Online Poker Thread [Archive] - Page 23

Finbar

06-06-2007, 03:26 PM

Originally posted by DANCOO
Whoever was going to sort out a BBS online game, count me in (although a lot will depend on when/time). :p

me too, would need to be midweek and even then I can't guarantee I can make it, annoyingly busy at the mo. Anyway organise it and if I'm free i'll join in

anything up to £20 is ok for me, guess £5 or £10 is friendlier though

would we use Ladbrokes? Not sure I still have a valid card on there so let me know and i'll check. William Hill or Betfair preferred but think bbs have used Laddies in the past so that makes sense

think I'm 100% for BBS tournaments, 1 from 1

Speaking of Betfair has it improved since they updated the software last month?

Zola's Chin

06-06-2007, 07:06 PM

Originally posted by GeeTee
Hello all,

I'm a longtime lurker on this thread - first time poster.

I've been playing poker in home games with friends for about 4 years now, but have just started playing online back in January.

I play microstakes and freerolls and have built a little bankroll on PartyPoker, Paddy Power Poker and Sky Poker. I've also got a free $50 start up going through with Absolute at present.

Anyway, last night I was playing the Maxim King of Poker freeroll on Bet Fair and placed 16th from a field of 711. It's my best finish since winning $50 in the Paddy Power Easter Monday $5k freeroll - where I came 13th of 1000.

It's very frustrating not to have made a final table, despite coming so close, and I'd like your opinion on my exit last night (well, advice really as I kind of know what your opinion will be!).

I was playing tight agressive and the table were respecting that image - mainly folding to my raises.

My nemesis had survived a showdown with me when he had 13,000 chips to my 60,000 and I called his all-in with A9 suited. His o/s QK made a gutshot straight on the river to double him up and keep him alive.

20 minutes later I have 55,000 in chips and he has built up to 53,000. Blinds are 1,500/3,000 and he bets 13,000 from early position. I'm the big blind looking down at pocket queens.

I went to re-raise to 26,000 but something made me go all-in. He'd been all-in with any two face cards, ace rag, and very low pairs before - that must have been in my mind.

He had Kings and it was goodnight Vienna, six places from the money.

Where I think I went wrong is to forget that his recent increase in chips may have changed his hand selection. My take is that had I re-raised I could/should then have got out to a further re-raise and still been alive.

Does that sum it up?

As he put in his raise from early position, you have to put him on a decent hand rather than on a blind steal. QQ is obviously too big a hand to lay down so the 3 options are call, re-raise or all-in.
If you choose to re-raise him, that's a minimum 23k of your 55k committed to the pot. If he then puts you all-in, because there are more hands he might have that you are beating (JJ, TT, 99, AK, AQ) than there are hands you are losing too (AA or KK) I don't see how you can fold. Consequently, personally, I'd have gone all-in or called. If you call & the flop brings an A or K you can get away from the hand, maybe still with 40k.
At the end of the day you were very unlucky to have someone else at the table get an over pair to your QQ. Chances of that happening are small, but that's poker. Next time it'll be you with the cowboys & you'll be looking good for a big payout! :p

saul1664

06-06-2007, 09:36 PM

Played that tournament as well, and the standard was truly shocking (as you'd expect for a freeroll). Tourneys on PS tend to be a bit better quality wise but you get a lot of runners. You are unlucky as you pushed all in yourself only to run into Kings, if you raise and he puts you all in you are (fairly) pot committed so you were probably calling anyway unless you put him on AK AQ Ax and don't want the risk of running into the Ace and staying alive in the tournament. Unfortunate it was a freeroll with top 10 getting paid (not much anyway) rather then you already having cashed for getting that far.

Slimbloke'H'

06-06-2007, 10:53 PM

I had no idea this thread existed, I shall have to come back and natter...

Anyways, I noticed that someone playing as 'Selhurst' picked up a bit of coin on skypoker.com this evening. Is it anyone who posts here?

KevTheOptimist

07-06-2007, 10:44 AM

Interesting article about holding QQ in positon on the gutshot site. I'll try and find it.

KevTheOptimist

07-06-2007, 10:48 AM

http://www.gutshot.com/gscontent/view.php?id=1170&k=30

GeeTee

07-06-2007, 02:04 PM

Thanks for all of your comments re my Seigfried & Roy quandry!

I had a free $50 bankroll confirmed with Absolute Poker yesterday, and I won a nice short-handed SnG there last night, so I'm feeling happier with the poker gods.

Despite not breaking that King of Poker bubble, after nearly four hours play, the high finish has given me a lot of confidence. I'll try to forget that it was a weak field - I still class myself as a beginner too.

SamTheOldGoat

07-06-2007, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by KevTheOptimist
STOG has his own fans!

:clown:

No probs, just something that I wouldn't do generally, especially in a freeroll.

Had a mixed few days online, just playing between 4-8 tables on 1-2 and haven't turned a profit which is a shame as last week was savage profit wise. Going to put a good session in later on today and playing £25 rebuys tonight at Broadway, which is a great comp and you start with 2500 chips :)

Will organise tournament for next week then. It appears later on i.e. 10pm should be hte time to start?

saul1664

07-06-2007, 02:34 PM

Originally posted by GeeTee
Thanks for all of your comments re my Seigfried & Roy quandry!

I had a free $50 bankroll confirmed with Absolute Poker yesterday, and I won a nice short-handed SnG there last night, so I'm feeling happier with the poker gods.

Despite not breaking that King of Poker bubble, after nearly four hours play, the high finish has given me a lot of confidence. I'll try to forget that it was a weak field - I still class myself as a beginner too.

All I am saying is that you can learn bad habits in freerolls, you want to mix your game up a bit, nothing wrong with trying to cash in with freerolls, it is free money after all if you don't have a bankroll and don't mind playing for 4 to 5 hours to pick up $100. To be fair I have qualified for a 500K freeroll through a freeroll satellite so can't say too much.

Have gone back to betfair after desterting it and have won £140 in 3 days on $0.25/$0.50 tables, standard of play is shocking to say the least, have never had a losing session since I have gone back. Someone called me a calling station today because I raised with JJ and pushed all in when I had trips. :clown:

SamTheOldGoat

07-06-2007, 02:37 PM

BOOM! $300 up in 10 minutes of 4 tabling 1/2, hopefully variance is BACK! That'll pay for my crazy rebuying tonight!

SamTheOldGoat

07-06-2007, 02:39 PM

Gold Saul! Can you multi, i.e. are the tables resizeable?

Finbar

07-06-2007, 02:59 PM

I suspect the 'good' players deserted Betfair and haven't gone back, leaving the dross, might be worth another go

Finbar

07-06-2007, 03:04 PM

Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Gold Saul! Can you multi, i.e. are the tables resizeable?

Yep am sure they are, had a rebuild of the site back in May, my other half uses it and can't say it looks overly user friendly

saul1664

07-06-2007, 03:11 PM

You're supposed to be able to choose two options which enable you to resize any number of tables at will, but I can't work out how to do it, end up with multi tables stuck together which clutter up the screen, tournament structure still looks flawed with very few players and visually it still looks appalling.

Players on this level, seem to have read some poker book that says raising with anything (wildly overbetting) is the way to play poker, these players are quite easily trapped with premium hands, though you need a lot of patience. Other players tend to call pre flop with anything, so just ABC poker plus continuation betting after the flop is good enough to take the pot down. Don't know what the standard is like going up a few levels.

saul1664

07-06-2007, 03:13 PM

Having just said that pocket queens just ran into pocket kings.

oz_da II

07-06-2007, 03:29 PM

AJ has passed AA in my starting hand profit list tonight, have received it more than twice as many times but does seem strange. QQ still on top after 37,000 hands.

Passed 4BB/100 hands tonight as well, pleased with that, it too is over 37,000 hands (since Feb), mainly played at .25/.50 or .50/1.00 limit, just depends on who is playing, got many "interesting" players on my buddy list.

Had an interesting hand today. 6 handed. Very tight player UTG raises (pre-flop raise 4%), next player, very loose, raises, I'm next in CO with pocket T's. Ummm'ed and ahhh'd and chucked, two more players call...

Anyone play this differently?

Gav The Hamster

07-06-2007, 03:37 PM

In limit i'd defo be seeing a flop with 10 10 but then again I recognise it's probably not the correct play.

ho hum

DANCOO

07-06-2007, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by oz_da II

Had an interesting hand today. 6 handed. Very tight player UTG raises (pre-flop raise 4%), next player, very loose, raises, I'm next in CO with pocket T's. Ummm'ed and ahhh'd and chucked, two more players call...

Anyone play this differently?

Was the re-raiser the type of player to be taking notice of the original raisers tight image?

oz_da II

07-06-2007, 11:15 PM

Originally posted by DANCOO
Was the re-raiser the type of player to be taking notice of the original raisers tight image?

Probably not, plays almost evey hand, he had a VPIP of 80 with a pre-flop raise of about 7 or 8%. He was one of the reasons I was at the table.

saul1664

07-06-2007, 11:44 PM

Doubled up again. Thanks to a nice all in call of 26 off suit to my two pair. Yum.

saul1664

08-06-2007, 12:05 AM

Now trebled up from initial buy in + a further $10, busted through the £200 barrier in less than a week. Cracked AA with 8K due to flush when Aces slow played the board until the club hit and then tried to push me off. Didn't put him on the A flush so pushed him all in and he called for another nice pot. Yum again.

oz_da II

08-06-2007, 12:10 AM

Originally posted by saul1664
Doubled up again. Thanks to a nice all in call of 26 off suit to my two pair. Yum.

What was out there for him to make the call?

DANCOO

08-06-2007, 08:12 AM

Two nowheres, then cashed in the Hi/Lo last night, and that was after having my stack decimated three times throughout the tournament putting me in last place for a lot of it. :p

Eagle Of Cray

08-06-2007, 09:09 AM

I'm surprised at how just a slight change in your 'goals' can produce results, although I am at present playing at the lowest end (freerolls) I've noticed a change in my game just by setting my targets slightly higher.

Since I started playing online about a month ago I've played the majority of freerolls on Ladbrokes and from the outset, being a virtual novice, I aimed to finish in the top 50% of entrants and until I changed my target recently I had achieved this 55% of the time. During these tournaments I had finished in the top 10% of entrants on 9% of occasions.

After my, admittedly limited, experience and reading a couple of poker books I decided to aim to finish in the top 10% and whilst its based on a smaller number of tournaments I have achieved this on 35% of occasions since this change of thinking. I hope this figure stands up when I have played a similar number of tournaments as my original sample.

As I've said before I understand this is a different scenario to cash games but anywhere I can show an improvement to my game is welcomed. As well as continuing with this revised target it is my aim to make a final table, something that so far has eluded me.

DANCOO

08-06-2007, 09:24 AM

Just a quick mention on freerolls.

Several months back I played in the daily cruise freeroll on Laddies (it still runs everyday).
I qualified for the weekly final from this.
In the weekly final, top four (I think it was), went through to the main final, fifth place cashed at around $500+
I finished fifth, so effectively won over $500 from a freeroll.
So it's definately worth playing the tourney freerolls aswell as the cash ones.

Eagle Of Cray

08-06-2007, 09:37 AM

Originally posted by DANCOO
Just a quick mention on freerolls.

Several months back I played in the daily cruise freeroll on Laddies (it still runs everyday).
I qualified for the weekly final from this.
In the weekly final, top four (I think it was), went through to the main final, fifth place cashed at around $500+
I finished fifth, so effectively won over $500 from a freeroll.
So it's definately worth playing the tourney freerolls aswell as the cash ones.

Didn't you mention this on this thread? And also IIRC didn't someone buy your place from you?

DANCOO

08-06-2007, 09:46 AM

I think I did mention it before, yes.

There were five of us left, and two of us wanted to take the cash rather than the place.

For some reason the other players sided with me and they all said they would fold whenever the other player pushed.
Can't remember exactly what happened, but I think I got all my chips in with junk against the other bloke, and took the cash. :D

saul1664

08-06-2007, 07:29 PM

Originally posted by oz_da II
What was out there for him to make the call?

Nothing. All in pre flop.

Slimbloke'H'

08-06-2007, 11:48 PM

Originally posted by Slimbloke'H'
I had no idea this thread existed, I shall have to come back and natter...

Anyways, I noticed that someone playing as 'Selhurst' picked up a bit of coin on skypoker.com this evening. Is it anyone who posts here? I take it that's a no then... :(

oz_da II

09-06-2007, 01:43 AM

Originally posted by saul1664
Nothing. All in pre flop.

How much? Must have been on the biggest of all tilts.

saul1664

09-06-2007, 07:40 AM

$7.80, had a short stack.

This was a good hand last night. Have 34 offsuit in big blind, hit the check fold button to fold to any raise, everyone checks to me, flop 338, bet 2 x BB ($1), 2 callers, turn comes down 4 for full house, bet 2 x BB, one caller folds, the other calls $1, river brings J to bring 3 diamonds on the board, caller checks. Pot is $7, call $5, not expecting to get a call, he re-raises to $10. Sniff a bluff so put him all in, he calls for all his stack about $30 and I collect the pot, no idea what he had.

Strathclyde Eagle

09-06-2007, 09:10 AM

Originally posted by saul1664
Nothing. All in pre flop.
Overplaying AK? (Guess)
Originally posted by saul1664
$7.80, had a short stack.

This was a good hand last night. Have 34 offsuit in big blind, hit the check fold button to fold to any raise, everyone checks to me, flop 338, bet 2 x BB ($1), 2 callers, turn comes down 4 for full house, bet 2 x BB, one caller folds, the other calls $1, river brings J to bring 3 diamonds on the board, caller checks. Pot is $7, call $5, not expecting to get a call, he re-raises to $10. Sniff a bluff so put him all in, he calls for all his stack about $30 and I collect the pot, no idea what he had.
Nut flush?

DANCOO

09-06-2007, 10:22 AM

Originally posted by Slimbloke'H'
I take it that's a no then... :(

When I used to play on Will Hill I came across a cpfc(something). Chatted to him a few times, he was a HOL member.
Tried to convert him, no luck though. :D

saul1664

09-06-2007, 11:19 AM

Originally posted by Strathclyde Eagle
Overplaying AK? (Guess)

Nut flush?

Why flat call the flush draw, and check the river when first to act (unless he was trying to check raise).

saul1664

09-06-2007, 11:22 AM

Originally posted by Strathclyde Eagle
Overplaying AK? (Guess)

Nut flush?

Did hand out a brutal beat to nut flush a couple of days ago, hold 5h 6h flop is 3h 4h, opponent on flush draw as well, flop checked, he bets $2.70 on turn which is easy to call with open ended straight draw, open ended straight flush draw plus flush draw. River 7h. I'm first to act so check the river, he pushes me all in. I gladly call. :p

Strathclyde Eagle

09-06-2007, 01:37 PM

Trying to hit his flush cheaply? If it comes to a pushing match with his flush draw to your one pair you're actually favourite (60/40 I think). Maybe the check-raise attempt on the river is because he thinks you might have one pair/two pair, but have shown aggression so he acts like he doesn't have it, then pushs in over the top of you.

Not entirely sure obviously (might be giving him too much credit), just some thoughts.

saul1664

09-06-2007, 06:13 PM

Quite possibly. I never try to see cheap flush draws, always build money into the pot, otherwise you never get a call on the river. Hitting a nut flush on the river with say $15 in the pot is much easier to induce a bet rather than a pot with $4.

saul1664

09-06-2007, 11:40 PM

Is there any skill involved at all in Limit Hold Em?

Strathclyde Eagle

09-06-2007, 11:56 PM

Ask oz_da. That's his game of choice. :p

SamTheOldGoat

10-06-2007, 12:05 AM

Boring day online, won about $50, still on a downswing, move in with my brother next weekend and that's when I'll be playing 24/7. Can't wait :D

Been playing 2/4fl earlier on as I want to learn to play it as I've watched my bro smash 10/20 and 20/40 on Stars and Paradise, do you know of any good books etc Oz?

oz_da II

10-06-2007, 07:34 AM

Originally posted by saul1664
Is there any skill involved at all in Limit Hold Em?

Obviously is, more skill than no limit, in my opinion.
More decisions to make as a decision needs to be made after every card. You can't just get a hand and shove your stack in hoping some buffoon calls with rubbish. A more subtle and I think far more interesting game than no-limit.

Strange question...

oz_da II

10-06-2007, 08:00 AM

Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Been playing 2/4fl earlier on as I want to learn to play it as I've watched my bro smash 10/20 and 20/40 on Stars and Paradise, do you know of any good books etc Oz?

The best book and what many refer to as the Bible for limit poker is "Small Stakes Hold'em (Winning Big with Expert Play) by Sklansky, Miller and Malmuth, it is a 2+2 publication. I've read it three times and if you follow their "formula" you can't go wrong, it really is fool proof and very profitable. Not sure if the tactics they descibe would work for the high limits your brother plays as it is mainly designed for playing against absolute idiots. I've been told "Winning Low-Limit Hold'em" by Lee Jones is another good one for up to $4/$8 limit. "Middle Limit Holdem Poker" by Bob Ciaffone is apparently good for the stuff your brother is playing (gets some good reviews, I've not got that one).

An update on my recent play, I've been playing most of my limit poker at TitanPoker as I'm running at just under 7BB/100 hands. Crazy tables and plenty of idiots who are only to happy donate their chips in my direction. I suppose it's like that at most sites but some if it on Titan is just unbelievable. Been playing 25c/50c to 50c/$1. Got a big "buddy list" there Only play tables where I've got at least one known mug. Happy to four-table, haven't gone any higher yet. (Join up so I can get a referral, $75 I think :p ;))

I play bet365 for comedic value, some weird shit happens there (I was running at +0.5BB/100 hands for about 15 thousand hands) probably nothing in it but it does get to your head, I've turned it around on that site in recent times.

Got an account at Ladbrokes as well where I play NL and tourneys, but not very often.

Looking to make a nice big cash out of TitanPoker soon and join up with a larger site, probably PokerStars. Won't be leaving Titan though, play is so stinky (mainly french). :p

saul1664

10-06-2007, 09:39 AM

Originally posted by oz_da II
Obviously is, more skill than no limit, in my opinion.
More decisions to make as a decision needs to be made after every card. You can't just get a hand and shove your stack in hoping some buffoon calls with rubbish. A more subtle and I think far more interesting game than no-limit.

Strange question...

Was playing 0.25/0.50 whilst waiting for a NL table. Was impossible to get anybody off a hand - 9 handed table, always at least 6 calling all the way to the river and hitting from any two cards. Find it a frustrating game to be honest though may be better at higher levels.

oz_da II

10-06-2007, 09:54 AM

Originally posted by saul1664
Was playing 0.25/0.50 whilst waiting for a NL table. Was impossible to get anybody off a hand - 9 handed table, always at least 6 calling all the way to the river and hitting from any two cards. Find it a frustrating game to be honest though may be better at higher levels.

In limit you need to tighten up your play (compared to NL) and hit them hard when you have the goods. You need those type of players playing the way they do (chasers) to build the pot up. Nothing worse than having a great hand with everyone folding to one bet and you take in a small pot.

I play 6 handed tables. I find there to be more action and much more profitable. Need to be much more tighter on 10 handed tables.

SamTheOldGoat

10-06-2007, 12:05 PM

2881

Ok, I'll grab one of those asap and recommend the other to my brother. Cheers Oz :)

PoolKing

10-06-2007, 12:18 PM

Originally posted by oz_da II

I play bet365 for comedic value, some weird shit happens there (I was running at +0.5BB/100 hands for about 15 thousand hands) probably nothing in it but it does get to your head, I've turned it around on that site in recent times.

Last night I lost on bet365 with full house vs. full house. Then to top it off I turned a full house only to lose to a player who flopped a straight flush :(

oz_da II

10-06-2007, 12:47 PM

Originally posted by PoolKing
Last night I lost on bet365 with full house vs. full house. Then to top it off I turned a full house only to lose to a player who flopped a straight flush :(

Ouch, on bet365 I recently had a terrible run of having top pair top kicker between by a player having top pair rubbish kicker hitting their kicker on the river for two pair, happened an uncanny amount of times.

:clown:

SamTheOldGoat

10-06-2007, 01:48 PM

Had a fcuking disgusting morning this morning. Sat with 700 over various tables and was down to 140 in the matter of 2 hours. Tilted heavy which is pretty rare for me, and thought sod it, let's have a wanger a 3/6, which I don't play very often. Ground down for a couple of rounds then....

PokerStars Game #10363945577: Hold'em No Limit ($3/$6) - 2007/06/10 - 09:42:32 (ET)
Table 'Ilos' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 3: mydusty ($563.45 in chips)
Seat 4: consideratio ($329.10 in chips)
Seat 5: NiceHitFish© ($144.15 in chips)
Seat 6: alpster ($277.15 in chips)
Seat 7: bettechubby ($275.15 in chips)
Seat 8: Sir.bad07 ($535.80 in chips)
Seat 9: bryanboyd ($1037.65 in chips)
alpster: posts small blind $3
bettechubby: posts big blind $6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NiceHitFish© [Ad 4d]
Sir.bad07: folds
bryanboyd: folds
mydusty: calls $6
consideratio: folds
NiceHitFish©: calls $6
alpster: calls $3
bettechubby: checks
*** FLOP *** [4h 3d Ac]
alpster: checks
bettechubby: bets $12
mydusty: calls $12
NiceHitFish©: raises $30 to $42
alpster: folds
bettechubby: folds
mydusty: calls $30
*** TURN *** [4h 3d Ac] [7c]
mydusty: checks
NiceHitFish©: bets $36
mydusty: calls $36
*** RIVER *** [4h 3d Ac 7c] [9s]
mydusty: checks
NiceHitFish©: bets $60.15 and is all-in
mydusty: calls $60.15
*** SHOW DOWN ***
NiceHitFish©: shows [Ad 4d] (two pair, Aces and Fours)
mydusty: mucks hand
NiceHitFish© collected $309.30 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $312.30 | Rake $3
Board [4h 3d Ac 7c 9s]
Seat 3: mydusty mucked [Td Ah]
Seat 4: consideratio folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: NiceHitFish© (button) showed [Ad 4d] and won ($309.30) with two pair, Aces and Fours
Seat 6: alpster (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: bettechubby (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: Sir.bad07 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: bryanboyd folded before Flop (didn't bet)

AND this the very hand after...Most losses back, that'll be it until the Sunday majors later. Phew.

PokerStars Game #10363955423: Hold'em No Limit ($3/$6) - 2007/06/10 - 09:43:33 (ET)
Table 'Ilos' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 3: mydusty ($419.30 in chips)
Seat 4: consideratio ($329.10 in chips)
Seat 5: NiceHitFish© ($309.30 in chips)
Seat 6: alpster ($271.15 in chips)
Seat 7: bettechubby ($257.15 in chips)
Seat 8: Sir.bad07 ($535.80 in chips)
Seat 9: bryanboyd ($1037.65 in chips)
bettechubby: posts small blind $3
Sir.bad07: posts big blind $6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NiceHitFish© [Kc Kh]
bryanboyd: folds
mydusty: raises $18 to $24
consideratio: folds
NiceHitFish©: raises $48 to $72
alpster: folds
bettechubby: folds
Sir.bad07: folds
mydusty: calls $48
*** FLOP *** [7s 5d Jc]
mydusty: checks
NiceHitFish©: bets $86
mydusty: calls $86
*** TURN *** [7s 5d Jc] [7h]
mydusty: checks
NiceHitFish©: bets $151.30 and is all-in
mydusty: calls $151.30
*** RIVER *** [7s 5d Jc 7h] [4h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
mydusty: shows [Ts Tc] (two pair, Tens and Sevens)
NiceHitFish©: shows [Kc Kh] (two pair, Kings and Sevens)
NiceHitFish© collected $624.60 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $627.60 | Rake $3
Board [7s 5d Jc 7h 4h]
Seat 3: mydusty showed [Ts Tc] and lost with two pair, Tens and Sevens
Seat 4: consideratio folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: NiceHitFish© showed [Kc Kh] and won ($624.60) with two pair, Kings and Sevens
Seat 6: alpster (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: bettechubby (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: Sir.bad07 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: bryanboyd folded before Flop (didn't bet)

SamTheOldGoat

10-06-2007, 01:52 PM

Obv rigged Oz ;)

Ps my bad morning was overpair V overpair 3 times, KK v AA, AA V JJ, AK v AQ. Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez I'm relieved so have some back, I thought it was going to be one of the worst days on my record

oz_da II

10-06-2007, 01:58 PM

Nice work repairing the damage, STOG

I wonder what "mydusty" thought he was beating in that second hand.
First hand was terrible from him as well.

Mydusty = very stinky, down over $400 in two hands of 3/6 NL.
Very nice :D You'll want to look out for him in the future.

oz_da II

10-06-2007, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Obv rigged Oz ;)

Without a doubt. :moo:

Haven't seen our "it's all rigged, I've got proof but won't show it" mate on this thread for awhile. :clown:

SamTheOldGoat

10-06-2007, 02:03 PM

Thanks dude, yup, loved seeing his cards in the HH. Completely agree, imo the second hand he's beating air (AK), the first is plain nasty as well!

Ahh well, just preparing for an exam and playing a little bit of 3/6 again but left that table sharpish incase my tilt-ness comes back!

SamTheOldGoat

10-06-2007, 02:06 PM

No, maybe he's rebelling against the poker sites?

Something I've been meaning to ask you for a while Oz, what happens with taxes and Joe Hachems win, how much would he have kept of the 7.5m, and do you know if he had backers?

Just had this on new 3.6 tables. After Rugbys smooth call on turn, thought I was up against higher FD.... Nm

PokerStars Game #10364144011: Hold'em No Limit ($3/$6) - 2007/06/10 - 10:02:35 (ET)
Table 'Ginevra' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: KAROyal ($679.65 in chips)
Seat 2: wpr101 ($591 in chips)
Seat 3: dr64 ($471.45 in chips)
Seat 4: NiceHitFish© ($120 in chips)
Seat 5: hoodiewho ($339.30 in chips)
Seat 6: boys78 ($62.80 in chips)
Seat 7: Friends90 ($507.90 in chips)
Seat 8: cologneboy30 ($94.40 in chips)
Seat 9: Rugby4Me ($541.65 in chips)
dr64: posts small blind $3
NiceHitFish©: posts big blind $6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NiceHitFish© [9h 5h]
hoodiewho: folds
boys78: folds
Friends90: folds
cologneboy30: calls $6
Rugby4Me: calls $6
KAROyal: folds
wpr101: calls $6
dr64: calls $3
NiceHitFish©: checks
*** FLOP *** [Jc Kh 7h]
dr64: checks
NiceHitFish©: checks
cologneboy30: checks
Rugby4Me: checks
wpr101: checks
*** TURN *** [Jc Kh 7h] [2c]
dr64: checks
NiceHitFish©: checks
cologneboy30: bets $12
Rugby4Me: calls $12
wpr101: folds
dr64: folds
NiceHitFish©: calls $12
*** RIVER *** [Jc Kh 7h 2c] [4h]
NiceHitFish©: checks
cologneboy30: checks
Rugby4Me: bets $42
NiceHitFish©: calls $42
cologneboy30: folds
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Rugby4Me: shows [2d 2s] (three of a kind, Deuces)
NiceHitFish©: shows [9h 5h] (a flush, King high)
NiceHitFish© collected $147 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $150 | Rake $3
Board [Jc Kh 7h 2c 4h]
Seat 1: KAROyal folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: wpr101 (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 3: dr64 (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 4: NiceHitFish© (big blind) showed [9h 5h] and won ($147) with a flush, King high
Seat 5: hoodiewho folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: boys78 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Friends90 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: cologneboy30 folded on the River
Seat 9: Rugby4Me showed [2d 2s] and lost with three of a kind, Deuces

SamTheOldGoat

10-06-2007, 02:13 PM

Paying people off left right and centre now!

PS, Devilfish came 3rd in $5k rebuy at the WSOP!

oz_da II

10-06-2007, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Something I've been meaning to ask you for a while Oz, what happens with taxes and Joe Hachems win, how much would he have kept of the 7.5m, and do you know if he had backers?

He kept all the cash he took home as, at the time, he was a mortgage broker and poker was his hobby (US gov't took 30% apparently). Here in Australia you pay no tax on pursuing hobbies.

I don't think he had any backers as his decision to go to LV and play the WSOP was a last minute decision. Secondly, I don't think he would have had any backers as he didn't really have any previous success in tournament poker, his highest previous win was about $3,000. Not 100% sure but I've never heard it mentioned.

oz_da II

10-06-2007, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
*** TURN *** [Jc Kh 7h] [2c]
dr64: checks
NiceHitFish©: checks
cologneboy30: bets $12
Rugby4Me: calls $12
wpr101: folds
dr64: folds
NiceHitFish©: calls $12

Seat 9: Rugby4Me showed [2d 2s] and lost with three of a kind, Deuces

I'm thinking massive error here from the egg-chaser.
Got to make them pay to chase their flushes and/or straights.

SamTheOldGoat

10-06-2007, 02:24 PM

Ahhh, why would the US take 30%, I thought I was right in saying this is taken initially but can be claimed back or is this not the case with Aussie residents? Is he a 'celebrity' in OZ?

SamTheOldGoat

10-06-2007, 02:26 PM

Originally posted by oz_da II
I'm thinking massive error here from the egg-chaser.
Got to make them pay to chase their flushes and/or straights.

Agree, poor flat call from initial raiser. How do you play the Riv in my position with no info etc bearing in mind I haven't got much behind me, from a NL point of view ;)

SamTheOldGoat

10-06-2007, 02:31 PM

It's OK, I've doubled up again and we are off.... wtf is 'KARO' thinking here, is he paying just to see my cards?

PokerStars Game #10364417641: Hold'em No Limit ($3/$6) - 2007/06/10 - 10:28:06 (ET)
Table 'Ginevra' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: KAROyal ($755.70 in chips)
Seat 3: Bagarn72 ($597.15 in chips)
Seat 4: NiceHitFish© ($163.40 in chips)
Seat 5: mawaw ($360 in chips)
Seat 6: KingKobra ($406 in chips)
Seat 7: Friends90 ($1066.80 in chips)
Seat 8: cologneboy30 ($216.20 in chips)
Seat 9: Rugby4Me ($358.65 in chips)
Bagarn72: posts small blind $3
NiceHitFish©: posts big blind $6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NiceHitFish© [Qd Kc]
mawaw: folds
KingKobra: folds
Friends90: folds
cologneboy30: folds
mawaw leaves the table
Rugby4Me: folds
KAROyal: raises $14 to $20
Bagarn72: folds
SobraoBoY joins the table at seat #5
NiceHitFish©: calls $14
*** FLOP *** [7s 6c 6d]
NiceHitFish©: checks
KAROyal: checks
*** TURN *** [7s 6c 6d] [Qc]
NiceHitFish©: checks
KAROyal: checks
*** RIVER *** [7s 6c 6d Qc] [2s]
NiceHitFish©: bets $12
KAROyal: calls $12
*** SHOW DOWN ***
NiceHitFish©: shows [Qd Kc] (two pair, Queens and Sixes)
KAROyal: mucks hand
NiceHitFish© collected $64 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $67 | Rake $3
Board [7s 6c 6d Qc 2s]
Seat 1: KAROyal (button) mucked [Jh As]
Seat 3: Bagarn72 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: NiceHitFish© (big blind) showed [Qd Kc] and won ($64) with two pair, Queens and Sixes
Seat 5: mawaw folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: KingKobra folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Friends90 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: cologneboy30 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

oz_da II

10-06-2007, 02:37 PM

Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Ahhh, why would the US take 30%, I thought I was right in saying this is taken initially but can be claimed back or is this not the case with Aussie residents? Is he a 'celebrity' in OZ?

Not sure if he could claim it back, I don't think so, though.

Hachem's lawyer, Peter Donovan, successfully argued the case that poker was his client's hobby, not his profession, when he won the Main Event; At the time, he was working as a mortgage broker in Melbourne. The government's ruling has saved Hachem from forking over AUD $3.5 million in taxes. Meanwhile, the American government has already taken 30%, or AUD $3 million, of Hachem's win.

Not a celebrity here at all and wouldn't be known outside the poker community (it is very popular here though, booming). He does have one commercial here for PokerStars so people may affiliate him with poker (the ad is only on during poker shows, though) I believe he's recently moved to the States fulltime.

samtheeagle

10-06-2007, 02:37 PM

Came third in $10 rebuy on Bodog last night and walked away with $700.
My biggest win yet.
Thought i'd try my luck at a 10 seater turbo buyin $50 with my new found bankroll and hit 3 pocket aces in my first 5 hands! I've never won a sit and go so quickly!

oz_da II

10-06-2007, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Agree, poor flat call from initial raiser. How do you play the Riv in my position with no info etc bearing in mind I haven't got much behind me, from a NL point of view ;)

I'd probably just call, it appears that may have hit a flush (hopefully for you low suited connectors), as he only called the turn bet (either that or a busted straight draw and he's bluffing), plus you have a guy to act behind you, so maybe he makes a crying call with top pair or whatever rubbish he's got.

SamTheOldGoat

10-06-2007, 02:56 PM

Agree..... :)

Congrats Sam, top work :0

Reps AJ

10-06-2007, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by samtheeagle
Came third in $10 rebuy on Bodog last night and walked away with $700.
My biggest win yet.
Thought i'd try my luck at a 10 seater turbo buyin $50 with my new found bankroll and hit 3 pocket aces in my first 5 hands! I've never won a sit and go so quickly!

Nice one :p

Reps AJ

10-06-2007, 03:53 PM

21d3

Don't you just love it when you BB is simply called by the SB and you flop a monster :D

Playing in a SNG and look down to see 27os so I'm going to fold to any bet, but its simply called. Flop comes 228 and fortunately SB has K8 and doubled me up :)

oz_da II

10-06-2007, 05:51 PM

Can't seem to go wrong with AJ for some reason. I know many people aren't keen on it. It's now my second most profitable hand. In front of AA, QQ, JJ & AK (KK is my most profitbale hand). It's a winning hand 55% of the times I get it, that's exceptional with the calling stations I'm usually up against.

I've won 4 times as much cash with AJ than I have with AK and received it near on the same amount of times, roughly 350 times. Stats are almost the exact same except for the won at showdown %. 15% higher with AJ...

Almost up to the 40,000 hands mark on my database. :moo:

SamTheOldGoat

10-06-2007, 06:11 PM

AJ makes me want to puke especially out of position!

oz_da II

10-06-2007, 06:20 PM

I fire away everytime, I can recall dumping it a few times to a raise and a reraise pre-flop (just looked it up 6 times folded preflop). What I find with the majority of tools I'm up against is I can get away cheaply when I'm outkicked or miss as they'll raise my bet after the flop comes out rather than play it a bit cool, I'll always fire again after a pre-flop raise no matter what the flop is.

KevTheOptimist

10-06-2007, 07:52 PM

Not really too happy about this but oh well, sh1t happens I guess(is this pure gayness or did I play badly in someway?):

** Game ID 768000850 starting - 2007-06-10 20:44:58
** Hastings [Hold 'em] (0.25|0.50 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money

- GunnarBertil sitting in seat 1 with $71.78
- Nix_10 sitting in seat 2 with $60.14 [Dealer]
- zepher1 sitting in seat 3 with $48.75
- AmandA_84 sitting in seat 4 with $53.04
- Morpheus2004 sitting in seat 5 with $48.19
- KanAbyss sitting in seat 6 with $37.18

zepher1 posted the small blind - $0.25
AmandA_84 posted the big blind - $0.50

** Dealing card to KanAbyss: Jack of Diamonds, King of Diamonds
Morpheus2004 raised - $2.00
KanAbyss called - $2.00
GunnarBertil folded
Nix_10 folded
zepher1 folded
AmandA_84 called - $2.00

** Dealing the flop: 8 of Diamonds, Jack of Hearts, 3 of Clubs
AmandA_84 checked
Morpheus2004 bet - $6.25
KanAbyss called - $6.25
AmandA_84 folded

** Dealing the turn: 2 of Clubs
Morpheus2004 bet - $18.75
KanAbyss went all-in - $28.93
Morpheus2004 called - $28.93

** Dealing the river: Queen of Hearts
KanAbyss shows: Jack of Diamonds, King of Diamonds
Morpheus2004 shows: Queen of Clubs, Ace of Clubs
Morpheus2004 wins $73.61 from the main pot

KevTheOptimist

10-06-2007, 07:54 PM

Based on his previous plays, he over plays any small PP or AX. I put him on something like 99, 88, 77, 66, AK, AQ. Was gonna fild to his bet thinking he hit trips but decided to call as he madeexactly the same play a few hands earlier on a nothing board with AK.

Gav The Hamster

10-06-2007, 08:19 PM

Only thing I would have done was raise the flop when you hit top pair.

The actual beat itself is harsh as he is drawing to so few cards and you obviously got v unlucky

SamTheOldGoat

10-06-2007, 08:44 PM

Would have raised flop to see where you were, if he calls, fold turn because I think I'm beating not much...... He loves the turn with 2 overs and f.d...... UL anyway :(

SamTheOldGoat

10-06-2007, 08:45 PM

I wouldn't say the beats harsh, he has a lot of river outs.....

Gav The Hamster

10-06-2007, 09:06 PM

ah, didnt see the flush draw, in that case, no its not "harsh".

saul1664

10-06-2007, 09:30 PM

Tournaments are still crap on betfair. Join a turbo qualifer for $50 tournament later on tonight. Volatile as you'd expect. Have QQ, last to act, blinds 15/30, one raise to 200 chips, I put him all in, he calls with 35 and flops the full house. Told him it was a pile of wank to which he replied QQ is! Back to the cash tables I think.

DANCOO

10-06-2007, 09:32 PM

Originally posted by saul1664
Tournaments are still crap on betfair. Join a turbo qualifer for $50 tournament later on tonight. Volatile as you'd expect. Have QQ, last to act, blinds 15/30, one raise to 200 chips, I put him all in, he calls with 35 and flops the full house. Told him it was a pile of wank to which he replied QQ is! Back to the cash tables I think.

Turbo qualifiers are ALL about the blinds, nothing else.

SamTheOldGoat

10-06-2007, 10:53 PM

jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez, wtf do I run so bad

PokerStars Game #10371774034: Tournament #51838513, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/06/10 - 18:46:02 (ET)
Table '51838513 57' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: /-/4rris (2880 in chips)
Seat 2: baffalo (6400 in chips)
Seat 3: MARK2171111 (3480 in chips)
Seat 4: timkrank (2770 in chips)
Seat 5: puntnko (2990 in chips)
Seat 6: Luckies1010 (2570 in chips)
Seat 7: SaulGoodBaby (2730 in chips)
Seat 8: jschAA (3570 in chips)
Seat 9: FilmDirector (3820 in chips)
SaulGoodBaby: posts small blind 15
jschAA: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to /-/4rris [Jh Jc]
/-/4rris said, "YAWN"
FilmDirector: raises 70 to 100
/-/4rris: calls 100
baffalo: folds
MARK2171111: folds
timkrank: folds
puntnko: raises 230 to 330
Luckies1010: folds
SaulGoodBaby: folds
jschAA: folds
FilmDirector: calls 230
/-/4rris: calls 230
*** FLOP *** [5s Jd 6d]
FilmDirector: checks
/-/4rris: checks
puntnko: bets 600
FilmDirector: folds
/-/4rris: raises 630 to 1230
puntnko: raises 1430 to 2660 and is all-in
/-/4rris: calls 1320 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [5s Jd 6d] [Qh]
*** RIVER *** [5s Jd 6d Qh] [Th]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
/-/4rris: shows [Jh Jc] (three of a kind, Jacks)
puntnko: shows [Qs Qd] (three of a kind, Queens)
puntnko collected 6135 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6135 | Rake 0
Board [5s Jd 6d Qh Th]
Seat 1: /-/4rris showed [Jh Jc] and lost with three of a kind, Jacks
Seat 2: baffalo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: MARK2171111 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: timkrank folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: puntnko showed [Qs Qd] and won (6135) with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 6: Luckies1010 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: SaulGoodBaby (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: jschAA (big blind) folded before Flop

saul1664

10-06-2007, 11:37 PM

Originally posted by DANCOO
Turbo qualifiers are ALL about the blinds, nothing else.

I'm sure. You either get $5 or $10 tourneys on betfair with 40 odd runners or it goes up to $50-$166 buy in which average 23 runners. Totally bizarre.

Did try $5 tourney

Got to last 20, had 3000 chips, lot of bigger stacks so decide to push all in with 10 10 in late position, no raises before me, and big stack calls with A3. Unfortunately 5 consecutive hearts split the pot. Same thing happens with AK against AQ when two pair on the board split the pot. Then finally crash out when Q9 makes Q on board with two diamonds (on flush draw as well) to QK.

Cash game remains pretty solid though.

Quick edit: Trip 6's and Trip 7's have just been rivered in near consecutive hands by flush chasers. Time to stop before I go on tilt.

saul1664

11-06-2007, 11:06 AM

Agggh. Have KK, raise to $2 to go, one caller, Flop comes K28 rainbow. Bet $2, turn comes 3, other guy is first to act he raises $5, so I flat call, ready to take all his chips down. River is 2, I now have full house. He bets $8. Cant put him on anything to beat me so put him all in. He has 22 for quads, full house beaten by quads on the river. :eek:

saul1664

11-06-2007, 01:37 PM

Terrible day today. Lost 2nd buy in. Have As 10s, get raised by one caller. Flop comes out 10 10 5, no spades but powerful hand nonetheless, caller re-raises to $4.20 on flop, I put him all in, he turns over QQ and rivers the queen. :eek: :sob:

samtheeagle

11-06-2007, 01:42 PM

Ouch

samtheeagle

11-06-2007, 02:01 PM

Can anyone recomend a good poker book for me? I'd like to think i'm currently playing a fairly good standard but want to go that extra step. I normally play sit and go's between $10-20 and multi table rebuy tourny's. Advice would be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

Finbar

11-06-2007, 02:03 PM

Just ordered these 3, will let you know what the last one is like once I've read it which will be in a month (when I return from Marbella)

Not much use now I think of it...

1 of Anthony Holden (Author) "Big Deal: One Year as a Professional
Poker Player"
Usually dispatched within 24 hours

1 of Michael Craig (Author) "The Professor, the Banker and the
Suicide King: Inside the Richest Poker Game of All Time"
Usually dispatched within 24 hours

1 of John Vorhaus (Author) "Killer Poker Online: Advanced
Strategies for Crushing the Internet Game: v. 2"
Usually dispatched in 1-2 weeks

Gav The Hamster

11-06-2007, 03:50 PM

Saul, do you play poker for a living ? You seem to be play it all the time !!

oz_da II

11-06-2007, 04:16 PM

Originally posted by Finbar
1 of John Vorhaus (Author) "Killer Poker Online: Advanced
Strategies for Crushing the Internet Game: v. 2"
Usually dispatched in 1-2 weeks

I've got that one, not too bad. He's got some good ideas, nothing on strategy. The book really enforces concentration, good note keeping and not tilting.

saul1664

11-06-2007, 04:19 PM

Originally posted by Gav The Hamster
Saul, do you play poker for a living ? You seem to be play it all the time !!

I wish. No, but my g/f probably thinks so. I work shift patterns so often get 2 to 3 days off in a row, so play lots then.

oz_da II

11-06-2007, 04:20 PM

Another nice profit tonight (that's 13 playing days in a row for anyone who is interested). :moo: ;)
Flopped two full houses which always helps, especially when you got four maniacs chasing and hitting their straights or flushes vs the nuts.

:lux:

Reps AJ

11-06-2007, 05:33 PM

Originally posted by saul1664
Terrible day today. Lost 2nd buy in. Have As 10s, get raised by one caller. Flop comes out 10 10 5, no spades but powerful hand nonetheless, caller re-raises to $4.20 on flop, I put him all in, he turns over QQ and rivers the queen. :eek: :sob:

That hand and the one before were v unlucky, get the money in when your way ahead - just the poker gods being evil

Reps AJ

11-06-2007, 07:06 PM

Don't you just love it when people give you their money :)

** Game ID 768576366 starting - 2007-06-11 20:01:31
** Garrison Library [Hold em] (0.15|0.30 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money
- monisia84 sitting in seat 1 with $4.20
- bbabbo sitting in seat 2 with $29.25
- stupot125 sitting in seat 3 with $6.45
- deepster sitting in seat 4 with $30.00
- Reps AJ sitting in seat 5 with $32.75 [Dealer]
- blackrod sitting in seat 6 with $42.09
blackrod posted the small blind - $0.15
monisia84 posted the big blind - $0.30
** Dealing card to Reps AJ: Ace of Diamonds, 4 of Diamonds
bbabbo called - $0.30
stupot125 called - $0.30
Reps AJ called - $0.30
blackrod called - $0.30
monisia84 checked
** Dealing the flop: Jack of Diamonds, 9 of Diamonds, 6 of Clubs
blackrod checked
monisia84 checked
bbabbo bet - $1.50
stupot125 called - $1.50
Reps AJ called - $1.50
blackrod folded
monisia84 folded
** Dealing the turn: Queen of Diamonds
bbabbo bet - $1.20
stupot125 went all-in - $4.65
Reps AJ called - $4.65
bbabbo raised - $17.12
Reps AJ went all-in - $26.30
bbabbo went all-in - $10.33
** Dealing the river: 8 of Hearts
bbabbo shows: Queen of Hearts, Queen of Clubs
Reps AJ shows: Ace of Diamonds, 4 of Diamonds
stupot125 mucks: 8 of Diamonds, 3 of Diamonds
Reps AJ wins $18.96 from the main pot
Reps AJ wins $63.55 from side pot 1
End of game 768576366

Strathclyde Eagle

11-06-2007, 07:26 PM

Tough to put a set down, even on a short-handed table. The thing is he has position to at least see what the river brings, instead of lumping it all in at that point.

Not that it gets rid of you, but I don't know why he's only flat-called pre-flop.

Reps AJ

11-06-2007, 07:37 PM

Originally posted by Strathclyde Eagle
Tough to put a set down, even on a short-handed table. The thing is he has position to at least see what the river brings, instead of lumping it all in at that point.

Not that it gets rid of you, but I don't know why he's only flat-called pre-flop.

Indeed, I'd perhaps have called based on what was in the pot to see if the river paired the board but to push all-in seemed a bit giddy

Reps AJ

11-06-2007, 07:41 PM

What the poker gods give with one hand they take with the other...

** Game ID 768596667 starting - 2007-06-11 20:24:19
** Arrow [Hold em] (0.10|0.20 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money
- SMOKINTOP sitting in seat 1 with $26.67
- BRANCO1 sitting in seat 2 with $16.13
- Reps AJ sitting in seat 3 with $26.26 [Dealer]
- mmario83 sitting in seat 4 with $2.51
- macool sitting in seat 5 with $12.23
- longnick sitting in seat 6 with $22.79
mmario83 posted the small blind - $0.10
macool posted the big blind - $0.20
** Dealing card to Reps AJ: 5 of Clubs, 6 of Clubs
longnick folded
SMOKINTOP called - $0.20
BRANCO1 raised - $0.40
Reps AJ called - $0.40
mmario83 folded
macool called - $0.40
SMOKINTOP called - $0.40
** Dealing the flop: 7 of Diamonds, 8 of Clubs, 4 of Hearts
macool checked
SMOKINTOP bet - $0.42
BRANCO1 called - $0.42
Reps AJ raised - $1.40
macool called - $1.40
SMOKINTOP raised - $4.07
BRANCO1 called - $4.07
Reps AJ went all-in - $24.46
macool folded
SMOKINTOP called - $25.86
BRANCO1 went all-in - $11.66
** Dealing the turn: 8 of Hearts
** Dealing the river: Ace of Clubs
Reps AJ shows: 5 of Clubs, 6 of Clubs
SMOKINTOP shows: 8 of Spades, 7 of Spades
BRANCO1 mucks: Queen of Clubs, Queen of Hearts
SMOKINTOP wins $47.78 from the main pot
SMOKINTOP wins $67.55 from side pot 1
End of game 768596667

How he called my all-in I don't know, been playing reasonably tight on that table. He said he was "always calling" and "it was the right bet" - I'd love him to always call, I was 80% favourite on the flop when the money went in

Reps AJ

11-06-2007, 08:03 PM

And now managed to double up on that table to get it all back in 20 minutes, big swings tonight

saul1664

11-06-2007, 08:13 PM

Originally posted by Reps AJ
That hand and the one before were v unlucky, get the money in when your way ahead - just the poker gods being evil

The first hand is shocking, you are not going to put a set down to be fair, it's one card out on the river which he hits. Second hand a more experienced player might put the QQ down to an all in raise suspecting KK AA or at least the 10 (for trips), though again hard to fold that. Just complete suckouts all day, called 4 x BB with QK, one caller, push all in on the flop when I hit the K, he calls with 29 and hits the flush. Must be the day for the luckboxes to hit.

Reps AJ

11-06-2007, 08:30 PM

Originally posted by Reps AJ
And now managed to double up on that table to get it all back in 20 minutes, big swings tonight

Just about to leave the table and get dealt AA as dealer and end up with a raise, reraise situation with UTG till he's all in and he turns over... KK thank you :lux:

Edit: and the luckboxes didn't hit this time:p

saul1664

11-06-2007, 10:16 PM

Lost 4 buy-ins, but still came out in profit. Placed 2nd in 118 runner tourney for $118, and cashed out $15 in front in cash game when tourney got interesting. Good final table play by me. But went into heads up 2:1 down, called an all in with A8 but he had AK and it was all over. Still alls well that ends well. :p

Gav The Hamster

11-06-2007, 11:37 PM

tilting a bit then this

> oldman_100 posted small blind ($1)
> Jimmmmmy brought $30 to the table
> Jimmmmmy posted big blind ($2)
> Game # 768,816,505 starting.
> Dealing Hole Cards(7c 7h )
> DrPot folded
> -Supafly- folded
> hugheg raised for $4
> oldman_100 went all-in for $59.26
> Jimmmmmy folded
> hugheg called for $56.26
> Dealing the Flop(7s 9d Ad )
> Dealing the turn(7d )
> Dealing the river(As )
> oldman_100 shows Four of a Kind, Sevens
(7s 7d 7c 7h Ad )
> hugheg mucked
> oldman_100 wins $120.52 with Four of a Kind, Sevens

Gav The Hamster

11-06-2007, 11:38 PM

2 hands later

> DrPot posted small blind ($1)
> -Supafly- posted big blind ($2)
> Game # 768,817,093 starting.
> Dealing Hole Cards(Ks Kc )
> hugheg folded
> oldman_100 raised for $6
> Jimmmmmy went all-in for $26
> DrPot, you have 10 seconds to respond
> DrPot folded
> -Supafly- went all-in for $63.15
> oldman_100 called for $59.15
> Dealing the Flop(3s Kh Js )
> Dealing the turn(Jc )
> Dealing the river(4s )
> -Supafly- shows One Pair, Jacks, with kicker card Ace
(Js Jc Ah Kh Qh )
> oldman_100 shows a Full House, Kings full of Jacks
(Kh Ks Kc Js Jc )
> Jimmmmmy mucked
> oldman_100 wins $155.30 with a Full House, Kings full of Jacks

Funk Butter

12-06-2007, 01:08 AM

Managed to finish 414th in the PS Sunday Million, was able to steal bigtime early. People were playing so tight. Got caught a couple of times at the end and had to go out with AJo vs AQs. Oh well, always next Sunday.

Phil Hellmuth has made it to the final table at the $1500 NLHE Event and its down to 7-handed, going for his 11th bracelet.

Shamone

12-06-2007, 01:28 AM

Just come second in $20 tourno. 103 players, $402 from it. On a table with Scowcrofts cousin near the end.

Should have won. Hate losing with a full house.

oz_da II

12-06-2007, 02:52 AM

Originally posted by Gav The Hamster
2 hands later

> DrPot posted small blind ($1)
> -Supafly- posted big blind ($2)
> Game # 768,817,093 starting.
> Dealing Hole Cards(Ks Kc )
> hugheg folded
> oldman_100 raised for $6
> Jimmmmmy went all-in for $26
> DrPot, you have 10 seconds to respond
> DrPot folded
> -Supafly- went all-in for $63.15
> oldman_100 called for $59.15
> Dealing the Flop(3s Kh Js )
> Dealing the turn(Jc )
> Dealing the river(4s )
> -Supafly- shows One Pair, Jacks, with kicker card Ace
(Js Jc Ah Kh Qh )
> oldman_100 shows a Full House, Kings full of Jacks
(Kh Ks Kc Js Jc )
> Jimmmmmy mucked
> oldman_100 wins $155.30 with a Full House, Kings full of Jacks

Supafly = Supastinker

What does he think he's beating? AT? :clown:

Funk Butter

12-06-2007, 03:04 AM

Originally posted by Funk Butter
Managed to finish 414th in the PS Sunday Million, was able to steal bigtime early. People were playing so tight. Got caught a couple of times at the end and had to go out with AJo vs AQs. Oh well, always next Sunday.

Phil Hellmuth has made it to the final table at the $1500 NLHE Event and its down to 7-handed, going for his 11th bracelet.
4 handed now and Hellmuth has $4.5M chips to the other 3 players $3.5M chips total.

oz_da II

12-06-2007, 03:38 AM

Heads up now.

Phil up almost 3 to 1 against some internet kid.

bunghole

12-06-2007, 03:53 AM

Oz_da.

Had some cash in my Betfair account on the weekend, so thought I'd have a crack at their poker section. Went through the downloading process only to get a message at the end which basically said "sorry, playing poker on-line is illegal in your country so you can't play". :(

WTF is going on. Is this the case with ALL on-line poker sites or are BF just idiots? :clown:

oz_da II

12-06-2007, 05:42 AM

oz_da II

12-06-2007, 05:44 AM

Hellmuth takes his 11th and record breaking WSOP bracelet, very impressive.

GeeTee

12-06-2007, 09:20 AM

GeeTee

12-06-2007, 09:21 AM

Originally posted by oz_da II
Hellmuth takes his 11th and record breaking WSOP bracelet, very impressive.

Nice touch seeing Johnny Chan and Doyle presenting the bracelet to him.

oz_da II

12-06-2007, 10:14 AM

Originally posted by bunghole
Oz_da.

Had some cash in my Betfair account on the weekend, so thought I'd have a crack at their poker section. Went through the downloading process only to get a message at the end which basically said "sorry, playing poker on-line is illegal in your country so you can't play". :(

WTF is going on. Is this the case with ALL on-line poker sites or are BF just idiots? :clown:

It is illegal, apparently. Doesn't stop anyone.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/games/poker-is-the-real-deal/2006/07/12/1152637733267.html

More absolute bollocks from the nanny state. Waste of time and money trying to enforce it.

How hypocritical can they get? Only too happy to take shed loads of cash of the morons who sit in gaming rooms on the "programmed to lose" one armed bandits at pubs from open to close but for some reason get on their high horse about online gambling and in particular want to ban a game of skill. Little Johhny and his mates can get ••••ed.

Finbar

12-06-2007, 10:35 AM

Totally agree, the US are the worst in terms of double standards though.

Not surprised Betfair are towing the line though, guess they are more worried keeping the government sweet letting Aussies use the exchange site, which to be honest is more important as there are plenty of (much better) poker sites for them to use.

Funny how I always assumed Betfair was a great company 'on our side' almost, everything I have heard in the last year or so seems to point to them being a ruthless bunch who will always put profits before customers, topped off by their commission increase. Shame really

SamTheOldGoat

12-06-2007, 02:26 PM

BOOM!

PokerStars Game #10397550431: Hold'em No Limit ($3/$6) - 2007/06/12 - 10:22:55 (ET)
Table 'Crommelin' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: Big_King11 ($847.30 in chips)
Seat 3: DontURvrMe ($354 in chips)
Seat 4: IFiNishfish ($677.45 in chips)
Seat 5: @lx747 ($530.10 in chips)
Seat 6: NiceHitFish© ($233.10 in chips)
Seat 7: dosysiete ($165.85 in chips)
Seat 8: futilewar ($646.75 in chips)
Seat 9: PokerJello ($655.25 in chips)
Big_King11: posts small blind $3
DontURvrMe: posts big blind $6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NiceHitFish© [Jd Jc]
IFiNishfish: folds
@lx747: calls $6
NiceHitFish©: raises $18 to $24
dosysiete: calls $24
futilewar: calls $24
PokerJello said, "0"
PokerJello: folds
Big_King11: raises $102 to $126
DontURvrMe: folds
@lx747: folds
NiceHitFish©: raises $107.10 to $233.10 and is all-in
dosysiete: calls $141.85 and is all-in
futilewar: folds
Big_King11: calls $107.10
*** FLOP *** [3c 9c 9h]
*** TURN *** [3c 9c 9h] [6s]
*** RIVER *** [3c 9c 9h 6s] [Js]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Big_King11: shows [Ad Kd] (a pair of Nines)
NiceHitFish©: shows [Jd Jc] (a full house, Jacks full of Nines)
NiceHitFish© collected $134.50 from side pot
dosysiete: mucks hand
NiceHitFish© collected $530.55 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $668.05 Main pot $530.55. Side pot $134.50. | Rake $3
Board [3c 9c 9h 6s Js]
Seat 1: Big_King11 (small blind) showed [Ad Kd] and lost with a pair of Nines
Seat 3: DontURvrMe (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: IFiNishfish folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: @lx747 folded before Flop
Seat 6: NiceHitFish© showed [Jd Jc] and won ($665.05) with a full house, Jacks full of Nines
Seat 7: dosysiete mucked [7c 7d]
Seat 8: futilewar folded before Flop
Seat 9: PokerJello (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

SamTheOldGoat

12-06-2007, 02:30 PM

1fc9

Nice for the best hand to win for once, seems like it's been days

Gav The Hamster

12-06-2007, 03:28 PM

I think JJ is most probably my most feared hand pre flop !

Nice little pot for you there Sam !

Funk Butter

12-06-2007, 03:38 PM

I love how the 77 can just put in $140+ without a thought, thinking that his hand isn't completely dominated by 3 raises.

Finbar

12-06-2007, 03:44 PM

nice one

KevTheOptimist

12-06-2007, 07:32 PM

lol grate hand Sam. I'm the same as Gav though - hate JJ!

WOuld you normally be prepared to go all in Pre flop with JJ?

saul1664

12-06-2007, 11:25 PM

Strange day. One buy in gone with a combination of poor cards and missing every flop for about an hour and a half. Immediately double up with 2nd buy in doubled about almost straight away with quad 10's. My all in to a $3.75 raise on the river was too tempting to call.

Turbo qualifier pushed all in with QQ from early position to find AA (thinking it's a waste of time, as buy in to the qualifier is only $55). Another turbo tourney AQ ran into JQ, with J the only card on the board and I was out there.

$10 sit and go out first hand AK vs QK which made full house.

Cash game almost 4 x buy in up though. General level of play still tends to be poor.

saul1664

12-06-2007, 11:45 PM

Up to 6 x buy in's JK, pushed all into my trip Kings and then called me a lucker. About two hands later. 3 players push all in on my nut flush. Yum!

Gav The Hamster

12-06-2007, 11:53 PM

whats your buy in ? Please dont say $10 !!

saul1664

13-06-2007, 12:07 AM

$25 on 0.25/0.50$ tables, maximum buy in is $25. Up to £304 in one and a half weeks now.

bunghole

13-06-2007, 12:10 AM

Originally posted by oz_da II
It is illegal, apparently. Doesn't stop anyone.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/games/poker-is-the-real-deal/2006/07/12/1152637733267.html

More absolute bollocks from the nanny state. Waste of time and money trying to enforce it.

How hypocritical can they get? Only too happy to take shed loads of cash of the morons who sit in gaming rooms on the "programmed to lose" one armed bandits at pubs from open to close but for some reason get on their high horse about online gambling and in particular want to ban a game of skill. Little Johhny and his mates can get ••••ed.

FFS, how am I going to get involved? :bash:

Bollox to playing with 'play money', what's the point of that? :clown:

Gav The Hamster

13-06-2007, 12:11 AM

why dont you buy in with $50 on those tables with Laddies/Bet 365 etc ? Maximise the profits from your hands

bunghole

13-06-2007, 12:15 AM

What's the best way to get money onto a table WITHOUT a credit card Gav? I don't have one as they're poo on a stick and won't be getting one just to play poker, but can you get involved via Pay Pal/Neteller etc? :confused:

saul1664

13-06-2007, 12:18 AM

Originally posted by Gav The Hamster
why dont you buy in with $50 on those tables with Laddies/Bet 365 etc ? Maximise the profits from your hands

I don't particularly like Ladbrokes or the prima network, the standard on betfair is poor, because you only have $25 to start, the play is much looser, and it is easy to double or treble up within 30 minutes to an hour which then gives you a big advantage. Not going to kill the goose that is laying the golden eggs.

saul1664

13-06-2007, 12:19 AM

Originally posted by bunghole
What's the best way to get money onto a table WITHOUT a credit card Gav? I don't have one as they're poo on a stick and won't be getting one just to play poker, but can you get involved via Pay Pal/Neteller etc? :confused:

PokerStars take just about any card (if you can play with them).

Gav The Hamster

13-06-2007, 12:28 AM

Bung, go with what Saul says. I've only deposited with credit card so i'm not much help but i'm certain there are a few sites that you can use transfer mediums such as Neteller, Firepay etc.. Have a word with Oz Da, surely he can direct you to the sites he plays and the methods he uses ?

bunghole

13-06-2007, 12:31 AM

Originally posted by Gav The Hamster
Bung, go with what Saul says. I've only deposited with credit card so i'm not much help but i'm certain there are a few sites that you can use transfer mediums such as Neteller, Firepay etc.. Have a word with Oz Da, surely he can direct you to the sites he plays and the methods he uses ?

I will Gav (and Saul)

DEFINITELY NOT getting a credit card, tools of the devil imo and my missus has a big enough balance on hers for both of us. :bash:

I make all of my deposits to BF/Centrebet via bank transfer, so if I'm going to get into on-line poker, I'll just have to find a way of doing so without getting a CC. :cool:

saul1664

13-06-2007, 12:35 AM

Most of them take maestro/switch etc. You have got one of those?

bunghole

13-06-2007, 12:39 AM

Originally posted by saul1664
Most of them take maestro/switch etc. You have got one of those?

Not sure Saul

The only ones that I've heard of down here are Pay Pal and Neteller. My missus sometimes buys stuff on Ebay with Pay Pal and I used Neteller once before to subscribe to the Palace Echo.

PoolKing

13-06-2007, 01:02 AM

Originally posted by bunghole
but can you get involved via Pay Pal/Neteller etc? :confused:

As far as I am aware almost every site accepts Neteller but at the moment only Ladbrokes and Betfair offer Paypal deposits and withdrawals.

bunghole

13-06-2007, 01:08 AM

Originally posted by PoolKing
As far as I am aware almost every site accepts Neteller but at the moment only Ladbrokes and Betfair offer Paypal deposits and withdrawals.

Thanks PK. :p

Might give Laddies a try.

Funk Butter

13-06-2007, 04:18 AM

Is Neteller still doing business? After they shut down all the American and Canadian accounts, I figured that they went in the tank for other countries too.

Luckily, they are saying we can take our money out some time in July.

oz_da II

13-06-2007, 05:54 AM

Originally posted by Funk Butter
Is Neteller still doing business? After they shut down all the American and Canadian accounts, I figured that they went in the tank for other countries too.

Luckily, they are saying we can take our money out some time in July.

Still operating and I'd imagine still making shed loads of cash, just not as much as it used to...

saul1664

13-06-2007, 07:57 AM

Originally posted by bunghole
Not sure Saul

The only ones that I've heard of down here are Pay Pal and Neteller. My missus sometimes buys stuff on Ebay with Pay Pal and I used Neteller once before to subscribe to the Palace Echo.

Switch/Maestro is the basic cashless system we have in the UK, you use your cash card to put a deposit in, its not a credit but a debit card and comes straight out of your bank account. You must have something similar?

saul1664

13-06-2007, 12:00 PM

Massively donked out. Flopped the straight, significant raise, so call all in. He has 7 10 and hits 4 hearts on the board, has a 10 flush over my 8. Doh.

SamTheOldGoat

13-06-2007, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by KevTheOptimist
lol grate hand Sam. I'm the same as Gav though - hate JJ!

WOuld you normally be prepared to go all in Pre flop with JJ?

Generally yes, I'll do my stack p.f with JJ in a cash game, more cautious in a tourny but if I donk out to AK which is a hand so highly regarded online, I'll just reload :)

elliott

13-06-2007, 04:03 PM

What do people use?

I've tried 888.com and now paddypower, but I was considering pokerstars.com.

What do people prefer to use?

gjtango

13-06-2007, 04:10 PM

I've only been playing a month or so and use WillHill as that's the one a number of my friends use. If anyone can recommended any that they think are better for some reason or another I may indulge.

Eagle Of Cray

13-06-2007, 04:20 PM

http://forums.cpfc.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=116867

HTH

Strathclyde Eagle

13-06-2007, 07:16 PM

Originally posted by saul1664
I don't particularly like Ladbrokes or the prima network, the standard on betfair is poor, because you only have $25 to start, the play is much looser, and it is easy to double or treble up within 30 minutes to an hour which then gives you a big advantage. Not going to kill the goose that is laying the golden eggs.
I can go off the Prima network as well when my supposedly excellent connection times out my nut straight. :veryangry

Son of Selhurst

13-06-2007, 07:51 PM

Originally posted by Strathclyde Eagle
I can go off the Prima network as well when my supposedly excellent connection times out my nut straight. :veryangry

Shocking....

Son of Selhurst

13-06-2007, 07:55 PM

** Game ID 769893482 starting - 2007-06-13 20:15:46
** Kangchenjunga [Hold 'em] (20.00|40.00 No Limit - STT) Real Money

- Blartman sitting in seat 1 with $980.00
- Pan81 sitting in seat 2 with $990.00 [Dealer]

Pan81 posted the small blind - $10.00
Blartman posted the big blind - $20.00

** Dealing card to Blartman: 5 of Hearts, 3 of Clubs
Pan81 raised - $40.00
Blartman called - $40.00

** Dealing the flop: 5 of Diamonds, 3 of Spades, 8 of Hearts
Blartman checked
Pan81 bet - $80.00
Blartman raised - $160.00
Pan81 raised - $240.00
Blartman went all-in - $800.00
Pan81 went all-in - $720.00
Pan81 shows: King of Spades, 8 of Diamonds

** Dealing the turn: 2 of Diamonds

** Dealing the river: 7 of Diamonds
Blartman wins $2000.00 from the main pot

End of game 769893482

DANCOO

13-06-2007, 07:59 PM

Is that your first win at 20/40 since your last post on this thread?

Son of Selhurst

13-06-2007, 08:01 PM

I think it's my first win ever! I feel so ALIVE !

Gav The Hamster

13-06-2007, 08:06 PM

was it a $5 ?

Son of Selhurst

13-06-2007, 08:13 PM

$20 I think

saul1664

13-06-2007, 10:06 PM

Was on a volatile table, already had all in QQ cracked by AA, when I hit QQ again, flop comes AAQ, I'm in position, two others in they both raise, I push all in, one predictably has the A, but no miracle cards for them and I treble my stack up. :p

Gav The Hamster

13-06-2007, 10:26 PM

wasnt having the best of nights, about $140 down, then this

** Game ID 770061336 starting - 2007-06-13 23:23:46
** Epicurus [Hold 'em] (1.00|2.00 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money

- THE-GOAT sitting in seat 1 with $226.03
- Lucky_ sitting in seat 2 with $198.00
- wallis71 sitting in seat 3 with $382.86
- oldman_100 sitting in seat 4 with $189.30
- Pauly696 sitting in seat 5 with $330.52
- kingdonk sitting in seat 6 with $197.00 [Dealer]

THE-GOAT posted the small blind - $1.00
Lucky_ posted the big blind - $2.00

** Dealing card to oldman_100: 9 of Hearts, 9 of Clubs
wallis71 called - $2.00
oldman_100 called - $2.00
Pauly696 raised - $8.88
kingdonk folded
THE-GOAT folded
Lucky_ folded
wallis71 called - $8.88
oldman_100 called - $8.88

** Dealing the flop: 10 of Hearts, 10 of Clubs, 10 of Spades
wallis71 checked
oldman_100 checked
Pauly696 bet - $29.64
wallis71 folded
oldman_100 raised - $59.28
Pauly696 called - $59.28

** Dealing the turn: 8 of Spades
oldman_100 went all-in - $121.14
Pauly696 called - $121.14

** Dealing the river: 3 of Spades
oldman_100 shows: 9 of Hearts, 9 of Clubs
Pauly696 shows: 8 of Diamonds, 8 of Hearts
oldman_100 wins $387.48 from the main pot

End of game 770061336

time for bed !

Son of Selhurst

13-06-2007, 10:39 PM

Up $242 on PS tonight. Playing $3/$6 FL Holdem

Got to wait 2 days now before I can withdraw. PS really need to change this setup.

KevTheOptimist

14-06-2007, 10:25 AM

Gav, you reckon matey thought he had the nuts when he caught his trip 8's not knowing he was losing to any pair higher than an 8?

Gav The Hamster

14-06-2007, 10:58 AM

No mate, he um'd and arr'd when I went all in and he said that the 8 was the worst card he could have seen but decided to call anyway.

I personally had him on AK or Ax and once he took ages to decide whether to call my all in I knew I was in front.

Volatile table that. If you want to go on a bigger table, you could do worse than find any of those that were on my table as your hands are likely to get paid.

SamTheOldGoat

14-06-2007, 12:27 PM

Been shortstacking 2/4 and 3/6 for a while to good success and to stick in bankroll management. I figue this to be at least 40 full buyings so I should have 24,000 which I don't have and this is why I have realised you REALLY have to mix your game to make good money in cash games. Will stick my poker office graph and some people can help me out as to why I lose money with specific hands ?!

vPokerStars Game #10428884847: Hold'em No Limit ($2/$4) - 2007/06/14 - 08:03:26 (ET)
Table 'Mathilda IV' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: NiceHitFish© ($78 in chips)
Seat 2: peurderien ($223.75 in chips)
Seat 3: gl79 ($867.05 in chips)
Seat 4: wimnl ($386 in chips)
Seat 5: Elohesra ($247.70 in chips)
Seat 6: duckworth1 ($1198.40 in chips)
Seat 7: doksa8923 ($455.55 in chips)
Seat 9: ministerborg ($514.50 in chips)
Elohesra: posts small blind $2
duckworth1: posts big blind $4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NiceHitFish© [3c 4c]
doksa8923: folds
ministerborg: folds
NiceHitFish©: raises $11 to $15
peurderien: folds
gl79: folds
wimnl: folds
Elohesra: calls $13
duckworth1: folds
*** FLOP *** [5c Tc 6c]
Elohesra: checks
NiceHitFish©: checks
*** TURN *** [5c Tc 6c] [Qs]
Elohesra: bets $16
NiceHitFish©: raises $16 to $32
Elohesra: raises $36 to $68
NiceHitFish©: calls $31 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [5c Tc 6c Qs] [Kh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Elohesra: shows [5s 5h] (three of a kind, Fives)
NiceHitFish©: shows [3c 4c] (a flush, Ten high)
NiceHitFish© collected $157 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $160 | Rake $3
Board [5c Tc 6c Qs Kh]
Seat 1: NiceHitFish© showed [3c 4c] and won ($157) with a flush, Ten high
Seat 2: peurderien folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: gl79 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: wimnl (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Elohesra (small blind) showed [5s 5h] and lost with three of a kind, Fives
Seat 6: duckworth1 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: doksa8923 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: ministerborg folded before Flop (didn't bet):p :p :p

SamTheOldGoat

14-06-2007, 12:28 PM

Does anyone else play somewhat creatively and how do you find it? I'm always ready to put them down to a reraise but (generally) in position I'll ping it up and play like KK.

saul1664

14-06-2007, 12:51 PM

Can't play creatively much on my level. Have lost the past five pushes with QQ QQ QQ KK KK. QQ a nemesis at the moment (apart from flopping the full house yesterday). Ultra loose player, went on tilt (didn't know what tilt meant). I get a raise 4 x BB, I double it, he calls, and shortish stack puts me all in. I call, loose player calls all in and shows J5 offsuit. I call with my Queens as have him covered, he has KA and hits both. Doh!

saul1664

14-06-2007, 01:12 PM

Make that 6 times in a row. KK just ran into AA.

Gav The Hamster

14-06-2007, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Does anyone else play somewhat creatively and how do you find it? I'm always ready to put them down to a reraise but (generally) in position I'll ping it up and play like KK.

I would say generally I'm a little more passive than you Sam though it depends on my mood.

I quite like going on to tables where there is a high pot average as you know your going to get some action when you get some big hands. However, I am not afraid to shove but I like to think I'm winning the hand at the time or at least have plenty of outs.

I've found that you dont really need to go looking for action online as everyone is so aggressive. I've become a lot more patient although is 40% flops seen tight or not and made my bigger hands pay?

One other thing I look for in tables is how many shortish stacks there are. The more the merrier for me. Buy in with the full amount and play aggressive pre flop will mean more often than not that one of the stacks will be pot commited on the flop and will call regardless of if they are winning the hand or not.

saul1664

14-06-2007, 01:41 PM

Originally posted by Gav The Hamster
I would say generally I'm a little more passive than you Sam though it depends on my mood.

I quite like going on to tables where there is a high pot average as you know your going to get some action when you get some big hands. However, I am not afraid to shove but I like to think I'm winning the hand at the time or at least have plenty of outs.

I've found that you dont really need to go looking for action online as everyone is so aggressive. I've become a lot more patient although is 40% flops seen tight or not and made my bigger hands pay?

One other thing I look for in tables is how many shortish stacks there are. The more the merrier for me. Buy in with the full amount and play aggressive pre flop will mean more often than not that one of the stacks will be pot commited on the flop and will call regardless of if they are winning the hand or not.

Conversely I think of it the other way. Short stacks are likely to push in on AK AJ and have you covered half the time. Big stacks are often easier to get money from because they tend to call big bets with poor hands.

Gav The Hamster

14-06-2007, 01:48 PM

Originally posted by saul1664
Conversely I think of it the other way. Short stacks are likely to push in on AK AJ and have you covered half the time. Big stacks are often easier to get money from because they tend to call big bets with poor hands.

Indeed they are, but if I have a big stack, I'm not likely to get involved in a pot unless I have a decent hand myself.

saul1664

14-06-2007, 01:55 PM

Not everyone has the ability to do that though. Especially if the stack has been obtained from a loose inexperienced player.

Gav The Hamster

14-06-2007, 02:40 PM

yep true, a big stack does enable you to loosen up a little bit and see more flops and potentially win more hands but also to get into trouble.

I tend to not stray from my normal play if I am up though am liable to tilt at times !

KevTheOptimist

14-06-2007, 03:31 PM

Sam, I try to be creative a fair amount of time in position like you. Unfortunately, it never pays off for me lol. I'll raise suited connectors, small pairs, etc etc in position but the amount of times I've lost the blinds either (I assume) putting me on blind steals and reraising OR them hitting stupid little pairs and calling down to the river.

Arrrgghh

Gav The Hamster

14-06-2007, 03:50 PM

Originally posted by KevTheOptimist
Sam, I try to be creative a fair amount of time in position like you. Unfortunately, it never pays off for me lol. I'll raise suited connectors, small pairs, etc etc in position but the amount of times I've lost the blinds either (I assume) putting me on blind steals and reraising OR them hitting stupid little pairs and calling down to the river.

Arrrgghh

:sob:

I'm sure you'll win it all back tonight.

Son of Selhurst

14-06-2007, 06:14 PM

If anyone plays FL HE and has a Pokerstars account... I'm currently on a $3/$6 table that has 6 players, and 3 noobs. They're giving their money away. One guy has no FOLD button. I need to leave soon cos the missus will be back. I've never seen such poor play at this level.

Check out Nemausa III. Say "hi SOS" if you want my spot

Edit: Sorry, my Playername is Blartman and the noobs are Johnoboss (no FOLD button), Unfadable and coco82

Son of Selhurst

14-06-2007, 06:28 PM

Too late

saul1664

14-06-2007, 10:08 PM

Don't you just hate it when this happens. Just joined the table. Am in early position. Player before me raises 3.5 x BB, so I fold J10 offsuit (not knowing what range of hands he raises with), 2 Jacks on flop, one on turn and then he starts raising the pot! Must have had full house. Doh!

Son of Selhurst

14-06-2007, 11:08 PM

PokerStars Game #10436958473: Hold'em Limit ($5/$10) - 2007/06/14 - 19:04:13 (ET)
Table 'Alsuhail' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: twk2345 ($211 in chips)
Seat 2: Monstore ($201.50 in chips)
Seat 3: ewags1234 ($180 in chips)
Seat 5: Blartman ($389.50 in chips)
Seat 6: lajollan ($277 in chips)
jandels was removed from the table for failing to post
Blartman: posts small blind $2
lajollan: posts big blind $5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Blartman [Ad 2d]
twk2345: calls $5
Monstore: folds
ewags1234: raises $5 to $10
Blartman: raises $5 to $15
lajollan: calls $10
twk2345: calls $10
ewags1234: calls $5
*** FLOP *** [Ac Td 7h]
Blartman: bets $5
lajollan: calls $5
twk2345: calls $5
ewags1234: calls $5
*** TURN *** [Ac Td 7h] [9d]
Blartman: bets $10
lajollan: calls $10
twk2345: calls $10
ewags1234: raises $10 to $20
Blartman: raises $10 to $30
lajollan: calls $20
twk2345: calls $20
ewags1234: calls $10
*** RIVER *** [Ac Td 7h 9d] [As]
Blartman: bets $10
lajollan: folds
twk2345: folds
ewags1234: folds
Blartman collected $198 from pot
Blartman: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $200 | Rake $2
Board [Ac Td 7h 9d As]
Seat 1: twk2345 folded on the River
Seat 2: Monstore folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: ewags1234 (button) folded on the River
Seat 5: Blartman (small blind) collected ($198)
Seat 6: lajollan (big blind) folded on the River

samtheeagle

15-06-2007, 12:05 AM

Was playing two $1/$2 tables get delt AJ suited on both tables at pretty much the same time. I bet pot on both tables and get a caller on both, Rainbow flop on both rag, rag jack. Bet Pot again and get a caller on one table and another guy moves all in on the other. Get beaten on both tables by runner runner flush.

saul1664

15-06-2007, 09:45 AM

I can't win with Queens to save my life. $5 turbo tourney, raise to 400, get a reraise, so push all in, two all in's behind me, up against AJ and 22 (!), first card out is an Ace (what's worse folded 44 two hands earlier and trips came up, and then folded the straight hand after).

Cash game about the same time, again have QQ, one player in front raises to 4 x BB, I call, and flop comes J 7 2, he pushes all in (has about same stack size), he turns over JK, have him dominated with my queens, flop 6, river K.

I'm playing them aggressively but can't seem to win a single pot with them, how do you play yours?

Was left with $1.35 on cash table which I somehow got back up to $36, whilst at the same time finished 3rd in a sit and go from 135 chips after AQ got dominated by AK!

Gav The Hamster

15-06-2007, 10:15 AM

Saul, your just getting unlucky with QQ. You're raising pre flop and raising the flop when your in front. You cant help if people stay in hands and hit the turn or river.

The luck will change and you'll start hitting trips on the flop with an A on the board and clean up.

KevTheOptimist

15-06-2007, 11:38 AM

Queens are evil. Jacks are evil. Kings are not quite so evil and Aces are about level in the evil stakes.

I maintain I've lost more with these hands than I've made purley because I more than likely will be calling re raises with them etc when clearly losing to two pairs etc.

Gav's right though, when you do hit your trips with over cards on the deck you will clean up. Unless they have trips also or have made either a flush, a straight or a higher full boat. Not to put a downer on it.

saul1664

15-06-2007, 11:57 AM

Despite getting stuffed with my last 7 or 8 premium hands, am maintaining my balance so looking for a change of profits once my monsters start connecting.

oz_da II

15-06-2007, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by KevTheOptimist
Queens are evil. Jacks are evil. Kings are not quite so evil and Aces are about level in the evil stakes.

I maintain I've lost more with these hands than I've made purley because I more than likely will be calling re raises with them etc when clearly losing to two pairs etc.

:eek:

What do you win with?

Gav The Hamster

15-06-2007, 03:10 PM

He doesnt - thats the problem !

GeeTee

15-06-2007, 03:30 PM

Anyone played in the Sky Poker Open yet?

Being the skinflint I am, I've earnt enough in their freerolls to buy-in to one of the televised tourneys.

I think I'll wait until Kara Scott or Helen Chamberlin next hosts it - they can ridicule me on national telly!

Reps AJ

16-06-2007, 08:56 PM

Seem to be suffering a run of muppets calling pre-flop raises with shit hands and hitting :bash:

Zola's Chin

16-06-2007, 09:18 PM

Having a :bash: :bash: :bash: day myself. Sat down at 2 MTTs. Over an hour into the 1st dealt KK, raise 3xBB. BB, who is the big stack at the table, re-raises enough to put me all-in. Obviously I call. He flips AK & 2 more bullets hit the board.
Going along very nicely in the next, I get KQos. Just call. Flop comes with a Q but also an A. Bet half the pot to find out where I am. 2 callers. Turn Q. Lovely jubbly. Bet half the pot again, 1 caller. River 10. I bet again, opponent pushes, I fear the worst but it's not too many more chips to call. He's got KJ & has called all the way to the river with 4 outs! Few hands later I raise from under the gun with AQ. One caller. Flop comes with high card Q. Opponent pushes all-in instantly. I call. He's got 9T & has paired his ten. Turn card's another of the f***ers!
Not my lucky day.

Reps AJ

17-06-2007, 11:07 AM

Originally posted by Reps AJ
Seem to be suffering a run of muppets calling pre-flop raises with shit hands and hitting :bash:

On a brighter note, don't you just love it when you've got the nuts on the river and someone puts in a large re-raise :lux: :lux: thank you for your chips :hi:

oz_da II

17-06-2007, 02:31 PM

Still can't believe the standard of play on TitanPoker.

One hour of 3 tabling 25c/50c limit has just netted me $70.
This isn't an uncommon occurance, although $70 an hour is my highest. :moo:

260 hands giving me 140BB.
Cleared out 2 of the three tables ($30 from each) unfortunately.

Here's the sort of stuff we're up against.

------------------------------------------------------------------

Starting a new hand (#577913181)
Texas Holdem Limit $0.25/$0.50 - 2007-06-17 14:28:20 Server
Table Rockport

bleemo posts Small Blind $0.10
coffiieshop posts Big Blind $0.25
Dealing cards
Your cards As Ah [THECORPSE]
sigfred calls $0.25
THECORPSE raises $0.50
hoskito calls $0.50
CalibratedPie folds
bleemo calls $0.40
coffiieshop calls $0.25
sigfred calls $0.25

Dealing Flop 7d 5h Jc
bleemo bets $0.25
coffiieshop calls $0.25
sigfred calls $0.25
THECORPSE raises $0.50
hoskito calls $0.50
bleemo raises $0.50
coffiieshop calls $0.50
sigfred calls $0.50
THECORPSE raises $0.50
hoskito calls $0.50
bleemo calls $0.25
coffiieshop calls $0.25
sigfred calls $0.25

Dealing Turn 7d 5h Jc 4h
bleemo checks
coffiieshop checks
sigfred checks
THECORPSE checks
hoskito bets $0.50
bleemo calls $0.50
coffiieshop folds
sigfred calls $0.50
THECORPSE raises $1
hoskito calls $0.50
bleemo calls $0.50
sigfred calls $0.50

Dealing River 7d 5h Jc 4h 3d
bleemo checks
sigfred checks
THECORPSE checks
hoskito checks

bleemo shows Qs 7c
sigfred shows 8h Tc
hoskito shows 8d 8s
Winner is THECORPSE $10.95

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Anyone play this differently? Was worried some muppet hit his straight so was happy to check it around, would have got two crying calls if I had bet.

Reps AJ

17-06-2007, 03:07 PM

Originally posted by oz_da II

bleemo shows Qs 7c
sigfred shows 8h Tc
hoskito shows 8d 8s

:moo: :moo:

I used to play limit quite a bit but now find it a little frustrating as people will call with anything, but look at that - bottom pair, middle pair and a gutshot straight draw :eek:

oz_da II

17-06-2007, 03:32 PM

Originally posted by Reps AJ
:moo: :moo:

I used to play limit quite a bit but now find it a little frustrating as people will call with anything

That's what everyone says and it can be frustrating when some clown chases a gutshot and hits but that kind of play is where you're making your money. I always say well played and try to "sound" sincere. ;)

Over $400 up since last weekend playing solid tight poker the majority of which has been 25c/50c. I really don't think most if not all players notice what hands I'm playing.

Simple pre-flop strategy:

AA-77, AK - AT, KQs, QJs, KJs - raise

A2-A9s, 56s-JTs - limp

most of everything else goes unless I'm stealing from the button with no pre-flop callers (very rare)

Have cut down on my SB hands and I think that has really improved my BB/100 rate.

Reps AJ

17-06-2007, 03:40 PM

Originally posted by oz_da II
Over $400 up since last weekend playing solid tight poker the majority of which has been 25c/50c. I really don't think most if not all players notice what hands I'm playing.

Do you find yourself continuation betting when you miss the flop?

Just had a great hand where a continuation bet bought me a free card on the turn which gave my opponent trip Qs but gave me the nut straight :)

oz_da II

17-06-2007, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by Reps AJ
Do you find yourself continuation betting when you miss the flop?

Always, I'll occassionally fold to a donk bet if I know for (almost) a fact that they've hit it, I know who bluffs and who doesn't in my circle of "friends". The amount of times I win with ace-high is quite baffling.

Reps AJ

17-06-2007, 03:49 PM

Originally posted by oz_da II
Always, I'll occassionally fold to a donk bet if I know for (almost) a fact that they've hit it, I know who bluffs and who doesn't in my circle of "friends". The amount of times I win with ace-high is quite baffling.

Is this short handed? Might have to try it again, a bit of variety is always good!

oz_da II

17-06-2007, 03:55 PM

Yes, short-handed, usually four tables.

DANCOO

18-06-2007, 08:43 PM

SICK.

Dealing Hole Cards(4c 5h 4h 2d )
LEXUS2 folded
BCFCBEAU raised for 525
yallamam50 folded
dowson folded
Cornish folded
Virgo_8 folded
pokerpolly folded
Carlito_1 called for 375
Dealing the Flop(10c 10s 4s )
Carlito_1 checked
BCFCBEAU bet for 1,125
Carlito_1 went all-in for 4,125
1111poker sits down
BCFCBEAU called for 3,000 (Holding A,A,rag,rag)
Dealing the turn(Ad )
Dealing the river(Jc )
BCFCBEAU wins 9,375 with a Full House, Aces full of Tens
There are no qualifying low hands
Carlito_1 has left the tournament in 40th place

Saw this exact same thing happen earlier on in the tournament, some people just haven't got a ••••••• clue.

Reps AJ

18-06-2007, 10:30 PM

Originally posted by DANCOO
some people just haven't got a ••••••• clue.

On a similar theme, just had someone bet $39 into a $3 pot on the river on a very low blinds table, which to me is just crazy because either you've got the nuts and you're not going to get paid off or you haven't and you risk losing your stack to someone who has. No idea what he had, but someone else did something similar earlier in the evening and then flipped his cards over to show a full house... moron

saul1664

18-06-2007, 10:34 PM

Lost with KK twice. First on a J10Q board when he spiked 8 on the river for a straight (had lots of outs so fair enough), worse when I got done by Q5 for full house on the river when his Q hit. Told me I should have bet more despite 4 x BB pre flop, 6 x BB flop and 9 x BB turn. Not my type of slow play.

Billyd

18-06-2007, 10:45 PM

Originally posted by oz_da II

A2-A9s, 56s-JTs - limp

thats certainly not solid tight poker. or for that matter good poker

Reps AJ

18-06-2007, 10:46 PM

Originally posted by Billyd
thats certainly not solid tight poker. or for that matter good poker

Its limit though, gives you a bit more scope to see a wider range of flops cheaply - if you can get away from them post flop if you don't hit

oz_da II

18-06-2007, 11:15 PM

Originally posted by Billyd
thats certainly not solid tight poker. or for that matter good poker

Originally posted by Reps AJ
Its limit though, gives you a bit more scope to see a wider range of flops cheaply - if you can get away from them post flop if you don't hit

Exactly, I'm always going to have a look for one bet.
Don't hit, dump it, hitting it usually results in a nice sized pot.

bunghole

19-06-2007, 04:36 AM

Originally posted by oz_da II
That's what everyone says and it can be frustrating when some clown chases a gutshot and hits but that kind of play is where you're making your money. I always say well played and try to "sound" sincere. ;)

Over $400 up since last weekend playing solid tight poker the majority of which has been 25c/50c. I really don't think most if not all players notice what hands I'm playing.

Simple pre-flop strategy:

AA-77, AK - AT, KQs, QJs, KJs - raise

A2-A9s, 56s-JTs - limp

most of everything else goes unless I'm stealing from the button with no pre-flop callers (very rare)

Have cut down on my SB hands and I think that has really improved my BB/100 rate.

Cheers for that oz_da, see you at Crown. :o

oz_da II

19-06-2007, 06:24 AM

Originally posted by bunghole
Cheers for that oz_da, see you at Crown. :o

We will, indeed. :p

Live play is completely different from online play (although sticking to that strategy you'll probably go alright).

But there is no need to get tricky online if no one is paying attention.

budgie

20-06-2007, 05:13 PM

Gents, I'm looking for some advise here, was I right to get involved in this hand http://www.pokerhand.org/?1191928
considering Charli was sitting with just $5 in chips, and the top three got paid out? J44YYH had been very aggresive and raising with very little.

Reps AJ

20-06-2007, 10:14 PM

Originally posted by budgie
Gents, I'm looking for some advise here, was I right to get involved in this hand http://www.pokerhand.org/?1191928
considering Charli was sitting with just $5 in chips, and the top three got paid out? J44YYH had been very aggresive and raising with very little.

I have to say I probably wouldn't have got involved, although the blinds are quite large... although its down to cashing v possible 1st. Its about the tournament rather than the cards. I've been in the same situation as the short stack and cashed as a result of two big stacks getting involved when they didn't need to.

So I'd probably check\fold every hand till the short stack is out.. but then someone else will tell you to play it different :)

DANCOO

20-06-2007, 10:30 PM

Originally posted by budgie
Gents, I'm looking for some advise here, was I right to get involved in this hand http://www.pokerhand.org/?1191928
considering Charli was sitting with just $5 in chips, and the top three got paid out? J44YYH had been very aggresive and raising with very little.

With the blinds so large and still being in with a chance of winning, I would probably have just pushed with that hand.
If you only had 2 or 3 x BB, then I may have folded in the hope of going for third place, but I am almost certain I would have pushed in that scenario.
I probably wouldn't have bothered with a raise as your'e pot commited, and any other player who wants to get involved will just put you all in anyway when you take into account your remaining stack, but that's being pedantic as a raise is as good as a shove in that situation IMO.

In summary, IMO, played correctly. :p

oz_da II

20-06-2007, 11:49 PM

saul1664

21-06-2007, 12:51 AM

Been bumbling along, good grinding evening though, up 5 x buy in plus cash 4th in tourney playing at the same time.

Had to make a lay down with AA. Very loose player calls 4 x BB raise. Flop comes down 5 7 8 (2 clubs) and he puts me all in. Consider it but fold. Had previously laid down big raised hands to my re-raising all in, wondering if he was holding KK QQ. Felt he was on tilt at the time but could have raised with anything.

samtheeagle

21-06-2007, 02:07 AM

Flop 4 flushes tonight and loose everyone. 2 guys hit boats on the turn and the other has a higher flush. Jeez, Doubled up on a lucky hit with my QQ v KK so i cant complain.

samtheeagle

21-06-2007, 02:09 AM

Dont think I could have put them down in that situation saul.

oz_da II

21-06-2007, 02:29 AM

Originally posted by samtheeagle
Dont think I could have put them down in that situation saul.

Depends on a few things.

I'd only lay that down if:

a) it was an extremely tight player going all in
b) (if (a) is correct) it's the very early stages of the tournament
c) (if (b) is correct) i'm very confident I can outplay my opponents through the rest of the tournament

otherwise I'm calling.

Zola's Chin

21-06-2007, 07:53 AM

Budgie.
Personally I always set out in 'sit n go's' to get in the money. Once that's been achieved I then up my aggression levels to try & win the tournament. So in your situation I'd have called or minimum raised. When the bigger stack then puts you all in, fold. Wait for the player with 5 chips to snuff it before putting your own stack at risk.

Saul.
At a low-ish stakes table, I'd have called without hesitation.

saul1664

21-06-2007, 10:34 AM

Originally posted by samtheeagle
Dont think I could have put them down in that situation saul.

If I had raised the hand and he'd raised over the top of me, I'd probably have called, but he was first to act. If he had the straight why push me all in so thinking two pair possible trips and he's afraid of the flush, the pot wasn't that big for him to push all in to win on a bluff. He'd already won a big pot off me with Q7 suited calling on a flush draw all the way to the river, so virtually could have had anything. Put them down reluctantly due to the fact that I could probably take good pots off him later when I hit with my hands (which I did). Still a difficult lay down though.

budgie

21-06-2007, 04:46 PM

Gents, thanks for the input, looking back I think the mistake I made was not going all in, I may have held on for 3rd place, but if i hadn't hit any cards later, I'd have probably moaned about not going for it, when I had the cards.

SamTheOldGoat

21-06-2007, 06:31 PM

Misclick while changing screens, oops

PokerStars Game #10547555530: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/06/21 - 14:22:37 (ET)
Table 'Bathseba' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: lordyefc ($356.90 in chips)
Seat 2: Goldlong ($221.65 in chips)
Seat 3: dregs125 ($188.20 in chips)
Seat 4: NiceHitFish© ($75 in chips)
Seat 5: BryanR73 ($168.70 in chips)
Seat 6: VegasClipper ($101.30 in chips)
Seat 7: gazza2929 ($329.10 in chips)
Seat 8: jmoney10587 ($181 in chips)
dregs125: posts small blind $1
NiceHitFish©: posts big blind $2
twoplus2: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NiceHitFish© [4c Tc]
BryanR73: raises $4 to $6
VegasClipper: folds
gazza2929: folds
jmoney10587: folds
lordyefc: calls $6
Goldlong: raises $14 to $20
dregs125: folds
NiceHitFish©: raises $14 to $34
BryanR73: folds
lordyefc: folds
Goldlong: calls $14
*** FLOP *** [Th 8c Td]
NiceHitFish©: checks
Goldlong: bets $41
NiceHitFish©: calls $41 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [Th 8c Td] [7c]
*** RIVER *** [Th 8c Td 7c] [2c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
NiceHitFish©: shows [4c Tc] (a flush, Ten high)
Goldlong: mucks hand
VegasClipper leaves the table
NiceHitFish© collected $160 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $163 | Rake $3
Board [Th 8c Td 7c 2c]
Seat 1: lordyefc folded before Flop
Seat 2: Goldlong (button) mucked [Qd Qc]
Seat 3: dregs125 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: NiceHitFish© (big blind) showed [4c Tc] and won ($160) with a flush, Ten high
Seat 5: BryanR73 folded before Flop
Seat 6: VegasClipper folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: gazza2929 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: jmoney10587 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

grey ghost

22-06-2007, 12:35 AM

Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Misclick while changing screens, oops

PokerStars Game #10547555530: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/06/21 - 14:22:37 (ET)
Table 'Bathseba' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: lordyefc ($356.90 in chips)
Seat 2: Goldlong ($221.65 in chips)
Seat 3: dregs125 ($188.20 in chips)
Seat 4: NiceHitFish© ($75 in chips)
Seat 5: BryanR73 ($168.70 in chips)
Seat 6: VegasClipper ($101.30 in chips)
Seat 7: gazza2929 ($329.10 in chips)
Seat 8: jmoney10587 ($181 in chips)
dregs125: posts small blind $1
NiceHitFish©: posts big blind $2
twoplus2: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NiceHitFish© [4c Tc]
BryanR73: raises $4 to $6
VegasClipper: folds
gazza2929: folds
jmoney10587: folds
lordyefc: calls $6
Goldlong: raises $14 to $20
dregs125: folds
NiceHitFish©: raises $14 to $34
BryanR73: folds
lordyefc: folds
Goldlong: calls $14
*** FLOP *** [Th 8c Td]
NiceHitFish©: checks
Goldlong: bets $41
NiceHitFish©: calls $41 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [Th 8c Td] [7c]
*** RIVER *** [Th 8c Td 7c] [2c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
NiceHitFish©: shows [4c Tc] (a flush, Ten high)
Goldlong: mucks hand
VegasClipper leaves the table
NiceHitFish© collected $160 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $163 | Rake $3
Board [Th 8c Td 7c 2c]
Seat 1: lordyefc folded before Flop
Seat 2: Goldlong (button) mucked [Qd Qc]
Seat 3: dregs125 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: NiceHitFish© (big blind) showed [4c Tc] and won ($160) with a flush, Ten high
Seat 5: BryanR73 folded before Flop
Seat 6: VegasClipper folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: gazza2929 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: jmoney10587 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

i must be shite at this , but what were u doing raising a t 4 suited against a raise and a reraise ?

Gav The Hamster

22-06-2007, 12:44 AM

Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Misclick while changing screens, oops

grey ghost

22-06-2007, 07:11 AM

agh i see , how did i miss that bit

DANCOO

22-06-2007, 08:02 AM

SamTheOldGoat

22-06-2007, 10:10 PM

Cheers Dan, it was a good read in my opinion ;)

Lost AA V KK 3 times at 2/4 and 3/6 today, I swear I've run so bad the last 2 days apart from the above ;)

DANCOO

23-06-2007, 12:08 AM

Third in Hi/Lo rebuy.
Donked off my chips when it got to the final three, I just wasn't really bothered about the outcome. :confused:

saul1664

23-06-2007, 12:52 AM

Up in two cash games, and 2nd in tourney, up $360 in two days. Nice.

calne eagle

23-06-2007, 12:59 AM

Excellent news - does that mean I get my tenner back?

And I still don't understand your jargon fully.

Minor spat in Old Road tonight. Well, the fight flickered on and off for about 10 minutes. Aeroplane blonde slag at bar not helping matters.

SamTheOldGoat

23-06-2007, 10:14 AM

Saul, it seems rare to hear your winning rather than taking beats left right and centre?!?!

Can anyone find the HUGE bluff by Moneymaker over Farha HU at the WSOP? Can't find it on youtube?

SamTheOldGoat

23-06-2007, 10:14 AM

Damn, just remembered poker tube :)

calne eagle

23-06-2007, 10:17 AM

Morning Mr Goat.

Thank you again for your helpfulness re 'Nam Gold Cup day.

saul1664

23-06-2007, 11:03 AM

Originally posted by calne eagle
Excellent news - does that mean I get my tenner back?

And I still don't understand your jargon fully.

Minor spat in Old Road tonight. Well, the fight flickered on and off for about 10 minutes. Aeroplane blonde slag at bar not helping matters.

;) Haven't had a chance to drop it by yet, meet next week for reimbursement(s)? Did you start it.

saul1664

23-06-2007, 11:04 AM

Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Saul, it seems rare to hear your winning rather than taking beats left right and centre?!?!

Can anyone find the HUGE bluff by Moneymaker over Farha HU at the WSOP? Can't find it on youtube?

Read the thread dude. $1K in 3 weeks. Hardly a bad beat in sight. Apart from being done by quads to full house with KKK against 22 with 2 turn 2 river.

calne eagle

23-06-2007, 11:11 AM

Originally posted by saul1664
Did you start it.

Of course not, you twassock :rolleyes:

SamTheOldGoat

23-06-2007, 05:33 PM

Originally posted by calne eagle
Morning Mr Goat.

Thank you again for your helpfulness re 'Nam Gold Cup day.

Afternoon Mr Calne. No probs, it was good to meet you! Did you have a good day? AwayDay was TROUSERED wasn't he! You were OK picking bags up from my house after the races? I was smashed!

SamTheOldGoat

23-06-2007, 05:34 PM

Originally posted by saul1664
Read the thread dude. $1K in 3 weeks. Hardly a bad beat in sight. Apart from being done by quads to full house with KKK against 22 with 2 turn 2 river.

Really glad to hear it Saul! It seems in the past you've had your fair share of sick/bad beats so really happy that your working towards some mega profit :p:)

SamTheOldGoat

23-06-2007, 07:13 PM

I've said it all along, 74 busts big hands=nutzzzzzzzzzz LOL

PokerStars Game #10581711645: Hold'em Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/06/23 - 15:09:24 (ET)
Table 'Priamus IV' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: hansfien ($25.50 in chips)
Seat 2: NiceHitFish© ($207.50 in chips)
Seat 3: The KingKaes ($83 in chips)
Seat 4: alprausch ($44.50 in chips)
Seat 5: OurSilence ($80.50 in chips)
Seat 6: dslobbs ($18 in chips)
OurSilence: posts small blind $0.50
dslobbs: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NiceHitFish© [7c 4c]
hansfien: folds
NiceHitFish©: calls $1
The KingKaes: raises $1 to $2
alprausch: folds
OurSilence: raises $1 to $3
dslobbs: folds
NiceHitFish©: calls $2
The KingKaes: calls $1
*** FLOP *** [Ts 7h Ad]
OurSilence: bets $1
NiceHitFish©: calls $1
The KingKaes: raises $1 to $2
OurSilence: folds
NiceHitFish©: calls $1
*** TURN *** [Ts 7h Ad] [7d]
NiceHitFish©: checks
The KingKaes: bets $2
NiceHitFish©: raises $2 to $4
The KingKaes: calls $2
*** RIVER *** [Ts 7h Ad 7d] [5c]
NiceHitFish©: bets $2
The KingKaes: calls $2
*** SHOW DOWN ***
NiceHitFish©: shows [7c 4c] (three of a kind, Sevens)
The KingKaes: mucks hand
NiceHitFish© collected $26 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $27 | Rake $1
Board [Ts 7h Ad 7d 5c]
Seat 1: hansfien folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: NiceHitFish© showed [7c 4c] and won ($26) with three of a kind, Sevens
Seat 3: The KingKaes mucked [Jh Ac]
Seat 4: alprausch (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: OurSilence (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: dslobbs (big blind) folded before Flop

DANCOO

23-06-2007, 07:21 PM

You giving limit a go now then Sam?

SamTheOldGoat

23-06-2007, 07:30 PM

Thought I'd see what it's like Dan, hasn't been that successfull tbh, probablydropped 70 in an hour, NL for me until I read some limit books :)

saul1664

23-06-2007, 10:31 PM

Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Really glad to hear it Saul! It seems in the past you've had your fair share of sick/bad beats so really happy that your working towards some mega profit :p:)

Having said that just lost 1 buy in when QK, hits QK on the board, two raises call all in, 23 wins it with third spade on river. And AJ vs A8 all in A on board 8 on river. Agggghhhh. First out in sit and go.

DANCOO

23-06-2007, 11:33 PM

Playing $0.25/$0.50 Hi/Lo with two maniacs on the table - they both went all-in pre about 3 times running!

Manage to double up fairly quickly by playing v.tight, then flop trips against one of the maniacs, who outdraws me after I've got all my money in ahead.
The variance in Hi/Lo can give you nightmares. :(

Reps AJ

24-06-2007, 09:52 AM

One of those sessions where nothing hits... lost AQ v QJ, KK v A9, QQ v KJ :bash:

Reps AJ

24-06-2007, 12:44 PM

Stop hitting your ******* rivers, you ******* ***** :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:

Thats better :)

Reps AJ

24-06-2007, 03:56 PM

Just played a SNG with a guy who had the devil's luck, he was hitting absolutely everything - on the river. Just stuck his chips in and hoped for the best :eek: he bust me out when his bottom pair of 2s on the flop made a straight on the river to beat my overpair of JJ

KevTheOptimist

24-06-2007, 06:20 PM

Been freeroll tastic for me today/yesterday.

Qualified for the $50k player points freeroll, came 1st (although really just top 5) out of 84.

Qualified for Money Tree Branch 2 token (worth $25) by finishing top 14 out of 709 in a freeroll.

Finished 2nd in a 100 player point freeroll for $38.50.

Nay bad for f uck all

SamTheOldGoat

25-06-2007, 02:30 PM

Nice one Kev, that's good stuff :)

Made quite a bit of money yesterday including all limit loses and ++ from 6 tabling 50.1. Jeeeeeeeeeez the play is horrific. I've been mainly playing 1/2 and 2/4 and a bit of 3/6 (outside my roll tbh) but with the gf and can't concentrate on large limit games with her yapping in my ear!

SamTheOldGoat

25-06-2007, 02:31 PM

Anyone else play these stakes on 'stars and how do you find them?

SamTheOldGoat

25-06-2007, 02:40 PM

Errr.... just been helping the gf's Mum take down a shed at my gf's house in Cardiff and came in to have lunch, watched my brother play some 2/4, second hand he plays, guess what pays him off here.....

PokerStars Game #10611724453: Hold'em No Limit ($2/$4) - 2007/06/25 - 10:31:42 (ET)
Table 'Dolon' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: /-/4rris ($392 in chips)
Seat 2: Ajven ($393.20 in chips)
Seat 3: von Aswegen ($411.30 in chips)
Seat 4: fumbo420 ($806.55 in chips)
Seat 5: dustinjoels ($400 in chips)
Seat 6: raps56 ($96.70 in chips)
Seat 7: XterraChief ($418.10 in chips)
Seat 8: the_main ($380.15 in chips)
Seat 9: mdcslcmdc ($388 in chips)
/-/4rris: posts small blind $2
Ajven: posts big blind $4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
von Aswegen: folds
fumbo420: folds
dustinjoels: folds
raps56: calls $4
XterraChief: folds
the_main: folds
mdcslcmdc: folds
/-/4rris: calls $2
Ajven: raises $16 to $20
raps56: calls $16
/-/4rris: calls $16
*** FLOP *** [9d 7s Js]
/-/4rris: checks
Ajven: checks
raps56: checks
*** TURN *** [9d 7s Js] [Th]
/-/4rris: checks
Ajven: bets $44
raps56: raises $32.70 to $76.70 and is all-in
/-/4rris: calls $76.70
Ajven: calls $32.70
*** RIVER *** [9d 7s Js Th] [7h]
/-/4rris: bets $84
Ajven: raises $116 to $200
/-/4rris: raises $95.30 to $295.30 and is all-in
Ajven: calls $95.30
*** SHOW DOWN ***
/-/4rris: shows [7c 9c] (a full house, Sevens full of Nines)
Ajven: mucks hand
/-/4rris collected $590.60 from side pot
raps56: mucks hand
/-/4rris collected $287.10 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $880.70 Main pot $287.10. Side pot $590.60. | Rake $3
Board [9d 7s Js Th 7h]
Seat 1: /-/4rris (small blind) showed [7c 9c] and won ($877.70) with a full house, Sevens full of Nines
Seat 2: Ajven (big blind) mucked
Seat 3: von Aswegen folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: fumbo420 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: dustinjoels folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: raps56 mucked
Seat 7: XterraChief folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: the_main folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: mdcslcmdc (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)