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arussell
11-07-2000, 04:06 AM
So now we know ...
We are about to sign two players from Arsenal, one of whom is Tommy Black a young midfielder. By chance - I have seen him play against us before (in April 1997) and this is what I wrote at the time ......
Crystal Palace 2 Arsenal 1
Palace Team: Ormshaw, Hibburt, Carlisle, Kennedy, Woozley, Mullins, Stephens, Graham, Martin, Morrison, Folan
Arsenal Team: Richardson, McLeod, Grey, Livermore, Clark, Wicks, Bowes, Lincoln,
Riza, Vernazza, Black
Palace Scorers: Graham, Carlisle
Arsenal Scorer: Black
Arsenal got the game underway, but almost immediately the first chance came Palace's way when in the 1st minute Morrison's cross from the right, met Stevens a few yards from the goal-line who connected with the ball under pressure from the Arsenal defence, to see his header go just over. The fifth minute saw Arsenal;s first chance when Bowes broke on the left, but shot into Ormshaw;s arms after cutting into the edge of the box.
Moments afterward, Palace won a free kick on the right which Tony Folan took, and it was then nodded down by Mullins to see Stevens let fly with a terrific shot from the edge of the box that looked destined for the top right of the goal, until Arsenal's keeper Richardson made an excellent diving save, to tip the ball round the post.
Mullins then made an excellent covering tackle on the six yard line in the Palace box, after some neat build up work between Black, Vernazza and McLeod respectively on the right hand side.
A neat Palace passing movement down the left in the 38th minute saw Carlisle link with
Kennedy, but unfortunately the final ball into the box for Martin was just a yard or two too far. Martin then teed up David Stephens two minutes afterward, but his shot was wide of the goal.
It took a fantastic effort from Gareth Graham to break the deadlock just before half time
when, he received the ball in the middle of the pitch, and after running into some space,
let fly from twenty yards, to see this particular shot nestle nicely in the top right of the goal to make it 1-0 to the Eagles.
The start of the second period saw Arsenal in a more determined mood. Black slipped his marker nicely in the box, but Ormshaw rushed to his feet on the six yard line to collect the ball from him before he could strike it. Stephens then had a shot just over the crossbar in the 51st after a nod down from Martin.
In the 53rd minute Arsenal struck though. Bowes passed to Riza on the right and his low cross was converted from close range by Black who just beat the defender and Ormshaw to make it 1-1.
The 56th minute saw an attacking run from Folan on the right, and although his cross beat the keeper, it was also unfortunately too high and far for the incoming Palace attackers.
Ten minutes later, Riza held Woozley, which should have resulted in a Palace free kick,
fortunately his shot when clear was well saved by Ormshaw.
Palace broke through again in the 65th when a lovely long run on the left from Folan resulted in a low cross into the box. Martin cleverly fooled the Arsenal defenders by overstepping and dummying the ball. Behind him was Morrison, who saw his slightly mis-hit shot hit the post, where Carlisle was then waiting to tap the ball in gratefully and make it 2-1.
The 78th minute saw Arsenal's Riza have a good strike just go over, whilst the last chance of the game came deep into injury time when substitute Richard Harris put a long throw into the Arsenal box, that was then nodded just wide by Woozley.
Boy does that bring back memories of that wonderful youth side that we had at that time ! - but as you can see - Black can certainly put himself about at least, and I can remember him being an involved player as well.
GreatGonzo
11-07-2000, 04:40 AM
Helped bring back memories to me of that game - my first trip to highbury!
Black looks like he had the ability then so could be a very useful addition to the squad
I have 2 other questions about Palace players at the time.
How has Tony Folan progressed i really rated him! - Edmundo?
Where is David Stevens he was useful!
Finally you could seee back then the talent in Mullins!
Moontoad
11-07-2000, 05:20 AM
Gonzo , Dave Stevens spent the second half of last season playing for Hayes in the conference.The previous season and a half was spent at 'my' non league club Dulwich Hamlet in the Rymans premier where he scored something like 42 goals in 56 games.As that suggests he looked really sharp, far too good for the Rymans and it was little wonder he moved up to the conference where he continued to score regularly for Hayes.
I always wondered why Palace let him go and would be surprised if his form was'nt attracting attention from league teams.May be worth a second look Steve?
arussell
11-07-2000, 05:57 AM
To kill two birds with one stone !
Folan is still at Brentford but spent most of last season injured and out of form. I gather also that he has put a bit of weight on !
David Stevens ... well we've already covered this about a month ago on another thread.
I don't know why we let him go either. Of the strikers we had at the time - he always looked to me to be the one that might make it.
He is now at Hayes and indeed has scored something like 40 plus goals in 50 plus games at non-league level. I saw him play as recently as three/four months ago. He didn't score in that game but buzzed around and made a nuisance of himself.
The only reason I can GUESS that he might have been released was due to discipline. I can remember he used to be a little niggly and indeed was rightly sent off in a cup game against Wycombe in '98 (I think) after a bad challenge on one of the opposition.
BTW Gonzo - that was the report from the home leg of the SJFC Final - the second leg was at Highbury, which we won 1-0.
[This message has been edited by arussell (edited 11 July 2000).]
tomario
11-07-2000, 06:16 AM
Moontoad, I have to agree Dave Stevens was class for Dulwich Hamlet. They are also my non league team as well.
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Gooders
11-07-2000, 12:51 PM
I appear to have missed something - signing two players from Arsenal? Was there a late CP-FRIS bulletin that I missed then?
Who's the other one?
Sandy of Cornwall
11-07-2000, 01:00 PM
This is from an Arsenal supporting friend of mine:-
Tommy Black is an outstanding youngster. He was part of the U19 FA youth champions. I watched both legs of the semi and final on Sky and there were some impressive youngsters there. Should be good experience for the young lad !!!
Originally posted by Gooders on 07-11-2000 08:51 AM
I appear to have missed something - signing two players from Arsenal? Was there a late CP-FRIS bulletin that I missed then?
Who's the other one?
Julian Gray
Did you know...
that Brentford bid 500k in January for Black?
BRENTFORD BID FOR BLACK
by Graeme Bailey
BRENTFORD have bid £500,000 for Arsenal winger Tommy Black.
The 20-year-old winger is now thinking over the move to Griffin Park after Arsene Wenger accepted the bid.
Black is limited in his chances at Highbury and may move for the chance of first team football.Graeme Bailey
Edmundo
11-07-2000, 02:02 PM
Tommy Black, eh? An interesting story. Black was on loan at Bristol City around last Christmas and played against Brentford at Griffin Park. The Bees won 2-1, but the player who stood out that day was Tommy Black. Admittedly he was up against Neil Clement (on loan from Chelsea) - the worst left back of all time. EVen so, Black's performance was enough for Ron to offer Arsenal £500,000 for him.
Black is a winger - definitely an attacking midfielder. Anyway, Arsenal accepted Ron's offer and I think it even got as far as Black accepting the personal terms, but he dithered over actually signing. In the end the transfer never happened. Black's contract expired last month, so in theory he is a free agent and the story we were spun earlier this year was that he wanted to see what was on offer when his contract ended. But there will be a fee for him as he is under 24. Good luck with him - he's an exciting prospect.
As for Tony Folan ... Well Tony exploded onto the scene when he arrived from Palace on the same day as Hermann Hreidarsson. He made his debut off the bench at White Hart Lane in a Worthless Cup game and even though he was only on the pitch for about ten minutes he dazzled and created our second goal. He had one of the most remarkable individual performances I can recall at Peterborough soon afterwards. He shot from inside his own half and hit the crossbar with the goalie well beaten. The ball was cleared for a throw in and Folan gathered the ball from the throw in and waltzed past about six defenders towards the junction of the goal-line and the penalty area before chipping the keeper from a ridiculous angle. One of the best goals I have ever seen. You can have a look for yourself at http://web.ukonline.co.uk/beesgoals/0310981.mpg
He also scored from 45 yards against Cambridge live on Sky TV.
But last season he was beset by problems. He had some domestic problems which led to him skipping training and was left out of the team. He fought back, scored a good goal against Reading (although he had put on at least a stone in weight) before suffering a freak injury breaking his foot in training by kicking the ball! He eventually got back into first team action at the end of last season but still looked considerably overweight. It has been said he drinks too much.
However there have been rumours that he is unhappy in England and wishes to live in Ireland. It seems he has done a deal to play for Galway United as a part-time pro for £120 a game. I don't know how Ron views this, or whether he will let Folan go. If he does go, I think it will be a sad waste of potentially a great talent (not to mention that £100,000 we paid you for him!).
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Clapham Grand
11-07-2000, 02:07 PM
I have just spoken to a Brentford fan who was at the same game as the one Edmundo refers to, and he gives exactly the same story. He too recalls that TB was holding out until the end of his contract.
It must be disheartening for Arsenal fans to see the majority of their reserve team being sold off to other clubs, but sod it, it's good for the rest of us.
Is Neil Clement the worst left back ever? Worse than Jason Crowe? Blimey!
I read somewhere that Clement had signed for someone but can't remember who Ð possibly Pompey or B'ham? At least we won't get him Ð or will that be famous last words?
What about Danny Boxall, Edmundo, I really liked him?
Men At Work
11-07-2000, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by Clapham Grand on 07-11-2000 10:07 AM
It must be disheartening for Arsenal fans to see the majority of their reserve team being sold off to other clubs
Not as disheartening as it is for us to see the majority of our first team being sold off.
Blarm
11-07-2000, 02:14 PM
See Dom's Chinese whispers #1
A telephone call from Simon Jordan to Coppell confirmed that Arsenal's Tommy Black and Julian Gray should be joining the club for around 1m.
ruediger
11-07-2000, 02:27 PM
http://www.arsenal.co.uk/images/ry_black.jpg
Tommy Black
http://www.arsenal.co.uk/images/ry_gray.jpg
Julian Gray
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Men At Work
11-07-2000, 02:37 PM
From the Soccernet site :
Thomas (Tommy) Black
Club: Arsenal
Date of Birth: 6 October 1976
Birthplace: Chigwell
Transfers: Arsenal (From trainee on 1/7/95) League Cup 1 Others 0+1
Carlisle United (Loaned on 26/8/99) Football League 5/1
Bristol City (Loaned on 16/12/99)
Young Tommy had an eventful debut for Carlisle after moving from Arsenal on a loan spell - being red carded on his league debut. However he enjoyed the following game more, scoring one of Carlisle's goals in a 4-2 win. His five games at Brunton Park saw him break into league football before retuning to Highbury to continue his football learning. A former trainee at Arsenal. Tommy has recently joined Bristol City on a loan spell. He had an impressive debut for City, against Wycombe just before Christmas. In between the two loan spells Tommy made a brief Arsenal debut when he started the Worthington Cup tie with Middlesbrough.
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James Varcoe
11-07-2000, 02:46 PM
Just a thought but we have just picked up two promising English teenagers who between them scored 13 goals last season in reserve football.
So, anyone like to guess the reasons for the national team's appalling performance at Euro 2000.
arussell
11-07-2000, 02:52 PM
I've heard the story about Folan possibly off to Ireland too.
As for Boxall - well I'd still love to see him back. He finished last season with a bad injury and I believe he'll be out for the first few months of the coming season too.
anti-addick
11-07-2000, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by GreatGonzo on 07-11-2000 12:40 AM
How has Tony Folan progressed i really rated him! - Edmundo?
In that case he's probably been released if you rated him.... http://www.cpfc.org/ubb/wink.gif
Edmundo
11-07-2000, 03:28 PM
Tony, Neil Clement is the worst left back I've ever seen. West Brom have paid Chelsea £200,000 for him, which just goes to prove the old proverb about a fool and his money. And Boxall did his cruciate ligaments at Luton in February. He hasn't had an operation and is hoping that they will mend naturally. He is doubtful for the start of the season and there must be some doubt whether he will play again this year. I think if you want him back you will need to be thinking of a fee of more than £500,000.
Clapham Grand - I don't think Arsenal fans give a toss about their reserves, as long as they have a full quota of French internationals in the first team.
Gooders
11-07-2000, 03:34 PM
Edmundo - Boxall did his cruciate ligament whilst he was with us too. I suspect that is why surgery has been ruled out this time - too much scar-tissue would probably threaten his career.
I notice that Tommy Black's date of birth is given as October '76. Either it's wrong or he's been knocking around in Arsenal's reserves for a very long time!
Dobbo
11-07-2000, 03:40 PM
Do these two London based signings kill off the Mark Nicholls rumour ?
eagle mart
11-07-2000, 03:40 PM
My Arsenal mate has heard of both of them.
Tommy Black is the one- He just needs first team football.
I think these are the signings we need.
the_next_matt_jansen
11-07-2000, 03:50 PM
No chance of Ashley or Mikkell then?
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arussell
11-07-2000, 05:03 PM
Arsenal of course played a back four - Livermore is midfielder who's now at Millwall.
I have a feeling from what I remember that Gray is left sided central defender, but I could be wrong and it was a while ago !
Chocky's right - we need TWO new strikers though and still a couple of experienced players for the squad, which will increase
by two MORE if we lose any of the out of contract players.
SIMON OF SELHURST
11-07-2000, 05:04 PM
I suppose the departure of Nigel Winteburn from Arsenal means that Ashley Cole will not be available to us, shame. We might get somewhere with Chelsea if we persevere on the Forsell front, but I believe that a left back is what we need most urgently.
Welcome to the two young players from Arsenal.
Mr Black and Mr Gray? Reservoir Dogs? Cut to Steven Thompson complaining about having to be Mr Pink.
eagle mart
11-07-2000, 05:27 PM
Gray is a left-midfielder or a centre back I believe!!!
Eagle
11-07-2000, 06:03 PM
These two players could be two very good shrewd signings by Coppell and two players that can play in the first team and still have a lot of potential.
I have heard a lot about Tommy Black but not a lot of Julian Gray although a friend of mine says they are both good players and deserve first team football which they won't get at Arsenal.
Let's hope they're going to be our next set of Ashley Cole and if they are then it could be £1 million very well spent.
Also regarding Forssell as i said yesterday i did hear a snippet that he would prefer to re-join Palace so that he would be able to stay in London so i would think all it needs is Coppell to contact Chelsea and we would probably have Forssell again and this time probably for the whole season which would i feel be a very good signing once again by Coppell.
Baloo
11-07-2000, 06:22 PM
I don't agree with some peoples' ravings about Forsell. He didn't exactly leave opposition defenders quaking in their boots when he played for us - and for a while it seemed as if he was destined never to find the back of the net.
Plus, if we take him on a whole season's loan, we will have to cough up a hefty proportion of his wages, which are probably quite exorbitant, given that he's employed by the same people who paid £10m for Chris Sutton.
I agree we need a top-class centre forward, but there must be better options than Forsell.
samson
11-07-2000, 06:24 PM
I have to say that when I heard we were signing Asley Cole on loan I was thinking who the hell is he? And had difficulty getting excited, however I was proved very wrong indeed. I think it proved that even having worked without a scout for god only knows how long Sir Steve has lost none of his magic for spotting good talent. Therefore I am keen to here more about these players.
However I am worried that we will only be adding more youngsters to what is already a very young team. Should we not be trying to sign someone at the other end of their careers?
Gooders
11-07-2000, 06:45 PM
I work with a Bristol Rovers fan (amongst others).
He was immediately aware of the name Tommy Black when I mentioned it because he said that Bristol City fans were RAVING about him and were really hoping he would sign for them last season.
Forssell is out of our league wages-wise. Been there, made that mistake - not again please.
Cole is good enough to get into most Premier League teams now - I'd love to see him at Palace but it simply isn't going to happen.
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James Verrinder
11-07-2000, 08:55 PM
Agree with Baloo about Forssell, we need a more experienced player who can actully win a few headers. I think Gallen would be good as a free signing and theres also Roberts from Britol Rovers who looks good but is still young. I also wouldnt mind seeing Antunes back, does anybody know how he got on at Newcastle?
Big Fella
11-07-2000, 09:11 PM
According to Sky Sports, Antunes was released by Newcastle. I think he started once (and subbed early) and came on as sub a couple of times. We would get him for nothing.
arussell
11-07-2000, 09:12 PM
Antunes was released end of the season by Newcastle and Gallen simply isn't good enough - he could hardly make the Rangers side.
I say we need a Trevor Benjamin/Nicky Forster type - and I like the look of Neil Harris at Millwall too.
Maybe even Carl Asaba - he's still capable of scoring goals, but whoever we sign we need TWO forwards not just the one.
Maybe we could get Neil Shipperley to come back and play alongside Clinton ? http://www.cpfc.org/ubb/supergrin.gif
little al
11-07-2000, 09:29 PM
Can anyone tell me if this Julian Gray is our ex free kick speciallist Andy Gray's son?
James Varcoe
11-07-2000, 09:34 PM
Both Benjamin and Harris have already gone elsewhere.
No Little Al I believe he is Macy Grey's cousin.
East-End Eagle
11-07-2000, 09:37 PM
I did'nt know Harris had gone, where to?
James Varcoe
11-07-2000, 09:38 PM
Can't remember will look it up & get back to you.
Pete B
11-07-2000, 10:02 PM
Originally posted by Gooders on 07-11-2000 11:34 AM
Edmundo - Boxall did his cruciate ligament whilst he was with us too. I suspect that is why surgery has been ruled out this time - too much scar-tissue would probably threaten his career.
It was his other knee this time. He is out of contract at the end of next season, so if we are prepared to take the risk on his injuries, we sould pick him up at a snip.
Small number
11-07-2000, 10:28 PM
Harris hasn't been sold... but I am reliable informed he is nothing 2 shout home about!
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GreatGonzo
11-07-2000, 11:23 PM
Unless it happened today as far as i know Benjamin is still at Cambridge. It was all speculation and no delivery on the leicester deal so far!
arussell
12-07-2000, 12:08 AM
Benjamin and Harris haven't gone anywhere - the player that left Millwall, and went to Gillingham was Paul Shaw, who wanted to leave them.
Steve H
12-07-2000, 12:21 AM
Originally posted by James Verrinder on 07-11-2000 04:55 PM
Agree with Baloo about Forssell, we need a more experienced player who can actully win a few headers.
I notice on Ceefax that David Kelly of Tranmere has been released. Not sure how good he is but I'm pretty certain he's an experienced centre forward, and more importantly, available on a free.
Trolley
12-07-2000, 12:38 AM
A player who caught my eye last season on the Television was someone called Roland Edge of Gillingham.I do believe the young man could have a bright future in the game.
We shall have to wait and see.
Small number
12-07-2000, 01:07 AM
If we want 2 sign anyone from Millwall it should be Stuart Nethercott to sure up our defence!
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Boyandy
12-07-2000, 01:23 AM
I agree, get David Kelly. Not because he's actually any good, but because he ALWAYS seems to score against us.
Also we should get the old QPR player Devon White to go with Tommy Black and Julian Grey (well someone had to say it).
Bootsy
12-07-2000, 03:15 AM
I see Michael Thomas has been released by Benfica and is currently looking for a club back in England. He in training with Wimbledon while he tries to get a contract with someone. At 32 I'm sure he'll have a couple of years in him in the first division and surely we need a bit of experience? What do ya think to this one?
Eagle
12-07-2000, 03:26 AM
Benjamin and Harris definately haven't left there clubs as of yet.
Leicester are apparently interested in Benjamin who would cost £1.5 million and is believed Coppell is also interested. Apparently before Coppell left for China he put in a few bids for some players, not sure if Benjamin is one of them, and was awaiting responses which Jordan would take who would then inform Coppell.
I think Coppell knows that he needs more experienced players for the team but is also looking towards the future aswell with the purchases of the two Arsenal boys who i'm sur will prove to be good signings.
I noticed someone mentioned Jason Roberts of Bristol Rovers and i agree he would be a good signing but Rovers are thought to want in the region of around £3 million for his signature and is far too much for a second division player.
Chocky
12-07-2000, 04:23 AM
Gotta get a left back and a big centre forward. Sharpish.
Del Boy
12-07-2000, 04:30 AM
Grey's position in the Arenal line-up on Page 1 suggests he is a left back.
Does anybody know?
tomario
12-07-2000, 05:41 AM
What sort of money would Micheal Thomas require, and what sort of length of contract, as he will probably only have about three years left before he retires from football.
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Gooders
12-07-2000, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by tomario on 07-12-2000 01:41 AM
What sort of money would Micheal Thomas require, and what sort of length of contract, as he will probably only have about three years left before he retires from football.
Too much!
I think Thomas is a prime example of the sort of "big-time Charlie" that we bought too many of under Venables that caused half of our problems in the first place.
Steer well clear, I think.
eagle mart
12-07-2000, 05:18 PM
Michael Padavano sorry I mean Thomas was on Big Bucks at Benfica. They still owe him a million.
David Kelly is about 36-37!? He has more grey hair than Mark Hughes- no definately not.
Carl Asaba would be good Shipperley would be better. A young kid called Michael Branch would have been an excellent buy but Wolves got him last year. Just think of the other young strikers that we have let go who so obviously would shine this season. Marcus Bent & George Ndah......
As for a full-back, I wonder what Kenny Brown is doing these days http://www.cpfc.org/ubb/smile.gif
Slimbloke'H'
13-07-2000, 01:57 AM
James V.(!)
Absolutely agree with you on Noel Whelan, but I am sure his wage demands would be prohibative.
Shipperley has lost a few pounds too, would be good to see him back. (Also Mark Edworthy if he was available)
James Verrinder
13-07-2000, 04:22 AM
Noel Whelan from Coventry? We tried to get him a couple of years ago and he would be available for about 1.5-2M.
James Beattie from Southampton is another one. He's got plenty of potential he might not want to drop a division
arussell
13-07-2000, 11:59 PM
Would love to see those two come back.
Good to see from the Adder that we could have five or six new players in by the time the season starts !!
Rev.B
14-07-2000, 12:56 AM
The most important thing to do at the moment is for Stevie to establish a style and system of play that will see us through the next two to three years. Then pick players accordingly. So when suggesting players perhaps we could also suggest a style of play and formation.
Last season we played a very unsettled system, with players out of position and very little passing football. If we want to get a good team ready for promotion we must get players who can play good passing football.
I guess we shouldn't just go for whoever is available right now but wait for the right players to become available. This would happen two or three months into the season when some of the reserves in the premier league finally realise they won't get a game and should look elsewhere. (This may even happen with our fav. Ashley!)
Tony Humphreys
14-07-2000, 02:07 AM
Don't know how good Black and Grey will turn out to be but, as a policy, it seems right to sign young players at reasonable cost that the big boys no longer want, ie Brits, rather than lash out on expensive foreigners or has-beens. Having said that, I still feel we could do with a couple of older heads who aren't quite as long in the tooth as Ol' Andy. Someone in their late 20s would be fine but I have to admit I can't come up with any obvious names in our likely price/wages range.
Neil the Eagle
14-07-2000, 02:47 AM
Edworthy? Do me a favour ...
Gerry from Sussex
14-07-2000, 03:10 AM
Originally posted by arussell on 07-11-2000 12:06 AM
Boy does that bring back memories of that wonderful youth side that we had at that time ! - but as you can see - Black can certainly put himself about at least, and I can remember him being an involved player as well.
Yep. Just as well as this is seventy five percent of the first team now. Just shows how far they have come in a short space of time. Maybe Goldberg was right when he said we had a golden future with that bunch of youngsters!!
Gerry from Sussex
14-07-2000, 03:21 AM
I liked Forsell but he is not eaxactly what we need as he is too similar to McKenzie and Morrisson. Whelan would be the same problem really but at least he would offer the option of an extra winger some of the time.
Gallen must be a non starter - please. If he can't get in a crap side like QPR then why on earth would we want him here.
What we really need is a target man with a bit of ball control thrown in. If I could invent a time machine my first choice would be Mark Bright every time. In the meantime, we should look for a similar model.
Does anyone know if Adebole's signing with Las Oalmas is off permanently or is he going to have another medical. He might fit the bill if he is still available.
PS. If RN was willing to pay 500k for Black he really must be something special!!
arussell
14-07-2000, 04:34 AM
Originally posted by Neil the Eagle on 07-13-2000 10:47 PM
Edworthy? Do me a favour ...
Interesting choice of words Neil - not a fan of Marc then I take it ?
Eagle
14-07-2000, 04:55 AM
I really think Jason Roberts of Bristol Rovers would be a good partner for Clinton but again the only problem being is his value which Rovers want, £3 million is a lot pay for a second division striker, otherwise Ashley Ward or Nathan Blake which i mentioned yesterday would be good investments.
It will be interesting to see who these 5 or 6 other players will be?
GreatGonzo
14-07-2000, 05:09 AM
From various sources we have all heard that Coppell has somewhere between £3-6m to spend
Well now that £1m has gone he has £2-5m and apparently we can expect another 4 signings. Doing the math the lower end means £500k each the upper end allows £1.25m
How many players mentioned fit into that sort of price range. I agree that someone like Hayles could be good but he will cost £2.5m+. Shipperley would be a better bet at about £1m but coppell really doesn't have much money when you look at todays transfer prices.
Stephenson Soundbyter
14-07-2000, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by arussell on 07-14-2000 12:34 AM
Interesting choice of words Neil - not a fan of Marc then I take it ?
Depends on what kind of favour Neil is after doesn't it?
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Dai the Swansea Eagle
14-07-2000, 12:30 PM
What about the out of contract Jamaican Walter Boyd? I got to see one game at the Vetch last season and Boyd shone in very heavy conditions - had some outrageous touches and tricks and seemed to be a couple of seconds ahead of all the others on the pitch. Perhaps playing at a higher level would see him become more useful.
Also he is a Class A loon (witness is sending off in minus 11 seconds last season....).
Spikemeister
14-07-2000, 05:40 PM
The Croydon Guardian suggested we had bids in for Forsell and Steve Sedgely.
Re the money available.......it's all conjecture surely ? The £6m claim didn't emanate from the club.
And the Arsenal boys cost a down-payment of only £500K.... with the rest linked to appearances etc.
Slimbloke'H'
15-07-2000, 09:17 PM
I spent most of yesterday afternoon at Stamford Bridge, and the un-official feeling there was that Forsell will be going to Bolton on loan, Watch this space.
Gooders
16-07-2000, 01:50 AM
Bolton have signed Ricketts from Wallsall. That's the end of their chances of promotion anyway.
GreatGonzo
16-07-2000, 01:53 AM
Spike,
£500k EACH as a down payment BOTH rising to £1m linked to appearences
Spikemeister
16-07-2000, 04:31 AM
You sure Great Gonzo...?
I heard £500K the pair rising to £1m for both.
Eagle
16-07-2000, 04:44 AM
Originally posted by Spikemeister on 07-16-2000 12:31 AM
You sure Great Gonzo...?
I heard £500K the pair rising to £1m for both.
That's what i heard Spike.
It seems we payed £250,000 for both of them which obviously is £500,000 and will rise to £500,000 each depending on appearances which will make the combined fee of £1,000,000 for both of them together
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