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The EEEAAAGGGLLLEEE!!!
18-09-2005, 02:07 AM
Why are Cardiff allowed to have terraces. I thought all Premier and CCC grounds had to be all seaters.
follow cpfc
18-09-2005, 10:14 AM
I think you are allowed in the championship
dodge_bond
18-09-2005, 10:18 AM
you are allowed it in the championship, and i think your allowed them for 1 year in the premiership as long as you have plans to replace the terrace with seating! ! ! ! ! otherwise teams like cardiff are showing lack of ambition by not placing seats on their terracing as the message they are sending out is that they dont plan to get promoted! ! ! !
Neil the Eagle
18-09-2005, 10:20 AM
You are allowed them for up to three years in the Chapionship from when you get promoted.
If they don't go down, Cardiff have got some serious redevelopment to do next year.
nottsunieagle
18-09-2005, 10:40 AM
well what's the news with their new stadium? that should be ready in time if they're still not crippled by debt.
PhilD
18-09-2005, 11:15 AM
I don't think their new stadium will be finished for a few years yet, but I can't imagine they'll be doing anything to Ninian Park in the mean time.
dodge_bond
18-09-2005, 11:23 AM
i wouldnt spend a penny on ninian park, not worth it at all, money would be better spent on actually paying their players! ! !
follow cpfc
18-09-2005, 02:03 PM
Ninian Park is an awful ground. But the worst ground in the premiership was Pompeys it was awful
dodge_bond
18-09-2005, 02:11 PM
pompey is being revamped, they have been redevloping the area for a good 3-4 years. i tihnk fulham is also pretty shoddy, with no plans to reconstruct either. The plans got thrown out of the window and no new ones have been proposed.
Barry
18-09-2005, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by Neil the Eagle
they don't go down, Cardiff have got some serious redevelopment to do next year.
Not if they just bolt seating on the terraces.
dodge_bond
18-09-2005, 02:18 PM
bolting seats to the terraces is not as easy as it sounds for health and saftey reasons + it is very costly.
Barry
18-09-2005, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by dodge_bond
bolting seats to the terraces is not as easy as it sounds for health and saftey reasons + it is very costly.
Not as dear as building a whole new stand.
selhurstparkflyer
18-09-2005, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by dodge_bond
bolting seats to the terraces is not as easy as it sounds for health and saftey reasons + it is very costly.
The Irish do that for footie internationals at Landsdowne Road and Cardiff would only have to do it once as well.
If it has concrete plans to move stadium, I would have thought the League would let it continue with terracing, until its complete.
Jay_Palace
18-09-2005, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by follow cpfc
Ninian Park is an awful ground. But the worst ground in the premiership was Pompeys it was awful
As I have kept saying, Ninian Park is a true football ground and is a vestige of what makes football great. Who wants to see the game full of identikit mechano stadia as is the norm thesedays? Pompey is the same, and the atmosphere at Fratton Park probably beats any other ground in the country.
Football is becoming far too limp wristed in my opinion.
dodge_bond
18-09-2005, 02:41 PM
pompey's atmosphere is amazing because its a sell out every week and all the fans love it and get behind the team! ! ! !
i would like to see terracing brought back into the game but you can see the health and saftey issue.
Jay_Palace
18-09-2005, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by dodge_bond
pompey's atmosphere is amazing because its a sell out every week and all the fans love it and get behind the team! ! ! !
i would like to see terracing brought back into the game but you can see the health and saftey issue.
Not really, the Taylor report was a whitewash and terracing was unfairly blamed for the Hillsbrough disaster. I see absolutely no reason why if done properly terracing cannot be brought back. Anyway this was done a while back and is probably worth a separate thread in itself.
You're right about Pompey but the ground is intimidating by virtue of the fact its a shit hole and teams don't like playing there. You can't replicae that in a modern stadium. Who's scared about going to Pride Park or the KC Stadium? [the latter had the most pathetic atmosphere I think I've ever heard when Hull played Luton on tv yesterday]
Hope they dont get rid of the Tudor buildings at Fratton Park, weird but unique!
But Ninian Park is a real dump, thats for sure.
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Tom's Old Man
18-09-2005, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by Jay_Palace
As I have kept saying, Ninian Park is a true football ground and is a vestige of what makes football great. Who wants to see the game full of identikit mechano stadia as is the norm thesedays? Pompey is the same, and the atmosphere at Fratton Park probably beats any other ground in the country.
Football is becoming far too limp wristed in my opinion.
Personally I'm all for terracing.
The atmosphere is dire at some of these 'new' grounds.
Man City had 42000 v Palace last year, the atmosphere
was pathetic. Roker atmosphere walks all over Stadium of Light.
I like the traditional old grounds.
Addickted
18-09-2005, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by dodge_bond
pompey's atmosphere is amazing because its a sell out every week
The home areas weren't sold out yesterday. Lots of empty blue seats evident behind the goal.
RDSdaEAGLE
18-09-2005, 08:59 PM
Definately not a sell out every week.
My friends have asked me a few times whether I'd like to go. Obviously, with Palace playing, there's no chance.
I think fans are being priced out of going. The same is happening at quite a few teams, Birmingham is another one.
dodge_bond
18-09-2005, 08:59 PM
thats quite strange, its normally quite deifficult to get tickets for pompey, were thety the away fans seats????
Addickted
18-09-2005, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by dodge_bond
thats quite strange, its normally quite deifficult to get tickets for pompey, were thety the away fans seats????
Sure were. At least a block and a half adjacent to the Birmingham fans behind that goal.
PhilD
18-09-2005, 11:10 PM
Originally posted by RDSdaEAGLE
Definately not a sell out every week.
My friends have asked me a few times whether I'd like to go. Obviously, with Palace playing, there's no chance.
I think fans are being priced out of going. The same is happening at quite a few teams, Birmingham is another one.
I suspect that the Premiership novelty is starting to wear off now. They have the euphoria of staying up followed by the realisation that they'll be scraping around for 10 or so wins again the next year to ensure more of the same. Relegation battle after relegation battle must get you down after a while and I can't really see Pompey doing a Charlton and climbing up to a position where relegation looks impossible, perhaps I'll be proved wrong though.
PhilD
18-09-2005, 11:11 PM
Of course I should add that I'd love us to get into their position (ie 3 years in the top flight on the trot), but I think I'd want to see some more progress by the third year.
dodge_bond
19-09-2005, 12:21 PM
getting top players to a club like pompey is the difficult part as players outside of the english game will not see the plus points that the club have to offer i.e. passionate fans! !
they will just see, under par training facilities and a cr4p ground, when the fratton park redevelopment is nearing completion i think it might be easier to get big names coming to pompey.
Originally posted by Jay_Palace
As I have kept saying, Ninian Park is a true football ground and is a vestige of what makes football great. Who wants to see the game full of identikit mechano stadia as is the norm thesedays? Pompey is the same, and the atmosphere at Fratton Park probably beats any other ground in the country.
Football is becoming far too limp wristed in my opinion.
Whilst I agree with you about the bland identikit stadiums that are springing up everywhere I can't also share your enthusiasm for Pompey's ground I'm afraid That open terrace with seats bolted on to it that away fans get is a joke and as there's no roof it's hardly suprising that away fans get outsung there.
and they charge £30 for the privalidge
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