Horse & Greyhound Betting tips [Archive] - Page 22

Beckenham Boy

31-07-2007, 08:06 AM

If you like a punt on the Greyhounds, my mate has a great little dog running tonight at Hove. This is the email he sent me: -

"If you’re around tomorrow evening, tune into Sky Sports 1 for the action from Hove – Jazz Hurricane in the Sussex Cup Final. 9.45 race. Coverage starts at 7.30. There is a warm favourite in trap 4 outside her but she is still overpriced with Blue Sq. at 12-1. She was second fastest in the semis and should continue to improve over the coming weeks."

I got £20 on her at 10s

Gooders

31-07-2007, 08:39 AM

Originally posted by Ian Hart
On the other hand, your Goldmine record is second only to Oz......;)

Goldmine/smoldmine. My punting record over the last 12 months on here stands comparison with most - in fact if we added up all the returns from the Betting Masters/Champions League and the Goldmine I'm sure I'd be in the top 10.

:p

Young Trolley

31-07-2007, 12:34 PM

Originally posted by Gooders
I checked with the course. The Lennox Enclosure is the riff-raff area and the closest you can get to the winning post is 1 furlong out! Still, the weather is going to be nice and it's a day out, so we're going anyway. :)

Sussex Stakes on Wednesday. :lux: Been in there many times Gooders, it's fine, you'll have a great day. Always went to Goodwood on the Friday with my Dad as it's just a couple of days before my birthday. This will be the first year I won't be :(

I love Goodwood, one of my favourite meetings! :p

Gooders

31-07-2007, 02:40 PM

Thanks YT.

Gav The Hamster

31-07-2007, 02:41 PM

Originally posted by saul1664

Best bet (and only one I am having of the day) is

2.50 AQALEEM

I think you should have had more than just the one bet :o

LLCOOLSTEVE

31-07-2007, 02:55 PM

Originally posted by LLCOOLSTEVE
Goodwood Tues

2.15 Night Cescendo
2.50 Raincoat
3.25 Mutawaajid
4.00 Kingsgate Native

shitty so far

unpl
3rd 9/2
unpl

:(

4.35 Swan Queen
5.05 Moynahan
5.40 Waterside

Still keen on Kingsgate Native in the 4pm

Gav The Hamster

31-07-2007, 03:00 PM

When i seem to follow you Steve it goes tits up !

4.35 Nosferatu
5.05 - House e/w
5.40 - Waterside e/w

LLCOOLSTEVE

31-07-2007, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by LLCOOLSTEVE

Still keen on Kingsgate Native in the 4pm

bloody 2nd by a head :grrr:

Gav The Hamster

31-07-2007, 03:07 PM

21de

hopefully i got it matched to place. Why oh why can i not get betfair at work.

Gooders

31-07-2007, 04:34 PM

Last minute changes of mind permitting, these are probably the horses I'll be backing at Goodwood tomorrow:

2.15 Full House
2.50 Rio De La Plata (NAP)
3.30 Excellent Art
4.05 Samira Gold
4.40 Lisathedaddy
5.10 Lille Ida
5.45 Diamond Diva

Finbar

31-07-2007, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by Gav The Hamster
hopefully i got it matched to place. Why oh why can i not get betfair at work.

you can download it onto your phone, works brilliantly for me, also handy if you're watching footy in the pub and it's a dull game!

you can see if your handset is compatible here
http://www.betfairmobile.com/main/compatibilityguide.jsp

Good luck tomorrow Gooders :p

Montpellier in the last at goodwood, purely for the colours

Gooders

31-07-2007, 04:43 PM

Cheers Fin. :p

Finbar

31-07-2007, 04:46 PM

Originally posted by Finbar

Montpellier in the last at goodwood, purely for the colours

hit a wall of horses about 5 times, will probably worth a look if it runs again at the meeting

Adamant Approach in the next at Galway

LLCOOLSTEVE

31-07-2007, 04:50 PM

Originally posted by LLCOOLSTEVE

5.40 Waterside

3rd at 16/1 :grrr:

Finbar

31-07-2007, 04:53 PM

unlucky LL, not sure how Adamant Approach didn't win but laid it off at 1.4 for a small profit

LLCOOLSTEVE

31-07-2007, 05:09 PM

The next at Galway two against the field

Kalamkar
Broughtons folly

both 25/1

Finbar

31-07-2007, 05:16 PM

each one 60/1 on betfair, have backed with a view to laying off for a free 40/1 bet :p

LLCOOLSTEVE

31-07-2007, 05:24 PM

You should have been able to lay off Broughtons folly there id think

Finbar

31-07-2007, 05:25 PM

yep, got as short as 5/2 at one point so money back on that one, the other only got matched at 34.0, game winner!

jamesyg0

31-07-2007, 05:47 PM

black chalk being backed at perth 6/1 into 7/2

LLCOOLSTEVE

31-07-2007, 05:48 PM

Quinmaster 14/1
Incline 16//1

in the 7pm

irish Big field handicaps are a nightmare

Finbar

31-07-2007, 06:00 PM

I'm on, last race of the night for me I think

LLCOOLSTEVE

31-07-2007, 06:05 PM

Originally posted by LLCOOLSTEVE
Quinmaster 14/1
Incline 16//1

in the 7pm

irish Big field handicaps are a nightmare

I think Incline won at 20/1

Gooders

31-07-2007, 06:07 PM

Steve - I'd be interested to hear what you like at Goodwood tomorrow - I'll be out of here by 10am though. :p

Finbar

31-07-2007, 06:07 PM

LL, you are a genius!!

backed £10 it at 42/1, laid off at 11/1, for a £300 profit :lux: :lux:

time to cook dinner, hope you were on too!!

LLCOOLSTEVE

31-07-2007, 07:02 PM

Excellent :)

Went off 25/1 with the bookies!

LLCOOLSTEVE

31-07-2007, 07:07 PM

Another tricky handicap at 8.10

like Inwood at 14/1, and Dafaroun at 10/1

LLCOOLSTEVE

31-07-2007, 07:15 PM

Originally posted by LLCOOLSTEVE
Another tricky handicap at 8.10

like Inwood at 14/1, and Dafaroun at 10/1

haha

Dafaroun came 2nd
Inwood came 3rd

!!

:moo:

Embassy No.1

31-07-2007, 07:21 PM

Good man LL. I put em both each way.

LLCOOLSTEVE

31-07-2007, 07:26 PM

20 more yards and Dafaroun would have won

never mind :)

LLCOOLSTEVE

31-07-2007, 07:30 PM

Sweet peak at about 3/1 at 8.40

Cant back this fav at 5/4

saul1664

31-07-2007, 07:31 PM

Originally posted by saul1664
All Goodwood...

2.15 Championship Point
2.50 Aqaleem
3.25 Tariq
4.00 Starlit Sands
4.35 Castle Howard
5.05 Moynahan
5.40 Prince of Thebes

Well the weather may be glorious, the racing less so.

Best bet (and only one I am having of the day) is

2.50 AQALEEM

An impressive winner of a group 3 by 4 lengths, and finished 3rd in the Derby from a tricky draw, will be suited by the St Leger trip but should start by winning here. Yellowstone is 5lb clear on ratings, but his eclipse 4th does tend to flatter him a bit, he has been placed in group events but has never really looked like winning one, and has a lot of mileage already this season, therefore Aqaleem is a confident choice.

Tariq is chosen over Asset purely because he is improving and a couple of these have had indifferent runs over shorter distances.

Starlit Sands has done nothing wrong, but this is a tricky race again, and Captain Gerrard is another improver to be careful of.

Hmmm, 2 winners from the first 3 selections and I back the only loser :moo:

Having said that Richard Hills gave the horse a terrible ride, boxed him in, Yellowstone had about a 4 length head start and he went down half a length to a neck, unfortunately, the time he got out because of Goodwood's short straight he didn't get the time to ride the horse out properly. He's desperately unlucky, I rate him at least a 2 length winner of this race if he had been ridden anywhere near properly. I would think he would be extremely hard to beat in the St Leger.

Young Trolley

31-07-2007, 07:33 PM

Had a little bit of Fleeting Spirit at 8's today, looks potentially like a very nice 2 year old. 2 wins from 2 now.

LLCOOLSTEVE

31-07-2007, 08:42 PM

Originally posted by Gooders
Steve - I'd be interested to hear what you like at Goodwood tomorrow - I'll be out of here by 10am though. :p

2.15 Noble Minstrel
2.50 Il Warrd
3.30 Asiatic Boy
4.05 samira Gold
4.40 Gyroscope - hardest race of the day to work out
5.10 Fashion Rocks - was a real big eye catcher at Lingfield, remember watching it thinking that it needs to be backed next time out!
5.45 ceremonial Jade

Gooders

31-07-2007, 08:49 PM

Thanks mate. We only agree on one - I think I'll back both of our selections in each race. :p

By the way, I can't believe Rio De La Plata can get beat - I watched its last race in the shop and it absolutely hacked up - Frankie was looking behind him 2 furlongs out. Won in a canter.

LLCOOLSTEVE

31-07-2007, 08:58 PM

Originally posted by Gooders
Thanks mate. We only agree on one - I think I'll back both of our selections in each race. :p

By the way, I can't believe Rio De La Plata can get beat - I watched its last race in the shop and it absolutely hacked up - Frankie was looking behind him 2 furlongs out. Won in a canter.

If its anything less than 5/4 I wont back it..... looking at the prices and the form I think Il Warrd offers more value, depends how much you are willing to risk on a possible odds on shot though!

Gooders

31-07-2007, 09:01 PM

When I go racing I keep the stakes level, irrespective of price (and I expect to come home without any :) ). But if I had to back one horse for my life tomorrow, it would be that one.

Ian Hart

31-07-2007, 09:56 PM

Those of you who like to back horses over the jumps to win, might like to keep your eye on a horse called Pouilly. I had quite a substantial lay on him in the 6:30 at Perth tonight, so I watched him closely. When they jumped the fourth from home I was getting quite concerned. He had made nice progress through the field into approx 5th place and looked to be going worryingly easily. But then he got blocked in on the rails by other horses, and twice in a few seconds the jockey had to pull him back hard to stop him running into the horse just ahead. He never recovered from this, and finished out of the first three. :lux:

However, I don't think that was a reflection of how he ran, and I suspect they will be able to find a maiden he can win. I reckon he might do better over 2 miles rather than today's 2.5 miles. One to keep your eye on.

saul1664

31-07-2007, 10:20 PM

Let's try Goodwood again...

2.15 Full House
2.50 Rio De La Plata
3.30 Ramoniti
4.05 Mariotto
4.40 Rhuepunzel
5.10 Contessina
5.45 Race to the Music

Another tricky day.

Rio De La Plata looks a standout for the 2.50, despite his maiden win not amounting to too much - though this is best ignored, the maiden he won is often used as a stepping stone by trainers to better things. Having said that there are currently others with better form and those who can improve as well. I think Donegal could give him most to do.

Excellent Art is well fancied for the 3.30 but his neck victory doesn't read anywhere near as well as Ramoniti's narrow victory, where he had Jeremy, George Washington and Cesare (winner since) back in the field, though it was a blanket finish. Expect another very close finish as these are nearly all rated to finish in a line.

But the best bet of the day lies away from the glory of goodwood.

6.00 LEICESTER

OASIS WIND

Paul Cole introduced this colt at Windsor where he ran a very creditable third, and unless the newcomers are anything special, looks a certain winner in waiting here. He's also booked an apprentice to take 5lb off his back. Not much value at 5/4 early prices but near enough nailed on.

LLCOOLSTEVE

31-07-2007, 10:50 PM

Even if i have no Goodwood winners all week ill still be happy that I found a 41/1 winner for Finbar :)

Finbar

01-08-2007, 06:32 AM

me too LL!

and if we ever meet then you're first beers are on me, got a nice bank for Goodwood and Galway now :p

Finbar

01-08-2007, 12:13 PM

selections and odds for Goodwood today (gone with LL on a couple I had no idea on!!)

2.15 Noble Minstrel, 18.0 win and 3.9 for a place
2.50 Ellmau to be placed 4.3
3.30 Asiatic Boy at 4.8 loving the way the trainer is talking it's chances down, always a good sign
4.05 Philatelist at 14.0 and Man of Vision at 9.0 purely on the colours
4.40 Ronaldsay 13.5 win
5.10 Fashion Rocks 6.2 win
5.45 Turnkey 7.0 win

Gav The Hamster

01-08-2007, 12:54 PM

Fin, whats the price of the fav in the 2.50 currently on betfair ?

Joeymaz

01-08-2007, 01:01 PM

1.75 - Rio De La

Gav The Hamster

01-08-2007, 01:05 PM

cheers mate. looks nailed on then

Finbar

01-08-2007, 01:08 PM

not up against a lot but a short price in a field of 2yr olds in my (non expert) opinion

have a free phone upgrade for Nokia N95 or E65, anyone got any comments, was going to go for the 65 till I heard the 95 would be free. My thoughts are that even if I don't like the N95 I can sell it for about £250 on ebay and pretty much get whatever phone I fancy, any thoughts welcome (both compatible with Betfair mobile thankfully!)

saul1664

01-08-2007, 03:49 PM

Originally posted by saul1664
Let's try Goodwood again...

2.15 Full House
2.50 Rio De La Plata
3.30 Ramoniti
4.05 Mariotto
4.40 Rhuepunzel
5.10 Contessina
5.45 Race to the Music

Another tricky day.

Rio De La Plata looks a standout for the 2.50, despite his maiden win not amounting to too much - though this is best ignored, the maiden he won is often used as a stepping stone by trainers to better things. Having said that there are currently others with better form and those who can improve as well. I think Donegal could give him most to do.

Excellent Art is well fancied for the 3.30 but his neck victory doesn't read anywhere near as well as Ramoniti's narrow victory, where he had Jeremy, George Washington and Cesare (winner since) back in the field, though it was a blanket finish. Expect another very close finish as these are nearly all rated to finish in a line.

But the best bet of the day lies away from the glory of goodwood.

6.00 LEICESTER

OASIS WIND

Paul Cole introduced this colt at Windsor where he ran a very creditable third, and unless the newcomers are anything special, looks a certain winner in waiting here. He's also booked an apprentice to take 5lb off his back. Not much value at 5/4 early prices but near enough nailed on.

Hmmm 8/13 winenr by a long way and 9/2 winner with one to go, with the forecast in the second as well.

Finbar

01-08-2007, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by LLCOOLSTEVE

5.10 Fashion Rocks - was a real big eye catcher at Lingfield, remember watching it thinking that it needs to be backed next time out!

Cheers LL, got me out of a bit of a hole today!

saul1664

01-08-2007, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by saul1664
Hmmm 8/13 winenr by a long way and 9/2 winner with one to go, with the forecast in the second as well.

Three out of three. Last one very impressive.

Gooders

01-08-2007, 07:19 PM

Had a great day at Goodwood today - really good fun.

Backed Rio De La Plata (naturally, after the way I was banging on about it) and switched from Excellent Art to Ramonti in search of value.

Also switched to Steve's tip on Fashion Rocks instead of Lille Ida - another good move.

Me and the family had the 2nd, 3rd and 4th in the last but we'd backed them all to win, unfortunately.

Would thoroughly recommend Glorious Goodwood to anyone after today.

LLCOOLSTEVE

01-08-2007, 07:30 PM

Almost expected to see you in the winners enclosure with Sheik Mohammed and Mr Bin Suroor after Rio De La Platas win!! :)

It won easily didnt it, I still coulnt have backed it, just because I really dont like backing heavy odds on shots. Looks a very good horse though, IlWarrd was far to keen and got worked up too early to stand any chance, I knew 4 out he wouldnt win.

Embassy No.1

01-08-2007, 07:40 PM

Well the betting account has swung massively throughout the afternoon. Currently £39.05 up. No great shakes, but an enjoyable day's betting.

Gone for Evident Pride at 6/1 on the 8.50 at Kempton.

Gooders

01-08-2007, 07:49 PM

Originally posted by LLCOOLSTEVE
Almost expected to see you in the winners enclosure with Sheik Mohammed and Mr Bin Suroor after Rio De La Platas win!! :)

It won easily didnt it, I still coulnt have backed it, just because I really dont like backing heavy odds on shots. Looks a very good horse though, IlWarrd was far to keen and got worked up too early to stand any chance, I knew 4 out he wouldnt win.

There was a time when I would have switched to something representing "better value" but I couldn't see it getting beat so I actually broke my own rules and upped the stakes a bit. When they went past us one and a half furlongs out I told the family it was a question of how far it would win by. :)

Good tip on Fashion Rocks Steve (though I thought for a minute it was going to get done on the line). :p

Embassy No.1

01-08-2007, 08:10 PM

Originally posted by Embassy No.1

Gone for Evident Pride at 6/1 on the 8.50 at Kempton. :lux:

Turned out as best Day for ages. :)

Stopped posting on this thread as it was getting embarrassing. May start again if I've regained my form (touching wood as I type).

Trying Featherlight at 4/1 in the 9.20

EDIT: Should've kept my mouth shut. :rolleyes:

LLCOOLSTEVE

01-08-2007, 09:45 PM

Thurs

2.15 Brisk breeze, but High Heel Sneekers I like alot too.
2.50 Wi Dud
3.25 Geordieland
4.00 Buccellati
4.35 Miss Lucifer
5.05 Amhooj e/w
5.40 Texas Gold

Ian Hart

01-08-2007, 11:03 PM

Originally posted by Gooders
There was a time when I would have switched to something representing "better value" but I couldn't see it getting beat so I actually broke my own rules and upped the stakes a bit.

I think there is sometimes misunderstandings when people discuss "value", particularly where it relates to odds on favourites, as it's frequently commented that there is never value where the odds are so small. But that is simply an incorrect generalisation.

Good value is a bet where the odds on offer are significantly higher than the true odds (assuming you can accurately assess the true odds). In this particular case you assessed Rio de la Platas to be virtually unbeatable. Let's say you believed his real chances were around 6 to 1 on (i.e. he would win the race six times out of seven) which from the way you went on about him, you certainly did! In that case, the bookmakers odds represented (to you) very good value by comparison. :p

Mind you, assessing real odds is a tricky business. My only bet today was a lay on Lutea in the 5:20 at Perth. As usual, to assess whether the odds on offer represented value, I went through the runners to take a view on who might conceivably beat him. In doing so, I took the view that Gold Gun had no chance, simply because in the last race at Perth the night before he had got up in the very last stride to dead heat. It seemed highly unlikely he could be counted on to win, when he had won such a hard fought race less than 24 hours earlier and was surely still recovering. But Gold Gun skated home. What do I know! :o

ozeagle

01-08-2007, 11:58 PM

"horse can't peak twice in a week"

:lux:

saul1664

02-08-2007, 12:33 AM

Two good days tipping at Goodwood so far, lets make it a good 3rd day ...

2.15 Wannabe Posh
2.50 Wi Dud
3.25 Geordieland
4.00 Hearthstead Maison
4.35 Smookh
5.10 Amhooj
5.40 George the Second

A pretty ordinary days racing to be honest. If you must have a bet. Wannabe Posh should turn the tables on Trick or Treat as his form is progressive and Trick or Treat hasn't really come on from his debut win.

Wi Dud was a good second to Hoh Mike recently but this is a tough race to call and to take a low price about.

Geordieland is probably a worthy favourite and may be best of the day, though he is certainly quirky and has to race with exaggerated waiting tactics. Any chink in his armour will probably be exposed by Balkan Knight.

LLCOOLSTEVE

02-08-2007, 12:37 AM

Copycat :)

saul1664

02-08-2007, 12:41 AM

Originally posted by saul1664
Two good days tipping at Goodwood so far, lets make it a good 3rd day ...

2.15 Wannabe Posh
2.50 Wi Dud
3.25 Geordieland
4.00 Hearthstead Maison
4.35 Smookh
5.10 Amhooj
5.40 George the Second

A pretty ordinary days racing to be honest. If you must have a bet. Wannabe Posh should turn the tables on Trick or Treat as his form is progressive and Trick or Treat hasn't really come on from his debut win.

Wi Dud was a good second to Hoh Mike recently but this is a tough race to call and to take a low price about.

Geordieland is probably a worthy favourite and may be best of the day, though he is certainly quirky and has to race with exaggerated waiting tactics. Any chink in his armour will probably be exposed by Balkan Knight.

Over at Nottingham in the 4.20, Time Over looks nailed on though only trading at 1.46, and Mu'Abb looks like it could be fairly useful in the 7.00 at Sandown, currently trading at about 13/8, though there are a few useful newcomers here.

Gooders

02-08-2007, 06:31 AM

Glad I went yesterday and not today.

Some sporting selections:

2.15 Trick Or Treat
2.50 The Tatling
3.25 Rayhani
4.00 Hearthstead Maison
4.35 Docofthebay
5.05 Park Royal
5.40 Little Edward

remmer

02-08-2007, 06:54 AM

LLCOOLSTEVE
2.15 Brisk breeze, but High Heel Sneekers I like alot too.
2.50 Wi Dud
3.25 Geordieland
4.00 Buccellati
4.35 Miss Lucifer
5.05 Amhooj e/w
5.40 Texas Gold

saul1664
2.15 Wannabe Posh
2.50 Wi Dud
3.25 Geordieland
4.00 Hearthstead Maison
4.35 Smookh
5.10 Amhooj
5.40 George the Second

Gooders
2.15 Trick Or Treat
2.50 The Tatling
3.25 Rayhani
4.00 Hearthstead Maison
4.35 Docofthebay
5.05 Park Royal
5.40 Little Edward

You haven't agreed on ONE!

Gav The Hamster

02-08-2007, 09:42 AM

May as well add mine in here. Bit of help from the missus

2.15 Trick Or Treat to place - High Calypso to win
2.50 The Jobber and Tax Free to place
3.25 Balkan Knight to place
4.00 Emerald Wilderness to place
4.35 Miss Lucifer to win and place
5.05 Celtic Slipper to place
5.40 Pic Up Sticks to win and place.

Dont hold out any hopes but playing very small stakes

Ian Hart

02-08-2007, 09:47 AM

Originally posted by ozeagle
"horse can't peak twice in a week"

:lux:

But I didn't say it couldn't peak twice in 24 hours :D

€pfc

02-08-2007, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by Gooders

Would thoroughly recommend Glorious Goodwood to anyone after today.

On a sunny day you cannot beat Glorious Goodwood best meeting I've gone to in this country by a long way.:p

Gooders

02-08-2007, 10:41 AM

Thing is, I'm generally by the winning post when I go racing and I wasn't looking forward to being a furlong away - but in fact what you get to see close up is the point in the race where the jockeys are getting really busy and horses are getting chopped off in their runs etc. and it's actually pretty exciting, even if you end up relying on the commentary to find out who has won.

Spectacular setting too, Goodwood.

€pfc

02-08-2007, 10:46 AM

Went in the Lennox enclosure once and was a bit disappointed due to Southampton fans and Pompey fans kicking off but that was on the Saturdays racing. The previous couple of days we were in the Gordon and Richmond enclosures and both were spot on!

saul1664

02-08-2007, 04:06 PM

Ryan Moore on fire 2000/1 four timer

Gav The Hamster

02-08-2007, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by Gav The Hamster

2.15 Trick Or Treat to place - High Calypso to win
2.50 The Jobber and Tax Free to place
3.25 Balkan Knight to place
4.00 Emerald Wilderness to place
4.35 Miss Lucifer to win and place
5.05 Celtic Slipper to place
5.40 Pic Up Sticks to win and place.

1st and 3rd
nowhere and 3rd
nowhere
nowhere
nowhere
33/1 winner shame i had it to place only.

1 left to go, better than i was expecting

saul1664

02-08-2007, 06:09 PM

Originally posted by saul1664
Over at Nottingham in the 4.20, Time Over looks nailed on though only trading at 1.46, and Mutab looks like it could be fairly useful in the 7.00 at Sandown, currently trading at about 13/8, though there are a few useful newcomers here.

Fecks sake. Mutab led all the way, was 1 and a half lengths clear inside the final furlong, traded at 1.02 in running and got beaten right on the line by a newcomer.

saul1664

02-08-2007, 10:44 PM

OK lets go again...

All Goodwood ...

2.15 Perfectperformance
2.50 Redstone Dancer
3.30 Vortex
4.05 One Great Cat
4.40 La Chickaluna
5.10 Fire Up The Band
5.40 Diminuto

It's an appalling days racing and these are selected in hope rather than anything else.

saul1664

02-08-2007, 10:48 PM

Captain Brilliance may be the best bet of the day at Newmarket in the 7.00, green first time out when 7/4F, should be much more straightforward here, however running against several well regarded newcomers and got my fingers burnt yesterday against a tregoning newcomer so not getting involved here.

LLCOOLSTEVE

02-08-2007, 11:22 PM

Originally posted by saul1664

It's an appalling days racing and these are selected in hope rather than anything else.

Hardly :confused:

Give me this any day over a banded meeting at Southwell

anyways

2.15 Munsef
2.50 Rainbow Promises
3.30 Supaseus
4.05 Sharp Nephew
4.40 Shifting Star
5.10 Roman Maze
5.45 Rasaman

saul1664

03-08-2007, 12:25 AM

That's not really a comparison is it.

Gooders

03-08-2007, 07:23 AM

They don't do banded meetings any more.

It's an impossible card (and I too think it's lacking in quality for a meeting of this calibre).

€pfc

03-08-2007, 09:34 AM

My selections for today
2.15 Purple moon ew
2.50 Tarteel ew
3.30 King of Argos
4.05 One Great Cat
4.40 Sofia's star ew
5.10 Border Music ew
5.45 Valery Borzov ew

Anyone going to Goodwood tomorrow having toss up whether to go to the game or Goodwood

Finbar

03-08-2007, 09:59 AM

I'll be there with 8 others :lux:

Just got sent this, danger....

"How many are going on the bus tomorrow?

I've got a rather large bottle of champagne left over from my birthday that
we can get stuck into on the way down."

jamesyg0

03-08-2007, 10:15 AM

2.15 Perfectperformance
2.50 Majestic Roi
3.30 Drumfire
4.05 Master Chef
4.40 Betchworth Kid
5.10 Roman Maze
5.45 Valery Borzov

Ian Hart

03-08-2007, 12:07 PM

Originally posted by Finbar
I'll be there with 8 others :lux:

Just got sent this, danger....

"How many are going on the bus tomorrow?

I've got a rather large bottle of champagne left over from my birthday that
we can get stuck into on the way down."

A good idea to drink the champers on the way down. You may not feel like drinking it on the way back ;)

Finbar

03-08-2007, 12:22 PM

am off out tonight so may actually pass on the champagne, is very dangerous

anyway, my tips and am ignoring the 5.10 as it's a lottery and I'll be on the tube (though I may well yet back Fire up the Band...)

2.15 Stotsfold at 13.5
2.50 Wake up Maggie at 13.0
Wake up Maggie to be placed at 9/2
3.30 Montpellier at 9/1 and was so unlucky on Tuesday, finished 5th with loads still in the tank
4.05 Master Chef at 10.0 (after Western Art withdrawn)
4.40 Golden Penny at 9.2 with small bets on The Betchworth Kid at 20.0 and Gulf Coast at 21.0
5.45 Marozi at 6.2

Finbar

03-08-2007, 02:02 PM

Originally posted by Finbar
am off out tonight so may actually pass on the champagne, is very dangerous

anyway, my tips and am ignoring the 5.10 as it's a lottery and I'll be on the tube (though I may well yet back Fire up the Band...)

2.50 Wake up Maggie at 13.0
Wake up Maggie to be placed at 9/2

all 5 blokes going tomorrow lumped on Wake Up Maggie :lux: :lux: :lux:

(and only because one of us has been going on about it all summer)

Also had Stotsfold for a place in the first, good start to the day!

Finbar

03-08-2007, 02:36 PM

one of my mates has backed these today, assume in singles

Choices for today

14:15 Purple Moon
14:50 Wake Up Maggie
15:30 Third Set
16:05 One great cat
16:40 Distant Charm
17:10 Fire up the Band E/W
17:45 Sohraeb

LLCOOLSTEVE

03-08-2007, 02:42 PM

Wake up Maggie won really really well at Lingfield earlier this summer, but then was awful over in Ireland so I swerved the horse cause of that run, but it ran well today and again won well, quickened nicely.

That was a horrible pile up in the last race, hope all jockeys and horses are ok.

LLCOOLSTEVE

03-08-2007, 02:44 PM

Originally posted by LLCOOLSTEVE

4.05 Sharp Nephew

non runner so ill go with Exhibition at around 8/1

Finbar

03-08-2007, 03:33 PM

Originally posted by LLCOOLSTEVE
Wake up Maggie won really really well at Lingfield earlier this summer, but then was awful over in Ireland so I swerved the horse cause of that run, but it ran well today and again won well, quickened nicely.

That was a horrible pile up in the last race, hope all jockeys and horses are ok.

yep think this was the race (assuming that's what my mate sent me this morning!) http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NcKbd3e5RLY

Were all the horses and riders ok?

LLCOOLSTEVE

03-08-2007, 03:44 PM

Coasting has just won 10/1, I backed it at Royal Ascot and it came in 10th, sods effing law

LLCOOLSTEVE

03-08-2007, 03:48 PM

Originally I picked Roman Maze for the 5.10, but I like Lady Livius too at a huge 40/1

saul1664

03-08-2007, 08:06 PM

Originally posted by saul1664
Captain Brilliance may be the best bet of the day at Newmarket in the 7.00, green first time out when 7/4F, should be much more straightforward here, however running against several well regarded newcomers and got my fingers burnt yesterday against a tregoning newcomer so not getting involved here.

typically won well with me not backing it, pretty short at 8/11 though

Gooders

03-08-2007, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by LLCOOLSTEVE
non runner so ill go with Exhibition at around 8/1

Exhibition beaten under 3l in that Group 2 race today.

Rio De La Plata beat it 6l in a canter race before last. The Goldolphin horse is definitely Group class, if there were still any doubts. :p

LLCOOLSTEVE

03-08-2007, 10:58 PM

Originally posted by Gooders
Exhibition beaten under 3l in that Group 2 race today.

Rio De La Plata beat it 6l in a canter race before last. The Goldolphin horse is definitely Group class, if there were still any doubts. :p

BUT it was Exhibitions first time out int hat previous race and Rio had run before ;)

LLCOOLSTEVE

03-08-2007, 11:22 PM

Goodwood

2.10 Fourteenth
2.45 Rahiyah
3.20 Mandesha
3.55 Something
4.30 Pha Mai Blue
5.05 Romany Princess
5.40 Peruvian prince

LLCOOLSTEVE

03-08-2007, 11:27 PM

Newmarket

2.25 Pathos
3.00 Final Verse
3.35 Fidelias dance

LLCOOLSTEVE

03-08-2007, 11:36 PM

Best bet of the day is sat evening at Lingfield,

Sweetsformysweet in the 8pm, finished in behind Marozi by 2 lengths who went on to win a handicap today (friday) at Goodwood. Anything odds against should be snapped up!

Gav The Hamster

03-08-2007, 11:41 PM

trading at just below evens on betfair, you fancy it that much ?

saul1664

03-08-2007, 11:46 PM

Let's see what we can do tomorrow...

Firstly Goodwood ...

2.10 Purple Emperor
2.45 Tobosa
3.20 Light Shift
3.55 Fayr Jag
4.30 Bouguereau
5.05 Dark Tara
5.40 Lucayan Dancer

Certainly again massively quantity over quality, however you couldn't expect a much better race than the 3.20 and with comes the best bet of the day.

3.20 Light Shift

Many will fancy peeping fawn after his 3 and a half lengths demolition of Light Shift in Ireland, however the ground was heavy which contributed to that defeat, and Light Shift finished in front of Peeping Fawn in the Oaks on faster ground, quickening very well and I expect her to come out in front again. Admirable though Peeping Fawn is, her mileage is a bit of a concern as well. There are others which chances as well but at estimated 11/4 Light Shift looks like pretty good value.

LLCOOLSTEVE

04-08-2007, 12:01 AM

Originally posted by Gav The Hamster
trading at just below evens on betfair, you fancy it that much ?

yup

LLCOOLSTEVE

04-08-2007, 03:08 PM

Originally posted by LLCOOLSTEVE
Newmarket

2.25 Pathos
3.00 Final Verse
3.35 Fidelias dance

1st 7/2
1st 4/1
unpl

E_girl

09-08-2007, 08:42 AM

Have heard that Wimbledon Dogs has been sold/will shut down end of the year. Any truth in this? P & P?

A shame if true, as enjoy going there. :(

lightweight

09-08-2007, 08:46 AM

Originally posted by E_girl
Have heard that Wimbledon Dogs has been sold/will shut down end of the year. Any truth in this? P & P?

A shame if true, as enjoy going there. :(

haven't heard anything, but hope not :(

E_girl

09-08-2007, 09:02 AM

Originally posted by lightweight
haven't heard anything, but hope not :(

Only heard yesterday, it was sold on Sunday apparently.

palace & proud

09-08-2007, 10:18 AM

Originally posted by E_girl
Have heard that Wimbledon Dogs has been sold/will shut down end of the year. Any truth in this? P & P?

A shame if true, as enjoy going there. :(

Bloody hell:(

Theres been so much talk about wimbledon closing for the last couple of years and is still going.I'm not sure what is happening with the place.If it does close - the Derby just wont be the same being moved to a different track.

:(

E_girl

09-08-2007, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by palace & proud
Bloody hell:(

Theres been so much talk about wimbledon closing for the last couple of years and is still going.I'm not sure what is happening with the place.If it does close - the Derby just wont be the same being moved to a different track.

:(

Big bit of land when you think of it - the car park/market - will probably end up being flats.

E_girl

10-08-2007, 10:59 AM

Originally posted by palace & proud
Bloody hell:(

Theres been so much talk about wimbledon closing for the last couple of years and is still going.I'm not sure what is happening with the place.If it does close - the Derby just wont be the same being moved to a different track.

:(

Commentator at Crayford I told you about has asked around & no-one in the game has heard anything. So hopefully no truth in it.

Micky Spilane

10-08-2007, 01:35 PM

Onenightinlisbon out today, 4.45 Lingfield best price 12/1 but a massive 19/1 in from 22/1 on Betfair been placed three times out of five at Linfield though admittedly small fields. It has previously won at 20/1 and 11/1. Longest traveller of the day 542 miles with N Callan on board.

I've had £5.50 win at 19/1 and £5.00 at 9/2 for a place.

Good luck if you put anything on this.

Micky Spilane

10-08-2007, 01:37 PM

Originally posted by Micky Spilane
Longest traveller of the day 542 miles with N Callan on board.

Before anyone asks, no Callan didn't ride it all the way there!

Micky Spilane

10-08-2007, 03:43 PM

Late gamble going on now into 13/1

Micky Spilane

10-08-2007, 03:49 PM

back out to 15/1

Micky Spilane

10-08-2007, 03:56 PM

LOST :sob:

foxy

11-08-2007, 09:03 PM

i know this sint horses but does anyone know what willhills pay out of the irish lottery for 3 numbers

NO1FAN

11-08-2007, 09:10 PM

EDIT - I've looked but haven't a clue

LLCOOLSTEVE

12-08-2007, 01:06 AM

Went to lingfield tonight, 2 winners, 2 seconds, well up for the night :)

NO1FAN

12-08-2007, 03:57 PM

Golden Spectrum 14/1 in the last at Wolves

pjenns

14-08-2007, 08:59 AM

Chaps,

I may have a good touch for you here.

A mate of mine owns a horse called Danawi which is running at 2pm Brighton today.

Basically in its last 2 races it came 8th. (this is because it bled in one and put its back out in the later)

3 races ago when it was fit it came second by a short head. The winner of that race is the favorite in this one. However due to the problems with Danawi, it is now a stone lighter than the favourite today....(I hope your still with me......)

Todays race is the worst Danawi has run in and assuming it is fit, then it is nailed on for a place. At the moment it is 12 - 1.

My mate is calling me at 1.30 after he has spoken to the trainer to make sure it is fully fit again. If it is then he is lumping on......

I'll keep you updated.

macstar

14-08-2007, 09:04 AM

Originally posted by pjenns
Chaps,

I may have a good touch for you here.

A mate of mine owns a horse called Danawi which is running at 2pm Brighton today.

Basically in its last 2 races it came 8th. (this is because it bled in one and put its back out in the later)

3 races ago when it was fit it came second by a short head. The winner of that race is the favorite in this one. However due to the problems with Danawi, it is now a stone lighter than the favourite today....(I hope your still with me......)

Todays race is the worst Danawi has run in and assuming it is fit, then it is nailed on for a place. At the moment it is 12 - 1.

My mate is calling me at 1.30 after he has spoken to the trainer to make sure it is fully fit again. If it is then he is lumping on......

I'll keep you updated.

i always have a look at horses with 'Dan' or 'Mac' in the name (as that is my name), so i will cast my eye on this one:p

palace & proud

14-08-2007, 09:28 AM

Irish Greyhound Derby:

Farloe Black 66/1 into 12's

Massive Gamble

LLCOOLSTEVE

15-08-2007, 05:28 PM

Had a great day, winners at 10/1, 10/3, 13/2, 6/1, 11/8, even won £28 on roulette when I was bored! :)

Flat Noodle

15-08-2007, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by LLCOOLSTEVE
Had a great day, winners at 10/1, 10/3, 13/2, 6/1, 11/8, even won £28 on roulette when I was bored! :)
how come you stop posting your bets here any more??? When i get bored at night, i usually come to this thread tailing your tips... :(

LLCOOLSTEVE

15-08-2007, 05:36 PM

I was in the bookies!

I dont like putting up tips anymore, as I said the other day, when I put them in these threads, (either here or 'betting comps') they lose!

Ian Hart

15-08-2007, 11:31 PM

Originally posted by pjenns
Chaps,

I may have a good touch for you here.

A mate of mine owns a horse called Danawi......

I notice it came last. Was it fit?

ozeagle

16-08-2007, 02:30 AM

Originally posted by pjenns
Chaps,

I may have a good touch for you here.

A mate of mine owns a horse called Danawi which is running at 2pm Brighton today.

Basically in its last 2 races it came 8th. (this is because it bled in one and put its back out in the later)

3 races ago when it was fit it came second by a short head. The winner of that race is the favorite in this one. However due to the problems with Danawi, it is now a stone lighter than the favourite today....(I hope your still with me......)

Todays race is the worst Danawi has run in and assuming it is fit, then it is nailed on for a place. At the moment it is 12 - 1.

My mate is calling me at 1.30 after he has spoken to the trainer to make sure it is fully fit again. If it is then he is lumping on......

I'll keep you updated.

next time just tell us to lay it to the hilt.

:clown:

pjenns

16-08-2007, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by Ian Hart
I notice it came last. Was it fit?

Jesus, what a disaster....

It was as fit as a fiddle. The problem was the apprentice jockey. He was told to get him up to the front (which he did), then make sure he was on the rail on the turn home....the problem was the jockey took him to the wrong rail!!!!

My mate, who is a genuinely laid back fella had lumped on it to win and was gonna pin the jockey up since it was a glaring mistake.

I will keep you all informed for the next time it runs because its odds will get bigger now....

Ian Hart

16-08-2007, 12:25 PM

Originally posted by pjenns
its odds will get bigger now....

I think you can guarantee that ;)

Incidentally, looking at the young jockey's record, it's really pretty good:-

Vital Stats Runs 1st 2nd 3rd Win % To £1 Level Stake
Last 14 Days (UK) 5 1 1 1 20% £2.50
Current Season (UK) 21 4 2 3 19.05% £12.25

LLCOOLSTEVE

16-08-2007, 12:32 PM

My yankee will consist of,

Phae mae Blue
Colwyn Bay
Excessive
Ravarino

saul1664

20-08-2007, 10:12 PM

York selections

1.30 High Treason
2.00 Distinction
2.35 Yellowstone
3.10 Dylan Thomas
3.50 Campanologist
4.25 Legal Eagle
5.00 Hoh Hoh Hoh

Yellowstone's slightly fortunate defeat of Aqaleem sets the standard in the 2.35, and he's probably a worthy favourite, however Aiden O'Brien runs four which puts the cat amongst the pigeons.

Best bet of the day is in the 3.10. Dylan Thomas latest run was extremely impressive and he seems a much safer bet than Authorised who was easily brushed aside by Notnowcato and whose Derby form hasn't exactly been advertised that well. Notnowcato is clear second best.

Finbar

21-08-2007, 11:28 AM

York Selections?

For me

1.30 No idea
2.00 Anna Pavlov
2.35 Boscobel
3.10 Dylan Thomas / Authorised reverse forecast
3.50 Campanologist
4.25 Flawed Genius
5.00 Fire up the band to place (only as I've been backing the nag all summer!)

saul1664

21-08-2007, 03:29 PM

Aggggh. Really didn't expect Johnny Murtagh to get boxed in in two consecutive championship races. Doh.

saul1664

22-08-2007, 09:28 AM

Better be quick. Going ahhhttt.

York selections...

1.30 River Tiber
2.00 Art Advisor
2.35 Peppertree Lane
3.10 Peeping Fawn
3.50 Captain Gerrard
4.25 Moynahan
5.00 Fathom Five

An interesting day without anything really standing out (apart from Peeping Fawn of course). Swiss Franc's form in the 2.00 is top class, placed in the Coventry and July stakes, but through a line through Winker Watson doesn't actually have that much in hand of Art Advisor who is a much bigger price, there's a couple of improving sorts in here too and it's best left alone.

Peeping Fawn seems to be getting better and better and 4/7 reflects her chance, bigshock if she loses.

Captain Gerrard is worth a crack at a listed event and should go close after his 3rd in a Group 3 last time, while Moynahan ran a nice race at Goodwood and Paul Cole's horses do improve for their first run.

Finbar

22-08-2007, 12:09 PM

here are mine

1.30 Heaven Knows 7/2 NAP
2.00 Art Advisor 10/1
2.35 Lake Poet at 29/1 and Hitchcock at 19/1
3.10 Allegretto 11/4 betting without fav (not yet matched...)
3.50 Bespoke Boy 8/1
4.25 Park Royal 8/1
5.00 Morinqua 11/1

Gav The Hamster

22-08-2007, 12:46 PM

Have

Greek Well
Swiss Franc
Ogee
Peeping Fawn
Sailor At See

Lucky 31

Finbar

22-08-2007, 12:55 PM

great start then Gav!

Finbar

22-08-2007, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by Finbar
here are mine

3.10 Allegretto 11/4 betting without fav (not yet matched...)

about time, I needed a winner! still shedload down for the meeting :grrr:

Embassy No.1

22-08-2007, 03:10 PM

York 5pm - Blue Echo 10/1

Only bet of the day for me.

Ian Hart

22-08-2007, 11:23 PM

I can't remember who it was, but someone mentioned on here a couple of weeks ago that not only was a race on heavy going very unpredictable, but also form on heavy going is very unreliable when a horse subsequently runs on different going. I remember agreeing at the time, and it's certainly a factor that always worth looking out for.

There was an excellent example today in the first race at Newton Abbot. Despite this being a 14 runner keenly contested handicap, Insignia was as low as 9/4 for a period this morning. This price did rise a bit when people started laying it, but it still went off favourite, despite the facts that it had been hiked 15 lbs in the weights and also that the young jockey had never ridden a winner. The reason that so many people were keen to back it at such a low price was because in its previous two runs it had finished 1st and 2nd. But both of those performances had been on heavy going, and therefore unreliable as a form guide when running in different conditions. Good performances on heavy going do not automatically mean a horse will appreciate softish going, and its often worth laying or backing against a horse that has been supported for the wrong reasons in such circumstances.

Reps AJ

22-08-2007, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by Embassy No.1
York 5pm - Blue Echo 10/1

Only bet of the day for me.

I was at the course and had 2nd place if its any consolation :)

saul1664

23-08-2007, 10:48 AM

Originally posted by saul1664
Better be quick. Going ahhhttt.

York selections...

1.30 River Tiber
2.00 Art Advisor
2.35 Peppertree Lane
3.10 Peeping Fawn
3.50 Captain Gerrard
4.25 Moynahan
5.00 Fathom Five

An interesting day without anything really standing out (apart from Peeping Fawn of course). Swiss Franc's form in the 2.00 is top class, placed in the Coventry and July stakes, but through a line through Winker Watson doesn't actually have that much in hand of Art Advisor who is a much bigger price, there's a couple of improving sorts in here too and it's best left alone.

Peeping Fawn seems to be getting better and better and 4/7 reflects her chance, bigshock if she loses.

Captain Gerrard is worth a crack at a listed event and should go close after his 3rd in a Group 3 last time, while Moynahan ran a nice race at Goodwood and Paul Cole's horses do improve for their first run.
Three nice winners there. Lets try again today, though today is markedly harder...

1.35 Johar Jamal
2.05 You'resothrilling
2.35 Docofthebay
3.10 Hoh Mike
3.50 Racer Forever
4.25 Wannabe Posh
5.00 Ancient Culture

Gav The Hamster

23-08-2007, 11:47 AM

1.35 Ded0
2.05 Fleeting Spirit
2.35 The Illies
3.10 Hoh Mike
3.50 Jack Sullivan
4.25 Winter Sunrise
5.00 Sunley Peace

Finbar

23-08-2007, 12:36 PM

1.35 Dedo at 13/1
2.10 Visit at 13/8
2.35 Freman 9/1
3.10 Amadeus Wolfe e/w 15/1
3.50 Racer Forever 11/4
4.25 Winter Sunrise
5.00 Templestern

Gav The Hamster

23-08-2007, 01:17 PM

none right for any of us yet lol

Finbar

23-08-2007, 01:21 PM

hmm I am having a shocking York

have been emailing 4 mates who are also betting on every race and the number of winners we've had is pathetic :(

Gav The Hamster

23-08-2007, 02:25 PM

great job no one pays for our tips !

Finbar

23-08-2007, 02:28 PM

is a shocker, oh well there is still time, would be happy with just one winner, even a dead heat would do!

Finbar

23-08-2007, 03:39 PM

:sob:

Flat Noodle

23-08-2007, 03:41 PM

Finbar, i'm going to put a tenner on your lucky last tip on Templestern!

Hope your luck will change with this! ;) :p

Flat Noodle

23-08-2007, 04:11 PM

:moo:

Finbar

24-08-2007, 08:14 AM

If I had still been around I would have encouraged you not to

21 races at York and think I only had 1 winner, even that was 'betting without the fav' so actually finished 2nd to it!

NO1FAN

24-08-2007, 01:28 PM

Anyone know of a URL to watch Racing uk on the net via WMP

saul1664

24-08-2007, 10:16 PM

3.10 Goodwood

Cesare

This admirable horse's only defeat when 5th in a group 1, otherwise he has won all starts over a mile and is clearly improving, this race is bread and butter for him, he won a group 3 last time out despite meeting trouble in running, quickening impressively, expect him to be held up and come with a late rattle, this race is well within his compass. Not a great price at 11/8 but pretty nailed on.

Gooders

24-08-2007, 10:21 PM

I think he's far shorter than he should be and I give Blythe Knight a sporting chance of beating him at a good price.

ozeagle

01-09-2007, 02:48 PM

1f93

wonderful jockey, frankie.

Embassy No.1

04-09-2007, 11:37 AM

Goodwood 5:30 - Trimlestown at 11/2

Embassy No.1

04-09-2007, 12:00 PM

Also, toying with Lingfield 5:40 - Mount Hermon at 6/1.

What'd you chaps think?

Embassy No.1

04-09-2007, 10:15 PM

Originally posted by Embassy No.1
Goodwood 5:30 - Trimlestown at 11/2 http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r224/embassyno1_Philip/Smilies/thumbsdown.gif

Originally posted by Embassy No.1
Also, toying with Lingfield 5:40 - Mount Hermon at 6/1.

What'd you chaps think? :p

Embassy No.1

08-09-2007, 12:08 PM

Two today:

Haydock 3:40 - Dansili Dancer at 16/1. E/W (obviously)
Back down to a sensible h'cap. Right distance & ground for him imo.

&

Haydock 5:15 - Seeking The Buck at 9/4.
Came second last time out only cos the bird on him thought she was on a pleasure beach donkey ride. Will be ridden properly today.

foxy

08-09-2007, 07:47 PM

any fancys at fontwell tomorrow

LLCOOLSTEVE

08-09-2007, 07:55 PM

Backed Mutawajid today ew at 33's, came 4th, only first 3 got paid :rolleyes:

Embassy No.1

08-09-2007, 10:58 PM

Originally posted by Embassy No.1
Two today:

Haydock 3:40 - Dansili Dancer at 16/1. E/W (obviously)
Back down to a sensible h'cap. Right distance & ground for him imo.

&

Haydock 5:15 - Seeking The Buck at 9/4.
Came second last time out only cos the bird on him thought she was on a pleasure beach donkey ride. Will be ridden properly today. :p :p On a roll (touch wood)

E_girl

12-09-2007, 08:18 AM

Wimbledon Dogs to close

http://forums.cpfc.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=158585

saul1664

12-09-2007, 11:31 PM

3.10 DONCASTER (tomorrow)

TURBO LINN

Won it's last 7 starts, and would be a hell of a lot shorter than 3/1 if trained by a fashionable stable. Most of her wins at 1 mile 4 furlongs, but has won over 1 mile and 6 furlongs on her only try at the distance. Has shown a sparkling turn of foot in all her wins, winning some races by 8 to 10 lengths, and comes across horses that have been placed in group races that aren't as progressive as her. Fancy her to go really well. Betfair were trading at 3.1 and best price with bookies is 100/30.

Embassy No.1

13-09-2007, 08:57 AM

Sainglend in the 4:35 at Sandown.

Hoping to get 8/1 early doors.

EDIT: Oh dear. Seems to be going the wrong way. 10/1 now.

saul1664

13-09-2007, 11:50 PM

That wasn't very good. Going to try septimus and captain gerrard tomorrow I think.

saul1664

14-09-2007, 12:46 PM

2.40 Doncaster

SEPTIMUS

Won over 2M by 1 length from Balkan Knight, previously showing smart form over 1M 6F, travels very well for a stayer and quickens up well, idled in front last time so value for more than the 1 length he beat Balkan Knight last time who reopposes on 3lb better terms. The 2 furlongs extra here should pose no problem. Allegretto should be next best, Geordieland has gone right off the boil.

3.10 Doncaster

CAPTAIN GERRARD

This race focuses around whether Fleeting Spirit can reproduce his 2 and a half length beating of Captain Gerrard when they last met, it's going to be closer this time as Captain Gerrard has improved in the meantime and looks most progressive, whilst Fleeting Spirit was not disgraced when stepped up in class last time. At 4/1, Captain Gerrard is worth chancing.

dodge_bond

14-09-2007, 01:43 PM

Any tips for tongiht at wimbledon?

Embassy No.1

15-09-2007, 01:25 PM

Doncaster 2:40 - Pearly Wey at 9/1 e/w

Doncaster 3:15 - Regal Flush at 15/2 e/w

Finbar

17-09-2007, 02:41 PM

Bespoke boy in the 4.20

Only because I've been backing it all summer to no avail so not going to stop now!!

Well it worked on Stottsfold yesterday so fingers crossed

7/2 in the Racing Post, backed it at 8.6 on Betfair, suspect that's a bad sign!!

LLCOOLSTEVE

18-09-2007, 12:29 PM

will have a look at the Lingfield card this afternoon

LLCOOLSTEVE

18-09-2007, 12:40 PM

Royal Choir in the 1.50

Finbar

24-09-2007, 06:30 PM

no posts on here for almost a week :eek:

Thinking of going to Ascot on Saturday, any advice as to which stand to go for? Don't want to go posh but would like to be as close to the line as possible (may be a contradiction), would like to not have alcohol restrictions and ability to see the parade ring a plus but by no means a deal breaker.

Any advice gratefully received :p

LLCOOLSTEVE

29-09-2007, 02:44 PM

MMm saturday racing :)

Just put £5 e/w on a 66/1 shot, lets see what happens! lol

LLCOOLSTEVE

29-09-2007, 02:48 PM

unplaced! jeez!

Gooders

29-09-2007, 02:56 PM

Should have put it on Candidato Roy. Willie Haggas books Johnny Murtagh for the ride and it still goes off at 50/1. And wins of course.

Ian Hart

29-09-2007, 03:13 PM

21d1

Did you back it Gooders? :p

Gav The Hamster

29-09-2007, 03:17 PM

gonna back Darjina in the biggie at Ascot

Gooders

29-09-2007, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by Ian Hart
Did you back it Gooders? :p

I wish. Didn't even look at the cards today Ian - I rarely do at weekends.

LLCOOLSTEVE

29-09-2007, 03:20 PM

Originally posted by Gooders
Should have put it on Candidato Roy. Willie Haggas books Johnny Murtagh for the ride and it still goes off at 50/1. And wins of course.

After yesterdays racing and the rain you couldnt have backed it from that draw..... won well though.

Had a nice 7/1 winner at haydock though.

Backed Duke of Marmalade in the big race going off in 1 min

LLCOOLSTEVE

29-09-2007, 03:27 PM

bloody 3rd, Ballydoyle set it up for Ramonti and Godolphin by making The Duke go out to make the pace to the race....

LLCOOLSTEVE

29-09-2007, 03:35 PM

Northern Jem at 8's at chester

LLCOOLSTEVE

29-09-2007, 03:47 PM

Steam Cuisine is a big price in the 4.55 Ascot

LLCOOLSTEVE

29-09-2007, 04:01 PM

came 3rd at 14's

Finbar

29-09-2007, 06:05 PM

Originally posted by Finbar
no posts on here for almost a week :eek:

Thinking of going to Ascot on Saturday, any advice as to which stand to go for? Don't want to go posh but would like to be as close to the line as possible (may be a contradiction), would like to not have alcohol restrictions and ability to see the parade ring a plus but by no means a deal breaker.

Any advice gratefully received :p

Well despite the lack of response what a day! Very impressed with the new stand, had 3 winners out of 6 (left before the last race), the icing on the cake coming when my mate asked me whether it was worth backing Candidato Roy on Betfair, I replied there was no harm in doing so at 89/1 for a tenner each, liking ascot a lot!! Ok it's bragging but it's not every day I get an 89/1 winner :lux: :lux:

3.40: 4 Candidato Roy J Murtagh 50-1, 25 Shevchenko S Sanders 11-2, 18 Docofthebay L Dettori 9-1, 19 Presumptive S Drowne 33-1, 23 ran, non runners : 1,3,12,23,24,26 Tote Trifecta: #17,095.80.

Gooders

29-09-2007, 06:20 PM

Brilliant. T'was a stupid price, even on course. :p

Finbar

29-09-2007, 06:36 PM

possibly but still can't quite remember why we backed it!!

Gooders

29-09-2007, 07:59 PM

Well, in hindsight, I think the fact that it was entered up here today having run second in a class 4 at Warwick last time out and that the trainer had gone to the trouble of booking one of the best jockeys around should have alerted us all to the fact that it was certainly no forlorn hope.

Then we could have delved a bit deeper and discovered that it used to be trained by Mike De Kock and had won two Group races in South Africa, as well as in Nad Al Sheba earlier in the year.

Ian Hart

29-09-2007, 09:16 PM

Originally posted by Finbar
Ok it's bragging but it's not every day I get an 89/1 winner :lux: :lux:

You're bloody entitled to brag mate! I've never got remotely close to that.

I'm really pleased for you :p

saul1664

30-09-2007, 12:42 PM

If anyone is alive I like

2.35 ASCOT

DISTINCTION

Slowly back on the upgrade, with two fairly good placed efforts against Septimus, time not on his side, but this is his easiest task of the season.

3.45 ASCOT

ASK

Honolulu will be favourite but his form is good handicap form and he didn't do as well as expected in group company last time. Much prefer progressive Ask who gave Scorpion a 2 length beating in group company last time and is value.

saul1664

30-09-2007, 02:58 PM

Originally posted by saul1664
If anyone is alive I like

2.35 ASCOT

DISTINCTION

Slowly back on the upgrade, with two fairly good placed efforts against Septimus, time not on his side, but this is his easiest task of the season.

3.45 ASCOT

ASK

Honolulu will be favourite but his form is good handicap form and he didn't do as well as expected in group company last time. Much prefer progressive Ask who gave Scorpion a 2 length beating in group company last time and is value.

:p

LLCOOLSTEVE

01-10-2007, 05:22 PM

Mmmm

Zero Cool @ 11/4
Magnet For Money @ 5/2

Doubles, 1 bet * £25.00

Bet ID CF94821614II
Source:Internet

25.00 Returns 328.13

+

Safari Sunup @ 5/2
Magnet For Money @ 5/2

Doubles, 1 bet * £25.00

Bet ID AF46852501II
Source:Internet

25.00 Returns 306.25

Mmmmm

= :)

Gav The Hamster

01-10-2007, 07:09 PM

aftertimer ;)

LLCOOLSTEVE

03-10-2007, 09:38 PM

So the Big Race this sunday, The Arc.... whats everyones fancy? Ive gone rather large on Dylan Thomas e/w

Gooders

03-10-2007, 09:43 PM

I won't betting (I've never backed an Arc winner). I think Authorized is class and I'd love to see him do it but I predict glorious failure for him.

saul1664

04-10-2007, 10:53 AM

Going for my 4th winner in a row.

2.00 NEWMARKET

SHABIBA

Ran second to a good sort in Sams Cross at Goodwood in a similar quality race, quickening up well to lead only for greenness and a lack of a race to tell close home. Well bred and trained by Marcus Tregoning and will be expected to improve from his last race. As always in maidens, you need to be aware of dangers from unraced and improving horses, but hard to see Spinning Lucy who was beaten at 4/9 and then finishing down the field in a better quality race troubling him. He's joint top rated here and with improvement should be the best of these before going on to better things. You can get 15/8 with betfair at the moment which seems reasonable.

saul1664

04-10-2007, 01:05 PM

Winner 5/2, traded at 3.6/1 on betfair.

:p

NO1FAN

04-10-2007, 01:26 PM

I missed out on getting a bit on him as i've only just got home from work, I can't believe it went off at such a big price though

KevTheOptimist

04-10-2007, 07:37 PM

Tips for the last 3 at Kempton?

Gav The Hamster

04-10-2007, 07:38 PM

back Dusty Carpet in the last mate....never been beaten

KevTheOptimist

04-10-2007, 07:41 PM

lol

Embassy No.1

04-10-2007, 07:50 PM

Fancy Piccostar.

got Menelaus e/w

dannycpfc

04-10-2007, 08:01 PM

get on TEROBAN in the 9.20 the last one at kempton tonight tasty @ 8/1 also the top weight TROMP is worth place money @16/1

LLCOOLSTEVE

05-10-2007, 01:34 PM

Just had a nice winner in Natagora at 9/2, means I get a free bet now with B365, so have gone e/w on thought is free in the next at Newmarket at 25's

saul1664

06-10-2007, 01:01 AM

all these winners and no tips.

Anyway, here's for 5 in a row.

Newmarket 3.40 (feature race)

ECHELON

When this beat Cesare two runs ago it came as a bit of a surprise, but followed that up with a better performance to win a group 1 in Ireland beating Red Evie, Cesare has run well since and hard to see this getting beaten tomorrow. Slight blip in mid season with two mid placed runs but looks on the top of her form here. 9/4 at betfair is value.

LLCOOLSTEVE

06-10-2007, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by saul1664
all these winners and no tips.

Just dont have time to sit here and type out all the reasons to back horses, and I hate just putting up names as if pulling them out of that hat

macstar

07-10-2007, 01:02 PM

whose having a flutter on le Arc?

Im going for Soldier of Furtune 3/1 to beat Authorized.

Eaglesmad123

07-10-2007, 03:18 PM

I had 2.50 on the horse which came secound. His odds were 66/1 does anyone know how much i will win.

LLCOOLSTEVE

07-10-2007, 03:25 PM

Originally posted by LLCOOLSTEVE
So the Big Race this sunday, The Arc.... whats everyones fancy? Ive gone rather large on Dylan Thomas e/w

Played up quite a bit of my winnings from lately on it, £150 e/w at 6's

:lux: :lux:

God the 30 min stewards enquiry was nervous :moo:

Eaglesmad123

07-10-2007, 03:30 PM

So who won

LLCOOLSTEVE

07-10-2007, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by Eaglesmad123
So who won

Dylan Thomas

You wont get anything unless you did £2.50 each way

Eaglesmad123

07-10-2007, 04:14 PM

just got my winnings

saul1664

07-10-2007, 07:35 PM

Did fancy Dylan Thomas today, thought he was given no sort of race against Authorized last time, with Authorized getting first run. What happened to Authorized today though, didn't pick up at all.

LLCOOLSTEVE

07-10-2007, 07:43 PM

Originally posted by saul1664
Did fancy Dylan Thomas today, thought he was given no sort of race against Authorized last time, with Authorized getting first run. What happened to Authorized today though, didn't pick up at all.

I think the draw beat it, tracked the field pretty wide through out, poor ride from Frankie IMO

saul1664

07-10-2007, 10:14 PM

Saw the race, the pace was quick enough and he had more than enough time to pick up if he was good enough, always thought the derby form was fairly suspect.

Embassy No.1

11-10-2007, 10:58 AM

Big move for Manhattan Boy 4.55 Newbury

LLCOOLSTEVE

11-10-2007, 11:26 PM

Going to Lingfield on friday, be interesting to see Godolphin's $9.7million purchase, Jalil, make its handicap debut.

saul1664

11-10-2007, 11:40 PM

racing a bit dull at the moment. whens the next big one.

LLCOOLSTEVE

12-10-2007, 12:05 AM

Breeders cup Meeting

LLCOOLSTEVE

12-10-2007, 05:32 PM

Originally posted by LLCOOLSTEVE
Going to Lingfield on friday, be interesting to see Godolphin's $9.7million purchase, Jalil, make its handicap debut.

Jalil ran well, came 2nd, beaten in a photo.

Only had 1 winner, still managed to end the day up somehow :moo:

saul1664

12-10-2007, 10:06 PM

Two for the weekend. Oo-er...

1.10 ASCOT CAPTAIN GERRARD

He's been beaten twice when stepped up to this level, but has run into Fleeting Spirit twice who is more than useful, his listed race successes are actually quite impressive and I think he has a group 3 in him, he can perform better than he has shown. Spirit of Sharjah actually finished in front of him last time, but the ground conditions will favour Captain Gerrard and I'm confident he'll reverse the form and take all the beating. Betfair are trading at 5/2 which is reasonable.

1.40 ASCOT QUEENS BEST

This has the look of another promising Stoute/Ryan Moore combination. Very progressive, following up a Listed and Group 3 victory with a short head second at the Curragh when upped again to group 2 and now back down to group 3 here. Although she has to concede weight all round with the group penalties, she should do the business and 11/4 is more than a fair price on betfair at the moment.

saul1664

13-10-2007, 01:19 PM

Originally posted by saul1664
Two for the weekend. Oo-er...

1.10 ASCOT CAPTAIN GERRARD

He's been beaten twice when stepped up to this level, but has run into Fleeting Spirit twice who is more than useful, his listed race successes are actually quite impressive and I think he has a group 3 in him, he can perform better than he has shown. Spirit of Sharjah actually finished in front of him last time, but the ground conditions will favour Captain Gerrard and I'm confident he'll reverse the form and take all the beating. Betfair are trading at 5/2 which is reasonable.

1.40 ASCOT QUEENS BEST

This has the look of another promising Stoute/Ryan Moore combination. Very progressive, following up a Listed and Group 3 victory with a short head second at the Curragh when upped again to group 2 and now back down to group 3 here. Although she has to concede weight all round with the group penalties, she should do the business and 11/4 is more than a fair price on betfair at the moment.

:p

Gooders

13-10-2007, 01:40 PM

Err, Queen's Best got beat Saul. :confused:

saul1664

13-10-2007, 03:36 PM

Captain Gerrard won 5/2, so profit for the day, tipped 5 out of 7 winners here, plus 2nd and 3rd, plus Queens Best went close.

LLCOOLSTEVE

16-10-2007, 04:17 PM

Not much action on here lately but just had a nice 66/1 e/w shot come 3rd :)

Embassy No.1

16-10-2007, 04:39 PM

Mainly just doing Placepots at the mo so don't think it's worth putting up.

Got 4 out of 6 at Newcastle today which was pretty close. Let down by the last Two (ain't that always the way)

Got bugger all Leicester & Huntingdon though.

Read the correct Placepot for Windsor yesterday paid out £36k/£1

LLCOOLSTEVE

18-10-2007, 08:40 PM

arrrrgh

1 18/10/2007 7.50 Wolverhampton
(Win and Each Way) Vanadium
5/2 3 Places
1/5 Odds Won

2 18/10/2007 7.20 Wolverhampton
(Win and Each Way) Loyal Knight
11/10 3 Places
1/5 Odds Won

3 18/10/2007 9.20 Wolverhampton
(Win and Each Way) Kalasam
11/2 3 Places
1/4 Odds Placed

Multiples
Bet Type No of Bets Unit Stake Stake
Doubles 3 24.75 74.25

To Win 1008.56

Returns 181.92

Kalasam got beaten a nose in a photo :(:(:( gutting

Finbar

19-10-2007, 10:43 AM

ouch, unlucky LL

Right, my fancies for today over the jumps

2.20 Cheltenham - Officier de Reserve
2.55 Cheltenham - Enlightenment
3.30 Cheltenham - Cape Greko
4.05 Cheltenham - Always Waining

saul1664

19-10-2007, 11:07 AM

A week of mediocrity but 3 today...

1.00 NEWMARKET

POLMAILY

A very good second to Captain Brilliance on his debut, running green and picking up to be 2 lengths second, sure to come on from that and hasn't got much to fear here, has 17lbs in front of his nearest rival, and unless the newcomers are well above average will win here. Currently trading at 8/11 on betfair.

2.35 NEWMARKET

AUTOCUE

Emmrooz will be a warm favourite but floundered in the soft ground when stepped up in class last time and no reason to expect that she is anything special. Autocue looks like another improving horse and I do like the Stoute/Ryan Moore combination, dead heated on debut coming from off the pace showing a lot of speed, can improve here and is terriffic value at 7/2 on betfair.

3.20 REDCAR

SPINNING LUCY

Currently trading at 11/8 on betfair which seems overly generous, but this may be due to the unraced Godolphin horse Ibis (who really can't be that great if he's being entered here) which seems value. The form of the recent third to Shabiba in a much better race at Newmarket stands head and shoulders above what anything else has achieved (17lbs clear on ratings) and must take all of the beating.

saul1664

19-10-2007, 02:33 PM

Originally posted by saul1664
A week of mediocrity but 3 today...

1.00 NEWMARKET

POLMAILY

A very good second to Captain Brilliance on his debut, running green and picking up to be 2 lengths second, sure to come on from that and hasn't got much to fear here, has 17lbs in front of his nearest rival, and unless the newcomers are well above average will win here. Currently trading at 8/11 on betfair.

2.35 NEWMARKET

AUTOCUE

Emmrooz will be a warm favourite but floundered in the soft ground when stepped up in class last time and no reason to expect that she is anything special. Autocue looks like another improving horse and I do like the Stoute/Ryan Moore combination, dead heated on debut coming from off the pace showing a lot of speed, can improve here and is terriffic value at 7/2 on betfair.

3.20 REDCAR

SPINNING LUCY

Currently trading at 11/8 on betfair which seems overly generous, but this may be due to the unraced Godolphin horse Ibis (who really can't be that great if he's being entered here) which seems value. The form of the recent third to Shabiba in a much better race at Newmarket stands head and shoulders above what anything else has achieved (17lbs clear on ratings) and must take all of the beating.

Hmmmmm. First one beaten by two newcomers, hadn't backed it then it drifted in running when well placed about 4 out, so took 4/5 (later found out I got 2/1 against so assume the commentary is actually behind the race). Got Emmrooz right, but the Stoute didn't show and picked the wrong one, and Spinning Lucy won by 6 lengths. Godolphin horse sounds like a right nutter, had the monty roberts blanket on, did a back flip before the race, took 7 handlers to get it in, and then planted its heels and finished almost last. :eek:

Ian Hart

19-10-2007, 03:14 PM

Originally posted by saul1664
First one beaten by two newcomers, hadn't backed it then it drifted in running when well placed about 4 out, so took 4/5 (later found out I got 2/1 against so assume the commentary is actually behind the race).

That's correct, Saul. The commentary seems to run about 20 seconds behind the race, sometimes a bit more. Unless you constantly press "refresh" to update the prices, they will just change automatically a bit later on. If you do refresh the prices, they stay well ahead of the commentary you are receiving - quite amusingly so, because you can see by dramatic price movements what's going to happen on the commentary in about 20 seconds time! Quite commonly in a jumps race you'll see a price shoot out to 1000, which is a sure sign that it has fallen. A few seconds later, you'll hear him fall on the commentary.

If you're going to bet in running, I would strongly suggest not doing it from an internet commentary, because you will always put yourself at a disadvantage.

Finbar

19-10-2007, 03:21 PM

Originally posted by Finbar
ouch, unlucky LL

Right, my fancies for today over the jumps

2.20 Cheltenham - Officier de Reserve
2.55 Cheltenham - Enlightenment
3.30 Cheltenham - Cape Greko
4.05 Cheltenham - Always Waining

Always Waining came 2nd, think it could have got very close but for hitting the last two

My £10 4 fold didn't quite make it then :(

saul1664

19-10-2007, 11:45 PM

Originally posted by Ian Hart
That's correct, Saul. The commentary seems to run about 20 seconds behind the race, sometimes a bit more. Unless you constantly press "refresh" to update the prices, they will just change automatically a bit later on. If you do refresh the prices, they stay well ahead of the commentary you are receiving - quite amusingly so, because you can see by dramatic price movements what's going to happen on the commentary in about 20 seconds time! Quite commonly in a jumps race you'll see a price shoot out to 1000, which is a sure sign that it has fallen. A few seconds later, you'll hear him fall on the commentary.

If you're going to bet in running, I would strongly suggest not doing it from an internet commentary, because you will always put yourself at a disadvantage.

I know now!

saul1664

20-10-2007, 12:01 AM

Some great racing tomorrow, wait weeks for a group race and 7 come at once. Here goes...

These are all newmarket, apart from the last one at Cheltenham ...

2.05 CESARE

Winner of a Listed event by 4 lengths, and a very good winner of a group 2, his 3 defeats have been in championship races behind the best horses, losing by one and a quarter lengths each time. He's up to winning this, won't be inconvenienced by either the soft ground or drop to 7 furlongs, more of a worry would be getting a run as he needs to be held up. No point in analysing the opposition as it's a fairly big field with horses of equal comparable form. Having said that 5/1 is fairly good value, and he should go extremely well.

2.40 NEW APPROACH

Going the same way as stables prvious Teofilo, boasts the best form here, a sublime dismissal of Rio De La Plata at the Curragh in a group one last time out is by far better than anything else has achieved and looks pretty special. Improving sorts like McCartney may be next best. Short but backable at 6/4.

3.15 NOTNOWCATO

Has had a remarkable season, beating Arc winner Dylan Thomas, and also beating Authorized quite comfortably, before not being at his best when 4th behind him on his last run. However, this field isn't the strongest ever assembled, and Literato probably has a good chance, but will stick with NotNowCato who is fairly priced at 100/30.

5.05 DISTINCTION

Surprisingly crabbing his deat heat last time out, where he was 5 lengths clear of the third. Previously a top class stayer, not so good as we was, but this is a pretty motley lot. Likely favourite Regal and Royal has done his winning in France and debatable to say how good that form is but he does look at least like he is improving. However, will stay with Distinction whose form is more solid and should go well here, and is pretty big at 11/4.

5.15 CHELTENHAM

PATMAN DU CHARMIL

Running for the on fire Nigel Twiston Davis stable, has had two bloodless novice wins with faultless jumping, his main rival Blu Teen came second when odds on last time in a decent race but has tendency to break blood vessels which isn't promising. If he is allowed to build up a big lead, it could be all over by half way. Good enough value at 7/4.

That's all folks...

LLCOOLSTEVE

27-10-2007, 10:04 PM

George Washington euthanized tonight after breaking a leg during the Breeders Cup Classic :(

pops for prez

28-10-2007, 12:30 AM

i hate that side of the sport

palace & proud

28-10-2007, 10:16 PM

Originally posted by LLCOOLSTEVE
George Washington euthanized tonight after breaking a leg during the Breeders Cup Classic :(

Very sad news :(

CHERRY TREE BRB

29-10-2007, 07:52 AM

Backed Monet's yesterday, what a horse Kauto Star is, giving away that much weight and still rallying at the finish, Denman is probably the only horse that can stop him winning all the big prizes once again this season

palace & proud

29-10-2007, 08:04 AM

Originally posted by CHERRY TREE BRB
Backed Monet's yesterday, what a horse Kauto Star is, giving away that much weight and still rallying at the finish, Denman is probably the only horse that can stop him winning all the big prizes once again this season

:p

The only time i can see Kauto Matching Denman is the Gold Cup?

Thats gonna be Rubys biggest decision ever, who will he ride?

Keep an eye out for BIG BUCKS this season another Paul Nicholls horse.