BBC South East and Clowntown [Archive]

James Melody

12-04-2006, 01:00 PM

I have just watched the 1 o'clock news on BBC South East and they carried an article on Charlton fans travelling to Middlesborough tonight. It is not the first time I have seen an article on Charlton on BBC South East, yet I don't recall seeing anything about Crystal Palace.

Palace are a London club as are Charlton, I would only expect to see them on BBC London - not on South East.

Celestial Empire

12-04-2006, 06:02 PM

I have been prattling on about this for a few years, (I guess nobody else really cares). It's not just BBC South-east, it's Meridian as well - they always refer to "our three south-east clubs", that's Gillingham, Brighton and Charlton. :eek: :vader:
(didn't you see that investigation into BBC product placement ? Charlton is just the latest example. Mr Varney probably feels very smug about it).
Perhaps it has something to do with Michael Grade on their board - is he the Beeb Michael Grade ?

Hedgie

12-04-2006, 06:34 PM

I guess it's because Charlton bus in a sizeable proportion of their fanbase from Kent and Sussex, whereas we mostly draw our support from the local area.

geeza

12-04-2006, 06:49 PM

Chester 76

12-04-2006, 07:17 PM

Originally posted by Hedgie
I guess it's because Charlton bus in a sizeable proportion of their fanbase from Kent and Sussex, whereas we mostly draw our support from the local area. Partially correct, we do draw a sizeable support from outside the local area. However unlike Charlton we haven`t taken advantage of a large area which has only a couple of clubs.

James Melody

12-04-2006, 09:09 PM

I am sure there are more Man Utd fans in the South East than Charlton Fans, why not show them on BBC South East or Meridian?

boroeagle

12-04-2006, 09:30 PM

As soon as I saw it I turned the telly off!

Ian of Chatham

13-04-2006, 12:24 AM

Originally posted by Hedgie
I guess it's because Charlton bus in a sizeable proportion of their fanbase from Kent and Sussex, whereas we mostly draw our support from the local area.
Actually I think that is not the reason. I think it is because both Meridian and BBC South East are too lazy to send reporters to Palace or Millwall, arguable both of those clubs are near enough to Charlton which are covered and have enough supporters living in the South East TV region if they can be bothered to carry out their research.

daz_eagle

13-04-2006, 12:45 AM

the head of the bbc is a charlton supporter.

Raoul Duke

13-04-2006, 02:57 AM

or it could be that Charlton are an established Premiership Club.

James Melody

13-04-2006, 07:06 AM

So why do they cover Gillingham and Brighton??

GeeTee

13-04-2006, 10:44 AM

I think Charlton have invited the reporters to cover them in the south east news magazine shows.

In my opinion (having lived in both) we have more fans than them in Kent and East Sussex.

Nelson Muntz

13-04-2006, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by GeeTee
In my opinion (having lived in both) we have more fans than them in Kent When I moved to Kent about 19 years ago there wasn't a clown in sight, yet I saw lots of Palace. Now there are more clowns about because, I think, they bus them in from all over the shop, they do cheap tickets, they are in the Prem and draw some glory hunters and finally that some of them may have moved out from Woolwich and the surrounding area to this neck of the woods.
The town I live in has lots of Palace fans though.

pallet

13-04-2006, 10:54 AM

the bbc love a minority

monkey

13-04-2006, 02:52 PM

I had this explained to me once,god knows how long ago this was but what we now know as the City of London was all that exsisted of London,anything other than that was part of what we know as the home counties.................i.e.Charlton Greenwich and Blackheath was part of kent..............until the krauts tried to re-arrange the map for us,or was It the romans?:D buggered If I know!!!:rolleyes:

Brett

13-04-2006, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by pallet
the bbc love a minority

Pallet Gold. :p

Ferris Bueller

13-04-2006, 03:05 PM

The local coverage always has overlap, but this doesn't explain why Palace aren't on BBC South East if Charlton are. If my memory serves me correctly for our tv regions it goes;
BBC London: all London clubs, Watford, Luton, Gillingham and Reading
BBC South East: Charlton, Gillingham, Brighton
BBC South: Brighton, Reading, Portsmouth, Southampton, Bournemouth

Ribbo

13-04-2006, 03:16 PM

Can't remember whether Charlton are still affiliated with the Kent FA, could be a reason?

Strictly Palace

14-04-2006, 11:09 AM

Maybe the BBC are trying to keep in touch with the Clown's fanbase which is not easy because they keep getting evicted and moved on

Seagullette

14-04-2006, 09:38 PM

As I live to the east of Brighton slightly we also get BBC southeast.
When Gillingham got relegated I thought that we would be mentioned 2nd after Charlton, but no, we still get mentioned after Gillingham.
In Brighton the news is South Today so we come after Southampton (even though they're in the fizzy pop league) Pompey, Reading and then us.

Jim Cannon

14-04-2006, 11:42 PM

How many more trimes do we need to discuss this?

BBC, ITV & Sky do not like CPFC...........just like the press.

Addickted

16-04-2006, 05:10 PM

About four years ago, the Club made a concerted effort to canvass the BBC by showing them the number of ST holders we have in Kent, particularly in the DA, TN and ME postcodes. The Club went out of the way to court the execs at BBC South East and continue to have an excellent relationship with them

It's obviously worked wonders as we get excellent coverage on BBC SE as well as BBC London. It also helps that we are considered to be the South East Premiership Club.

It just proves that, yet again, our CEO knows what he's doing.

Addickted

16-04-2006, 05:11 PM

Originally posted by Jim Cannon
How many more trimes do we need to discuss this?

BBC, ITV & Sky do not like CPFC...........just like the press.

Perhaps your Chairman can answer why.

Diggers digs in?

16-04-2006, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by Addickted
Perhaps your Chairman can answer why.

At least he's got some balls, and doesn't pander to the media to gain coverage for a club that nobody cares about. Theres more CPFC fans than clowntown here, but no mention of Palace ever. It's just favouritism.

Addickted

16-04-2006, 06:27 PM

Two coaches left TW for 'Boro last wednesday. There's also a thriving Branch of the supporters Club in TW with over 100 members.

What do Palace do in TW Diggers?

James Melody

22-04-2006, 11:20 AM

Response from the BBC

James - thank you for your email. The reason BBC South East includes Charlton in its sports coverage is due to the large number of their supporters who live in our area. Almost 60% of season ticket holders come from Kent or East Sussex and the club busses in thousands of supporters from as far afield as Deal and Eastbourne for each home game. We certainly have nothing against Crystal Palace (or any other clubs) but its unlikely that sufficient numbers of supporters are able to watch our output.

Best of luck to Palace in the playoffs - see you at the Valley next season
Regards Neil Bell - BBC South East

Maidstoned Eagle

22-04-2006, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by Addickted
About four years ago, the Club made a concerted effort to canvass the BBC by showing them the number of ST holders we have in Kent, particularly in the DA, TN and ME postcodes. The Club went out of the way to court the execs at BBC South East and continue to have an excellent relationship with them

It's obviously worked wonders as we get excellent coverage on BBC SE as well as BBC London. It also helps that we are considered to be the South East Premiership Club.

It just proves that, yet again, our CEO knows what he's doing.

That's due to the huge flooding of advertising offering season ticket's to people in these areas when you got promoted. If i remember correctly the pitch was more about watching man U, Liverpool Arsenal etc, rather than watching Charlton.

Ian of Chatham

22-04-2006, 08:32 PM

James - thank you for your email. The reason BBC South East includes Charlton in its sports coverage is due to the large number of their supporters who live in our area. Almost 60% of season ticket holders come from Kent or East Sussex and the club busses in thousands of supporters from as far afield as Deal and Eastbourne for each home game. We certainly have nothing against Crystal Palace (or any other clubs) but its unlikely that sufficient numbers of supporters are able to watch our output.
This response is quite frankly rubbish. If the BBC South East people were to do a demographic survey of their broadcast area they would be surprised of the number of Palace fans that live there, particularly to the west of their broadcast area. So the Charlton fans run coaches then, big Deal. As for Eastbourne there is no way they can say that there are significantly many more Charlton fans that live there than Palace fans.

I don't blame Charlton for taking advantage of their big love in with the media, I blame the media themselves.

KevMason98

22-04-2006, 08:48 PM

Quote -
"Best of luck to Palace in the playoffs - see you at the Valley next season Regards Neil Bell - BBC South East"

He's a Charlton fan!!!

Chester 76

22-04-2006, 08:56 PM

Last Monday at Stansted I caught the BBC local news, which included the results for Reading & Wycombe ! However Colchester & Ipswich weren`t !

Diggers digs in?

22-04-2006, 09:17 PM

Originally posted by Addickted
Two coaches left TW for 'Boro last wednesday. There's also a thriving Branch of the supporters Club in TW with over 100 members.

What do Palace do in TW Diggers?

We meet in the masonic hall, and plot ways to keep the conservative party in power in the town. And also which clowntown supporting household we're going to firebomb* next.

*With shards of friendly rivalry

aj4england

22-04-2006, 09:29 PM

487

Coaches left for middlesborough from tunbridge wells. How much did that cost the club. You only get away support when your muppet chairman puts on free travel. I would know as me my mate whose a charlton fan thats the only reason they went,because of the free travel.

Celestial Empire

22-04-2006, 10:58 PM

So typically Charlton : a long string of bad results, then a "Cup Final" to damage Pompey's survival hopes (perhaps they're planning to "bus in" from Portsmouth). Today, back to business as usual. :rolleyes:

It will be interesting when Curbishley eventually goes, the whole team is built around picking which games to put some effort in to. They are the equivalent of the mediocre student who always manages to scrape through, by having excellent exam "technique" and having a tutor good at picking questions.