Next year's season tickets [Archive]

Passport

11-01-2001, 08:13 PM

Some people may not have noticed that yesterday's programme was advertising for NEXT season's season tickets and offerering apparently attractive prices 'the earlier you purchased'.
Obviously interested by this, I called the box office only to be advised (having been on hold for 15 minutes) that the cost of renewing my season ticket (Holmesdale Upper Tier) would be £260. To say I was bemused by this is to put it mildly. Last year I only paid £218, and this was in July. This year I'm being asked to pay £42 more in February. Heaven knows what I'll be charged if I leave it as late this year as I did last.

Would be interested to know what other BBS-ers think of this.....

Viking

11-01-2001, 08:24 PM

Can just add some perspective to the subject. Here in Sweden the"big"teams(average gates around 10,000) have all added, at least 20% on season tickets. One of the Stockholm clubs(who´s rebuilding the stadium) dubbled it! But the trick"sooner cheaper"is new to me.
Question. Do you seasoners get fre of charge and guaranteed seat at the cup games?

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arussell

11-01-2001, 08:40 PM

To answer that last one Viking - no - cup tickets are not included in season ticket prices - you pay on top for them - although you can reserve your seat in advance by filling in a voucher in the season ticket book.

Sounds like we're in for some big price hikes ! - so much for "free" incentives etc.

11-01-2001, 08:42 PM

I've yet to recieve anything in the post, but I heard last night that if you purchase next years s-t in Feb, it would be half price. Certainly the price of over £260 sounds a bit too much to be half price.

Passport

11-01-2001, 08:48 PM

And we all thought that Jordan was going to be more fan friendly.

This deal appears to be very 'Noades-esque'.....

Bungalow

11-01-2001, 09:43 PM

Even though it might sound like a good bit of marketing and favouring the fans etc, I'm not sure they should be using money for next year's season's tickets to cover this season's costs.

Neil the Eagle

11-01-2001, 09:45 PM

Let's wait and see what the paperwork says, shall we?

winners

11-01-2001, 09:46 PM

the price of season tickets hasnt gone up for about 5 years, and im sure we are one of the cheapest in the first division, and know for a fact, we are cheaper than Millwall.

Chillo

11-01-2001, 09:50 PM

Originally posted by Passport:
I called the box office .....

This is the same box office who have been almost impossible to get hold of recently and we have suggested (via BBS) than Simon Jordan needs to improve the staffs customer service approach.

As Neil says, let's wait and see; although the STs were due to be available first from 1st Jan, now mid Jan?

Snorwood Eagle

11-01-2001, 09:50 PM

Very true Neil. SJ is a good business man and has already attempted to make Selhurst a more attractive venue for the fans. I can't imagine that he would hike up the prices without some kind of incentive to us for doing so. I'm looking forward to finding out exactly what the deal is.

Oisin

11-01-2001, 09:52 PM

Are season tickets are ridiculously cheap compared with other clubs. The price rise will still give us value for money and raise half a million quid for the club.

Al From Bromley

11-01-2001, 09:57 PM

Stop whingeing y'all. The price of a season ticket at palace is a mere snip compared to our loftier rivals. Less than £12 a game in the Holmesdale. If we all gave £100 more a year .....

Goldberg Basher

11-01-2001, 09:58 PM

I would of thought this year's cup run would more than cover any price rise Jordan is thinking about.

Essexeagle

11-01-2001, 11:24 PM

Its amazing isn't it...

Yes we need to spend £Xm and buy X players - so do we all expect Jordan to fund absolutely everything out of his own pocket?

£260 is not expensive in any way for a season ticket - the money goes to the club doesn't it?

Lord Flange

12-01-2001, 12:42 AM

Agree absolutely. I am genuinely skint 90 percent of the time but would still be happy to pay even £300 instead of the £200 I paid this year for a season ticket as I believe that SJ's motives are honest and necessary if we are to help fund the continued progress of the club. If you cant afford it in one lump do it on direct debit for half a year . However I would expect another 10p of a pint in return Mr Jordan

TAK

12-01-2001, 12:58 PM

To be honest I've paid 305 for my ST for the last few years and whilst it would gall me to pay more I honestly couldn't complain about a 10 or 15% rise now that we can see that the money is being spent on the club and not going elsewhere.

Especially as performances are rising and therefore each game is more rewarding.

All I ask is that for what we pay in the old stand SJ has sorted the Palyers and Glaziers bars out but ignored the Stephensons.

Come on Simon SORT IT OUT!

Passport

12-01-2001, 01:39 PM

True, prices have been held for the last 3 years. However, a rise above inflation is still unjustified IMOP. A £40 hike to £260 represents an 18% rise. Especially when you consider the sparse conditions we have to put up with in the Holmesdale....

brighton_eagle

12-01-2001, 01:48 PM

A guy I used to work with paid more for his Brighton season ticket..........

Just a thought

Al From Bromley

12-01-2001, 01:50 PM

It's a bargain...where else could you get such entertainment for that price? The equivalent at Chelsea (God forbid) is about £850.

Frisky

12-01-2001, 05:48 PM

Especially when you consider the sparse conditions we have to put up with in the Holmesdale....[/B]

Simon Jordan's programme notes from Wednesday talked about improved bar/lounge facilities in the Holmesdale (upper tier). Plus moving admin and changing rooms into that stand. I wouldn't the surprised if the upper tier prices go up more than the average increase to allow for the better facilites.

Gillingham season tickets cost over £300 this season for average seats. Ours are a real bargain compared to that.

Dave

12-01-2001, 05:52 PM

Just to put it in perspective a little bit.

10,000 season tickets * £300 is only £3m a year in revenue. We have spent considerably more than twice that on new talent this year.

Beanie

12-01-2001, 06:14 PM

Has anybody actually had their mailing yet? According to what has been said the package is different, I don't know how, so perhaps comparing this year with next year is not comparing like with like. I have heard rumours that a match programme may be included or free/ reduced cup matches or that another long term deal could be on the cards. I don't know - may be totally wrong but until we get the details it's hard to make a fair comment.

Having said that - I do think our season tickets are a bargin. Mine cost me £190 - that's £8.26 a game - less than 50% of the match by match price. I'd happily see a price rise - point is I'm fortunate enough to be able to pay it. How about a basic price rise - but more imaginative concessions?

Axie

12-01-2001, 06:33 PM

Well 1/2 year seasons for juniors is £20 for 10 games.

You can't get more reasonable than that.

baroli

12-01-2001, 06:33 PM

The deal fore the past 4 years has been great and views from the Holmesdale are good. My Brighton neighbour is amazed at the price I pay for my son's season (only £80 this year) whereas he gets no concessions there.

I would say an above inflation rise would be acceptable, but would cap it at 20%

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Gaffer

12-01-2001, 06:48 PM

Regarding the Chelsea point, a fella here at work has had to fork out the equivalent of £50 per match for his new season ticket - arguably the biggest rip-off of all time.

Dave's point about revenue is also a most valid one. Sadly the prices must go up if we are to make serious progress.

Passport

12-01-2001, 08:18 PM

Prices don't necessarily have to go up to make progress. Increased crowds will bring in extra revenue and putting up prices may well put people off.

Personally, I would rather see us play in Div 1 than pay silly prices, as per Chelsea..

wombat

12-01-2001, 08:23 PM

Originally posted by Passport:
Prices don't necessarily have to go up to make progress. Increased crowds will bring in extra revenue and putting up prices may well put people off.

Personally, I would rather see us play in Div 1 than pay silly prices, as per Chelsea..
On your own there tightwad!

Bob S

12-01-2001, 08:28 PM

Just spoke to the club. Here's the deal:

Lower Holmesdale ticket £230. £20 discount if bought Jan/Feb, £10 disc Mar/Jun.

Additional £50 upgrade gives:
15% discount on coach travel
£20 Club voucher
Guest Ticket voucher
E-mail match preview
£20 cash back for each new season ticketholder introduced
£10 discount on 2002/2003 seasonticket if we do not finish in top 6 2001/2
Free matchday programme for all home games
Free programme binder
Exclusive option to prebook cup tickets
Exlusive access to 0800 number (although they didn't know what that was for!)

Sounds like a fairly good deal to me. Not much increase in the S/T price - £210 with the discount is less than £10 a game. And for the extra £50, the Club voucher and matchday programmes alone are worth £66.

The Planet

12-01-2001, 09:17 PM

I think this is pretty good. OK, you have to pay up 6 months in advance to keep the increase to 'just' 5%, but given that our season ticket prices are pretty low by comparison with most clubs, it seems pretty fair.

The special package is also quite imaginative. £50 for £66's worth of stuff which won't cost the club £50 - so quite a bit of profit for CPFC there - and some service enhancements, although wouldn't it be nice if service could be excellent for everyone...

Snorwood Eagle

12-01-2001, 09:54 PM

Sounds great to me. Am I right in thinking that it will cost £210 in the Holmesdale Lower if we buy them now? If so, thats already £20 off the price, and therefore the £50 upgrade is only a £30 upgrade! Think about it: if you also buy a shirt for next season, it will work out surely at no more than £20 for the NEW shirt (using the club shop voucher!) Programmes too! All these 'smaller' costs build up over a season, and this is a great incentive to put our money back into the club, as well as great value for money. Nice one Mr.Jordan!

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Lord Fruity

12-01-2001, 09:55 PM

The deal sounds excellent to me. I'm certainly up for it. But then again I would of renewed my S/T if we had gone all the way through this season with out winning a game and the prices were still increased a little.

Lets face it, we all love this Club and although some of us may grumble a bit about the prices of the season Tickets, we will still buy them.

As for old SJ, he's doing fair by us at the moment. And it would seem that he is going to reward the loyalty of the Season ticket holders, by offering them another good deal.

Anyway, enough of that, see you all there again next season.

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Neil the Eagle

12-01-2001, 10:54 PM

I like the sound of this overall, although it strikes me as over complicated - no wonder Robbie didn't want to explain it to me when I was in the Box Office an hour ago!

I am disappointed that they've not included the home leg of the 1st round of the Worthington's Cup somewhere, surely if this were part of the season ticket we would get more than the embarrassing 5,000-odd that bother.

That is a VERY minor gripe tho' - overall its a good deal which I shall be going for.

Stellavista

13-01-2001, 03:35 AM

Theis deal, for me, shows Jordan's strengths.
We've all had a plug at him for one reason (awful dress sense), or another (talking unintelligable bol*ocks), this season, but this is a sound piece of marketing.
Well done, Chairman, we're moving in the right direction.
Now, what about the dreadful concourse facilities in the Holmesdale Lower Tier?
I wondered about the dressing room facilities moving into the Holmesdale.
It would make perfect sense, if Jordan was going to buy Selhurst and redevelop the main stand.

Dai the Swansea Eagle

13-01-2001, 05:26 AM

Originally posted by Neil the Eagle:
I am disappointed that they've not included the home leg of the 1st round of the Worthington's Cup somewhere, surely if this were part of the season ticket we would get more than the embarrassing 5,000-odd that bother.

That is a very good call Neil, perhaps to charge season ticket holders for three cup games and then offer us a discount if the three are not played on our next season ticket is a way of improving attendances while helping fan relations.

Brett

13-01-2001, 09:38 PM

I cant believe people are comparing season ticket prices between Chelsea and Palace. Its totally irrelevent.

Ours are not a bargain. I'd say for the fare we are served and normal league opposition, the Palace structure is about right.

Chelsea on the other hand, although in the Premiership, still rip their fans off. Thats where the injustice is.

I dont think ours are a bargain and will never look at it that way. They are the right price and just beneath the barrier where they could potential kill the elasticity of the local market.

I prefer to look at Man Utd as a guide. For the equivalent of my seat in the Arfur, that seat at Old Trafford would cost £375. It is £125 more but look at the entertainment you get. Plus you get certain cup matches free, including at least one Champions League match.

I think Simon Jordan is on pretty risky ground here if he thinks that Palace season ticket holders will stomach much more crap from another wide eyes Chairman.

You just keep dumping on ST's and expect the same number to keep renewing, regardless of the price hike. To upgrade for £50 is ludicrous, SJ knows this hence the above inflation rise for buying in January!!

I fear that if I leave buying my ST until July I could be paying upto £400 for it. £17.39 to watch Crewe, Grimsby, Tranmere and the like will definately be too much for me to stomach.

I'll retire to my wireless in that case.

Its a shame that Jordan doesnt realise that gate reciepts mean nothing in football, its the peripheral sales that make the money.

Would you like Martin Edwards phone number?

Dorking .Eagle

15-01-2001, 02:42 PM

I think it is a great deal -
the earlier you buy it the cheaper it is - not many clubs would do it on such a grand scale

I sit in the upper tier and for a couple of extra quid per game, I get a view of the Jumbotron, and a new lounge bar.

Also as someone who always buys a programme and binders, I'll be sving money on that, plus have 2/3 of the price off a new "le coq" shirt. (which are cheaper than any other clubs shirts by £10)

Gooders

15-01-2001, 02:48 PM

Our prices have been pretty much static for years now. The kids prices are great.

I don't think an increase is unfair at this time.

My problem though is that one of my boys has now turned 16 so, even though he's still in full-time study, I guess I'll be paying full whack for him next season?

bucketbongeagle

15-01-2001, 03:09 PM

Could someone answer a stupid question for me :
I go to about 75% of home matches and every season consider a season ticket but don't go for it as I always go with different numbers of people, basically I try to bring along as many people as possible and can proudly say that I have over the years got numerous people following Palace. So my question is say me and my Dad get season tickets for next season (which financial makes sense) , what happens when I want to bring my mate, girlfriend, nephew etc, what do other ST holders do ?

TAK

15-01-2001, 03:10 PM

Originally posted by Brett:
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I fear that if I leave buying my ST until July I could be paying upto £400 for it. £17.39 to watch Crewe, Grimsby, Tranmere and the like will definately be too much for me to stomach.

I'll retire to my wireless in that case.

Bye then, nice knowing you http://www.cpfc.org/ubb/wink.gif

Maxwell Eagle

15-01-2001, 05:23 PM

Sorry Brett but I really do think you are on your own. I've thought for at least the past 7 years that we have been getting a bargain for our season tickets. You chose to ignore the posts quoting the cost of Brighton, Gillingham etc for a ST, then make a ridiculous comparison to Manure - who admittedly are excellent value if you like going to the theatre !
Our prices have barely increased in recent history and this new package looks exceptional value again, with both the club and the fan benefitting.
Well done Mr Jordan.

Oisin

15-01-2001, 06:35 PM

Originally posted by Gooders:
Our prices have been pretty much static for years now. The kids prices are great.

I don't think an increase is unfair at this time.

My problem though is that one of my boys has now turned 16 so, even though he's still in full-time study, I guess I'll be paying full whack for him next season?

No you won't. Get a letter from the school and he'll get the student rate ticket which is about the same as a kids. He can have this t=rate until he leaves university.

wombat

15-01-2001, 06:42 PM

Originally posted by Brett:

I prefer to look at Man Utd

If that's how you feel!

Tomahawks

15-01-2001, 07:04 PM

Well said Brett. I agree.

For starters my season ticket went up £25 last year so not sure why people are saying it they have been frozen (£240 to £265 - gallery).

Also why do I want to pay extra for what, as Brett says, is very average fair. OK we've has a bit of excitemnt with the wothington but look at all the sh*ite we've has to watch this year...grimsby, sheff utd, burnley, stockport plus the equally disappoiting losses to portsmouth , blackburn and forest.

I coulnt give a monkeys uncle about reading the programme or any other incentives. if jordan gets this wrong there could well be a large number of people following brett to their radio.

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Gooders

15-01-2001, 07:09 PM

Thanks Oisin.

Yes, prices went up last year but I think I'm right in saying that they were frozen for a good while before that.

We're in the first division and our prices are probably about average for that division. It's not Jordan's fault that most of the teams at Selhurst tend to play industrial football (including us!)

Dave

15-01-2001, 07:14 PM

if jordan gets this wrong there could well be a large number of people following brett to their radio.

If the groundswell of opinion on the BBS is anything to go by it will be a success.

Last year we sold 9,500 season tickets after an horrendus year.

This year we must be looking at 12,000 and I think we will get it

Passport

15-01-2001, 07:17 PM

This is all just speculation anyway. Let's wait until we now what the deal is for certain, then comment.

Worthing Eagle

15-01-2001, 07:28 PM

my student season ticket was a bargain; just £96 in the lower holmesdale.

Best £96 I've ever spent, although including cup games, programmes, food and travelling from Worthing or Hendon its probably nearer £300.

Worth every penny, and still nearly half a season to go!! I LOVE PALACE!

The Planet

15-01-2001, 08:28 PM

Brett is displeased:

I dont think ours are a bargain and will never look at it that way. They are the right price and just beneath the barrier where they could potential kill the elasticity of the local market.

I prefer to look at Man Utd as a guide. For the equivalent of my seat in the Arfur, that seat at Old Trafford would cost £375. It is £125 more but look at the entertainment you get. Plus you get certain cup matches free, including at least one Champions League match.

I think Simon Jordan is on pretty risky ground here if he thinks that Palace season ticket holders will stomach much more crap from another wide eyes Chairman.

You just keep dumping on ST's and expect the same number to keep renewing, regardless of the price hike. To upgrade for £50 is ludicrous, SJ knows this hence the above inflation rise for buying in January!!

I fear that if I leave buying my ST until July I could be paying upto £400 for it. £17.39 to watch Crewe, Grimsby, Tranmere and the like will definately be too much for me to stomach.

I'll retire to my wireless in that case.

Its a shame that Jordan doesnt realise that gate reciepts mean nothing in football, its the peripheral sales that make the money.

Would you like Martin Edwards phone number?

So Brett:
Season tickets are the right price but we are being dumped on none the less?

First, what price would be acceptable to you?

Second, are you saying that you will not support the team until it is playing in the Champions League? I'm afraid that this is what you are implying.

Tomahawks, no-one is being forced to buy the upgrade package. It's simply there for people who, like me, buy the programme. I appreciate being able to make the choice whether to pay now or on a game-by-game basis. How am I being insulted by being given that choice?

Can you really say that this has been a 'nothing' season? The volatility of the quality of the game is part of going to football. Surely we have just continued the journey we have been post-Mr Burns. For me, last Wednesday more than paid for our dismal performances at the start of the season.

Tomahawks, what could SJ reasonably offer you that would make you a happy man?

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Eagle

15-01-2001, 09:57 PM

I really think that this isn't a bad deal at all offered by Jordan.
As someone has already said you don't have to have the upgrade, it is optional, therefore meaning if you don't have the upgrade your season ticket will be £10-£30 dearer than this season.
Looking at the upgrade it looks a good deal to me because you'll be getting more back than what you are paying and that's not forgetting the discounts we'll get throughout the season with it.
I'll definately be re-newing mine next season and probably along with the upgrade.

Passport

16-01-2001, 04:45 AM

To bucketbongeagle, technically you are not allowed to loan your season ticket to other people for one off games. However, everyone does it from time to time and you are never going to get caught.. i can never see the day that the club starts asking ST's for ID at the turnstyles...

..and if you want to bring additional people you have to phone the box office in advance and ask for seats next to yours..

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CPFC Cheerleader Observer

17-01-2001, 12:14 AM

Same here. For people that goto most Home games and also goto cup games at Selhurst and also buy a programme for each game, its worth the upgrade. I know I'll go for it since £2 (or more sometimes) a game for a programme does add up if you endup going to like 20- 30 games a season.

Pete B

17-01-2001, 12:38 AM

Originally posted by Brett:

I prefer to look at Man Utd as a guide. For the equivalent of my seat in the Arfur, that seat at Old Trafford would cost £375. It is £125 more but look at the entertainment you get.

For the past 6 years the total cost of my seat in the Upper Teir Gallery has been £960. For the pleasure and (mainly) heartache I have had for that money, I think it has been incredible value - albeit part of the reason why we got into such a financial mess in my view.

As for the issue of entertainment, I would say that for the most part true football fans do not go to be entertained each week. Yes we would all love to play one touch football and thrash teams 4-0 every week, but in thirty years of watching this team, we have yet to achieve that - even out two most successful teams of 1978/9 and 1990/91 won most games by the odd goal and were not pretty to watch.

Most Palace games that I watch are pure hell and when we are winning I am wishing the minutes away.

Going to Palace is much more than the 90 minutes on the field - its the anticipation on the Friday night/Saturday morning, the beers before and after, analyising the game over and over again with your mates in the puband then the gloating or piss taking back at work on the Monday.

£300 a year for 23 games is superb value and still would be if it was double the price of a season ticket a Man Utd.

Ian of Chatham

17-01-2001, 12:55 AM

Originally posted by Brett:
I think Simon Jordan is on pretty risky ground here if he thinks that Palace season ticket holders will stomach much more crap from another wide eyes Chairman.

You just keep dumping on ST's and expect the same number to keep renewing, regardless of the price hike. To upgrade for £50 is ludicrous, SJ knows this hence the above inflation rise for buying in January!!

In principal I agree with you Brett, we all love the Palace and even though I would be happy to take up the offer to renew in January just because of that, it cannot be assumed that it would be the same for every single season ticket holder. Jordan who is doing a good job by the way, must realise that fans don't have bottomless pockets, Noades failed to realise this when he was in charge and anyone who goes back and read the old Eagle Eye/Palace Echo fanzines during his reign would realise that there were many gripes about overcharging at the time.

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rashid

21-01-2001, 01:59 AM

It might make it more palatable if the direct debit was to be interest free.

Lets face it, if we are begining payments in Jan/Feb, then money is being received by the club six months in advance of the season, and presumably the payment streams from the revenue will be spread out over the following eight to nine months.

I am normally skint in May when I renew
(two tickets), and accept that sticking it on my plastic is a necessary evil, however at least this is "pay as you play". I would not customarily pay for something six months before receiving the goods.

Brett

21-01-2001, 04:39 AM

I think the point most people are missing is about the general increase, not just the ludicrous and impossible 'Gold' upgrade.

To renew in January or February means you have just a £15-30 increase on last season. Just?? What about those who buy on direct debit? Who just finished paying for theirs at Christmas?

Generally most people renew in June or July, when the games are over, the away games are over and the standard '2point4 children' family have just recovered from the previous Christmas spending.

This year, if you dare buy your season ticket when you normally do, you are risking anything upto a 60% increase (conviniently prices for months after Feb have yet to be decided).

You must also look at the BBS as NOT being typical of the core Palace support. Though we have over 2000 members, how many belong to one person?
And, what is the difference in socio economic terms between the average BBSer and the average Palace ST?

Quite large I would say.

Some people scrape the barrel as it is to buy season tickets, especially families who either want to go together or not at all.

How many people last season moaned about the benefits included in your season ticket package?

They are the same as this season. Yet everybody is applauding the lack of thought going into this idea. Your season ticket next year will have be even worse value next season than it was this season, yet Alexander and Jordan are hailed.

The propaganda will state an increase in season tickets, although these figures would be easy to manipulate to suit.

Many wont renew in January.

Which will mean many wont renew.

Bravo Jordan.

selhurstparkflyer

21-01-2001, 05:11 PM

fair enough
if i took up the £50 upgrade then i might be better informed!!
strange there is no info on club site though!

Eagles Fan

21-01-2001, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by CPFC Cheerleader Observer:
Same here. For people that goto most Home games and also goto cup games at Selhurst and also buy a programme for each game, its worth the upgrade. I know I'll go for it since £2 (or more sometimes) a game for a programme does add up if you endup going to like 20- 30 games a season.

Me and my mate go to most Palace home games and cup games and travel away with palace on the away coach. We buy a programme every match.

So the Eagle Gold package upgrade would be very beneficial to us. BUT the deal excludes juniors. We both are 14 so does that make us juniors and therefore illegitimate for the package??? Help. http://www.cpfc.org/ubb/frown.gif

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CPFC Cheerleader Observer

21-01-2001, 05:20 PM

Good point.

Apparently according to the Programme yesterday, If any season ticket holder has not received an application form through the post by the West Brom game, then you should call the box office.

I'm still waiting for mine.....

carlislemike

21-01-2001, 05:57 PM

Originally posted by CPFC Cheerleader Observer:
Same here. For people that goto most Home games and also goto cup games at Selhurst and also buy a programme for each game, its worth the upgrade. I know I'll go for it since £2 (or more sometimes) a game for a programme does add up if you endup going to like 20- 30 games a season.

I have to agree here. seeing most home matches this season, the up grde is worth it for the progs alone almost. Plus, I want to add on an extra two season tickets this year. Given the £20 voucher etc, I'll be in pocket thanks to SJ. OK, this year I can afford it, next year may be another situation. In terms of inflation, the base price is not inflationary compared to beer, petrol and my kebab and chips, all of which have shot through the ceiling in the last two years.