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Gooders
05-04-2012, 04:31 PM
Mediocre week for me - only £200 up :)
saul1664
05-04-2012, 04:32 PM
lol
LLCOOLSTEVE
05-04-2012, 04:43 PM
For ****s sake. Market Puzzle 2nd in a canter, she never rode it out.
BRIDLE HORSE, DOESNT LIKE THE WHIP
oops caps
but i think she thought she had everything covered and didnt see the winner on the other side
saul1664
05-04-2012, 04:55 PM
Yeah fine. But she didn't ride it out, wasn't talking about the whip.
JamTheEagle
06-04-2012, 09:39 PM
Leqqaa is of big interest now that the ****wit Hills has retired. Switzerland is best of the rest for me
saul1664
07-04-2012, 10:27 AM
Bit of an odd hotch potch of racing for a Saturday. Note that Pat Eddery's Marvelinho makes a quick reappearance at Lingfield, he thought a lot of this horse and is trading at 8.8, don't know what to make of that considering he was favourite for the Brocklesby.
1.50 Haydock Kings Grey @ 3.55
2.50 Carlisle Degas Art @ 3.1
3.30 Haydock Aurovas Encore (e/w) @ 12
4.05 Haydock Persian Snow (e/w) @ 10
saul1664
07-04-2012, 12:38 PM
Bit of an odd hotch potch of racing for a Saturday. Note that Pat Eddery's Marvelinho makes a quick reappearance at Lingfield, he thought a lot of this horse and is trading at 8.8, don't know what to make of that considering he was favourite for the Brocklesby.
Second behind the impressive winner. Only turned out to be moderate then.
saul1664
07-04-2012, 01:17 PM
Whoops. Just got tipped that Kempton winner (advised at 25s). Didn't bet. :eek:
Gooders
07-04-2012, 01:28 PM
It's chance was there for all to see in hindsight - unfortunately I did the Godolphin nag.
NO1FAN
07-04-2012, 01:40 PM
Yeah I was sweet on it last night but plumped for the fav too :(
Gooders
07-04-2012, 01:46 PM
A 2nd and a 3rd now - poor start to the day for me.
Come on the old boy!
Gooders
07-04-2012, 01:48 PM
Clearly his legs have gone. :(
LLCOOLSTEVE
07-04-2012, 02:12 PM
Just went to have a look and was already to tell you to get over your blind love of Borderlescott but the horse really should win that race at the weights! tough race though, Think bear behind could run well and go close.
best racing on Sat is in Oz im afraid.
Bear behind wins :) first past the post but then placed 2nd by stewards, but bookies pay first past first and amended result :)
1fa8
Gooders
07-04-2012, 02:21 PM
Get in Thimaar.
Gooders
07-04-2012, 02:22 PM
Bear behind wins :) first past the post but then placed 2nd by stewards, but bookies pay first past first and amended result :)
Could never bring myself to back a horse owned by Michael loser Owen.
saul1664
07-04-2012, 02:36 PM
1.50 Haydock Kings Grey @ 3.55
2.50 Carlisle Degas Art @ 3.1
3.30 Haydock Aurovas Encore (e/w) @ 12
4.05 Haydock Persian Snow (e/w) @ 10
Not bad so far. Degas Art won and Aurovas Encore just won pretty nicely at 12s.
Gooders
07-04-2012, 02:38 PM
A 1st a 2nd and a 3rd from 5 selections so far for me.
Need at least 1 more and preferably 2 to make it an ok day.
LLCOOLSTEVE
07-04-2012, 02:43 PM
Could never bring myself to back a horse owned by Michael loser Owen.
Odd choice if you think it will win though
Gooders
07-04-2012, 02:53 PM
Odd choice if you think it will win though
I didn't - won its maiden and only had one really decent bit of form after that - couldn't see it winning today mate.
And I must stop backing Godolphin horses - I never get them on the right day. :(
saul1664
07-04-2012, 02:56 PM
Only just realised I didn't put a win bet on Persian Snow, just the place bet went on, rectified now.
saul1664
07-04-2012, 03:11 PM
No good. Flattered to deceive. Sue Smith's almost won again.
Gooders
07-04-2012, 04:02 PM
FFS - can't even get an 11/8f placed. :rolleyes:
LLCOOLSTEVE
07-04-2012, 04:39 PM
I didn't - won its maiden and only had one really decent bit of form after that - couldn't see it winning today mate.
And I must stop backing Godolphin horses - I never get them on the right day. :(
I didnt mean today, but i mean in future, If Owen has a horse that you think will win surely you will back it and avoid it just cause of Owen?!
cantspell
07-04-2012, 07:05 PM
I am away at the moment - but I would definitely back an Owen horse if I thought it would win. A lot of us were backing Brown Panther last year.
I think he comes over well in Racing as someone that loves the sport - remember him crying at Royal Ascot last year
JamTheEagle
07-04-2012, 09:57 PM
I am away at the moment - but I would definitely back an Owen horse if I thought it would win. A lot of us were backing Brown Panther last year.
I think he comes over well in Racing as someone that loves the sport - remember him crying at Royal Ascot last year
I had backed BP from it's first run and took the double figures prior to Ascot, I too like Owen but I also find it hard to catch the yard right - too many of their horses are gambled on and come nowhere. Plus I don't trust Kingscote with gambled money.
Gooders
07-04-2012, 11:55 PM
I had backed BP from it's first run and took the double figures prior to Ascot, I too like Owen but I also find it hard to catch the yard right - too many of their horses are gambled on and come nowhere. Plus I don't trust Kingscote with gambled money.
Yep.
saul1664
08-04-2012, 12:18 PM
3.10 Towcester Huckleberry @ 2.58
Going for the hat-trick and up against disappointing sorts here.
4.15 Towcester Brass Tax @ 2.64
Usually like to avoid races like this and lay these sort of horses in big fields, but he's been highly tried and has some placed from in Grade 1 events, and drops down to a class 5 here. Should win.
4.30 Fairyhouse Flemenstar @ 2.2
Seems a fair price considering he's Irelands top novice, including when handing out a 19 length beating when in an Irish Grade 1.
saul1664
08-04-2012, 02:34 PM
3.10 Towcester Huckleberry @ 2.58
Going for the hat-trick and up against disappointing sorts here.
Winner. Drifted to 3.9 before the off, got 3.65, returned 15/8, looked like he'd win easily after taking it up at the last but stopped to a plod on the run in and hung on by a couple of lengths. :p
saul1664
08-04-2012, 03:37 PM
Brass Tacks slightly disappointing, found nothing from 2 out, but Flemenstar very impressive, won by about 15 lengths, needs to find some better competition now.
saul1664
09-04-2012, 09:02 AM
Flemenstar now 8/1 for the Gold Cup. 7 meetings but all of them dross.
2.25 Yarmouth Periphery @ 2.24
Dettori is riding for his retainer at Yarmouth today, and this looks likely on his short head second at Newmarket last year if there is no support for any of the newcomers.
4.45 Yarkmouth Zaeem @ 2.66
Again Frankie up here, but his retainer runs the first two in the betting, moderate in three runs last year but drops a class here and should be hard to beat.
2.40 Fakenham Marky Bob @ 1.68
Not suggesting backing a hunter chaser at odds on, but if he drifts past evens would be a bet here, winning profile under PTP and run under rules last time out (again when well fancied) ending up with a 86 length victory. Expect more of the same.
Gooders
09-04-2012, 09:22 AM
Yeah - couldn't find 4 to put in a Lucky15 today. Will have a little bit on Blues Jazz at Redcar and that's it.
saul1664
09-04-2012, 11:32 AM
A couple of late bits
3.10 Redcar Red Scintilla (2pts place) @ 2.04
3.35 Yarmouth Irie Ute (e/w) @ 11
LLCOOLSTEVE
09-04-2012, 12:07 PM
211a
If anyone wants to play the Guineas market on betfair then it might be worth backing periphery before runs today at big prices with a view to trading.
Burton port out of the national on Saturday.
saul1664
09-04-2012, 12:39 PM
They think he's that good. Have money in VC for ante ghost.
saul1664
09-04-2012, 01:34 PM
They think he's that good. Have money in VC for ante ghost.
That was a question, not a statement. 5th (beaten about 10 lengths). Found absolutely nothing.
saul1664
09-04-2012, 01:48 PM
lol. The jockey on the hunter chaser rode it like it was over 5f, won by 30 lengths but he knackered it out so much it just about jumped the last.
saul1664
09-04-2012, 02:17 PM
Red Scintilla got placed, drifted to 20s before being backed in, took 3.55 for a place on betfair, paid more than backing the odds on favourite. :lux: :cool:
saul1664
09-04-2012, 02:39 PM
Hmmmm. Jamie Spencer gave Irie Ute a pig of a ride, going well behind, stuck behind a wall of horses, had to switch to the outside to get a run, leaders had gone by then, finished about 5th or 6th, not given a hard ride. Worth looking at next time.
saul1664
09-04-2012, 04:06 PM
Hmmmmm. Frankie beaten again on the short priced favourite, stablemate won it, didn't overly try too hard to catch it either.
JamTheEagle
09-04-2012, 06:38 PM
Out Now pays a massive compliment to Seabass today :lux:
LLCOOLSTEVE
09-04-2012, 06:39 PM
sebass will never win the national imo
Might be well handicapped etc but unproven over distance and the fences
Cappa Bleu had form well franked too ;)
Chance du Roy who finished behind him at ascot won a handicap at haydock comfortably next time out
cantspell
09-04-2012, 06:53 PM
Salsify runs tomorrow- won at Cheltenham and has to give weight away, but I think it is a very good horse so should go well
JamTheEagle
09-04-2012, 06:59 PM
sebass will never win the national
I'm very happy with my ante post position for the race.
On a side note, Flemenstar is a ludicrous price for the Gold Cup considering he has beaten nothing.
cantspell
09-04-2012, 07:27 PM
Salsify runs tomorrow- won at Cheltenham and has to give weight away, but I think it is a very good horse so should go well Paddy P priced it up at 9/4 which is not bad.
Aintree have had lots of rain apparently-going now soft with plenty more rain expected tomorrow, weds and thurs- will make things interesting- might put some down for giles cross now
Gooders
09-04-2012, 07:29 PM
Yeah - couldn't find 4 to put in a Lucky15 today. Will have a little bit on Blues Jazz at Redcar and that's it.
3rd at 20/1 - e/w touch for me and Bobsta. :)
LLCOOLSTEVE
09-04-2012, 07:31 PM
Paddy P priced it up at 9/4 which is not bad.
Aintree have had lots of rain apparently-going now soft with plenty more rain expected tomorrow, weds and thurs- will make things interesting- might put some down for giles cross now
Would like Giles cross and always waining on my side if they both run
cantspell
09-04-2012, 07:34 PM
Yes done a little tickle on Always Waining - always like previous form over those fences
saul1664
10-04-2012, 10:09 AM
4.05 Southwell Spartilla @ 4.6
Can complete hat-trick in small field here.
7.00 Fairyhouse Salsify @ 2.9
Can complete hat trick if running to Cheltenham form, has a mysterious pulled up in his form figures and it's a hunters chase and a big field but clearly best here.
JamTheEagle
10-04-2012, 10:22 AM
saul- thought you would be interested in laying Niceofyoutotellme? Looks far too short, Scartlet Whispers far more appealing.
cantspell
10-04-2012, 10:26 AM
4.05 Southwell Spartilla @ 4.6
Can complete hat-trick in small field here.
7.00 Fairyhouse Salsify @ 2.9
Can complete hat trick if running to Cheltenham form, has a mysterious pulled up in his form figures and it's a hunters chase and a big field but clearly best here.
Put Salsify up last night 9/4 with PP then, assuming that you have used Betfair
JamTheEagle
10-04-2012, 10:27 AM
Watching Salsify closely - if he wins I'll be investing some more in Killyglen for the GN.
saul1664
10-04-2012, 10:40 AM
saul- thought you would be interested in laying Niceofyoutotellme? Looks far too short, Scartlet Whispers far more appealing.
Going off @ 8/13, good spot, Scarlet Whispers certainly has good form lines and could be an e/w bet to nothing. Favourite certainly a bad price, but has not done too much wrong. Trying not to get involved too much in early season maidens after Saturday.
saul1664
10-04-2012, 10:42 AM
Put Salsify up last night 9/4 with PP then, assuming that you have used Betfair
Yeah. I'm at work later so took the price, sure there will be better nearer the off, always a strong market at Fairyhouse.
Gooders
10-04-2012, 12:37 PM
Had £40 to pick up today that I had forgotten all about so I got the scattergun out.
Main bet:
Kinryas 4.25
Boss's Destination 4.35
Hatta Stream 4.45
Liberty Ship 5.15
Secondary bet:
Toymaker 2.20
Punching 3.00
Quixote 4.05
Ay Tay Tate 5.25
Shrapnel on Ambrose Princess in the 3.50
Plus two football teams that I would love to see lose this evening so I've backed them to win singly and in a double - Hoopy Twats to beat Swansea and Weeds to beat Reading.
22a3
LLCOOLSTEVE
10-04-2012, 01:40 PM
Rogue reporter, 4.15 yarmouth, although short at 7/4 looks like a great chance
Gooders
10-04-2012, 02:05 PM
Punching wins - 9/2 that was when I looked this morning. Starting to wish my "secondary bet" was my "primary bet" today!
Gooders
10-04-2012, 02:58 PM
Bugger - Ambrose Princess 2nd. :(
LLCOOLSTEVE
10-04-2012, 03:02 PM
Good luck in the next!
Gooders
10-04-2012, 03:02 PM
Every race at Southwell today won by a girlie jockey so far - let's hope Hayley can bag another in the next.
LLCOOLSTEVE
10-04-2012, 03:03 PM
Like Spartilla myself
Gooders
10-04-2012, 03:11 PM
Argh, another 2nd. :(
NO1FAN
10-04-2012, 03:12 PM
Had a good day at Southwell so far. Just one more please :)
Bet Confirmation - CS79340505O - Internet Time of bet: 10/04/2012 13:54:23 Print
Selections
No. Selections Event Event Date E/W Terms Odds Result
1 Punching 3.00 Southwell
(Win and Each Way)
Live Stream 10/04/2012 2 Places
1/4 Odds 3/1 Won
2 Ace Of Spies 3.30 Southwell
(Win and Each Way)
Live Stream 10/04/2012 3 Places
1/5 Odds 11/4 Won
3 Cape Safari 4.05 Southwell
(Win and Each Way)
Live Stream 10/04/2012 2 Places
1/4 Odds 11/2 Won
4 Jonnie Skull 5.05 Southwell
(Win and Each Way)
Live Stream 10/04/2012 3 Places
1/4 Odds 4/1 To Run
JamTheEagle
10-04-2012, 03:13 PM
Rogue reporter, 4.15 yarmouth, although short at 7/4 looks like a great chance
Not today by the looks of it, although with that yard you never can tell - drifters win easily and well backed struggle to place...
Kelpie Blitz for me for another to catch right - Georgy boy.
Gooders
10-04-2012, 03:15 PM
Had a good day at Southwell so far. Just one more please :)
Everything crossed for you NO1 - especially as I don't have a pick in that race. :p
Gooders
10-04-2012, 03:17 PM
I suppose the obvious hedge bet would be Bonnie Prince Blue?
LLCOOLSTEVE
10-04-2012, 03:22 PM
Good luck No1, looks like the sort of race an outsider will win to me, something like flow chart....
LLCOOLSTEVE
10-04-2012, 03:22 PM
Rogue reporter, 4.15 yarmouth, although short at 7/4 looks like a great chance
withdrawn, didnt wanna go in stalls
Gooders
10-04-2012, 03:26 PM
He's busy backing everything else in the race... :)
Gooders
10-04-2012, 03:32 PM
Dammit - wrong long-shot.
Gooders
10-04-2012, 03:44 PM
Another winner for me - told all the guys in the shop that Boss's Destination was my best bet too, so that's a relief.
LLCOOLSTEVE
10-04-2012, 03:45 PM
Ray of joy 10/1 in the next
NO1FAN
10-04-2012, 03:47 PM
Ray of joy 10/1 in the next
:p
LLCOOLSTEVE
10-04-2012, 03:47 PM
Ray of joy 10/1 in the next
:)
Gooders
10-04-2012, 03:53 PM
Right, come on the Jonnie Skull!
LLCOOLSTEVE
10-04-2012, 03:54 PM
Would John Gosden really send a runner alll the way to Pontefract just to get a handicap mark in its 3rd run?? seems a big price to me at 9/2, ew bet to nothing... if it places
LLCOOLSTEVE
10-04-2012, 04:00 PM
eyecatcher today silver lace in the 2.40 Yarmouth
JamTheEagle
10-04-2012, 04:01 PM
Would John Gosden really send a runner alll the way to Pontefract just to get a handicap mark in its 3rd run?? seems a big price to me at 9/2, ew bet to nothing... if it places
I thought the same about Bessichka :(
Gooders
10-04-2012, 04:05 PM
Couldn't fancy the Gosden horse at all.
NO1FAN
10-04-2012, 04:09 PM
I suppose the obvious hedge bet would be Bonnie Prince Blue?
You were right :p I left it alone though :(
Gooders
10-04-2012, 04:10 PM
Aaargh! Sorry NO1. :(
LLCOOLSTEVE
10-04-2012, 04:10 PM
You were right :p I left it alone though :(
Gooders and I had the forecast
Gooders
10-04-2012, 04:11 PM
Still a decent return, yes?
At least Jonnie Skull wasn't pipped in a photo or something.
NO1FAN
10-04-2012, 04:13 PM
Return was £177.13 so won't complain.
Hoping for a similar return on my other L15 too. Come on Veiled Applause
Bet Confirmation - QS01811484O - Internet Time of bet: 10/04/2012 14:07:35 Print
Selections
No. Selections Event Event Date E/W Terms Odds Result
1 Indieslad 2.20 Pontefract
(Win and Each Way)
Live Stream 10/04/2012 3 Places
1/4 Odds 8/1 Lost
2 Es Que Love 3.20 Pontefract
(Win and Each Way)
Live Stream 10/04/2012 3 Places
1/4 Odds 4/1 Won
3 Cloudy Spirit 3.50 Pontefract
(Win and Each Way)
Live Stream 10/04/2012 3 Places
1/4 Odds 11/4 Won
4 Veiled Applause 5.25 Pontefract
(Win and Each Way)
Live Stream 10/04/2012 4 Places
1/4 Odds 13/2 To Run
1f43
Gooders
10-04-2012, 04:15 PM
I'm afraid I have to go against you there with Ay Tay Tate, purely in the interests of my wallet, you understand. ;)
NO1FAN
10-04-2012, 04:19 PM
I'm afraid I have to go against you there with Ay Tay Tate, purely in the interests of my wallet, you understand. ;)
Of course :)
Backed it LTO don't fancy it at all today which will probably mean it will hose up
LLCOOLSTEVE
10-04-2012, 04:21 PM
Gooders and No1 fan showdown in the last at Ponte :D
JamTheEagle
10-04-2012, 04:23 PM
I put pennies on Spanish Plume - hasn't been the best day.
LLCOOLSTEVE
10-04-2012, 04:23 PM
id have to take a chance at thunderstruck, so well treated on turf at 16/1
LLCOOLSTEVE
10-04-2012, 04:24 PM
Notice bellvano running in next at Fairhouse, nice winner of last race at chelt festival at 20/1
Gooders
10-04-2012, 04:24 PM
Media Hype is the one for money.
LLCOOLSTEVE
10-04-2012, 04:26 PM
Media Hype is the one for money.
Brockfield was very well backed into fav
NO1FAN
10-04-2012, 04:29 PM
Media Hype is the one for money.
and wins very very easily
Gooders
10-04-2012, 04:31 PM
Bollocks, yet another 2nd. Close to being a really good day today. :(
LLCOOLSTEVE
10-04-2012, 04:34 PM
Munaawib 33/1 in the 5.55, big old price after being gelded
LLCOOLSTEVE
10-04-2012, 04:35 PM
Poor Bellvano :(
Gooders
10-04-2012, 04:36 PM
So was Kinyras but he clearly didn't take to losing his knackers.
NO1FAN
10-04-2012, 04:37 PM
Poor Bellvano :(
:(
JamTheEagle
10-04-2012, 04:37 PM
Salsify drifting :rolleyes:
LLCOOLSTEVE
10-04-2012, 05:20 PM
Please tell me nobody here is going to back Synchronised at 7/1 or shorter?
JamTheEagle
10-04-2012, 05:22 PM
Please tell me nobody here is going to back Synchronised at 7/1 or shorter?
I'll be laying it and place laying it at those prices!
saul1664
10-04-2012, 05:41 PM
Like Spartilla myself
Went to challenge 2 out, and seemed to change his legs a lot like he'd lost his action, not quite seen that at Southwell before.
saul1664
10-04-2012, 05:48 PM
3/1 Salsify on exchanges. Seems a bit more realistic.
JamTheEagle
10-04-2012, 05:55 PM
Still drifting.
saul1664
10-04-2012, 05:56 PM
7/2 on course now.
JamTheEagle
10-04-2012, 05:57 PM
Coming back in now, make your mind up punters!
saul1664
10-04-2012, 06:09 PM
Fell 2 out when just being asked to join the leaders.
Gooders
10-04-2012, 06:10 PM
Please tell me nobody here is going to back Synchronised at 7/1 or shorter?
Wasn't planning to.
I picked up a £15 free bet in the losing ticket draw at Jennings this week and might stick it on something in the National, just for a laugh. Not that I've had the winner for donkeys years!
cantspell
10-04-2012, 07:09 PM
Derivatives runs tomorrow at Lingfield - I won't be laying it though as it finally gets to run over 7f where it could even win
saul1664
10-04-2012, 07:31 PM
lmfao
LLCOOLSTEVE
10-04-2012, 07:38 PM
lmfao
????? Very very different race conditions than he has ran in before, stands a good chance
saul1664
10-04-2012, 07:50 PM
Haven't looked yet to be fair. But still wanted to lolz
cantspell
10-04-2012, 07:56 PM
And not usual 2/1 6/4 laying prices either
LLCOOLSTEVE
10-04-2012, 09:43 PM
Ryan Moore goes to Lingfield for one ride tomorrow in the 4.20 for Michael Stoute, on board Commend...... before going to kempton. Its a cracking little maiden, but should improve for the step up in trip after promising debut.
Gooders
10-04-2012, 10:23 PM
My selections for tomorrow:
1.50 Lingfield - Waabel
4.40 Nottingham - Sheila's Buddy
5.10 Nottingham - Prince Of Burma
5.40 Nottingham - The Giving Tree
23be
saul1664
11-04-2012, 10:22 AM
Have been going slightly off the boil, just before Aintree and today is difficult, still some bits and pieces.
4.30 Catterick White Deer (e/w) @ 9.4
6.00 Kempton Steelcut @ 5
Would prefer over 6f as he can start his races off the pace sometimes but got a great consistent records of wins and close up places and worth factoring into the price.
7.00 Clean Bowled @ 8
Progressed through claimers and ran well in a class 4 last time, beaten over a length into second, steps up to 1 mile and 4 furlongs here, don't know if will suit or not but faces 4 others, mainly with maiden experience and since he has improved with every run has a good chance here, no way should he be 8s, theres 1lb between the top 3 on official ratings.
9.00 Kempton Black Cadillac (lay) @ 2.7
Supposedly well handicapped but form figures are poor and has a big field here to deal with.
JamTheEagle
11-04-2012, 10:29 AM
Hoping to have a good day:
Catterick 16:00 - Hadrians Rule - 16/1 into 5/1 on debut but missed break, being smashed in again today and Easterby had a good day yesterday. Took 9s this morning, now 4s.
Dundalk 20:20 - Caprella, strong word for this - 85/40.
Gooders
11-04-2012, 01:05 PM
Waabel gets the day off to a good start for me - but only just.
Gooders
11-04-2012, 01:57 PM
Get in Russian Storm - cracking price too!
saul1664
11-04-2012, 02:32 PM
Been given two for the Foxhunters (3.40 Aintree tomorrow).
Silver Adonis @ 10s
Sherriff Hutton @ 26s
Prices on betfair if interested.
cantspell
11-04-2012, 03:25 PM
Nice run by Commend(2nd) should improve for that run
saul1664
11-04-2012, 03:27 PM
Ryan Moore goes to Lingfield for one ride tomorrow in the 4.20 for Michael Stoute, on board Commend...... before going to kempton. Its a cracking little maiden, but should improve for the step up in trip after promising debut.
Drifted as has Pistol (later tonight 1.5 to 4.4), but won well, only listening to commentary, but beaten in a photo only under a hands and heels ride (which is the risk when betting maidens), should improve lots.
saul1664
11-04-2012, 03:30 PM
My horse drifted to 13s. Meh.
JamTheEagle
11-04-2012, 03:34 PM
Hadrians Rule came fourth - tailed off after a fast pace. I'm in shocking form sigh.
saul1664
11-04-2012, 03:39 PM
Unplaced. Though I would like to know how the betting exchanges know the horse isn't going to win 2 minutes from the off after being solid all day.
saul1664
11-04-2012, 03:40 PM
Derivatives runs in 10 mins.
saul1664
11-04-2012, 03:41 PM
8.2 Massive value.
saul1664
11-04-2012, 03:49 PM
Second favourite out, now 11/2.
saul1664
11-04-2012, 03:55 PM
Coup failed again. Derivatives second last beaten over 10 lengths. Keep trying.
LLCOOLSTEVE
11-04-2012, 04:17 PM
Neutrafa :lux: after timing here sorry
cantspell
11-04-2012, 05:36 PM
Promising run by Pistol also 2nd - nice win by expense Claim
cantspell
11-04-2012, 05:38 PM
Ahaly runs in the next at Dundalk , saw it run at Limerock on its debut and it ran very well. Should win this although I am sure the Oxx horse will have something to say about it
Gooders
11-04-2012, 05:42 PM
Can't believe The Giving Tree went off at 6/1.
Thanks Godolphin.
LLCOOLSTEVE
11-04-2012, 06:03 PM
Drifted as has Pistol (later tonight 1.5 to 4.4), but won well, only listening to commentary, but beaten in a photo only under a hands and heels ride (which is the risk when betting maidens), should improve lots.
Looked the winner coming into final furlong, RM certainly didnt give it his all to get it up.
cantspell
11-04-2012, 06:26 PM
Ahaly did win
cantspell
11-04-2012, 07:22 PM
Caprella 2nd every chance
JamTheEagle
11-04-2012, 07:25 PM
:rolleyes:
JamTheEagle
11-04-2012, 07:37 PM
Small each ways on Kid Suitor and Twice Red make up the losses - very tempted to put it all on Countrywide Flame which is an each way bet to nothing. Can't see why the form will be reversed? If only it was that simple...
JamTheEagle
11-04-2012, 07:39 PM
Likely to be another stupid pace on a tighter track - longer straight will play into his hands once again and he is up there with Hunt Ball for the best improved horse all season.
cantspell
11-04-2012, 07:45 PM
looking forward to Riverside, Hunt Ball, Medermit race should be a cracker
saul1664
11-04-2012, 09:26 PM
On an early tomorrow, but will be back in time for the racing, so may have other bets than these but these are my fancies so far
2.30 Grumeti
3.05 Riverside Theatre
3.40 Silver Adonis/Sherrif Hutton
4.50 Pepite Rose
5.25 Corkage
Would like to look at a place bet in Big Bucks race with 8 runners but haven't been through the others form yet.
Grumeti I didn't think came up the hill very well at Cheltenham after looking dangerous and can be more effective on a flatter Aintree track and I think will reverse the form here.
I really like Riverside Theatre but he had a hell of a hard race at nam and hasn't won over this distance, I'm still going to back him but am a tad worried.
Backing Pepite Rose as she sluiced up last time out with any amount in hand and can't be having Al Ferof or Menorah here.
Corkage won very easily last time out and was desperately unlucky in a big handicap the start before travelling well and being done on the line by one that came from nowhere, and I think is well priced at 18s last time I looked.
279d
JamTheEagle
11-04-2012, 09:34 PM
For me Grumeti's jumping let him down as much as the course and pace, the latter of which will be the same, if not faster. I personally don't think he will reverse form, even if I did there is no value in 7/2.
Small each ways on Shoegazer and Star of Angels in the 17:25 - 14/1 and 16/1.
Gooders
11-04-2012, 09:35 PM
Riverside Theatre my banker.
JamTheEagle
11-04-2012, 09:43 PM
Burton Port for me. Has the best race form (Gold Cup) and has Aintree form, once again each way bet to nothing. Cue disastrous runs from both!
LLCOOLSTEVE
11-04-2012, 09:53 PM
Burton Port for me. Has the best race form (Gold Cup) and has Aintree form, once again each way bet to nothing. Cue disastrous runs from both!
yup, cantsee why they would pull it out of the National if it didnt have an outstanding chance tomorrow
Gooders
11-04-2012, 09:57 PM
OK, maybe not my banker - will have to sleep on it!
I'll probably (:) ) be doing:
2.30 Countrywide Flame or Pearl Swan
3.05 Riverside Theatre or Burton Port
3.40 Offshore Account
4.15 Tanks For That
5.25 Corkage
Gooders
11-04-2012, 10:02 PM
Oh and definitely Odd Ball in the 8.25 at Wolverhampton - one of the horses that won me that grand a half a couple of weeks back. :)
Off to see Mr Power in Dublin next week to collect.
LLCOOLSTEVE
11-04-2012, 10:12 PM
OK, maybe not my banker - will have to sleep on it!
lol :)
Im kinda confused though as to why Henderson would put Burton Port in the race if he thought Riverside would win ....
JamTheEagle
11-04-2012, 11:36 PM
Bet of around £12k on Hunt Ball tonight, owners?
LLCOOLSTEVE
12-04-2012, 12:45 AM
Just reading AP McCoys autobiography and his first ever winner in the green and gold of JP MacManus was on Mayasta who is the damn (mother) of......Synchronised!
Gooders
12-04-2012, 07:56 AM
OK, maybe not my banker - will have to sleep on it!
I'll probably (:) ) be doing:
2.30 Countrywide Flame or Pearl Swan
3.05 Riverside Theatre or Burton Port
3.40 Offshore Account
4.15 Tanks For That
5.25 Corkage
I've gone off my selections in the 3.40, 4.15 and 5.25. :)
Will probably do Pearl Swan in the 2.30 - the commentators and even the race write-ups from Cheltenham didn't do his run justice - yes, he was under pressure and niggled along from miles out but he would definitely have been placed had he not fallen at the last and may even have got to the winner. I'll give him another chance I think.
I have the complete yips in the 3.05 - on the one hand I don't want to desert Riverside Theatre but on the other hand Burton Port did nothing wrong in the Gold Cup and has the proven stamina. Will probably come down on his side in the end.
cantspell
12-04-2012, 08:04 AM
Grumeti 230
Hunt Ball/Burton Port 305
Boxer Georg 340
Silk drum e/w 415
Will be on Al Ferof as it is the class horse in the Novice Chase and no Sprinter to bully it this time. I am very interested in Pepite Rose in the same race as have been following it since it started novice chasing, but it is a big jump in class today
others to follow
And let's hope Big Bucks makes it 17, which is an awesome achievement!
big fan of Pearl Swan but Dodging Bullets is apparently running very well at the moment.
A girl at work knows the guy who rides them both and he reckons Dodging Bullets will be the horse to beat.
Gooders
12-04-2012, 08:41 AM
Right, I've decided:
2.30 Pearl Swan
3.05 Riverside Theatre
4.15 Kid Cassidy
8.25 Odd Ball
I might have a saver on Burton Port to recover today's stake in the event that he wins.
Kid Cassidy didn't settle at all at Cheltenham but I'll give him another chance today, I think.
JamTheEagle
12-04-2012, 08:45 AM
Watch Free World win the 4.15 now I'm deserting him after Cheltenham. It's Son Of Flicka all over again!
JamTheEagle
12-04-2012, 09:26 AM
Pearl Swan non runner.
Gooders
12-04-2012, 10:23 AM
Blimey!
cantspell
12-04-2012, 10:45 AM
big fan of Pearl Swan but Dodging Bullets is apparently running very well at the moment.
A girl at work knows the guy who rides them both and he reckons Dodging Bullets will be the horse to beat.
I was going to do a little saver on Dodging Bullets as well as the Grumeti bet as I agree
JamTheEagle
12-04-2012, 11:25 AM
http://www.facebook.com/paddypower/posts/130301500434000 if you want Grumeti 6/1 limited time - £20 max
saul1664
12-04-2012, 11:32 AM
I wouldn't change much from yesterday, and am having a plethora of bets. First of all two tips (not from me)
3.05 Aintree Medermit (1pt win, 2pts place) @ 6.8/2.28
5.55 Wolverhampton Art Dzecko (1pt win, 2pts place) @ 5.4/1.92
Now to mine ...
Looked at Smad Place in the first for a place as he's the most likely one, you get to back Big Bucks at 1.2 or Smad Place to finish top 3 at 1.44, none appeal. Of course you could always double up everything with Big Bucks, but as having several bets don't want to **** them all up if he does manage to lose (and he will one day)
2.30 Aintree Grumeti @ 4.1
Can't get away from him, I know others think he will struggle, but just think the flatter track will suit, led over the last at Cheltenham and just didn't seem to be suited by the hill, I think he has a big chance here.
3.05 Aintree Riverside Theatre @ 4.4
It's a hard race, I'm not deserting him as I've backed him both times so owes me nothing and 4.4 is fair to factor any additional risk, will go double handed with Medermit in this one as well. Am worried that the Cheltenham run may take it's toll as he's been lightly raced in the past.
3.40 Aintree Silver Adonis (e/w) @ 14.5
3.40 Aintree Sheriff Hutton (e/w) @ 60
Know nothing about these, got tipped them up in the week, having minimum stakes each way for fun.
4.50 Aintree Pepite Rose @ 3.95
Seems to be coming in for support, I can't see how Al Ferof merits being 11/10 here after his last two runs, and can't get excited with Menorah even at 5/1, good safe jumper, showed significant improvement last time (wasn't a fantastic race though), but good enough to back here.
5.25 Aintree Corkage (e/w) @ 50
Unless I am a bit demented, isn't this a tad too big, won well last time out and unlucky second in a big handicap time before, cruising to the lead 2 out, to be done on the line. Yes, it's a big handicap, but seems to travel well in his races and able to stay up with the pace, I can think of worse 50/1 shots to back.
Away bets .... Away bets ...
3.20 Folkstone Dark Ages (lay) @ 2.4
Running in a seller, always run over 5f, now at 7f, which makes him enough of a doubt to oppose at short prices.
3.30 Newton Abbot Carrigmora King @ 1.98
Good form in a better grade, price shows obvious chance.
6.55 Stand Guard (lay) @ 1.76
Form in weak sellers but got slammed by Trans Sonic by 7 lengths at 4/11 last time, little downside, easy lay.
Good luck with these, might need it.
1f9e
saul1664
12-04-2012, 11:38 AM
Don't know why Corkage is 55/1, RP go 14, think might have a cardiac arrest if he comes over the last in front.
Flat Noodle
12-04-2012, 11:51 AM
Good luck to all :p
Gooders
12-04-2012, 11:57 AM
Did two Lucky15's in the end and following the withdrawal of Pearl Swan I settled on:
Countrywide Flame 2.30
Riverside Theatre 3.05
Kid Cassidy 4.15
Odd Ball 8.25
and
Dodging Bullets 2.30
Burton Port 3.05
Tanks For That 4.15
Odd Ball 8.25
I included Grumeti in my Placepot just in case and had my shrapnel on Son Of Flicka in the last.
Good luck guys.
JamTheEagle
12-04-2012, 12:34 PM
Riverside Theatre now 6/1 with paddy again on facebook - taking them both on, don't blame them!
cantspell
12-04-2012, 12:36 PM
Saul- I am no bookie, but I would price up Al Ferof at 11/10 if I were. I think the bookies have priced it up fairly.
I will take a look at those lays
I am on Free World 415 ew as it was going well when coming down at the last.
sampuds
12-04-2012, 12:36 PM
my lucky 15 E/W for Aintree:
2.30 Grumeti @3/1
3.05 Burton Port @9/2
3.40 My Way De Solzen @7/1
4.15 Kumbeshwar @15/2
good luck everyone :p
JamTheEagle
12-04-2012, 12:42 PM
Saul- I am no bookie, but I would price up Al Ferof at 11/10 if I were. I think the bookies have priced it up fairly.
I will take a look at those lays
I am on Free World 415 ew as it was going well when coming down at the last.
As I said, I'll be pissed off of it wins here - likely to be left with too much to do out the back which is a big mistake at Aintree.
cantspell
12-04-2012, 12:46 PM
I do like a lay, but I think I will give those ones a miss as the opposition is so poor in both races.
In the first one, there is only one other I can see that will run well
In the second, Transonic was the horse that beat it and it started that horse on a good run of form.
Good luck though.
saul1664
12-04-2012, 12:49 PM
Someone has 500K on big bucks at 1/5. Cash bet.
cantspell
12-04-2012, 01:08 PM
What a horse! I know it was made easier for win , but 17 wins in a row is superb!
Flat Noodle
12-04-2012, 01:09 PM
What a horse! I know it was made easier for win , but 17 wins in a row is superb!
So is Black Cavier ;)
Flat Noodle
12-04-2012, 01:10 PM
Someone has 500K on big bucks at 1/5. Cash bet.
Easiest 100k :eek:
JamTheEagle
12-04-2012, 01:12 PM
Horse of our era, monster.
saul1664
12-04-2012, 01:12 PM
So is Derivatives. :vader:
saul1664
12-04-2012, 01:13 PM
Easiest 100k :eek:
Apparent high street cash bet in Hills. Never know if these stories are true. Didn't even hit his flat spot.
Gooders
12-04-2012, 01:26 PM
For a bit of interest, I covered 3 each-way:
Won In The Dark (brought down)
Tidal Bay (severely hampered and lost all chance)
Poungach (just shit)
:D
Gooders
12-04-2012, 01:27 PM
Great Shot has been hammered in from 12/1 to 5/1 in Odd Ball's race so I've had a saver on it.
saul1664
12-04-2012, 01:31 PM
Late exchange support for Grumeti.
NO1FAN
12-04-2012, 01:36 PM
Shit Gottany O's :(
LLCOOLSTEVE
12-04-2012, 01:36 PM
hINTERLAND FELL AND HINDERED DODGING BULLETS
oops caps
LLCOOLSTEVE
12-04-2012, 01:38 PM
first 2 miles clear of rest
saul1664
12-04-2012, 01:38 PM
Get in.
Flat Noodle
12-04-2012, 01:38 PM
What a thriller to the line!
JamTheEagle
12-04-2012, 01:38 PM
Lucky backers, piss poor ride from Costello.
sampuds
12-04-2012, 01:39 PM
get in! :D
Gooders
12-04-2012, 01:41 PM
Well done Grumeti backers - you called it right. :p
JamTheEagle
12-04-2012, 01:41 PM
Why on earth did he not take it over to the stands when he had the chance, shocking.
Gooders
12-04-2012, 01:43 PM
Dodging doggers!
saul1664
12-04-2012, 01:44 PM
Well done Grumeti backers - you called it right. :p
Looked unlikely 2 out, think Countrywide Flame may have been in front too early.
1fbd
LLCOOLSTEVE
12-04-2012, 01:44 PM
Been chucking it down with snow at Folkestone wtf
saul1664
12-04-2012, 01:55 PM
Riverside Theatre drifting.
saul1664
12-04-2012, 02:04 PM
Diamond Harry being backed, Hunt Ball the Enigma here. Owner got fined for jumping on the horses back on one of his previous wins lol
LLCOOLSTEVE
12-04-2012, 02:13 PM
strong pace
LLCOOLSTEVE
12-04-2012, 02:13 PM
Hunt ball going v well
LLCOOLSTEVE
12-04-2012, 02:14 PM
and Medermit
LLCOOLSTEVE
12-04-2012, 02:16 PM
Burton Port 2nd :(
LLCOOLSTEVE
12-04-2012, 02:16 PM
Follow the plan wins at 50/1
Gooders
12-04-2012, 02:17 PM
There are times when I hate Horseracing - and this is one of them. FFS!
JamTheEagle
12-04-2012, 02:17 PM
Massive lay on Riverside Theatre makes up for Costello's mistake :lux:
Gooders
12-04-2012, 02:19 PM
Placepot is my best hope now.
saul1664
12-04-2012, 02:19 PM
Medermit would have won if he could have managed to jump any of the last six fences, thought he got third on the line but must have just missed the third place.
Flat Noodle
12-04-2012, 02:20 PM
Had an EW on Hunt Ball, thought it ran really well but then faded badly after the last jump and almost missed the place.... Phew
JamTheEagle
12-04-2012, 02:21 PM
Medermit would have won if he could have managed to jump any of the last six fences, thought he got third on the line but must have just missed the third place.
Story of that horses' life! Think the owners of Diamond Harry should call it a day, seems to hate racing.
saul1664
12-04-2012, 02:21 PM
Think Folkestone is about to be abandoned.
saul1664
12-04-2012, 02:22 PM
Had an EW on Hunt Ball, thought it ran really well but then faded badly after the last jump and almost missed the place.... Phew
Had Riverside Theatre and Medermit for a place, double whammy, was sure he got up there, but they never showed the finish again.
saul1664
12-04-2012, 02:23 PM
Story of that horses' life! Think the owners of Diamond Harry should call it a day, seems to hate racing.
Someone backed it. Was going well, but must have lost 10 to 15 lengths over the last 5. Fears about Riverside Theatre realised.
JamTheEagle
12-04-2012, 02:25 PM
They always seem to back the thing! Must have endless pots of gold.
Island Life 12/1 in the next and following saul with his Silver Adonis tip.
saul1664
12-04-2012, 02:26 PM
Missed the price on Carrigmora King, going off at 4/6, not really interested at that price, talking it up on ATR.
saul1664
12-04-2012, 02:27 PM
Folkestone abandoned just before my lay bet moo.
LLCOOLSTEVE
12-04-2012, 02:29 PM
would love to see My Way De Solzen win
JamTheEagle
12-04-2012, 02:31 PM
Cue Frankel drama!
cantspell
12-04-2012, 02:32 PM
Delighted with Grumeti result and laid Riverside so good day thus far
saul1664
12-04-2012, 02:33 PM
Missed the price on Carrigmora King, going off at 4/6, not really interested at that price, talking it up on ATR.
lol Fell. Lucky escape.
LLCOOLSTEVE
12-04-2012, 02:37 PM
Herons well ew at 33/1
Flat Noodle
12-04-2012, 02:37 PM
would love to see My Way De Solzen win
Following Steve on this
Flat Noodle
12-04-2012, 02:39 PM
Herons well ew at 33/1
And small ew on this too now :grrr:
Anything else, Steve? :)
LLCOOLSTEVE
12-04-2012, 02:40 PM
lol :)
I havent backed My Way De Solzen, but it was a fantastic horse in its prime, an old fav few years back.
Flat Noodle
12-04-2012, 02:41 PM
.........
Flat Noodle
12-04-2012, 02:41 PM
In other words, I've just thrown away my money... Just great :sob:
saul1664
12-04-2012, 02:43 PM
Shambles start.
LLCOOLSTEVE
12-04-2012, 02:43 PM
God jim McGrath is an awful commentator, why do the BBC stick with him?? fkn Aussie idiot
1db0
saul1664
12-04-2012, 02:45 PM
Sort it out.
LLCOOLSTEVE
12-04-2012, 02:45 PM
Cue Frankel drama!
Minor injury eh
LLCOOLSTEVE
12-04-2012, 02:51 PM
Herons well ew at 33/1
3rd :)
Flat Noodle
12-04-2012, 02:51 PM
In other words, I've just thrown away my money... Just great :sob:
:sob:
saul1664
12-04-2012, 02:52 PM
No good. Looked like Silver Adonis was travelling well 2 out and just stopped.
LLCOOLSTEVE
12-04-2012, 02:52 PM
another furlong might well have won too
LLCOOLSTEVE
12-04-2012, 02:53 PM
:sob:
we got 3rd you donut with a 33/1 each way bet
Flat Noodle
12-04-2012, 02:53 PM
3rd :)
:eek: :p thanks mate. Money back :)
saul1664
12-04-2012, 02:54 PM
Bugger. Medermit got beat into 4th by a nose. Urgh.
Flat Noodle
12-04-2012, 02:54 PM
Don't have coverage to see the race, only followed the live odds on BF and saw it was hopelessly drifting away :D
saul1664
12-04-2012, 02:55 PM
Hope the animal activists aren't going to go too crazy, half of the field fell over.
JamTheEagle
12-04-2012, 02:56 PM
another furlong might well have won too
Yep, got hampered 3 or 4 times in the race too. Nice shout.
LLCOOLSTEVE
12-04-2012, 02:58 PM
Don't have coverage to see the race, only followed the live odds on BF and saw it was hopelessly drifting away :D
no live comm anywhere??
LLCOOLSTEVE
12-04-2012, 02:59 PM
Yep, got hampered 3 or 4 times in the race too. Nice shout.
Thank you Mr Jam
Flat Noodle
12-04-2012, 03:01 PM
no live comm anywhere??
Couldn't be bothered. Just checking on my iPhone.
Tips for next race sir? :)
Thanks in advance :p
Tony Montana
12-04-2012, 03:08 PM
Silk drum decent each way shout
LLCOOLSTEVE
12-04-2012, 03:09 PM
Think Kumbeshwar will like Aintree compared to Cheltenham, might be well handicapped.
Flat Noodle
12-04-2012, 03:12 PM
Kumbeshwar it is :p
saul1664
12-04-2012, 03:14 PM
Got nothing in this one, just audio for the last two races. Meh.
Flat Noodle
12-04-2012, 03:20 PM
Kumbeshwar it is :p
4th, just missed the place :grrr:
saul1664
12-04-2012, 03:20 PM
Ending up a favourites day.
LLCOOLSTEVE
12-04-2012, 03:22 PM
Nice performance that
JamTheEagle
12-04-2012, 03:22 PM
As I said, I'll be pissed off of it wins here - likely to be left with too much to do out the back which is a big mistake at Aintree.
Weirdest Pricewise selection in a long time.
Flat Noodle
12-04-2012, 03:30 PM
Pepite Rose in the next @ 3/1
Off to bed now.
NO1FAN
12-04-2012, 03:31 PM
Had Cloudy Lane 8/1 and Edgardo Sol 6/1 in my L15 and Burton Port but only second still a decent return seeing as I wasn't going to bother today.
cantspell
12-04-2012, 03:36 PM
Damn backed Cloudy Lane at Cheltenham but deserted him
LLCOOLSTEVE
12-04-2012, 03:38 PM
at the prices surely you have to back Menorah in the next at Aintree??
Bobsta
12-04-2012, 03:40 PM
Just saw I backed a load of 100 to 1 shots each way whilst I was in McDonald's earlier and also had 20 quid on one of the favourites, turns out it was cloudy lane - result
saul1664
12-04-2012, 03:41 PM
at the prices surely you have to back Menorah in the next at Aintree??
Was bigger earlier, pretty confident on Pepite Rose.
saul1664
12-04-2012, 03:50 PM
Coming in for Menorah.
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