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Gooders
10-05-2011, 06:50 AM
Dubai Glory saved my bacon in the last at Windsor - took 8/1 too. :)
cantspell
10-05-2011, 07:41 AM
Well, they've kept their great run going!
Indeed- Piano is today's lay
Gooders
10-05-2011, 08:26 AM
Surprised they've got the funds left to lay anything. :)
Kenny Ransom
10-05-2011, 11:39 AM
Anyone feeling generous with tips today?
Gooders
10-05-2011, 11:44 AM
I wouldn't take any notice of mine - I'm out of form at the moment.
I've done:
Caranbola 3.00 Beverley
Sagramor 3.40 Warwick
Aquarian Spirit 4.00 Beverley
Shamardal Phantom 4.20 Yarmouth
Plus a little dab at Lastkingofscotland 3.20 Yarmouth
NO1FAN
10-05-2011, 11:47 AM
Picked out Caranbola and Aquarian Spirit myself to
Kenny Ransom
10-05-2011, 11:48 AM
Well Caranbola is a go'er then had already picked that out too.
Gooders
10-05-2011, 01:22 PM
Of course what I should have done is put up the horses I decided not to back - the first of which, Barkston Abbey, has just won at 4/1. :rolleyes:
FWIW, the others were:
Johnny Hancocks 2.30 Beverley
Bateleur 3.10 Warwick
Six Of Clubs 5.30 Southwell
NO1FAN
10-05-2011, 03:55 PM
Indeed- Piano is today's lay
They've done it again :lux:
Gooders
10-05-2011, 04:52 PM
What's that - 5 in a row now?
******* awful day for me, topped off by picking Ellie In The Pink in the 5.10 and seeing it beaten a neck at 14/1. :sob:
cantspell
10-05-2011, 06:48 PM
I think it is about 6 in a row!
Gooders
10-05-2011, 07:49 PM
Of course the moment I actually back one of these "lays" of theirs, it'll lose.
Gooders
10-05-2011, 08:07 PM
Tomorrow's York fancies, pending a bit more study time:
1.30 Taqleed/Right Step
3.00 Markab
3.35 Antigua Sunrise
4.10 Alejandro
4.45 Sud Pacifique
GodstoneEagle
10-05-2011, 09:05 PM
Mine are slightly different but this was a first look with the couple of quid left in my account. Will see what RP say tomorrow (and oppose :D) as well as looking more in-depth.
1 Pekan Star @ 7.00
2 Regal Parade @ 6.50
3 Antigua Sunrise @ 9.00
4 Sud Pacifique @ 5.00
1f44
mart63
10-05-2011, 09:21 PM
I shall be closely watching Rain Delayed in the 3.00 at York.
JamTheEagle
10-05-2011, 09:25 PM
Barefoot Lady and my old favourite Regal Parade are my only bets, probably a double.
Jagerbomb
10-05-2011, 09:32 PM
Fancy that Sud Pacifique in the last aswell, or Hanagan on Mica Mika with better draw. Other than that at York- Iceblast in 2.00, either of Mark Johnson's in the 3.35. Prob no bet on the other races at York as fields too big/seem too difficult to pick a winner.
cantspell
10-05-2011, 09:47 PM
Barefoot Lady and my old favourite Regal Parade are my only bets, probably a double. That race looks very interesting Aidan O'Brien and Henry Cecil have a couple of nice sorts in that race too
LLCOOLSTEVE
10-05-2011, 11:24 PM
I shall be closely watching Rain Delayed in the 3.00 at York.
Yes
and Inler in that race
both 12/1
Gooders
11-05-2011, 07:47 AM
1.30 Taqleed
3.00 Regal Parade
3.35 Antigua Sunrise
4.45 Sud Pacifique
Changed my mind on Markab - the Group1 penalty will probably find him out - Regal Parade has to be the value bet.
The 4.10 looks evil - originally selected Alejandro but I think Hamza and Gatepost are possibly both nice horses - the correct thing to do in that race is just watch, I think.
GodstoneEagle
11-05-2011, 10:05 AM
Looks like you have come round to my thinking Gooders ;)
JamTheEagle
11-05-2011, 10:09 AM
Doing Antigua Sunrise as well and Fahey seems to talks very big over Alejandro so doing that too.
Gooders
11-05-2011, 10:27 AM
Looks like you have come round to my thinking Gooders ;)
Actually I'm getting the yips now. There's a real danger of catastrophic last-minute changes of mind today.
Gooders
11-05-2011, 10:29 AM
Oh and today's "lay of the day" is Onceuponatime in the 6.20 Kempton - they recommend laying against it getting placed.
Cast iron each-way bet at 10/1, I should think.
ANTEAGLE
11-05-2011, 10:54 AM
I'm definitely backing Taqleed in the 1.30. A bit of give in the ground is what it has been waiting for. Come in from 7's to 11/2 this morning.
Gooders
11-05-2011, 11:01 AM
Has the worst of the draw though - as the trainer says "he's drawn in the stable yard".
GodstoneEagle
11-05-2011, 11:16 AM
Rain Delayed @ 13.00
Alejandro @ 6.50
Rain Mac @ 5.00
Patent, 7 bets * £1.00
ANTEAGLE
11-05-2011, 11:18 AM
To quote the review on Oddschecker, Pekan Star and Taqleed are unexposed and their high draws might not be such a negative with the ground on the easy side as they often come stand side here now.
Bigtoe82
11-05-2011, 11:44 AM
Todays bets...smallish stakes.
Double (£8)
Barefoot Lady & Sud Pacifique
Trixie (£2 x 4)
Taqleed, Amazing Beauty & Regal Parade
Trixie (£2 x 4)
Regal Parade, Antigua Sunrise & Alejandro
NO1FAN
11-05-2011, 12:38 PM
Fancied Pekan Star off the light weight but went with the hype of Taqleed :clown:
JamTheEagle
11-05-2011, 12:39 PM
Fancied Pekan Star off the light weight but went with the hype of Taqleed :clown:
Would never back Taqleed. Saying that, can't say that that was an inspiring race, just a bunch of horses galloping one-paced.
ANTEAGLE
11-05-2011, 12:47 PM
Well that is annoying. Taqleed never got in the race. Can't blame the draw either with Pekan Star winning.
Gooders
11-05-2011, 12:47 PM
I am shit out of luck.
Had £5 on Right Step at 25/1 and the **** would have won if it could keep straight. :rolleyes:
JamTheEagle
11-05-2011, 12:50 PM
I am shit out of luck.
Had £5 on Right Step at 25/1 and the **** would have won if it could keep straight. :rolleyes:
Unlucky :(.
JamTheEagle
11-05-2011, 12:52 PM
Fancy these in 4-fold:
2.30 - York - Barefoot Lady
3.20 - Wincanton - Tri Nations
4.20 - Fontwell - Ostland
5.25 - Fontwell - Barney Cool
About 50/1.
GodstoneEagle
11-05-2011, 12:57 PM
Mine are slightly different but this was a first look with the couple of quid left in my account. Will see what RP say tomorrow (and oppose :D) as well as looking more in-depth.
1 Pekan Star @ 7.00
2 Regal Parade @ 6.50
3 Antigua Sunrise @ 9.00
4 Sud Pacifique @ 5.00
yay
Flat Noodle
11-05-2011, 12:57 PM
Iceblast in the next at York
Gooders
11-05-2011, 12:59 PM
Unlucky :(.
Ho hum - at least I stuck it in my Placepot.
ozeagle
11-05-2011, 01:01 PM
1f4e
Iceblast in the next at York
wtf?
noodle betting on England?
:eek:
Flat Noodle
11-05-2011, 01:02 PM
Got bored
ozeagle
11-05-2011, 01:06 PM
and duly lost.
Gooders
11-05-2011, 01:17 PM
That's the Placepot ****ed.
LLCOOLSTEVE
11-05-2011, 01:35 PM
How good is William Buick....
GodstoneEagle
11-05-2011, 01:43 PM
3 horses matched at 1.52 or lower in Musidora @York. Arizona Jewel (1.51, Barefoot lady (1.22) & Joviality (winners)
lay the field
GodstoneEagle
11-05-2011, 01:44 PM
£1.5k matched on Barefoot Lady at 1.22 In-play. Thought Hanagan was going to get it, Joviality matched at high of 15.0 in-play
JamTheEagle
11-05-2011, 02:05 PM
the **** would have won if it could keep straight. :rolleyes:
Relevant once again, **** knows what Adrian was doing at the start there - if he had stayed up the rail he would of hosed up...
LLCOOLSTEVE
11-05-2011, 02:12 PM
Dont know about that, Delegator clearly the best horse, was travelling so so well all through the race.....
GodstoneEagle
11-05-2011, 03:13 PM
4.10 was a pathetic encounter. Every horse one-paced except Gatepost who stretched his legs for the lat furlong and that was enough to win it.
Bigtoe82
11-05-2011, 03:18 PM
Pathetic day of betting. Absolutely.................................*%&@$%&^^$^£ pathetic.
Jagerbomb
11-05-2011, 03:23 PM
Pathetic day of betting. Absolutely.................................*%&@$%&^^$^£ pathetic.
No good here mate, although only betting off winnings from yesterday small stakes so not too upset. Gna give the AW @ Kempton a try!
Alan Key
11-05-2011, 03:43 PM
Gone for Rain Mac in the last at York.
Dire need of some goldmine ideas fellas. My gambling pot looks bleak. =(
GodstoneEagle
11-05-2011, 03:48 PM
Mine are slightly different but this was a first look with the couple of quid left in my account. Will see what RP say tomorrow (and oppose :D) as well as looking more in-depth.
1 Pekan Star @ 7.00
2 Regal Parade @ 6.50
3 Antigua Sunrise @ 9.00
4 Sud Pacifique @ 5.00
yay.
two nice priced winners in there :)
Alan Key
11-05-2011, 03:49 PM
Gone for Rain Mac in the last at York.
Dire need of some goldmine ideas fellas. My gambling pot looks bleak. =(
3rd. Could have won on another day. Worth keeping an eye on.
Jagerbomb
11-05-2011, 04:08 PM
Gone for Rain Mac in the last at York.
Dire need of some goldmine ideas fellas. My gambling pot looks bleak. =(
Backed Mika Mica in that!
Alan Key
11-05-2011, 04:15 PM
Unlucky fella. Thought he had it.
Gooders
11-05-2011, 04:36 PM
4.10 was a pathetic encounter. Every horse one-paced except Gatepost who stretched his legs for the lat furlong and that was enough to win it.
I think Gatepost might turn out to be quite good.
Got a return thanks to triple odds on Sud Pacifique so I decided to play it up on some donkeys at Kempton tonight in a forlorn bid to change my fortunes:
6.20 Katmai River
7.20 Rosa Midnight
8.50 Point North
9.20 Dvinsky
Jagerbomb
11-05-2011, 04:49 PM
6.20 Onceuponatime
7.20 Warrant
7.20 Gower Rules
8.50 Tevez
Doubles
8.50 Resusitator
Single
GodstoneEagle
11-05-2011, 07:59 PM
I think Gatepost might turn out to be quite good.
Got a return thanks to triple odds on Sud Pacifique so I decided to play it up on some donkeys at Kempton tonight in a forlorn bid to change my fortunes:
6.20 Katmai River
7.20 Rosa Midnight
8.50 Point North
9.20 Dvinsky
is this the Jennings offer? I might go with them if they offer it online
Gooders
12-05-2011, 08:26 AM
is this the Jennings offer? I might go with them if they offer it online
Yeah. Quite a few of the bookies do triple odds for one winner in "Lucky" bets. It's the only thing that is enabling me to draw at the moment - like last night, my only winner at Kempton was Point North at 2/1 but I took 10/3 and I get triple that, so a return of 10/1.
Today I fancy:
York
2.00 Midday
3.00 St Moritz/Justonefortheroad/Pintura (haven't decided yet!)
3.35 Night Carnation
Can't decide between the promise of World Domination or the form in the book of Seville so I'll watch the 2.30 rather than betting on it, I think
Salisbury
3.45 Native Picture
4.55 George Baker
Newmarket
8.30 Onyx Of Arabia
Gooders
12-05-2011, 10:35 AM
In my ever- present search for value, I've gone off backing the short-priced ones (especially as they are not gimme's, by any means).
And one of mine is a non-runner as well.
So I settled on:
3.00 York - Justonefortheroad
3.45 Salisbury - Native Picture
4.45 York - Warne's Way
4.55 Salisbury - George Baker
1f82
GodstoneEagle
12-05-2011, 11:09 AM
Yeah. Quite a few of the bookies do triple odds for one winner in "Lucky" bets. It's the only thing that is enabling me to draw at the moment - like last night, my only winner at Kempton was Point North at 2/1 but I took 10/3 and I get triple that, so a return of 10/1.
Today I fancy:
York
2.00 Midday
3.00 St Moritz/Justonefortheroad/Pintura (haven't decided yet!)
3.35 Night Carnation
Can't decide between the promise of World Domination or the form in the book of Seville so I'll watch the 2.30 rather than betting on it, I think
Salisbury
3.45 Native Picture
4.55 George Baker
Newmarket
8.30 Onyx Of Arabiawhich other bookies?
Gooders
12-05-2011, 11:30 AM
Paddy Power for sure.
Coral's have gone back to double the odds for one winner and I think William Hill and Ladbrokes may have done too.
It's why I stick with Jennings.
JamTheEagle
12-05-2011, 11:38 AM
My selections:
13:30 - Courageous @ 14/1 - Hoping this can get in front and stay on with the good draw, a nice smash and grab to start the day off.
14:00 - Midday, interested to see how Sajjhaa runs though.
14:30 - Really like the top three here so might just leave it like Gooders, I'd go for Seville though if pushed as it has the only form. Carlton House’s form has come in two races where there has been cut in the ground and it's good today so he won't get that. As for World Domination, no one-raced horse has won this race in 30 years so you are relying on it's prospects - if either of them win they will show they have class to boot.
15:00 - St Moritz @ 8/1 and Light From Mars @ 10/1 are my selections as I can't choose between the two. St Moritz has the better draw but I really like Light From Mars despite its bad draw. As for value Mass Rally @ 25/1 could easily run a big race with it's good draw, worth another e/w punt.
I lose interest from here onwards but my other selections are:
15:35 - Night Carnation
16:10 - Giorgios Dragon, keen to see how this starts off.
16:45 - Simonside, won over course and distance is enough for me @ 14/1.
Gooders
12-05-2011, 11:46 AM
15:00 - St Moritz @ 8/1 and Light From Mars @ 10/1 are my selections as I can't choose between the two. St Moritz has the better draw but I really like Light From Mars despite its bad draw. As for value Mass Rally @ 25/1 could easily run a big race with it's good draw, worth another e/w punt.
Really hard to analyse, this race.
I was originally going to go with St Moritz because on a line through Eton Forever he should beat Justonefortheroad.
On the other hand, on a line through Balcarce Nov the Fahey horse looks like it would come out on top.
Given that Justonefortheroad raced on the "wrong" side of the course when beaten by Eton Forever, I plumped for him in the end. He has the beating of Pintura on that bit of form as well.
JamTheEagle
12-05-2011, 11:49 AM
Really hard to analyse, this race.
I was originally going to go with St Moritz because on a line through Eton Forever he should beat Justonefortheroad.
On the other hand, on a line through Balcarce Nov the Fahey horse looks like it would come out on top.
Given that Justonefortheroad raced on the "wrong" side of the course when beaten by Eton Forever, I plumped for him in the end. He has the beating of Pintura on that bit of form as well.
Can't argue with Fahey's runners at the moment, thanks for confusing me more!
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12-05-2011, 11:59 AM
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Gooders
12-05-2011, 12:39 PM
I looked quite hard at the 1.30 before deciding that it was way too open but the horse I considered doing the most was Ancient Cross. Bugger.
Gooders
12-05-2011, 01:03 PM
Midday did that nicely.
Finbar
12-05-2011, 01:07 PM
Yep, had it at 6/4 and doubled up with World Domination :)
Gooders
12-05-2011, 01:10 PM
Good old Henry. Giving nothing away about World Domination.
I toyed with the idea of a treble with Midday, Seville and Night Carnation - hope I don't regret not doing it.
JamTheEagle
12-05-2011, 01:19 PM
Good old Henry. Giving nothing away about World Domination.
I toyed with the idea of a treble with Midday, Seville and Night Carnation - hope I don't regret not doing it.
That's the only bet I have on them, starting to wish I had put more on it now...
Gooders
12-05-2011, 01:22 PM
Hope it comes in for you Jam - if Seville wins I'd be feeling quite confident after the way Ahtoug won after Night Carnation beat it.
Gooders
12-05-2011, 01:32 PM
Watch this one carefully guys - could be important!
JamTheEagle
12-05-2011, 01:36 PM
Should have gone with what I wanted to win and not what I thought would.
Gooders
12-05-2011, 01:38 PM
Charismatic chap, that Moore fella. :)
Has the Queen got a potential Derby winner?
Jagerbomb
12-05-2011, 01:39 PM
Ladbrokes really slow to get bets on just after the off on their website. Know I should decide quicker but still. Missed out on Carlton House as a result.
1f86
Gooders
12-05-2011, 01:39 PM
Should have gone with what I wanted to win and not what I thought would.
Muddling race - not sure we learned that much.
ozeagle
12-05-2011, 01:54 PM
Looked good to me. Clearly the best animal in that field of cats.
ozeagle
12-05-2011, 01:56 PM
Had to laugh at the previous hurdle at Perth.
1.40 fav travelled sweetly until the 2nd last, pecked at it, then ran through the wing at the last.
Priceless.
Gooders
12-05-2011, 02:06 PM
**** it.
Justonefortheroad got no sort of a run at all. Fast finishing 6th. And of course it was my alternate selection that won it. :(
**** it.
Still, well done Jam.
Jagerbomb
12-05-2011, 02:07 PM
**** it.
Justonefortheroad got no sort of a run at all. Fast finishing 6th. And of course it was my alternate selection that won it. :(
**** it.
Still, well done Jam.
Exactly the same!!!!!!!!
JamTheEagle
12-05-2011, 02:09 PM
**** it.
Justonefortheroad got no sort of a run at all. Fast finishing 6th. And of course it was my alternate selection that won it. :(
**** it.
Still, well done Jam.
Fantastic ride there from Adrian, makes up for his shocker yesterday.
I don't doubt if Justonefortheroad had the same draw it would have been right there at the end, if not won the thing at a canter.
Beckenham Boy
12-05-2011, 02:10 PM
Queen's racing adviser John Warren says HM "gave a good yell" as Carlton House went through gap between horses to win Dante St
Gooders
12-05-2011, 02:10 PM
Exactly the same!!!!!!!!
I know they've all been coming down the stands side but I really don't understand what goes through a jockey's mind when he comes across and sits there behind a wall of slowing horses.
There's no way he was going to get a split early enough - should have stayed up the centre to get a clear run. I think he would have won, judging by the way he picked up once he got in the clear.
Beckenham Boy
12-05-2011, 02:12 PM
They get a good pull along racing behind a pack of horses though, maybe he felt he needed the help
Gooders
12-05-2011, 02:14 PM
They get a good pull along racing behind a pack of horses though, maybe he felt he needed the help
Not in this case, I don't think - I saw Hanagan snatch him up at least 3 furlongs from the finish because he just had nowhere to go.
JamTheEagle
12-05-2011, 02:16 PM
Queen's racing adviser John Warren says HM "gave a good yell" as Carlton House went through gap between horses to win Dante St
:p Fair play to her, hope she buys into a few more horses like that one - would be great for the sport.
Jagerbomb
12-05-2011, 02:18 PM
I was slightly put off by the wide draw mark but amount of races I've seen jockeys manage to pull the horses across to the opposite side from their draw in the run in to try and create a run and get high up in the running means I don't get too put off. Ironically I thought St Moritz would run well given it was drawn 3rd so what do I know...
Gooders
12-05-2011, 02:23 PM
I understand how the draw affects things at places like Chester but at a course like York there's surely plenty of time for the jockey to make sure he gets a good position? I like Hanagan, but he rode an ill-judged race there.
Oh well, never mind. Onwards and downwards!
Beckenham Boy
12-05-2011, 02:31 PM
Good question:
@HonestFrank Francis Keogh
If horse owned by the Queen wins the Derby, does she present trophy to herself? #carltonhouse #epsom
Gooders
12-05-2011, 02:44 PM
Night Carnation wins, as expected.
LLCOOLSTEVE
12-05-2011, 03:51 PM
Charismatic chap, that Moore fella. :)
Has the Queen got a potential Derby winner?
Aint he just :)
Brilliant at what he does though!
And yes I think she does...
Gooders
12-05-2011, 04:06 PM
One poxy winner again - George Baker - and I left the 5/2 at lunchtime thinking it would get bigger - won at 11/8. :rolleyes:
GodstoneEagle
12-05-2011, 04:09 PM
Two £5 bets today. One came in.
Gooders
12-05-2011, 04:23 PM
Just watched a re-run of the 3.00.
I've perhaps been setting too much store by the post race write-ups on the Sporting Life web-site. Of Justonefortheroad, it says "towards rear, ridden 2f out, kept on final furlong, never nearer".
Doesn't mention the fact that it was snatched up 4f out, or that it was repeatedly denied a run until only just over 1 furlong out, when it started sluicing through the field - finishing only about 2 lengths down at the line.
Will definitely look out for it next time it runs.
Gooders
12-05-2011, 04:24 PM
Two £5 bets today. One came in.
Good one fella. :p
Beckenham Boy
12-05-2011, 04:44 PM
Carlton House was a gift from Sheikh Mohammed to the Queen
Now that is the sort of present I would like
LLCOOLSTEVE
12-05-2011, 05:02 PM
1fef
Sheikh Mo will be pissed off if it wins the Derby though
JamTheEagle
12-05-2011, 05:41 PM
Tomorrow in the 14:10 at Newbury a horse called Stella Point is running. It's currently 6/1 which is great value for a horse that according to Mick Channon is a much harder worker than it's stablemate Zain Al Boldan who destroyed the Lingfield Oaks Trial. Holds big entries for Epsom and Ascot. Get on it now.
Alan Key
12-05-2011, 05:46 PM
I've put all my last pennies (£8.94) on Lyric Street at 1925. If that does me legs then i'm not gambling for the rest of the month to punish meself.
pauldrulez
12-05-2011, 05:52 PM
Stuck a couple of quid each way on Cloud Illusions in the 6.50 at Newmarket. Wish the race would get a move on though.
Bigtoe82
12-05-2011, 05:53 PM
Tomorrow in the 14:10 at Newbury a horse called Stella Point is running. It's currently 6/1 which is great value for a horse that according to Mick Channon is a much harder worker than it's stablemate Zain Al Boldan who destroyed the Lingfield Oaks Trial. Holds big entries for Epsom and Ascot. Get on it now.
In Jam we trust.
pauldrulez
12-05-2011, 05:56 PM
Stuck a couple of quid each way on Cloud Illusions in the 6.50 at Newmarket. Wish the race would get a move on though.
Winning :lux:
LLCOOLSTEVE
12-05-2011, 05:59 PM
Should win Alan
JamTheEagle
12-05-2011, 06:08 PM
Gooders are you doing Horseradish again? Glad it's back at 6f - just hoping Hayley can do a bit better on this than some of her other rides of late.
pauldrulez
12-05-2011, 06:16 PM
Doubling Lyric Street with Inpursuitoffreedom in the 8.30.
Fallon rode the last race to perfection.
pauldrulez
12-05-2011, 06:17 PM
Tomorrow in the 14:10 at Newbury a horse called Stella Point is running. It's currently 6/1 which is great value for a horse that according to Mick Channon is a much harder worker than it's stablemate Zain Al Boldan who destroyed the Lingfield Oaks Trial. Holds big entries for Epsom and Ascot. Get on it now.
Stuck a few quid each way on it, cheers mate.
pauldrulez
12-05-2011, 06:32 PM
Doubling Lyric Street with Inpursuitoffreedom in the 8.30.
Fallon rode the last race to perfection.
Fallon made this one more difficult but 2 from 2 for me.
Inpursuitoffreedom can make it a great night for me :p
Cake and Eat It
12-05-2011, 06:32 PM
Had a tenner on lyric Street and a fiver on Wild Coco to place, chuffed
Gooders
12-05-2011, 06:32 PM
Tomorrow in the 14:10 at Newbury a horse called Stella Point is running. It's currently 6/1 which is great value for a horse that according to Mick Channon is a much harder worker than it's stablemate Zain Al Boldan who destroyed the Lingfield Oaks Trial. Holds big entries for Epsom and Ascot. Get on it now.
That looks a tough race. And I saw this on the Sporting Life website preview...
"Stella Point made a promising debut in the first division of a maiden over C&D last month, but the second division was won in a faster time by DANCING RAIN and she gets a tentative vote in race that should provide some good pointers for the future."
Good luck with it though. :p
Gooders
12-05-2011, 06:40 PM
Gooders are you doing Horseradish again? Glad it's back at 6f - just hoping Hayley can do a bit better on this than some of her other rides of late.
Not sure Jam.
I probably will, but I've got a feeling it's time for Docofthebay to pop up again. And I think Edinburgh Knight might go well off his very low weight.
pauldrulez
12-05-2011, 06:44 PM
Think I asked this before.
Is there anywhere where you can make a list of horses that you back and then get alerts when they are running?
Would be even better if there is an iPhone app for it.
GodstoneEagle
12-05-2011, 06:45 PM
If not then just develop it mate. You could be a miwwionaire.
Alan Key
12-05-2011, 06:49 PM
I've put all my last pennies (£8.94) on Lyric Street at 1925. If that does me legs then i'm not gambling for the rest of the month to punish meself.
YAY :lux: :lux: :lux: :lux: :lux:
Gooders
12-05-2011, 06:56 PM
Think I asked this before.
Is there anywhere where you can make a list of horses that you back and then get alerts when they are running?
Would be even better if there is an iPhone app for it.
There's some kind of "nag me" feature on the Sporting Life site. I've not used it - I think you have to register and/or pay.
Gooders
12-05-2011, 06:57 PM
YAY :lux: :lux: :lux: :lux: :lux:
£8 odd on an 8/13 shot Alan - bugger me you must be skint! ;)
Gooders
12-05-2011, 07:35 PM
Fancy a couple of Hannon's at Newbury tomorrow:
3.10 Census
4.20 Sweet Cecily
Picks are tricky again at York. I'm currently looking at:
2.00 Kansai Spirit/Mataaleb
2.30 Askar Tau/Native Ruler
3.35 Manoori/Jamaican Bolt/Mr Optimistic
4.10 Docofthebay/Hoof It/Edinburgh Knight/Horseradish
4.45 Ittirad
Alan Key
12-05-2011, 07:41 PM
£8 odd on an 8/13 shot Alan - bugger me you must be skint! ;)
Absolutely penniless. My first win since last Friday so I rate this up there with the best of them. Whacked a fiver on Jam's horse to place and now have a tenner to play with. I feel good baby.
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pauldrulez
12-05-2011, 07:43 PM
If not then just develop it mate. You could be a miwwionaire.
I'm good with computers, but i'm also bloody useless with creating anything other than a bloody good barbecue. :D
Cheers for the site, Gooders will check it out.
NO1FAN
12-05-2011, 07:48 PM
Think I asked this before.
Is there anywhere where you can make a list of horses that you back and then get alerts when they are running?
Would be even better if there is an iPhone app for it.
The ladbrokes site used to offer a nag me feature dont know if it still does though
cantspell
12-05-2011, 08:10 PM
I think attheraces offers a nag service
I fancy Hoofit tmrw
Gooders
12-05-2011, 08:24 PM
Absolutely penniless. My first win since last Friday so I rate this up there with the best of them. Whacked a fiver on Jam's horse to place and now have a tenner to play with. I feel good baby.
Good man.
I'm on a really poor run myself but luckily I've been playing with Jennings money anyway. :p
JamTheEagle
12-05-2011, 10:06 PM
That looks a tough race. And I saw this on the Sporting Life website preview...
"Stella Point made a promising debut in the first division of a maiden over C&D last month, but the second division was won in a faster time by DANCING RAIN and she gets a tentative vote in race that should provide some good pointers for the future."
Good luck with it though. :p
If Flambeau taught me one thing it's not to put all my faith in race times anymore :(.
Gooders
13-05-2011, 09:37 AM
Times are only one factor, of course. Although Flambeau did beat the horse we said it would beat - it's just that another came along that was better than both of them.
Anyway, today...
I still like Sweet Cecily dropping back to 6f and 9/1 is a decent price.
Really like Native Ruler at 4/1 in the Yorkshire Cup.
I've ruled out Mr Optimistic in the 3.35 as he can't possibly beat Manoori unless the latter needs the race - think Jamaican Bolt might be the one though, at 7/1.
Possibilities for my 4th selection are Census in the 3.20 at Newbury but 5/2 is not much of a price: Mataaleb in the 2.00 at York at 16/1 (I think Kansai Spirit needs further): Ittirad at 10/3 in the 4.45 although anything could be an improver in that race: or something from the 4.10 which will probably turn out to be either Horseradish or Docofthebay.
Good luck guys. :p
JamTheEagle
13-05-2011, 11:03 AM
Can't really argue with Native Ruler - good price too considering. Electrolyser could go well though.
Can get some good treble upwards prices on Miss Work Of Art, Native Ruler and Theyskens' Theory, about 25/1.
I like Royal Swain and will probably be doing Horseradish and Docofthebay again no doubt. And First Battalion in the last.
NO1FAN
13-05-2011, 11:11 AM
Trixie for today
14.00 York Hanoverian Baron 10/1
14.30 York Askar Tau 11/2
16.10 York Hoof It 7/1
Gooders
13-05-2011, 11:52 AM
The bounce factor is the danger for Native Ruler - only ran 13 days ago.
Bloke who apparently owns a share in Askar Tau tried to put £1000 each-way on it for the Ascot Gold Cup in Jennings this morning at 20/1 but they wouldn't take it. :confused:
I've still got the yips and I've ended up doing two Lucky15's:
Native Ruler 2.30 York
Jamaican Bolt 3.35 York
Docofthebay 4.10 York
Sweet Cecily 4.20 Newbury
Kansai Spirit 2.00 York
Askar Tau 2.30 York
Mandoori 3.35 York
Edinburgh Knight 4.10 York
Jagerbomb
13-05-2011, 12:17 PM
Kansai Spirit 2.00 York
Mr Optimistic 3.35 York
First Batallion 4.45 York
£1 Win Patent.
NO1FAN
13-05-2011, 12:50 PM
What a price Miss Work of Art :eek:
NO1FAN
13-05-2011, 01:09 PM
Fahey pillaging again
Gooders
13-05-2011, 01:48 PM
I expect Jennings are wishing they had taken that guy's two grand now.
JamTheEagle
13-05-2011, 03:16 PM
God forbid Docofthebay gets a ******* clear run in a race for once! Maybe at Ascot!
Gooders
13-05-2011, 03:34 PM
Another rotten day for me.
Of course what we should all do is give our brains a rest and just look up the Racing Post's "lay of the day" each day - today's masterful selection was Elzaam, which has just won the 4.20 at Newbury by 6 lengths at 10/3. :)
Beckenham Boy
13-05-2011, 03:35 PM
Not sure if people remember the greyhound Jazz Hurricane I tipped for the Essex Vase a couple of years ago that a few of us had success on?
Well her son Jazz Apollo is running in the heats for the Greyhound Derby on Saturday. It runs in Heat 1 at Wimbledon at 22.00.
The owners fancy him to do quite well but unfortunately it has landed a pretty tough heat 1.
Seems best price for the heat is 15/2 on Stan James where he is only 5th fancy out of 6. Not sure if it is top 2 or 3 that go through.
He is best price 150/1 to win the whole thing at BetFred, VC and SJ.
Only seems to be Betfair running odds to reach the final but he is listed at 31/1 on that.
Just thought I would share it with you. I'm on him e/w for Heat 1 and e/w overall, both small.
Gooders
13-05-2011, 03:44 PM
If I don't get anything from this lot I may take a rest for a week or two:
Tonight:
Zafranagar 4.55 Newbury
Solemn 5.10 Newmarket
Cracking Lass 6.55 Hamilton
King Of Eden 8.20 Newcastle
Tomorrow:
Nelson's Bounty 1.45 Newmarket
Polly's Mark 2.00 Newbury
Cosmic Sun 2.50 Newmarket
Stratton Banker 5.00 Thirsk
And a French Guineas double on Wootton Bassett and Rimth.
1f43
evvo111
13-05-2011, 04:15 PM
I have never put a suggestion for a bet on the site (and probably won't again when this loses) but a friend of mine, who spends hours studying form, has said there is a horse running in the 6.00 at Aintree which may stand a fair chance.
It's called Victor Daly. Apparently it won the race last year after not racing from the previous July. This race last year was the first time it ran in 2010. The year before it won it's first race in 2009 (March). In 2008 it won it's 2 races in April and May. The Sporting Life has said that it has not had a recent run but this seems to have been true for the last 2 years.
Anyhow this is what he emailed to me so just passing it on.
Gooders
13-05-2011, 04:16 PM
Yay, a winner! Solemn guarantees me at least my money back on this evening's bet. About time.
evvo111
13-05-2011, 05:08 PM
I shall send him a very strongly worded email...with lots of f's in it :veryangry
Gooders
13-05-2011, 06:07 PM
C'est la vie evvo.
Cracking Lass finished 2nd, so that's my chance of a decent return gone tonight.
Jagerbomb
13-05-2011, 07:28 PM
Decided against backing the Hanagan horse in the 8.20 just gone, even though been looking at it in the market and when it got pushed out from 9s to 14s thought that was huge value. Have lost a bit today and yesterday so thought against depositing more cash. Duly won.
One of the reasons why I hate gambling. If you fancy something you gotta get on it and when you don't they come in. Proper pissed off.
JamTheEagle
13-05-2011, 07:28 PM
Sorry for the shit tip on Stella Point, it just ran along one-paced and was very disappointing.
I took Bawaard at 18/1 this morning as I thought it was odd that Hanagan was going up there for just two rides, it just won easily. Think all my Christmases have come at once, couldn't believe the price for a horse that is the definition of consistent on both AW and turf.
Definitely have a cheeky bet on Red Roar in the last race there now :o.
JamTheEagle
13-05-2011, 07:29 PM
Just seen the above post :D.
Jagerbomb
13-05-2011, 07:33 PM
Just seen the above post :D.
To add insult to injury I backed it in a double but the first horse in the 7.20 blew out.
Alan Key
13-05-2011, 08:14 PM
BREAKING NEWS
I got a profit today!!
After losing a fiver on Stella Point (thanks Jam) it all looked a bit hairy til I picked pitiful stakes on Dubai Dynamo and Foreign Rhythm to place at 2.7 and 3.3 respectively. DD kindly finished 2nd and FR won so I made a whopping £2.04 profit over the day. Sad as it sounds I'm actually pretty chuffed.
On another note though a mate whose been taking tips off me all week is now up over £400 thanks to my selections. Ones that I couldn't put on because I was at work and didn't get a chance (hence why i've only been doing eve races). So he duly phoned me today to gloat about Hoof It and Horseradish after I told him to back em. FML.
He did say he'd buy me a few though.
cantspell
13-05-2011, 08:27 PM
I think attheraces offers a nag service
I fancy Hoofit tmrw
Nice Win also had Red Cadeau which won at 6/1 long way to go for the trainer for that win
Good day
JamTheEagle
14-05-2011, 09:42 AM
C4's Emma Spencer to John Gosden: "He's been gelded over the winter, has it made a man out of him?"
JG: "It depends how you like your men."
:D
Gooders
14-05-2011, 10:48 AM
:)
LLCOOLSTEVE
14-05-2011, 01:28 PM
One at a biggish price, Secret Witness 20/1 2.35
LLCOOLSTEVE
14-05-2011, 01:41 PM
One at a biggish price, Secret Witness 20/1 2.35
3rd, and an unlucky loser, all sorts of traffic problems
LLCOOLSTEVE
14-05-2011, 01:47 PM
Another biggish price, Herestatus in the 2.50 at 14's
Cake and Eat It
14-05-2011, 02:38 PM
I have laid Canford Cliffs.
Did that when So You Think was going to run... am now in squeaky bum time.
Cake and Eat It
14-05-2011, 02:42 PM
Also have smallish bet at decent odds for Twice Over
Cake and Eat It
14-05-2011, 02:47 PM
BALLS
JamTheEagle
14-05-2011, 02:55 PM
I like Oldjoesaid @ 13/2 in the next at Thirsk.
cantspell
14-05-2011, 03:21 PM
I like Oldjoesaid @ 13/2 in the next at Thirsk.
fancy lui rei in that
LLCOOLSTEVE
14-05-2011, 03:24 PM
Singeur for me in that race, ew
JamTheEagle
14-05-2011, 03:59 PM
Singeur for me in that race, ew
Nice. Diman Waters in the next.
JamTheEagle
14-05-2011, 04:02 PM
Pff. Stopping for the day now while I'm up.
LLCOOLSTEVE
14-05-2011, 04:03 PM
Nice. Diman Waters in the next.
Ya 14/1 :)
20bd
JamTheEagle
14-05-2011, 04:10 PM
Thoughts on Wootton tomorrow?
It's clearly the best horse in the race, god-awful draw though and I'm pretty sure the French classics end up in carnage so it's not surprising no one is lumping on. Might even start bigger tomorrow.
Gooders
14-05-2011, 04:24 PM
Love Wootton but rather than lump on I've done a double with Rimth in the 1000.
JamTheEagle
14-05-2011, 04:34 PM
Will probably not lump on it either, might do a treble with that, Kay Gee Be and Spiders Of Spring/Jade at Ripon.
Might do Rimth separately.
Gooders
14-05-2011, 04:44 PM
Either way it's my last bet for a couple of weeks - been rubbish recently so I think I'll just watch for a while.
cantspell
14-05-2011, 05:58 PM
dont like wooton's draw.
JamTheEagle
15-05-2011, 01:53 PM
:eek: My god that was a close race, Inxile wins the first leg of my double JUST - come on Wootton!
pauldrulez
15-05-2011, 02:13 PM
Wootton is most likely my last bet until Oaks Day at Epsom.
Beckenham Boy
15-05-2011, 06:25 PM
Not sure if people remember the greyhound Jazz Hurricane I tipped for the Essex Vase a couple of years ago that a few of us had success on?
Well her son Jazz Apollo is running in the heats for the Greyhound Derby on Saturday. It runs in Heat 1 at Wimbledon at 22.00.
The owners fancy him to do quite well but unfortunately it has landed a pretty tough heat 1.
Seems best price for the heat is 15/2 on Stan James where he is only 5th fancy out of 6. Not sure if it is top 2 or 3 that go through.
He is best price 150/1 to win the whole thing at BetFred, VC and SJ.
Only seems to be Betfair running odds to reach the final but he is listed at 31/1 on that.
Just thought I would share it with you. I'm on him e/w for Heat 1 and e/w overall, both small.
Not sure if anybody followed me on this but Jazz won Heat 1 at SP 4/1 - was on him at 15/2 - reckon his odds will have dropped after that performance!
pauldrulez
15-05-2011, 06:30 PM
Bollocks. On it e/w 1st 6 1/4 odds with bet365 at 66/1 now
What was that other greyhound that done well? Boolavogue wasn't it?
Beckenham Boy
15-05-2011, 07:12 PM
Bollocks. On it e/w 1st 6 1/4 odds with bet365 at 66/1 now
What was that other greyhound that done well? Boolavogue wasn't it?
Yep same owner - it was Boolavogue in the Essex vase, Jazz Hurricane was a great dog too
Beckenham Boy
16-05-2011, 09:31 AM
This is the synopsis of Jazz Hurricane which not many of you will know about. She was owned by the same people who own Boolavogue who many of you have won on before. Jazz Hurricane was from before Boola's time so I have not tipped her on here before. Jazz Apollo is the best of her pups
JAZZ HURRICANE
(Jazzy)
Jazzy as we know her, was one formidable bitch on the track,winner of 35 opens including Circuit Final and Brighton Belle,Finalist in 2006 and 2007 English Oaks as well as 2006 Brighton Belle and 2007 Olympic Finalist.This bitch has the makings of a great brood and we are all very excited as to how her pups turn out.
Below is a small selection of Top Class racers that hails from this Dam Line.
Droopys Scholes
Droopys Cahill
Bell Devotion
Droopys Candice
Karma Knight
Horseshoe Ping
Kenny Ransom
16-05-2011, 10:38 AM
Have decided to waste €6.00 on a (lucky) 30 !
2.20 Newton Abbot ABNAKI
2.40 Wolverhampton FLYING APPLAUSE
3.00 Bath WOODEN KING
3.20 Newton Abbot RAMSES DE MARCIGNY
But am open to suggestions.
LLCOOLSTEVE
17-05-2011, 12:58 PM
Loose quality is interesting at 14/1 in the first at Nottingham
Beckenham Boy
17-05-2011, 02:14 PM
Good news!
@HonestFrank Francis Keogh
More than 5 weeks after Aintree fall left him critically injured, jockey Peter Toole now able to talk (via @racing_post)
Finbar
18-05-2011, 12:03 AM
That is good news, the National seems like a lifetime ago poor bloke
JamTheEagle
18-05-2011, 03:01 PM
West Leake in the last at Lingfield @ 5/1.
Bigtoe82
18-05-2011, 04:23 PM
West Leake in the last at Lingfield @ 5/1.
I can't understand that, what happened!?
JamTheEagle
18-05-2011, 04:25 PM
I can't understand that, what happened!?
...Woeful - have a good day, put one up and it comes dead last. Nice :rolleyes:
Beckenham Boy
19-05-2011, 08:58 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-13451397
Glasgow man scoops £350,000 from £1 bet
A man who won more than £350,000 after placing a 50p each-way bet has been described by bookie William Hill as their "luckiest ever punter."
The single father from Glasgow, who wishes to remain anonymous, hit the jackpot with a seven-horse accumulator.
The man, who has not worked for five years after heart surgery, said he was shocked and said his brain was "a wreck".
He intends to buy his own home and visit his sisters abroad.
He said: "I'm shocked. I regularly place these little bets and everyone tells me I'm mad.
"I've hit the bar a few times but this is incredible.
"My brain was a wreck and I couldn't understand the balance on my account. I first thought it would pay about £21,000 and had to get my son to come and translate that the numbers meant I'd actually won £353,000."
The lucky winner placed his 50p each-way accumulator on seven horses running at Brighton, Nottingham, Towcester and Kempton.
A spokesman for William Hill said: "He's our luckiest ever punter."
3990
GodstoneEagle
19-05-2011, 12:38 PM
Haydock
LLCOOLSTEVE
19-05-2011, 12:43 PM
Law to himself will win the first at haydock
Beckenham Boy
19-05-2011, 12:50 PM
Jazz Apollo runs in the 2nd Heat for Derby on Saturday at 9pm at Wimbledon - currently get 6/1 on him to win the heat - he is 4th fav out of 6.
Gooders
19-05-2011, 12:56 PM
Law to himself will win the first at haydock
Or not.
ozeagle
19-05-2011, 01:25 PM
Can someone please get the screen for that borish twat woman who needs to comment post ever race in the UK?
GodstoneEagle
19-05-2011, 01:31 PM
Prices of the top 3 in that race were redonc
Gooders
19-05-2011, 01:39 PM
Prices of the top 3 in that race were redonc
All I did today was a Placepot at Haydock. My first bet this week.
I was with you on Onyx Of Arabia - 4 places counted - guess where it finished, a short head behind the one in front? Yep, 5th.
Just had the winner in the 2nd race too. :(
LLCOOLSTEVE
19-05-2011, 02:58 PM
Marjury Daw at 33/1 ew in the 4pm
yes please
Gooders
19-05-2011, 03:00 PM
South Cape or She's A Character for me.
Gooders
19-05-2011, 03:05 PM
Good job I'm not betting at the moment.
LLCOOLSTEVE
19-05-2011, 03:11 PM
bloody thing led, hate it when that happens
LLCOOLSTEVE
19-05-2011, 03:19 PM
TOMINTOUL STAR
LLCOOLSTEVE
19-05-2011, 03:28 PM
same thing happened again ffs
LLCOOLSTEVE
19-05-2011, 03:28 PM
not that ive got any money on it, but still...
Gooders
19-05-2011, 04:00 PM
:)
Just had a look at tomorrow's cards. Load of dross.
Will have another look Saturday, which seems a bit more promising.
Bigtoe82
19-05-2011, 04:25 PM
Just a quick question hoping someone will know....
On betfair in the 17.05 there were loads of stupidly priced horses. As obviously you can't do e/w except from in the multiples section. I ventured in there and had £1 e/w on 3 horses at 50/1, 65/1 and 320/1....The 60/1 places and yet only pays out £2.83.....how do they work these bets out as confused!??
Beckenham Boy
20-05-2011, 09:30 AM
Haydock Tote Jackpot selections
Race 14:30(GMT) Man Of God Win
Race 15:00(GMT) Represent Win
Race 15:30(GMT) Regal Approval Win
Race 16:00(GMT) Sergeant Troy Win
Race 16:30(GMT) Opera Box Win
Race 17:00(GMT) Mijhaar Win
Gooders
20-05-2011, 10:38 AM
Some cracking races tomorrow - including a fair few of those big field sprint races. Will keep my powder dry until then, I think.
Gooders
20-05-2011, 12:37 PM
Here we go again:
Jockeys Paul Doe, Greg Fairley, Kirsty Milczarek and Jimmy Quinn along with former rider Paul Fitzsimons have all been charged with serious breaches of the rules of racing.
It is alleged they conspired to commit a corrupt or fraudulent practice following a British Horseracing Authority investigation into suspicious betting activity on a number of races.
Fitzsimons is no longer a jockey but is now a licensed trainer.
Registered owners Maurice Sines and James Crickmore have also been charged with the same breach of the rules, along with six others - Peter Gold, Nick Gold, Shaun Harris, David Kendrick, Darren May and Liam Vasey.
All of the individuals except the jockeys are alternatively/additionally charged with another breach in that it is alleged 'they caused the jockey in the race to act by communicating to him directly or indirectly, at his request and for material reward, gift, favour or benefit in kind, Inside Information in relation to the named horse'.
Each of the jockeys is additionally charged with a different breach in that it is alleged 'they communicated directly or indirectly to one or more betting exchange account holders, for material reward, gift, favour or benefit in kind, information relating to the prospects of the named horse'.
The allegations focus on horses being laid to lose on betting exchanges in 10 races that took place between January 17, 2009 and August 15, 2009.
As well as being charged for allegedly passing on information for reward, each of the jockeys has also been charged with 'intentionally failing to ensure that their horse was run on its merits'.
Paul Doe has been charged in relation to a total of five races combining both charges. The races took place at Lingfield, Wolverhampton, Kempton and Bath.
Greg Fairley has been charged in relation to four races, Jimmy Quinn with two and Milczarek and Fitzsimons to one race each.
An independent disciplinary panel hearing has been set for October 20 and is scheduled to last 10 days.
The guideline penalty for any jockey found guilty of 'deliberately not riding a horse to obtain the best possible placing for personal reward or knowing it has been laid to lose' is five to 25 years disqualification, with an entry point of eight years.
'Corrupt or Fraudulent Practice' has an entry point of three years, 'causing a licensed person to breach the betting/inside information rules' is six months and 'passing information for reward' is three years.
An owner laying a horse he owns to lose has an entry point of 18 months.
Chris Brand, acting chief executive of the BHA, said: "Protecting the integrity of racing is a key priority for the Authority.
"In recent years we have invested heavily into a wide ranging infrastructure of investigatory services designed to monitor and combat integrity threats to our sport.
"British racing is rightly recognised worldwide for its expertise in this area and the high standards we set for both ourselves and those participating.
"Racegoers and punters should be reassured that the overwhelming majority of races are free of suspicion and we are committed to deterring and detecting wrong-doing and taking action when we believe there is evidence of it.
"We will continue to look to the support of Government and other agencies in ensuring an effective regulatory regime and the provision of dedicated resources to assist in this area.
"Recent events demonstrate this is a growing concern many sports share.
"The charges issued by the Authority today are the result of a lengthy, detailed and complex investigation, following suspicious betting activity on more than one betting exchange and with traditional bookmakers.
"It is of course of utmost importance that those charged are given a fair hearing and the opportunity to defend themselves and we will therefore make no further comment on the details of this case at this stage."
A Professional Jockeys Association statement added: "The PJA said they were aware of the on-going BHA investigations relating to these jockeys but were only informed recently that charges were imminent.
"The PJA has now recommended that the jockeys in question seek legal representation. The PJA stressed that on any issues concerning integrity, which is vital to the sport of horse racing, it will continue to support the BHA in carrying out that function.
"Until this case is concluded, the PJA, as the trade body for jockeys, will continue to offer advice and support to the jockeys should they seek it."
Fitzsimons was "shocked" at the charges, but is "pretty confident" his name will be cleared.
"I'm happy to help with the investigations for as long as it takes," said the Hungerford-based trainer.
"I went for an interview (with the BHA security department) 16 months ago and heard nothing back from them.
"I'm shocked and dismayed but I've got 100% backing from my owners, and will be represented by solicitor Andrew Chalk.
"I'm pretty confident my name will be cleared."
Chalk, of Withy King solicitors, will also be representing Quinn. He said: "Jimmy is sending in the paperwork as the charges have only just arrived, so we will look closer at the situation at the beginning of next week.
"We know the races involved, but have not yet seen any details or charges from BHA.
"Jimmy is pulling his hair out and is particularly frustrated.
"He feels he has co-operated fully with the investigation, having answered all of the appropriate questions with honesty.
"He is dismayed at the charges, and is adamant he has done nothing wrong.
"He will be doing everything in his power to clear his name."
Milczarek's charges relate to her ride aboard Obe Gold at Lingfield on August 15, 2009.
Trained at the time by Debbie Mountain, Milczarek finished fifth on the even-money favourite in a six-furlong seller.
One of the races over which Fairley has been charged relates to Obe Gold's performance when he finished third in a claimer at Catterick 24 hours earlier.
Milczarek's representative, Christopher Stewart-Moore, said Milczarek was "stunned", and claimed the rider suffered injuries when Obe Gold left the starting stalls at Lingfield.
Stewart-Moore said in a statement issued to Press Association Sport: "Kirsty Milczarek has been informed today that she has been charged with breaches of the Rules of Racing relating to one ride on a horse at Lingfield back in August of 2009 called Obe Gold.
"She is stunned by this development. She has been fully co-operative with the BHA investigations.
"There was no stewards' inquiry into her ride on the day.
"Raceform (race-readers) comment on the race concerning Obe Gold's performance was: 'For the second time in 24 hours (Obe Gold) got his departure from the stalls all wrong, this time breaking awkwardly and unbalancing Kirsty Milczarek for several strides.'
"Raceform went on to say: 'Although he recovered gradually, a shortage of room inside the final furlong sealed his fate.'
"The horse had done the same thing in its previous race and in its subsequent race, as is recorded by Raceform.
"This is all borne out by the video up to the race.
"On this occasion his antics on exiting from the stalls caused Kirsty to hit the upright of the starting stall, causing her a very painful injury evidenced by bruising across her chest which was observed by both the racecourse doctor on the day and the physio at Newbury the next day.
"She was in such pain that she was observed to be in tears after the race by another jockey.
"Her shoulder was strapped up by the physio to enable her to ride at Newbury the next day.
"She knows absolutely nothing about any laying of this horse other than what she has been told by BHA investigators and of the eight non-licensed people, she knows only two of them as nodding acquaintances and has never spoken to them privately.
"She has provided the BHA with all her telephone records and there are no telephone calls between her and any of the named layers.
"In short there is no evidence to support the BHA's charge for the very simple reason that she has done nothing wrong.
"As yet the BHA have provided none of the evidence in support of their charges against her but have nevertheless made a press release announcing the fact of the charge and given a hearing date for October of this year.
"Kirsty has decided to make this press release so as to reassure all the owners and trainers for whom she rides that she will continue to ride every horse she is employed to ride to win."
1fa6
Beckenham Boy
20-05-2011, 02:09 PM
2 people for £1 entry to William Hill Greyhound Derby races at Wimbledon for anyone interested - http://www.lovethedogs.co.uk/wimbledon/greyhound-derby.aspx
evvo111
21-05-2011, 08:25 AM
As today is meant to be judgement day is it time to take an Overdose? :)
Gooders
21-05-2011, 09:56 AM
I think it'll get turned over by whichever of our seasoned sprinters decides it's his day today.
Heart ruling head, but I'm hoping it will be good old Borderlescott.
JamTheEagle
21-05-2011, 10:00 AM
Tangerine Trees for me, just doesn't make sense to back something that short from abroad first time.
Gooders
21-05-2011, 10:09 AM
I can't get over the fact that Tangerine Trees was running in extremely low-grade handicaps a couple of seasons ago. He's come on leaps and bounds, obviously - but you could have thrown a hankerchief over the first 6 home in his last race and he would have got beat in one or two more strides - one of the others will surely go past him today.
Decent each-way bet though.
evvo111
21-05-2011, 10:12 AM
Have to admit to being a bit of an old softy when it comes to backing horses. I like the thought of an underdog (horse?) who didn't cost much coming good. I also like horses that win a lot. Years ago I really enjoyed backing Provideo and Timeless Times.
Gooders
21-05-2011, 12:13 PM
Have to admit to being a bit of an old softy when it comes to backing horses. I like the thought of an underdog (horse?) who didn't cost much coming good. I also like horses that win a lot. Years ago I really enjoyed backing Provideo and Timeless Times.
Spindrifter, Ardross, Admiral Grenville, Primo Domini, Janus - loads of old favourites there I used to follow.
Borderlescott is my current favourite. Tough as old boots. :p
cantspell
21-05-2011, 12:27 PM
I will be laying Overdose - Ground must be against it too
LLCOOLSTEVE
21-05-2011, 01:02 PM
Overdose let me down a while back at 4/6, neverbacking it again
LLCOOLSTEVE
21-05-2011, 01:24 PM
WINTERS NIGHT AT 2.30 11/1 ISH
oops caps
LLCOOLSTEVE
21-05-2011, 01:25 PM
2.35 even
LLCOOLSTEVE
21-05-2011, 01:36 PM
bloody 2nd
LLCOOLSTEVE
21-05-2011, 01:37 PM
make it 3rd, by a nose
LLCOOLSTEVE
21-05-2011, 01:54 PM
In the 3pm at haydock, couldnt back Overdose, but like prohibit and Stone of Folca at 12/1 and 40/1
NO1FAN
21-05-2011, 01:58 PM
Overdose let me down a while back at 4/6, neverbacking it again
The one time it lost. Sounds like my luck!:D
cantspell
21-05-2011, 02:05 PM
i am happy with that lay 5th or 6th at best for overdose
LLCOOLSTEVE
21-05-2011, 02:05 PM
Overdose just isnt that good, raced against some poor horses....
prohibit 3rd at 14/1
Sole power wins, Overdose nowhere
LLCOOLSTEVE
21-05-2011, 02:06 PM
i am happy with that lay 5th or 6th at best for overdose
easily lay of the day :p
cantspell
21-05-2011, 02:18 PM
I can't get over the fact that Tangerine Trees was running in extremely low-grade handicaps a couple of seasons ago. He's come on leaps and bounds, obviously - but you could have thrown a hankerchief over the first 6 home in his last race and he would have got beat in one or two more strides - one of the others will surely go past him today.
Decent each-way bet though.
I think it is easier to step up in sprints than say over 1m or further - you couldnt see a low grade handicapper at 1m 4f progreessing and winning a Group Race
LLCOOLSTEVE
21-05-2011, 02:19 PM
Quite like Sea of heartbreak at 9/1 in the 3.20 at Goodwood
Gooders
21-05-2011, 02:35 PM
I think it is easier to step up in sprints than say over 1m or further - you couldnt see a low grade handicapper at 1m 4f progreessing and winning a Group Race
True, but did he get found out today now that the established horses were a bit fitter? I think so.
Thought the old boy was going to win 100 yards out but no disgrace in 4th - didn't help that one of the other jockeys threw a blanket at his head in the early stages - I wondered why Callan stopped riding for a bit. :grrr:
LLCOOLSTEVE
21-05-2011, 02:35 PM
3.40 York, befortyfour is interesting, especially at 33/1 or bigger
LLCOOLSTEVE
21-05-2011, 02:36 PM
Made no difference that early in the race gooders, channel 4 trying to fill the gaps with talking rubbish as normal
Gooders
21-05-2011, 02:46 PM
They said it made no difference. :confused:
To me, if a horse loses ground for a few strides and doesn't get beat far I don't see how anyone can say it didn't make a difference.
Sole Power won that with a bit in hand though, I think.
LLCOOLSTEVE
21-05-2011, 02:46 PM
2034
Btw Borderlescot bound to have one more day in the limelight before he starts to lose his pace
LLCOOLSTEVE
21-05-2011, 02:47 PM
They said it made no difference. :confused:
To me, if a horse loses ground for a few strides and doesn't get beat far I don't see how anyone can say it didn't make a difference.
Sole Power won that with a bit in hand though, I think.
Dont think he really lost any ground though
Gooders
21-05-2011, 02:49 PM
Btw Borderlescot bound to have one more day in the limelight before he starts to lose his pace
Hope so. I admire his consistency - always gives you a run for your money, and usually at a price. :p
LLCOOLSTEVE
21-05-2011, 02:54 PM
Small northern yard too, nice to see him stick one up the big yards!
cantspell
21-05-2011, 02:57 PM
I was on Celerina in the 3.40 at York would have won but for a shocking start
cantspell
21-05-2011, 02:59 PM
Let's see how good old Norville does at 7f
cantspell
21-05-2011, 03:03 PM
Norville didnt get home but always puts it in
LLCOOLSTEVE
21-05-2011, 03:05 PM
Rocket bob at Haydock, 12/1
Gooders
21-05-2011, 03:08 PM
Hoorah for Our Jonathan - did the bet yesterday though so didn't get an early price, unfortunately.
Gooders
21-05-2011, 03:09 PM
Tariq Too in the 4.40 is my last pick today.
LLCOOLSTEVE
21-05-2011, 03:14 PM
friends going to lingfield this evening, but i have work early tomorrow morning :(
LLCOOLSTEVE
21-05-2011, 03:34 PM
Tariq Too in the 4.40 is my last pick today.
Sir Bruno quite interesting
LLCOOLSTEVE
21-05-2011, 03:46 PM
Well done Gooders
for what its worth, not much right now, i think nawaashi is a cracking price at 11/1 ish in the 4.50
spuddy
21-05-2011, 03:46 PM
I did an each way accumulator today.
bets were Goodwood 2:45 harlestone time (won) 3/1
Goodwood 3:20 class is class (placed) 6/1
Curragh 3:45 dubawi gold (placed) 7/4
Goodwood 4:25 Jet Away (placed) 4/6
York 5:25 Jeer (still to run but odds are 100/30)
I bet £5 each way but if my last horse places i have no idea how much i would win. Can anybody enlighten me?
LLCOOLSTEVE
21-05-2011, 04:18 PM
if it places about 60 quid
spuddy
21-05-2011, 04:23 PM
if it places about 60 quid
Cheers for that..........i'll know in about 10 mins.
spuddy
21-05-2011, 04:32 PM
Cheers for that..........i'll know in about 10 mins.
Bugger !!
Beckenham Boy
21-05-2011, 09:30 PM
Jazz Apollo runs in the 2nd Heat for Derby on Saturday at 9pm at Wimbledon - currently get 6/1 on him to win the heat - he is 4th fav out of 6.
Jazz Apollo went off as least favoured at 7/1 but he won again - through to the next round. Hope some of you are on him
ozeagle
22-05-2011, 11:32 AM
All set for the champ tonight?
SYT?
Finbar
22-05-2011, 12:03 PM
11/4 with William Hills to win by 5 lengths or more, like finding money on the street and picking it up?
Finbar
22-05-2011, 12:04 PM
I put the last of my William Hill account on Fastidious (Weld / Smullen / Sheikh Mohammed, can't lose) at 9/4, once that wins will have a dabble on the 11/4 :D
Finbar
22-05-2011, 12:45 PM
Fastidious beaten a long long way, that'll teach me!
GodstoneEagle
22-05-2011, 02:43 PM
11/4 with William Hills to win by 5 lengths or more, like finding money on the street and picking it up?
4 1/2 lengths :D
pauldrulez
22-05-2011, 02:47 PM
Looking a few weeks ahead, have got a variety of bets on the Queen's horse in the Derby. Reckon it'll end up going off odds-on, so will probably end up looking to lay it to make some money.
JamTheEagle
22-05-2011, 02:49 PM
Looking a few weeks ahead, have got a variety of bets on the Queen's horse in the Derby. Reckon it'll end up going off odds-on, so will probably end up looking to lay it to make some money.
I'm not backing it at the silly prices it will be, have much more interest in e/w chances like Masked Marvel.
KentishEagle
22-05-2011, 02:59 PM
Jazz Apollo went off as least favoured at 7/1 but he won again - through to the next round. Hope some of you are on him
I certainly am BB!! How many rounds till the final are left?
LLCOOLSTEVE
22-05-2011, 03:01 PM
Looking a few weeks ahead, have got a variety of bets on the Queen's horse in the Derby. Reckon it'll end up going off odds-on, so will probably end up looking to lay it to make some money.
Its way too short, cant have it anywhere near that price
recital for me
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Gooders
22-05-2011, 03:03 PM
4 1/2 lengths :D
Will be interested to see how it gets on when it races against some proper horses. Campanologist has been beaten in Class 3 Handicaps so I doubt that So You Think even knew it had had a race today.
ozeagle
22-05-2011, 10:29 PM
Sad indictment on the standard of Irish racing when they serve up that tripe as a G1...
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