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geeza

06-02-2006, 02:01 PM

Apparently Moyes signed Kroldrup without going to
see him himself, took the advice of a european scout
working for the club. A £5.1 million bid was lodged
and Udinese the Italian club who Kroldrup was
playing for couldn't believe their luck and
immediately accepted Everton's bid.

Only after the player was signed and all the
neccessary paperwork had been completed, and the
player himself had completed his first training
session with his new team mates did Moyes begin to
smell a rat.

Moyes was apparently totally unimpressed with what
he had seen and it was only then after he made
enquiries with the scout that it dawned on him.
Everton had signed the WRONG player!!!

The player the scout had watched had been Kroldrup's
centre-back partner!

This was why the Everton bid was immediately
successful and they (Udinese)were it has been
reported, totally amazed with the size of the bid.

So, Moyes now had a problem, he had a centre-back he
knew was not good enough for the Premiership, he
also needed to off-load him and get back if possible
the club's £5.1 million.

How was he going to do this without losing face with
the Everton fans. The first thing he did was report
to the press that Kroldrup was injured, he did in
fact have a slight injury but not enough to keep him
out for 3 months ,which is what happened.

Eventually through pressure from local phone-ins,
fan groups and local and national press asking
questions about this £5.1 million invisible man, and
also because of the club's injury list, Weir was
injured etc, he eventually had to play him against
Villa at Villa Park.

It was there that David Moyes worst fears were
realised, Kroldrup had a stinker, was out of his
depth and Moyes knew it.

The problem now was that other managers had now seen
Kroldrup's non-performance so there was no chance of
them getting back their £5.1 million- and he knew
it.

It has been recently reported that Florentina have
put in a bid for £3.6 million, my source tells me
that is in fact bull, they have offered Everton 1
million Euros- which is approximately £700,000.

An agreement has been reached with Florentina to
release to the media that the figure is £3.6
million, mainly, to save face at Everton Football
Club.

So, there you have it, mismanagement on a grand
scale which goes to show how EFC went from being
called the Mersey Millionaires in the sixty's to the
total shambles which the club is today.

Moyes apparently blames Chief Executive Wyness, he
blames the european scout, others within the club
blame Chairman Bill Kenwright.

http://www.youtube.com/w/PER-CANT-ED?v=Jq4iTuilqZ4&search=Everton

geeza

06-02-2006, 02:20 PM

oops just to let you know, that is a video of the player in question training LMFAO

The Omen

06-02-2006, 02:28 PM

Lets not laugh too hard...

We have had a few signings like this - especially during our Venables era.

Everton, 9 unbeaten and played in the Champs League this year - I would accept that mistake for a bit of their success.

If the story is true though, it would amaze me. 5.1m pounds and a manager who doesn't check the player out properly - if I was his chairman, I would sack him for that!

GreatGonzo

06-02-2006, 02:32 PM

Question is who is the player they 'should' have signed?

The Omen

06-02-2006, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by GreatGonzo
Question is who is the player they 'should' have signed?

If you read it... it says his brother.

Actually... no it doesn't. :)

Don't know where I got that from!

kolinkins

06-02-2006, 02:59 PM

Agger? who has ended up at Liverpool. Double laugh.

geeza

06-02-2006, 03:12 PM

it makes sense though, eh:D

RashtheSmash2

06-02-2006, 05:44 PM

Yeh,lets laugh at Everton...............like we wouldn't swap positions with them tommorrow.:rolleyes:

foetus eagle

06-02-2006, 05:52 PM

David Moyes looks like Moe from the Simpsons.

thecount

06-02-2006, 06:21 PM

Absolute Bullshit! He's an international defender ffs!! He was playing in the top league of a country renowned for the quality of the defending. As for the video clip, wtf does that prove?!?!!?!?!?!

Oddjob

06-02-2006, 06:25 PM

Yeah, lets all laugh at the team who paid an agents fee and got Tim Cahill for a couple of million..........how much is he worth now?

still gutted about that

Another Viking

06-02-2006, 06:27 PM

Ha ha ...

RDSdaEAGLE

06-02-2006, 06:41 PM

Originally posted by thecount
Absolute Bullshit! He's an international defender ffs!! He was playing in the top league of a country renowned for the quality of the defending. As for the video clip, wtf does that prove?!?!!?!?!?!

They didn't see him play though, he was signed after watching videos of his performances.

I think we signed Kaviedes in exactly the same way.

20f4

RickyB

06-02-2006, 06:42 PM

I'd love to know if this was true...

dougdeep

06-02-2006, 06:48 PM

http://img9.picsplace.to/img9/6/gerrard.gif

Golf Boy

06-02-2006, 08:11 PM

Originally posted by kolinkins
Agger? who has ended up at Liverpool. Double laugh.

Agger didn't play for Udinese.

Golf Boy

06-02-2006, 08:22 PM

Originally posted by thecount
Absolute Bullshit! He's an international defender ffs!! He was playing in the top league of a country renowned for the quality of the defending. As for the video clip, wtf does that prove?!?!!?!?!?!

The guy is a regular in the Danish team ( remember them -- they beat us 4-1 ). Played 4 seasons in Udinese playing 30 games in the season that they qualified for the champions league. Yeah he must be so sh1t:rolleyes: I wouldn't mind him for 700 000 insted of any of our defenders, who by the way wouldn't get near the Danish team.

CarlosTheFinger

06-02-2006, 08:23 PM

I wasn't convinced that the story was true but the video clip leaves me in no doubt.

Cheers Concluseyboys,

Carlos

CarlosTheFinger

06-02-2006, 08:24 PM

Originally posted by Oddjob
Yeah, lets all laugh at the team who paid an agents fee and got Tim Cahill for a couple of million..........how much is he worth now?

still gutted about that

I'm not. I always have and always will look on the Cahill incident with pride.

Cheers Principleboys,

Carlos

kolinkins

06-02-2006, 09:08 PM

Originally posted by RDSdaEAGLE
They didn't see him play though, he was signed after watching videos of his performances.

I think we signed Kaviedes in exactly the same way.

We signed Zohar that way. Kavi was on trial for three weeks before we signed him.

ZOHAR

06-02-2006, 09:17 PM

Hehe suckers :D

Dartford Lad

06-02-2006, 09:19 PM

Originally posted by RickyB
I'd love to know if this was true...

It's definitely true. It's also another reason why Everton wouldn't release any funds for new players in January.

It happens quite frequently. Celtic did the same with the Centre Back Rafael who was bought by John Barnes, Man City did it with Vuoso and Sunderland did it with Milton Nunez time they were in the Premiership. Its quite amazing how much money is wasted when you really think about it. :eek:

PhilD

06-02-2006, 09:29 PM

I'd be surprised if any team would be quite careless enough to sign the wrong player by mistake. Kroldrup is regarded as a pretty decent defender in Italy and played a big part in the Udinese team which finished 4th last season. Maybe they paid over the odds for him, but I reckon he'll do alright if they give him a decent chance.

I believe that Villa signed Savo Milosevic on the basis of a video...

Golf Boy

06-02-2006, 09:31 PM

So he left Udinese whom he played for when they qualified for the champions league. Now Fiorentina ( 4th in serie A ) have him. Why would top teams in Serie A want him if he was cr@p? Last time i looked the Italian league was of quite a high standard. Maybe it's Everton who have the problem

Time_Warp

06-02-2006, 09:37 PM

Watched Mr Kroldrup a lot and in my opinion he is a decent player, maybe Everton did not get the star they thought they would but it was by no means the flop of the century, he's an international defender not some unheard of South American.

CarlosTheFinger

06-02-2006, 09:44 PM

Originally posted by Dartford Lad
It's definitely true. It's also another reason why Everton wouldn't release any funds for new players in January.

It happens quite frequently. Celtic did the same with the Centre Back Rafael who was bought by John Barnes, Man City did it with Vuoso and Sunderland did it with Milton Nunez time they were in the Premiership. Its quite amazing how much money is wasted when you really think about it. :eek:

There may have been excuses for Nunez and Vuoso but John Barnes has no defence for signing a player called Rafael Scheidt and expecting him not to live up to his name:D

Cheers Scheidtyboys,

Carlos

Dartford Lad

07-02-2006, 08:40 AM

Per Kroldrup's parting shot at Everton was that there is no place for 'cultured' defenders in the Premiership! :D

Neil the Eagle

07-02-2006, 08:51 AM

Originally posted by kolinkins
We signed Zohar that way. Kavi was on trial for three weeks before we signed him.

No we didn't. Zohar went on the club's tour of Finland, before he was signed and I believe he scored the winner in one friendly. We had a couple of games to look at him.

kolinkins

07-02-2006, 08:54 AM

Originally posted by Neil the Eagle
No we didn't. Zohar went on the club's tour of Finland, before he was signed and I believe he scored the winner in one friendly. We had a couple of games to look at him.

My bad. But I remember Coppell saying that he made a mistake with the Zohar signing, and he would never sign a player based on a video again.

sydnsteve

07-02-2006, 11:29 AM

Zohar did have skill. He just had no application.

Dartford Lad

07-02-2006, 11:42 AM

Originally posted by sydnsteve
Zohar did have skill. He just had no application.

He didn't like the physical aspect of the Premier League either.

Neil the Eagle

07-02-2006, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by kolinkins
My bad. But I remember Coppell saying that he made a mistake with the Zohar signing, and he would never sign a player based on a video again.

Well it wasn't 'solely' based on the video. I seem to remember that old Itzik did get injured on that tour, thus maybe Coppell meant he didn't have long enough to assess him on trial and relied on the video.

1f76

kolinkins

07-02-2006, 11:53 AM

Originally posted by Neil the Eagle
Well it wasn't 'solely' based on the video. I seem to remember that old Itzik did get injured on that tour, thus maybe Coppell meant he didn't have long enough to assess him on trial and relied on the video.

Much like Kavi then. Video leading to trial, leading to signing.

danibutcher

07-02-2006, 11:54 AM

I'm sure Everton have got better or equal form to chelsea.(Past 6/8 games)

welshneil

07-02-2006, 12:32 PM

Who was the bloke Graeme Souness signed at Southampton on the basis of a hoax call from a supposedly top footballer? Put the player on and he couldn't even kick a ball and pulled him straight off again!

Great Lombardi

07-02-2006, 12:40 PM

Popester

07-02-2006, 12:41 PM

Wasnt it Bosko Balaban who was signed by John Gregory at Villa for about £6m based on a video and barely played.

forsells no1 fan

08-02-2006, 09:32 PM

Per Kroldrup has criticised the standard of The Premiership after being labelled an expensive flop during his time at Everton.

The Denmark international cost the Merseysiders £5 million in June but was moved on to Fiorentina in January after making only one league appearance for David Moyes's side.

After previously playing for Udinese, Kroldrup is now back in Serie A and looking to rebuild his career.

"I still feel I could have done well in the Premier League," the 26-year-old defender told Ekstra Bladet.

"Technical qualities are much more important in Italy.

"I am used to coaches and fans who prefer that you play yourselves out of trouble and pass to a team-mate."

Sky Sports

jazman

08-02-2006, 09:40 PM

Originally posted by The Omen
Everton, 9 unbeaten and played in the Champs League this year - I would accept that mistake for a bit of their success.

:p

Golf Boy

09-02-2006, 08:13 PM

I see the guy who was not good enough for Everton has just played for Fiorentina where they beat Inter

krackers

09-02-2006, 08:33 PM

i am surprised people are so sceptical of this....

remember when luther blisset went to Italy out of the blue....well rumour has it a scout was sent to "watch that decent black guy" playing in the watford team at the time, unfortunately for them luther blissett banged in a hatrick and john barnes had a quiet game.......the rest as they say....

GrayP41ace

10-02-2006, 01:34 PM

I remember Liverpool placed a £4 million pound bid for a player called Didier Baptiste (If I remember rightly) based on an 'agent' showing videos of the 'player' training and playing in competetive matches for a team called . .

Wait for it.....

Harchester United (those of you who watch or have watched DreamTeam on sky will know who they are)

Not entirely sure if this was true but at the time, I read that apparantley they only 'realised' just in time when the 'agent' showed them a clip of him in action against Liverpool to which the manager said he didn't remember Baptiste playing against them , and suddenly smelt a rat. :D:D :lux:

Away Day Eagle

10-02-2006, 02:14 PM

Originally posted by GrayP41ace
I remember Liverpool placed a £4 million pound bid for a player called Didier Baptiste (If I remember rightly) based on an 'agent' showing videos of the 'player' training and playing in competetive matches for a team called . .

Wait for it.....

Harchester United (those of you who watch or have watched DreamTeam on sky will know who they are)

Not entirely sure if this was true but at the time, I read that apparantley they only 'realised' just in time when the 'agent' showed them a clip of him in action against Liverpool to which the manager said he didn't remember Baptiste playing against them , and suddenly smelt a rat. :D:D :lux:

Quality.

Who was Liverpool's manager

Essexeagle

11-02-2006, 08:40 AM

Urban myth.

It was the News of the World who printed a story about Liverpool being interested in Baptiste after a hack overheard someone talking about Dream Team in a bar.

It was then picked up by the Observer and the Times, and then Liverpool's Clubcall.

The club had nothing to do with it.

Jim Cannon

11-02-2006, 04:35 PM

Originally posted by Dartford Lad
He didn't like the physical aspect of the Premier League either.

But he did like taking pens though. Shame he wasn't very good at them :D

RashtheSmash2

12-02-2006, 01:37 PM

I expect geeza would have wet himself laughing at the antics at Goodison yesterday. Third choice keeper sent off after eight minutes so reduced to ten men. Four goals disallowed, the most abject refereeing and assistant refereeing performances and yet........and yet........they still won. Meanwhile at Hillsborough no one was laughing ....at all.

geeza

12-02-2006, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by RashtheSmash2
I expect geeza would have wet himself laughing at the antics at Goodison yesterday. Third choice keeper sent off after eight minutes so reduced to ten men. Four goals disallowed, the most abject refereeing and assistant refereeing performances and yet........and yet........they still won. Meanwhile at Hillsborough no one was laughing ....at all.
:angel:

Clapham Grand

12-02-2006, 01:51 PM

294

They might well make Europe now

the one

12-02-2006, 02:08 PM

I'm jealous that they can make mistakes like that wasting loads of money with no problem. Yeah we could laugh at Everton but they're the team who played in Europe this season and, you never know, could do so next season.

Then again they're scousers so HAHA :hi: