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colin_cork
11-12-2005, 11:27 AM
Roy Keane could be set to end speculation over his future by signing for Real Madrid.

Reports emanating from Spain claim Keane is close to signing a short-term deal at El Santiago Bernabeu and that he has even undergone a medical at the Spanish giants.

The Irishman has been weighing up his options after sensationally quitting Manchester United last month.

A host of clubs have been chasing the former Republic of Ireland international with Keane proving an attractive proposition because of his free transfer status.

Keane was thought to be holding out for a move to boyhood heroes Celtic, but it appears they are struggling to finance a deal for the midfielder.

Everton, Bolton, West Ham, Portsmouth and Middlesbrough have all expressed an interest in him, but it appears Real are to win the race for his signature.

President Florentino Perez is believed to be a big fan of Keane and is ready to offer him a six-month deal until the end of the season with his position being reviewed at the end of the campaign.

Should Keane join Real he will link up again with former United team-mate David Beckham and his arrival would provide a massive lift for Real in the second half of the season as they battle for honours in the UEFA Champions League and La Liga.

Maidstoned Eagle
11-12-2005, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by colin_cork
Keane was thought to be holding out for a move to boyhood heroes Celtic, but it appears they are struggling to finance a deal for the midfielder.


Says it all about this money grabbing little shit. With all the money he's made out of the game, he can't even take a pay drop to join his "Boyhood heroes" for a last few years in the sun.

colin_cork
11-12-2005, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by Maidstoned Eagle
Says it all about this money grabbing little shit. With all the money he's made out of the game, he can't even take a pay drop to join his "Boyhood heroes" for a last few years in the sun.

maybe he just realised how shít a league it is

Absolution
11-12-2005, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by Maidstoned Eagle
Says it all about this money grabbing little shit. With all the money he's made out of the game, he can't even take a pay drop to join his "Boyhood heroes" for a last few years in the sun.
Yeah it sums it up really he was on 50k a week? or at least massive wages and he still wants more... mad.

Plus surely hes going to make money out of a move to management in the future?

Maidstoned Eagle
11-12-2005, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by colin_cork
maybe he just realised how shít a league it is

Nope, he goes to watch them all the time, he knew that already. He's only motivated by money, end of.

And as for Absolutions point about management, how long do you think he'll be into his first management posistion before he starts bleating about a lack of funds, but will he take a pay cut? Will he bollox.

El Aguila
11-12-2005, 11:50 AM
That move has "hysterically funny catastrophe" written all over it.

LSEagle
11-12-2005, 11:56 AM
I think Keane was on 90k a week at Man U so I wouldn't imagine he's going to run out of money anytime soon. If I was in his position I'd play for Palace for nothing.

Maidstoned Eagle
11-12-2005, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by El Aguila
That move has "hysterically funny catastrophe" written all over it.

Whats the betting he'll reckon he should manage Real as his first job?

colin_cork
11-12-2005, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by Maidstoned Eagle
Nope, he goes to watch them all the time, he knew that already. He's only motivated by money, end of.

And as for Absolutions point about management, how long do you think he'll be into his first management posistion before he starts bleating about a lack of funds, but will he take a pay cut? Will he bollox.


yeah he does go to watch them, but that doesnt take away the fact its a shIt league and he probably knows it

Diggers digs in?
11-12-2005, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by colin_cork
yeah he does go to watch them, but that doesnt take away the fact its a shIt league and he probably knows it

That's an aside really. How many of the Palace fans on the BBS would turn down a move to their favourite club even if it was a "shit league"? (assuming they were also a long way over the hill a la Keane)

colin_cork
11-12-2005, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by Diggers digs in?
That's an aside really. How many of the Palace fans on the BBS would turn down a move to their favourite club even if it was a "shit league"? (assuming they were also a long way over the hill a la Keane)

how many palace fans on the BBS would turn down a move to real madrid ;)

El Aguila
11-12-2005, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by Maidstoned Eagle
Whats the betting he'll reckon he should manage Real as his first job?
They've just appointed the manager of the reserves to look after the first team for the rest of the season. Keane's already looking up the Spanish for "you haven't got a fokkin' clue about football you cont" as we write.
How to destabilise a new manager, part 1 - sign an ageing Roy Keane.

eddieskyclad
11-12-2005, 12:48 PM
What the hell is people's problem with guys wanting to earn their maximum potential?

Sure he's made for life and has more money per week than some people see in 20 years but that's not the point. The point is he's worth what somebody will pay for him and he owes it to himself and his family to maximise that pay off. If for some bizarre reason you always loved Woolworths but then Boots asked you to work for them for 3 times the wages you'd be an idiot to turn it down.

Ollie Ox
11-12-2005, 01:07 PM
Real Madrid or celtic is hardly a tough choice.

Essexeagle
11-12-2005, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by eddieskyclad
What the hell is people's problem with guys wanting to earn their maximum potential?

Sure he's made for life and has more money per week than some people see in 20 years but that's not the point. The point is he's worth what somebody will pay for him and he owes it to himself and his family to maximise that pay off. If for some bizarre reason you always loved Woolworths but then Boots asked you to work for them for 3 times the wages you'd be an idiot to turn it down.

Because he has publically stated many times that he wants to finish his career at Celtic.

MikeyDread
11-12-2005, 01:21 PM
Originally posted by Maidstoned Eagle
Says it all about this money grabbing little shit. With all the money he's made out of the game, he can't even take a pay drop to join his "Boyhood heroes" for a last few years in the sun.

Is it ever sunny in Glasgow ? :eek:

colin_cork
11-12-2005, 01:38 PM
Originally posted by Essexeagle
Because he has publically stated many times that he wants to finish his career at Celtic.

and i suppose you went thur ur whole life without changing ur mind once..must be hard being perfect :S: :S: :S:

Diggers digs in?
11-12-2005, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by eddieskyclad
Sure he's made for life and has more money per week than some people see in 20 years but that's not the point.

Er, yes it is actually. How can it not be the point? How can you say that ANY footballer deserves 90k a week? Reality check time.

eddieskyclad
11-12-2005, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by Diggers digs in?
Er, yes it is actually. How can it not be the point? How can you say that ANY footballer deserves 90k a week? Reality check time. Because if the footballer wasn't getting it then some shareholders would be. Football is a multi-billion pound industry and if market value dictates he's worth 90k a week then by jove that's what he deserves.

The fans act like victims in all this "money's ruining football" malarky but at heart the fans have to take their fair share of blame instead of just blaming the player for looking out for his own interests.

Diggers digs in?
11-12-2005, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by eddieskyclad
Because if the footballer wasn't getting it then some shareholders would be. Football is a multi-billion pound industry and if market value dictates he's worth 90k a week then by jove that's what he deserves.

The fans act like victims in all this "money's ruining football" malarky but at heart the fans have to take their fair share of blame instead of just blaming the player for looking out for his own interests.

It's a good job we have people educated in business studies here to put us mere "fans" in our place. I mean, of course you're right. He's already a millionaire, but by not accepting the paltry £20k a week on offer from Celtic, he's definitely looking after his best interests.

Where's the sense of perspective? Of the bigger picture? Billions of people without food or clean water, and you say "well if the market says he's worth that then he is"? Everyone has the right to earn a good living, but this kind of attitude really stinks.

It's not just the money ruining football. It's the corporate greed, the people hoarding it and making sure the rich get richer that ruin it.

eddieskyclad
11-12-2005, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by Diggers digs in?
It's not just the money ruining football. It's the corporate greed, the people hoarding it and making sure the rich get richer that ruin it. And the fans merily demanding success and paying for it every step of the way...

Diggers digs in?
11-12-2005, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by eddieskyclad
And the fans merily demanding success and paying for it every step of the way...

Ah yes, those fans that pay £20-£30 a game, damn them. It isn't sky paying over a billion pounds for the TV rights, its those pesky fans!

bern5161
11-12-2005, 03:53 PM
I have always had a soft spot for Madrid and can't wait for Keane to join them. They have been crying out for a midfield enforcer every since Makelele joined Chelsea. Graveson was supposed to fill that role but even a senile, wee wee dribbling Roy Keane would be more of a menace than him. As for the financial side of things, surely that's a matter for the player and the club and not a bunch of jealous talentless armchair supporters. Good luck to you mate. I think you're going to need it.

eddieskyclad
11-12-2005, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by Diggers digs in?
Ah yes, those fans that pay £20-£30 a game, damn them. It isn't sky paying over a billion pounds for the TV rights, its those pesky fans! Not denying that the industry is at fault but the fans have to take a proportion of the blame for pushing the industry in that direction and throwing their money into it so gladly... the industry is supported by the fans willingness to pay. Without that the money would soon disappear. Anyways we're getting a tiny bit off topic here for sure but the players are just taking advantage of the situation that has been created as rightly they should.

Presuming the figures quoted here are accurate why should Roy Keene give up nigh on £4million a year just to sign for Celtic? It's a ridiculous notion to even consider it, all money is relative sure 20kpw is a hell of a lot of money but who in their right mind would willing take such a huge pay cut to do a job in Glasgow when he can do the same job in Madrid without the pay cut?

And besides if The Rock can demand $10million for making a movie or Elton John can be worth hundreds of millions why shouldn't a world class footballer be paid an equally high salary.

Diggers digs in?
11-12-2005, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by eddieskyclad
Not denying that the industry is at fault but the fans have to take a proportion of the blame for pushing the industry in that direction and throwing their money into it so gladly... the industry is supported by the fans willingness to pay. Without that the money would soon disappear. Anyways we're getting a tiny bit off topic here for sure but the players are just taking advantage of the situation that has been created as rightly they should.

Presuming the figures quoted here are accurate why should Roy Keene give up nigh on £4million a year just to sign for Celtic? It's a ridiculous notion to even consider it, all money is relative sure 20kpw is a hell of a lot of money but who in their right mind would willing take such a huge pay cut to do a job in Glasgow when he can do the same job in Madrid without the pay cut?

And besides if The Rock can demand $10million for making a movie or Elton John can be worth hundreds of millions why shouldn't a world class footballer be paid an equally high salary.

Two (or even three) wrongs don't make a right. Perhaps I'm a socialist bordering on communism (although I'm not - just to make that clear) but the distribution of wealth in this world is appalling. Regardless of how "relative" your earnings are in terms of your profession and how you are paid, when you earn enough to pay off the debts of a small country then something is wrong.

colin_cork
12-12-2005, 12:26 AM
Originally posted by Diggers digs in?
Two (or even three) wrongs don't make a right. Perhaps I'm a socialist bordering on communism (although I'm not - just to make that clear) but the distribution of wealth in this world is appalling. Regardless of how "relative" your earnings are in terms of your profession and how you are paid, when you earn enough to pay off the debts of a small country then something is wrong.

thats hardly roy keanes fault :rolleyes:

Diggers digs in?
12-12-2005, 09:14 AM
Originally posted by colin_cork
thats hardly roy keanes fault :rolleyes:

Which brings us back nicely to the original topic. No of course it's not his fault. But if he's a) already got enough money for the rest of his life and b) has the chance to play for his favourite (or whatever) club then why not?

I never blamed Roy Keane for the inequalities of wealth in the world. I do detest him for deliberately going out to try and end a mans career.

Golf Boy
13-12-2005, 06:53 PM
Originally posted by LSEagle
I think Keane was on 90k a week at Man U so I wouldn't imagine he's going to run out of money anytime soon. If I was in his position I'd play for Palace for nothing.

I think most of us would. It probably wouldn't make much difference on the pitch if we did

colin_cork
15-12-2005, 11:32 AM
Celtic have completed the signing of Roy Keane initially until June 2007.

More soon...

eddieskyclad
15-12-2005, 11:45 AM
So we going to hear an apology after the slur on Mr. Keene's character?

Roy Keane has ended weeks of speculation and completed his move to Celtic by signing an 18-month deal.

The 34-year-old Irishman, who ended his Manchester United career in November, had interested several Premiership clubs and Spanish giants Real Madrid.

But, when Madrid cooled their interest, Celtic seized their chance.

Keane's deal is believed to be worth £40,000 a week, with Parkhead majority shareholder Dermot Desmond reported to be paying for half of it.

Keane is set to be unveiled at a news conference scheduled for 1330 GMT.

The midfielder will not be eligible to make his Celtic debut against Hearts at Tynecastle on New Year's Day as Scottish Premier League rules do not allow same-day signings.

Keane will instead be aiming to face Clyde in the Scottish Cup third round the following weekend.

Premiership duo Bolton and Everton had approached Keane, while West Brom and West Ham were among other clubs to express their interest.

His move to Scotland comes after nearly 13 years under Sir Alex Ferguson at Old Trafford and a well-documented falling-out with the club.

Keane was reported to have been critical of a number of his Manchester United team-mates in an MUTV programme which was pulled from the schedules because of its content.

colin_cork
15-12-2005, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by eddieskyclad
So we going to hear an apology after the slur on Mr. Keene's character?

:) :) :) :p

El Aguila
15-12-2005, 12:01 PM
Wish he'd signed for Rangers.

Golf Boy
15-12-2005, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by El Aguila
Wish he'd signed for Rangers.

If they'd offered a grand a week more he would have ( he's got to think of his future you know:rolleyes: ).

Selhurst Celtic
15-12-2005, 01:06 PM
Great signing by the Bhoys.

Barry Ferguson will be bricking it in the next Old Firm.

Away Day Eagle
15-12-2005, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by Selhurst Celtic
Great signing by the Bhoys.

Barry Ferguson will be bricking it in the next Old Firm.

Ferguson gets it :cool: :lux: :lux:

:hi:

colin_cork
15-12-2005, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by Golf Boy
If they'd offered a grand a week more he would have ( he's got to think of his future you know:rolleyes: ).

which is why he took a £70,000 pay cut :rolleyes:

Golf Boy
15-12-2005, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by colin_cork
which is why he took a £70,000 pay cut :rolleyes:

How is that? I thought he was earning nothing right now. From what i can see it looks as though Real Madrid pulled out. If he was always going to Celtic why didn't he join them sooner?

Diggers digs in?
15-12-2005, 09:58 PM
Originally posted by colin_cork
which is why he took a £70,000 pay cut :rolleyes:

You should have been his agent really:

who in their right mind would willing take such a huge pay cut to do a job in Glasgow

Who indeed! Those market forces will be upset when they find out he's being paid 50k a week less than what he's worth!

AJ
15-12-2005, 10:21 PM
Originally posted by El Aguila
Wish he'd signed for Rangers.

Isn't Keane Catholic? Not many of them will play for Rangers..:confused:

Scifo
15-12-2005, 10:25 PM
Originally posted by Golf Boy
How is that? I thought he was earning nothing right now. From what i can see it looks as though Real Madrid pulled out. If he was always going to Celtic why didn't he join them sooner?

My guess, which I don't think is too far from the truth is that Real Madrid were never going to offer him the reported £100,000 per week but probably would have been prepared to offer him a more modest fee of around £40,000 to £50,000.

Had Keane said from day one thet 'Celtic is the only club for me etc. etc.' Celtic would have offered him a dreisorary wage of say £10,000 then insisted that the couldnt possibly afford any more.
I'm sure he would have signed for another club if he didn't feel Celtic were offering him what he thought they could reasonably afford or if it was clear that Celtics owners or management were actually not that keen on signing him but I think his flirtations with the great clubs like Real Madrid and Bolton were intended more to force the hand of his 'boyhood idols' into giving him a wage that could cover the cost of his daily livng expense better.

El Aguila
16-12-2005, 06:38 AM
I don't think that's right. I think Real Madrid pulled out - the coach didn't want him and nor did any of the heavyweight players, and they already have a couple of Keane types, only one of whom can really play in any given match.

colin_cork
16-12-2005, 04:04 PM
the more i read about this transfer, the more it seems like a p.r. stunt to be honest...what have celtic got to gain from signing keane

jersey sales is what i can see celtic gaining

they almost have the league won this season, probably next seasons as well, rangers are in so much turmoil so keane isnt going to add anymore to the side.. they might get 3 or 4 points more but thats only to add onto the the 17 or whatever they are ahead of rangers at the moment

st albans
16-12-2005, 04:08 PM
Originally posted by Scifo
great clubs like Real Madrid and Bolton

bolton :clown:

Diggers digs in?
16-12-2005, 06:36 PM
Originally posted by colin_cork
the more i read about this transfer, the more it seems like a p.r. stunt to be honest...what have celtic got to gain from signing keane

jersey sales is what i can see celtic gaining

they almost have the league won this season, probably next seasons as well, rangers are in so much turmoil so keane isnt going to add anymore to the side.. they might get 3 or 4 points more but thats only to add onto the the 17 or whatever they are ahead of rangers at the moment

Erm... Hearts are only 3 points behind. Obviously people think they won't last the pace but it's wrong to dismiss them at this stage, even with Rix in charge.