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Wine Gumz
20-03-2006, 08:05 PM
just because sombody actually knows somthing about football and dosnt just nod there head and agree they have a go at dowie. hansen is a moaning wan*er, and dixon like le saux and all the others havnt a clue and are only there because of there pasts. dowie what a legend!:p
Ben H
20-03-2006, 08:10 PM
Most of the staff at Dixons don't know what they're doing.
Oddjob
20-03-2006, 08:11 PM
Except sell you bloody extended warranty you don't want
Watson's My Cat
20-03-2006, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by Ben H
Most of the staff at Dixons don't know what they're doing.
and Hanson only did that 'MMmbop' before puberty descended upon them and they faded into obscurity.
Sussex Eagle
20-03-2006, 08:12 PM
Only just realised the game was on when I saw this thread, what was said?
Diggers digs in?
20-03-2006, 10:31 PM
Dowie had the nerve to disagree with a point dixon or hansen had made. There was increduilty! Imagine a pundit with conflicting opinion!
GreatGonzo
20-03-2006, 10:38 PM
Does anyone know what the point was?
Watson's My Cat
20-03-2006, 10:43 PM
Originally posted by GreatGonzo
Does anyone know what the point was?
Don't remember. Not that you'd contradict it, anyway... ;)
cpfclife
20-03-2006, 10:51 PM
vassel should have passed it out right?
blondie eagle
21-03-2006, 07:49 AM
and then there was the comment by Hansen something along the lines of - thats palace for you.
hes a stupid ignorant Tw*t
BaldEagle96
21-03-2006, 07:50 AM
At least Dowie had the last laugh as he was the only one of the three who went for a West Ham win! :)
GeeTee
21-03-2006, 07:58 AM
Dowie was spot on. Vassell's best option wasn't out right as Konchesky and Collins had the two attackers covered. It was only after he jinked back that they had found extra space. He did the correct thing all the way through but his final ball was too weak, which allowed Konchesky to intercept.
Cleon
21-03-2006, 07:59 AM
Hansen & Dixon had toed the party line by saying that when Vassell went on a wily run he should have moved out wide before he got blocked off in the centre. Dowie disagreed, asking what he would have achieved by going wide, and felt that the lack of any support justified Vassell to keep on running directly. When you think that most of AJ's threat comes from his extremely direct form of attack, then you may have a point.
Hansen, shocked that anyone would disagree with his rubbish, made some comment about Palace, but I didn't quite hear it.
Bungalow
21-03-2006, 08:02 AM
I am sure Iain can take it and we really shouldn't be so sensitive
screamingalice
21-03-2006, 10:22 AM
Frankly I could not give a toss about any of the pundits comments. What concerns me is why on the eve of our most important match of the season so far Dowie is not with the squad? I would have thought a bit of bonding at this stage was more important than working on his media image and arguing with Hanson. I would hope that Dowie is not in a position where he needs the money?
IMHO he should have been working on plan b & C for tonight, rather than concerning himself with Man City or West Ham, unless of course he was eyeing up both teams for a future job if either Pearce or Pardew go off to Lancaster Gate!
Aki Aki Aki
21-03-2006, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by Wine Gumz
hansen is a moaning wan*er
mmmbop.
jazman
21-03-2006, 11:22 AM
I assume that neither Dixon or Hansen will be offered a position on the Palace staff in the near future then? ;)
I am sure that Mr D didn't have a second thought about it so we shouldn't be quite so sensitive about it anyway. In my opinion so called experts are only there to offer their opinion and some just want to cause controversy .....
B the Bad ©
21-03-2006, 02:59 PM
Why are Palace fans so sensitive to anything relating to them on the tele? Hansen may know very well how to articulate his Footballing opinions brilliantly, but him and Dixon don't have the balls to go into Management due to fear of failure. Dowie may not be a remarkable Manager, but due respect for that alone.
westsussexeagle
21-03-2006, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by GeeTee
Dowie was spot on. Vassell's best option wasn't out right as Konchesky and Collins had the two attackers covered. It was only after he jinked back that they had found extra space. He did the correct thing all the way through but his final ball was too weak, which allowed Konchesky to intercept.
Sorry have to disagree. Barton was in absolutely acres of space and even after Vassells walkabout he still should have found him with what should have been a simple pass. I can't remember who pointed it out but the problem with Vassell is that skillful as he undoubtedly is he simply doesn't seem aware of what is going on around him. I agree there was an element of 'how dare you' from the panel about Dowie's view but that aside I don't think his analysis was correct.
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David Amsalem
21-03-2006, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by screamingalice
Frankly I could not give a toss about any of the pundits comments. What concerns me is why on the eve of our most important match of the season so far Dowie is not with the squad? I would have thought a bit of bonding at this stage was more important than working on his media image and arguing with Hanson. I would hope that Dowie is not in a position where he needs the money?
IMHO he should have been working on plan b & C for tonight, rather than concerning himself with Man City or West Ham, unless of course he was eyeing up both teams for a future job if either Pearce or Pardew go off to Lancaster Gate!
Rubbish. It was like 8pm-10pm. Why should Dowie be with them at that time? Why should the players even be together? They'll get sick of each other if they was with the same people 24 hours a day. I'm sure they did there usual routine and spent the day training together.
GeeTee
21-03-2006, 03:29 PM
Originally posted by westsussexeagle
Sorry have to disagree. Barton was in absolutely acres of space and even after Vassells walkabout he still should have found him with what should have been a simple pass. I can't remember who pointed it out but the problem with Vassell is that skillful as he undoubtedly is he simply doesn't seem aware of what is going on around him. I agree there was an element of 'how dare you' from the panel about Dowie's view but that aside I don't think his analysis was correct.
Don't apologise, you are wrong but there's no need to say sorry. ;)
Barton was in acres only after Vassell had jinked. He then did try to play the correct pass but it was extremely under-hit.
limited_edition
21-03-2006, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by B the Bad ©
Why are Palace fans so sensitive to anything relating to them on the tele? Hansen may know very well how to articulate his Footballing opinions brilliantly, but him and Dixon don't have the balls to go into Management due to fear of failure. Dowie may not be a remarkable Manager, but due respect for that alone. I'm not bothered by that little disagreement on TV. I doubt Dowie is either. Nice to see an intelligent pundit on the BBC instead of that irritating football media whore that is Graeme Le Saux. Still, ID on the night before a huge game for us, concerns me a wee bit.
grovesy77
21-03-2006, 03:44 PM
Originally posted by cpfclife
vassel should have passed it out right?
Dowie did disagree with this - I actually thought he was wrong, but fair play to him.
Originally posted by screamingalice
Frankly I could not give a toss about any of the pundits comments. What concerns me is why on the eve of our most important match of the season so far Dowie is not with the squad? I would have thought a bit of bonding at this stage was more important than working on his media image and arguing with Hanson. I would hope that Dowie is not in a position where he needs the money?
IMHO he should have been working on plan b & C for tonight, rather than concerning himself with Man City or West Ham, unless of course he was eyeing up both teams for a future job if either Pearce or Pardew go off to Lancaster Gate!
I don't know what your opinion about Dowie is but it sounds like one that uses anything to moanat him.
limited_edition
21-03-2006, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by Tomo
I don't know what your opinion about Dowie is but it sounds like one that uses anything to moanat him. He has a point. Dowie doesn't do a plan B.
budgie
21-03-2006, 04:19 PM
I agree, and it was interesting listening to him comment about Jose's early substitutions.
As for the stuff about him been on the show, I'd imagine the team are up north preparing for tonights game, and other than Iain tucking them in, I can't really see the problem of leaving them at the hotel on there own. They are Adults aren't they?
screamingalice
21-03-2006, 04:33 PM
Originally posted by David Amsalem
Rubbish. It was like 8pm-10pm. Why should Dowie be with them at that time? Why should the players even be together? They'll get sick of each other if they was with the same people 24 hours a day. I'm sure they did there usual routine and spent the day training together.
Its all a matter of perspective. Of course if it was a home match they would have the usual routine, but this is a critical away match at what is just about the hardest away fixture in the division. They travelled up to Leeds yesterday and IMHO opinion should all be pulling together and making sure the preperation is spot on for tonight. Now it may be that the whole squad went to watch the match and if they did fine. BUt if they were in the hotel with a curfew, then Dowie as the gaffer should be there setting an example by showing he is 100% focussed on the match tonight.
Quote by Tommo "I don't know what your opinion about Dowie is but it sounds like one that uses anything to moan at him."
NO I like Dowie and think two seasons ago he did a great job and last year not a bad job. However at present we are fighting to even reach the play offs when the chaiman and management were confident of automatic promotion. To be fair to Dowie he has us in a better position than either Norwich or Southampton, but I am sure most will agree we have not yet performed with any consistancy so far and we are prone to far too many mistakes. Facing our toughest and most important match so far this season, I would have thought the players and supporters should expect 100% focus from the manager at this stage. As mentioned if the players went to the match fine, but I would have thought team spirit would have been better served watching the match with the players either in Manchester or at the hotel. NOt promoting himself as a pundit on the BBC.
screamingalice
21-03-2006, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by David Amsalem
Rubbish. It was like 8pm-10pm. Why should Dowie be with them at that time? Why should the players even be together? They'll get sick of each other if they was with the same people 24 hours a day. I'm sure they did there usual routine and spent the day training together.
One other point how would you have felt if Dowie had been on TV the night before the playoff final doing the pundit role on a game that has no concern for us at all? Yet tonights match is almost as important as the Cardiff match two years ago.
limited_edition
21-03-2006, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by budgie
I agree, and it was interesting listening to him comment about Jose's early substitutions. I almost laughed at that point. Substitutions are not ID's specialist subject. Particularly when you consider ID is the man who makes reluctant substitutions and hardly gives 'em enough time to prove themselves. Unless we are 2-0 down already and it's too late.
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kolinkins
21-03-2006, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by limited_edition
Substitutions are not ID's specialist subject.
Stadium of Light, Millenium stadium etc etc
It's all opinion to suggest any other substitution which the BBS thinks should have been made would have made a positive impact.
budgie
21-03-2006, 05:59 PM
Originally posted by limited_edition
I almost laughed at that point. Substitutions are not ID's specialist subject. Particularly when you consider ID is the man who makes reluctant substitutions and hardly gives 'em enough time to prove themselves. Unless we are 2-0 down already and it's too late.
As you say, hardly his specialist subject.
However another manager not keen on substitutions was Stevie Coppell, always said the side he picks at the start, would be his strongest 11, so why change it.
limited_edition
21-03-2006, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by kolinkins
Stadium of Light, Millenium stadium etc etc
It's all opinion to suggest any other substitution which the BBS thinks should have been made would have made a positive impact. That was 2 years ago, my friend. That's a heck of a long time in football. He was a great tactician back then. Derry on the left in the Play Off final was a masterstroke. As was bringing on Powell when Deane came on. Needs to rediscover that sort of tactical genius nowadays. Although he got the substution bang on tonight by the signs of it when Leeds were upping the tempo when Blake came on.
Freddy Kurz
21-03-2006, 10:47 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by screamingalice
Frankly I could not give a toss about any of the pundits comments. What concerns me is why on the eve of our most important match of the season so far Dowie is not with the squad? I would have thought a bit of bonding at this stage was more important than working on his media image and arguing with Hanson. I would hope that Dowie is not in a position where he needs the money?
IMHO he should have been working on plan b & C for tonight, rather than concerning himself with Man City or West Ham, unless of course he was eyeing up both teams for a future job if either Pearce or Pardew go off to Lancaster Gate! [/
The proof of the pudding is surely in the eating screamingalice?
Being away from the team on the eve of the match with Leeds
clearly didn't do either Dowie or the Palace team any harm!
He frequently joins his wife and family in Lancashire after a week-end game, so it was easy for him to fit in the Manchester City v West Ham
FA Cup tie on BBC TV last night, allowing him to meet up with his team
immediately afterwards, if they were staying up there overnight or
joining them if they arrived during today.
Obviously his deputy, McDonald, has a much more important and
influential role with the team than many on BBS have hitherto
imagined......
limited_edition
21-03-2006, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by Freddy Kurz
The proof of the pudding is surely in the eating screamingalice?
Being away from the team on the eve of the match with Leeds
clearly didn't do either Dowie or the Palace team any harm!
He frequently joins his wife and family in Lancashire after a week-end game, so it was easy for him to fit in the Manchester City v West Ham
FA Cup tie on BBC TV last night, allowing him to meet up with his team
immediately afterwards, if they were staying up there overnight or
joining them if they arrived during today.
Obviously his deputy, McDonald, has a much more important and
influential role with the team than many on BBS have hitherto
imagined...... Let's give Macca some credit for a change. He gets a lot of stick on here, and most of us probably don't know his true role.
Sir.S.C Remembered
22-03-2006, 09:31 AM
Originally posted by David Amsalem
Rubbish. It was like 8pm-10pm. Why should Dowie be with them at that time? Why should the players even be together? They'll get sick of each other if they was with the same people 24 hours a day. I'm sure they did there usual routine and spent the day training together.
I do not mind him not being with the team but it does confise me when he's on Sky on a Sunday then complains about not being able to see his family up north. I'd rather he spent his day off seeing his family so he is happier and doesn't use it as an excuse to take another job that comes up
westsussexeagle
22-03-2006, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by GeeTee
Don't apologise, you are wrong but there's no need to say sorry. ;)
Barton was in acres only after Vassell had jinked. He then did try to play the correct pass but it was extremely under-hit.
Watch it again my friend. Barton was in danger of getting agrophobia from the moment he slipped the ball through to Vassell.
And you cannot seriously call that a PASS!!!:bash: He'd run out of everything - control, understanding, insight, ability awareness and simply poked the ball to nowhere in particular. :lux:
B the Bad ©
22-03-2006, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by limited_edition
I'm not bothered by that little disagreement on TV. I doubt Dowie is either. Nice to see an intelligent pundit on the BBC instead of that irritating football media whore that is Graeme Le Saux. Still, ID on the night before a huge game for us, concerns me a wee bit.
Le Socks may have been the biggest cóck end of a player, but he has surprised me as a pundit/commentator. Tends to speak his mind and say things a lot of people would ignore. I do hate saying these words, but I also hate unfair bias.
screamingalice
22-03-2006, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by Freddy Kurz
[QUOTE]Originally posted by screamingalice
Frankly I could not give a toss about any of the pundits comments. What concerns me is why on the eve of our most important match of the season so far Dowie is not with the squad? I would have thought a bit of bonding at this stage was more important than working on his media image and arguing with Hanson. I would hope that Dowie is not in a position where he needs the money?
IMHO he should have been working on plan b & C for tonight, rather than concerning himself with Man City or West Ham, unless of course he was eyeing up both teams for a future job if either Pearce or Pardew go off to Lancaster Gate! [/
The proof of the pudding is surely in the eating screamingalice?
Being away from the team on the eve of the match with Leeds
clearly didn't do either Dowie or the Palace team any harm!
He frequently joins his wife and family in Lancashire after a week-end game, so it was easy for him to fit in the Manchester City v West Ham
FA Cup tie on BBC TV last night, allowing him to meet up with his team
immediately afterwards, if they were staying up there overnight or
joining them if they arrived during today.
Obviously his deputy, McDonald, has a much more important and
influential role with the team than many on BBS have hitherto
imagined......
Of course the proof is in the pudding Freddy and I am delighted not just for the team and the fans but for Dowie also, he has taken plenty of stick this year as McDonald. However if we had lost and turned in a bad performance a lot of people would have questioned his wisdom in appearing on Sky the night before such a crucial match.
I am not convinced that McDonald has given the team any positives this season over and above the fine contributions Kit & John Harbin made in the previous two seasons. While we all understand that Dowie is still learning the art of management, I think its fair to say we have repeated many errors this season over and over again. Of course we have had real injury problems which have not helped, along with the Chairman's pre season predictions on our finishing position, which has put pressure on the team.
It is good to see Iain on TV as he is prepared to speak his mind and its a real refresher compared to some of the bland comments many pundits roll out. I just wonder if he was perhaps not judging the mood of the fans in appearing on Monday night? We are all happy today, but a defeat last night would have put us under real pressure of the wrong kind.
I will repeat what I posted previously if the whole squad went to the game fine, thats good it would have been a good night out for them and it is then understandable that Iain was on TV. If they however were all back in the hotel, under "curfew" then he did not set a good example. Not that it matters now of course, in relation to last night, but the long term effect on squad moral may not be good. We have seen many games this season when the team has not seem "up for it" and like others I was starting to wonder if the Dowie magic was wearing off a little.
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RDSdaEAGLE
23-03-2006, 07:57 PM
I hope Iain has sent Hansen and Dixon a copy of AJ's goal. AJ did exactly what Vassell should have done, but with a far more decisive pass.
orp pisshead1
25-03-2006, 05:34 AM
Originally posted by screamingalice
Of course the proof is in the pudding Freddy and I am delighted not just for the team and the fans but for Dowie also, he has taken plenty of stick this year as McDonald. However if we had lost and turned in a bad performance a lot of people would have questioned his wisdom in appearing on Sky the night before such a crucial match.
I am not convinced that McDonald has given the team any positives this season over and above the fine contributions Kit & John Harbin made in the previous two seasons. While we all understand that Dowie is still learning the art of management, I think its fair to say we have repeated many errors this season over and over again. Of course we have had real injury problems which have not helped, along with the Chairman's pre season predictions on our finishing position, which has put pressure on the team.
It is good to see Iain on TV as he is prepared to speak his mind and its a real refresher compared to some of the bland comments many pundits roll out. I just wonder if he was perhaps not judging the mood of the fans in appearing on Monday night? We are all happy today, but a defeat last night would have put us under real pressure of the wrong kind.
I will repeat what I posted previously if the whole squad went to the game fine, thats good it would have been a good night out for them and it is then understandable that Iain was on TV. If they however were all back in the hotel, under "curfew" then he did not set a good example. Not that it matters now of course, in relation to last night, but the long term effect on squad moral may not be good. We have seen many games this season when the team has not seem "up for it" and like others I was starting to wonder if the Dowie magic was wearing off a little.
Maybe now its the crunch time of the season , this is dowies way to unwind before a big game by talking about another game where theres no pressure on him whats so ever?, no problem with him being on telly as its his own time. Of course its important he concentrates on getting us back in the prem but i bet his salary doesn't cover the silly amount of hours he already puts in.
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