View Full Version : Who was Palace's worst player in living memory??
SIMON OF SELHURST
09-05-2000, 05:01 PM
ITZAK ZOHAR BY A NOSE IN FRONT OF PADOVANO.
James Verrinder
09-05-2000, 05:03 PM
And Amsalam. How could I forget him
M40 Eagle
09-05-2000, 05:11 PM
Here's a good un - Gary 'change your boots' Goodchild - Beat that !!!
Dillenger
09-05-2000, 05:18 PM
Easy.
Craig Foster.
Vic Eagle
09-05-2000, 05:23 PM
Originally posted by M40 Eagle on 05-09-2000 01:11 PM
Here's a good un - Gary 'change your boots' Goodchild - Beat that !!!
For sheer obscurity, I have to hand it to you M40 Eagle, Gary Goodchild is hard to beat. I'm sure I was at some of the games he played in, but I'll be buggered if I can remember him playing.
The only thing I do remember about him is reading about him in the programme notes one game and thinking to myself:
"Who the f**k is this Gary Goodchild?"
Anybody remember Les Carter? Was he crap or just obscure?
ZOHAR
09-05-2000, 05:30 PM
If only i had scored that penalty it may have been oh so different now...!
But what about CARL VEART ??!!!
Fat Andy
09-05-2000, 05:32 PM
might even go for Andy Roberts - makes Foster look creative !
I've seen a few down the years - remembering some of the above brings a chuckle or two - but the WORST ever has to be CRAIG FOSTER.
A useless, lazy, pile of horse manure if ever I saw one. P!SS OFF FOSTER !
Vic Eagle
09-05-2000, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by Dillenger on 05-09-2000 01:18 PM
Easy.
Craig Foster.
Given the number of players being nominated for this honour http://www.cpfc.org/ubb/sarcblink.gif I wouldn't think that it's easy to pick just one, Dillenger...in fact I've just thought of another contender -Steve Leahy.
Has he already been mentioned in a crap hairstyles thread?
Riccardo 'the cat'Parrini
09-05-2000, 05:52 PM
Gareth Taylor did and Craig Foster does make me cringe whilst watching them.
Fat Andy
09-05-2000, 06:02 PM
I have great memories of watching the talents of David Burke and Gary Stebbing. suppose Brolin wouldn't be too far off.
M40 Eagle
09-05-2000, 06:03 PM
Vic, Gary GC came on as sub i think just once, in a night game around 1982, I'll have to check with old progs when I get home !
He made everyone wait for about ages when the lino checked his boots + sent him down the tunnel - the ref actually waited for him to return !
On top of that, he was so bad that he never came on again !!
Can anyone else remember that night, or am I going nuts ??
Psychokiller
09-05-2000, 06:04 PM
Does anyone remember Les Strong? He could hardly walk, let alone kick a ball!
James Verrinder
09-05-2000, 06:11 PM
Bobby Mimms. He did alright in his one and only game but he goes in for reputation alone.
Gooders
09-05-2000, 06:12 PM
Well, all I can say is that obviously none of you are old enough to remember Mick Hill!
Dobbo
09-05-2000, 06:21 PM
If you remember Steve Leahy you'd probably hate Len Tompkins too, the least talented one of the famous twin sisters.
My nomination though is that famous ex-England centre-forward Derek Kevan, signed in July, scored his first goal on Boxing Day, shipped out soon after.
Chocky
09-05-2000, 06:21 PM
According to the records, Goodchild only played four times, all as sub:
79/80 - away Derby W2-1
79/80 - home FAC3 replay Swansea D3-3 (27,000 crowd!!!!)
80/81 - away Boro L0-2
80/81 - away FAC3 Man C L0-4 (god do I remember that)
Altogether now...who the f**k was Gary Good-child, who the f**k was Gary Good-child?
East-End Eagle
09-05-2000, 06:28 PM
Can't believe no one has mention the fat swede yet......
Fat Andy
09-05-2000, 06:30 PM
don't remember Goodchild but I think the Swansea game was my very first Palace game. was he as good as Andy Preece ?
Ralph
09-05-2000, 06:33 PM
Start of last season who would have said Dean Austin??
No me neither!
Leif Anderson!
Gareth Taylor!
Zohar!
Ismael?!
Rudi Hedman
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wedgetail
09-05-2000, 06:37 PM
My vote is Leif Anderson, he must be the only player, (while still playing for Palace) to score more goals against us than for us.
James Verrinder
09-05-2000, 06:42 PM
But he did set up Charltons goal in the first minute or so of th eplay offs. I almost cried before the mighty Kenny Brown stepped in
Fat Andy
09-05-2000, 06:45 PM
think Hopkin and Shaw scored more og's !
Ray Wilkins had a good spell at Palace as well !
louie
09-05-2000, 06:47 PM
how about Ricky Hepolette,anyone remember him?
Matty
09-05-2000, 07:15 PM
John Lacey. He was completely useless, if he was the last man back you new the opposition would score.
I can't accept Roberts as anywhere near the worst. In his first season with us, once he was fit, playing sweeper he looked real class. Great reading of the game, good long range passing. Who among those who saw it, could forget the goal after full time against Portsmouth? He was, rightly, player of the year that season.
Fat Andy
09-05-2000, 07:24 PM
agree with you about Roberts but remember that even Darren Pitcher could score a 30 yarder (v.wolves)!!
Gooders
09-05-2000, 08:50 PM
Andy Roberts is pants. But he's not even in the top 100 worst ever players.
He had one very good season.
Most of the guys being named here never had one very good half!
John Lacy - I'd forgotten him. He was dreadful.
How about Chris Jones ? he scored after about 3 minutes of his debut against Wolves but was utter toss. David Price as well. Alan Pardew and Phil Barber; I know they tried their hearts out but they were just plain not good enough.
Gooders
09-05-2000, 09:52 PM
No, no, no. You can't classify Super Al and Barber with these clowns.
Al can have been as crap as he likes - he will always be immortal for scoring the goal that laid the biggest ghost we've any of us been haunted by to bed and thus contributing to arguably the greatest day in our history.
And Barber may have been an average footballer but for sheer effort alone he keeps himself out of the reckoning for this award.
Adrian
09-05-2000, 10:47 PM
Gosh! Such venom! Such disdain! Clearly this is a thread to help us get it all off our chests!
Firstly, we're not allowed to be nasty about anyone who's played for Palace this year 'cos of the circumstances etc etc. And anyway, Foster's not THAT bad - wouldn't cut it it in the Premiership but we've had many worse.
Did anyone mention Brian Bason? And what about Danny Light? Those two made me ACHE with frustration.
And it was John Lacy, not David Lacey (who writes, I think, for the Guardian) - and, yes, he was a plonker, along with Jeff Hopkins (both centre backs - supposed to be anyway).
The geezer who gave me a lot of grief was Mike Flanagan: he played about 20 mins of good football for us (I counted) - all in a home game against Southampton.
But Aylott's got to be the winner.
Aylott. Bloody hell. WHAT a plonker.
Adrian
09-05-2000, 10:51 PM
I thought Derek Kevan was ok, actually, from what I can remember - which isn't much.
Andy Roberts? Hardly in the "worst" category, surely?
Len and Steve Tomkins weren't twins: L older than S. Len was pretty poor, though....
SteveB
10-05-2000, 12:32 AM
If Danny Light had dropped dead after his second game we would remember him as a great unfulfilled talent. He came in for the last two games of 1966/67 and scored three goals. That was it though. Hugh Brophy played the last 10 minutes of the second game - I believe the shortest ever Place career. I am not sure if he touched the ball.
Andersen must be close to the worst ever. I believe he looked OK in reserve games, which was probably why we bought him.
Fat Andy
10-05-2000, 01:09 AM
Marco Gabbiadini was a fat **** and for
£1.8 million proved a real bargain !
Iztak Zohar, Leif Anderson, Padavano, Brolin, Hedman, Ketteridge, Higginbottom, Aylott, Stebbing, MILLER!!! To name but a few.
Moontoad
10-05-2000, 02:28 AM
Gooders - Fear not I am old enough to remember Mick Hill and although my memory is somewhat vague he is the one player who always rises above all of the other dross to rank as my worse ever Palace player.I seem to have a picture in my mind of him always falling over the ball , failing to control it and generally showing all round donkey like qualities. Another forward around the same era (mid 70s) Neil Martin was real shocker too.
Del Boy
10-05-2000, 03:26 AM
Gooders.
You're absolutely right. In 25 years of coming to Selhurst, I've never seen such a pile of crap as Mick Hill. There was a guy who used to stand behind me on the Holmesdale who used to shout for him to "fc*k up off the other end" whenever he came back to defend for a corner.
Do you ever remember him partnering Paul Hinshelwood up front. There was one game where I remember Hinshelwood jumping for a long ball and missing his header by at least 10 feet!
Fat Andy
10-05-2000, 04:26 AM
I know we've had our fair share,but who's the worse anyone's seen ? I'll get the ball rolling with Trevor Aylott (I know he was a legend though)
James Verrinder
10-05-2000, 04:32 AM
Rudi Hedman, Leif Anderson, Patrizio Billio, Ornelas, Jerome Boere, Lee Sinnot, Walter Del Rio, Paul Mortimer, Gareth Taylor, Paul Trollope, Rory Ginty and Padavano
Gavin Axten
10-05-2000, 04:41 AM
2028
Chris Jones, Tommy Langley, Andy McColloch,David Lacey,Terry Fenwick(crap when he played for us), Steve Ketteridge,Andy Higgingbottom, Ally Brown & Paul Wilkins to name a few.
Vic Eagle
10-05-2000, 04:42 AM
Perm any combination of the crap teams of the early eighties...remember Brian Bason, Billy Hughes, Tommy Langley, David Price etc etc.
Gooders
10-05-2000, 04:46 AM
1. Mick Hill
2. Stan Goodwin
3. Itzak Zohar
4. David Amsalem
5. Gareth Taylor
Harry Holmesdale
10-05-2000, 04:47 AM
Michele Padavano, highly rated, ex-Juve, one-cap for Italy, yet the biggest pile of poo ever considering reputation etc, etc, not to mention his wages and demands since........now can anyone disagree with that??
Chocky
10-05-2000, 06:24 AM
Originally posted by Moontoad on 05-09-2000 10:28 PM
Neil Martin was real shocker too.
YES! What a pile of sh*te! And we got him from Brighton as well.
Bud Eagle
10-05-2000, 07:49 AM
TYping in rven my password and ID has beeen aan efforet considering then bender I have been out on since trabnmerte.
But Paul Stewart haas to feature hre. Loved Palace player in his time, but for a guy who was supposed to be a goalsscorer, he was s****. 2 goals? okay, maybe nont wortst player ever, but terrible anyway.
Gooders
10-05-2000, 02:14 PM
Hoorah! - people who remember Mick Hill. I think he'd actually scored quite a few goals for Ipswich before we signed him. **** knows how!
Didn't he have a waspish tache (bit of an Eddie)? I always thought he looked more like a high society sneak-thief than a footballer - a sort of David Niven lookalike.
I remember discussing him at school (Selhurst, natch) with Archiebald Leitch once - we'd heard he'd been injured and after we stopped cheering, Archie said "yeah, the wind got up and blew him against the goalpost and he busted his leg".
I've always remembered that line - it was quite witty for a 13 year old!
Gooders
10-05-2000, 02:26 PM
I've just remembered another one - "Wyn Davies" - played a few games on loan for us at the fag-end of his career and was well past his best!
Oh and Jimmy Scott - although he at least made me laugh!
Dario
10-05-2000, 02:54 PM
What about stuart Massey?, if my memory serves me he played one half against Sunderland in the championship season. Even a manager of Alan smith's calibere recognised that he was shocking. It amazes me how he stood out in what was a very good side then for all the wrong reasons!
Vic Eagle
10-05-2000, 03:07 PM
Originally posted by M40 Eagle on 05-09-2000 02:03 PM
Vic, Gary GC came on as sub i think just once, in a night game around 1982...Can anyone else remember that night, or am I going nuts ??
M40, although my progs are on the other side of the world from me I reckon GC came on as sub in a night game against Man City - was it possibly an FA Cup Third Round Replay?
Do I get a prize?
Vic Eagle
10-05-2000, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by Chocky on 05-09-2000 02:21 PM
According to the records, Goodchild only played four times, all as sub:
Oops clearly I miss out on the prize then - the thread's so popular I can't keep up.
If the worst player was judged by the most astonishly daring own goal, Jeff Hopkins would win it by a street for his amazing early doors effort for Millwall. I've never quite forgiven him for that one...as he's now manager of the mighty Gippsland Falcons (based in Morwell, Victoria - see 'Where are they now?' thread) and I am in Morwell in a few weeks, I could take the opportunity to discuss it with him.
On the other hand, I could just post a few dog turds through his letterbox...
wedgetail
10-05-2000, 03:22 PM
Isn't this a depressingly long thread?
James Verrinder
10-05-2000, 03:27 PM
Well we have had a depressingly large amount of **** players!
ammiller
10-05-2000, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by Gooders on 05-10-2000 10:14 AM
Hoorah! - people who remember Mick Hill. I think he'd actually scored quite a few goals for Ipswich before we signed him. **** knows how!
Didn't he have a waspish tache (bit of an Eddie)? I always thought he looked more like a high society sneak-thief than a footballer - a sort of David Niven lookalike.
I remember discussing him at school (Selhurst, natch) with Archiebald Leitch once - we'd heard he'd been injured and after we stopped cheering, Archie said "yeah, the wind got up and blew him against the goalpost and he busted his leg".
I've always remembered that line - it was quite witty for a 13 year old!
My memories of Mick Hill (who incidentally used to look like Mick Mills - also of Ipswich) was 1) Big Mal hired a helicopter in order to sign him in time for either transfer deadline day or in time for the next match - whatever,
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2) He scored the only goal in a game against Preston in 74-75 who boasted Sir Bobby Charlton as their player - manager.
There is no such thing as a worst ever Palace player - they are all lovely, lovely lads.
Except of course for Andy Roberts, Glyn Hodges and Andy Roberts again.
Much maligned players on this thread, who I thought were better than given credit for..
Mr 110%
Super-AL
Paul Mortimer
Marco.
Stan Collymore - he was crap.
Collymore, can you here me?
You beat up your girlfriends on a regular basis (allegedly).
Mickey Droy's twin
10-05-2000, 05:27 PM
The slowest striker of all time....
Jeff Bourne
Jeff Bourne ??! ... some mistake surely. His signing had a huge influence on us going up in 1976/77.`He scored loads from his signing on deadline day until the final match. He was disappointing thereafter and was gone pretty soon, but even so, for that one season he must have had one of the club's best goals per game ratios. Anyone got the figures ? There's a whole team of ex-Palace strikers worse than him.
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Glaws Eagle
10-05-2000, 07:11 PM
I think the worst Palace players, if there is such a thing, were all about in the mid/early eighties when we were languishing in the depths of the old second division.
I remember going to watch Palace play at Oxford on Boxing Day, about 1984, and seeing them get thrashed 5-0. Players like Higginbottom (?) were gracing the Palace colours ........... truly embarrasing!!
andy burton
10-05-2000, 07:31 PM
Has to be a team I think!
Miller (but realistically Barron?)
Bason
Fenwick
Ketteridge
Lacy
Price
McCulloch
Edwards
Hill
Higginbottom
Mortimer
Big Fella
10-05-2000, 07:42 PM
How can anyone forget Steve Galliers? Total pants! And what about Ken Doherty? (No not the snooker player, although he could probably play better). Finally Steve Ketteridge. Enuff said.
Palace Don
10-05-2000, 07:42 PM
ROBERTS!!!!!!!!!????????????????????//
My vote goes to one of three:
Padovano, Langley or Taylor
so who is the worst foreign signing then???
Palace Don
10-05-2000, 07:44 PM
Steve Galliers??? Didn't he play for Wombledon?
It was Ken O'Doherty mate
Big Fella
10-05-2000, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by Palace Don on 05-10-2000 03:44 PM
Steve Galliers??? Didn't he play for Wombledon?
He played 17 games for us, which was 17 too many in my opinion.
It was Ken O'Doherty mate
Of course it was. he was so bad I'd forgotten his name.
Nipper
11-05-2000, 01:06 AM
Let's not forget a man still "plying his trade" in the first division....the one and only Kevin Muscat.
He should be nominated not only for his total inability to play football, but also for his sly, dirty and generally disgraceful behaviour.
Fat Andy
11-05-2000, 03:15 PM
Andy Barnes - now playing in a pub team near you !
There's a lot of people on here slating Craig Harrison.
Has there been a worse player for Palace over the years? Mine would be Bruce Dyer or Michele Padovano. Any other suggestions?
dazza CPFC
11-11-2000, 01:13 AM
harrison and zohar
Yes, Zohar was complete crap, I'd forgotten him! What about Rudi Hedman (remember him!) - didn't he once come on as a sub and was then subbed himself !!!
Coveta
11-11-2000, 01:28 AM
Trevor "Donkey" Aylot or even John Sewell
Caravaggio
11-11-2000, 01:28 AM
My choice would be Gareth Taylor.
Latvian Eagle
11-11-2000, 01:47 AM
Bilio and Aylot!
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Pistike
11-11-2000, 01:57 AM
In my time Higginbottom, Ketteridge & Gareth Taylor.
jaybee
11-11-2000, 01:58 AM
Does no1 remember LEIF
Ross Lovelock
11-11-2000, 01:59 AM
No contest Mick Hill
Steve C
11-11-2000, 03:08 AM
Trever Aylott and Neil Smillie, also both the Isralies.
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Number 6
11-11-2000, 03:30 AM
How come no one ever mentions Chris Jones on worst player threads? His strike partnership with Tommy Langley will never be bettered for a total lack of skill, pace or any sort of ability whatsoever.
Steve Ketteridge
11-11-2000, 03:41 AM
Originally posted by Pistike:
In my time Higginbottom, Ketteridge & Gareth Taylor.
Do you mind?
I think Ray Wilkins (didn't he only play half a match?) and David Amsalam have to rank up there with some of the worst of recent times.
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I'd go for Gareth Taylor, Ketteridge & Zohar from the last 25 or so years.
arussell
11-11-2000, 04:25 AM
Valerian Ismael (like Gareth Taylor a Ron Noades signing) - memories of him being turned inside out by little Julian Joachim and giving away a penalty away at Villa.
Oh yes - and being outjumped by Carl Leaburn !!!!
Glaring Ommission. Although I seem to remember Ismael's debut v Leicester was fairly impressive.... ?
Vince Hilarious
11-11-2000, 09:31 AM
Tight one between Ismael and Zohar.....
Who was on the most dosh??
Eddie McGoldrick's tash
11-11-2000, 11:02 AM
Leif Anderson by a mile!
Ansalam 2nd!
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Welling Eagle
11-11-2000, 12:45 PM
Got to go with Mick Hill.
Until Leon Mckenzie turned up he must have had the worst strike rate, for a forward, in the club's history.
dangerous
11-11-2000, 12:54 PM
Ally Brown and Tony Mahoney were absolute toilet. Andy Mculloch and David Price were crap as well
ckaupang
11-11-2000, 01:42 PM
austin and andersen.
Jason
11-11-2000, 01:46 PM
Worst player ever HAS to be Lief Andesson. We have surely never had a worse player. Zohar would be second in my opinion.
I actually find it amazing that people are putting Gareth Taylor in "worst ever player" contention. Look beyond the very poor strike rate, and the performances were not bad. Has any player in history hit the woodwork or had more brilliant saves made againt him than Taylor. For my money, Taylor is the UNLUKIEST player ever to play for Palace.
Chocky
11-11-2000, 05:59 PM
Some dreadful players in the 80s doldrums, like Jones mentioned before, and dicks like Bason, Strong, Price, & Mahoney.
Does anyone remember Neil Martin from the 70s? He HAS to be the worst striker we ever had. Clueless, useless git we got from Brighton.
My worst player? Gary limp wrist wet blanket Stebbing.
Ruskin Old Boy
11-11-2000, 06:26 PM
Sad to see some of the names here...saw Ishmael and Padovano before and after they played for Palace. Hard to believe they were the same guys - must have been something about playing for Venables/Goldberg in that nightmare period. Anyone remember Charlie Woods? Used to run up and down the touchline - and nowhere else. Not the worst but must be up there with the "best" of them. I'd put Kevan at the top of the list - a disaster from start to finish...'tho in time Ruddock may make into the list
SteveB
11-11-2000, 10:08 PM
I vaguely remember Charlie Woods, and thought he was OK at the time. Kevan was useless, especially as he was supposed to be the replacment for the great Cliff Holton.
How about Dennis Uphill - one of our fattest players, although very occasionally brilliant and surprisingly lucky.
One of our worst players was Johnny Byrne, if judged only on his second session in 1967-68. Probably the fattest and most unfit player we had before Brolin. We must have got back twice as much of Byrne in weight terms in 1967 as we let go five years before that. Of course Johnny was one of the all-time Palace legends, although I still suspect that we got am imposter for his second run.
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James Chick
11-11-2000, 11:09 PM
Two Words:
Leif Andersen
LagerintheLegion
11-11-2000, 11:43 PM
How did Coveta come to the conclusion of Trevor Aylott and John Sewell were the worst players for Palace, T.A. with his superb skill in front of goal. J.S. with his blinding runs out of defence and superb passing ability made him one of Palace's great's.
In my book Kevin Miller and Clive Allen were the two worst player's ever to don the famous Red and Blue, or green in Miller's case.
muswell eagle
12-11-2000, 01:18 AM
Why has no one mentioned Alan Pinkney and there is also the aptly named Keith Whalley, whose only saving grace was a last minute equaliser against Millwall when we were down to 10 men and should have lost by 5!
Ruskin Old Boy
12-11-2000, 01:25 AM
Uphill...it was watching him
crystal eagle
12-11-2000, 02:06 AM
the worst players over the last 5 years are
1.zohar
2.ammalsemm he's that crap i cant spell his name
3.padavano
4.ismael
5.wilkins (ray)
6.miller who ait all the pies
7.anderson
8.leon mckenzie could just squeeze in
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Teggers
12-11-2000, 05:12 PM
Paul Mortimer and Ray Wilkins. Phil Barber also used drive me insane. But somehow I always managed to forgive him.
SteveB
12-11-2000, 09:22 PM
Some of Bert Head's worst signings: Borge Thorup, Per Bartram, Alan Pinkney (already mentioned), Sam Goodwin, Jimmy Scott, Terry Wharton.
The last two were quite distinguished players, but Bert got them when they were clearly past it. At least Bert didn't pay much for them, and mostly left them in the reserves. Bad players are so much less bearable if they are your record signings, like Kevan and Ismael.
Also Ian Lawson, signed at the same time as Kevan. So anonymous that, even after he had been in the team for half a season, no-one remembered what he looked like.
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Paul Jeeves
12-11-2000, 10:46 PM
Wot about Glenn Pennyfather or even our greatest ever first team coach - Brian Sparrow.
Archiebald Leitch
12-11-2000, 11:01 PM
Jeff Hopkin must rank with the worst of them.
Chris Leitch
12-11-2000, 11:02 PM
Brolin.
bucketbongeagle
12-11-2000, 11:09 PM
Jeff Hopkin ? he wasn't that bad compared to the likes of John Lacy, Trevor Aylott, Brolin and Ismael.
The Wave
12-11-2000, 11:20 PM
Rudi Hedman has to be up there. I remember being at a game against Charlton I think it was and there was this bloke in front of me on the Holmesdale and for the whole time he was on he shouted 'Get off the pitch Hedman'. Not gonna do much for the lads confidence really!!
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clubbruggekvfc
12-11-2000, 11:25 PM
Padavano for me. Certainly in terms of reputation and what we were supposed to pay for him. I can't believe we ever took him, seems like another case of the Silenzi syndrome. Was he signed on video evidence and a pushy agent's praises?
I know the poor sod went to Metz and suffered a bad injury in training just as the transfer was about to be done and dusted, but Metz agreed to the deal still going through. I've nothing of him since.
I could never work out if he was just useless, or not trying. Perhaps, in fairness to the bloke he was just a bit past it, and couldn't settle here. He certainly didn't join at the best of times for the club
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Gooders
13-11-2000, 12:05 AM
If nothing else, at least this thread may make a few people feel that perhaps Harrison isn't that bad after all.
Neil Martin - I'd forgotten all about him, he was dreadful. So was Jimmy Scott.
Tommy Langley or Mick Hill would be my worst ever though.
bucketbongeagle
13-11-2000, 01:05 AM
Did'nt we have Tommy Langley, Phil Barber, John Lacy, Gary stebbling, Chris woods, Mickey f**king Droy and Trevor Aylott all on the pitch at the same time ? Jesus wept....
EpsomEagle
13-11-2000, 01:57 AM
Cant see how people can just Ray Wilkins in his half a match - the man was pure class everywhere else he played.
For me, it's a toss up between Valerien Ismael, David Ansalem, Itzak Zohar and leif Andersson; which is probably what all of them could do best.
I thank ewe.
sideshow bob
13-11-2000, 03:45 AM
A few people have mentioned Leon which is well unfair.
Got to be Zohar,but the most hated easily 'Fatty'Miller.
Ian Hart
13-11-2000, 04:25 AM
I'd certainly go with Lacy as amongst our worst ever defenders. His rival for that accolade - and how come nobody seems to have mentioned him yet - would be Lee Sinnott.
As for strikers, if Jones and Mahoney could ever have been paired together, I suspect we could have gone an entire season without scoring.
Ruskin Old Boy
13-11-2000, 04:44 AM
I saw Padovano on French TV last year...he scored a cracking goal but has been plagued with injuries since he joined, er Palace
PhillyEagle
13-11-2000, 05:23 AM
Brian Bason!
interested in sydney.
13-11-2000, 09:19 AM
Steve B has said it all for me.Derek (who moved the goal )Kevan.Charlie Cook lazy git well past it when we got him.
Justin
13-11-2000, 11:01 AM
Worst player - Flanagan. Wen to see Palace train a few times at Mitcham just after we had signed him and he was nade to train in dustbin liners in a desperate attempt to get him to sweat off the excess stones.
philaire
13-11-2000, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by Justin:
Worst player - Flanagan.Justin, I think the Charlton effect is looming a little strong there!
I'm waiting for Skid Row to chuck in Foster.
Marco van Palace
13-11-2000, 11:19 AM
There's only one ----- Valerien Ismael...
Justin
13-11-2000, 11:33 AM
'There's only one-Ismael'. Thank f*ck for that. Imagine how bad the defence would have been with two of him in it.
Glaws Eagle
13-11-2000, 11:50 AM
Personally, I was no fan of Barry Silkman.
But there is loads to choose from.
Higginbottom?
Ismael?
The list is endless .........
SwedEagle
13-11-2000, 01:49 PM
There´s only one Tomas Brolin!
I remember it as it was yesterday.
Palace latest premiership campaign.
Swedish was going to show Barnsley Crystal Palace. Brolins first game in the starting 11.
After about 5 minutes Brolins finally got the ball. And he passes...
... NO, HE GIVES THE F***ING BALL TO BARNSLEY PLAYER WHO SCORES. He alone gave away three points. And he continues to deliver these "accurate" passes for the rest of the season.
But worst part has to be when people asks wwhich english team I support.
Me: Crystal Palace
Them: Oh, it´s because that Brolin played there isn´t it?
Ýeah right.
Gooders
13-11-2000, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by Justin:
'There's only one-Ismael'. Thank f*ck for that. Imagine how bad the defence would have been with two of him in it.
And dear old Uncle Ron is still saying that Ismael will be world star someday soon!
Admit it Ron, he was pants and you goofed big time.
Fatman
13-11-2000, 02:46 PM
Are we really forgetting Damian Matthew, Paul Mortimer and that fat bloke Thomas Brolin???? Others worth a mention. Marco Gabbiadini, Paul Bodin, Stuart Massey
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selhurstparkflyer
13-11-2000, 08:31 PM
for me the strike partnership of trevor aylott, tommy langley and tony mahoney takes some beating.
and if i am not mistaken satan was manager as well....dark days
Jack Regan
13-11-2000, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by Ross Lovelock:
No contest Mick Hill
Agree totally Ross.
I remember that that tw*t Allison hired a helicopter for £600 in order to get this Ipswich reject's papers to the FA in time for him to be registered to play for us.
Mick Hill?
We'd have been better off signing Benny Hill.
Matty
13-11-2000, 09:38 PM
1fbd
Why's everybody got it in for Ismael? He had one or two impressive games, whihc was more than could be said for the defenders around him at the time.
The all time rubbish players must include:
Bason, John Lacy (probably the worst footballer I ever saw), Gary "get rid of it" Stebbing and Steve "headless chicken" Ketteridge.
The recent players, Amsalem apart, are streets ahead.
Del Boy
13-11-2000, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by Jack Regan:
Agree totally Ross.
I remember that that tw*t Allison hired a helicopter for £600 in order to get this Ipswich reject's papers to the FA in time for him to be registered to play for us.
Mick Hill?
We'd have been better off signing Benny Hill.
One thing that I can guarantee that Jack and I can agree on is this.
We had this debate a couple of months ago, where Gooders and I were insistent that Mick Hill was the ONLY guy who could ever have won this contest. Glad to see that Ross Lovelock and Welling Eagle back up this viewpoint.
Mick Hill was SO bad that people actually laughed at him rather than abuse him, as was the case with guys like Brolin and Ismael.
Believe those of us who are fortunate enough to have seen him. There's only one Mick Hill!
(James - is there the faintest chance that you've got a 1970s video clip around somewhere that shows Mick Hill in action?).
James
13-11-2000, 09:59 PM
I'll have a look, but for what it's worth I agree with you and Jack. Anyone who doesn't think that Mick Hill was the worst of a bad bunch, clearly never saw him 'play'.
I hated Hill - mainly because I was so excited when we bought him, and he was such a let down.
Even Brolin had one decent game. Remember the excitement from Scandanavia when he signed for us? E-Goals was swamped with very strange messages in support. I'll try and dig out a few from the archives.
Ian Hart
13-11-2000, 10:57 PM
In fact I'll give you a whole team (a sort of nightmare 11) in 4-3-3 formation:
Mautone
Sparrow; Lacey; Sinnott; Dare
Bason; Pinkney; (Ali) Brown
Mahoney; Jones; Langley
Subs: Goodwin; Price; Scott; Hedman; Aylott
I think it's wrong to include the likes of Ismael, Padovano & Zohar. They might well be our worst wastes of money, but that not the same as being our worst players, bearing in mind they had to operate in the Premiership. If they'd been with us in a lower division, and been free transfers, I doubt they'd be considered as amongst our worst.
The squad I've selected would, I confidentally predict, not win a single match if they'd played in the Premiership.
Ross Lovelock
14-11-2000, 12:15 AM
To Jack Regan, Del Boy Welling And James M.
Thankyou for embelishing the Mick Hill stories Please will some one respond to my request for a fellow witness for his performance on the opening game of the season 1974/5 vs Brighton We should have got double figures and Mick Hill should be in the record books for being the first person to score 10 tap ins except he missed them all
I reckon I have seen nearly 1000 Palace games but I have never seen anything like this guy .He made Brolin look fast, McKenzie a good finisher and Fat Boy miller committed
philaire
14-11-2000, 01:56 AM
Originally posted by Ian Hart:
a sort of nightmare 11 in 4-3-3 formation:
Mautone
Sparrow; Lacey; Sinnott; Dare
Bason; Pinkney; (Ali) Brown
Mahoney; Jones; Langley
Subs: Goodwin; Price; Scott; Hedman; Aylott
Looks like Bradford City to me!
wedgetail
14-11-2000, 02:26 AM
I think it is remarkable that no one has mentioned Jeoren Boere!
Lief Anderson must get a honorable mention for his two unstoppable own goals!
But the worst single performance was by Gerry Murphy in a 0-0 draw in the early eighties. I can't remember the year and don't want to.
Ian Hart
14-11-2000, 02:32 AM
Wedgetail, the fact that Boere and Anderson weren't considered bad enough to get in the team above, just goes to demonstrate what a rich choice we have had to pick from!
Ismael is looking like a clear winner?...perhaps poor old Craig Harrison isn't as bad as we think?
PS - I still say Bruce Dyer wouldn't recognise a chance if it come up and slapped him round the chops.
Del Boy
15-11-2000, 03:28 AM
Originally posted by Ross Lovelock:
To Jack Regan, Del Boy Welling And James M.
Thankyou for embelishing the Mick Hill stories Please will some one respond to my request for a fellow witness for his performance on the opening game of the season 1974/5 vs Brighton We should have got double figures and Mick Hill should be in the record books for being the first person to score 10 tap ins except he missed them all
I reckon I have seen nearly 1000 Palace games but I have never seen anything like this guy .He made Brolin look fast, McKenzie a good finisher and Fat Boy miller committed
This was about the timme that I started to support Palace and was the time when the real Palace/Brighton rivalry began.
I can't rememeber if I saw this particular game. I do remember seeing them play Brighton just after we signed the other idiot mentioned on this thread, Neil Martin. He was terrible, but seemed Maradona like compared to Mick Hill.
The problem is that Ross's description could be applied to most of the games that he played in.
Howie Lurker
15-11-2000, 04:20 AM
Well I liked Leif... he was funny. And I thought Valerian had potential haha - no I think I just refused thge beleive our record signing was actually ****.
Bobby Bloody Bowry got on my tits more than any other Palace Player, light weight who looked like he was chained by an invisible 20 foot rope to the point where the half way line meets the touch line.
AndyStreet
17-08-2001, 02:58 AM
In my living memory:
Padovano
Ismael
Gareth Taylor
Jeroene Boere
Leif Andersen
There's got to be more worse than this that I cant remember
David Ansleam (sp) THE ISRALI BLOKE! :eek:
AndyStreet
17-08-2001, 03:01 AM
1f65
Oooo oooo Itzik Zohar
Any more??
Standpoint
17-08-2001, 03:02 AM
I might get abused for this - but what about Dean Austin
AndyStreet
17-08-2001, 03:03 AM
**Opens mouth in disbelief**
Youre comparing Deano to Itzik Zohar?????
Steve in Phoenix
17-08-2001, 03:05 AM
Originally posted by Standpoint
I might get abused for this - but what about Dean Austin
BOOO :angel:
IMHO - Jeroen Boere and Carl Veart.
I actually rated Padovano, Ismael and Amsalem even if I didnt like them. :p
David Tuttle
Ricky Newman
Bobby Bowry - I thought he was a nob!
Jason Cundy
Stuart Massey
AndyStreet
17-08-2001, 03:08 AM
Padovano didnt put a foot right in a Palace shirt. Everything he touched turned to sh!t
I liked David Tuttle though
Symon10
17-08-2001, 03:09 AM
Definitely Itzik Zokar!!!!!!!!
I thought Ricky Newman was ok :clown:
BUNGLE
17-08-2001, 03:14 AM
Kevin Miller, Dean Austin, Thomas Brolin, Padovano.
Pat of the Palace
17-08-2001, 03:36 AM
In my book they fall into 2 distinct categories;
1. useless triers; Lief, Veart, G Taylor, Zohar, Herman
2. tried to be useless; Padovano, Brolin(5 secs. after signing!),Hopkin(now), Ruddock(after 5-6 games),Lardy Miller, Svennson(at the end),
There are more I'm sure but I can't think now.
Does anyone disagree with any of those in 2?
Herman?? I thought he was good.
Timbo
17-08-2001, 03:49 AM
Andy McCulloch
Brian Bason
Kolinko on a bad day
Doris in the beginning
Venables
Most of them from the early eighties under Mullery
Pat of the Palace
17-08-2001, 03:55 AM
I always liked Herman too but he was a bit of a hoofer though!
Thats why I put him in the "triers" section:D
He was a bargain too (unlike some)
btw he scored an O.G. playing for Iceland yesterday:eek:
Ashfordian Eagle
17-08-2001, 03:56 AM
Originally posted by Timbo
Doris in the beginning
Who?
GreatGonzo
17-08-2001, 04:01 AM
Originally posted by AndyStreet
**Opens mouth in disbelief**
Youre comparing Deano to Itzik Zohar?????
I can't believe this either
Thats an insult to Zohar!
Captain Pizza
17-08-2001, 04:03 AM
Jamie Fullarton was truly awful. All he did was find the biggest space on the field and run into it.
I thought of him, but there has been much worse. The last I heard of him he was playing in Scotland. In his last match, he broke his leg in three places and dislocated his ankle. They nearly amputated his foot on the pitch! :eek:
Timbo
17-08-2001, 04:12 AM
Paul Hinshelwood, Laddie!
Crikey I must be older than I thought!
Pat of the Palace
17-08-2001, 04:17 AM
BTW happy birthday OOCO:p
So it is! Ta very much! :p
yorkshire eagle
17-08-2001, 04:19 AM
i named my basset hound after padavano she called dearheath(the stud name) micheale she lovely but likes to sleep a lot and never runs after a ball. if she does she carnt pick it up. suits her the name1:p
pete eagle
17-08-2001, 04:23 AM
padavano was useless, bonetti anyone remember him, brolin, zohar,
Herman was good, just look what happened to him, we sell him to brentford for peanuts then the wombles get him and sell him on for £4.5m
Ahh! Walter Del Rio. Utterly crap!
P.S It is, apart from my birthday, National Vanilla Custard Day!
pete eagle
17-08-2001, 04:34 AM
i thought del rio was good but it was just that we mucked him about so he went to to dundee where i believe he is doing well
He was on a season loan from Boca and he only played twice for the first team. Ended up dangling around. Maybe he was good, but not for us.
pete eagle
17-08-2001, 04:39 AM
was he on a seasons loan, because ive got a programme from a couple of seasons ago in Feb that we had signed him on loan for a bit
James Melody
17-08-2001, 04:41 AM
I'm sorry but the worst player I can remember us having was Lee Sinnott. What a pile of pants!!! And Marco Goalo must be up there as well purely on a naffness to cash spent ratio!
Yes that right! We had some other Argi with him as well, I'm sure! Were there two of them?
2099
DennisUphill
17-08-2001, 04:45 AM
You should've seen Dennis Uphill in his prime
Woeful!
pete eagle
17-08-2001, 04:45 AM
yes we did i cant quite remember him, it was some foreigner on loan
he looked okay as well, skilful
De Ornelas was his name right?
GreatGonzo
17-08-2001, 04:47 AM
Marco Goalo had quite a good games to goals ratio i believe!
Nah, that was a season ago. He came from Venesuala (sorry can't spell) and was on a month to month. I saw him have a trial for Celtic last year.
pete eagle
17-08-2001, 04:51 AM
marco did pretty well for us as i remember,
Amir Karic was another donkey, one of smith's intuitive loan signings:rolleyes:
Mal Come Ally Son
17-08-2001, 04:52 AM
Oi - leave Brolin alone. OK, he wasn't as good as we hoped, but when we signed him (about December of that season?) he hadn't played or even trained since he'd left Leeds about four months earlier. And he said so publicly - "I'm not fit, but Steve Coppell has asked me to play so I'll do the best I can".
Now - that young man who doesn't know who Doris is. 500 lines for you.
Interesting choice of Venables. He was CRAP. But fortunately he only played a handful of games before Allison put him onto coaching.
But the worst players of all time competition has three in joint first position. Borge Thorup (ca 1968), Zohar, and Amsalem.
pete eagle
17-08-2001, 04:54 AM
de ornelas was here in the same season as del rio, in S.C.'s last season i think, i dont think we signed anyone else from Boca on loan just del rio, and de ornelas from venesualas
pete eagle
17-08-2001, 04:55 AM
amsalem was a donkey everywhere, brolin did ok for us, but it werent his fault, and again i say it Amir Karic
Well said about Brolin. He had the right attitude unlike some. Before you make me do 500 lines, who the hell is Doris!
I must be wrong with de ornelas. I'm sure he played when we had that Brazilian dude who played for free.
pete eagle
17-08-2001, 04:59 AM
brolin did have the right attitude, and del rio and de ornelas where here at the same time del rio played for free cause boca didnt want him
Brazilian dudes name began with F. He was not that bad.
pete eagle
17-08-2001, 05:03 AM
F? anyone want to help us out here coz i aint got a clue
pete eagle
17-08-2001, 05:09 AM
im sure its de ornelas you are talking about because we had him on loan and del rio playing for free, ive scouted through a couple of programmes from last season that has matches from the season before and theresno mention of a bloke with F starting his surname, and on that im going to bed
Steve in Phoenix
17-08-2001, 05:20 AM
For some reason Im thinking Fumaca ? Moved on to Newcastle with a coach whose name began with W.
The Argentinians liked with palace were Cristian Ledesma and someone Rodrigues (both U21s) for 2m the pair Never materialised. :(
Ashfordian Eagle
17-08-2001, 05:26 AM
Originally posted by Mal Come Ally Son
Now - that young man who doesn't know who Doris is. 500 lines for you.
Is it Roger?
DennisUphill
17-08-2001, 06:37 AM
Originally posted by Ashfordian Eagle
Is it Roger?
Hinshelwood.
philaire
17-08-2001, 06:47 AM
Newbies may also wish to check out the following threads:
http://www.cpfc.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1984&highlight=worst
http://www.cpfc.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1848&highlight=worst
Also many threads for worst team ever
TC EAGLE
17-08-2001, 10:59 AM
DAVID PRICE
NZsparky
17-08-2001, 11:54 AM
Everytime this thread repeats itself, I will keep putting up John(handbag)Lacy.
Guido
17-08-2001, 12:22 PM
Mark Dennis, undoubtedly!
Gooders
17-08-2001, 12:22 PM
Doris was a guy named Paul Hinshelwood and I would guess that a lot of you weren't born when when he made his debut for Palace.
He started out as a centre-forward (as they were called in those days) and was absolutely awful.
He ended up playing right back for many, many years and was much better in that position.
Scored a memorable goal from about 40 yards in a 3-2 defeat at Selhurst to the Liverpool of Keegan and Toshack days when we were a third division team.
His brother Martin was an injury prone but talented midfielder for us but had to retire at about 24 I think. Probably a knee injury, which they weren't too good at fixing back then - these days he'd only have been out for 6 months.
Worst player ever? Mick Hill, without question.
Smurph
17-08-2001, 12:23 PM
Originally posted by Timbo
Paul Hinshelwood, Laddie!
Crikey I must be older than I thought!
Although the fans called him Doris, the players and staff called him Fish
There were several players in the Mullery era who were very very poor. They were also very similar so they have all merged into one in my memory. Players like Galloway & Higginbottom come to mind. I never rated David Burke. Newman, Bowry and Tuttle definitely don't deserve a mention in the same category
1f55
Hemeleagle
17-08-2001, 12:25 PM
must of been Rudi Hedman:D
Hemeleagle
17-08-2001, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by Smurph
Although the fans called him Doris, the players and staff called him Fish
There were several players in the Mullery era who were very very poor. They were also very similar so they have all merged into one in my memory. Players like Galloway & Higginbottom come to mind. I never rated David Burke. Newman, Bowry and Tuttle definitely don't deserve a mention in the same category
I also seem to remember him having the nick name spider.
Gooders
17-08-2001, 12:32 PM
No, Spider was Rachid Harkouk. And he certainly wouldn't be mentioned on this thread.
ammiller
17-08-2001, 12:54 PM
I don't usually think of worst players as, once they pull on the beautiful shirt, I try and focus on the good stuff.
But for Steve Galliers, I will make an exception..........
BTW, 2 players who I thought were ok, but will undoubtably make it onto this thread would be Brian Bason and Paul Mortimer.
Daddy Long
17-08-2001, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by Standpoint
I might get abused for this - but what about Dean Austin
Here here.
Sandowneagle
17-08-2001, 01:10 PM
I hate Ismael with a vengence. He was pants especially as he cost so much. But my vote goes for a player who only played a couple of times and one who at his best won a championship medal but by the time we got him he was pants. That man is
TONY GALE[/SIZE]
BaldEagle69
17-08-2001, 02:36 PM
Zohar
Paul Mortimer
Trevor Aylott
These three would gwet my vote any day!
hellsbells
17-08-2001, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by AndyStreet
Oooo oooo Itzik Zohar
That name makes me cringe :hmph:
Tapps
17-08-2001, 02:44 PM
how about jamie fullerton!!! god he was awful. although leif anderson was funny. and do u all remeber when G. taylor headed over the stadium!! in a on goal strike lol
hellsbells
17-08-2001, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by Tapps
how about jamie fullerton!!! god he was awful. although leif anderson was funny. and do u all remeber when G. taylor headed over the stadium!! in a on goal strike lol
Fullerton's best moment was when he clattered Beckham against Man U when we were in the prem, I liked him then :D :D
Tapps
17-08-2001, 02:49 PM
i remeber that hehehe ppl think of any more Perry Suckling maybe!!!
Originally posted by pete eagle
F? anyone want to help us out here coz i aint got a clue
Jose Antunes Fumaca? -quite talentedm but couldn't be @rsed.
I'd go for Sinnott, Ismael, Amsalem and Boere.
What a load of rubbish.
Originally posted by Guido
Mark Dennis, undoubtedly!
You must be mad!:cool:
Mick Hill
Stan Cummings
Brian Bason
Per Bartram
John Lacy
Steve Ketteridge
Andy HIgginbottom
Amir Karic(at least we didnt buy him)
Itzak Zohar
Steve Mautone
Gary Stebbing
Andy McCulloch
Ray Wilkins(what a contribution to CPFC he made)
On another note, In the Arthur Wait at the time Paul Hinslewood was always referred to as 'the Goat'
Benzhiyi
17-08-2001, 04:04 PM
Lee Badbuy
Lief Andersen
Tomas Brolin
Is **** So Far (AKA Zohar)
Worst of all goes to...
AMIR KARIC
!!!!!!!!!!!
Tapps
17-08-2001, 04:05 PM
ok beat this one played all of 10mins 4 us patrizio billio!
hellsbells
17-08-2001, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by Benzhiyi
Worst of all goes to...
AMIR KARIC
!!!!!!!!!!!
how could we forget him!! when he was subbed after bout 30mins v w'don in the 'away' game couldnt help but laugh :o
tauranga rob
17-08-2001, 04:15 PM
Reading this thread makes me feel so old!
How can anyone say Doris was crap - what about the screamer he scored against the Scousers?
What about little Glen Pennyfather? If I remeber rightly, he was ex-Ipswich (or possibly ex-Womble). 5-foot nothing sack of cack.
candide
17-08-2001, 04:19 PM
austin gets my vote.
i never thought zohar was that bad.
i wasnt at THAT game, but before that i thought he was ok.
(Veart was also very bad for a very long time,but he did well towards the end(maybe theres hope for austin?))
Originally posted by DennisUphill
You should've seen Dennis Uphill in his prime
I agree he was truly awful but Derek Kevan! ran him close. (Without the running of course)
Chris Jones anyone ? You could pick a whole team of Mullery signings though.
I know he rehabilitated himself as a Palace legend, but Alan Pardew was truely awful in his first season and a half. Phil Barber got pretty dire at times as well; Steve Coppell's Mr 110% which was unfortunately 100% effort plus 10% talent.
coulsdon_eagle
17-08-2001, 04:44 PM
1f58
Glen Pennyfather came from Southend. We Paid £150,000 for him. ????
GreatGonzo
17-08-2001, 04:56 PM
Can't understand Paul Mortimer, personally i had a falling out with the guy but he wasn't that bad!
If he hadn't have threatened my life for me getting friendly with is nice young wife then all would have been well! :D
tauranga rob
17-08-2001, 05:00 PM
Originally posted by coulsdon_eagle
Glen Pennyfather came from Southend. We Paid £150,000 for him. ????
I thought we sold him to Southend (in return for some Turtle Wax for Uncle Ron's Merc) - but thanks for setting me straight, Coulsdon.
Do you think he was worth the money?
It speaks volumes for this great club of ours that a worst player ever thread should rack up more replies in one day than the best ever goal thread managed in 10.
Eric the Ginga
17-08-2001, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by PJ
It speaks volumes for this great club of ours that a worst player ever thread should rack up more replies in one day than the best ever goal thread managed in 10.
Concur!
However, worst player (since Dec 1966)......Trevor Aylott....comfortably.He wouldn't have got into my kid's school side (and she's at an all-girls school)
Best goal? I reallly think Rubins goal at Leicester was the best I've seen any Palace player score ever. It makes me wonder why (apart from the Liverpool goal) he's been so abysmal since?Y Y Y Dean Austin
E_girl
17-08-2001, 05:31 PM
Tomas Brolin :grrr:
Shane
17-08-2001, 05:47 PM
I am surprised no one has mentioned Ricardo Fuller.
I swear that when he played he was wearing plimsols. How else can you explain the lads inability to stay on his feet?
Imagine a forward line with Fuller & Aylott.....
Frightening :eek:
Tapps
17-08-2001, 07:39 PM
cmon patrizzio billio!!!!!!
Txomin Etxaniz
17-08-2001, 08:47 PM
So many to choose from, but my nominations are...
Tommy Langley - ha ha ha ha ha ha ha (not to mention his pudding bowl)
Tony Mahoney - possibly worse than Langley, but not as funny
David Price - how on earth did he make it at Arsenal?
STOP! This is reminding me of just how depressing the Mullery era was (and I haven't even mentioned Lacy, McCullough, Stebbing, Ketteridge, Aylott, etc, etc, etc). A "Lifetime Achievement Award" is due here, surely.
More recently, I've been particularly impressed with the achievements of...
Lief Anderson - turning circle of a supertanker (probably make a good decathlete though)
Richard Harris - still v. young, but shows promise - could be a future contender for this crown (or javelin perhaps)
Thomas Brolin - for best supporting head bandage (erm... no obvious track & field talent)
Lots of others, obviously, mainly foreigners with Vegetables connections.
Yep, Palace have truly excelled in this field over the years.
Basingstoke Eagle
17-08-2001, 09:14 PM
Oh the memories !!! Excellent reply Txomin:D :D :D :D For those too young to remember Mullery managed to produce a team of complete arse.I havent seen Ian Edwards mentioned,i guess the goal he scored against Burnley to keep us up was his saving grace.
Del Boy
17-08-2001, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by Gooders
Worst player ever? Mick Hill, without question.
When I saw the title of this thread, I looked for Gooders post straight away.
I knew who his answer would be and he is absolutely right. No ex-Palace player can truly claim to reach the levels of awfulness that Mick Hill achieved. He was that bad that he became a cult figure on the terraces.
I believe he was flown to the ground by helicopter from Ipswich for Malcolm Allison to sign before transfer deadline day (I'm sure Gooders will put me right if I've confused him with another player - Neil Martin is the other one I'm thinking of).
Mick Hill was a forward who would have missed the goal even if he'd been standing in the back of it. He made players such as Itzhik Zohar, Amir Karic and others look like Maradona, Pele or Cruyff in their prime.
Flight 7
17-08-2001, 10:41 PM
Brian Bason
Tommy Langley
Dean Austin
John Lacey
Gooders
18-08-2001, 12:27 AM
Originally posted by Del Boy
Mick Hill was a forward who would have missed the goal even if he'd been standing in the back of it...
:D
SteveB
18-08-2001, 12:29 AM
Dennis Uphill was a terrible player, and was almost in the Byrne / Brolin class for being overweight.
But he scored quite a few goals, and, even if he was playing at his worst, we normally seemed to win when he was in the team.
Derek Kevan and Ian Lawson - Lawson was so anonymous that everyone forgot what he looked like 10 minutes after the end of the game.
Lief Andersen was the worst I've seen in the last 10 years or so, although I somehow managed to miss Amsalem's entire career.
welshneil
18-08-2001, 06:56 PM
Did I miss Terry fenwick's name here or have we all forgotten his dire, hesitant, blank manner of play that normally ended up with a diabolical pass!!! Stuart Massey ******** too!
I recall Paddy Mulligan with some horror - it wasn't that Padders was a really bad player, he was just so totally and utterly unpredictable, you never knew what to expect even from the simplest play in slow motion.
Dave Nunn
19-08-2001, 03:49 AM
209b
Must be Trevor Aylott, but I forgive him because he made me laugh. :D
Adrian & Clare
19-08-2001, 04:03 AM
Worst player has to be LEIF ANDERSON how can abyone forget the Leeds cup game aaaaarrrggghhh!!!!!:eek:
PhillyEagle
20-08-2001, 08:18 PM
Brian Bason, with Dean Austin a close runner-up.
Benzhiyi
20-08-2001, 08:46 PM
Kenny Verhoene? Remember him?
Another inspired Smith signing........ had one touch in the first team as far as I remember and it was a dreadful headed clearance to the opposition... pile of w*nk!!!!!
SIMON OF SELHURST
20-08-2001, 08:50 PM
Itzak Zohar by a mile, My Mum was better than him!
Txomin Etxaniz
20-08-2001, 09:46 PM
Originally posted by welshneil
Did I miss Terry fenwick's name here or have we all forgotten his dire, hesitant, blank manner of play that normally ended up with a diabolical pass!!! Stuart Massey ******** too!
Now that's a tricky one, welshneil. Whilst Terry F***wit was certainly a pretty poor player, I'm not sure he's in the same league as yer Lief Andersens and Tommy Langleys. I see him as the Phil Neville of our great Youth Cup side, basking in the reflected glory of vastly superior teammates (i.e. Sansom, Nicholas, Murphy, Gilbert & :afro: )
In fact, I reckon F***wit deserves a category all of his own:
"Worst Palace player to win full international honours for a major country"
Can anyone recommend other worthy candidates for this accolade?
Sarum
20-08-2001, 09:51 PM
Trevor Aylott gets my vote. He made Micky Droy look fast.
nookiebear
24-08-2001, 02:07 PM
My favourites from the past ten years
GK – Kolinko – sorry, but not even Perry made howlers like this (Perry got a lot of blame for the 9-0 which I thought was unfair)
LB – Ansalem – Surely a practical joke from El Tel’s infamous chirpy ‘humour’. Karic gives him a good run for his money, though.
CB - Sinnott – And he had stupid ears
CB - Ismael – Made Leaburn look like Ronaldo
RB -Pitcher – 6-1 defeat to Liverpool,. His performance at RB one of the best I’ve seen
M - Mortimer – couldn’t run, shoot, or pass, rotting in the reserves on a big fat pay cheque
M – Zohar – Nuff said.
M – Brolin – I know a great story about him, not one for threads. Though!
Padovano – The song ‘Can someone shoot Padovano’ will be one I tell my grandchildren
Taylor – streak of p!ss
Before that, Aylott, every time! :eek:
Tapps
24-08-2001, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by PhillyEagle
Brian Bason, with Dean Austin a close runner-up.
cmon deano has done well 4 us when we needed him. just looking a bit old now.
LegalEagle
24-08-2001, 02:53 PM
I was happily scrolling through the names in all of these posts and I just KNEW that Gary Stebbing would be in there somewhere. And here he is - thanks mate. Also good to see Higginbottom, Aylott and Price receiving the various mentions they most certainly deserve.
Originally posted by 917k
You must be mad!:cool:
Mick Hill
Stan Cummings
Brian Bason
Per Bartram
John Lacy
Steve Ketteridge
Andy HIgginbottom
Amir Karic(at least we didnt buy him)
Itzak Zohar
Steve Mautone
Gary Stebbing
Andy McCulloch
Ray Wilkins(what a contribution to CPFC he made)
On another note, In the Arthur Wait at the time Paul Hinslewood was always referred to as 'the Goat'
LegalEagle
24-08-2001, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by PJ
It speaks volumes for this great club of ours that a worst player ever thread should rack up more replies in one day than the best ever goal thread managed in 10.
Surely this would be the case with most clubs? They've all had their donkeys.
A great goal is a one off - hard to remember many of them unless they were truly stunning. But these players earned their places in the fans' memories (and in the case of the committed triers like Austin, the fans' affections) over long periods. At Christmas I'll still be able to recall Deano's piece of ballet on Saturday that led to Bruce finally taking him off, but Aki's goal will probably have gone (hopefully because he'll have scored so many more by then).
NRM the 2nd
24-08-2001, 03:18 PM
Damien Matthew, Zohar, That bloke we had in goal at forest 2 years back, Anderson, Fuller, Ismael (Mainly for his performance against Wimbledon) and one my dad says he remembers seeing play for us for a very short spell, John Fashanu.
Rudi Hedman was pretty woeful along with Stan Collymore and Lee Sinnott.
Tapps
24-08-2001, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by Kai
Rudi Hedman was pretty woeful along with Stan Collymore and Lee Sinnott. Stan Collymore went on to be ok thou
Psychokiller
24-08-2001, 03:41 PM
My turn. Hmmmm.
John Lacy
Les Strong
Brian Bason
Chris Jones
Tommy Langley
Gary Stebbing
Steve Galliers
Steve Ketteridge
Steve Hardwick
Andy Higginbottom
Glenn Pennyfather
Terry Fenwick
Andy McCulloch
Tony Evans
Tony Mahoney
Steve Mautone
Gareth Taylor
Itzik Zohar
Tomas Brolin
Rudi Hedman
Amir Karic
Terry Howard
Paul Mortimer
Jamie Moralee
David Tuttle
Leif Andersen
Lee Sinnott
David Ansalem
Trevor Aylott
I'll update as and when I think of more, and there's loads more!
Riccardo
24-08-2001, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by Captain Pizza
Jamie Fullarton was truly awful. All he did was find the biggest space on the field and run into it.
He wasn't awful. OK, not the most gifted player in the world....maybe not in South London - but he loved the club and played his heart out. In administration (DON'T BRING THAT UP ANYMORE !!!) he always battled.
1af2
Riccardo
24-08-2001, 04:08 PM
Originally posted by hellsbells
how could we forget him!! when he was subbed after bout 30mins v w'don in the 'away' game couldnt help but laugh :o
He really looked like a guy who had NEVER played football before in his life. Andrew Frampton will NEVER get a better round of applause for coming on for him.
nookiebear
24-08-2001, 06:50 PM
I forgot about Stuart Massey! :eek:
Dai the Swansea Eagle
25-08-2001, 05:16 AM
Craig Foster - pound for pound on the salary front by far the worst player to have pulled on a Palace shirt.
clivet
25-08-2001, 05:52 AM
It's surely got to be Tomas Brolin - came on as a sub at Highbury and looked like he just had a heavy lunchtime session down the local!!
Santos-er
25-08-2001, 08:18 AM
Rhys Wilmot. Got us relegated puching a cross in his own net and then carrying the ball over the line when we lost 3-1 at Southhampton.
bruciebonus
25-08-2001, 11:35 AM
Sad my first post is a negative one, but in no order: Bason, Sinnott, Stebbing. I also thought Fenwick was bad at the time, but everything is relative.
Ben H
04-09-2001, 12:27 PM
Austin, Austin, Austin.
James Varcoe
04-09-2001, 03:40 PM
Steve Ketteridge summed up the depths to which we had sunk in those far off days.
He had absolutely no ability whatsoever. From minute 1 to 90 he would run in a largeish circle in and around the centre of the pitch.
Sadly for him that meant that about 4 times a match he would arrive at the same place as the ball which would result in predictable embarrasment.
This however he would quickly shrug off and continue with his mindless random running pattern.
Ben H
04-09-2001, 03:44 PM
I'd forgotten about him. I agree, completely useless. The team of 84-85 (Coppell's first season) has to be the worst I can remember. Think how many crap players we had back then: Aylott, Murphy (well past his best), Stebbing, Mahoney, Locke (!remember him!), Sparrow, Lindsay. What a team of complete donkeys:(
Psychokiller
04-09-2001, 03:45 PM
Oh god, yes, Ketteridge!
Does anyone else remember the way he used to scream and run like a caveman, presumably to distract the opposition, everytime a free kick was taken.
Awful. Bloody awful!
Pistike
04-09-2001, 05:23 PM
Originally posted by Psychokiller
My turn. Hmmmm.
John Lacy
Les Strong
Brian Bason
Chris Jones
Tommy Langley
Gary Stebbing
Steve Galliers
Steve Ketteridge
Steve Hardwick
Andy Higginbottom
Glenn Pennyfather
Terry Fenwick
Andy McCulloch
Tony Evans
Tony Mahoney
Steve Mautone
Gareth Taylor
Itzik Zohar
Tomas Brolin
Rudi Hedman
Amir Karic
Terry Howard
Paul Mortimer
Jamie Moralee
David Tuttle
Leif Andersen
Lee Sinnott
David Ansalem
Trevor Aylott
I'll update as and when I think of more, and there's loads more!
AND WHAT MIGHT I ASK WAS WRONG WITH TERRY HOWARD?
Pistike
04-09-2001, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by Psychokiller
Oh god, yes, Ketteridge!
Does anyone else remember the way he used to scream and run like a caveman, presumably to distract the opposition, everytime a free kick was taken.
Awful. Bloody awful!
James and I would stand in the Arther enclosure in wonder at his ability to arrive just after the ball had gone consistently throughout an entire 90 minutes.
I'm sure we counted a game when he had less than ten touches, certainly nobody would ever pass to him.
Psychokiller
04-09-2001, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by Pistike
AND WHAT MIGHT I ASK WAS WRONG WITH TERRY HOWARD?
Umm, he was WORSE than Gary Locke maybe?
Ben H
04-09-2001, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by Psychokiller
Umm, he was WORSE than Gary Locke maybe?
Terry Howard only played 4 games on loan from Chelsea and did OK. Not one of our worst players IMHO.
Locke was pants.
Psychokiller
04-09-2001, 05:51 PM
Originally posted by Ben H
Terry Howard only played 4 games on loan from Chelsea and did OK. Not one of our worst players IMHO.
Locke was pants.
Well, admittedly I was only about 13 at the time, but I distinctly remember him be absolutely pants!
DE - Glad All Over
04-09-2001, 05:54 PM
Who was that dreadful player from Charlton we got - Paul ???
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