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saul1664
09-08-2007, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by Zola's Chin
Just won my 6th sit n go on the bounce! In one of those runs where if I put my chips in in front, I win. And when I put them in behind... I still win! In the last game I even called a short stack, who'd pushed all-in for 590 when I'd posted a big blind 0f 300, with 45os. He turned over TT... And I still won!!

Isn't poker a great game?!! :D

For the record, my sharkscope is now showing a 46% ROI through 130 games & my form is rated 'Super Hot!' :lux:

If you win 6 consecutive sit and go's on CD Poker ($23 buy in - top 3 get paid) you get a $25,000 bonus!

Zola's Chin
09-08-2007, 11:34 PM
5 x $5 games, 1 x $10.

Am I ready to play $10 regularly yet, Sam?!

Saul, it is only the 'jackpot' sit n go's that pay the bonus. The site takes a bigger percentage of the buy-ins on these games so I no longer play them. Was convinced I could claim the $2k bonus for winning 4 'Dirty Dozen's' on the spin but the closest I got was 2, then beaten heads-up in a 3rd.

Maybe I should try again, the way my luck's running right now!!

samtheeagle
09-08-2007, 11:48 PM
It makes me think that surely there is a way to rig those games! You go in and have a friend playing the same jackpot SNG's who gives you his chips? Surely it isnt impossible to win 25k?

Zola's Chin
09-08-2007, 11:59 PM
They check the hand history before paying out. The kind of collusion you're talking about will be pretty easily detected.

saul1664
10-08-2007, 12:06 AM
Originally posted by Zola's Chin
5 x $5 games, 1 x $10.

Am I ready to play $10 regularly yet, Sam?!

Saul, it is only the 'jackpot' sit n go's that pay the bonus. The site takes a bigger percentage of the buy-ins on these games so I no longer play them. Was convinced I could claim the $2k bonus for winning 4 'Dirty Dozen's' on the spin but the closest I got was 2, then beaten heads-up in a 3rd.

Maybe I should try again, the way my luck's running right now!!

Didn't know if you knew or where you played. I know there is a bigger percentage for the house but pays top 3 out of 6 and if you get 6 2nds in a row or combination of 1sts and 2nds you get $300. Closest I have come is 111224, last game for bonus got AA cracked by 45 or something like that, never got cards or flops in that game...

saul1664
10-08-2007, 12:08 AM
Originally posted by Zola's Chin
5 x $5 games, 1 x $10.

Am I ready to play $10 regularly yet, Sam?!

Saul, it is only the 'jackpot' sit n go's that pay the bonus. The site takes a bigger percentage of the buy-ins on these games so I no longer play them. Was convinced I could claim the $2k bonus for winning 4 'Dirty Dozen's' on the spin but the closest I got was 2, then beaten heads-up in a 3rd.

Maybe I should try again, the way my luck's running right now!!

Play at a level that suits your bankroll, try graduating to $10, if that is unsuccessful just drop back down to $5.

SamTheOldGoat
10-08-2007, 12:39 AM
The stats are extremely impressive Zola, top work mate. Can you tell me your online BR, if you don't want to write here, just PM me :)

Judging by the 'scope' I'd take a shot at some 10$ ones. Congrats again :)

LLCOOLSTEVE
10-08-2007, 01:26 AM
http://www.amazon.com/Professor-Banker-Suicide-King-Richest/dp/0446577693

Anyone read this before??

Finished 23rd out of 808 tonight in an AP tourny tonight, came 15th last night...

SamTheOldGoat
10-08-2007, 09:53 AM
Haven't read it yet but assume it's regarding Andy Beals game against 'The Corporation' including Harman, Ivey etc and the most recent game the corp were down heavy until Ivey came back with an 8 figure win?!

LL, what hand do you like playing with PF?

Finbar
10-08-2007, 10:00 AM
Originally posted by LLCOOLSTEVE
http://www.amazon.com/Professor-Banker-Suicide-King-Richest/dp/0446577693

Anyone read this before??

Finished 23rd out of 808 tonight in an AP tourny tonight, came 15th last night...

Read it last month, very enjoyable light reading

Paul Romain
10-08-2007, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by Zola's Chin
For the record, my sharkscope is now showing a 46% ROI through 130 games & my form is rated 'Super Hot!' :lux:

I just looked at my results (jim5432) on sharkscope and it looks well dodgy. They don't seem to have a lot of my results on there. I usually use www.officialpokerrankings.com when I play and i know that is spot-on with all my finishes accurately recorded and up to date. I wouldnt trust sharkscope if i was trying to suss out the oppo.

Incidentally, who reckons they're the highest ranked player on here? I'm currently at 864 ( a career high lol!) on www.officialpokerrankings.com - anyone beat that?

KevTheOptimist
10-08-2007, 03:06 PM
NEW FISH
NEW FISH
NEW FISH

Paul Romain
10-08-2007, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by KevTheOptimist
NEW FISH
NEW FISH
NEW FISH

???

KevTheOptimist
10-08-2007, 03:54 PM
You're new to the thread so thought I'd introduce you with a prison style chant of 'new fish'.

I'm bored, it's that simple.

Congrats on the stats though, very impressive and for the record I am indeed jealous.

SamTheOldGoat
10-08-2007, 04:12 PM
Sharkscope is 100% accurate from everything I have every done or used SNG wise. OFFICIAL POKER RANKINGS is for MTT tournaments while Sharkscope is for SNGS'. At present there is no records for cash games :)

SamTheOldGoat
10-08-2007, 04:13 PM
JIM5432, what site do you play on?

SamTheOldGoat
10-08-2007, 04:17 PM
PS, can't find your username on OPR?

Paul Romain
10-08-2007, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by KevTheOptimist
You're new to the thread so thought I'd introduce you with a prison style chant of 'new fish'.

I'm bored, it's that simple.

Congrats on the stats though, very impressive and for the record I am indeed jealous.

'oo are ya?
'oo are ya?
'oo are ya?



;)

SamTheOldGoat
10-08-2007, 04:26 PM
What do you play then Paul?

Paul Romain
10-08-2007, 04:31 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
PS, can't find your username on OPR?

Kev obviously found me! I play on Full Tilt

And despite Ke v being jealous of my stats I've just let the side down with some appalling play. My biggest biggest fault combined with my second biggest fault just busted me out of the 7k tourney when sitting pretty

Fault 1 slow playing big hands
Fault 2 going to war with another big stack

So..

sitting 45th of 200 left from 450 starters. 50/100 level 8500 chips

Dealt KQs middle position - standard raised 300 to unopened pot. folded round to BB (12000 chips) who called

Flop comes QQ7 rainbow....what happened next lol!

Ok so made half pot bet hoping he would think I had missed and would use his stack to try and raise me off. He flat called. Not bad so far but then the turn came 3.

At this point I guess I should have taken it down but fault 1 kicked in and I made another small bet which got called again

River comes 4 (no flush) and big stack bets out 2500.

At this point $$$ signs lit up in front of me and in a flash I self destructed with all in reraise

So what did he flip over...?

SamTheOldGoat
10-08-2007, 04:34 PM
77 33 44 OBV ;)

SamTheOldGoat
10-08-2007, 04:35 PM
OZBunky>?

SamTheOldGoat
10-08-2007, 04:36 PM
Well done yesterday, great score. Are you playing in any of the FTOPS events? Never put any $$ on FTP, but will put a couple of g on today I think. The series looks sick, $300r 6 max! JEEEEEEEEEEZ

SamTheOldGoat
10-08-2007, 04:37 PM
Great ROI at 185% :)

Overall OPR Rank: 1,086 of 563,483

Room OPR Rank: 270 of 162,732

Superb stats :D

Paul Romain
10-08-2007, 04:38 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
77 33 44 OBV ;)

Nope!

Paul Romain
10-08-2007, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
77 33 44 OBV ;)

OBV ??

SamTheOldGoat
10-08-2007, 04:42 PM
Jeeeeeeeeeeeeez, must be Q cod then?

Paul Romain
10-08-2007, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Well done yesterday, great score. Are you playing in any of the FTOPS events? Never put any $$ on FTP, but will put a couple of g on today I think. The series looks sick, $300r 6 max! JEEEEEEEEEEZ

Have satellited into the $1000 buyin FTOPS event on Monday night for $24 which is nice (apart from it starting at 2am!) and have satellited into a 150 final qualifier for the $2M Main Event too on Sunday. Will be trying to get into the $2500 buy-in fairly cheaply but it wont be easy!

oz_da II
10-08-2007, 04:43 PM
A well played QA?
Not a stinky played 56? :eek:

SamTheOldGoat
10-08-2007, 04:47 PM
Paul says he self destructs which leads me to belive the other guy scoops so AQ is out of the question.... Jeeeeeeeez if it's 56!

Paul Romain
10-08-2007, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Jeeeeeeeeeeeeez, must be Q cod then?

Q4 suited. Totally my fault of course. If i had bet him out of it on the turn as I should have done. Loose call from him in the BB of course but he was big stack. I had him on maybe a biggish Q if he wasnt assuming I had missed flop, or maybe a small medium pair if he was. Couldnt see AQ cos he would have reraised preflop. Still cant believe I pushed without stopping to think on river though! If I had I would have had to think he might have what you suggested and give it up or at least just call to have a look and stay alive whatever.

Not smart!

SamTheOldGoat
10-08-2007, 04:48 PM
Well done for the satellite Paul. Was that rebuy or a shootout etc? 2am start? Do you have work on Tuesday by any chance? Eeek

SamTheOldGoat
10-08-2007, 04:49 PM
Ach, that's harsh. You say you wish you could have bet him off the turn, but I'm 99% sure he still calls............

Paul Romain
10-08-2007, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Well done for the satellite Paul. Was that rebuy or a shootout etc? 2am start? Do you have work on Tuesday by any chance? Eeek

I steer clear of rebuys. Can't get a read on people at all and it doesnt suit my game

It was an 8 runner $24 satellite with 1 seat to a 23 runner $150 satellite with 2 seats to the $1000 buy in.

SamTheOldGoat
10-08-2007, 04:53 PM
Congrats.

On the off chance do any BBS'ers fancy playing at Big Slick in Croydon or the Full House in Reigate tomorrow night to celebrate our first win of the season? ;)

oz_da II
10-08-2007, 04:53 PM
Yep unlucky, hindsight is a great thing, as I'm thinking now I would have just called, but not sure I would have "just called" in the heat of battle.

oz_da II
10-08-2007, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Ach, that's harsh. You say you wish you could have bet him off the turn, but I'm 99% sure he still calls............

Yeah I can't see too many players giving up that hand.

Paul Romain
10-08-2007, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Ach, that's harsh. You say you wish you could have bet him off the turn, but I'm 99% sure he still calls............

mmm...maybe. But don't forget i was biggish stack too so if I had gone all in he has to call and hope I don't have a Q - if i have it he's beaten and down to 3000 chips. Once the 4 hits on river he pretty much knows he's good. You probably right though...his pre-flop call suggests he wasnt a good enough player to lay down QQQ

Paul Romain
10-08-2007, 05:00 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Congrats.

On the off chance do any BBS'ers fancy playing at Big Slick in Croydon or the Full House in Reigate tomorrow night to celebrate our first win of the season? ;)

I only discovered Big Slick existed yesterday when it was mentioned in a poker mag I was reading. Was going to go up and have a look at some stage as I am only down the road in South Croydon - whats it like?

Cant manage tomorrow as I have that other satellite i've qualified for at 11pm - and i have to drive back from Southampton first!!

se1eagle
10-08-2007, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Congrats.

On the off chance do any BBS'ers fancy playing at Big Slick in Croydon or the Full House in Reigate tomorrow night to celebrate our first win of the season? ;)

I'd love to play but can't make tomorrow night unfortunately.

I'm well chuffed with how my poker's going currently since I've been watching more CR videos so apologies in advance for a braggy post ;) My bankroll now stands at $1650 (from an initial deposit of 20 on Ladbrokes back in December 06) and am at last going to try moving up to 50NL over the weekend! I'm no Brian Townsend but it's coming good at last!

Over the last 9322 25NL hands I'm running at 13.3BB/100 - I've had some luck but using a piece of software called PokerEV my 'equity adjusted' winrate is 8.5BB/100 which I'm very happy with. Over this period I'm 20.37/14.19/2.61 so I should probably be raising a little more preflop but all-in-all I feel like I'm finally improving!

KevTheOptimist
10-08-2007, 07:31 PM
Great work, but what to you mean by 50NL you dont mean 25/50 surely?

SOrry for being dim.

Also, be careful about stepping up as although it has to be done, why stop a good thing?

KevTheOptimist
10-08-2007, 07:32 PM
And the big slick is a very nice airy poker club. Dealer dealt tables, friendly locals and at times some terrible play.

se1eagle
10-08-2007, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by KevTheOptimist
Great work, but what to you mean by 50NL you dont mean 25/50 surely?


I wish! 50NL is No Limit 0.25/0.50c - I'm over-rolled to play it now but wanted to be overrolled before my next attempt to move up to make me feel a bit more comfortable with the increased bet sizes

LLCOOLSTEVE
10-08-2007, 08:12 PM
Ace high flush just beaten by a straight flush

lol

:/

DANCOO
10-08-2007, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by Paul Romain
Kev obviously found me! I play on Full Tilt

And despite Ke v being jealous of my stats I've just let the side down with some appalling play. My biggest biggest fault combined with my second biggest fault just busted me out of the 7k tourney when sitting pretty

Fault 1 slow playing big hands
Fault 2 going to war with another big stack

So..

sitting 45th of 200 left from 450 starters. 50/100 level 8500 chips

Dealt KQs middle position - standard raised 300 to unopened pot. folded round to BB (12000 chips) who called

Flop comes QQ7 rainbow....what happened next lol!

Ok so made half pot bet hoping he would think I had missed and would use his stack to try and raise me off. He flat called. Not bad so far but then the turn came 3.

At this point I guess I should have taken it down but fault 1 kicked in and I made another small bet which got called again

River comes 4 (no flush) and big stack bets out 2500.

At this point $$$ signs lit up in front of me and in a flash I self destructed with all in reraise

So what did he flip over...?

Without seeing any answers, 77?

Paul Romain
10-08-2007, 09:37 PM
Originally posted by DANCOO
Without seeing any answers, 77?

a reasonable guess but ...if you havent already looked back....Q4s

DANCOO
10-08-2007, 09:40 PM
Oh, ul.

DANCOO
11-08-2007, 12:07 AM
Just played my first serious hold'em tourney for ages. I've played the odd $5 or $10 MTT, but I tend not to take them too seriously.

$25 f/0 $3.5gtd. 174 players.

Just went out in 16th, got my money back and a couple of $'s more.

Played solid throughout, although my aggressiveness in certain situations is really lacking, just need to figure out exactly where.

Always feels quite strange only being dealt two cards. :)

SamTheOldGoat
11-08-2007, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by KevTheOptimist
And the big slick is a very nice airy poker club. Dealer dealt tables, friendly locals and at times some terrible play.

Agree, nice atmosphere, horrific play, only ever made final 2 tables at least when I've played there, and that's not from getting lucky ;) Play is POOOOOOOOOOR

SamTheOldGoat
11-08-2007, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by Paul Romain
mmm...maybe. But don't forget i was biggish stack too so if I had gone all in he has to call and hope I don't have a Q - if i have it he's beaten and down to 3000 chips. Once the 4 hits on river he pretty much knows he's good. You probably right though...his pre-flop call suggests he wasnt a good enough player to lay down QQQ

If he's bad enough to call the raise P.F, he's looking to hit the board HEAVY, which he does, hence why imo he's never passing :)

SamTheOldGoat
11-08-2007, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by se1eagle
I'd love to play but can't make tomorrow night unfortunately.

I'm well chuffed with how my poker's going currently since I've been watching more CR videos so apologies in advance for a braggy post ;) My bankroll now stands at $1650 (from an initial deposit of 20 on Ladbrokes back in December 06) and am at last going to try moving up to 50NL over the weekend! I'm no Brian Townsend but it's coming good at last!

Over the last 9322 25NL hands I'm running at 13.3BB/100 - I've had some luck but using a piece of software called PokerEV my 'equity adjusted' winrate is 8.5BB/100 which I'm very happy with. Over this period I'm 20.37/14.19/2.61 so I should probably be raising a little more preflop but all-in-all I feel like I'm finally improving!

Jeeeeeeeeeez, 13.3 BB! Great stuff SE1, well impressed but how it's been going for you. How long has it taken you to build up to that? Definitely sufficiently rolled for 50nl, the play there is generally horrific so I hope you'll keep building at a rapid pace :) How have you felt the CR material has helped you chap? Whose your fave vid author and do you have a favourite vid? I'm trying to get through the PLO ones now :) My friend who plays 5/10 etc for a living reckons Taylor has the best vids and isn't a fan of Stingers analysis. GOing to try and watch 4 before the foootie!

So your up for a game sometime in the next few weeks at reigate or Big Slick?

DANCOO
11-08-2007, 11:42 AM
Trying to think back, the biggest difference I noticed was when moving up from $0.50/$1.00 to $1.00/$2.00 - not sure if it was psychological or not, but I really struggled.

SamTheOldGoat
11-08-2007, 12:34 PM
I think I agree with you Dan, imo, 2/4 and 3/6 are easier than 1/2 as crazy as that will sound....

SamTheOldGoat
11-08-2007, 10:57 PM
Some quotes I read recently, quite American but I read American forums so amused me :)

a) When sitting in a meeting, your one spot right of the boss and you consider yourself in the cutoff
b) You tell the waitress to "ship it!" after you order
c) You are eating dinner with your parents and you tell your mom the necklace she is wearing is balla
d) Zit faced teenager at the cash at McDonalds says, "that's 7.34", and you reply with, "I call"
e) When you're counting (anything) and the progression is "8 ... 9 ... 10 ... Jack ... Queen"

Paul Romain
12-08-2007, 01:46 AM
Wahaay - just won my satellite into the $500 Main Event $2Million guaranteed on Full Tilt next weekend! Already satellited into the $1000 buy in on Monday (for $24 each) and have a final qualifier to the $2500 buyin event on Friday.

This time next week I should be able to afford a pacy striker :p

Zola's Chin
12-08-2007, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
The stats are extremely impressive Zola, top work mate. Can you tell me your online BR, if you don't want to write here, just PM me :)

Judging by the 'scope' I'd take a shot at some 10$ ones. Congrats again :)

My cd poker balance currently reads 134.34.

SamTheOldGoat
12-08-2007, 01:15 PM
I think taking a shot at 10 dollar games is fine Zola, let me know how you get on pal :)

SamTheOldGoat
12-08-2007, 01:16 PM
Good luck Paul, won't play in the 1k one so will rail you but should join you in the 500, all the best in the final qualifier too :)

se1eagle
12-08-2007, 01:49 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Jeeeeeeeeeez, 13.3 BB! Great stuff SE1, well impressed but how it's been going for you. How long has it taken you to build up to that? Definitely sufficiently rolled for 50nl, the play there is generally horrific so I hope you'll keep building at a rapid pace :) How have you felt the CR material has helped you chap? Whose your fave vid author and do you have a favourite vid? I'm trying to get through the PLO ones now :) My friend who plays 5/10 etc for a living reckons Taylor has the best vids and isn't a fan of Stingers analysis. GOing to try and watch 4 before the foootie!

So your up for a game sometime in the next few weeks at reigate or Big Slick?

Thanks Sam! That 9000 hands is over the last 2.5 months so not been playing that often but had holidays etc. The CR material is great - after watching so many top pros ramming often very similar concepts into your head, eventually the info seeps through! Brystmar's low limit series is superb, and helped me establish some basic fundamentals which have really improved my cash game.

Taylor's videos are superb - however for a low limit TAG person like me a lot of the LAG plays he makes are positively counter-productive at my level as few people can fold. I love watching Taylor's/Brian's videos for understanding concepts and entertainment, and there are always a few nuggets of gold (like reraising more out of position) - however I generally find the lower limit TAG videos (brystmar/fruity etc) help me most at the levels I play. Either way I generally watch them all!

There's an excellent recent video Green Plastic #71 where Taylor gets in a lot of tough spots and starts to tilt - very interesting.

I also actually really like muddywater's videos - he's clearly not at the same level as Brian/Taylor but that's a good thing in terms of the videos - I find he teaches very reasoned ABC poker which is good for me.

For PLO I really like stinger's and sbrugby's videos but I feel CR lacks the same PLO beginner's resources like it has for NLHE - I'd like to get better but I don't really want to risk any of my bankroll on Omaha.

Definitely up for a few live games soon!

SamTheOldGoat
12-08-2007, 01:59 PM
Great. Thanks for the informative post SE1 :) I like Stingers PLO videos tbh, definitely hvae a look at him playing 1/2 :) Haven't watched Brystmars series so will aim to watch them this week, and will also see Taylors no 71 :)

Watched a couple of Muddywater sngs I think, both were very good and highly informative :)

KevTheOptimist
12-08-2007, 04:21 PM
Where do you watch these vids?

SamTheOldGoat
12-08-2007, 04:59 PM
You have to sign up to Cardrunners Kev :)

Paul Romain
12-08-2007, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Good luck Paul, won't play in the 1k one so will rail you but should join you in the 500, all the best in the final qualifier too :)

$300 tourney tonight - just about to take a shot at the $69 satellite. wasnt going to play but cant resist it (thought if i don't bother it will be the one i was fated to win!)

SamTheOldGoat
12-08-2007, 08:11 PM
Ok, gl, I'll watch if you don't mind, what's your username on FTP? Don't think I'll play tonight as up at 6am tomorrow :(

Paul Romain
12-08-2007, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Good luck Paul, won't play in the 1k one so will rail you but should join you in the 500, all the best in the final qualifier too :)

whats your player name Sam?

Paul Romain
12-08-2007, 08:14 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Ok, gl, I'll watch if you don't mind, what's your username on FTP? Don't think I'll play tonight as up at 6am tomorrow :(

haha - i've never had a supporter before! jim5432

KevTheOptimist
12-08-2007, 08:27 PM
I've decided I'm gonna play some big tournies this weekend - bigger I should say, maybe $50 buy ins or so. As a warm up and a bit of practive I'm playing the player points freeroll on laddies, 500 runners and first is $500 ish.

I'll let you know how I get on!

KevTheOptimist
12-08-2007, 08:27 PM
P.s. Good luck Paul!

SamTheOldGoat
12-08-2007, 08:28 PM
Eeeek, gl you need some chips quick! :)

Paul Romain
12-08-2007, 08:29 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Eeeek, gl you need some chips quick! :)

JJ couldnt call all reraise with A on flop

KevTheOptimist
12-08-2007, 08:30 PM
You recommend card runners people? Is it worth signing up to?

Paul Romain
12-08-2007, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Eeeek, gl you need some chips quick! :)
plenty time - people panic too much in these short levels satellites

SamTheOldGoat
12-08-2007, 08:45 PM
Great structure on FTP, never seen that before. :)

Yes Kev, COMPLETELY worth it :)

KevTheOptimist
12-08-2007, 08:47 PM
You get the 1st level membership $9.99 p/m or the $24.99 option?

Really cant see me paying for either lol

Paul Romain
12-08-2007, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by Paul Romain
plenty time - people panic too much in these short levels satellites

nightmare - that jj is the only playable hand ive had

Paul Romain
12-08-2007, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by Paul Romain
nightmare - that jj is the only playable hand ive had

oh well - cant win them all

Paul Romain
12-08-2007, 09:16 PM
that was a tricky satellite struggling to find playable hand.

Once I had reraised preflop with JJ and had my cont bet raised allin I was always playing catch up. managed to double back to 1300 chips with JJ again but after that couldnt catch cards.

lot of early position raising meant it was always impossible to call with marginal hands when I was so short i would be committing and only got chance to steal two blindswith rags when it was folded to me in small blind.

That kept me in the game but then I got moved to table with big stacks behind me. I was always going to get called so I tried to represent monster by raising half a short stack from the small blind and pushing the rest on any flop. BB flopped top pair though and that was it

SamTheOldGoat
13-08-2007, 05:25 PM
Freeroll on VIRGIN POKER tonight for 10 100 seats in a live tourny in Broadway/Birmingham. Anyone wants p.word, just post up here :)

RichieG
13-08-2007, 06:25 PM
You got me going there Sam, had been wanting to play this, but it's tomorrow night!

Still I've downloaded the Virgin client now so I'll try the 19.30 freeroll tonight to get used to the software! Only problem is that if I go deep tomorrow, I'm supposed to be picking the missus up from the airport at 22.30!!

SamTheOldGoat
13-08-2007, 08:34 PM
Lol, she can wait ;)

Sorry mate, it's tomorrow, was an 888 Pacific freeroll tonight for a seat in final to get into the TV hotseat! There are WSOPU ME seats in a few days if anyone wants freeroll info :)

saul1664
14-08-2007, 01:13 AM
I never seem to do well on Poker Stars. Anyway 1,600+ runner tourney, blinds start at 1,500, have about 1000. Get KK in early position, with two limpers, raise to 350, get 5 callers.

Flop comes AK7 (two diamonds), figure at least one must be on flush draw so push all in with remaining $650, as no matter what I am pot committed. Two callers one has the flush draw with A6, the other has AA!

Flush comes out on the turn, but a K on the river gives me quads!

Get up to 18K, blinds 800/1600 when I get AQ suited, raise to 3200, and get called all in, costing me 6K more to go, which will leave me 8.5K left if I lose. I call and run into KK. At this stage about 150 runners left, and I was in about 60th, this pushed me to 125th. Is this a fair call to make. If I win the hand I am in a good chance to win the tourney, folding left me with about 14K.

Have about 5.5K left when getting AK, one raiser before me, I push all in and get two all ins behind me, also the other guy calls. He turns over AJ, the other guy turns over 88, and typically the other one calls with AA and I go out in 123rd or something. Had a chance at the gutshot straight but missed.

Have also made a great laydown in cash game, of KK on a J 7 5 board, would have been up against AA.

Paul Romain
14-08-2007, 04:20 AM
Squeaky bum time. 30 away from cashing in the $1000buyin full tilt tourney - short stacked....

Paul Romain
14-08-2007, 04:29 AM
but two double throughs later and we're cooking....quite happy already with WSOP bracelet winners behind me. not often i beat Ram Vaswami lol

Paul Romain
14-08-2007, 04:48 AM
having the tournament leader on my left shoulder for the last two hours hasnt helped..

Paul Romain
14-08-2007, 05:05 AM
and the adventure is over. pushed from the button with KQs and ran straight into the tournament leader holding KK. Flopped a Q but another one didnt arrive and that was it. Well chuffed though finishing 118th out of nearly 1300 for $1800 in my first major tournament - with a host of massive names like de Wolfe, Vaswami, D'Agostino, Matusow, Bloch, Schoenberg behind me. Unbelievable tense playing at that level for that sort of prize money - i have a severe headache!!

KevTheOptimist
14-08-2007, 07:57 AM
Originally posted by Paul Romain
and the adventure is over. pushed from the button with KQs and ran straight into the tournament leader holding KK. Flopped a Q but another one didnt arrive and that was it. Well chuffed though finishing 118th out of nearly 1300 for $1800 in my first major tournament - with a host of massive names like de Wolfe, Vaswami, D'Agostino, Matusow, Bloch, Schoenberg behind me. Unbelievable tense playing at that level for that sort of prize money - i have a severe headache!!

:lux: :lux:

A great effort - it is a bit gutting to have a big chip leader to your left as it forces you to play a bit tighter when really you would like the freedom to play some slightly 'different' hands from time to time without the fear of a re raise all the time.

My worst trait in cash is having a big stack to my left - I quite often get up and sit at another table if the guy to my left starts getting really deep stacked, obviously it's different for a tourney.

Paul Romain
14-08-2007, 08:40 AM
Originally posted by KevTheOptimist
:lux: :lux:

A great effort - it is a bit gutting to have a big chip leader to your left as it forces you to play a bit tighter when really you would like the freedom to play some slightly 'different' hands from time to time without the fear of a re raise all the time.

My worst trait in cash is having a big stack to my left - I quite often get up and sit at another table if the guy to my left starts getting really deep stacked, obviously it's different for a tourney.

The worst thing was that he was a rubbish player as well - I checked him out on onlinepokerrankings early on. He was a really loose caller and folder but the problem was you could never really be sure what he was holding. He lucked out a couple of times on people and turned a big stack into a monster stack and then just start playing everything. Trying to steal blinds was fraught with danger because he kept raising me allin if i tried - I was determined to play sensibly and not get allin unless I was sure I was well ahead so it made it really hard to eke out a decent stack with him there all the time. Still am not unhappy with the outcome even though the initial euphoria has now been replaced with "what if" - I was called with KJ instead of KK....

And I've still got the $2M Main Event on Sunday :-)

Paul Romain
14-08-2007, 08:43 AM
I should have added that he had crashed down the placings to about 60th within about ten minutes of my busting out! I'd been waiting for that all night!

Paul Romain
14-08-2007, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Freeroll on VIRGIN POKER tonight for 10 100 seats in a live tourny in Broadway/Birmingham. Anyone wants p.word, just post up here :)

just registered - see you there

RichieG
14-08-2007, 01:07 PM
What are everyone's usernames on Virgin, who's playing the freeroll later? I am RichieG76

Paul Romain
14-08-2007, 01:11 PM
jim5432 - your best bet is just fold when you see me :-)

RichieG
14-08-2007, 01:13 PM
Must say I really don't like the Virgin software in comparison to Ladbrokes - I think I'll be using the "uninstall" feature pretty quickly if I don't make the final 2 tables tonight!!

GeeTee
14-08-2007, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by RichieG
What are everyone's usernames on Virgin, who's playing the freeroll later? I am RichieG76

LimpDaddy

SamTheOldGoat
14-08-2007, 05:15 PM
WP Paul, you satellited into ME? 2500 buy in isn't it?

Playing tonight on Virgin at ShipItAllPlzFish. Someone come rail me if your in the tourny too ;)

SamTheOldGoat
14-08-2007, 05:16 PM
I lie, my username is DiePlzFish

Paul Romain
14-08-2007, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
WP Paul, you satellited into ME? 2500 buy in isn't it?

Playing tonight on Virgin at ShipItAllPlzFish. Someone come rail me if your in the tourny too ;)

the ME is 500 in and a 2M pool. the 2500 buyin is the 2day event on Sat/Sun - havent got into that yet but i got thru to the final qualifier on Friday night

im in the virgin tonight as jim5432

gjtango
14-08-2007, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Freeroll on VIRGIN POKER tonight for 10 100 seats in a live tourny in Broadway/Birmingham. Anyone wants p.word, just post up here :)

I'll have the password please!

SamTheOldGoat
14-08-2007, 05:49 PM
VirginPlayer GJ, stick your username up her e:)

SamTheOldGoat
14-08-2007, 05:50 PM
Heres SBRUGBY aba20 Brian Townsends latest graph for 300/600 NL HU. Pretty sick considering he's known as the best NL player online in the world!
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/309/lossdt0.png

SamTheOldGoat
14-08-2007, 05:51 PM
Originally posted by Paul Romain
the ME is 500 in and a 2M pool. the 2500 buyin is the 2day event on Sat/Sun - havent got into that yet but i got thru to the final qualifier on Friday night

im in the virgin tonight as jim5432

Cool, well GL in that, I'll play so will let you know my new username before then. All the best tonight :)

gjtango
14-08-2007, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
VirginPlayer GJ, stick your username up her e:)

Will sign up in about an hour. About to leave from a mates go home and eat!

SamTheOldGoat
14-08-2007, 05:55 PM
Reg finishes in less than 30 mins.

SamTheOldGoat
14-08-2007, 06:28 PM
GL CPFC players, keep updated on here how your doing

SamTheOldGoat
14-08-2007, 06:30 PM
what table are people on?

SamTheOldGoat
14-08-2007, 07:02 PM
Just made a great river call. Called a raise with 89hh, flop blank, turn blank, river blank, I check every street. He bets pot on river as the button, use time bank up and think about the hand. Turns over KQ. Ty, 1k over starting stack

gjtango
14-08-2007, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by gjtango
Will sign up in about an hour. About to leave from a mates go home and eat!

Damn! Any other freerolls post em up here in the future.

Paul Romain
14-08-2007, 07:07 PM
i'm hating the virgin site . all fingers and thumbs! and i am trying to find palace match on net. i dont think i am concentrating with no money on it lol

GeeTee
14-08-2007, 07:14 PM
Damn. I didn't register in time. I have an eight week old son and sometimes you just forget what the time is!

SamTheOldGoat
14-08-2007, 07:16 PM
Just flopped a house with 99 on a 977 board, up to 4.1k from 1.5 starting stack.

Know waht you mean Paul but 10 100 seats into a live tourny that you can only get in through playing online :)

SamTheOldGoat
14-08-2007, 07:17 PM
WSOPE ME freeroll tomorrow, will find details and post tomorrow evening.

RichieG
14-08-2007, 07:18 PM
I would have registered on time, if Virgin wasn't so sh1te. Uninstalled and not impressed - gonna try and win myself $200 on Laddies instead so I can buy in direct!

SamTheOldGoat
14-08-2007, 07:20 PM
DiePlzFshl [9h, 9c]
N1CKO1 [N/A, N/A]
AcesUK1987 [N/A, N/A]
DUX180 [N/A, N/A]
_Matarife [N/A, N/A]
loulou34 [N/A, N/A]
*** Bet Round 1 ***
N1CKO1 Raise to 600.00
AcesUK1987 Fold
DUX180 Fold
_Matarife Fold
loulou34 Fold
miramar Fold
dog dodger Fold
Pete19781 Fold
teenage37 Fold
DiePlzFshl Raise to 1050.00
N1CKO1 All-in 1385.00
DiePlzFshl Call 1385.00
*** Flop(Board): *** : [9d, 7c, 7s]
*** Turn(Board): *** : [9d, 7c, 7s, Ad]
*** River(Board): *** : [9d, 7c, 7s, Ad, Ks]
*** Showdown *** : Rake: 0.00 Total Pot: 2845.00
miramar Fold Win: 0.00
dog dodger Fold Win: 0.00
Pete19781 Fold Win: 0.00
teenage37 Fold Win: 0.00
DiePlzFshl [9h, 9c] Full house Win: 2845.00
N1CKO1 [Ah, Jc] Two pair aces and sevens Win: 0.00
AcesUK1987 Fold Win: 0.00
DUX180 Fold Win: 0.00
_Matarife Fold Win: 0.00
loulou34 Fold Win: 0.00

SamTheOldGoat
14-08-2007, 07:21 PM
Buy in for what Richie?

Paul Romain
14-08-2007, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Just flopped a house with 99 on a 977 board, up to 4.1k from 1.5 starting stack.

Know waht you mean Paul but 10 100 seats into a live tourny that you can only get in through playing online :)

i'm struggling against barmy callers!

down to 400

SamTheOldGoat
14-08-2007, 07:22 PM
Such a fish limping m-p with 89hh ;)

** Bet Round 1 ***
dog dodger Fold
Pete19781 Fold
Sp00neyG Fold
DiePlzFshl Call 50.00
N1CKO1 Fold
iansharpe Fold
DUX180 Fold
_Matarife Raise to 200.00
loulou34 Fold
miramar Fold
DiePlzFshl Call 200.00
*** Flop(Board): *** : [4d, 2c, 10s]
*** Bet Round 2 ***
DiePlzFshl Check
_Matarife Check
*** Turn(Board): *** : [4d, 2c, 10s, 2s]
*** Bet Round 3 ***
DiePlzFshl Check
_Matarife Check
*** River(Board): *** : [4d, 2c, 10s, 2s, 8c]
*** Bet Round 4 ***
DiePlzFshl Check
_Matarife Bet 300.00
DiePlzFshl Call 300.00
*** Showdown *** : Rake: 0.00 Total Pot: 1075.00
miramar Fold Win: 0.00
dog dodger Fold Win: 0.00
Pete19781 Fold Win: 0.00
Sp00neyG Fold Win: 0.00
DiePlzFshl [8h, 9h] Two pair eights and deuces Win: 1075.00
N1CKO1 Fold Win: 0.00
iansharpe Fold Win: 0.00
DUX180 Fold Win: 0.00
_Matarife [Ks, Qc] Pair of deuces Win: 0.00

Paul Romain
14-08-2007, 07:22 PM
up to 850 again

SamTheOldGoat
14-08-2007, 07:23 PM
Only played 3 hands in 55 mins, zzzzzzzz

SamTheOldGoat
14-08-2007, 07:23 PM
Paul, what tbale@?

Paul Romain
14-08-2007, 07:24 PM
up to 1812

SamTheOldGoat
14-08-2007, 07:25 PM
Ya, I see but cant work out how to open other tables?

Paul Romain
14-08-2007, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Paul, what tbale@?
no idea - can't see number! where is it?

Paul Romain
14-08-2007, 07:28 PM
got it - no28. middle column in lobby and click go to table

SamTheOldGoat
14-08-2007, 07:29 PM
Nice little flop!

DiePlzFshl [10d, Kd]

** Flop(Board): *** : [Qd, Ks, 5d]
*** Bet Round 2 ***
dog dodger Check
DrOwl Bet 300.00
DiePlzFshl Raise to 900.00
dog dodger Fold
DrOwl Fold

SamTheOldGoat
14-08-2007, 07:31 PM
Cut off raise, FC on button, again a nice flop for me, let's hope it continues

DiePlzFshl [As, 10s]
teenage37 Raise to 600.00
DiePlzFshl Call 600.00
charliebea Fold
AcesUK1987 Fold
*** Flop(Board): *** : [10d, 7h, 7d]
*** Bet Round 2 ***
teenage37 Check
DiePlzFshl Bet 799.00
teenage37 Fold
*** Showdown *** : Rake: 0.00 Total Pot: 1500.00

Paul Romain
14-08-2007, 07:31 PM
i really hate this site! its not popping up the window when its my bet and I keep missing turn whilst checking palace score lol !!

SamTheOldGoat
14-08-2007, 07:35 PM
lol, it's running fine on my PC, said hello to you on your table ;)

GeeTee
14-08-2007, 07:38 PM
Oh Sam

Paul Romain
14-08-2007, 07:41 PM
i was making coffee

SamTheOldGoat
14-08-2007, 07:43 PM
PMSL, knew the button wasn't strong, didn't think some guy would do half his stack well 3.5k more with 10 K, lol, maybe freerolls aren't my thing. Back to cash, gg

SamTheOldGoat
14-08-2007, 07:45 PM
Can't open final HH, boooooooooo

SamTheOldGoat
14-08-2007, 07:53 PM
New table Paul/Jim?

Paul Romain
14-08-2007, 07:55 PM
yeah

GeeTee
14-08-2007, 07:57 PM
38 - go Paul.

Paul Romain
14-08-2007, 07:59 PM
good laydown! 10 10

SamTheOldGoat
14-08-2007, 08:00 PM
LOL@ the blinds

Paul Romain
14-08-2007, 08:03 PM
imnot laughing!

SamTheOldGoat
14-08-2007, 08:13 PM
nice mid raise utg+! wtih 89! Doing well now Paul, M of 8 and your table chip leader!

Paul Romain
14-08-2007, 08:16 PM
these blind levels are crippling

SamTheOldGoat
14-08-2007, 08:17 PM
Indeed, worst structure ever!

Paul Romain
14-08-2007, 08:25 PM
last legs

SamTheOldGoat
14-08-2007, 08:27 PM
Was goign to say you have to shove BB and you wake up with kings! Nice :)

SamTheOldGoat
14-08-2007, 08:27 PM
err,,, why are you sitting out?

SamTheOldGoat
14-08-2007, 08:29 PM
Back! :)

Paul Romain
14-08-2007, 08:31 PM
this is like last nights rearguard action!

Paul Romain
14-08-2007, 08:32 PM
i wanna be chip leader....waaaaaah!!!

SamTheOldGoat
14-08-2007, 08:32 PM
The muck and deck of cards are confusing too...

Paul Romain
14-08-2007, 08:36 PM
the whole thing is awful

Paul Romain
14-08-2007, 08:40 PM
i'm flagging - lack of sleep!

crazy structure tho - allin poker from very early doors . just no scope to play people

SamTheOldGoat
14-08-2007, 08:47 PM
No scope at all but nice double up wtih aces :)

Paul Romain
14-08-2007, 08:50 PM
KK and AA at VERY opportune moments.

SamTheOldGoat
14-08-2007, 08:55 PM
qq v jj :(

SamTheOldGoat
14-08-2007, 08:55 PM
qq v jj :(

SamTheOldGoat
14-08-2007, 08:55 PM
Make same play all day long Jim/Paul, nice hit ;)

Paul Romain
14-08-2007, 09:09 PM
was always folding - just making himsweat a bit

SamTheOldGoat
14-08-2007, 09:18 PM
:D

You've had some great cards and a hit right when you've needed them, perfect

SamTheOldGoat
14-08-2007, 09:20 PM
STOP.....


BUBBLE TIME

Paul Romain
14-08-2007, 09:46 PM
falling asleep.....yawn

SamTheOldGoat
14-08-2007, 09:58 PM
Congrats on the seat Paul.Jimm you played really well. See you in Birmingham chap :)

Paul Romain
14-08-2007, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Congrats on the seat Paul.Jimm you played really well. See you in Birmingham chap :)

Absolutely hilarious - all that time and then I got disconnected and missed myself qualify!! Good job I was safe in 2nd!

Didnt enjoy that one bit though! Bloody hard work!

Suppose I will have to practise live play now haha!

Paul Romain
14-08-2007, 10:05 PM
pity the WSOP isnt next week - I can't seem to do anything wrong at the moment!

Strathclyde Eagle
14-08-2007, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
STOP.....


BUBBLE TIME
:D

Can't touch this. :cool:

gjtango
14-08-2007, 11:34 PM
I just lost an all in all of AK suited hearts to 8Q offsuit, guy had 2 pair and there were two hearts that came on the flop! Hand before I lost a flush draw when 3 clubs were out (I had 2 in my hand), then a 4th on the river. The guy beat me as he had an ace of clubs! :bash: :bash:

oz_da II
14-08-2007, 11:43 PM
Originally posted by gjtango
Hand before I lost a flush draw when 3 clubs were out (I had 2 in my hand), then a 4th on the river. The guy beat me as he had an ace of clubs! :bash: :bash:

That's not a flush draw, that's a made flush, unlucky anyway.

se1eagle
14-08-2007, 11:48 PM
Well after losing 3 buyins my shot at 50NL is over and now I've moved back down to 25NL and immediately won $50 back. Frustrating but hoping to 'rinse and repeat' until I can stay at 50NL.

Gotta love this hand at my table last night:-

FullTiltPoker Game #3243754153: Table Selkirk (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:39:10 ET - 2007/08/13
Seat 1: bigace224 ($40.10)
Seat 2: samgol101 ($50.70)
Seat 3: specialk6003 ($50.25)
Seat 4: TwelveBeers ($73.45)
Seat 5: razzie2006 ($45.35)
Seat 6: Gluteus ($50.75)
razzie2006 posts the small blind of $0.25
Gluteus posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Gluteus [Jc 4h]
bigace224 has 15 seconds left to act
bigace224 folds
samgol101 calls $0.50
specialk6003 raises to $5
TwelveBeers calls $5
razzie2006 folds
Gluteus folds
samgol101 folds
*** FLOP *** [Qs Js 7h]
specialk6003 bets $7
TwelveBeers calls $7
*** TURN *** [Qs Js 7h] [7c]
specialk6003 bets $15
TwelveBeers has 15 seconds left to act
TwelveBeers raises to $61.45, and is all in
specialk6003 calls $23.25, and is all in
TwelveBeers shows [Kd Kh]
specialk6003 shows [7s 4c]
Uncalled bet of $23.20 returned to TwelveBeers
*** RIVER *** [Qs Js 7h 7c] [6d]
TwelveBeers shows two pair, Kings and Sevens
specialk6003 shows three of a kind, Sevens
specialk6003 wins the pot ($98.75) with three of a kind, Sevens
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $101.75 | Rake $3
Board: [Qs Js 7h 7c 6d]
Seat 1: bigace224 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: samgol101 folded before the Flop
Seat 3: specialk6003 showed [7s 4c] and won ($98.75) with three of a kind, Sevens
Seat 4: TwelveBeers (button) showed [Kd Kh] and lost with two pair, Kings and Sevens
Seat 5: razzie2006 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: Gluteus (big blind) folded before the Flop

gjtango
15-08-2007, 02:13 AM
Just went out pocket 33s to AJ- hit A on river!

oz_da II
15-08-2007, 05:43 AM
Originally posted by gjtango
Just went out pocket 33s to AJ- hit A on river!

You're only a very slight favourite pre-flop. 52ish/48ish

RichieG
15-08-2007, 08:05 AM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Buy in for what Richie?

Doh, I thought you could buy-in direct, but as you obviously already know, it's online quaification only.

I really fancy the live gig, but I can't cope with Virgin's crappy software - or the fact that despite registering and playing on Mon night, the site wouldn't allow me to log-on last night (or request a password reminder) so by the time I'd created a new user, I'd missed the registration (even though I got on 1.5 mins before tourney start!).

Do you know of any other reasonable buy-in slow-structure live events? I really fancy playing a slow live tourney, as the 10r at the Rendezvous tends annoy the hell out of me with all the gamblers just chucking chips in. BR doesn't extend above 100 for one event really. (and even that would have to be called taking a shot!)

Paul Romain
15-08-2007, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by RichieG
I really fancy the live gig, but I can't cope with Virgin's crappy software

I had a lot of trouble with the software last night.

When I first logged in I had no sound - which I find really off putting. Then sound suddenly appeared when I was moved tables.

The "slider" to raise seemed temperamental and I almost got timed out when I had a couple of big hands whilst I was faffing about trying to make a bet.

the game window also wouldnt pop-up when it was my bet - which meant I missed countless turns whilst I was away checking the shambles at bristol rovers. (also rather embarrassingly i missed a turn when I got distracted by the radio announcing Barnet had launched a comeback at norwich lol!)

I had to keep switching windows to see where I was standing in the competition - had to switch from chat to stats constantly to see when the blinds were due to move.

And as for the blind structure.....ffs!! if you blinked they doubled and it was all in poker for about 4 hours!

Having said that the structure made it a really useful learning exercise. You had to be really disciplined in picking spots to push and being patient - a lot of the time I only had about 3 big blinds left and yet was placed in the middle of the field.

Overall I found the whole experience thoroughly unenjoyable apart from actually winning a seat at the main event! (and I did luck out waking up with AA, KK at crucial moments - and QQ altho that got busted by JJ and almost broke me just before the bubble!)

I doubt i will be back to Virgin Poker unless they sort it out

On the plus side I just realised the prize was a 100 seat to a 7500 guarantee and not a $100 one to $7500! Thats cheered me up!

RichieG
15-08-2007, 11:41 AM
Congrats on the seat Paul!

Paul Romain
15-08-2007, 11:41 AM
Originally posted by RichieG
Congrats on the seat Paul!

thanks

RichieG
15-08-2007, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by gjtango
Just went out pocket 33s to AJ- hit A on river!

Call me a cynic, but low PP's only hold up when someone else is holding them to my AK!!! ;)

Paul Romain
15-08-2007, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by RichieG
Call me a cynic, but low PP's only hold up when someone else is holding them to my AK!!! ;)

I had a run a couple of weeks back when I lost about 10 coinflips on the bounce - didnt matter if i had the pair or the overcards - the other one won!

It happens - the trick in tourneys is to only get yourself in the coinflip if you have to or if you have callers and/or the bettor well covered. Always better to be the raiser not the caller and i never ever get into a flip early doors - some people prefer to double or bust but I think if you have confidence in your ability there will always be a better time to get your chips in later. Few early doublers last the course anyway

RichieG
15-08-2007, 12:06 PM
Agree totally with your sentiments there Paul, my comment was tongue in cheek......

Anyway, do any of you cash specialists think I should have folded this flop? Or am I just being a bit too results orientated? Last two AA hands have cost me my stack!!

** Game ID 809750829 starting - 2007-08-14 21:51:27
** Adrasteia [Hold em] (0.10|0.20 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money
- Akta_Tilten sitting in seat 1 with $19.50
- dansker77777 sitting in seat 3 with $49.39
- RichieG1976 sitting in seat 4 with $16.91
- housecat sitting in seat 5 with $18.80
- woody05 sitting in seat 6 with $4.75 [Dealer]
Akta_Tilten posted the small blind - $0.10
dansker77777 posted the big blind - $0.20
** Dealing card to RichieG1976: Ace of Clubs, Ace of Hearts
RichieG1976 raised - $0.80
housecat folded
woody05 called - $0.80
Akta_Tilten folded
dansker77777 raised - $1.40
RichieG1976 raised - $4.40
woody05 folded
dansker77777 called - $4.40
** Dealing the flop: Queen of Hearts, Jack of Diamonds, Queen of Diamonds
dansker77777 bet - $5.67
RichieG1976 went all-in - $12.51
dansker77777 called - $12.51
** Dealing the turn: 9 of Hearts
** Dealing the river: 9 of Spades
RichieG1976 shows: Ace of Clubs, Ace of Hearts
dansker77777 shows: Jack of Spades, Jack of Clubs
dansker77777 wins $33.02 from the main pot

KevTheOptimist
15-08-2007, 01:04 PM
With the re raise pre flop from him and then calling a big re raise from you I'm putting him on a premium hand and probably a made hand.

You'de expect him to re raise with AA, KK and call with any other pair above 9's or possibly AK, AQ. His bet after the flop out of position again shows strength, I'm discounting him having QQ due to the flop so would be putting him on JJ, 10 10 or poss 99 and therefore calling.

Don't really think you did much wrong and got unlucky IMO

se1eagle
15-08-2007, 01:40 PM
I don't proclaim to be in any way an expert but here are my thoughts... In light of the preflop betting I think your shove was fine. Do you have any stats on the player? What was your image at the table like?

IMHO he made a pretty -EV preflop call with JJ, he has to think he's crushed or at very very best a coinflip against anything you'd 4-bet having raised UTG. He had no implied odds to call for set value as you only had $14 in your stack.

Not knowing that, if you assumed he was a decent thinking aggressive player, he called a 4-bet preflop which should really narrow down his range to AK or QQ+. QQ is very unlikely and you beat the rest so I think your shove is fine.

If you thought he was a total donk then his 4-bet calling range is much wider and could contain 99+, AJ+, KQ+ which makes it tougher. On this flop you're 60-40 favourite against that range so I still like the shove - the only exception would be if you read him as a very passive player who would be unlikely to bet out at a scary flop like that with nothing.

Strathclyde Eagle
15-08-2007, 01:49 PM
I remember a podcast I listened to last year when Rafe Furst was talking through a hand where he had Aces. A flop of 772 was supposedly a good flop for him, but unfortunately his opponent was bluffing with 72! (Furst hit an Ace on the river to help him towards his first bracelet.)

Unless you're seeing all one suit or three connecting cards it is pretty hard to say any flop is bad for Aces. Not much you can do in that situation either in my opinion, short of having a very good read on your opponent.

oz_da II
15-08-2007, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by Strathclyde Eagle
I remember a podcast I listened to last year when Rafe Furst was talking through a hand where he had Aces. A flop of 772 was supposedly a good flop for him, but unfortunately his opponent was bluffing with 72! (Furst hit an Ace on the river to help him towards his first bracelet.)

Unless you're seeing all one suit or three connecting cards it is pretty hard to say any flop is bad for Aces. Not much you can do in that situation either in my opinion, short of having a very good read on your opponent.

Saw that on ESPN's coverage of last year's WSOP, crazy hand.

You're last statement is spot on, there are some players I know (absolute maniacs) where I'd call a situation like that with ace high.

Billyd
15-08-2007, 06:01 PM
your opinions please: was 2 off the bubble and this player was awful


*********** # 6 **************
PokerStars Game #11492027572: Tournament #58295936, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit -
Level IX (300/600) - 2007/08/14 - 21:06:04 (ET)
Table '58295936 9' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: jobbertron (13111 in chips)
Seat 2: theTOAD13 (5370 in chips)
Seat 3: lordparas (13874 in chips)
Seat 4: DvDHouse (11000 in chips)
Seat 5: Alicia34 (6155 in chips)
Seat 7: nyehanforeal (10998 in chips)
Seat 8: billyd77 (12876 in chips)
Seat 9: scsylvan (15245 in chips)
jobbertron: posts the ante 50
theTOAD13: posts the ante 50
lordparas: posts the ante 50
DvDHouse: posts the ante 50
Alicia34: posts the ante 50
nyehanforeal: posts the ante 50
billyd77: posts the ante 50
scsylvan: posts the ante 50
theTOAD13: posts small blind 300
lordparas: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to billyd77 [Kd 6d]
DvDHouse: folds
Alicia34: folds
nyehanforeal: folds
billyd77: raises 1100 to 1700
scsylvan: folds
jobbertron: folds
theTOAD13: folds
lordparas: raises 1100 to 2800
billyd77: calls 1100
*** FLOP *** [3d 7s 9d]
lordparas: bets 3000
billyd77: raises 7026 to 10026 and is all-in
lordparas: calls 7026
*** TURN *** [3d 7s 9d] [8c]
*** RIVER *** [3d 7s 9d 8c] [Qh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
lordparas: shows [Ks Qs] (a pair of Queens)
billyd77: shows [Kd 6d] (high card King)
lordparas collected 26352 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 26352 | Rake 0
Board [3d 7s 9d 8c Qh]
Seat 1: jobbertron (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: theTOAD13 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: lordparas (big blind) showed [Ks Qs] and won (26352) with a pair of
Queens
Seat 4: DvDHouse folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Alicia34 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: nyehanforeal folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: billyd77 showed [Kd 6d] and lost with high card King
Seat 9: scsylvan folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Reps AJ
15-08-2007, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by Billyd
your opinions please: was 2 off the bubble and this player was awful


Fold before the flop, absolutely no need to get involved. You're out of position with a pretty average at best hand and have plenty of chips. Wait for a better hand and\or position

Once you chose to get involved then the all-in on the flop was probably your only option once he'd bet out...if you put him on a small pair or a bluff - how he called I don't know.

But then I'm sure you'll get different opinions in a minute :p

Billyd
15-08-2007, 09:39 PM
was silly of me to get involved i agree. why he called i have idea tho!!!!

SamTheOldGoat
15-08-2007, 09:51 PM
Originally posted by RichieG
Doh, I thought you could buy-in direct, but as you obviously already know, it's online quaification only.

I really fancy the live gig, but I can't cope with Virgin's crappy software - or the fact that despite registering and playing on Mon night, the site wouldn't allow me to log-on last night (or request a password reminder) so by the time I'd created a new user, I'd missed the registration (even though I got on 1.5 mins before tourney start!).

Do you know of any other reasonable buy-in slow-structure live events? I really fancy playing a slow live tourney, as the 10r at the Rendezvous tends annoy the hell out of me with all the gamblers just chucking chips in. BR doesn't extend above 100 for one event really. (and even that would have to be called taking a shot!)

The APAT events run a good structure at the start then they go crazy. 40 min blinds, 10k stack 25/50 starting. That's what myself a few mates and eaglesrus off here played in over in Cardiff. Check their website, apat.com or something however you have to be on the ball to get into their comps. The cardiff one sold out 200+ seats in 7 mins or something online, but it was a good weekend of cards, although I lost biggest live pot of my life, about 700+ or something! Will let you know when I next play one.

I'm goign to play Rendezvous on Friday night if you fancy is Richie and some cash afterwards?

SamTheOldGoat
15-08-2007, 09:57 PM
I wouldn't have made the initial raise in that position Billy but his mid-raise I would have called I think. I haven't seen his play or any showdowns etc..... His KQ call is actually horrific

gjtango
15-08-2007, 10:39 PM
I'm getting increasing frustrated with PokerStars by the day. I just called an all in with QQ. Blinds were 25/50, I raised it to 250, one bod goes all in, I call, he turns over AJ suited. 234 then 5 comes up. Un believable.

DANCOO
15-08-2007, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by gjtango
I'm getting increasing frustrated with PokerStars by the day. I just called an all in with QQ. Blinds were 25/50, I raised it to 250, one bod goes all in, I call, he turns over AJ suited. 234 then 5 comes up. Un believable.

Mods...Saul has stolen gjtango's account. :D

saul1664
15-08-2007, 11:06 PM
lol.

I did get beaten by a bigger full house today on the river, I had 88, made trips on flop and full house on turn, only for a 7 to appear on the river for him to make 9s over 7s to my 8s over 9s, mainly my fault because I didn't raise him at any stage as I thought I had him covered.

QQ actually isn't that great a hand. You are only likely to get in an all in situation against KK AA or Ax, nothing wrong with the raise, but probably should be folding to the all in call, as you have to know you are in a coin flip situation, unlucky with the way the cards came out though.

saul1664
16-08-2007, 12:19 AM
Unbelievable. 9 man sit and go. Double up second hand when AA wins vs AQ, play absolutely perfectly, not one bad call or mistake. Have 5K in chips, dominating rest of table who are struggling with 1K. Blinds get to 200/400, then lose internet connection for 8 minutes. When I come back I have 248 chips to chip leaders 12K. Don't last much longer after that.

calne eagle
16-08-2007, 12:28 AM
http://forums.cpfc.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=5894280#post5894280

gjtango
16-08-2007, 12:47 AM
Originally posted by saul1664
Unbelievable. 9 man sit and go. Double up second hand when AA wins vs AQ, play absolutely perfectly, not one bad call or mistake. Have 5K in chips, dominating rest of table who are struggling with 1K. Blinds get to 200/400, then lose internet connection for 8 minutes. When I come back I have 248 chips to chip leaders 12K. Don't last much longer after that.

That's not on.

Paul Romain
16-08-2007, 01:15 AM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
WP Paul, you satellited into ME? 2500 buy in isn't it?



just got thru to the $500 buyin satellite to the two day $2500 buyin.
1 in 5 chance at worst now :)

Oh and went to Sandown races earlier and got 4 out of 6 (including taking 50 off Barry Dennis) - got the Midas touch this week
:D :D

SamTheOldGoat
16-08-2007, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by gjtango
That's not on.

It's noones fault except maybe BT! :bash:

SamTheOldGoat
16-08-2007, 05:20 PM
Originally posted by Paul Romain
just got thru to the $500 buyin satellite to the two day $2500 buyin.
1 in 5 chance at worst now :)

Oh and went to Sandown races earlier and got 4 out of 6 (including taking 50 off Barry Dennis) - got the Midas touch this week
:D :D

Noones congratualted you so I will. It's some achievement mate. you've had a savage week as seen by your results. Really good and your obviously a very good player, your sharkscope stats are brilliant too. 39% ROI after 93 games is something to be very proud of :)

You played anymore FTOP series events or do you have anymore lined up?

SamTheOldGoat
16-08-2007, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by saul1664
lol.

QQ actually isn't that great a hand. You are only likely to get in an all in situation against KK AA or Ax, nothing wrong with the raise, but probably should be folding to the all in call, as you have to know you are in a coin flip situation, unlucky with the way the cards came out though.

?!?! Really? It's the third best starting hand in poker. I'd definitely say it's a great hand. QQ V KK/AA is just a cooler but I'd take QQ V AJ or Ax as you put it any day of the week. How can't you when your such a massive favourite?

eaglesrus
16-08-2007, 05:30 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
The APAT events run a good structure at the start then they go crazy. 40 min blinds, 10k stack 25/50 starting. That's what myself a few mates and eaglesrus off here played in over in Cardiff. Check their website, apat.com or something however you have to be on the ball to get into their comps. The cardiff one sold out 200+ seats in 7 mins or something online, but it was a good weekend of cards, although I lost biggest live pot of my life, about 700+ or something! Will let you know when I next play one.

I'm goign to play Rendezvous on Friday night if you fancy is Richie and some cash afterwards?

The next one is next bank holiday in Luton. There are 300 players split over two days. I am down to play on the Sunday and then hopefully will make it through to day 2 on the Sunday.

Was good fun at Cardiff. Going down with a couple fo friends so it should be a good laugh. Will let you know how I get on.

oz_da II
16-08-2007, 05:31 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
?!?! Really? It's the third best starting hand in poker. I'd definitely say it's a great hand.

Quite amazingly it is my 3rd most profitable hand. :moo:

SamTheOldGoat
16-08-2007, 05:37 PM
You reckon ?! ;) lol

SIKKKKKKKKK call
Full Tilt Poker Game #3268045813: Table Masolino (6 max) - $50/$100 - No Limit Hold'em - 4:12:21 ET - 2007/08/16
Seat 2: Urindanger ($9,900)
Seat 3: jinberg ($12,771)
Seat 5: Illbreakurlegs ($13,896)
Urindanger posts the small blind of $50
jinberg posts the big blind of $100
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Illbreakurlegs folds
Urindanger raises to $300
jinberg calls $200
*** FLOP *** [7s Th Kh]
Urindanger bets $500
jinberg calls $500
*** TURN *** [7s Th Kh] [3c]
Urindanger bets $1,200
jinberg has 15 seconds left to act
jinberg calls $1,200
*** RIVER *** [7s Th Kh 3c] [2c]
Urindanger has 15 seconds left to act
Urindanger checks
jinberg has 15 seconds left to act
loosetyra sits down
loosetyra adds $4,000
loosetyra is sitting out
loosetyra: svindle?
jinberg bets $2,700
Urindanger calls $2,700
*** SHOW DOWN ***
jinberg shows [Qh Jd] King Queen high
Urindanger shows [Jc Qs] King Queen high
Urindanger ties for the pot ($4,699.50) with King Queen high
jinberg ties for the pot ($4,699.50) with King Queen high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $9,400 | Rake $1
Board: [7s Th Kh 3c 2c]
Seat 2: Urindanger (small blind) showed [Jc Qs] and won ($4,699.50) with King Queen high
Seat 3: jinberg (big blind) showed [Qh Jd] and won ($4,699.50) with King Queen high
Seat 5: Illbreakurlegs (button) didn't bet (folded)

SamTheOldGoat
16-08-2007, 05:38 PM
Bugger, should have let me know mate, next time if you notice something can you post it up! Sounds fun, and all the best :)

oz_da II
16-08-2007, 05:45 PM
Very interesting call, I suppose jinberg never raises so Urin... puts him on a busted straight or flush draw. Must have plenty of prior history on him I'd imagine.

DANCOO
16-08-2007, 06:35 PM
Don't know how he can call that personally.
Maybe that's why I'm not a great cash player, but a flat call just seems ridiculous - I just can't image what he is hoping jinberg has?

KevTheOptimist
16-08-2007, 06:48 PM
Busted straight or flush draw.

But I'm with you on that one,.

Reps AJ
16-08-2007, 07:12 PM
Argh :bash:

I'm getting out drawn left right and centre today... Now I know when the I've got the money in when I'm ahead the I'll win in the long run but it is bloody frustrating :D

SamTheOldGoat
16-08-2007, 07:44 PM
It's another higher level of thinking from what I can gather and think/hear/read. 3 handed as well and I know two of those players play together everyday. Online tells innit ;)

saul1664
16-08-2007, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by calne eagle
http://forums.cpfc.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=5894280#post5894280

decorators are in

saul1664
16-08-2007, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
?!?! Really? It's the third best starting hand in poker. I'd definitely say it's a great hand. QQ V KK/AA is just a cooler but I'd take QQ V AJ or Ax as you put it any day of the week. How can't you when your such a massive favourite?

That's not what I'm saying. What I am saying is if you push in with QQ, the only hands you are likely to get called with are KK AA, both these hands you are going to beat 4% of the time. You are much better off raising with it.

RichieG
16-08-2007, 08:33 PM
Can't do Rendezvous tmw, but will let you know next time I do Sam. APAT events look good, how do we tell when the next one goes on sale?

SamTheOldGoat
16-08-2007, 08:36 PM
You think when you shove with QQ your only likely to get called with KK or AA? I bet you've been a.i.p.f with q's and come up against AA/KK a LOT less often than a much more inferior hand, that is a fact!
I don't think so at all, what about 8's-j's, ak-a10 etc and then there are other value calls after raises where they have to call.
QQ to beat AA or KK all in pre flop of 4%. It's actually something like 14%, 1/8 or something very similar.

SamTheOldGoat
16-08-2007, 08:38 PM
Originally posted by RichieG
Can't do Rendezvous tmw, but will let you know next time I do Sam. APAT events look good, how do we tell when the next one goes on sale?

Ok mate, I'll keep an eye on their website now and definitely let you know. Also let me know when you make it down to Rendezvous, we can grab a beer :)

SamTheOldGoat
16-08-2007, 08:40 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
You think when you shove with QQ your only likely to get called with KK or AA? I bet you've been a.i.p.f with q's and come up against AA/KK a LOT less often than a much more inferior hand, that is a fact!
I don't think so at all, what about 8's-j's, ak-a10 etc and then there are other value calls after raises where they have to call.
QQ to beat AA or KK all in pre flop of 4%. It's actually something like 14% I think, maybe slightly higher like 18/19%, something very similar.

Reps AJ
16-08-2007, 08:47 PM
Originally posted by Reps AJ
Argh :bash:

I'm getting out drawn left right and centre today... Now I know when the I've got the money in when I'm ahead the I'll win in the long run but it is bloody frustrating :D

KK v K9 all in after a bluff re-raise from him... flop 99J :grrr:

Reps AJ
16-08-2007, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by Reps AJ
KK v K9 all in after a bluff re-raise from him... flop 99J :grrr:

AA v 44 all in... what's on the flop? :sob:

SamTheOldGoat
16-08-2007, 09:33 PM
A44

Reps AJ
16-08-2007, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
A44

Just the one 4, but one was enough :sob:

KevTheOptimist
16-08-2007, 10:01 PM
How you getting on lately STOG? Had your proper bosh at it yet or is that to come?

saul1664
16-08-2007, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
You think when you shove with QQ your only likely to get called with KK or AA? I bet you've been a.i.p.f with q's and come up against AA/KK a LOT less often than a much more inferior hand, that is a fact!
I don't think so at all, what about 8's-j's, ak-a10 etc and then there are other value calls after raises where they have to call.
QQ to beat AA or KK all in pre flop of 4%. It's actually something like 14%, 1/8 or something very similar.

That would depend on the game, chip stacks, position etc., cash or tourney.

KevTheOptimist
16-08-2007, 10:57 PM
BTW is anyone else having problems with live tracker and ladbrokes?

saul1664
16-08-2007, 11:39 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
You think when you shove with QQ your only likely to get called with KK or AA? I bet you've been a.i.p.f with q's and come up against AA/KK a LOT less often than a much more inferior hand, that is a fact!
I don't think so at all, what about 8's-j's, ak-a10 etc and then there are other value calls after raises where they have to call.
QQ to beat AA or KK all in pre flop of 4%. It's actually something like 14%, 1/8 or something very similar.

Well got QQ twice, and ended up all in twice. First meets 9 7 2 flop, get called all in with 9A, A on river. Second time, re raise a 3.5x BB raise to 8 x BB and get called by 22, first card out 2. Not exactly sure what point this proves though...

oz_da II
17-08-2007, 12:21 AM
Proves it is a profitable hand, you are miles in front in both cases.

I'd put my house on the bloke with 22 being a losing player.

gjtango
17-08-2007, 12:58 AM
Just played a 180 man tournament, $4.40 buyin, paying out from 18th upwards. Finished 21st, losing allin 77 to 55- 3 hearts on flop (he had a heart), then a 5 on the turn! :bash: :bash: :bash:

oz_da II
17-08-2007, 03:19 AM
I think we have a new "bad beat" king.

ozeagle
17-08-2007, 05:01 AM
Originally posted by oz_da II
I'd put my house on the bloke with 22 being a losing player.

forget the house, just double my 300 again next Sat ;)

:p

Finbar
17-08-2007, 11:57 AM
afternoon all, off round a mate's house tonight for some online poker, are there any decent tournaments on Friday nights that anyone knows of on these sites

ulimate bet
full tilt
bet fair
Pacific poker

would be after a multi table comp, no rebuys of up to USD 60-100

can't access the sites from work so if anyone knows of good ones (or is playing in tone tonight) then let me know
:p

What is the best way for two players to play together, just leave each person to play their own way or discuss hands as you go?

Always done badly with my other half but have a feeling that is down to her being ridiculously tight...

oz_da II
17-08-2007, 12:41 PM
Maybe a bit late for UK, but this is the best tourney FTP has to offer tonight.

ozeagle
17-08-2007, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by Finbar

Always done badly with my other half but have a feeling that is down to her being ridiculously tight...

:eek:

Finbar
17-08-2007, 12:46 PM
cheers Oz, unfortunately midnight is too late

oz_da II
17-08-2007, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by ozeagle
:eek:

:D

There's one three hours earlier for same entry fee but less guaranteed cash $14,500.

Finbar
17-08-2007, 12:51 PM
Ozeagle, almost spat my tea out at that quote!! :D

Well she is of Australian stock so only to be expected...

Oz Da, the one at 9pm sounds like it'll do nicely :p

ozeagle
17-08-2007, 12:54 PM
i said nothing...

:)

oz_da II
17-08-2007, 12:54 PM
Originally posted by Finbar
Ozeagle, almost spat my tea out at that quote!! :D

Well she is of Australian stock so only to be expected...

Oz Da, the one at 9pm sounds like it'll do nicely :p

Best of luck :p

Paul Romain
17-08-2007, 01:00 PM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
Noones congratualted you so I will. It's some achievement mate. you've had a savage week as seen by your results. Really good and your obviously a very good player, your sharkscope stats are brilliant too. 39% ROI after 93 games is something to be very proud of :)

You played anymore FTOP series events or do you have anymore lined up?

I only targeted the NL freezeouts - rebuys are too expensive after the satellite in and I dont play them well anyway. Have never played hi-lo, Horse etc. Have got into $500 Main Event tomorrow night (and I have got into another final satellite with minimum 100 seats to that so may cash another $500 from that as I have already won my seat) and have two final satellites to try for the two day $2500 buy in - one 2.30am tonight (feel free to rail haha!) and one 5.30 tomorrow evening.

After that I'm going to try for the WSOPE events - Fulltilt and Betfair I think

SamTheOldGoat
17-08-2007, 04:52 PM
Great news Paul, keep me updated with how you do, may well watch tonight, playing live in Rendezvous in Brighton then cash but may watch upon return. All the best :)

PS, Fin, check out Star's tournaments tonight, loads, 55 FO, 109 FO's, 11r, 55+1 rebuy etc. Often play wtih my brother together in cash games etc and if we aren't 100% often we'll drop the hand, good luck :)

saul1664
17-08-2007, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by oz_da II
I think we have a new "bad beat" king.

The king is dead. Long like the king.

saul1664
17-08-2007, 07:23 PM
Originally posted by Finbar
afternoon all, off round a mate's house tonight for some online poker, are there any decent tournaments on Friday nights that anyone knows of on these sites

ulimate bet
full tilt
bet fair
Pacific poker

would be after a multi table comp, no rebuys of up to USD 60-100

can't access the sites from work so if anyone knows of good ones (or is playing in tone tonight) then let me know
:p

What is the best way for two players to play together, just leave each person to play their own way or discuss hands as you go?

Always done badly with my other half but have a feeling that is down to her being ridiculously tight...

No decent tournaments on betfair at all. You get about 80 runners in $5 turbos, and about 30-40 runners in $530 buy ins, nothing really inbetween. A 40 runner tourney tends to take four and a half hours to complete.

LLCOOLSTEVE
17-08-2007, 08:25 PM
On At The Races tonight, channel 415, Sky Poker at 11pm, Dean Austin is a guest.

DANCOO
17-08-2007, 10:06 PM
I don't think I've ever had such a poor run since I started playing poker.

Hi/Lo has been killing me for months.

Every A2xx runs into HHHR, every AAxx runs into a paired board, every KKxx sees an A on the flop. For the first time I've started mixing my play up a bit by raising with hands I wouldn't usually.

Just now, three hands in a row I raise with HHHH, and see three LLL flop...where the were you when I was holding A2!!!

Next hand I get A259ds and raise....and a suited high flop comes come down...I mean FFS!!! (I did actually pick this pot up holding the flush after the river gave a fifth same suit), but it was frustration calls all the way to the river with my 92s - giving me the second nut flush on a 7TJKA board!

Oh yeah, had a chance to move up to eighth in the hi/lo tourney aswell, I flop trip 3's and push, get called by AA...turn gives an A and it's goodnight.

:veryangry :veryangry :veryangry

DANCOO
17-08-2007, 10:12 PM
Oh yeah, I'm on very aggressive table, family pot. I flop quad 2's from the SB. Check it once, everyone checks. Bet half pot, everyone folds.
Couple of hands later I get the don of hi/lo hands - AA2Kds from UTG, I flat call, so does everyone else. Board pairs, and I call to the river like a chump!

me, I just doubled on cash...raising p/f with a very junky 89TTss. :D

saul1664
17-08-2007, 11:45 PM
Played a 164 man tournament and have bubbled one place before the main money, being betfair, final tables are only 9 players not 10. Sitting with 10K in chips, blinds 1/2K, have AQ, big stack calls me all in, last time he did that he had KK and I actually won the race with AQ. I think hard about it (was in BB so down to 7K in chips), as there are other players behind me to act I fold and I am not sure why. Everyone else gets out of the way and he shows A6.

I then push with K9 suited a few hands later, and he calls again this time with A5, and the board misses everybody and I go out at the bubble. Disappointing.

KevTheOptimist
17-08-2007, 11:57 PM
My tounrney play needs some work.

Played a $25 f/o on laddies with 197 players. I always find myself playing tight and generally winning the hands i should be winning and folding the rest. My stats are incredible I think winning 85% of hands at showdown. But I always seem to be short stacked the whole time - I dont know whether I get less 'big hands' - by that I mean AX, KJ suited cards etc, but i really do play very few hands.

anyway I get knocked out in 26th, just doubled up to 6k, blinds 600/300 and try a move with TJ sooted mid position, only the big blind calls, flop nowt so continuation bet which is called, hit me jack on the turn and go all in for the remaining 1k and called by AK who hits the K on river.

A bit gutted as its the first tourney ive played for about 3 months or so and thought I had that hand wrapped up to put me on 12k and in good shape.

What do you guys do when your card dead? Are you happy to wait and blind away to the point that you have to go all in or do you go in on any two cards if in position...... (I think this is my downfall, need to position raise more often when no action in front of me.)

ANyway moved to a cash table and straight away doubled up with 99 making a boat.... :-)

Paul Romain
18-08-2007, 01:04 AM
Originally posted by KevTheOptimist
anyway I get knocked out in 26th, just doubled up to 6k, blinds 600/300 and try a move with TJ sooted mid position, only the big blind calls, flop nowt so continuation bet which is called, hit me jack on the turn and go all in for the remaining 1k and called by AK who hits the K on river.
(I think this is my downfall, need to position raise more often when no action in front of me.)

my tourny game has taken a massive leap forward in recent weeks. I used to be much like you Kev until I increased my aggression from level 4 or 5 onwards (wait till the loose fish bust). Much more raising unopened pots and continuation bets. And increasing my short stack allin point from 5/6 BB to about 10BB (to increase chances of taking it unchallenged) That means in your hand above, if I played it at all I wouldbe pushing. You left yourself way too short if you didnt win it and it was hard to play postflop. But I wouldnt have played it - i would have waited for AK..10 say or preferably a pair and then pushed.

Obviously i have made some other adjustments and the above depends on oppo stacks etc but my results have gone through the roof and am dreaming of bracelets lol...

se1eagle
18-08-2007, 01:10 AM
Just won my biggest pot ever! This player kylynn was sitting at the table with about $220 when i joined, 80% VPIP and 10% PFR. I took about $80 over the course of several pots (he kept calling with A2o, calling bets with A high and stuff like that) and then this pot came up. Knew he was going to call a shove after his reraise - wahoo!

FullTiltPoker Game #3283792652: Table Griffiss (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:58:22 ET - 2007/08/17
Seat 1: thee babe ($49.25)
Seat 2: kylynn ($126.85)
Seat 3: Sebastius ($52.25)
Seat 4: Gluteus ($136.20)
Seat 5: FeltDreams ($82.40)
Seat 6: Nikachu ($50)
kylynn posts the small blind of $0.25
Sebastius posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Gluteus [Ad As]
Gluteus raises to $1.75
FeltDreams folds
Nikachu folds
thee babe folds
kylynn raises to $11
Sebastius folds
Gluteus raises to $136.20, and is all in
kylynn has 15 seconds left to act
kylynn calls $115.85, and is all in
Gluteus shows [Ad As]
kylynn shows [Ac Jd]
Uncalled bet of $9.35 returned to Gluteus
*** FLOP *** [6s Kc 7c]
*** TURN *** [6s Kc 7c] [Kh]
*** RIVER *** [6s Kc 7c Kh] [3d]
Gluteus shows two pair, Aces and Kings
kylynn shows a pair of Kings
Gluteus wins the pot ($251.20) with two pair, Aces and Kings
kylynn is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $254.20 | Rake $3
Board: [6s Kc 7c Kh 3d]
Seat 1: thee babe (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: kylynn (small blind) showed [Ac Jd] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 3: Sebastius (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: Gluteus showed [Ad As] and won ($251.20) with two pair, Aces and Kings
Seat 5: FeltDreams didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Nikachu didn't bet (folded)

Finbar
18-08-2007, 01:31 AM
Originally posted by Finbar
Ozeagle, almost spat my tea out at that quote!! :D

Well she is of Australian stock so only to be expected...

Oz Da, the one at 9pm sounds like it'll do nicely :p

Well we did a Betfair $100 buy in and lasted 2hrs or so, then I persuaded my mate to do $30 heads up comps and we won 6 out of 7 so a profit for the night, I love heads up!!

And the girls are still on Singstar... god help me.. :(

Paul Romain
18-08-2007, 04:47 AM
nerves jangling.....

nearly on final table in 1200 runner $24,000 guarantee...

Paul Romain
18-08-2007, 05:12 AM
ffs....JJ v allin 88 for the chiplead and he hits 8 on river

Paul Romain
18-08-2007, 05:13 AM
lol....but then just reraised his AA with my QQ and won

Paul Romain
18-08-2007, 05:43 AM
finished 4th (called allin with 88 but AJ hit his J or river. broke my rule of getting my chips in first as well) which out of 1200 isnt bad but you cant help thinking so near but yet so far. Its a nice wedge but when you've spent the last hour gazing longingly at the huge $$$$ sitting next to 1st place in the prize table lol.....!

SamTheOldGoat
18-08-2007, 10:28 AM
1.5k for 5th and 5.4k for 1st. That's a nice payout structure for you and not too top heavy! Congrats on the 1.5k, keep riding your rush, your scores have een great! :)

SamTheOldGoat
18-08-2007, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by saul1664
Played a 164 man tournament and have bubbled one place before the main money, being betfair, final tables are only 9 players not 10. Sitting with 10K in chips, blinds 1/2K, have AQ, big stack calls me all in, last time he did that he had KK and I actually won the race with AQ.

That's not a race! You got lucky with your 3 outer ;)

SamTheOldGoat
18-08-2007, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by KevTheOptimist


What do you guys do when your card dead? Are you happy to wait and blind away to the point that you have to go all in or do you go in on any two cards if in position...... (I think this is my downfall, need to position raise more often when no action in front of me.)

ANyway moved to a cash table and straight away doubled up with 99 making a boat.... :-)

Unlucky Kev, these fish hey ;) In reaction to your question, I'll be making raises from hi-jack, cutoff and button often. As Paul says, don;t let your M get too low and if it starts too, get shoving for fold equity :)

KevTheOptimist
18-08-2007, 10:41 AM
Lol, do you know what, hi-jack, M and fold equity mean nothing to me! Perhaps thats why im not too great!

Best dig out me Harrington on hold em and get past page 100 this time....

Paul Romain
18-08-2007, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by KevTheOptimist
Lol, do you know what, hi-jack, M and fold equity mean nothing to me! Perhaps thats why im not too great!

Best dig out me Harrington on hold em and get past page 100 this time....

don't worry Kev - Sam's lost me with everything except the fold equity there too haha!

(fold equity - effectively means the more you push with the higher the probability you'll win cos they all fold)

Paul Romain
18-08-2007, 10:55 AM
Originally posted by SamTheOldGoat
1.5k for 5th and 5.4k for 1st. That's a nice payout structure for you and not too top heavy! Congrats on the 1.5k, keep riding your rush, your scores have een great! :)

Haha - you can tell I was tired - I thought i came 4th!!

That tourney had a different payout structure to full tilts standard for some reason - paid all the way down to 180 for 1188 runners.

was an interesting tournament though and hard work at times. At one stage reasonably deep into it, and hefty blinds, I had four successive blind steals reraised allin when I couldn't realistically call - was getting a tad irritable!! One guy did it on three successive hands (was still there when I busted). I always like to try again next hand when I have had a steal thwarted cos I think it looks like its gotta be real if you've just been caught - so I thought the third in a row HAD to look real...and he still did me!

Paul Romain
18-08-2007, 10:58 AM
incidentally i missed out in the satellite to the $2500 but it was a long shot - only 7 seats for 350 runners. Tonight I have another go but its a $500 buy in satellite so 1 in 5 this time. Fingers crossed - I really fancy having a go at Phil Ivey who's hosting! (I've only just discovered Full Tilt offer a bounty on all tourneys if you bust a named pro too - I nearly got Eddy Scharf last night but he lucked out!)