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saul1664
26-06-2007, 02:46 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Defo not in Bristol, been in Cardiff all weekend. Will spill later in case anyone else pops up :)

Worst day ever in online poker yesterday, ach well ;(

The guy was a poker professional (about 191th euro rankings). I took him out. :p

KevTheOptimist
26-06-2007, 02:58 PM
You're not supposed hit other players Saul.

Reps AJ
26-06-2007, 07:39 PM
Was all-in twice against the same guy at the end of a SNG, first with A10s v A9 and then with QJs v Q7 and both times he hit his under pair to take the pot, how annoying is that :grrr:

saul1664
27-06-2007, 01:09 AM
$25 HU

Blinds 10/20

Receive A4 and raise to 40, flat call

Flop 10 J Q

Check the flop

Turn comes out K

Get put in for 2500 chips, triple check the board, no flush, no full house, so okay, a bit extreme but I'll split the pot. I call and he turns over 35.

:eek:

SamTheOldGoat
27-06-2007, 10:01 AM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Errr.... just been helping the gf's Mum take down a shed at my gf's house in Cardiff and came in to have lunch, watched my brother play some 2/4, second hand he plays, guess what pays him off here.....

PokerStars Game #10611724453: Hold'em No Limit ($2/$4) - 2007/06/25 - 10:31:42 (ET)
Table 'Dolon' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: /-/4rris ($392 in chips)
Seat 2: Ajven ($393.20 in chips)
Seat 3: von Aswegen ($411.30 in chips)
Seat 4: fumbo420 ($806.55 in chips)
Seat 5: dustinjoels ($400 in chips)
Seat 6: raps56 ($96.70 in chips)
Seat 7: XterraChief ($418.10 in chips)
Seat 8: the_main ($380.15 in chips)
Seat 9: mdcslcmdc ($388 in chips)
/-/4rris: posts small blind $2
Ajven: posts big blind $4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
von Aswegen: folds
fumbo420: folds
dustinjoels: folds
raps56: calls $4
XterraChief: folds
the_main: folds
mdcslcmdc: folds
/-/4rris: calls $2
Ajven: raises $16 to $20
raps56: calls $16
/-/4rris: calls $16
*** FLOP *** [9d 7s Js]
/-/4rris: checks
Ajven: checks
raps56: checks
*** TURN *** [9d 7s Js] [Th]
/-/4rris: checks
Ajven: bets $44
raps56: raises $32.70 to $76.70 and is all-in
/-/4rris: calls $76.70
Ajven: calls $32.70
*** RIVER *** [9d 7s Js Th] [7h]
/-/4rris: bets $84
Ajven: raises $116 to $200
/-/4rris: raises $95.30 to $295.30 and is all-in
Ajven: calls $95.30
*** SHOW DOWN ***
/-/4rris: shows [7c 9c] (a full house, Sevens full of Nines)
Ajven: mucks hand
/-/4rris collected $590.60 from side pot
raps56: mucks hand
/-/4rris collected $287.10 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $880.70 Main pot $287.10. Side pot $590.60. | Rake $3
Board [9d 7s Js Th 7h]
Seat 1: /-/4rris (small blind) showed [7c 9c] and won ($877.70) with a full house, Sevens full of Nines
Seat 2: Ajven (big blind) mucked
Seat 3: von Aswegen folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: fumbo420 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: dustinjoels folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: raps56 mucked
Seat 7: XterraChief folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: the_main folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: mdcslcmdc (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

It wasn't meant to be a trick question although it sounded like it! Reps mucked 88 and Ajven mucked KQ, not sure who got both hands right but some certainly got one right! Leon got a bit lucky on the river :eek:

SamTheOldGoat
27-06-2007, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by KevTheOptimist
Am gonna say 8 Q or Q K.

Sam, I never play when the missus is in the house unless she is tucked up in bed. For one she is incredibly unlucky and for two, I just couldn't concentrate - mainly cos I'm concentrating more on hiding how much money I could be taking her out to dinner with - which I am instead spending on poker, than I do actually playing poker.

That's probably a good idea Kev. I do play when she's asleep and she's not too fond of me playing when she's awake so I'll definitely stop as I can't concentrate fully, although she got a £100 phone bill last month and was moaning so I said set up a Stars account and we'll make the ££ and I'll send it across which she liked: poker +1 point! :D

saul1664
27-06-2007, 10:05 AM
Last 3 times I've pushed with QQ, I've run into KK and lost (fair enough). Get KK and pushed all in, he has QQ and Q hits river. :veryangry

SamTheOldGoat
27-06-2007, 10:06 AM
Originally posted by Strathclyde Eagle
:eek:

Is that a link to some kind of del.icio.us feed (in the bottom right-hand corner) Sam?

What's taht Strath?!?! Not a clue but was on the gf's pc! ? !

SamTheOldGoat
27-06-2007, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by calne eagle
So were we, so were we. No, it went sweet as a nut.

In retrospect, vodka and OJ for breakfast, and whiskey and lemonade on the train wasn't really pacing ourselves.

The major mistake I made was staying awake all the way to Swindon, changing trains successfully - and then falling asleep until Taunton :bash:

Yer, when you fell out of the taxi outside my house I knew alcohol was involved! Same again next year?! :p :D

SamTheOldGoat
27-06-2007, 10:08 AM
Errrr...... Just woken and messing about online.

Cooler? Yes, I really was amazed, first piece of 'luck' in days....

PS if that's a high buy in event I'd maybe flat call reraise but not sure I could get away from it on flop and obviously not turn

PokerStars Game #10642809524: Tournament #53918634, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2007/06/27 - 05:30:32 (ET)
Table '53918634 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: IFoldPktOnes (1350 in chips)
Seat 2: STACCO (2010 in chips)
Seat 3: jokero77 (1005 in chips)
Seat 4: Choketroy (525 in chips)
Seat 5: akacash76 (1200 in chips)
Seat 6: roomboter (2425 in chips)
Seat 7: /-/4rris (2105 in chips)
Seat 8: Blut3ngel (1370 in chips)
Seat 9: foldcheck (1510 in chips)
foldcheck: posts small blind 50
IFoldPktOnes: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to /-/4rris [Ac Kh]
STACCO: raises 100 to 200
jokero77: folds
Choketroy: folds
akacash76: folds
roomboter: raises 200 to 400
/-/4rris: raises 1705 to 2105 and is all-in
Blut3ngel: folds
foldcheck: folds
IFoldPktOnes: folds
STACCO: calls 1810 and is all-in
roomboter: calls 1705
*** FLOP *** [8d 6c Kd]
/-/4rris said, "cooler"
*** TURN *** [8d 6c Kd] [Kc]
*** RIVER *** [8d 6c Kd Kc] [7c]
/-/4rris said, "WOW"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
roomboter: shows [Ad As] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
/-/4rris: shows [Ac Kh] (three of a kind, Kings)
/-/4rris collected 190 from side pot
STACCO: shows [Qs 9s] (a pair of Kings)
/-/4rris collected 6180 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6370 Main pot 6180. Side pot 190. | Rake 0
Board [8d 6c Kd Kc 7c]
Seat 1: IFoldPktOnes (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: STACCO showed [Qs 9s] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 3: jokero77 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Choketroy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: akacash76 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: roomboter showed [Ad As] and lost with two pair, Aces and Kings
Seat 7: /-/4rris showed [Ac Kh] and won (6370) with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 8: Blut3ngel (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: foldcheck (small blind) folded before Flop
PokerStars Game #10642809524: Tournament #53918634, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2007/06/27 - 05:30:32 (ET)
Table '53918634 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: IFoldPktOnes (1350 in chips)
Seat 2: STACCO (2010 in chips)
Seat 3: jokero77 (1005 in chips)
Seat 4: Choketroy (525 in chips)
Seat 5: akacash76 (1200 in chips)
Seat 6: roomboter (2425 in chips)
Seat 7: /-/4rris (2105 in chips)
Seat 8: Blut3ngel (1370 in chips)
Seat 9: foldcheck (1510 in chips)
foldcheck: posts small blind 50
IFoldPktOnes: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to /-/4rris [Ac Kh]
STACCO: raises 100 to 200
jokero77: folds
Choketroy: folds
akacash76: folds
roomboter: raises 200 to 400
/-/4rris: raises 1705 to 2105 and is all-in
Blut3ngel: folds
foldcheck: folds
IFoldPktOnes: folds
STACCO: calls 1810 and is all-in
roomboter: calls 1705
*** FLOP *** [8d 6c Kd]
/-/4rris said, "cooler"
*** TURN *** [8d 6c Kd] [Kc]
*** RIVER *** [8d 6c Kd Kc] [7c]
/-/4rris said, "WOW"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
roomboter: shows [Ad As] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
/-/4rris: shows [Ac Kh] (three of a kind, Kings)
/-/4rris collected 190 from side pot
STACCO: shows [Qs 9s] (a pair of Kings)
/-/4rris collected 6180 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6370 Main pot 6180. Side pot 190. | Rake 0
Board [8d 6c Kd Kc 7c]
Seat 1: IFoldPktOnes (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: STACCO showed [Qs 9s] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 3: jokero77 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Choketroy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: akacash76 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: roomboter showed [Ad As] and lost with two pair, Aces and Kings
Seat 7: /-/4rris showed [Ac Kh] and won (6370) with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 8: Blut3ngel (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: foldcheck (small blind) folded before Flop

Strathclyde Eagle
27-06-2007, 11:44 AM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
What's taht Strath?!?! Not a clue but was on the gf's pc! ? !
Social bookmarking site.

http://del.icio.us

You can look for specific subjects by tag as well, e.g. http://del.icio.us/popular/poker

P.S. Stacco should be ashamed of himself, calling an all-in with Q9suited when not short-stacked.

saul1664
27-06-2007, 11:45 AM
My run of cards are shocking at the moment. In $25 tourney, one place off final table, have 2K, blinds 100/200, have KK, raise to 800, pushed all in, he has 33, 3 on flop. Would have been a nice double up.

Gav The Hamster
27-06-2007, 01:52 PM
STOG - I guess looking back its not surprising he has QK.

And far from being critical of your brothers play as he obviously does a million times better than I do but what is he doing calling $75 on the turn with a board like that. He's literally drawing to like 4 cards and must have known he was behind when the turn was bet and raised before him ? Unless he puts Ajven on AA, KK, QQ and wants to win the side pot ?

Still, no idea why QK is calling after your brother has called the previous all in. With flush and full house possibilities with the river to come I dont understand the call and surely a re raise by Ajven would have been the right play ?

KevTheOptimist
27-06-2007, 03:50 PM
Gav's auditioning for a an Andy Gray type role in a new poker magazine.

Shaft at hat at
Tick a boooooo

Finbar
27-06-2007, 03:54 PM
YA DOONT SAVE THOOOOSE

KevTheOptimist
27-06-2007, 03:57 PM
Wat wissee thinking abooot?

saul1664
28-06-2007, 04:18 PM
This is my worst bad beat ever, think I must be 99.99% to win this hand.

Heads up, late stages. I had already pushed all in on JJJ on board A 8 J only for him to make trip A as he was holding an A when another A hit the turn.

Again I am dominating, have 72, flop comes 722, lucky in itself, flop the full house, he pushes all in. I think nice, have won this. Call. Turn 7, giving the higher full house, river 8, he turns over 78 for higher full house. Never ever seen that before, crippling me with 500 chips.

Came back to win though. :eek:

Zola's Chin
28-06-2007, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by saul1664
This is my worst bad beat ever, think I must be 99.99% to win this hand.

Heads up, late stages. I had already pushed all in on JJJ on board A 8 J only for him to make trip A as he was holding an A when another A hit the turn.

That gives him 3 of a kind, Aces & you a full house Jacks full of Aces! :confused:

Strathclyde Eagle
28-06-2007, 09:44 PM
Was thinking that myself. :confused:

saul1664
28-06-2007, 09:46 PM
Originally posted by Zola's Chin
That gives him 3 of a kind, Aces & you a full house Jacks full of Aces! :confused:

No I meant I hit trip Jacks on the flop, with an Ace on the board, had JJ, flop J A 8, so when the A hit on the turn he had trip aces. Makes not a lot of sense reading back to be fair.

calne eagle
28-06-2007, 09:47 PM
My hovercraft is full of eels.

se1eagle
28-06-2007, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by saul1664
No I meant I hit trip Jacks on the flop, with an Ace on the board, had JJ, flop J A 8, so when the A hit on the turn he had trip aces.

But you had full house jacks full of aces on the turn? I still don't get it.

KevTheOptimist
28-06-2007, 10:15 PM
You're not making sense Saul.

DANCOO
28-06-2007, 10:16 PM
Yeah, go to bed Saul, you're gonna lose the lot. :D

PoolKing
28-06-2007, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by saul1664
No I meant I hit trip Jacks on the flop, with an Ace on the board, had JJ, flop J A 8, so when the A hit on the turn he had trip aces. Makes not a lot of sense reading back to be fair.

So on the flop you made JJJ whilst he had AA. The turn was an A to make him AAA and you JJJAA so you are still ahead, so did he make a FH on the river?

saul1664
28-06-2007, 10:55 PM
No that makes no sense either, must have had AA then, know I lost trip Jacks to trip Aces.

saul1664
28-06-2007, 10:58 PM
Cash game again,

Have Jd Kd, flop comes Ad 10d 6h

flop 2s

Raised a small amount on the turn, call

river Qd for Royal

Only one other person left in the pot and he checks. I raise and he folds, only a $9 pot and I didn't get to show. My 3rd one.

DANCOO
28-06-2007, 11:12 PM
Just read a good quote on Laddies:

No matter how bad things are today, don't look forward to tomorrow cos its gonna be even worse.


:D

SamTheOldGoat
30-06-2007, 05:10 PM
^^^^ :D. Was confused wtih yours too Saul!

SamTheOldGoat
30-06-2007, 05:16 PM
PS, Alex (POOLKING), Really enjoying your blog mate :)

saul1664
30-06-2007, 11:40 PM
Wish people would keep stop hitting their gutshot straight draws every time I push in on two pair. :rolleyes:

SamTheOldGoat
01-07-2007, 12:35 PM
Strath, not a clue and nor does the gf (apparently!) Could it be a virus?!

Strathclyde Eagle
01-07-2007, 01:56 PM
Dunno. If you hover over it what is displayed?

SamTheOldGoat
01-07-2007, 03:47 PM
I'll have a look when next in Cardiff mate :)

Just messing about while watching cricket playing cash and trying to get my sharkscope to +. My housemate who plays for a living and I discussed the first hand. If it was any higher I would have flat called pre although I can see KK reshoving and in these games, it would have been a tough decision but after AA called I 'THINK' I would have passed?

The second hand was a bloody good read, something I've got a lot better at and the way he played it, I was positive he had 2 overs and the river shove is a pure scare bet after flat calling turn bet after his check......

PokerStars Game #10711853543: Tournament #54282390, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2007/07/01 - 11:28:40 (ET)
Table '54282390 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: airlines444 (1815 in chips)
Seat 2: vaderkvarn (1460 in chips)
Seat 3: weslawnguy (785 in chips)
Seat 5: SPS_Crew (3405 in chips)
Seat 6: Don Funghi (1315 in chips)
Seat 7: NiceHitFish© (1410 in chips)
Seat 8: withywindle (1785 in chips)
Seat 9: Illuminati13 (1525 in chips)
withywindle: posts small blind 25
Illuminati13: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NiceHitFish© [Qs Qd]
airlines444: folds
vaderkvarn: folds
weslawnguy: raises 100 to 150
SPS_Crew: raises 150 to 300
Don Funghi: folds
NiceHitFish©: raises 1110 to 1410 and is all-in
withywindle: raises 375 to 1785 and is all-in
Illuminati13: folds
weslawnguy: calls 635 and is all-in
SPS_Crew: calls 1485
*** FLOP *** [9h 4s Qc]
*** TURN *** [9h 4s Qc] [Ts]
*** RIVER *** [9h 4s Qc Ts] [4h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
withywindle: shows [Kh Ks] (two pair, Kings and Fours)
SPS_Crew: shows [Ah As] (two pair, Aces and Fours)
SPS_Crew collected 750 from side pot-2
NiceHitFish©: shows [Qs Qd] (a full house, Queens full of Fours)
NiceHitFish© collected 1875 from side pot-1
weslawnguy: shows [Jc Kc] (a straight, Nine to King)
NiceHitFish© collected 3190 from main pot
NiceHitFish© said, "WOW"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5815 Main pot 3190. Side pot-1 1875. Side pot-2 750. | Rake 0
Board [9h 4s Qc Ts 4h]
Seat 1: airlines444 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: vaderkvarn folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: weslawnguy showed [Jc Kc] and lost with a straight, Nine to King
Seat 5: SPS_Crew showed [Ah As] and won (750) with two pair, Aces and Fours
Seat 6: Don Funghi folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: NiceHitFish© (button) showed [Qs Qd] and won (5065) with a full house, Queens full of Fours
Seat 8: withywindle (small blind) showed [Kh Ks] and lost with two pair, Kings and Fours
Seat 9: Illuminati13 (big blind) folded before Flop


PokerStars Game #10711864651: Tournament #54282390, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2007/07/01 - 11:29:34 (ET)
Table '54282390 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: airlines444 (1815 in chips)
Seat 2: vaderkvarn (1460 in chips)
Seat 5: SPS_Crew (2370 in chips)
Seat 6: Don Funghi (1315 in chips)
Seat 7: NiceHitFish© (5065 in chips)
Seat 9: Illuminati13 (1475 in chips)
airlines444: posts small blind 25
vaderkvarn: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NiceHitFish© [4c 4d]
SPS_Crew: raises 100 to 150
Don Funghi: folds
NiceHitFish©: calls 150
Illuminati13: folds
airlines444: folds
vaderkvarn: folds
*** FLOP *** [Tc 5d 7d]
SPS_Crew: bets 250
NiceHitFish©: calls 250
*** TURN *** [Tc 5d 7d] [3h]
SPS_Crew: checks
NiceHitFish©: bets 450
SPS_Crew: calls 450
*** RIVER *** [Tc 5d 7d 3h] [9c]
SPS_Crew: bets 1520 and is all-in
NiceHitFish©: calls 1520
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SPS_Crew: shows [As Jc] (high card Ace)
NiceHitFish©: shows [4c 4d] (a pair of Fours)
NiceHitFish© collected 4815 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4815 | Rake 0
Board [Tc 5d 7d 3h 9c]
Seat 1: airlines444 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: vaderkvarn (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: SPS_Crew showed [As Jc] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 6: Don Funghi folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: NiceHitFish© showed [4c 4d] and won (4815) with a pair of Fours
Seat 9: Illuminati13 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

SamTheOldGoat
01-07-2007, 03:51 PM
Just made another good call in same comp HU, thought he would represent the flush...

PokerStars Game #10712092203: Tournament #54282390, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2007/07/01 - 11:47:56 (ET)
Table '54282390 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: airlines444 (7925 in chips)
Seat 7: NiceHitFish© (5575 in chips)
airlines444: posts small blind 100
NiceHitFish©: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NiceHitFish© [6d 9d]
airlines444: calls 100
NiceHitFish©: checks
*** FLOP *** [3c Jc 3s]
NiceHitFish©: checks
airlines444: checks
*** TURN *** [3c Jc 3s] [9c]
NiceHitFish©: bets 400
airlines444: raises 400 to 800
NiceHitFish©: calls 400
*** RIVER *** [3c Jc 3s 9c] [Ts]
NiceHitFish©: checks
airlines444: bets 1400
NiceHitFish©: calls 1400
*** SHOW DOWN ***
airlines444: shows [7s 4c] (a pair of Threes)
NiceHitFish©: shows [6d 9d] (two pair, Nines and Threes)
NiceHitFish© collected 4800 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4800 | Rake 0
Board [3c Jc 3s 9c Ts]
Seat 1: airlines444 (button) (small blind) showed [7s 4c] and lost with a pair of Threes
Seat 7: NiceHitFish© (big blind) showed [6d 9d] and won (4800) with two pair, Nines and Threes

SamTheOldGoat
01-07-2007, 03:53 PM
And lose HU :(

Strathclyde Eagle
01-07-2007, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
I'll have a look when next in Cardiff mate :)
Okay, feel free to PM if need be. :p

Shame about losing that heads-up after making those nice calls.

SamTheOldGoat
01-07-2007, 09:40 PM
Thanks mate, will be in a week or so :)

Yer, standard at the moment, running REALLY bad, ach well, taking a week off, going to study Harrington again and Caros book as well, how are you doing mate?

KevTheOptimist
01-07-2007, 09:49 PM
Poolking - How many tournies you won lately? Are you +ve overall do you think?

PoolKing
01-07-2007, 10:11 PM
Originally posted by KevTheOptimist
Poolking - How many tournies you won lately? Are you +ve overall do you think?

I have not won a tournament for ages (my last was 26k last august!), after that I didn't play many tournaments and think I lost my way and sort of forgot how to play and I just can't get any kind of tournament form at the moment. This month I have played around 20 MTTs and not placed in the money in any of them, in fact my highest postion has been around 75th place:veryangry

Overall I am +ve, with tournaments a lot of patience is involved both in playing the tournament and in getting big wins, I tend to go on long runs of losses and small wins to keep me going then hit a big payout to put me in profit.

The period I am in now is certainly my worst run ever though in tournament play, I just can't get anything going!

Strathclyde Eagle
01-07-2007, 10:19 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Thanks mate, will be in a week or so :)

Yer, standard at the moment, running REALLY bad, ach well, taking a week off, going to study Harrington again and Caros book as well, how are you doing mate?
Haven't played in a while, too much on the go at the moment. :(

saul1664
01-07-2007, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by PoolKing
I have not won a tournament for ages (my last was 26k last august!), after that I didn't play many tournaments and think I lost my way and sort of forgot how to play and I just can't get any kind of tournament form at the moment. This month I have played around 20 MTTs and not placed in the money in any of them, in fact my highest postion has been around 75th place:veryangry

Overall I am +ve, with tournaments a lot of patience is involved both in playing the tournament and in getting big wins, I tend to go on long runs of losses and small wins to keep me going then hit a big payout to put me in profit.

The period I am in now is certainly my worst run ever though in tournament play, I just can't get anything going!

I can't do much either. 1st early in turbo, blinds 100/200, have 25 in BB, get two pair on flop, push and get a call, he has the 3 with A kicker, gets A on river. Then make a bad call with A9 suited running into AQ to leave me pretty much crippled. Then finally push with 10 10 when short stacked, one caller, he has 22, 2 on river. Went out previous tournament one place before the money. I had KK, he had 33, 3 on river.

se1eagle
02-07-2007, 12:56 AM
Interesting hand - would appreciate thoughts on how you would play the turn. I'm likely beaten but have sooo many outs - would you stack off here?

Villain is pretty fishy (47/5.8/3.5) and has only 62 BB in his stack.

A Queen gives me quads
Any J, 9 or T gives me a full house
Ks or 8s gives me straight flush - any other spade gives me a decent flush, any other 8 or K gives me a straight

FullTiltPoker Game #2825081349: Table Westlund (6 max) - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:08:59 ET - 2007/07/01
Seat 1: abe_WW ($27.10)
Seat 2: kiikii111 ($24.30)
Seat 3: Coney Cat ($38.25)
Seat 4: Hero ($27.05)
Seat 5: maltasec ($22.70)
Seat 6: Villain ($15.60)
Coney Cat posts the small blind of $0.10
Hero posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Ts Qc]
maltasec folds
Villain calls $0.25
abe_WW folds
kiikii111 calls $0.25
Coney Cat folds
Hero checks
*** FLOP *** [Js Qd 9s]
Hero bets $0.85
Villain raises to $1.70
kiikii111 folds
Hero calls $0.85
*** TURN *** [Js Qd 9s] [Qs]

saul1664
02-07-2007, 02:07 AM
Doesn't appear to be too much in the pot, so a check or minimum call doesn't seem worth it. I would raise 2/3rds size of pot, to build the pot size up so if you hit your outs, you can put a decent sized bet in and still probably get a call. If you limp, and then hit, it's going to be obvious when you bet that you have the best hand and will induce folds.

However, if you have been raised significantly on the turn, you have a tougher decision to make. If you have about 20 outs which you describe, you are even money to hit, so if the pot is $3 and you are raised $3, it's still a value call.

samtheeagle
02-07-2007, 03:07 AM
Qualified for the 100k guarenteed on bodog poker today. 800 entrants and was chip leader with 100 left only to flop the nuts flush and loose to a full house and then have my pocket kings busted by aces. Massive blinds, checked big blind with 45, floped the straight, pushed, lost to runner runner flush in 55th place. Gutted.

KevTheOptimist
02-07-2007, 07:54 AM
I got my $50k freeroll tonight on laddies. Last time I looked there were about 600 runners. I'll remember you lot when I'm off cruising round the Bahamas

Finbar
02-07-2007, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by DANCOO
Just read a good quote on Laddies:

No matter how bad things are today, don't look forward to tomorrow cos its gonna be even worse.


:D

I read that in my book on the train this morning! Can't remember which poker player it was creddited to though

SamTheOldGoat
03-07-2007, 12:23 AM
FT of Stars $55R

RichieG
03-07-2007, 08:05 AM
Well? Did you take it down Sam?

Eagle Of Cray
03-07-2007, 11:06 AM
Originally posted by KevTheOptimist
I got my $50k freeroll tonight on laddies. Last time I looked there were about 600 runners. I'll remember you lot when I'm off cruising round the Bahamas

How did you get on in this? What time do you sail?

se1eagle
03-07-2007, 11:15 AM
He came 9th for a nice $784 - well done Sam!

SamTheOldGoat
03-07-2007, 01:01 PM
Run so bad for a living?

oz_da II
03-07-2007, 01:59 PM
Originally posted by oz_da II
Friend and I stumbled upon a poker league in town tonight.
Sign up and get a card, a few token "goodies" etc. Free entry.
Finished 3rd out of 42 starters, of course top two were the only ones to get actual prizes.

Finished 3rd again :clown: 47 runners. Got the exact same prize as last week. :hmph:

Three left, I'm in big blind 86o. Hit top pair on the flop, check raise all in to a bluffer. He slow played JJ... :moo:

SamTheOldGoat
03-07-2007, 05:07 PM
9th last night out of 200 in 55 rebuy on Stars for about 800, just moved over to Stan James as part of Prima as I was fed up with paying way too much rake each month, Suppose I'll be playing some of you guys on ladbrokes as I think they are on the same network? Username is ShipItAllPlzFish and just won $50 FO for $800, makes up for a horrible run last night so happy :)


http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v16/mymarktwogolf/?action=view&current=poker1win.jpg

PoolKing
03-07-2007, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
moved over to Stan James as part of Prima as I was fed up with paying way too much rake each month, Suppose I'll be playing some of you guys on ladbrokes as I think they are on the same network? Username is ShipItAllPlzFish

Ladbrokes uses the same software as Prima but is not part of the network. I play on Prima as Poolio so I look forward to encountering you:p

SamTheOldGoat
03-07-2007, 05:16 PM
Cool Alex, you playing at the mo? What stakes at the mo as well?

PoolKing
03-07-2007, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Cool Alex, you playing at the mo? What stakes at the mo as well?

Only playing 0.5/1 at the moment and some lower turbos!

Also, are you going to be playing at Prima regularly? If so, I could put you down for a 30% rakeback deal if you haven't got a deal already...

SamTheOldGoat
03-07-2007, 05:35 PM
Managed to pick up a 35% rakeback deal off my housemate who is a pro, thanks for the offer anyway chap. I'll be playing lots, and apparently resizeable tables are only weeks away. I'll probably be playing only .5/1 and 1/2 for a while as it appears these are SOFT and MTT's, no SNG'S and my brother who has signed up today will be playing 1/2 2/4, MTT's and $50-$200 sngs. I'll PM you his username as he may not want others knowing. Hope to see you at the tables soon dude

KevTheOptimist
03-07-2007, 09:04 PM
Originally posted by Eagle Of Cray
How did you get on in this? What time do you sail?

Had a good enough start, doubled up early doors with AA but after that I couldn't get any decent cards and everytime I stuck me hands in the cookie jar I got bitten, so ended being hyoer tight waiting for decent cards and ended out all in with A 7 v AA in 144th/600ish.

I couldn't hang on for 100th so made my move.

I'm gonna dig a hand history out where I folded QQ. Although the hand was won by a bluff I still think I was beaten by the guy that ended up folding to the bluff - what do you think? Would you bethinking you were beat as I did?

Hand history to follow....

KevTheOptimist
03-07-2007, 09:09 PM
Ridiculously weak play in hindsight lol. I am truly terrible in situations like this......


** Game ID 782596790 starting - 2007-07-11 22:06:34
** $50,000 Player Point Freeroll[1352418]:Table 59 [Multi Table Hold 'em] (300.00|600.00 No Limit - MTT) Real Money

- KanAbyss sitting in seat 1 with $8017.29
- 4kopper18 sitting in seat 2 with $1797.63
- emma2 sitting in seat 3 with $215.00
- MercBenz sitting in seat 4 with $23969.16
- mcescher sitting in seat 5 with $3632.94
- ifold sitting in seat 6 with $10075.99
- deanvegas sitting in seat 7 with $4866.40 [Dealer]
- rush86 sitting in seat 8 with $6415.00
- CUPPATOAST sitting in seat 9 with $5006.98
- aceseddy sitting in seat 10 with $6144.35

rush86 posted the small blind - $150.00
CUPPATOAST posted the big blind - $300.00

** Dealing card to KanAbyss: Queen of Diamonds, Queen of Spades
aceseddy raised - $600.00
KanAbyss called - $600.00
4kopper18 folded
emma2 folded
MercBenz folded
mcescher folded
ifold folded
deanvegas called - $600.00
rush86 folded
CUPPATOAST called - $600.00

** Dealing the flop: 4 of Clubs, Jack of Spades, Ace of Hearts
CUPPATOAST checked
aceseddy checked
KanAbyss checked
deanvegas checked

** Dealing the turn: Jack of Clubs
CUPPATOAST checked
aceseddy bet - $1327.60
KanAbyss folded
deanvegas folded
CUPPATOAST called - $1327.60

** Dealing the river: 2 of Spades
CUPPATOAST checked
aceseddy went all-in - $4216.75
CUPPATOAST folded
aceseddy shows: 6 of Diamonds, 7 of Diamonds
aceseddy wins $9421.95 from the main pot

KevTheOptimist
03-07-2007, 09:10 PM
P.s. I think CUPPATOAST had a weak Ace.

Eagle Of Cray
03-07-2007, 10:38 PM
Originally posted by KevTheOptimist
Would you bethinking you were beat as I did?

Yes, with the cards that had come into play together with the betting you certainly couldn't have been confident it you had gone all in.

oz_da II
03-07-2007, 11:20 PM
Originally posted by KevTheOptimist
Ridiculously weak play in hindsight lol. I am truly terrible in situations like this......


** Game ID 782596790 starting - 2007-07-11 22:06:34
** $50,000 Player Point Freeroll[1352418]:Table 59 [Multi Table Hold 'em] (300.00|600.00 No Limit - MTT) Real Money

- KanAbyss sitting in seat 1 with $8017.29
- 4kopper18 sitting in seat 2 with $1797.63
- emma2 sitting in seat 3 with $215.00
- MercBenz sitting in seat 4 with $23969.16
- mcescher sitting in seat 5 with $3632.94
- ifold sitting in seat 6 with $10075.99
- deanvegas sitting in seat 7 with $4866.40 [Dealer]
- rush86 sitting in seat 8 with $6415.00
- CUPPATOAST sitting in seat 9 with $5006.98
- aceseddy sitting in seat 10 with $6144.35

rush86 posted the small blind - $150.00
CUPPATOAST posted the big blind - $300.00

** Dealing card to KanAbyss: Queen of Diamonds, Queen of Spades
aceseddy raised - $600.00
KanAbyss called - $600.00
4kopper18 folded
emma2 folded
MercBenz folded
mcescher folded
ifold folded
deanvegas called - $600.00
rush86 folded
CUPPATOAST called - $600.00


Why not reraise?

PoolKing
04-07-2007, 01:33 AM
Originally posted by PoolKing
This month I have played around 20 MTTs and not placed in the money in any of them, in fact my highest postion has been around 75th place:veryangry


I am finally on a final table again, currently playing Prima's $15k Guarantee.

$4810 to the winner, I am currently 8th out of the 10 so it will be an uphill battle for me to win it.

SamTheOldGoat
04-07-2007, 01:39 AM
GL chap, my brother was playing that too I think just now, either $20Rebuy or $60 FO or $100 FO>?!?!

All the best, Im coming to rail :)

SamTheOldGoat
04-07-2007, 01:40 AM
Railing now and on brothers account so that's why the username is 'strange' ;)

SamTheOldGoat
04-07-2007, 01:41 AM
Into 7th....

SamTheOldGoat
04-07-2007, 01:42 AM
6th....

PoolKing
04-07-2007, 01:42 AM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Railing now and on brothers account so that's why the username is 'strange' ;)

I wondered who that was wishing me good luck! I can't type anything there as my chat is banned!

SamTheOldGoat
04-07-2007, 01:44 AM
Yup, brother came 133rd, I was sat next to him in the rebuy stage and people were donating left right and centre! MEGA value tournie!

SamTheOldGoat
04-07-2007, 01:45 AM
NP, Thought you'd wonder about the username. Leon uses it as he thinks it makes peope tilt against him= +ev ;)

SamTheOldGoat
04-07-2007, 01:46 AM
PS, Why a chat ban>

PoolKing
04-07-2007, 01:46 AM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Yup, brother came 133rd, I was sat next to him in the rebuy stage and people were donating left right and centre! MEGA value tournie!

Yeah, it is a good one, the $40k $25 rebuy at 8pm is a nice one too.

SamTheOldGoat
04-07-2007, 01:47 AM
and how much are you in for?

PoolKing
04-07-2007, 01:48 AM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
PS, Why a chat ban>

I used to have a temper and swear a lot if I got a bad beat. I am over all that now but don't see the need to get it back really...

PoolKing
04-07-2007, 01:49 AM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
and how much are you in for?

Only the initial buy-in of $22 for this one.

SamTheOldGoat
04-07-2007, 01:49 AM
Apart from talk to me ;)

SamTheOldGoat
04-07-2007, 01:50 AM
Gordon and Snow are really going for it with each other!

PoolKing
04-07-2007, 01:51 AM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Gordon and Snow are really going for it with each other!

Snow has seemed a little weak, limps in a lot then folds to bets. Gordon I really want to take out, he is a serial raiser and gets attached to hands easily.

PoolKing
04-07-2007, 01:52 AM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Apart from talk to me ;)

Thinking about it, I may ask for it back soon as I have learnt to control my temper:p

SamTheOldGoat
04-07-2007, 01:57 AM
PUSH/FOLD now....

SamTheOldGoat
04-07-2007, 01:59 AM
Definitely ask for it back Alex, see how you cope. Know what you mean about both players Alex. WOW, SNOW IS BADDDDDDDDDD, RE-SHOVE dead pot with AK! WTF>!

PoolKing
04-07-2007, 02:00 AM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
PUSH/FOLD now....

Folded 33 there in the bb in the AA hand

SamTheOldGoat
04-07-2007, 02:01 AM
Bleugh, didn't want to see that double up by Trackers

SamTheOldGoat
04-07-2007, 02:01 AM
Good Fold

PoolKing
04-07-2007, 02:01 AM
need some luck now

SamTheOldGoat
04-07-2007, 02:03 AM
Well done mate, $865 is a great score off 20 invested. Do you play the ones in the afternoon, I'll play them all tomorrow so hopefully see you at the tables, shame I couldn't watch more of your play :)

PoolKing
04-07-2007, 02:03 AM
Thanks for the railing....felt I had to go with that A7, was 50/50 really so I had a decent chance

SamTheOldGoat
04-07-2007, 02:05 AM
Always, your NEVER passing considering 1/4 or more of your stack was invested in the BB, just got unlucky and you'd take that 50/50 all day long in that situation I'm sure! :)

PoolKing
04-07-2007, 02:05 AM
No I don't do any afternoon ones, I only tend to play the ones with a guaranteed prize fund like the $40k and $15k of an evening.

By the way on wednesdays they increase the guaranteed prize funds by $5k I think.

PoolKing
04-07-2007, 02:07 AM
By the way, who's your pick to win it?

I would go for beinn03 or Capone. I wouldn't like to see snowsii win really as he seems quite weak...

SamTheOldGoat
04-07-2007, 02:08 AM
Thanks for the heads up, only the first day on it today and managed to score a FO win as mentioned previously, well me and my brother so a good start. Housemate plays on there as Africano7781 if you have ever played against him. Has had mega swings and has gone from .5/1 up to 25/50 and back down to 2/4 now. He won 45k in a week and lost 42 in 2 days!

SamTheOldGoat
04-07-2007, 02:08 AM
I've logged of Stans now, but I think my ££££ would be on beinn03, played solid and didn't make rash calls/moves like the others! Snow was frickin' shite from what I saw!

SamTheOldGoat
04-07-2007, 02:09 AM
Please let me know who ends up winning. Beinn for top 3 for sure and he was nearly out before back to back double ups!

PoolKing
04-07-2007, 02:11 AM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Thanks for the heads up, only the first day on it today and managed to score a FO win as mentioned previously, well me and my brother so a good start.

Nice one, I think you'll make a lot of money on Prima, there is a good mix of players and an increasing number of french and italian players who tend to be very poor. The tournaments are quite good on there too.

PoolKing
04-07-2007, 02:15 AM
Snowsii out as predicted, Capone is a massive leader.....

Just as I am typing Beinn is out, it is Capone vs. Gordon

I would bet my house on Capone winning.

SamTheOldGoat
04-07-2007, 02:15 AM
Seriously Alex, the plays that I have seen not only on the 1/2 tables but ALL tables including $50 FO'S and $100 SNG's has been truely AWFUL All 3 of us living together who are playing cards all commented on the standard compared to PokerStars. Africano came 3rd in another MTT earlier as we all play on laptops in same room and the fact that afternoon MTTs have 200 max runners makes them much more appealing to play as they are often over in 2hrs unlike Stars when your looking at 5+++. I have noticed a LOT are Scandinavians and they really are living up to their LAG play, do you agree?!

SamTheOldGoat
04-07-2007, 02:16 AM
As predicted Beinn comes top 3. If Capone DOESN'T win, somethings VERY wrong

SamTheOldGoat
04-07-2007, 02:17 AM
wow, What an M Capone has!

SamTheOldGoat
04-07-2007, 02:17 AM
As we said, Capone wins, gg Pool, good predictions ;)

PoolKing
04-07-2007, 02:19 AM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Seriously Alex, the plays that I have seen not only on the 1/2 tables but ALL tables including $50 FO'S and $100 SNG's has been truely AWFUL All 3 of us living together who are playing cards all commented on the standard compared to PokerStars. Africano came 3rd in another MTT earlier as we all play on laptops in same room and the fact that afternoon MTTs have 200 max runners makes them much more appealing to play as they are often over in 2hrs unlike Stars when your looking at 5+++. I have noticed a LOT are Scandinavians and they really are living up to their LAG play, do you agree?!

Yeah, there are a lot of Scandinavian players and on the whole they are a pleasure to play, norweigans especially love chasing their flush draws ;)

Good point about the tournaments in the afternoon, I may give them a try and see you in some as I much prefer freezeouts and 2-3 hours sounds appealing.

PoolKing
04-07-2007, 02:20 AM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
As predicted Beinn comes top 3. If Capone DOESN'T win, somethings VERY wrong

Yep, good to see the best of the final bunch come out on top:p

SamTheOldGoat
04-07-2007, 02:23 AM
Indeed. Bed for me as lots of poker for the day tomorrow! Hopefully see you in some of the tournies, come say hi when you get your chat back or stick up on this thread which ones you'll play :)

PoolKing
04-07-2007, 02:24 AM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Indeed. Bed for me as lots of poker for the day tomorrow! Hopefully see you in some of the tournies, come say hi when you get your chat back or stick up on this thread which ones you'll play :)

Thanks again for the support....I am off to bed now too, will make sure I give you a shout:p

SamTheOldGoat
04-07-2007, 02:26 AM
Great. No probs, night mate :)

SamTheOldGoat
04-07-2007, 09:04 PM
Not playing 20r tonight Alex?

PoolKing
04-07-2007, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Not playing 20r tonight Alex?

No, I have been out and just got in so I missed it. Will be entering tomorrow though....will log on now also to see if you are in it:p

SamTheOldGoat
04-07-2007, 10:45 PM
Ha ha, did $80 notes as 'DiePlzFish' losing FD, AA V AJ and KQ V QJ and then went to Tesco and bought loads of nice food, played some 2/4 and 1.50/3, made 160 in about 15 mins and now registering for others. Will play the $75 FO in 2 hrs and any others if your in them? Still happy with how last night went etc?

PoolKing
04-07-2007, 10:55 PM
Yeah, I am happy about last night, once I get to the final table I am always confident and felt I did well with what I had, I didn't do much wrong.

Good luck in the tournaments tonight, I am going to have the night off and go to bed so we won't form the final 2 in any ;)

SamTheOldGoat
05-07-2007, 10:33 AM
We came second in $60 F/O for $350 or something. It was HU within the hour, the play is SO bad Alex!

PoolKing
05-07-2007, 11:11 AM
Nice result, in just one hour too, good work :-)

Also, I am not sure how late you play but there is a decent $60 freeze out at 1am that has a guaranteed prize fund of $15k, I entered it last week and it had 200 runners.

SamTheOldGoat
05-07-2007, 05:42 PM
Cheers Alex, played that last night and at 50/100 with a stack of 2000, someone made 500 to go UTG, with 1000 behind him, this guy had been eratic in previous play and we shoved with AKo, he called with AQcc and obviously flopped the nuts :D Had a great 30 min session playing 1.50/3 where we picked up $400+. Will you be playing this evening at all?

Strathclyde Eagle
05-07-2007, 06:10 PM
Sam, when you're winning are you mainly winning by seeing hands to a showdown, or by finding passive opponents all too ready to fold? Appreciate that opponents and circumstances vary by table, but was just wondering what you're looking for in table/opponent selection.

PoolKing
05-07-2007, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Will you be playing this evening at all?

Yeah I am playing the $15k Guarantee tournament now and a couple of small stake cash tables.

I tried searching for your name using the 'find player' option but for some reason it wouldn't let me search properly :confused: Let me know how you got/are getting on today :p

SamTheOldGoat
05-07-2007, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by Strathclyde Eagle
Sam, when you're winning are you mainly winning by seeing hands to a showdown, or by finding passive opponents all too ready to fold? Appreciate that opponents and circumstances vary by table, but was just wondering what you're looking for in table/opponent selection.

Mine and my brothers table selection in cash games is seeing large average pots and a high percentage of people who are seeing flops. The big wins today came from sitting at tables with shortstacks i.e. 100 dollars and less in1.50/3 and playing patiently, raising most hands to takeblinds from the button and this has happened generally uncontested. How do you select tables Strath? Only just started making notes as new to Stan James but and I'mnot just saying this, the standard compared to PokerStars is FRICKING AWFUL! Tournies are generally smaller which means they are over quicker but later at night there are still 40k guarantees etc. I think I'll continue to play on Stars for some of the big comps.

For those that haven't noticed, Stars from this Sunday are running a $11 buy in, 100k guaranteed! Will be a 5 figure prize but a large field! :)

Alex, playing 100FO and was a few off bubble and played a 20 FO and made just over 100 or something. The names I/we play on Stans now are DiePlzFish or ShipItAllPlzFish so look for those chap. Will you be playing tomorrow at all?

PS, For those that think DiePlzFish is a bit extreme, my brother believes people can/do/will tilt against him because of the name and then donate their stacks. He's not that bad a guy ;)

PPS. Playing £200 FO in Rendezvous tomorrow OR £10R incase anyones down on the south coast in Brighton?

SamTheOldGoat
05-07-2007, 10:09 PM
Also, as well as the excellent rakeback deal on Stans we are getting, I have had a couple of weeks running really bad at .5/1, 1/2 and shortstacking 2/4 and 3/6 and thought I'd move sites for a while. So far it's all good but will keep you updated! Nice to make the change and have a 'fresh start' :)

SamTheOldGoat
05-07-2007, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Also, as well as the excellent rakeback deal on Stans we are getting, I have had a couple of weeks running really bad at .5/1, 1/2 and shortstacking 2/4 and 3/6 and whenI say bad, I mean horrific, nearly $2k I think and thought I'd move sites for a while. So far it's all good but will keep you updated! Nice to make the change and have a 'fresh start' :)

PoolKing
05-07-2007, 10:57 PM
I will make a note of the usernames:p

I will probably play early tomorrow, out in the afternoon and evening but may play when I get in at 11 or 12ish, always a good time as you get loads of drunks donating chips:p

PoolKing
05-07-2007, 10:59 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat


PPS. Playing £200 FO in Rendezvous tomorrow OR £10R incase anyones down on the south coast in Brighton?

Just wondered, do you still see my cousin (Jamie) when you play at Brighton?

SamTheOldGoat
05-07-2007, 11:30 PM
As I've been living in Cheltenham at Uni, I haven't been in Brighton for a while so not for a while, but we always say hello when we see each toher! Brothers online now as his username, see if Search works

PoolKing
05-07-2007, 11:56 PM
Yep, the search is working ok now, I can see his tables.

SamTheOldGoat
06-07-2007, 12:05 AM
Down to 1 as tired, defo see you at the tables tomorrow Alex :)

Strathclyde Eagle
06-07-2007, 12:39 AM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
How do you select tables Strath?
I look for one with spaces available. :D

If there are names I recognise/have notes on, that's a bonus.

oz_da II
06-07-2007, 01:22 AM
Originally posted by Strathclyde Eagle
I look for one with spaces available. :D

If there are names I recognise/have notes on, that's a bonus.

I won't go on a table unless there are at least two idiots seated. Not difficult to find these sort of tables on Titan.

KevTheOptimist
06-07-2007, 11:22 AM
So do you actually watch tables before joining them? If so, for how long?

I generally look for tables with one space and then select the table with the most favourable position compared to the big stack etc..

oz_da II
06-07-2007, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by KevTheOptimist
So do you actually watch tables before joining them? If so, for how long?

I generally look for tables with one space and then select the table with the most favourable position compared to the big stack etc..

I open all available tables and start tracking the players with PokerOffice. When a favourable table becomes available I jump on. Play up to four tables, may have another 4 tables running in the background. If a table becomes too tight or not "stinky" enough I leave.

Funk Butter
07-07-2007, 08:01 AM
Charlie S' dad is playing in the WSOP Main Event. Not sure he'd like this line, though:

"Former soccer stars Teddy Sheringham and Tony Cascarino are playing a steady game. They have $20,500 in chips each."

Not sure which is worse, being considered retired, or being lumped in with Tony Cascarino.

samtheeagle
07-07-2007, 01:01 PM
Hand Number 794445101
Start Date 2007-07-07 08:52:35.0
End Date 2007-07-07 08:53:46.0
Pot Size $2,600.00
Rake $0.00
Game Type Hold'Em
Play Mode Real
Table Name Dubbo (Turbo)
Structure NL
Community Cards 2 3 2

Player Information
Screen
Name Seat
Position Cards
Dealt Start/End
Amount Total
Bet Win/Loss
Amount
mr cheese 1 $3,105.00/$3,105.00 $0.00 $0.00
sammygreenpea 5 J J $3,255.00/$2,055.00 $1,200.00 $-1,200.00
golfcoach 8 $1,080.00/$880.00 $200.00 $-200.00
JC5863 9 $1,615.00/$1,615.00 $0.00 $0.00
pweir 10 $5,945.00/$7,345.00 $1,200.00 $1,400.00

Hand Actions
Player Action Action Data Timestamp
mr cheese Set dealer/Bring in spot 1 08:52:35
sammygreenpea Ante/Small blind $ 100.00 08:52:35
golfcoach Big blind/Bring in $ 200.00 08:52:35
mr cheese Card dealt to a spot 08:52:35
sammygreenpea Card dealt to a spot J J 08:52:35
golfcoach Card dealt to a spot 08:52:35
JC5863 Card dealt to a spot 08:52:35
pweir Card dealt to a spot 08:52:35
JC5863 Fold $ 0.00 08:52:41
pweir Raise $ 400.00 08:52:44
mr cheese Fold $ 0.00 08:52:44
sammygreenpea Raise $ 700.00 08:52:55
golfcoach Fold $ 200.00 08:52:55
pweir Raise $ 800.00 08:52:58
sammygreenpea Call $ 400.00 08:53:06
Betting round completed Last active pot = $2,600.00 08:53:06
Card dealt to table 2 3 2 08:53:06
sammygreenpea Check 08:53:12
pweir All-in $ 4,745.00 08:53:18
sammygreenpea Fold $ 0.00 08:53:42
pweir Return uncalled portion of bet $ 4,745.00 08:53:42
Betting round completed Last active pot = $2,600.00 08:53:42
pweir Showdown 08:53:46
pweir Hand result $ 2,600.00 08:53:46

samtheeagle
07-07-2007, 01:05 PM
Guy was playing very tight and then that hand happened. The fact he re-raised me preflop and didint push all in made me think he had QQ KK or AA. Rekon I made the correct fold?

samtheeagle
07-07-2007, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by PoolKing
Just wondered, do you still see my cousin (Jamie) when you play at Brighton?

I play at the rendevouz every other week really. Down at Sussex uni so its not far for me. You get about 15 good solid players down there and there are about 40 donkeys, its fairly easy to reach the final table and get in the money then it gets tricky. Finished 3rd twice and another few final tables but never won it.

oz_da II
07-07-2007, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by samtheeagle
Guy was playing very tight and then that hand happened. The fact he re-raised me preflop and didint push all in made me think he had QQ KK or AA. Rekon I made the correct fold?

Can you put it through a hand converter? That's very difficult to read.

Billyd
07-07-2007, 09:25 PM
anyone on stars tonight?

DANCOO
08-07-2007, 09:59 AM
Played my first Hold'em tourney in ages last night, and it was nice to see things hadn't changed much.

Going along nicely, playing perfectcly, then my all-in JJ called by AJ, river A knocks me out.

Home Sweet Home. :D

Strathclyde Eagle
08-07-2007, 11:26 PM
The WSOP main event's got stupid. Even a quality player like Nelly can't last long without busting out.

;)

Billyd
08-07-2007, 11:38 PM
anyone play the big one in stars tonight, 15,000 runners!!!! i cashed but nothing major

oz_da II
09-07-2007, 03:21 AM
Originally posted by Strathclyde Eagle
The WSOP main event's got stupid. Even a quality player like Nelly can't last long without busting out.

;)

Last time i checked Montell Williams (talk show host) was leading. Cards and flops were hitting him Jamie Gold-style apparently.

SamTheOldGoat
09-07-2007, 08:58 AM
The time away from the Poker to get my degree was worth it! Got my results today and picked up a 2:1 !!!!! :D

Played some dealers choice yesterday at Rendezvous as my best friend was playing the £500 freezeout second day and picked up a few hundred, mainly from flopping the boat at Omaha then smashing someone in Irish. Look forward to playing without any 'degrees' on my brain now. See you at the tables guys :)

PS, I'll sort a private comp out this week for us on Stars :)

PPS, this year at the main even thtey started on 20k so 20.5k isn't that impressive :D

saul1664
09-07-2007, 11:23 PM
Tricky decision in tournament. Down to 6K, blinds 200/400, in BB, have 9J that develops into a straight on the turn with 3 diamonds on the board. Up against a serial raiser so slow play the turn (wrong move should have pushed all in here), 4th card is a diamond, he pushes for 4K (he has about 14K). I look at 2.8K left and fold and he wins the hand with A high (no diamonds). Was I right to fold here or so pot committed that had to push in on the river despite the flush draw.

Ended up limping out, had to make a move with A2 from BB, and got 3 callers AA, KK, A10 :eek:

KevTheOptimist
10-07-2007, 07:56 AM
With 3 diamonds on board, I don't think I could have slow played there, maybe not an all in but a healthy raise that would have seen me pot commited by the turn and therefore winning the hand either on flop or on turn having been put all in by the bluff!

SamTheOldGoat
10-07-2007, 08:32 AM
Shove the turn, take his chips as he knows as sooon as the diamond pips he can scare you off

saul1664
10-07-2007, 08:50 AM
Originally posted by KevTheOptimist
With 3 diamonds on board, I don't think I could have slow played there, maybe not an all in but a healthy raise that would have seen me pot commited by the turn and therefore winning the hand either on flop or on turn having been put all in by the bluff!

I didn't exactly slow play the turn, but still had half my chip stack left. Know I should have pushed on the turn, but the question is what to do when the fourth diamond hit on the river rather than what I should have done on the turn.

DANCOO
10-07-2007, 09:43 AM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
The time away from the Poker to get my degree was worth it! Got my results today and picked up a 2:1 !!!!! :D


Should have posted this on the other thread, nice one Sam. :p

SamTheOldGoat
10-07-2007, 10:39 AM
Thanks Dan, such a weight off my shoulders, feels so great :D

Saul, I pass river there..............

DANCOO
10-07-2007, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Thanks Dan, such a weight off my shoulders, feels so great :D


I'll bet it does.

What's your plan then, or are you just going to take it as it comes?

Micky Droy
10-07-2007, 10:55 AM
QAnyone know where we can catch some WSOP on British TV? Have full Sky [packkage but can;t see anyone covering it.

saul1664
10-07-2007, 11:08 AM
Its pay per view. $19.95. www.sports.espn.go.com/espn/poker/pokerPPV

saul1664
10-07-2007, 11:10 AM
Another tricky one.

3 handed, dealt QQ, raise to $2 (0.50/$1 table), get called, flop is Jh 9h 2c, raise to $4, get called all in for $50. What do you do?

Player is fairly loose, calling raises almost every hand, although tending to slow down when cards hit the board, but first time he has actually pushed all in.

PoolKing
10-07-2007, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
The time away from the Poker to get my degree was worth it! Got my results today and picked up a 2:1 !!!!! :D


Just seen this, nice one Sam:p

Gav The Hamster
10-07-2007, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by saul1664
Another tricky one.

3 handed, dealt QQ, raise to $2 (0.50/$1 table), get called, flop is Jh 9h 2c, raise to $4, get called all in for $50. What do you do?

Player is fairly loose, calling raises almost every hand, although tending to slow down when cards hit the board, but first time he has actually pushed all in.

that isnt a big enough pre flop raise on that size table. He could literally have any hand and i would suggest you are beat already.

saul1664
10-07-2007, 11:28 AM
I play short handed, plus it was only 3 handed, any bigger than that you are going to induce a fold to anything but the biggest hands (which would have me beat anyway)

SamTheOldGoat
10-07-2007, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by DANCOO
I'll bet it does.

What's your plan then, or are you just going to take it as it comes?

Taking a month off, got a load of things I need/want to sort out and in this time just going to play for a living. Will concentrate on £2/£2 dealers choice in Brighton and some £2/£5 elsewhere. Then moving to Cardiff as my gf has a house there however will rent a house, get a job, hopefully get married within 2 years then get a career, so yer, take it as it comes :)

Thanks Alex :)

Alex, Your opponent who shoved for $50, may well have had KJ, AJ, JQ, I haven't seen him play but I think long and hard about making the call....

oz_da II
10-07-2007, 01:54 PM
Weekly pub league update. :D

Finished 2nd this week. :eek: 48 runners.
So that's two 3rds and a runner-up from three starts. Trebled up after the third hand. Pocket Jacks 4xBB raise five callers. 552 flop, 3/4 pot bet, three callers, K turn, fire again, two callers, 2 on the river, checked around. Opponents had AQ and 99. Nice. Sit around for ages, card dead, steal a few small pots, keep away from the big pots.

Somehow sneak my way into HU. My mate finishes 3rd getting sucked out by a runner runner straight. About 5:1 behind. Massive blinds. My all in with garbage first two hands result in folds. 3rd hand get 44, he calls, I go all in. He um and ahs and eventually calls after plenty of "help" from the locals, chip count is about 3:2 now. Flops over Q5h :eek:, pairs his 5 on the flop and I can't hit a gutshot or a set on the turn nor river.

Anyway, that makes me top of the pub leader board (by a fair margin), top 5 in each pub go to the state final, winner of that gets entry into next year's WSOP ME everything paid for (obviously). Top nine players (final table) get entry into the Australian Poker Championships. Would have to fall in a heap not to get top 5 from here. 11 weeks to go. :p

ozeagle
10-07-2007, 02:02 PM
i'll bankroll you to the tune of 1K in Melb.
i want to see it doubled by sunrise, or don't expect to be able to get back into "our" room ;)
(you will of course receive a healthy commission)

oz_da II
10-07-2007, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by ozeagle
i'll bankroll you to the tune of 1K in Melb.
i want to see it doubled by sunrise, or don't expect to be able to get back into "our" room ;)
(you will of course receive a healthy commission)

:p

Must admit to being on fire in the cash games as well at the moment....

May well make a healthy "cash out" from my online accounts pre-Melbourne.

ozeagle
10-07-2007, 02:20 PM
i'm serious. i'm not going to watch, i'll be on Blackjack, playing the rules, watching my $ go around, breaking even.

just come and grab me when you've got the 10 grey nurses.

;)

Gav The Hamster
10-07-2007, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by saul1664
I play short handed, plus it was only 3 handed, any bigger than that you are going to induce a fold to anything but the biggest hands (which would have me beat anyway)

yes i know, but then you've gone from a situation of taking the blinds and making a profit from the hand to folding and losing money in the hand. I know what you mean though, you always want action with high PPs.

and congrats Sam, perhaps you can pay off your student loan with your profits !!!

PoolKing
10-07-2007, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Alex, Your opponent who shoved for $50, may well have had KJ, AJ, JQ, I haven't seen him play but I think long and hard about making the call....

What hand are you referring to?....It was probably one at the end of my session, was tilting a little and made some poor calls;)

DANCOO
10-07-2007, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by PoolKing
What hand are you referring to?....It was probably one at the end of my session, was tilting a little and made some poor calls;)
I think he meant 'Saul'.

saul1664
10-07-2007, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by Gav The Hamster
yes i know, but then you've gone from a situation of taking the blinds and making a profit from the hand to folding and losing money in the hand. I know what you mean though, you always want action with high PPs.

and congrats Sam, perhaps you can pay off your student loan with your profits !!!

There's not much point taking 0.75 profit from a pair of queens. If the table had been full, could have raised higher. It's part of the risk of playing short handed, you have to be much more aware pre-flop and play your opponents well on the flop. If he's on KK AA, he's going to reraise me no matter what I bet anyway. If he has JJ he has his set, and can't see anyone putting their whole stack in on a flush draw, he was scared of flush, unless he had AJ with flush draw.

Gav The Hamster
10-07-2007, 04:00 PM
Yes Saul i'm not disputing that I'm just playing devils advocate in a way.

At the end of the day he probably has J9 and you havent lost much money, there will be better spots for you to coin it in with QQ.

SamTheOldGoat
10-07-2007, 04:45 PM
Cheers Gav, I'm lucky enough not to have taken a 'student loan' thanks to poker/placement year etc so only got interest free overdraft to pay off :)

Yes Alex, sorry chap, as Dan mentions, I ment Saul and not Alex :) PS, you seen my bro on Stans in the last few days? I've been busy and haven't played online so haven't seen you or him :)

saul1664
10-07-2007, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by Gav The Hamster
Yes Saul i'm not disputing that I'm just playing devils advocate in a way.

At the end of the day he probably has J9 and you havent lost much money, there will be better spots for you to coin it in with QQ.

That's what I thought and ended £50 up, when my nuts got pushed all in twice. :p

Strathclyde Eagle
10-07-2007, 08:08 PM
Congrats on the degree result Sam. :p

Strathclyde Eagle
10-07-2007, 09:21 PM
Tomas Brolin made day 2 of the main event. :cool:

SamTheOldGoat
10-07-2007, 10:36 PM
Cheers Strath, still chuffed 36 hours later :D

Micky Droy
10-07-2007, 10:44 PM
Originally posted by saul1664
Its pay per view. $19.95. www.sports.espn.go.com/espn/poker/pokerPPV

WANKERS!!!!

saul1664
11-07-2007, 12:06 AM
Just been on the same table as the hamster.

SamTheOldGoat
11-07-2007, 08:43 AM
and?

DANCOO
11-07-2007, 08:56 AM
Originally posted by saul1664
Just been on the same table as the hamster.

Did he inflict a bad beat on you?

oz_da II
11-07-2007, 08:59 AM
:D

SamTheOldGoat
11-07-2007, 09:48 AM
lol

Gav The Hamster
11-07-2007, 09:52 AM
Saul and I rarely tangled to be honest so no bad beat stories though I will aim to get him at some point !!! I think we both left the table at least a buy in up from the original $50.

I used to play Betfair alot before they changed their software and have only just gone back to it partly because of Saul slagging the general level of play off. Seems to be working at the smaller tables and the play is a little ropey, so long may it continue !

ozeagle
11-07-2007, 11:38 AM
oz_da...

http://promos.centrebet.com/poker/heroes/

saul1664
11-07-2007, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by Gav The Hamster
Saul and I rarely tangled to be honest so no bad beat stories though I will aim to get him at some point !!! I think we both left the table at least a buy in up from the original $50.

I used to play Betfair alot before they changed their software and have only just gone back to it partly because of Saul slagging the general level of play off. Seems to be working at the smaller tables and the play is a little ropey, so long may it continue !

No bad beats last night, though Hamster did win a monster hand (on the river I think - what was it?). Table had been slow as hell, before he came then the action went wild. Had J4 in BB, made two pair on the flop, then get an all in ($38) on the flop (2 diamonds on board), call, he turns over 25 diamonds, no pair on board, turn is a diamond (of course), but river makes the full house! Then short stack who kept pushing all in on any low card when he hit it, tried to bluff me of KA on board of A + 3 spades, he had one spade drawing to the flush and didn't make it. Doubled buy in on that table, and 1.5 times buy in on other table. So all good.

Billyd
11-07-2007, 10:53 PM
Originally posted by saul1664
I play short handed, plus it was only 3 handed, any bigger than that you are going to induce a fold to anything but the biggest hands (which would have me beat anyway)

hes 100% right your raise was not big enough pre flop. its an EASYfold to the all in bet

Billyd
11-07-2007, 10:55 PM
whats everyones user names on all the sites by the way?

saul1664
12-07-2007, 01:15 AM
Originally posted by Billyd
hes 100% right your raise was not big enough pre flop. its an EASYfold to the all in bet

I don't think you are quite grasping the concept of playing short handed with no money in the pot.

1-0 to the hamster tonight.

oz_da II
12-07-2007, 01:47 AM
Originally posted by saul1664
I don't think you are quite grasping the concept of playing short handed with no money in the pot.


I'm not sure Billyd plays short handed (either that or doesn't grasp it), he "had a go" at my short handed style as well. :moo:

SamTheOldGoat
12-07-2007, 01:55 PM
BillyD- Play on Stars, cash only as NiceHitFish
Play on Prima=Stan James, cash only as ShipItAllPlzFish
Party=PokerIsMyWife/DestroyinYoo

Can't remember my Betfair username, haven't been back there for maybe 2 years now!

Gav The Hamster
12-07-2007, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by saul1664

1-0 to the hamster tonight.

;)

i should probably have gone all in and either you or the other guy may have called.

Bad night all in all though. Went from $200 to $270 down to $60 and then finished back up at $200.

saul1664
12-07-2007, 02:26 PM
I was multi tabling and didn't show enough attention to the flush, was so card dead on that table started getting frustrated which is never good, however was over $120 up on other table and was hitting everything and made another £30 in two hours today. Would have been more. Played perfectly in 9 runner sit and go until heads up when level stacks - reraised all in on a 777 9 10 board when hitting the straight to lose to K9 full house (again was multi-tabling and not paying enough attention)!

saul1664
12-07-2007, 02:28 PM
And when I was playing far too loose on that table folded the nut flush draw to $6 raise on the turn (called by another player as well) only to see the flush come out on the river!

samtheeagle
12-07-2007, 02:56 PM
Anyone else play on Bodog poker on here? Very loose play in the lower stacks. Just got my aces full of 5's beaten by a straight flush though.

samtheeagle
12-07-2007, 08:48 PM
Can anyone recomend a loose site with good rakeback deals? I'm being raped at the moment.

gjtango
12-07-2007, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by samtheeagle
Can anyone recomend a loose site with good rakeback deals? I'm being raped at the moment.

Sam, what sites do you play on/recommend playing on? I've only been playing online a few months and so far have only used Will Hill. It's George Becca's friend here btw!

SamTheOldGoat
12-07-2007, 09:09 PM
Highly recommend Stan James for poor play. I get 35% rakeback as long as I rake over 1k a month, my brother rakes over $6k a month so he's getting over $2k back into his account! A lot better than Stars' FPP's. Drop me a line if you want anymore info.

FullTilt offer 27% RB as well so another one to consider.

GJTango. What stakes adn what sort of games do you play, MTT's, SNG's, cash etc?

gjtango
12-07-2007, 09:13 PM
Cheers! Since i've only been playing for a few months, I've tended to just be playing on Will Hill on 3 quid cash games with 15 quid 1st price, 9 2nd and 6 3rd on a 10 man table. Fancy upping my stakes at some stage as starting to have a bit of cash coming in from a few jobs I've been doing/am doing atm. Haven't indulged in any dollar malarky yet.

Out of interest what's rakeback? Never heard the phrase.

SamTheOldGoat
12-07-2007, 09:34 PM
Ok, every time you register for a £3 tournament, you will see the fee as £3+0.30, so in effect your paying 3.30. Only 3 goes into the prize pool and the fee, typically 10% goes to the pokerroom so they make money. If I'm playing 10x£100 sit and goes in a day, I'm giving £100 to the online poker room. If I'm on a 35% rakeback scheme, I will received £35 back from the casino so they only make £65. Hope that helps

oz_da II
12-07-2007, 11:42 PM
They are on the bubble at the WSOP Main Event. The average hand is taking 8 minutes to complete. Three long days of poker for FA or a minimum of $20,000. Most pros or big stacks will be stealing heaps of blinds and antes at the moment.

grey ghost
13-07-2007, 12:47 AM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Ok, every time you register for a £3 tournament, you will see the fee as £3+0.30, so in effect your paying 3.30. Only 3 goes into the prize pool and the fee, typically 10% goes to the pokerroom so they make money. If I'm playing 10x£100 sit and goes in a day, I'm giving £100 to the online poker room. If I'm on a 35% rakeback scheme, I will received £35 back from the casino so they only make £65. Hope that helps

do you have to negotiate this rake back direct with the company , or do you get set percentages dependant on volume ?

PoolKing
13-07-2007, 01:54 AM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Highly recommend Stan James for poor play.

Things seem to have got even better! The network seems to have expanded tonight as there is an OVERLOAD of fishy french players, it is unreal :eek:

By the way, I haven't noticed your brother online but I haven't checked too much. If he hasn't been playing tell him to get back fast:p

oz_da II
13-07-2007, 02:55 AM
Originally posted by PoolKing
Things seem to have got even better! The network seems to have expanded tonight as there is an OVERLOAD of fishy french players, it is unreal :eek:


Whenever there is a questionable/crazy play which gets questioned in chat the usual answer from a fellow player is either, "He's Italian" or "He's French. Seen some absolute howlers. Got called down with a guy holding 5 high last night.

Also last night, I had my aces cracked from some buffoon called Stefano_somethingorother. I'm BB, he's UTG. He raises, folded around. I raise, he re-raises, I cap.

Flop 9TK, gets capped. Next card a 2 or a 3. I'm well aware he can have any two cards. He bets, I raise, he calls. River Q. Uh oh. He bets, I call. The Italian donkey flips over J5o for a straight...

:moo:

oz_da II
13-07-2007, 07:29 AM
As it goes the monster chip leader at the WSOP ME is an Italian, has almost double the next guy, just under 400 players left.

SamTheOldGoat
13-07-2007, 08:32 AM
Originally posted by PoolKing
Things seem to have got even better! The network seems to have expanded tonight as there is an OVERLOAD of fishy french players, it is unreal :eek:

By the way, I haven't noticed your brother online but I haven't checked too much. If he hasn't been playing tell him to get back fast:p

We are both back on Stans as from now playing cash mate, if your around, sat next to each other, no 1.50/3 but 1/2 is full of fish! SHIP :)

SamTheOldGoat
13-07-2007, 08:33 AM
PS, DarioMinieri, leading the ME has had a lot of previous success albeit not in the WSOP events, however his EPT results have been very good I think and is a Pokerstars sponsored player, although I hear he plays omaha like dog shit!

SamTheOldGoat
13-07-2007, 08:36 AM
Originally posted by grey ghost
do you have to negotiate this rake back direct with the company , or do you get set percentages dependant on volume ?

Most rakeback sites are promoting the fact, so Full Tilt etc, you just sign up and awayw you go. Stan James don't offer this now instead doing loyalty points, but if you DO want to use this site, I have the name/email address of a guy who sorts out rakeback within Stan James for James, however this rake back offer isn't advertised. I think this is the same with POOL KING Alex with regards to BET365

Billyd
13-07-2007, 09:21 AM
Originally posted by saul1664
I don't think you are quite grasping the concept of playing short handed with no money in the pot.



i understand completely what your saying. But ive played poker for many years and read pretty much every poker book out there and in my opinion its a bad play to min raise here. why?

well firstly the min raise gives him odds to call with ANY 2 cards. Even 2-3 he now has odds to call. This makes it difficult when any flop occurs to put him on any sort of hand. So when 3 under cards hit and he hits 2 pair you end up losing a lot of money because u simply cant put him on a hand. If you raise say 3x the bb thens he got alot less hands he can call with, although now you know what sort of hands he might have called with (e.g maybe ace high, low pair, 2 high cards) so when the flop hits you now have a much better idea of where you stand when the flop hits. Where as if you min raise, he can call with 2 cards and hit 2 pair. as he probably did. If he slow played his 2 pair he told have taken alot more money off you.

Obviously there is no exact right and wrong to any way to play hands but i feel you min raising in that situation is a bad idea.

SamTheOldGoat
13-07-2007, 09:37 AM
anyone know why I run like a rabied dog in low limit SNG's? lol!

PokerStars Game #10913701315:
Tournament #55330776, Level II (15/30) - 2007/07/13 - 05:32:50 (ET)
Table '55330776 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: $m@rtAzzS (1485 in chips)
Seat 3: low 1972 (1835 in chips)
Seat 4: DJGotti (2090 in chips)
Seat 5: NiceHitFish© (1360 in chips)
Seat 6: DrawDonkey (2030 in chips)
Seat 7: GELupo (2475 in chips)
Seat 8: Fabo360 (1950 in chips)
Seat 9: Drateks (275 in chips)
DJGotti: posts small blind 15
NiceHitFish©: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NiceHitFish© [5d 4s]
DrawDonkey: raises 60 to 90
GELupo: calls 90
Fabo360: folds
Drateks: folds
$m@rtAzzS: folds
low 1972: folds
DJGotti: folds
low 1972 is sitting out
NiceHitFish©: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [8s 4h 5c]
Fabo360 said, "didnt like that turn card"
NiceHitFish©: checks
DrawDonkey: bets 175
GELupo: raises 245 to 420
NiceHitFish©: calls 420
DrawDonkey: raises 1380 to 1800
GELupo: raises 585 to 2385 and is all-in
low 1972 has returned
NiceHitFish©: calls 850 and is all-in
DrawDonkey: calls 140 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [8s 4h 5c] [Qs]
*** RIVER *** [8s 4h 5c Qs] [9d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DrawDonkey: shows [Qh Qc] (three of a kind, Queens)
GELupo: shows [7c 8h] (a pair of Eights)
DrawDonkey collected 1340 from side pot
NiceHitFish©: shows [5d 4s] (two pair, Fives and Fours)
DrawDonkey collected 4095 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5435 Main pot 4095. Side pot 1340. | Rake 0
Board [8s 4h 5c Qs 9d]
Seat 1: $m@rtAzzS folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: low 1972 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: DJGotti (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: NiceHitFish© (big blind) showed [5d 4s] and lost with two pair, Fives and Fours
Seat 6: DrawDonkey showed [Qh Qc] and won (5435) with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 7: GELupo showed [7c 8h] and lost with a pair of Eights
Seat 8: Fabo360 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Drateks folded before Flop (didn't bet)

SamTheOldGoat
13-07-2007, 09:39 AM
That's why I don't play them ^^^ Was just getting taught by my brother but think I'll stick to where the big bucks are in cash!

Billyd
13-07-2007, 10:46 AM
why u playing 54 off suit out of position to a raise? didnt have cards, position odds to play.sort of call that gets u in trouble as youve just shown. no sympathy what so ever

Strathclyde Eagle
13-07-2007, 11:40 AM
He's putting 60 in to see a flop with 225 already in the pot, that's 4:1 (roughly), plus implied odds if he hits big on the flop. Goes ahead on the flop and is beaten by a two-outer.

Not anywhere near the worst beat I've ever seen, but I do have some sympathy.

saul1664
13-07-2007, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by Billyd
i understand completely what your saying. But ive played poker for many years and read pretty much every poker book out there and in my opinion its a bad play to min raise here. why?

well firstly the min raise gives him odds to call with ANY 2 cards. Even 2-3 he now has odds to call. This makes it difficult when any flop occurs to put him on any sort of hand. So when 3 under cards hit and he hits 2 pair you end up losing a lot of money because u simply cant put him on a hand. If you raise say 3x the bb thens he got alot less hands he can call with, although now you know what sort of hands he might have called with (e.g maybe ace high, low pair, 2 high cards) so when the flop hits you now have a much better idea of where you stand when the flop hits. Where as if you min raise, he can call with 2 cards and hit 2 pair. as he probably did. If he slow played his 2 pair he told have taken alot more money off you.

Obviously there is no exact right and wrong to any way to play hands but i feel you min raising in that situation is a bad idea.

It was 4 x BB raise. Have also been beaten with KK to Q7 offsuit to 6 x BB raise, so people will call with any two cards.

Strathclyde Eagle
13-07-2007, 12:23 PM
Raising to 90 in that situation is only a 3xBB raise. Sam's in the big blind so he's seeing a flop at a discount, plus by the time it comes round to him he's last to act, so no chance of someone behind him coming over the top.

samtheeagle
13-07-2007, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by gjtango
Sam, what sites do you play on/recommend playing on? I've only been playing online a few months and so far have only used Will Hill. It's George Becca's friend here btw!
Normally on Bodog because it allows American players but also got accounts with Titan and Stars. There all pretty loose but as im playing alot at the moment I need a rakeback deal which none of those sites are offering. Catch ya later.

samtheeagle
13-07-2007, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Highly recommend Stan James for poor play. I get 35% rakeback as long as I rake over 1k a month, my brother rakes over $6k a month so he's getting over $2k back into his account! A lot better than Stars' FPP's. Drop me a line if you want anymore info.

FullTilt offer 27% RB as well so another one to consider.

GJTango. What stakes adn what sort of games do you play, MTT's, SNG's, cash etc?

Details on the rakeback deal for Stan James please!

SamTheOldGoat
13-07-2007, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by Billyd
why u playing 54 off suit out of position to a raise? didnt have cards, position odds to play.sort of call that gets u in trouble as youve just shown. no sympathy what so ever

:D I don't normally play these stakes or SNGs and had just woken and was having a laugh. Look at the way it plays. There is ALREADY 210 in the pot, I'm getting heavy discount to see the flop, 60 to win 270 with 210 in there. If I pass there I'm a fricking dip-stick and shouldn't be playing poker ;)

SamTheOldGoat
13-07-2007, 01:20 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
:D I don't normally play these stakes or SNGs and had just woken and was having a laugh. Look at the way it plays. There is ALREADY 210 in the pot, I'm getting heavy discount to see the flop, 60 to win 270 with 210 in there. If I pass there I'm a fricking dip-stick and shouldn't be playing poker ;)

I don't wait for AK, KK, AA, AQ, JJ. I like busting big hands with low cards and mid cards which I nearly did here and got unlucky! It's not a bad beat, just an observation that I'm not cut out for shitty SNG's

SamTheOldGoat
13-07-2007, 01:22 PM
PS, give Strath a Ginsters Pastie ;)

samtheeagle. I will PM you details when I've stopped playing chap, or if your on MSN, add me, samegg@hotmail.com and I'll try and help out. Do you think you rake over 1k a month? If you want to play on bet365, PoolKing is your man :)

SamTheOldGoat
13-07-2007, 01:23 PM
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Billyd
13-07-2007, 01:36 PM
Originally posted by saul1664
Another tricky one.

3 handed, dealt QQ, raise to $2 (0.50/$1 table),

you only min raised look

Billyd
13-07-2007, 01:38 PM
Originally posted by saul1664
It was 4 x BB raise. Have also been beaten with KK to Q7 offsuit to 6 x BB raise, so people will call with any two cards.


it was min raise as u said. if it was 4xbb then u did nothing wrong. if people call with any 2 cards to a large pre flop raise then they are playing it wrong and youll profit in the long run. But if u min raise he has odds to call with any 2 and u have no idea where you stand

Billyd
13-07-2007, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
I'm getting heavy discount to see the flop, 60 to win 270 with 210 in there. If I pass there I'm a fricking dip-stick and shouldn't be playing poker ;)

true youve got your odds to call but your hand is still poor and theres no need to get into those sort of situations early on in a tourney when the blinds are small

SamTheOldGoat
13-07-2007, 02:05 PM
I've got my odds to call, so I call. I call there with ANY connecting cards, even 2/3 o/s. I don't think 4/5 is a 'poor' hand, and after I smash the flop, I'm not getting away from it. Realistically 8's are the only possible hand to beat me and I go into the flop as a large favourite. What cards would you have in the hole to call the extra 60 to make up the initial raise Billy>

samtheeagle
13-07-2007, 02:07 PM
At the moment I am playing a good few hours every day. Think im over 1k. Let me know the details, cheers.

samtheeagle
13-07-2007, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
PS, give Strath a Ginsters Pastie ;)

samtheeagle. I will PM you details when I've stopped playing chap, or if your on MSN, add me, samegg@hotmail.com and I'll try and help out. Do you think you rake over 1k a month? If you want to play on bet365, PoolKing is your man :)

Whats the rakeback on bet365 and how much do I need to rake?

oz_da II
13-07-2007, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
I've got my odds to call, so I call. I call there with ANY connecting cards, even 2/3 o/s. I don't think 4/5 is a 'poor' hand, and after I smash the flop, I'm not getting away from it. Realistically 8's are the only possible hand to beat me and I go into the flop as a large favourite. What cards would you have in the hole to call the extra 60 to make up the initial raise Billy>

I'm thinking stick it all in, rather than calling, after all the action on the flop. Saying that in this particular occassion, I don't think QQ is going away.

I'm also thinking folding pre-flop is the best option in this particular occassion. Really don't like being out of position to a raise even when we hit it, although we've hit it particularly well on this occassion..

PoolKing
13-07-2007, 02:17 PM
Originally posted by samtheeagle
Whats the rakeback on bet365 and how much do I need to rake?

30%, you just need to play regularly. There is no amount you need to rake on a weekly/monthly basis, you just have to consistently play on the site.

Billyd
13-07-2007, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by oz_da II
I'm thinking stick it all in, rather than calling, after all the action on the flop. Saying that in this particular occassion, I don't think QQ is going away.

I'm also thinking folding pre-flop is the best option in this particular occassion. Really don't like being out of position to a raise even when we hit it, although we've hit it particularly well on this occassion..

spot on - if your going to play it gotta go all in after flop. remember the queens also win if another 8 hits also

imo playing 4-5 off suit is going to get you inyp trouble and lose you alot more chips than you'll win. Yeah you may have the odds - but remember this is a tournament not a cash game you cant just top up your chips once you lose some

samtheeagle
13-07-2007, 03:12 PM
Having a terrible day. Playing $30 SNG's 4 left on the button with QQ Raise x5 BB, 2 callers, Flop comes Q,4,5, I push all in and some twat calls me with 67 and guess what he hits on the turn!

SamTheOldGoat
13-07-2007, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by oz_da II
I'm thinking stick it all in, rather than calling, after all the action on the flop. Saying that in this particular occassion, I don't think QQ is going away.

I'm also thinking folding pre-flop is the best option in this particular occassion. Really don't like being out of position to a raise even when we hit it, although we've hit it particularly well on this occassion..

If/when I miss the flop I'm binning. Because of preflop action I KNOW I can smash big hands. The flops so great and a monster killer, rather than making the shove I want BOTH players chips and even if F.C'd I still generally don't see the Q on the turn as a scare card and do my stack there. It appears 78 can't put it down and QQ is never going away in a small SNG.

I suppose this is why I have a -1$ average profit from SNG's and only play cash games for a living. No doubt I do my stack playing 1/2, 2/4 here as well and as Billy says, click the magic 'reload' button ;)

Playing rendezvous tonight, think someone else on here plays there on Fridays? and will play cash after, only £2/£2 dealers choice, but even when I sit with £200+ there are some players with £1k+ giving their money away. Here's to a good night. :love:

SamTheOldGoat
13-07-2007, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by Billyd
spot on - if your going to play it gotta go all in after flop. remember the queens also win if another 8 hits also


Imo you don't have to go all in after flop, I want to extract the chips. I don't want 2 folders, I want the rest of their chips and WAY more often than not they are being shipped to me.

The 8/3 outs doesn't even come into consideration in this pot

Strathclyde Eagle
13-07-2007, 05:55 PM
Didn't the guy with the 8 also have a gutshot straight draw? (Holding 87, flop 8-5-4.)

BTW, re-read the hand. All the money went in on the flop, when Sam's the favourite. You can't ask for much more than that.

SamTheOldGoat
13-07-2007, 06:06 PM
Thanks Strath, you can't. The p.f raise and my call MAY have been a little 'loose' even though I did have odds etc la la la. Not sure if I would have made it in a big sng however I make that call in cash games generally. IMO the post flop play was fine....... just got unlucky, bloody rigged computer games, hey Selhurst ;)

Billyd
13-07-2007, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Imo you don't have to go all in after flop, I want to extract the chips. I don't want 2 folders, I want the rest of their chips and WAY more often than not they are being shipped to me.

The 8/3 outs doesn't even come into consideration in this pot

bottom 2 pair is a bit risky against 2 opponents.

Also cash isnt the way to make big money. its all about the mt tourneys!

saul1664
13-07-2007, 07:36 PM
Pushing with two pair on the flop is dangerous. 9 handed table (usual limit of $0.50/$1), everybody flat calls to me in the big blind, I have Q 10, flop comes Q 10 2 rainbow.

One raiser who raises the pot to $4, everyone folds so I call, turn card is a 7. He raises again to $10, don't fear a pair or trips, try to put him on QA 10 A, or even a lower pair, push him all in he has KK, river K. Whole buy in gone.

Billyd
13-07-2007, 07:39 PM
unlucky nothing you can do there! he should have paid for not raising with his king pre flop

Reps AJ
13-07-2007, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by samtheeagle
Can anyone recomend a loose site with good rakeback deals? I'm being raped at the moment.

Laddies are doing rakeback deals based on your earnt player points - 20% upwards

Zola's Chin
13-07-2007, 08:21 PM
The only way I'm playing 45os early in a sit n go is if I'm in on the big blind & there's no raise. Or if I'm the small blind & there's been 2 or 3 or more callers on the way round, I'll see a flop too. Any other situation I'm folding regardless of odds.

I have no problem with the way Sam played the hand post-flop.

SamTheOldGoat
14-07-2007, 12:18 AM
Originally posted by Billyd
bottom 2 pair is a bit risky against 2 opponents.

Also cash isnt the way to make big money. its all about the mt tourneys!

Rubbish! You look at the big boys. They are NOT making their money from MTT's, they are making their money from the cash games which are running day in day out at all hours unlike MTT's. Admittedly there are MTTs players who solely play MTTs who are making good/great wedge but these are few and far between. Pocketfives.com runs a rankings system for every player on the net and recently I read that even those in the top 100 are NOT winning players!

Fair do's my brother had a couple of good scores, $40k and the rest in a week but read any blog or book and these MTT players will go weeks/months without a big score playing day in day out. THey spend thousands on buy ins hoping to take down the big one and from what I've heard this is the high of stress for poker players, much more so than the cash game players and SNG players to some degree. My brother had a $7k downswing in a week last week from playing 100/200 sngs and 100 rebuys. The variance is HUUUUUUUUUGE all for the 'elusive' score. If I have a £7k downswing in cash, I'll be realising I'm not a winning player and take poker off my laptop!

SamTheOldGoat
14-07-2007, 12:19 AM
Billy, in what way, in fact, in ANY way is bottom 2 pair there 'a bit risky'. As mentioned there, in all likelyhood one hand beating me, and the odds/chance of him holding this pocket pair is SLIM.

Billyd
14-07-2007, 12:43 AM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Rubbish! You look at the big boys. They are NOT making their money from MTT's,

i know i was only joking becuase im a tourney not a cash player!

SamTheOldGoat
14-07-2007, 12:44 AM
Good luck in the quest for the big score! Hopefully one day one of us on here will take down the Sunday Million!

Billyd
14-07-2007, 12:47 AM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Billy, in what way, in fact, in ANY way is bottom 2 pair there 'a bit risky'. As mentioned there, in all likelyhood one hand beating me, and the odds/chance of him holding this pocket pair is SLIM.


in that hand against the 2 players you were only just over 50% to win the hand after the flop. anyway its fair enough of play. my only complaint is the call pre flop. in a cash game fair enough not in a stt of mtt

Billyd
14-07-2007, 12:48 AM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Good luck in the quest for the big score! Hopefully one day one of us on here will take down the Sunday Million!

my mate came 4th about a month ago. his aces lost to jacks!

SamTheOldGoat
14-07-2007, 12:50 AM
What about a rebuy MTT?

50%?!?!? Please find me the EXACT percentages?!

SamTheOldGoat
14-07-2007, 12:52 AM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
What about a rebuy MTT?

50 ?Please find me the EXACT percentages?!

Strathclyde Eagle
14-07-2007, 12:56 AM
Just tried a new move. Add a digit to your raise when you're typing it, make it look like a typing mistake, to see if someone will come over the top.

Didn't work. :clown:

SamTheOldGoat
14-07-2007, 12:58 AM
ha ha! Brian Townsend wrote about doing that in his blog when he made it 16000 to go playing 300/600 v Ivey and got paid heavy!

Billyd
14-07-2007, 01:07 AM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
What about a rebuy MTT?




rebuy il play any hand any position if i feel like it. theres no right or wrong for re buy!!!

Strathclyde Eagle
14-07-2007, 01:08 AM
Can't remember who it was Ivey was playing against in the account I read, so that might very well have been what gave me the idea.

SamTheOldGoat
14-07-2007, 01:16 AM
I was joking Billy ;) I play any two cards in rebuys regardless as I don;t want to go into the break with average chips!

saul1664
14-07-2007, 01:17 AM
Shocking day of riverings for me.

Worst has to be when holding 99, flop comes 942 rainbow, get one caller, he bets heavy, turn brings a non threatening Q, he bets heavy again. I call him all in. He turns over 44 for lower set. River 4.

Then in sit and go end up in all in situation with medium stack. 99 vs JA. First card 2. Then 4 consecutive hearts. 7 8 9. River 10. To give him the straight. Although I do recover to finish second. But heads up lasts one hand. Covered five to one, I push with 77, but A8 finds an A on the turn.

Thought standard may get higher in $50 sit and go's but it gets worse. Very first hand I have JJ with only two to act behind me. Everyone flat calls, except for person in front of me who raises 9 X BB, I call. Then two of the flat callers, push all in. Original raiser folds. I think about pushing all in as well but have to put them on higher pairs so fold. They turn over 33 and K8 offsuit. The 33 holds up.

I then end up crippled after a KKK flop, I push with 99 and run into AA, again AA flat called at the start of the hand.

:eek:

SamTheOldGoat
14-07-2007, 01:24 AM
Someone in Main Event just lost 9's to 9's. Ouch

gjtango
14-07-2007, 01:51 AM
Played a couple games on Will Hill tonight. On one flop, 3 clubs game out, with me holding 2 clubs. Excellent I thought, until another 2 clubs on the turn and river! 5 clubs out. Ridiculous.

A bit after that there were 4 spades out. Stupid stuff.

oz_da II
14-07-2007, 02:06 AM
It happens...

SamTheOldGoat
14-07-2007, 10:07 AM
Really Oz? Tis' a rakebuilder ;)

PoolKing
14-07-2007, 10:10 AM
I don't usually post bad beats but here is one of the traditional ones from last night, it must be rigged ;)

** Game ID 1496962740 starting - 2007-07-14 00:40:35
** Josset [Hold 'em] (1.00|2.00 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money

- vitamin123 sitting in seat 1 with $180.00
- k_dalglish sitting in seat 2 with $181.54
- bastia92 sitting in seat 3 with $479.00
- Pocketfrodo sitting in seat 4 with $178.05 [Dealer]
- Poolio sitting in seat 5 with $164.76

Poolio posted the small blind - $1.00
vitamin123 posted the big blind - $2.00
** Dealing card to Poolio: Ace of Clubs, Ace of Spades
k_dalglish raised - $8.00
bastia92 folded
Pocketfrodo called - $8.00
Poolio raised - $40.00
vitamin123 folded
k_dalglish raised - $136.00
Pocketfrodo folded
Poolio went all-in - $125.76
k_dalglish called - $165.76

** Dealing the flop: 7 of Spades, 5 of Spades, King of Clubs

** Dealing the turn: 9 of Clubs

** Dealing the river: 5 of Hearts
Poolio shows: Ace of Clubs, Ace of Spades
k_dalglish shows: King of Diamonds, King of Hearts
k_dalglish wins $339.52 from the main pot

End of game 1496962740

SamTheOldGoat
14-07-2007, 10:13 AM
A standard cooler ;)

SamTheOldGoat
14-07-2007, 10:43 AM
Check this. Rain Khan is top 10 in chips at ME.

Here he is 26 tabling on Stars

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X61dIrAmrz4

PoolKing
14-07-2007, 10:56 AM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Here he is 26 tabling on Stars


To play that many tables he is obviously very sharp and a good player but every time I see instances of players multitabling to this extent I wonder why they do it?

It must be very mentally taxing, how long do these guys keep it up for? Also, wouldn't it more more efficient playing a lower number of tables rather than straining yourself so much?

Maybe it's hard for me to get to grips with as I have a slow brain:(