Horse & Greyhound Betting tips [Archive] - Page 10

hakers

24-08-2006, 11:13 PM

Originally posted by hakers

Early york picks for tomorrow are:
1.45 - Cockney Rebel e/w - I'm likeing this one too MS, this look potentially a machine in the making. His lack of experience puts my off slightly but this is potentially a class above this lot. This could see a sizable wedge heading our way :)
2.15 - Indian Ink e/w - Should make all and looks best equiped of the principles to handle the rain softened ground.
2.50 - Reverence and amadeus wolf ew - Cant separate these 2. With the rain Reverence automatically comes into play and i know how good the wolf is. Have won my fair share on both in past so an e/w on both and a rev f/c.
3.25 - Pride of Nation - Should have this race at his mercy under ideal conditions, price is a little on the skinny side though.
4.00 - Dabbers Ridge ew (if price allows) - Toss up between this one and somnus for me with preference for the Hills horse unless i hear something on somnus.
4.35 - Zarwala - Interesting runner, can handle the soft ground and trip, big step up from a maiden but oxx is no mug.
5.10 - Tough race - leaning towards salesin ew, but as with all cumani runners, i'll be keeping a beady eye on the market. Ask with by my other choice.

First 4 went to plan, winning or placed so small lose (indian ink (e/w at 7/2)) to large profit on the 2.50. Expected a better run from Dabbers Ridge (as did market) and this was the only one i was really dissapointed with. Zarwala also saw a lot of money from the market, unfortuantely i did see run so cant comment on it. Wasn't much support for Salesin so went for ask, beat by a nose dispite the best efforts of Ryan Moore. He and Phillip Robinson are the best flat jockeys riding at the moment IMO.

palace & proud

24-08-2006, 11:29 PM

Originally posted by palace & proud
10.13 Hove WESTMEAD ANNIE

:lux: :lux: :lux:

palace & proud

24-08-2006, 11:31 PM

Originally posted by palace & proud
Greyhound Tips for this Evening :

Hove

9.07 - Jazz Hurricane

9.34 - Lady Sky

9.41 - Shelbourne Poopa.

Walthamstow

9.01 - January Tiger

Belle Vue

7.55 - Roxholme Girl

All Winners :lux: :lux: :lux:

hakers

24-08-2006, 11:42 PM

Originally posted by palace & proud
All Winners :lux: :lux: :lux:

Nice - you back them? and what prices?

Micky Spilane

25-08-2006, 12:02 AM

Ok as I tipped one winner yesterday I think I'm on a roll.

Four for tomorrow:

Chester:
4:05 Blue Rocket
4:40 Heaven Knows

Newmarket:
2:10 Smirfys Diamond
3:20 Many Volumes

Micky Spilane

25-08-2006, 12:03 AM

Originally posted by palace & proud
All Winners :lux: :lux: :lux:

Nice one Deano, once I get the hang of this Horse Racing lark I might try following the dogs!

dodge_bond

25-08-2006, 12:07 AM

All three of Hove tips were winners
Ended up 84pence up . . .

This included a 3 course meal 6-7 pints a 7quid cab to brighton station, 2 cans on the way back and a pack of m&ms peanut! ! !

proper bo i tell thee . . . . Oh did i mention im drunk! ! ! !

palace & proud

25-08-2006, 12:13 AM

Originally posted by dodge_bond
All three of Hove tips were winners
Ended up 84pence up . . .

This included a 3 course meal 6-7 pints a 7quid cab to brighton station, 2 cans on the way back and a pack of m&ms peanut! ! !

proper bo i tell thee . . . . Oh did i mention im drunk! ! ! !

Were on this Beast 10.13 Hove WESTMEAD ANNIE :p

palace & proud

25-08-2006, 12:20 AM

Friday

Chester 4.40

Heaven Knows (NAP) of the Day :lux:

CHERRY TREE BRB

25-08-2006, 06:50 AM

Originally posted by palace & proud
Friday

Chester 4.40

Heaven Knows (NAP) of the Day :lux:

In total agreement with you there fella, also

720 Salisbury - Carlton Scroop

citizen sane

25-08-2006, 07:29 AM

The G/F wants me to take her horseracing at the weekend , so I'm thinking of going to Goodwood on sunday.

Never been to that track though , is it any good ? and can i just turn up on the day and get in ?

Also my knowledge of punting on the nags is practically zero and seeing as there are some bloody good tipsters on here , can i ask you to throw some tips my way as well please ?

Cheers lads :)

Ian Hart

25-08-2006, 07:44 AM

Originally posted by citizen sane
The G/F wants me to take her horseracing at the weekend , so I'm thinking of going to Goodwood on sunday.

Never been to that track though , is it any good ? and can i just turn up on the day and get in ?

Also my knowledge of punting on the nags is practically zero and seeing as there are some bloody good tipsters on here , can i ask you to throw some tips my way as well please ?

Cheers lads :)

You'll have a very nice day. It's definitely one of the loveliest courses in England - and I've visited most of them at some time. Full details here.

http://www.goodwood.co.uk/horseracing/

If you look at the number of tips on this thread, you'll find that in most cases by following them you'll do worse than picking them yourself! Obviously you're not going to bet a lot of money, so why not just choose a few yourself - that's half the fun :p

Enjoy your day!

Gooders

25-08-2006, 07:50 AM

Originally posted by citizen sane
The G/F wants me to take her horseracing at the weekend , so I'm thinking of going to Goodwood on sunday.

Never been to that track though , is it any good ? and can i just turn up on the day and get in ?

I went once as a lad, was about 2 furlongs from the winning line and couldn't see a bloody thing. (Did back Come On The Blues at 33/1 though).

I went a few years ago on a corporate thing and was perched on a balcony just above the winning post - it was fantastic. Especially as I had a touch on the machine that was Giants Causeway.

Shouldn't be too busy on Sunday and I'd recommend paying the extra to get into the members area - at least that way you'll be near the winning post.

As Ian says, it's a great course - one of the best.

citizen sane

25-08-2006, 08:06 AM

Cheers Ian and Gooders :)

I'll take your advice about the members area Gooders that sounds much better :p

I have zero expections about making any money so any winners will be a bonus .

foxy

25-08-2006, 08:39 AM

just my real fancies today

newmarket

2.45: Persian Fox (Nb)
3.20: Moudez or Saloon both e/w
4.30: Alessano

Sandown

2.00: Black Moma
3.10: Celtic Step e/w
4.20: Frosty Night - Gold Option. Rev F/c (its a joke)
4.55: Lake Shabla (Nap)

Gooders

25-08-2006, 08:43 AM

Originally posted by citizen sane
Cheers Ian and Gooders :)

I'll take your advice about the members area Gooders that sounds much better :p

I have zero expections about making any money so any winners will be a bonus .

If I remember I'll post a tip or two - that will help you eliminate one or two horses. ;)

Gooders

25-08-2006, 10:21 AM

Todays sporting fancies:

Newmarket:

Little Miss Wizzy 2.45
Alessano 4.30
Cashel Mead 5.00

Sandown:

Forest Dane 2.35
Benbrook 4.55

Fan of Westmead

25-08-2006, 10:38 AM

Tips for Today

Salisbury

7.50 Hanella (This horse has been improving in her last 2 races winning by short distances, it is stepping up in class and in distance but with carrying 9st should take all the beating.

Monmore

4.57 T5 Roxholme Ryan NAP (This dog should win this event, with the main danger being Westmead Joe who will be flying late but by that time Roxholme Ryan should be clear as it should make the running with his early pace and be sprinting clear. Price 3/1 GET ON!!!!)

Also maybe have a little on the forecast T5-T4

LLCOOLSTEVE

25-08-2006, 12:15 PM

Just the two today,

3.10 Regal Flush
3.20 Many Volumes

foxy

25-08-2006, 01:35 PM

didnt know chester was on so heres a few more

3.30: Orphen Prince
4.05: Pretty Majestic
4.40: Heaven Knows
5.10: Barbirolli

ozeagle

25-08-2006, 02:38 PM

Originally posted by LLCOOLSTEVE
Just the two today,

3.10 Regal Flush
3.20 Many Volumes

4/7 fav, 2nd
4/5 fav, gapped.

BH, LM, EO.

especially at those prices.

:rolleyes:

ozeagle

25-08-2006, 02:39 PM

LLCOOLSTEVE

25-08-2006, 02:57 PM

Bet horse, win money, end week well up

Ignore Oz and his 1.1 tennis losers :)

palace & proud

25-08-2006, 03:32 PM

I cant see nothing Pass Westmead Joe today the danger to it is the Trap 3 dog of Charlie Listers.

foxy

25-08-2006, 03:43 PM

2 non runners p&p zigzag and trap 1

foxy

25-08-2006, 03:45 PM

i am on flipin fire today last one going off at 5.10. so far 6 winners at great prices to.

LLCOOLSTEVE

25-08-2006, 03:46 PM

welsheagle

25-08-2006, 03:50 PM

Chester 4.40

Heaven Knows (NAP) of the Day

Good Tip

Just won 5/6.

Thanks

palace & proud

25-08-2006, 03:52 PM

Originally posted by palace & proud
Friday

Chester 4.40

Heaven Knows (NAP) of the Day :lux:

S.P 5/6 i was on at 11/8

:lux: :lux: :lux: :lux:

palace & proud

25-08-2006, 03:54 PM

Originally posted by welsheagle
Chester 4.40

Heaven Knows (NAP) of the Day

Good Tip

Just won 5/6.

Thanks

Was you on it fella? :D

foxy

25-08-2006, 04:02 PM

Fin Greyhound Trap SP Time/Sec. Time/Distance

1 Westmead Joe 4 6/4 0.00

bk d Larkhill Jo-Mega Delight Feb-2004 (Trainer: N Savva)
Comment:

2 Clash Harmonica 3 1/1F 0.00 ()

bk d Fortune Mike-Clash Minnie Aug-2004 (Trainer: C R Lister)
Comment:

3 Roxholme Ryan 5 11/4 0.00 ()

bd d Toll Security-Farantane Sinead Jul-2004 (Trainer: C Philpott)
Comment:

Going Allowance: N

well done westmead. i tipped this to win before the start. shame i didnt have a few quid on it

palace & proud

25-08-2006, 04:03 PM

Originally posted by palace & proud
I cant see nothing Pass Westmead Joe today the danger to it is the Trap 3 dog of Charlie Listers.

Get in there the Westmead :lux: :lux: :lux:

foxy

25-08-2006, 04:04 PM

BARBIROLLI here are guys i have been on form today so get your money and put it on this

foxy

25-08-2006, 04:43 PM

Originally posted by foxy
just my real fancies today

newmarket

2.45: Persian Fox (Nb) (7th 2-1)
3.20: Moudez or Saloon both e/w (moudez 1st 12-1 saloon 11th 7/1)
4.30: Alessano (1st 11-2)

Sandown

2.00: Black Moma (1st 7-2)
3.10: Celtic Step e/w (9th 14-1)
4.20: Frosty Night - Gold Option. Rev F/c (its a joke)
4.55: Lake Shabla (Nap) (2nd 15-8)

foxy

25-08-2006, 04:45 PM

1fe1

Originally posted by foxy
didnt know chester was on so heres a few more

3.30: Orphen Prince (1st 9-2)
4.05: Pretty Majestic (1st 13/8)
4.40: Heaven Knows (1st 5/6)
5.10: Barbirolli (5th 3-1)

also had golden digger in the first at newmarket won at 14-1

jamesyg0

26-08-2006, 07:37 AM

Newmarket 2:20 North Walk
Newmarket 2:50 Adronikos
Newmarket 3:20 Ebn Reem
Newmarket 5:00 Cesar Manrique

jamesyg0

26-08-2006, 09:08 AM

didnt think ebn reem would be as short as 6/5 :(

Al From Bromley

26-08-2006, 09:30 AM

Neil Callan's rides at Sandown I think today.

palace & proud

26-08-2006, 10:17 AM

3.10 Sandown

I have Dreamed -(Pricewise tip)

Billyd

26-08-2006, 10:35 AM

did u get my e-mail deano?

hakers

26-08-2006, 11:36 AM

Originally posted by palace & proud
3.10 Sandown

I have Dreamed -(Pricewise tip)

Pagan sword in that race :p

paulhgc2002

26-08-2006, 11:40 AM

Originally posted by palace & proud
3.10 Sandown

I have Dreamed -(Pricewise tip)

DEANO check out the toolbar i have added william hill radio and paddy power radio so you can keep a eye on your tips

http://cpfc.ourtoolbar.com/

hakers

26-08-2006, 11:41 AM

7.05 wind - master pegasus ew @ 7/1

ozeagle

26-08-2006, 02:58 PM

Originally posted by LLCOOLSTEVE
Bet horse, win money, end week well up

:rolleyes:

LLCOOLSTEVE

26-08-2006, 06:48 PM

Why the roll eyes? am I not allowed to end the week well up from betting on the horses Oz?? problem???

ozeagle

27-08-2006, 05:56 AM

keep putting them up here so i can follow them all.

Gooders

27-08-2006, 08:02 AM

Originally posted by Gooders
If I remember I'll post a tip or two - that will help you eliminate one or two horses. ;)

Here are my tips Citizen Sane. It's a tough card and I suggest you just pick your own fancies:

2.10 Brief Statement
2.45 Creative Mind
3.15 Pagan Crest
3.50 George Washington
4.20 Princess Taise
4.55 Guest Connections
5.30 Barbirolli

Have a great day anyay. :p

citizen sane

27-08-2006, 08:22 AM

Originally posted by Gooders
Here are my tips Citizen Sane. It's a tough card and I suggest you just pick your own fancies:

2.10 Brief Statement
2.45 Creative Mind
3.15 Pagan Crest
3.50 George Washington
4.20 Princess Taise
4.55 Guest Connections
5.30 Barbirolli

Have a great day anyay. :p

Thanks a lot :p

G/F's really looking forward to this .

I see both you an LL both tipped George Washington as well .

NO1FAN

27-08-2006, 08:32 AM

George Washington is the one today, i was going to tip it up on Goldmine but i can't be bothered with the reasoning.

Gooders

27-08-2006, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by Gooders
Here are my tips Citizen Sane. It's a tough card and I suggest you just pick your own fancies:

2.10 Brief Statement 1st 5/1
2.45 Creative Mind 2nd 4/1
3.15 Pagan Crest unplaced
3.50 George Washington unplaced
4.20 Princess Taise unplaced
4.55 Guest Connections 1st 9/2
5.30 Barbirolli unplaced

Have a great day anyay. :p

115pts to 70pts staked for me. I wonder how Citizen Sane got on?

Ian Hart

27-08-2006, 06:24 PM

Originally posted by NO1FAN
i was going to tip it up on Goldmine but i can't be bothered with the reasoning.

Not for the first time, thank Christ for that ;)

NO1FAN

27-08-2006, 10:10 PM

Yep :o

citizen sane

28-08-2006, 08:52 AM

Originally posted by Gooders
115pts to 70pts staked for me. I wonder how Citizen Sane got on?

Not as good as that , Started well because i backed Brief statement in the first :lux:

Also backed Creative Mind ,George Washington and Barbirolle ..My own picks came nowhere in the rest .

The G/F done alright though , she had Speedy Sam in the 3.15 and Seshem in the 4.20 :)

We had a score each on every race so it was only a fun thing really .

All in all an excellent day , cracking racecourse , easily the best one I've ever been too .

Glad we took your advice and went in the Richmond enclosure as well . That was really good .

Thanks again :)

Gooders

28-08-2006, 12:51 PM

Good stuff - can't beat going racing at a decent course, eh? :p

citizen sane

28-08-2006, 10:09 PM

Originally posted by Gooders
Good stuff - can't beat going racing at a decent course, eh? :p

No you can't ,I was really impressed with it and would definately go there again even though its a fair old drive from where i live .

Before that i had only gone to local course's like Towcester and Huntingdon .

LLCOOLSTEVE

28-08-2006, 10:11 PM

:D

Not much comparison

GW was dissapointing, but the way he missed the start he was never going to win.

Ian Hart

28-08-2006, 10:14 PM

Originally posted by citizen sane
No you can't ,I was really impressed with it and would definately go there again even though its a fair old drive from where i live .

Before that i had only gone to local course's like Towcester and Huntingdon .

Nothing wrong with Towcester ;)

citizen sane

28-08-2006, 10:16 PM

Originally posted by Ian Hart
Nothing wrong with Towcester ;)

I wasn't knocking it . Just a bit of a difference though :)

citizen sane

28-08-2006, 10:23 PM

Originally posted by LLCOOLSTEVE

GW was dissapointing

Just a bit :(

To make matters worse i was giving it the large one to the G/F beforehand about how this horse was well fancied , blah , blah , blah .

Then she picks a 50/1 shot ( Can't remember its name ) which came in 2nd :D

Ian Hart

28-08-2006, 10:36 PM

Originally posted by citizen sane
I wasn't knocking it . Just a bit of a difference though :)

One big difference is that entry is always free :)

How near do you live?

citizen sane

28-08-2006, 10:40 PM

Originally posted by Ian Hart
One big difference is that entry is always free :)

How near do you live?

It's about a 40 min drive from where i live .

Huntingdon is the closest one from me , thats about a half hour drive .

Do you go there much ?

Ian Hart

28-08-2006, 11:40 PM

It's only about 15 minutes from me, CS. I don't think there are any more meetings until October, but during the Winter & Spring they were having a meeting every week. As you may have noted by odd comments I make, although I review the form every day, I normally conclude not to have a bet, and my normal betting pattern is around 1-3 substantial bets a week. Betting therefore isn't something I do for "fun" (although I fully understand that others see it that way). My one exception to that is Towcester, where I'll go as a social outing with friends, perhaps half a dozen times a season, and have a small fun bet in most races whilst I'm there - normally without success!

In fact, one benefit of it being free entrance (and free parking) is that on two occasions I've popped in for a couple of races on a day I was driving past in the car, and happened to notice a meeting was on. If I wander into the bar, I can normally guarantee there'll be someone I know there, full of hard luck stories of their day so far! I'm convinced that horses at Towcester don't run to any sort of form, and the jockeys sit around beforehand drawing lots as to who shall win each race. :)

citizen sane

29-08-2006, 03:19 PM

Originally posted by Ian Hart
As you may have noted by odd comments I make, although I review the form every day, I normally conclude not to have a bet, and my normal betting pattern is around 1-3 substantial bets a week. Betting therefore isn't something I do for "fun" (although I fully understand that others see it that way). My

I can relate to this , my betting is split into two parts , the first being " fun " bets like yesterday at Goodwood where I'm only betting small sums and if they win its a bonus , If not , no big deal .

The other part is my serious betting , which nowadays involves a lot of trading on betfair . This i take very seriously because the amounts are a lot more , with a lot of time spent on research and working to a very strict criteria .

palace & proud

29-08-2006, 05:28 PM

Belle Vue this evening Live on Sky Sports includes the Gold Collar Final:

Belle Vue

7.20 -Droopys McAndrew

7.40 - Phone For Who

8.00 - Noirs Fiona

8.15 - Forest Rumble

8.50 - Unruly

9.10 - Droopys Aoife

9.25 - Rhincrew Stevie

9.45 - Westmead Aofia

Hove

10.00 - Open The Shop

Wimbledon

8.36 - Balamoray Ben

Walthamstow

8.53 - Milldean Cahill

10.05 - Special Deal

brb rule

29-08-2006, 05:29 PM

Any that you would put ur hol money on Deano?

palace & proud

29-08-2006, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by brb rule
Any that you would put ur hol money on Deano?

Its not the best of cards being shown on sky this evening.in the 9.45 race the Final.Im going against the odds on favourite Roxholme Girl.Ive gone for the mighty Westmead Dog in trap 6 but who knows he also has Trap 5 in that too. big call.

In the 9.10 race - Droopys Aoife ( Wimbledon )based dog should run a big race which he stays for ever.

foxy

29-08-2006, 05:51 PM

ive got 2 lucky 15's tonight my first is single dog selections as follows

b. park
7.06: trap 3
7.37: trap 2
Sheffield
6.56: trap 2
7.11 trap 4

and the other is a f/c one as follows

Hove
7.16: 6-3
7.47: 6-3
Shefiield
8.13 3-2
8.43: 4-2

palace & proud

29-08-2006, 05:54 PM

That Beast is the best bet of the night @ Hove this Evening.

Hove

10.00 - Open The Shop

P.S Foxy - Just like that Westmead Anne was when you tips your one up hehe ::)

foxy

29-08-2006, 06:18 PM

nah ballybrazil def win tonight. hehe

palace & proud

29-08-2006, 06:22 PM

Originally posted by foxy
nah ballybrazil def win tonight. hehe

I saw that in the Racing Pos but dont fancy it ..... You hope :o:p

hakers

29-08-2006, 06:36 PM

Originally posted by citizen sane
I can relate to this , my betting is split into two parts , the first being " fun " bets like yesterday at Goodwood where I'm only betting small sums and if they win its a bonus , If not , no big deal .

The other part is my serious betting , which nowadays involves a lot of trading on betfair . This i take very seriously because the amounts are a lot more , with a lot of time spent on research and working to a very strict criteria .

I can relate too. Most of my betting would be classed as 'fun' bets, however these ones come from my own selections, which although not a strict criteria, there is a criteria there. I'm lucky enough to make my substantial bets based upon information i receive which has made me a substantantial profit, especially over the last 3 weeks or so, where i have been in a position finally to take it a bit more seriously. This pays for the fun stuff amongst many other things.

foxy

29-08-2006, 06:40 PM

if anyone is intrested spain play lichenstein the weekend in a qualifier. they are 1-50 to win the match yet to me a massive 9-5 to win the first half surely that is worth a bet.

foxy

29-08-2006, 06:40 PM

sorry that is with corals

Finbar

29-08-2006, 07:04 PM

foxy I would question if you can actually get on at that price...

well have given it a go...and am on for £60, sure it will be declined as a palpable error but cheers for the heads up!!

hakers

29-08-2006, 07:47 PM

I would suggest that you will shortly be getting the bet voided and the money refunded. They withdrew the bet as i was placing mine :( Good spot though foxy, and thanks for posting it up.

palace & proud

29-08-2006, 07:47 PM

Anyone watching the Dogs on SKy Sports?

palace & proud

29-08-2006, 10:06 PM

Results from Belle Vue tonight :

Belle Vue

7.20 -Droopys McAndrew - 1st won by (4 1/4 lengths,Comment: EarlyPace @ 4/1

7.40 - Phone For Who - 3rd Comment: EPace, Crowded1 @ 9/4

8.00 - Noirs Fiona - 1st - Comment: EPace, Led1 won by (1 3/4) @ 3/1

8.15 - Forest Rumble - 2nd - Comment: EP, SnLd-4, Crd 1/4&3 beaten by a head @ 7/2

8.50 - Unruly - 1st - Comment: QAway, Led 1/2 won by
(1 1/2) @ 7/4

9.10 - Droopys Aoife - 1st Comment: Led7 won by (3) @ 2/1

9.25 - Rhincrew Stevie - 2nd - Comment: EP, Crd1, Led 1/2-NrLn beaten by a (HD) @ 3/1

9.45 - Westmead Aofia 2nd - Comment: SAw, FinishedStrong beaten by (3 3/4) @ 6/1

palace & proud

29-08-2006, 10:23 PM

Originally posted by palace & proud

In the 9.10 race - Droopys Aoife ( Wimbledon )based dog should run a big race which he stays for ever.

The Beast Pissed up tonight,I just didnt fancy the 1/2f :lux: :lux: :lux:

gooch1977

30-08-2006, 11:24 AM

Tip for you

30/8

Leicester 3.00pm

House Arrest to win.

Wolves 2.10pm

Worldly to win.

foxy

30-08-2006, 12:08 PM

Originally posted by gooch1977
Tip for you

30/8

Leicester 3.00pm

House Arrest to win.

Wolves 2.10pm

Worldly to win.

great prices hey :rolleyes:

Fan of Westmead

30-08-2006, 12:49 PM

Tips for today

Leicester

4.00 Shumookh Best price 4/6 NAP

Wolverhampton

3.40 Warsaw Pact Best price 10/11

4.10 Hunters' Glen Best Price 15/8

Ian Hart

30-08-2006, 03:41 PM

Originally posted by Fan of Westmead
Tips for today

Leicester

4.00 Shumookh Best price 4/6 NAP

Wolverhampton

3.40 Warsaw Pact Best price 10/11

4.10 Hunters' Glen Best Price 15/8

All three very short prices. All three lost. Up to your normal standard then ;)

Even your cousin Foxy normally manages to get one winner.

foxy

30-08-2006, 05:26 PM

oi are you trying to say i am a bad tipster.

Finbar

31-08-2006, 10:35 AM

yep, you were right about those odds Hakers, been amended to 1/10 so will not be risking my money on that one..

foxy

31-08-2006, 11:06 AM

Musselbrough Selections

2.30: Dancing Granny
3.00: Candyland
3.30: Alambic
4.00: Bold Minstrel
4.30: Bolton Hall
5.00: Swords

foxy

31-08-2006, 11:14 AM

Redcar Selections

2.10: Nufoudh
2.40: Durova
3.10: Kool Ovation
3.40: Colton
4.10: Alhaitham
4.40: Parchment (NB)
5.15: Sedge

foxy

31-08-2006, 11:22 AM

Salisbury Selections

2.20: Blessed Place
2.50: Yazamaan
3.20: Snow Ballerina
3.50: Stormy Monday (NAP)
4.20: Vital Statistics
4.50: Wunderwood
5.20: Border Edge

foxy

31-08-2006, 11:47 AM

onenightinlisbon racing tonight micky. 6.40 beverly

foxy

31-08-2006, 11:51 AM

if anyones interested in the 4.40 at redcar horses called rajam has been backed from 25/1 into 4/1 2nd fav

Joeymaz

31-08-2006, 12:08 PM

Originally posted by foxy
if anyones interested in the 4.40 at redcar horses called rajam has been backed from 25/1 into 4/1 2nd fav

Yep I got on that at 10/1.

also in the 3.40 Ryedale ovation was 14/1 and is now 9/2

foxy

31-08-2006, 12:12 PM

Originally posted by Joeymaz
Yep I got on that at 10/1.

also in the 3.40 Ryedale ovation was 14/1 and is now 9/2

well done on ryedale i would definately be having a bet on this knowing thaat now as easterby and allan often come up with surprises. especially as the fav is way too short in my opinion and is my lay of the day.

Micky Spilane

31-08-2006, 01:15 PM

Originally posted by foxy
onenightinlisbon racing tonight micky. 6.40 beverly

Cheers I noticed that yesterday, best price I can see is 11/4 with bet365, I may be biased but I think it has an excellent chance tonight, may well start favourite. Just Joey beat it by 6 lengths in the Hillary Needler but Onenightinlisbon has progressed far more than Just Joey and even has 1 pound pull even though its form of late is superior to Just Joey. Good luck if you back it.

foxy

31-08-2006, 01:27 PM

well im gonna side with just joey simply for the fact that n callan is riding it.

palace & proud

31-08-2006, 01:28 PM

Roll on the Jump Season - Black Jack Ketchem,Detroit City etc...:lux:

Micky Spilane

31-08-2006, 01:30 PM

Originally posted by foxy
well im gonna side with just joey simply for the fact that n callan is riding it.

Have to admit intresting jockey booking but I'll stick with Enstone's understanding with Lizzy.

foxy

31-08-2006, 01:48 PM

i wont be playing in that race apart from maybe a placepot but good luck.

palace & proud

01-09-2006, 04:02 PM

5.10 Sailsbury

Darling Deanie

10/1 9/1 8/1 7/1

Get on the beast :lux:

LLCOOLSTEVE

01-09-2006, 09:28 PM

Quito to win the Betfred sprint cup at Haydock, go on the old boy, I really think he can do it, going against my friend Reverance as the trip may well be against him, Quito will love the trip and the ground.

Ian Hart

01-09-2006, 10:03 PM

Originally posted by palace & proud
5.10 Sailsbury

Darling Deanie

10/1 9/1 8/1 7/1

Get on the beast :lux:

" 9 7 5 Darling Deanie (IRE) 11-8 Mr S Walker K A Ryan 4 11/2
started slowly, always behind opened 8/1 "

If she got in the starting stalls at Salisbury I'm not surprised she came last of 9. The race was at Haydock :)

Incidentally, d'you not think it would be an idea to use the man clapping his hands above his head only when a tip has won? ;)

Gooders

02-09-2006, 12:44 PM

Originally posted by LLCOOLSTEVE
Quito to win the Betfred sprint cup at Haydock, go on the old boy, I really think he can do it, going against my friend Reverance as the trip may well be against him, Quito will love the trip and the ground.

Doesn't look like the race will be on.

palace & proud

02-09-2006, 01:25 PM

David Pipe send just the 1 horse to Stratford 4.05 race this afternoon Alikat
5/1 at the mo.

LLCOOLSTEVE

02-09-2006, 01:28 PM

palace & proud

05-09-2006, 01:09 AM

Everyone stopped betting :eek:

palace & proud

05-09-2006, 06:47 AM

Sheffield - tonght:

Westemead Joe

jamesyg0

06-09-2006, 03:27 PM

Had 4 winners today out 5. Near enough Quadrupled my money so im happy

Micky Spilane

06-09-2006, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by jamesyg0
Had 4 winners today out 5. Near enough Quadrupled my money so im happy

Well done, nice to here of a win, shame you didn't share them with us! :D

Micky Spilane

07-09-2006, 01:17 PM

Southwell 4:20 e.w. Blades Girl should be 6/1 or thereabouts.

Micky Spilane

07-09-2006, 03:32 PM

Originally posted by Micky Spilane
Southwell 4:20 e.w. Blades Girl should be 6/1 or thereabouts.

Won easy 9/2, early price was 13/2! Hope some of you were on it.

Mackenuff

07-09-2006, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by Micky Spilane
Won easy 9/2, early price was 13/2! Hope some of you were on it.

Nice one Mickey.

I don't have a clue when it comes to horses but occasionally read this thread when I feel like a little flutter. I don't normally bet more than a couple of quid and felt like a bet today.

Got on this one at 11/2. Only bet £2 each way but a nice little return of £17 has made my day. Thanks Mickey....top tip.

Wish I could return the favour but I'd normally bet on the horse with the best name, or the favourite so I'm not much use.

Ian Hart

07-09-2006, 04:08 PM

Originally posted by Mackenuff
Only bet £2 each way but a nice little return of £17 has made my day.

Better to put £2 ew on a winner than £200 ew on a loser.

Well done. And well done Micky too :p

Micky Spilane

07-09-2006, 04:34 PM

Originally posted by Mackenuff
Nice one Mickey.

I don't have a clue when it comes to horses but occasionally read this thread when I feel like a little flutter. I don't normally bet more than a couple of quid and felt like a bet today.

Got on this one at 11/2. Only bet £2 each way but a nice little return of £17 has made my day. Thanks Mickey....top tip.

Wish I could return the favour but I'd normally bet on the horse with the best name, or the favourite so I'm not much use.

Nice one, glad someone else was on it, I always get a buzz when my tips come in and someone else profits from them. I'll try to keep up the good work.

jamesyg0

07-09-2006, 06:03 PM

Originally posted by Micky Spilane
Well done, nice to here of a win, shame you didn't share them with us! :D

Yeh i was at the bookies rather than online so didnt get a chance. Why is there no racing tonight fancied a bit of a bet

foxy

08-09-2006, 09:44 PM

any tips for the weekend people. thooghts on ouija board in ireland. any inside info hakers. i want winners people. winners.

macstar

09-09-2006, 08:30 AM

Originally posted by foxy
any tips for the weekend people. thooghts on ouija board in ireland. any inside info hakers. i want winners people. winners.

good chance, but no Dettori which is a shame, but will be tight with Dylan Thomas and Alexandra Goldrun there.

Lets have some fun today!!!!!

TIPS:

Flashy Wings 7/2 - 14.40 Leopardstown
Iffrajj 10/11fav - 15.10 York
Jadalee 8/1 - 15.45 York
Ouija Board 2/1fav - 15.55 Leopardstown
Nayyir 7/1 - 16.25 York
Tax Free 7/4fav - 16.30 Goodwood
Easy Lover 12/1 E/W - 17.00 York
Zero Tolerence 5/1 - 17.30 York

Good Luck!!!:p

jamesyg0

09-09-2006, 09:26 AM

That chump Jamie Spencer doesn't ride Zero Tolerence so thats good

macstar

09-09-2006, 10:25 AM

Originally posted by jamesyg0
That chump Jamie Spencer doesn't ride Zero Tolerence so thats good

definately.

jamesyg0

09-09-2006, 04:02 PM

Instead he rides Ouiji Board and went to early the guy is a joke of a jockey. Lost me a bit of money and not for the first time.

Had 2/4 today

Winners Echo of light @ 5/2 and Sixties Icon at 5/4
Losers Ouiji Board and Sadoor

LLCOOLSTEVE

09-09-2006, 04:15 PM

Originally posted by jamesyg0
Instead he rides Ouiji Board and went to early the guy is a joke of a jockey. Lost me a bit of money and not for the first time.

no he didnt go to early, you know jack shit about racing.

jamesyg0

09-09-2006, 04:17 PM

Err yes he did. Went past it only to get beat again? He's a poor jockey

LLCOOLSTEVE

09-09-2006, 04:35 PM

Originally posted by jamesyg0
Err yes he did. Went past it only to get beat again? He's a poor jockey

No he didnt :rolleyes:

The horse carried him there, he was going so easy he had no choice, he couldnt pull it up. Fallon was on Dylan Thomas, he always always gets so much out of horse that of course it got back up. Spencer did nothing wrong on Ouija.

macstar

09-09-2006, 08:10 PM

Originally posted by LLCOOLSTEVE
No he didnt :rolleyes:

The horse carried him there, he was going so easy he had no choice, he couldnt pull it up. Fallon was on Dylan Thomas, he always always gets so much out of horse that of course it got back up. Spencer did nothing wrong on Ouija.

was always gonna be hard for Ouija Board, and only just got beat, by a neck. Maybe, just Maybe with Dettori on board she wouldve won.

only 2 winners today were Iffraaj and Tax Free.

Zero Tolerance was a non-runner.

Micky Spilane

10-09-2006, 11:40 AM

Like the look of Spinning Crystal 2:20 Kempton.

foxy

10-09-2006, 11:48 AM

sorry mickey la marmotte in the 2.20 is my nap had a word for it also so good luck everybody.

LLCOOLSTEVE

14-09-2006, 12:28 PM

Backed 1 horse yesterday and that was Mountain Pass e/w in the last at Yarmouth, won at 9/1, saw it run at Lingfield a few weeks back and it closed in off a strong pace to finish a never nearer 4th, thought he looked quite promising, and after backing it e/w at 16's that day he won a seller at Brighton before yesterday, couldnt believe the rpice i got yesterday though.

Backed 1 horse today too, the Godolphin runner in the 3.45 (i think off top of my head) at Ayr.

CHERRY TREE BRB

15-09-2006, 11:39 AM

Teo Perugo for the Kerry National, Listowel, weds 20th sept

Micky Spilane

15-09-2006, 12:12 PM

Today's fancy: Ayr 3:20 Utmost Respect

GreatGonzo

15-09-2006, 12:20 PM

Originally posted by Micky Spilane
Today's fancy: Ayr 3:20 Utmost Respect

I have backed that one too.

macstar

15-09-2006, 12:30 PM

money going on one of my favs, Wyatt Earp at Ayr. 7/1 2f

Gooders

15-09-2006, 12:39 PM

Originally posted by GreatGonzo
I have backed that one too.

Me three. Put it in my yankee.

hakers

15-09-2006, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by Gooders
Me three. Put it in my yankee.

Me four ;)

Micky Spilane

15-09-2006, 01:15 PM

Originally posted by Gooders
Me three. Put it in my yankee.

Hate to worry you but:

http://forums.cpfc.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=139943 :D

LLCOOLSTEVE

15-09-2006, 02:04 PM

Er me five....

LLCOOLSTEVE

15-09-2006, 02:23 PM

Well played everyone :) :lux:

Joeymaz

15-09-2006, 02:24 PM

cheers guys:lux: :lux:

Micky Spilane

15-09-2006, 02:25 PM

Nice one, BBS canes the bookies!! :lux: :lux: :lux:

hakers

15-09-2006, 02:29 PM

2085

Ladbrokes has taken one hell of a caining from me this week :lux:

betoddandeven will now only let me bet £7 a race :( Dont win too often with them MS

Gooders

15-09-2006, 08:24 PM

Had Blue Monday and Bauer with it, so I'm happy. :)

Joeymaz

18-09-2006, 08:03 AM

Had money on Bauer to.

A horse called Bauer, ridden by Dettori......guaranteed winner

Gooders

18-09-2006, 12:17 PM

Interesting that Ryan Moore has gone to Kempton today. I could see him having 2 or 3 winners, at least.

Gooders

21-09-2006, 06:43 AM

Guy in the bookies that bets on footie a lot told me last night he was doing a multi involving wins for Notts County, Wycombe and Chesterfield.

I told him he was asking too much.

Gooders

21-09-2006, 09:06 AM

Poor bugger. The bookie has just told me he won £440 for a double on Wycombe and Chesterfield. He obviously left Notts County out - would have been over three grand if he hadn't!

Ian Hart

21-09-2006, 09:51 AM

Originally posted by Gooders
Poor bugger. The bookie has just told me he won £440 for a double on Wycombe and Chesterfield. He obviously left Notts County out - would have been over three grand if he hadn't!

He only won £440? My heart bleeds for him ;)

Gooders

21-09-2006, 10:45 AM

Yeah but if he's like me he'll feel like he lost due to excluding Notts County. :)

palace & proud

21-09-2006, 07:04 PM

MICK FITZGERALD is to retire from race riding at the John Smith’s Grand National meeting in April - and is vowing to “go out on a high”.

Nicky Henderson's long-serving stable jockey is to take a job as director of racing for a soon-to-be launched exclusive racing club,whose membership will include past and present England cricket captains Michael Vaughan and Andrew Flintoff, and Ryder Cup golfers Darren Clarke and Lee Westwood.

Fitzgerald, 36, stressed on Tuesday there will be no easing down in his final season, which he was determined to make "my best ever".

Few of jumping's major prizes have escape the popular and articulate jockey, and his wins include the Grand National on Rough Quest, Cheltenham Gold Cup and King George VI Chase on See More Business, and a Queen Mother Champion Chase on Call Equiname.

By the time he quits next spring, Fitzgerald’s career will have spanned 19 years, all but four of them as retained jockey to Henderson at Seven Barrows in Lambourn.

On Tuesday, he pinpointed last season's Hennessy Cognac Gold Cup success on the Henderson-trained Trabolgan as one of the most memorable landmarks, and definitely the most emotional.

The supremely executed win on the top weight, the first in the Hennessy for the trainer on his local course, came less than a week after Fitzgerald had returned to raceriding after breaking his neck in a fall at Market Rasen four months earlier.

"If it hadn't been for Nicky, I wouldn't have come back after that injury," he said." We've had a wonderful partnership. I've nothing but respect and admiration for him, both as a trainer and a person. He has been fantastic to work with."

The weekend after the Hennessy, Fitzgerald landed another prestige chase when the Paul Nicholls-trained Kauto Star won the Tingle Creek at Sandown.

It will be business as usual until Aintree is over next spring.

He said on Tuesday: "I've always given 100 per cent to everything I do and this season will be no exception.

“I want to make it my best season because I want togo out on a high. The Grand National will be a tough day for me emotionally, that's for sure.” He added: "I will be the first to admit that I've had a fantastic run, riding over 1,200 winners with so many big races along the way. All those owners, trainer and horses - fortunately for me far too many to mention - who have made my career so exciting and memorable will always be part of my life.

“I cannot thank them all enough for their wonderful support. It has been an amazing journey that Iwouldn't swap for anything.

"When I hang up my boots I will become director of racing for Club ISM. I have always put a premium on quality, and nothing gives me more pleasure than to be associated with top-class horses, so when I was offered the post with Club ISM I jumped at the chance.

“The club's aim is to have a number of quality horses, both Flat and National Hunt, in training with an impressive list of trainers."

Those trainers will include Henderson, who on Tuesday gave a glowing tribute to Fitzgerald.

"Mick is the perfect stable jockey in every respect,” Henderson said. “He has such a good brain, and is and outstanding communicator and team player. Apart from the fact he's a top-class jockey, he has been so totally loyal."

Henderson added: "We've had so many great days together, but last year's Hennessy was very special.

“To be frank, the week before the race I didn't think that Mick would ride Trabolgan. I knew he wouldn't take the ride unless he felt he was 100 per cent right.I trusted him completely, whereas some jockeys would say, ‘yes, I'm all right’, when they're not.

"I know Mick is eagerly looking forward to this season, and there'll be no easing down. Put it this way, he's at the tea interval and we're anxious to get another century on the board before

Gooders

22-09-2006, 08:17 AM

Todays fancies:

Al Qasi 2.00 Ascot
Scottish Stage 2.35 Ascot
Pretty Majestic 3.10 Ascot
Bateleur 3.20 Haydock

Micky Spilane

22-09-2006, 11:23 AM

Todays' fancy: Haydock 5:05 O'Tara e.w.

CHERRY TREE BRB

22-09-2006, 11:32 AM

235 Ascot - Arryamm ( nap )

CHERRY TREE BRB

22-09-2006, 11:34 AM

There was a lot to like about Bother Na winning the Kerry National, definitly one for the notebooks..Grand National 25-1/midlands Grand National.

CHERRY TREE BRB

22-09-2006, 11:59 AM

The meeting at Market Rasen tomorrow is the clearest indictaion yet that the Jumping season is about to get into full swing :lux: :lux:

315 Market Rasen, Saturday - Quazar

Dont go mad on it, but was a close run third in a much better race last time out, normally wins around this time of year, and could be "thrown-in" with a very light weight

palace & proud

22-09-2006, 04:34 PM

Back to the dogs again..Grand Prix Competition at Walthamstow..

The Mighty Westmead Olivia.. Get on it now..:)

Westmead Olivia was just five spots outside Star Of Dromin's 39.24sec track record when romping heat five of the VC Grand Prix at Walthamstow Tuesday night. Hampered at the first, she drew clear out of the second for an eight lengths win in 39.29sec. Next fastest was Daisyfield Seani (39.58sec.

Gooders

23-09-2006, 08:30 AM

I'm off down the road now to perm these fancies:

For win purposes:

Quizzene 2.25 Haydock
Knot in Wood 2.55 Haydock
Cape Royal 3.30 Haydock
Stotsfold 3.55 Chester
Fair Along 5.25 Ascot

For e/w purposes:

Envision 2.00 Ascot
Ellens Academy 2.55 Haydock
Mine 3.45 Ascot

LLCOOLSTEVE

23-09-2006, 06:59 PM

George Washington is awesome, never off the bridle and crushes a strong field.

palace & proud

25-09-2006, 03:55 PM

Anti Post dog Tips for you people:

2006 Greyhound Grand National @ Wimbledon

Thats The Bullet @ 7/2

2006 Grand Prix @ Walthamstow

Westmead Olivia 7/1

2006 Reading Masters

Geordie Parker 13/8

Gooders

26-09-2006, 11:59 AM

Hmmm, todays flat racing has a real end-of season look to it.

I'm going for a bit of value:

Polish Index 2.45 Nottingham
Quintrell 4.50 Goodwood
Woodcote Place 5.25 Goodwood
Benandonner 6.05 Nottingham

Al From Bromley

26-09-2006, 12:05 PM

I am sttangely drawn to Miss J Camacho's runner in the 4.50 at Goodwood. Eaves only ride. He did me a favour on Saturday when his only ride bolted in at 12/1 (Sierra Vista)

Al From Bromley

26-09-2006, 12:05 PM

Also, Paul Doe's ride in the last at Goodwood for Akehurst. C & D winner and his second of two rides for the stable this afternoon.

LLCOOLSTEVE

26-09-2006, 12:20 PM

Following Ryan Moore this afternoon

Gooders

26-09-2006, 07:51 PM

Originally posted by Gooders
Hmmm, todays flat racing has a real end-of season look to it.

I'm going for a bit of value:

Polish Index 2.45 Nottingham
Quintrell 4.50 Goodwood
Woodcote Place 5.25 Goodwood
Benandonner 6.05 Nottingham

After the first one blew me out, I did the other three in a £5 win patent. Quintrell only 3rd but the other two won at 7/1 and 13/2. I'd already done them all in a yankee.

£400+. :D :lux:

I hope you did that first time out winner for Ryan Moore that started at 28/1 Steve.

LLCOOLSTEVE

26-09-2006, 10:02 PM

No, I had his 2nd and two 3rd's though...... just my luck at the mo.

Well done.

Ian Hart

26-09-2006, 10:23 PM

Originally posted by LLCOOLSTEVE
No, I had his 2nd and two 3rd's though......

I assume one of those was Rainbow's Edge, Steve? I couldn't understand the price on it, so decided it was an appropriate horse to lay. I'm still confused as to why it would be so well backed. It hadn't run since May, and it's only two runs were on much shorter distances than the race today, so 5/4 seemed bizarre to me. But then again, people must have had good reasons to ignore those factors and back it so low - I'd be interested to know what the attraction was at that price.

Oh, and well done Gooders :p

Ian Hart

26-09-2006, 10:24 PM

Also, does anyone know any more background to this story regarding the first race at Nottingham?

"Daragh O'Donohoe was suspended for 28 days by the stewards at Nottingham following his riding of Krikket in the opening European Breeders Fund Trent Bridge Maiden Fillies' Stakes.

The William Haggas-trained two-year-old was sent off at 40-1 and finished seventh, beaten around five and three-quarter lengths.

Haggas was fined £5,000 and the horse, who had finished no better than ninth on her two previous runs, was banned for 40 days.

The Newmarket handler was handed a further £275 on top of that after the stewards ruled he had failed to aquatint his representative with the instructions given to O'Donohoe."

The horse had only run twice, and had both times been unplaced - indeed last of 10 last time. It started at 40/1 today which seemed about right. I'd be intrigued to know what lead them to give a 28 day ban when the horse finished no worse than it's form suggested it should. If they're suggesting he was pulling it, it might be one to watch out for next time if there's a deal of money going on it.

GreatGonzo

26-09-2006, 10:28 PM

Just started backing my fancy in teh Arc, Deep Impact to upset the Europeans! :p

LLCOOLSTEVE

26-09-2006, 11:11 PM

Diggers digs in?

26-09-2006, 11:20 PM

Anyone got any tips for the cesarowitch?

Ian Hart

26-09-2006, 11:21 PM

I guess it probably benefited greatly for the run. As I mentioned, there'd been a long gap since its last one.

hakers

27-09-2006, 12:04 AM

Originally posted by Ian Hart
I assume one of those was Rainbow's Edge, Steve? I couldn't understand the price on it, so decided it was an appropriate horse to lay. I'm still confused as to why it would be so well backed. It hadn't run since May, and it's only two runs were on much shorter distances than the race today, so 5/4 seemed bizarre to me. But then again, people must have had good reasons to ignore those factors and back it so low - I'd be interested to know what the attraction was at that price.

Oh, and well done Gooders :p

Was a very strong word flying about for this one, meant to be quite special and potentially a 'staying star' (heard this from two diff sources). Didn't see the race but it may not have been run to suit, or it just didn't show on course what it shows at home. But you are right, was a very short price. I only (thankfully!) had a little bit on at 13/8 as had two other big bets today, one of which came in :) and one didn't :()

And well done Gooders

Gooders

27-09-2006, 06:32 AM

Originally posted by Ian Hart
I assume one of those was Rainbow's Edge, Steve? I couldn't understand the price on it, so decided it was an appropriate horse to lay. I'm still confused as to why it would be so well backed. It hadn't run since May, and it's only two runs were on much shorter distances than the race today, so 5/4 seemed bizarre to me. But then again, people must have had good reasons to ignore those factors and back it so low - I'd be interested to know what the attraction was at that price.

Oh, and well done Gooders :p

Cheers Ian. I originally was going to include Rainbows Edge in my yankee but I decided that the step up in trip was too much of an unknown. I'm learning. :)

Gooders

27-09-2006, 06:34 AM

Originally posted by Ian Hart
Also, does anyone know any more background to this story regarding the first race at Nottingham?

"Daragh O'Donohoe was suspended for 28 days by the stewards at Nottingham following his riding of Krikket in the opening European Breeders Fund Trent Bridge Maiden Fillies' Stakes.

The William Haggas-trained two-year-old was sent off at 40-1 and finished seventh, beaten around five and three-quarter lengths.

Haggas was fined £5,000 and the horse, who had finished no better than ninth on her two previous runs, was banned for 40 days.

The Newmarket handler was handed a further £275 on top of that after the stewards ruled he had failed to aquatint his representative with the instructions given to O'Donohoe."

The horse had only run twice, and had both times been unplaced - indeed last of 10 last time. It started at 40/1 today which seemed about right. I'd be intrigued to know what lead them to give a 28 day ban when the horse finished no worse than it's form suggested it should. If they're suggesting he was pulling it, it might be one to watch out for next time if there's a deal of money going on it.

Definitely sounds like the "non-triers" rule to me. Still, O'Donohoe stole the last race for me on Banandonner, so I'll let him off. :p

Ian Hart

27-09-2006, 09:13 AM

Originally posted by hakers
Was a very strong word flying about for this one, meant to be quite special and potentially a 'staying star' (heard this from two diff sources). Didn't see the race but it may not have been run to suit, or it just didn't show on course what it shows at home. But you are right, was a very short price.

I think the price was what bothered me, and which made me think this was a good value lay. As Steve said, you could certainly list persuasive reasons for its chances, and had it started at, say, 4/1 would have been a decent risk. But it was a horse who had not run at all as a two year old, and then after just two runs this season had not been seen since May. That suggested to me there had been fitness problems, otherwise they would have been running it. Even if now fully fit, it was surely going to need the race, especially over a much longer trip than it had experienced. All the "strong words" in the world weren't going to make it anything other than very poor value at those odds, with all the uncertainties.

But, clearly one to watch in the future.

Ian Hart

27-09-2006, 09:18 AM

Originally posted by Gooders
Definitely sounds like the "non-triers" rule to me.

I'm sure you're right, Gooders. I reckon they believed the connections could have been setting it up for a "sting" next time. By giving the actual horse a 40 day ban, they are effectively preventing them running her again this season, and ruining any plan that might have been hatched.

Gooders

27-09-2006, 09:52 AM

And so they should. It's difficult enough picking winners, never mind trying to work out which ones are running on their merits.

That horse I mentioned a few pages back (Bachelor Party) won at the 3rd time of asking the other day at 15/8f. Form not all that impressive though so I don't think I'll follow it.

Really crappy racing again today and I'll probably go for another mostly long odds perm from these:

Glorious Prince 2.10 Newcastle (been watching this one since the trainer pulled it out with a vets certificate one day and then ran it the next day - it finished 2nd at a big price)
Border Artist 3.40 Newcastle (will always give you a run for your money)
Whinhill House 5.10 Newcastle (finally showed some signs of form last time - lead most of the way before the saddle slipped, and now dropped back to 5 furlongs - danger might be The Leather Wedge)
Dubai Builder 4.30 and Greek Renaissance 5.00 at Salisbury both have good chances, but that'll be reflected in their prices.

Al From Bromley

27-09-2006, 09:53 AM

Fancy Dean McKeown at newcastle today :)

hakers

27-09-2006, 10:15 AM

Originally posted by Ian Hart
I think the price was what bothered me, and which made me think this was a good value lay. As Steve said, you could certainly list persuasive reasons for its chances, and had it started at, say, 4/1 would have been a decent risk. But it was a horse who had not run at all as a two year old, and then after just two runs this season had not been seen since May. That suggested to me there had been fitness problems, otherwise they would have been running it. Even if now fully fit, it was surely going to need the race, especially over a much longer trip than it had experienced. All the "strong words" in the world weren't going to make it anything other than very poor value at those odds, with all the uncertainties.

But, clearly one to watch in the future.

Kind of true what you say about value, at 5/4 it wasn't what you would call good value before the off, but it would have been had it won by 5 lengths though. It not being seen as a two year old means nothing really and not being seen since may can mean so many things. (Hala Bek imediately springs to mind - unraced as 2 year old, won first time out at what could have been classed as poor value odds (word was out on this too - hence price) and then had a 'break' before he should have won the derby but for that poxt jink at teh end :().

Surprised you seem so dismissive of the 'strong words'. Recently i've been given horses which on face value seemed 'poor value' but the manner in which they have then run and then won actually made them 'good value' as they won in a manner that their price should have been a lot shorter - and many were horses that i would have gone against had i not heard. (one yesterday - first time out over fences vs a well backed and fancied runner).

Would be interesting to see that race - one for the future it may be but if it was a crawl then a 3 furlong sprint that would suggest it would need a stronger pace and maybe either a biiger field or a change of tactics.

hakers

27-09-2006, 11:06 AM

Cracking e/w bet today, sant elena 5.00 salis, 10/1 with VC. Against greek renaissance who dotted up last week but sant beat greek (albeit on AWT) a couple of runs ago and they meet today with sant 1lb better off then that run. Greek is also at a disadvantage by having that useless •••• on board so is worth taking on.

Ian Hart

27-09-2006, 12:19 PM

Originally posted by hakers

Surprised you seem so dismissive of the 'strong words'.

I'm certainly not dismissive of information/tips etc hakers, especially from anyone who has been reliable in the past. But the world of horse racing is full of third hand information being passed on, and some of it takes a life of its own. However strong a tip, I'd always check the form as well to see if the tip makes sense.

Gooders

27-09-2006, 01:03 PM

Originally posted by hakers

Would be interesting to see that race - one for the future it may be but if it was a crawl then a 3 furlong sprint that would suggest it would need a stronger pace and maybe either a biiger field or a change of tactics.

Time wasn't fast and Juniper Girl (who is no great shakes) won eased down, so I wouldn't think the form amounts to much.

LLCOOLSTEVE

27-09-2006, 01:04 PM

Palace Race day at Lingfield today, I was due to go but had to pull out.

hakers

27-09-2006, 01:04 PM

Originally posted by Ian Hart
I'm certainly not dismissive of information/tips etc hakers, especially from anyone who has been reliable in the past. But the world of horse racing is full of third hand information being passed on, and some of it takes a life of its own. However strong a tip, I'd always check the form as well to see if the tip makes sense.

Fair point, guess cos i know my sources and that they are stable people it makes a difference. If i checked the form on some of them though my gambling profits would be a hell of a lot lower (One max bet had been beaten an average of 40 lengths in its 3 previous races :eek: )

Al From Bromley

27-09-2006, 05:27 PM

Following McKeown wasn't bad but got the wrong McK really. McKevoy had a treble.

Gooders

27-09-2006, 06:06 PM

McKevoy is a great jockey - like him a lot.

Should have done mine each-way. Well, Border Artist anyway - 14/1 was a ridiculous price.

palace & proud

27-09-2006, 08:06 PM

Champion jump jockey Tony McCoy returns to the saddle at Hereford on Thursday after spending eight weeks recovering form a badly broken right wrist.
The Northern Ireland man's comeback ride will be on Absolutelythebest in the opening World Bet Exchange wbx.com Novices' Hurdle.

McCoy will also in action on Jonjo O'Neill's Bouncy Castle in a maiden Open National Hunt flat race.

The rider sustained his injury during the Galway Festival on 2 August.

He has been riding out for several days in preparation for his return.

McCoy's lead in the jockeys' title race has been whittled away with Tom O'Brien level with him on the 49 mark. Richard Johnson is just two behind in third.

Gooders

28-09-2006, 09:35 AM

Any fancies today chaps, or shall I stick a pin in?

Gooders

28-09-2006, 10:19 AM

OK, a pin it is then. I'll perm these:

Carcinetto 2.35 Ayr
Killena Boy 2.55 Newmarket
Philharmonic 4.40 Newmarket
Briery Lane 4.55 Ayr

Gooders

28-09-2006, 12:33 PM

Changed my mind - always fatal.

I swapped Angus Newz for Philharmonic and stuck the four of them in an each-way yankee.

I'd suggest everyone lays them all now. :)

Al From Bromley

28-09-2006, 05:49 PM

Had the last two winner at Ayr so I am happy :). Ffrench and Sanders, no comedy act.

Ian Hart

28-09-2006, 05:54 PM

Originally posted by Gooders
Changed my mind - always fatal.

I swapped Angus Newz for Philharmonic and stuck the four of them in an each-way yankee.

I'd suggest everyone lays them all now. :)

I do wish I'd taken your advice.

About layling them all, that is ;)

LLCOOLSTEVE

28-09-2006, 06:06 PM

Had a nice double on Cape and Asperity ( I think thats how you spell it)

foxy

29-09-2006, 10:53 AM

havent posted here for a while.

anyway just a few main fancies

hexam:
3.20: Tee-Jay
3.55: Makeabreak (definately get on if there is support)
5.05: Apadi
5.35: Jump to it (good e/w shot)

lingfield

1.50: All you need (nap)
2.20: Fadeyev
3.30: Samdaniya
5.15: Particle

newmarket

1.30: Thousand Words
2.35: Caldra
3.45: Khyber kim
4.20: Al tharib
5.30: Mosharref

foxy

29-09-2006, 11:13 AM

some e/w shots for the live races

1.30: Danebury Hill: very well bred. frankie on board meehan who has not been on fire lately but does get frankie on his better horses and is good value at around 10-1

2.00: Vital Statistics: this horse is another that is well bred out of indian ridge. elsworth and egan have been a good pairing this season albeit a bit dodgy sometimes but this is one race that i think could be theres, and around 9-1 is is great value

2.35: La Neige: now this is a massive race and there will probably alot of hard luck stories. however looking at the form of these there are not many who have been running at this class lately. now this horse has been running in a few class 1 lately and being doing itself justice so i will side with this at around a price of 16-1

3.10: Conquest: this race is a small field but this horse out of machiavellian should love the ground. the fav has a great chance but i think it could come down to these 2 and having run on the course before i reckon conquest could just pull out more.

LLCOOLSTEVE

29-09-2006, 12:53 PM

Just one for me, Magic America in the Chevely Park at 2pm

ozeagle

29-09-2006, 01:09 PM

will follow this one.

palace & proud

29-09-2006, 06:10 PM

Wimbledon & Romford Dog tips (Friday Night)

8.45 - Jill Fault

9.00 - Ballyeacle

9.15 -Thats The Bullet (N.B)

Romford

7.45 - Treacle Rose

8.48 - Stradeen Ouzo (NAP)

saul1664

29-09-2006, 09:58 PM

Originally posted by LLCOOLSTEVE
Just one for me, Magic America in the Chevely Park at 2pm

backed dutch art, different class to these, reckons its the best horse since roger di triano (sp?)

palace & proud

29-09-2006, 10:37 PM

http://www.racingpost.co.uk/images/graphics/dutch_art_spl.jpg

Ian Hart

29-09-2006, 10:43 PM

Originally posted by saul1664
backed dutch art, different class to these, reckons its the best horse since roger di triano (sp?)

Dutch Art was in the Middle Park - not the same race as Steve was referring to (the Chevley Park).

I have a friend who told me he was going to lay a substantial sum against Dutch Art. I warned him against it as I thought it was potentially a real class act, although I didn't actually back it myself. My friend did still lay against it but fortunately reduced the amount he'd intended to bet after my warning.

Al From Bromley

30-09-2006, 08:31 AM

The Cambridgeshire today. Always a lottery. I once had the 50/1 winner of it (Braughing, ridden by cauthen trained by Clive Brittain) back in the early 80's. Today I fancy Hinterland and Seb Sanders ride, Spectait, oh and for a big outsider - Tanzanite each way.

Finbar

30-09-2006, 11:12 AM

Have also done Hinterland (25/1) as well as Royal Alchemist (74/1) in the Cambridgeshire

Nap of the day is Stormy River in the 2.20 at Longchamps (currently 4.4 on betfair)

Gooders

30-09-2006, 01:24 PM

Envision 2.40 Kempton
Hoh Mike 2.50 Redcar
Elkhorn 4.35 Redcar
She's My Outsider 5.00 Kempton

Can't be doing with the punters graveyard today.

LLCOOLSTEVE

30-09-2006, 03:09 PM

You keep backing Hoh Mike, it owes punters, I dont think its that genuine though.

Gooders

30-09-2006, 03:34 PM

First time I've backed him today.

Will also be the last.

LLCOOLSTEVE

30-09-2006, 03:37 PM

Thought you backed him at Ascot when Spencer was on board and he got beaten by Dutch Art?? I remember you complaining that Spencer left it too late....

:confused:

Gooders

30-09-2006, 03:44 PM

Oh yeah, well remembered - definitely won't be backing him again!

LLCOOLSTEVE

30-09-2006, 03:49 PM

Saturdays are getting shocking for surprising results on the nags

Anyways Skhilling Spirit in the 4.55 Newmarket....

saul1664

02-10-2006, 09:32 AM

Originally posted by Ian Hart
Dutch Art was in the Middle Park - not the same race as Steve was referring to (the Chevley Park).

I have a friend who told me he was going to lay a substantial sum against Dutch Art. I warned him against it as I thought it was potentially a real class act, although I didn't actually back it myself. My friend did still lay against it but fortunately reduced the amount he'd intended to bet after my warning.

Don't know why everyone was against it, had group 1 form, and last win was in very soft ground which swung it giving the weather conditions, must admit I am out of touch with racing at the moment, think my last bet before that was at cheltenham

Joeymaz

03-10-2006, 02:15 PM

Hope everyone was just on Forces Sweetheart!!

jamesyg0

03-10-2006, 02:47 PM

Nope had Tipsy Princess at 7/1 and kanpai and hunting lodge in a forecast

Fortunately the second horse fell 20 lengths ahead of hunting lodge so he came through second.

CHERRY TREE BRB

04-10-2006, 05:41 PM

Nice too see that the real jumps season is upon us, with some half decent racing at Bangor and Chepstow on Saturday, all roads lead to cheltenham:p

Ian Hart

04-10-2006, 06:15 PM

Originally posted by CHERRY TREE BRB
Nice too see that the real jumps season is upon us, with some half decent racing at Bangor and Chepstow on Saturday, all roads lead to cheltenham:p

Went to first meeting of season at Towcester today.

Absolutely packed out. But of course it is the only racecourse where entry is free.

LLCOOLSTEVE

04-10-2006, 06:24 PM

Dislike the jumps for live racing as you know your fate way too long before the end of the 'race' or 1 horse procession.

Gooders

04-10-2006, 06:56 PM

Originally posted by Joeymaz
Hope everyone was just on Forces Sweetheart!!

Would have been if I'd been in the shop and seen the price. Can't believe it was 11/1.

Gooders

05-10-2006, 12:35 PM

This isn't info - just a feeling I have.

When Alan Brazil was having his pre-7.00am chat with Derek Thomson he mentioned that he was off to Lingfield today and that he had a runner in the last. He's always very coy but I definitely thought to myself that he fancied it, so I made a note to have a look.

Sands of Barra it's called. Kerrin McEvoy is riding - I'm not sure he's ever ridden for Neville Callaghan before. I took that as a tip and got on at 18/1. It's trading at 14/1 now. Not very well drawn but it won at Lingfield last December off the same rating over the same distance and it looks to me from the form of its last 2 or 3 races that it might not always have been put in the races with a chance.

Might be worth an each-way interest. No promises though - it is a low-grade handicap after all. :)

milky87

05-10-2006, 12:58 PM

get on Penny Park in the 4:40 @ Worcester

der der der der Richard Johnson

jamesyg0

05-10-2006, 02:14 PM

Originally posted by Gooders
This isn't info - just a feeling I have.

When Alan Brazil was having his pre-7.00am chat with Derek Thomson he mentioned that he was off to Lingfield today and that he had a runner in the last. He's always very coy but I definitely thought to myself that he fancied it, so I made a note to have a look.

Sands of Barra it's called. Kerrin McEvoy is riding - I'm not sure he's ever ridden for Neville Callaghan before. I took that as a tip and got on at 18/1. It's trading at 14/1 now. Not very well drawn but it won at Lingfield last December off the same rating over the same distance and it looks to me from the form of its last 2 or 3 races that it might not always have been put in the races with a chance.

Might be worth an each-way interest. No promises though - it is a low-grade handicap after all. :)

got a small bet each way. Fingers crossed ey

milky87

05-10-2006, 02:32 PM

3:50 Lingfield - Desert CRISTAL and Zabeel PALACE

got to be worth £1 rfc

jamesyg0

05-10-2006, 03:09 PM

Didnt fancy Descartes then

milky87

05-10-2006, 03:14 PM

Originally posted by jamesyg0
Didnt fancy Descartes then

Yes I did but if i had not done a small forecast on 2 palace related horses I would have been gutted

Gooders

05-10-2006, 07:16 PM

Originally posted by jamesyg0
got a small bet each way. Fingers crossed ey

Sorry Jamesy. They put the horse in the race this time - was up with the pace rather than being dropped out and staying on late.

He just wasn't good enough.

jamesyg0

05-10-2006, 09:25 PM

nevermind was up for the day thanks to descartes

Ian Hart

05-10-2006, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by jamesyg0
nevermind was up for the day thanks to descartes

It was a remarkable training achievement.

Gooders

06-10-2006, 06:25 AM

It was.

Wonder how the Godolphin team will do today at York?

jamesyg0

06-10-2006, 09:43 AM

I reckon 2 winners Priors Hill and Army of Angels possibly Scriptwriter e/w

Gooders

06-10-2006, 09:49 AM

Originally posted by jamesyg0
I reckon 2 winners Priors Hill and Angel Delight possibly Scriptwriter e/w

You mean Army of Angels. Yep, I might include both of those in my perms today. There's quite a few I fancy (although I rarely manage to pick winners at York):

Priors Hill 2.20
Osteopathic Remedy 2.50
Army of Angels 3.25
Elkhorn 4.35
Luna Landing 5.05

And at Lingfield:

Forest Dane 3.05
Strobilus 3.35
Woodcote Place 4.45
Captain Margaret 5.15

jamesyg0

06-10-2006, 09:52 AM

Close enough :)

saul1664

06-10-2006, 09:55 AM

looks poor today

good offer in RP if you book newbury for 21st for £10, get entry, pint of green king ipa (rancid) and free £10 bet + racing post, so essentially free. Only have to book 7 days in advance.

jamesyg0

06-10-2006, 10:09 AM

Do you reckon Elkhorn will go on the ground? hasnt won on anything softer then good and its soft today

Gooders

06-10-2006, 11:31 AM

I think it has a good chance but it's a bit skinny at 3/1.

I changed my mind a bit today (always a stupid idea) and did these:

Topatoo 2.20 York
Osteopathic Remedy 2.50 York
Glenbuck 3.25 York
I'm Right 3.35 Lingfield

Forest Dane 3.05 Lingfield
Elkhorn 4.35 York
Woodcote Place 4.45 Lingfield
Halla San 5.05 York

LLCOOLSTEVE

06-10-2006, 12:09 PM

Cant believe Pride is as big as 5/1 for the Champion Stakes...

palace & proud

06-10-2006, 06:41 PM

Originally posted by jamesyg0
I reckon Priors Hill

I lumped on the beast :sob:

jamesyg0

06-10-2006, 07:08 PM

covered my back with the other godolphin runner e/w

palace & proud

06-10-2006, 07:17 PM

Originally posted by jamesyg0
covered my back with the other godolphin runner e/w

Someone in the betting shop had £50 E/W on Scriptwriter.

hakers

06-10-2006, 08:32 PM

Originally posted by palace & proud
I lumped on the beast :sob:

:(

Thought you were off it mate?

Ian Hart

06-10-2006, 09:10 PM

You really shouldn't lump on anything on the flat at this time of the season - for a variety of reasons, nothing is certain. In fact, I virtually stop backing flat horses from about mid September when the going starts to change, and so previous form becomes unreliable.

If you do want to bet, keep it small.

hakers

06-10-2006, 10:29 PM

Originally posted by Ian Hart
You really shouldn't lump on anything on the flat at this time of the season - for a variety of reasons, nothing is certain. In fact, I virtually stop backing flat horses from about mid September when the going starts to change, and so previous form becomes unreliable.

If you do want to bet, keep it small.

Wise words. Dodgy time of year on the turf flat at best of times, tired horses etc but the way the weather has been the last few days makes it even worst.

Saying that I had 4 large ew bets today - see you there, had a little word on this, fished 4th :( - woodnook mr consistant, thought this was like buying money for a place at least, ended up winning - thought it significant that robbo went to linggers rather than matty henry to ride for jarvis so backed strobilus who was a great price at 11/2 and dotted up and Rochdale who was beat by a neck into second at 10s.