the back door and Ms. Lewis popped out and supplied them with tickets. Very unfair to those of us who were waiting.
The point is, these people are useless. As memory serves (and this is a personal opinion) Mary Lewis is one of the most devious, abnoxious, unpleasant persons I have ever met. Is it any surprise that the Box Office seems to reflect that as a whole?
Lin - Woolpacker
23-12-2000, 09:36 PM
I was there today at 1.00pm getting my season ticket seats for the game and also a couple of guest tickets.
There are no seats at all in the Holmesdale. The only ones left are in blocks A,B C, H & J in the main stand and some in the Arthur Waite.
Lokks like this is going to sell out very quickly.
Dorking .Eagle
27-12-2000, 12:33 PM
I would like to agree with Gooders - I got to the box office at 6pm on Friday, plenty of time before the Blackburn game and was told no Liverpool tickets would be on sale until after the game - ridiculous!!! so I had nearly 2 hours to waste.
As you can expect, I then queued until 11pm on Friday night to get mine, and the que looked long enough to last till midnight.
I also agree fully with the Ms. Lewis and useless sons/cousins/brothers comments - the staff are effing useless and so slow and unhelpful.
Maxwell Eagle
27-12-2000, 01:33 PM
Firstly I do agree with the fact that four tickets per season ticket seems a bit "unfair", but I think I understand the reasoning behind it. I would imagine that Jordan is as annoyed seeing the stands half filled with "cockney" reds for these sort of games as the rest of us, so by selling these tickets through a season ticket holder he hopes that we will not sell these tickets to anyone other than Palace - fairweather or not.
Secondly, as many others have said, tough luck if you miss out, if you go to any more than 10 home games without getting a season tickets or membership then you begin losing out on a financial basis as well as wasting your own time queuing or phoning for tickets on a game by game basis.
There are no certainties in life, but you hope that Palace will probably be around next season, you hope that you will probably be around next season so start saving now for next seasons season ticket.
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Neil the Eagle
27-12-2000, 01:43 PM
I'm off for a lie down, I actually agree with jose (aka slim) ...
[Would have used pm's for the next message but they aren't working]
BTW Maxie, sorry for completing ignoring you the other day. No real excuse, I had the bitch-hangover from hell and was trying not to get pissed off with the stupid woman in front of me trying to force foreign coins into the ticket machine ... I sort of forgot you were there after that!
Have a great new year mate!
Maxwell Eagle
27-12-2000, 02:53 PM
No worries Neil, could see you were somewhat distracted !
Apart from six points hope you got everything you wanted for Xmas and wish you and yours a sooper New Year.
Gooders
27-12-2000, 09:46 PM
In the interests of fair play, I feel I should say that the club have indeed just phoned me and that I have now secured my three season-ticket seats for the Liverpool game. It wasn't the week-end as they promised but at least they got there in the end.
My eldest son asked me if I would get a couple of seats for Liverpool fans from his school. I told him to tell them to "**** off!"
Let's keep the red scum out of our seats for this one.
CPFC Cheerleader Observer
27-12-2000, 10:25 PM
Well said that man.
http://www.cpfc.org/ubb/smile.gif
I work weekends as well, but I still have a season ticket. I miss maybe three home games a season. I won't be at the Huddersfield game due to work. I also missed Sunderland for the same reason, but as a season ticket holder, I've given my commitment to the club and deserve my ticket for the semi. I agree that fair weathers shouldn't jump on the band wagon. But, if you can't be bothered to fork out for a membership card, then how committed a fan are you. I'd also rether see Palace fans of any kind, fair weather of not, in a seat instead of London Liverpool fan.
selhurst
28-12-2000, 12:22 AM
http://www.zyworld.com/fulham04/ticket1.jpg
blinddatemark
28-12-2000, 03:25 AM
Does anyone know how many tickets will be available for theaway leg and when they go on sale. I was lucky enough to alledgedly get the last available ticket for the holmesdale on the 23rd http://www.cpfc.org/ubb/smile.gif
Dorking .Eagle
28-12-2000, 02:16 PM
Liverpool away tickets not on sale until the new year according to the (unreliable) box office woman.
Should be well busy at the turn of the year, as not only will they be selling 2 Liverpool matches and Sunderland FA Cup, but they are to start selling next years season tickets from Jan 1st!!!!!!!
Box Office queues ahoy!
Gladys Allover
28-12-2000, 05:00 PM
Originally posted by anti-addick:
2) I would imagine that most season ticket holders will not be wanting to fill their own stand with glory seekers. I will refuse to get a ticket for anybody other than Palace.
Totally agree. I would prefer to have slightly 'less loyal' Palace fans sitting with me because I have brought them along as my extra two than Liverpool fans going berserk around me. That is what could happen if they are all distributed on the open market.
I understand that not everyone can afford a season ticket in one lump sum, but there are no good excuses not to have become a member.
blinddatemark
29-12-2000, 04:00 AM
ticket arrived today thank god i was beginning to think i had dreamed about buying the ticket!!
lightweight
29-12-2000, 04:17 AM
my liverpool tickets arrived in the post this morning!! (although quite amusing as my Dad booked them - and they sent them to my address instead!) just happy now they are in my possession though!
Oisin
29-12-2000, 04:33 AM
I got six season ticket holders seats and eight for our guests this morning. Nothing left in the Holmesdale or the White Horse apart from reserved season ticket seats. Most of these have already gone as well.
No news at all from Liverpool on the away leg.
Bungalow
29-12-2000, 06:53 PM
Totally agree with Gladys Allover.
I often console myself that my Golden Eagles membership at least entitles me to priority for the big games and £2 off tickets for other games.
Especially as I've won jack s**t for ages.
Also, all tickets have the member's name on them so it would be quite easy to trace who bought tickets for any scousers causing trouble in the home areas.
Celestial Empire
31-12-2000, 04:10 AM
Good topic Brett !
But previously you have seemed like pretty close to the staff, and generally, most people seem to see the staff as a bit 'put upon'(night of the long knives and all that).
Are the staff good loyal servants who have been bullied by SJ, or a bunch of inefficient nepotistas left over from the Noades / Goldilocks days ??
We need to know !!
billy_gilberts_hammer
01-01-2001, 07:48 PM
Having read this topic from start to finish I have decided after 32 years of watching Palace on a fairly regular basis up until 1995, then due to work assignments abroad, only sporadically since 1995, not to attend Selhurst again. It is clear from the numerous posts that my sort of support is no longer welcome at Selhurst. The club has been supported by my family right back to the 1930's but alas unless you have season tickets, club membership etc ( I have none) then you are not considered a true/loyal supporter.
Some of the people posting should understand that there a lot of 'supporters' who have more important things to do on match days, be it familiy, work, other pursuits and will only attend games that tie in with their schedules or appeal to them. Don't knock these supporters they contribute to the club over an extended period.
I did not any stage consider going to the Liverpool game as I know that the Arthur will be full of these London based Liverpool supporters, in Palace seats, the temptation to verbally/physically abuse them is too great. Best to stay at home. But I have been taken back by the content of this thread and the abuse given to fellow Palace supporters by Palace supporters. That unfortunately has rubber stamped my decision, and for the future, *****il proven otherwise) has left me worried that the current active Palace supporters are becoming increasingly greedy and narrow minded like those supporters of other London premiership clubs.
This used to be a great club to be part of...not any more.
1f43
The Real Slim Shady
01-01-2001, 09:40 PM
Originally posted by billy_gilberts_hammer:
Having read this topic from start to finish I have decided after 32 years of watching Palace on a fairly regular basis up until 1995, then due to work assignments abroad, only sporadically since 1995, not to attend Selhurst again. It is clear from the numerous posts that my sort of support is no longer welcome at Selhurst. The club has been supported by my family right back to the 1930's but alas unless you have season tickets, club membership etc ( I have none) then you are not considered a true/loyal supporter.
Some of the people posting should understand that there a lot of 'supporters' who have more important things to do on match days, be it familiy, work, other pursuits and will only attend games that tie in with their schedules or appeal to them. Don't knock these supporters they contribute to the club over an extended period.
I did not any stage consider going to the Liverpool game as I know that the Arthur will be full of these London based Liverpool supporters, in Palace seats, the temptation to verbally/physically abuse them is too great. Best to stay at home. But I have been taken back by the content of this thread and the abuse given to fellow Palace supporters by Palace supporters. That unfortunately has rubber stamped my decision, and for the future, *****il proven otherwise) has left me worried that the current active Palace supporters are becoming increasingly greedy and narrow minded like those supporters of other London premiership clubs.
This used to be a great club to be part of...not any more.
has anyone seen my violin?
anti-addick
01-01-2001, 10:00 PM
Sounds more like you have a huge chip on your shoulder about something or other and wouldn't be going anyway. Are you telling us that you get 'dissed' by other Palace fans you meet? I'd doubt it. But if this is your attitude then we'd rather you stayed at home because you sound like the type to not ever cheer the boys on but gripe and moan instead.
Definately one of the worst opening postings i've ever had the misfortunte to read.
Sugar Loaf
01-01-2001, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by billy_gilberts_hammer:
Some of the people posting should understand that there a lot of 'supporters' who have more important things to do on match days, be it familiy, work, other pursuits and will only attend games that tie in with their schedules or appeal to them.
Yes, fair comment. But these people aren't what I call 'supporters'. Last season every match we went to could have been our last. That's why we made the effort to attend. I think this is what makes us different to you.
I know many people who can only get to a few matches, but at least they make the effort to attend as many as they can! It appears that you're more interested in 'other pursuits'.
Les Butler
01-01-2001, 11:01 PM
Originally posted by The Real Slim Shady:
has anyone seen my violin?
I guess you made his point Jose/Slim
Sorry guys in my book a Palace fan is a Palace fans,lucky the BBS does not run CPFC or we would have stars to show what level of supporter we all are.
[This message has been edited by Les Butler (edited 01 January 2001).]
Son of Selhurst
01-01-2001, 11:25 PM
Nice one, Les.
SoS
Brett
01-01-2001, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by Les Butler:
Sorry guys in my book a Palace fan is a Palace fans,lucky the BBS does not run CPFC or we would have stars to show what level of supporter we all are.
But Les. Many members of foreign football teams (Real Madrid and Barcelona the main examples) very rarely go to the matches.
They are members because they are proud to be associated with their team. They are members because they wish to retain rights over tickets if and when they decide to go (there call, after all football is not life and death). They are also members because of the benefits at the club.
Membership doesnt interfere with your gardening/shopping/drinking or whatever else you want to do on a Saturday.
Its a piece of plastic that costs £20 (too much I reckon) which shows the rest of the world that even if you arent always in attendance, you certainly support your team to the hilt.
It also means you can get into marquee cup matches, but thats just a perk. http://www.cpfc.org/ubb/smile.gif
Les Butler
01-01-2001, 11:50 PM
Why do you need a plastic card with an Eagle on it to show you are a Palace fan?(Slim does not a shirt to show he is a Palace fan)
In this free life of ours you have a right to chose,To me if I lived there I would get one but as I said you have a choice.
If you wanna go to one palace game a season and your a Palace fan cool !
If you wanna go to all the palace games ,lucky b@stard and real cool !
If I meet some one in the street and he has a palace scarf on I will also ask for his plastic I d card just to make sure he is a real Palace fan.
You can never be to sure can you ?
Brett
02-01-2001, 01:11 AM
Les, read my post again and tell me where I said you had to be a member to be a real fan.
I cant find it.
Les Butler
02-01-2001, 01:50 AM
So.....Whats your point then Brett ?
I think its you who should read your post again.
[This message has been edited by Les Butler (edited 01 January 2001).]
Brett
02-01-2001, 02:01 AM
My point is still this. Membership is cheap. It shows your true colours without doubt.
If you cant be bothered to get membership then dont whinge when you cant get a ticket for Liverpool.
Yes, its that simple.
Les Butler
02-01-2001, 03:03 AM
http://www.cpfc.org/ubb/smile.gif
SmithEagle
02-01-2001, 03:21 AM
Well im going to write a letter to Jordan asking why he changed the ticket policy because it was a cup game!
8 weeks for members, 4 weeks for non-members! So when i went to get my tickets about 2 days after we beat Sunderland, i was turned away because they havent got my membership details for this season (but have for last season??) But they still send me letters, and brochures and stuff like i am a member!
1a72
Les Butler
02-01-2001, 07:42 AM
Originally posted by Brett:
It shows your true colours without doubt.
They are members because they are proud to be associated with their team.
Its a piece of plastic that costs £20 (too much I reckon) which shows the rest of the world that even if you arent always in attendance, you certainly support your team to the hilt.
It shows your true colours without doubt.
Yes, its that simple.
Shows your true colors ?????
Yep I admit it I am really a Utd fan posing as a Palace fan,what can I say, with out this card my true colors are all there to be seen.
Like I said make sure you have your I D cards guys at the gate with out it you might be one of them...............
Plus I always thought that if you had a Palace shirt, a scarf and shouted EEEEGLES on a match day (or any other day) that proved that you are proud to be associated with your team not a 20 quid bit of plastic.
I reckon there should be a part of the ground that's only for the real supporter like Brett and the "real" Palace fans and a part for ........ Well you know who you are ,don't you ?
Gooders
02-01-2001, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by Les Butler:
Shows your true colors ?????
Yep I admit it I am really a Utd fan posing as a Palace fan...
I knew it!
http://www.cpfc.org/ubb/biggrin.gif
David Murray
02-01-2001, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by Les Butler:
I always thought that if you had a Palace shirt, a scarf and shouted EEEEGLES on a match day (or any other day) that proved that you are proud to be associated with your team
Now you are just being plain silly http://www.cpfc.org/ubb/redface.gif
lightweight
02-01-2001, 03:21 PM
It's not about what makes a good supporter - it's about making sure that palace fans get tickets - not london based liverpool supporters or neutrals who might just fancy this one.
How else can the club do this than insist that the people buying tickets have a season ticket or a membership.
If I was unable to attend matches - I would buy a membership - it's as simple as that.
I mean if Man u fans can buy membership at wimbledon so they can go to the wimb v man u fixtures - then why can't anyone that's a palace fan buy a membership?
it's not about having a piece of plastic to prove you're a fan - to all and sundry - but it's one way that the club can ensure that they're not allowing glory hunters / opposition at the expense of the more loyal supporters.
If you don't have a season ticket or membership - and don't know anyone who has either of those that could use one of their 4 allowable spaces for you - then that I'm afriad is the way the cookie crumbles.
All those people that have complained about it being season tickets / members only - do you have a better suggestion???
anti-addick
02-01-2001, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by Brett:
If you cant be bothered to get membership then dont whinge when you cant get a ticket for Liverpool.
Yes, its that simple.
Absolutely Brett, but membership is not about support and true colours, but service. By buying membership you are buying a right to have a first refusal on tickets - there's nothing wrong with that - it's well known.
The way the ticket panic has gone I would think that it's mostly Palace that have picked up tickets anyway - thank God.
Les Butler
02-01-2001, 05:02 PM
Well said Lightweight.
http://www.cpfc.org/ubb/smile.gif
Spanish Dan
02-01-2001, 05:03 PM
I'm pretty much in a similar position to the original poster in that I've never had a season ticket, but always go to around 15 matches a season (and end up spending more..).
After we beat Tranmere though, I did (optimistically) start anticipate that these sort of problems might come up if we had a cup run and invested 20 quid in membership. All I did was went to the Palace site, filled in about 4 boxes and within days my membership was on my doormat. So in short - I've got little sympathy!
Neil, yes, another one!
02-01-2001, 08:12 PM
are tickets on sale for the away leg yet?
SIMON OF SELHURST
02-01-2001, 09:07 PM
I phoned through on the day that the tickets were on sale to season ticket holders and members and bought my two seats, I also phoned on the saturday after christmas and bought some for friends, whereas I am a bit surprised that we were allowed to buy so many (me and my son bought seven between us), I am also surprised that some people are complaining, you do not have to be one of the fortunates who have a season ticket to get priority for ticket allocation, a simple enrolment in the members scheme will do, it only costs a few quid and it helps our beloved club that was saved by a whisker from extinction , partly by the loyal fans who did buy memberships etc.
JohnA
02-01-2001, 11:22 PM
Originally posted by Neil, yes, another one!:
are tickets on sale for the away leg yet?
No. I was just told in the Box Office that they haven't been told when they go on sale.
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