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SJ'sLoveMonkey
13-08-2007, 11:01 AM
84-1
SJ'sLoveMonkey
13-08-2007, 11:08 AM
Here we go 86-2! Cook out
Diggers digs in?
13-08-2007, 11:57 AM
Originally posted by Adlerhorst
Sorry but that is not true - he held the record for the most deliveries in test cricket without taking a wicket.
He is an unspectacular bowler. I would never say effective
If I remember the figures right from the first innings, he was the most economical bowler we had. Anderson went for more than 4 an over - that is just not good enough, regardless of the pitch.
ozeagle
13-08-2007, 01:07 PM
i see the superstar opener didn't bother to trouble the scorers, AGAIN.....
Kiraly_legend
13-08-2007, 01:15 PM
If only Trescothick was in a position to return to test cricket, I think he would make a good opening partnership with Cook.
ozeagle
13-08-2007, 01:26 PM
strauss makes a great opening partnership week in week out.
.....
for the opposition.
ozeagle
13-08-2007, 01:31 PM
they could do with jettisoning this vaughan as well....
Oisin
13-08-2007, 01:49 PM
How was ten minutes lost to bad light. Its blazing sunshine in Bromley.
GUCCI Eagle
13-08-2007, 01:56 PM
I was at yesterday's most boring day of cricket in the world ever. Z z z z z z z z z z .
I'm a light sleeper, but yesterday I managed top fall asleep in public for the first time. I was unconcious for approximately 15 overs before tea. I hadn't even had a beer.
GUCCI Eagle
13-08-2007, 02:03 PM
Come on Collingwood - let's smash our way to a record victory!
calne eagle
13-08-2007, 02:15 PM
I had to quote this from the BBC site:
"Razzle is £2.80 now. I only buy it so I can hide the Daily Mail inside it to avoid embarrassment when walking out of the shop."
Steve, London, in the TMS inbox.
Quality.
Oh, and I do concede that we won't win.
Adlerhorst
13-08-2007, 03:39 PM
Originally posted by calne eagle
I had to quote this from the BBC site:
"Razzle is £2.80 now. I only buy it so I can hide the Daily Mail inside it to avoid embarrassment when walking out of the shop."
Steve, London, in the TMS inbox.
Quality.
Oh, and I do concede that we won't win. the •••• we wont - plenty of time yet
Absolution
13-08-2007, 03:52 PM
Game, set, match.
KevTheOptimist
13-08-2007, 05:27 PM
Yet again Bell makes a couple of scores in a nothing match.....
embryo eagle
13-08-2007, 05:36 PM
A good series all in all i think. If the rain hadn't come at Lords or Monty had got that LBW there it would of been 1-1 which would have been fair.
SJ'sLoveMonkey
13-08-2007, 05:39 PM
England need Freddie, Harmison and Hoggard back from injury sharpish. Although Jimmy Anderson looks very good at the moment
embryo eagle
13-08-2007, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by SJ'sLoveMonkey
England need Freddie, Harmison and Hoggard back from injury sharpish. Although Jimmy Anderson looks very good at the moment
I was fairly impressed with Tremlett as well after being in disbelief that he was originally picked ahead of Broad.
maestro
13-08-2007, 05:44 PM
I think India on the whole were the better team, England should have won the first match and India the final 2.
Looking forward to the one day games now!
embryo eagle
13-08-2007, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by maestro
I think India on the whole were the better team, England should have won the first match and India the final 2.
Looking forward to the one day games now!
I'm not, I expect another comfortable series defeat. As I've said before on here another two tests would have been much better than 7 one dayers.
Oisin
13-08-2007, 08:59 PM
India must have insisted on more ODI's and for the tests to be over so soon. Usually the Oval test is a couple of weeks later. I always feel three test series are unsatisfactory.
Super-Ste-Cious
13-08-2007, 09:02 PM
1ff3
Originally posted by Oisin
India must have insisted on more ODI's and for the tests to be over so soon. Usually the Oval test is a couple of weeks later. I always feel three test series are unsatisfactory.
Yeah im hating the schedule this year. Its not a prob not summer without a 5-test series. (Certainly 4 tests at the very least)
KevTheOptimist
13-08-2007, 10:23 PM
Originally posted by SJ'sLoveMonkey
England need Freddie, Harmison and Hoggard back from injury sharpish. Although Jimmy Anderson looks very good at the moment
Can I have some of your drugs please
Diggers digs in?
13-08-2007, 10:48 PM
Indeed. Anderson just really doesn't cut the mustard. Sidebottom deserved at least the number of wickets that JA got but had absolutely no luck. He's been our best bowler in this series by a long way. Fair play to Anderson, he bowls the odd cracker, but he is just not consistent enough for test matches against decent sides.
Oddjob
21-08-2007, 03:39 PM
Have I missed something? England appear to be constructing a decent ODI innings at the moment, its almost like they have a plan !
Adlerhorst
21-08-2007, 04:22 PM
To explain how little i consider ODIs to be a sport, i am off work today and have not watched a sinlle ball of this.
Adlerhorst
21-08-2007, 04:24 PM
Though having just checked the bbc website - yes they look like they have constructed an innings. Serious bashing required now.
288-2 off of the 50.
Ian Bell with by far his best one day innings for England 126 off 118 balls. Cook also getting 102.
Well played, good start.
Adlerhorst
21-08-2007, 05:40 PM
Well, interesting.
Playing conservatively that appears to be as good as we're ever going to get. One down after about 40 overs and we only made 290 odd.
Just thought I ought to point that out. Also what is the point of Prior opening with a strike rate of 60 odd. Either he is going to attempt to score at at least a run a ball in the powerplays or we play someone who is. Surely the idea cannot be for him to play a conservative role.
Adlerhorst
21-08-2007, 05:40 PM
Oh and well played Ian Bell and Cook.
Absolution
21-08-2007, 05:50 PM
Well done to Cook and Bell on their first 100's.
I agree about Prior, he really needs to impose himself early or there is no point in him being in the opening partnership. Cook can certainly do a job if he can regularly get good scores holding partnerships together.
embryo eagle
21-08-2007, 06:07 PM
I'm well pleased with our batting. Makes a change from being bowled out in the 50. And best of all a run out for Monty!!
Godstone Eagle
21-08-2007, 06:11 PM
Comical run out from Ganguly..strolling through the first run, looked up and saw it was Monty, thought there was easy two, turned and started running, then looked up and saw Monty throwing the ball back, he couldnt believe it - the look on his face said it all, and it was too late..brilliant:D
Adlerhorst
21-08-2007, 06:12 PM
will have to go and check out that.
kolinkins
21-08-2007, 06:13 PM
Originally posted by Adlerhorst
Well, interesting.
Playing conservatively that appears to be as good as we're ever going to get. One down after about 40 overs and we only made 290 odd.
Just thought I ought to point that out. Also what is the point of Prior opening with a strike rate of 60 odd. Either he is going to attempt to score at at least a run a ball in the powerplays or we play someone who is. Surely the idea cannot be for him to play a conservative role.
With the score England had after 40 overs, they should have scored 330
maestro
21-08-2007, 06:16 PM
Good start for England, India 19-2
Has Kumble reitired from ODI's?
Godstone Eagle
21-08-2007, 06:49 PM
India 34-4
kolinkins
21-08-2007, 06:51 PM
This is great viewing
maestro
21-08-2007, 07:47 PM
Anderson has been superb today so far, Panasaer has been awfull, not really a good one day bowler imo, no variation, not much if any turn
Stavros 69
21-08-2007, 08:04 PM
Flintoff bowling well
maestro
21-08-2007, 09:51 PM
Yeah good to see flintoff back at full tilt, upto 93mph
Lizzy
22-08-2007, 12:50 AM
Flintoff needs to sort his no ball problem out.
Stavros 69
22-08-2007, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by Lizzy
Flintoff needs to sort his no ball problem out.
He didnt bowl that many. It's his first game back.
SJ'sLoveMonkey
22-08-2007, 11:30 AM
I think considering he has been out for the time he has to crank it up to 93 mph was a good effort by Flintoff
Adlerhorst
22-08-2007, 12:07 PM
Does anyone else think it is somewhat surprising that everyone bowls at about 3-5 mph quicker in one dayers than in tests. Okay so they only boewl ten overs in a day rather than say twenty but even so they bowl similar length spells.
I reckon the speed guns are on the fiddle to make it look more exciting.
1f53
Justy C
22-08-2007, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by Adlerhorst
Does anyone else think it is somewhat surprising that everyone bowls at about 3-5 mph quicker in one dayers than in tests. Okay so they only boewl ten overs in a day rather than say twenty but even so they bowl similar length spells.
I reckon the speed guns are on the fiddle to make it look more exciting.
My brother and I were talking about this last night.
Strange...
stevek
22-08-2007, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by Stavros 69
He didnt bowl that many.
One an over (as it was for the first few overs) is very poor for a one day game. And in different circumstances, the one to Dhoni could have been very costly.
However...
Originally posted by Stavros 69
It's his first game back.
.. is the key point.
Super-Ste-Cious
22-08-2007, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by Lizzy
Flintoff needs to sort his no ball problem out.
I think one of the problems was the dampness in the bowlers run up. With all the sawdust down, it seemed he was concentrating on trying to land on those patches.
Diggers digs in?
22-08-2007, 02:16 PM
Give him a chance to sort it out. Hopefully if we keep Donald as bowling coach it'll get fixed. He bowled really excellently last night as well. Not convinced Mascarenhas has got enough to trouble a team playing well.
Adlerhorst
22-08-2007, 02:17 PM
Something I forgot to say yesterday (as i did watch our bowling performance). Prior was excellent behind the stumps. It is widely known that i don't rate him but credit where credit is due.
Stavros 69
22-08-2007, 03:07 PM
Originally posted by stevek
One an over (as it was for the first few overs) is very poor for a one day game. And in different circumstances, the one to Dhoni could have been very costly.
However...
.. is the key point.
Talk about picking, he was the best bowler yesterday.
stevek
22-08-2007, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by Stavros 69
Talk about picking, he was the best bowler yesterday.
No, Anderson was.
(And yes, I was being picky :) )
Stavros 69
22-08-2007, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by stevek
No, Anderson was.
(And yes, I was being picky :) )
Not in my eyes. It was Flintoffs first game back, his r/o was better, he only bowled 7 overs. He was neater then Anderson and offered more variation. He was Englands best bowler yesterday. Wickets dont count for everything.
stevek
22-08-2007, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by Stavros 69
Not in my eyes. It was Flintoffs first game back, his r/o was better, he only bowled 7 overs. He was neater then Anderson and offered more variation. He was Englands best bowler yesterday. Wickets dont count for everything.
Wickets count for a hell of a lot. The match was won before Flintoff came on to bowl.
(Though I do agree it was a great spell, particularly for his first game back.)
Stavros 69
22-08-2007, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by stevek
Wickets count for a hell of a lot. The match was won before Flintoff came on to bowl.
(Though I do agree it was a great spell, particularly for his first game back.)
Not when you dont need them, ODI we bat first all we need to do is restrict their score, FLintoff did it so well.
Stavros 69
22-08-2007, 03:23 PM
I can coach you if you like Steve ?? :)
stevek
22-08-2007, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by Stavros 69
Not when you dont need them, ODI we bat first all we need to do is restrict their score, FLintoff did it so well.
And the best way to restrict their score is to take wickets.
Stavros 69
22-08-2007, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by stevek
And the best way to restrict their score is to take wickets.
I thought it was to keep the run rate down !?!?
Adlerhorst
22-08-2007, 03:32 PM
The four wickets down with only 30 odd on the board won the match yesterday. End of story. Wickets reduce run rates Stav. Flintoff bowled well yesterday, but this was mad a lot easier by the fact that the opposition were trying to dig themselves out of the shit the found themeselves in thanks to Jimmy.
Lambeth Palace
22-08-2007, 05:56 PM
Told
Stavros 69
22-08-2007, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by Adlerhorst
The four wickets down with only 30 odd on the board won the match yesterday. End of story. Wickets reduce run rates Stav. Flintoff bowled well yesterday, but this was mad a lot easier by the fact that the opposition were trying to dig themselves out of the shit the found themeselves in thanks to Jimmy.
Dont think so Jeorge, sure Jimmy bowled well, doesnt mean he bowled the best yesterday. You say wickets reduced run rates, sure no arguing that, but India never got going yesterday and in the larger picture wickets can only reduce run rates by 10 an innngs, if i want to be really picky. Flintoff really disrupted the bats men and kept them tight backing them in a cornor when they needed to start getting runs.
Fact is that Flintoff was the most economical yesterday and i felt bowled the best of all the England team. Bell scored the most for England and played a blinder yesterday but i felt Pieterson had the best innings even though he scored 33 odd.
Stavros 69
22-08-2007, 06:02 PM
I bet you Adler wants Rampacash back in the England set up.
Diggers digs in?
22-08-2007, 06:03 PM
1f84
Sorry, but they would have gone after a lesser bowler, but they couldn't handle Freddie. Don't discount his contribution just because we had made a good start.
Having said that I haven't seen such an abject performance from any side for a long time. Since Bristol Rovers, in fact.
Anyone else going on Friday? I've got two exams on the day, but should be able to catch a very large chunk of the action from about 4ish onwards hopefully.
Stavros 69
22-08-2007, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by Webb
Anyone else going on Friday? I've got two exams on the day, but should be able to catch a very large chunk of the action from about 4ish onwards hopefully.
My suggestion would be to ditch the exams ;)
Originally posted by Stavros 69
My suggestion would be to ditch the exams ;)
The thought is crossing my mind big time.
Adlerhorst
22-08-2007, 10:38 PM
Originally posted by Stavros 69
I bet you Adler wants Rampacash back in the England set up. not at all - would rather he was in the Surrey team
Adlerhorst
22-08-2007, 10:47 PM
Originally posted by Diggers digs in?
Sorry, but they would have gone after a lesser bowler, but they couldn't handle Freddie. Don't discount his contribution just because we had made a good start. A good start?? 4-40. The match was over from then onwards (please do not tell me you took the sky commentary seriously - they have to try and say something so we don't turn off).
Are you drunk?
Adlerhorst
22-08-2007, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by Stavros 69
Dont think so Jeorge, sure Jimmy bowled well, doesnt mean he bowled the best yesterday. You say wickets reduced run rates, sure no arguing that, but India never got going yesterday and in the larger picture wickets can only reduce run rates by 10 an innngs, if i want to be really picky. Flintoff really disrupted the bats men and kept them tight backing them in a cornor when they needed to start getting runs.
Fact is that Flintoff was the most economical yesterday and i felt bowled the best of all the England team. Bell scored the most for England and played a blinder yesterday but i felt Pieterson had the best innings even though he scored 33 odd. Honestly??? I thought KP was somewhat of a let down yesterday. We should have scored somewhere between 300 and 330 yesterday given the position we were in. Bell did his job - stay there until the end and give the big hitter the strike - said big hitter did not seem to (or want to) do his job.
Diggers digs in?
24-08-2007, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by Adlerhorst
A good start?? 4-40. The match was over from then onwards (please do not tell me you took the sky commentary seriously - they have to try and say something so we don't turn off).
Are you drunk?
Fair enough. But he bowled exceptionally well, regardless of the circumstances. That is irrefutable (IMVVHO).#
Why don't you consider ODI's a sport ?
embryo eagle
24-08-2007, 01:24 PM
Monty dropped for Tremlett. Must be expecting it to nip about today.
Baloo
24-08-2007, 03:04 PM
I'm afraid Collingwood is showing some naivety in his captaincy at the moment. Freddie and Tremlett are getting tonked all over the place - run rate for the last five overs is over 10 - so it's time to take the pace off the ball. There's no Monty, so let's have some Colly-wobblers or give KP or Bell a go.
SJ'sLoveMonkey
24-08-2007, 03:09 PM
108-0
Gav The Hamster
24-08-2007, 04:24 PM
with 20 overs to go and 180 - 2, you would expect a 300+ score here.
Super-Ste-Cious
24-08-2007, 04:36 PM
Do you really need Collingwood, Bopara AND Mascharenhas all in one team. Obviously Colly is captain, I quite like the look of Bopara - but despite watchin Mascharenhas for years at county level, he seems complete gash at this level.
maestro
24-08-2007, 04:39 PM
If England can keep the score down to below 300 that would be gettable.
I think the commentators keep going on about the weather and how hot it is, I think they are doing it on purpose, Its freezing here!
Adlerhorst
24-08-2007, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by Diggers digs in?
Why don't you consider ODI's a sport ? Because it's not cricket. And in ten years it will be dead - thank you twenty20
SJ'sLoveMonkey
24-08-2007, 05:06 PM
261-3 from 43
Gav The Hamster
24-08-2007, 05:14 PM
I know England won the 1st game but India are showing exactly how you should approach the last 10 overs with wickets in hand. 100 in the last 10 in ODIs is what you should aim for with 6/7+ wickets in hand.
Diggers digs in?
24-08-2007, 05:19 PM
Originally posted by Adlerhorst
Because it's not cricket. And in ten years it will be dead - thank you twenty20
Forgive my youth, but why is it not cricket?
Godstone Eagle
24-08-2007, 05:42 PM
India 329-7...fantastic innings from Dravid. Going to be difficult for England, but the wicket is perfect for batting, and small boundaries..so England should be able to give this run chase a good go.
kolinkins
24-08-2007, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by Adlerhorst
Because it's not cricket.
Go and say that (loud) in the middle of Mumbai....
barry balddog
24-08-2007, 07:55 PM
2091
Originally posted by kolinkins
Go and say that (loud) in the middle of Mumbai.... say it loud in the middle of mumble?
embryo eagle
24-08-2007, 08:03 PM
175-3. Should be a tight finish, especially due to India's woeful fielding.
Adlerhorst
24-08-2007, 08:42 PM
Originally posted by kolinkins
Go and say that (loud) in the middle of Mumbai.... Happily. In ten years time.
You'll all notice how the ICL is a twenty20 tournament rather than a 50 over tournament. Odd that.
kolinkins
24-08-2007, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by Adlerhorst
Happily. In ten years time.
You'll all notice how the ICL is a twenty20 tournament rather than a 50 over tournament. Odd that.
I like both twenty20 and ODIs - but ifyou said ODIs arent a sport, what makes twenty20 a sport?
Adlerhorst
24-08-2007, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by kolinkins
I like both twenty20 and ODIs - but ifyou said ODIs arent a sport, what makes twenty20 a sport? I have just looked back a couple of pages and i meant ODIs are not cricket rather than a sport. I see why this confused people.
I have just seen your pm on the rules. I know the answer - will drop you one back.
kolinkins
24-08-2007, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by Adlerhorst
I have just looked back a couple of pages and i meant ODIs are not cricket rather than a sport. I see why this confused people.
Fair enough - but is twenty20 cricket?
Adlerhorst
24-08-2007, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by kolinkins
Fair enough - but is twenty20 cricket? Not remotely - glorified slog, but more fun than 50 over stuff, which tends to be a bit turgid now.
Frankly 50 over stuff has done its job, test cricket is better because of it, that I do not dispute, but now it has run its course, Twenty20 is more exciting and quicker and not trying to be anything that it isn't (i.e. a slog)
Adlerhorst
24-08-2007, 09:01 PM
What's the score by the way - Bristol is a little ground so assume they got a fair few and we fell, well, short.
maestro
24-08-2007, 09:06 PM
w need about 60 runs of 5 overs, something like that with 7 down
kolinkins
24-08-2007, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by Adlerhorst
Not remotely - glorified slog, but more fun than 50 over stuff, which tends to be a bit turgid now.
Frankly 50 over stuff has done its job, test cricket is better because of it, that I do not dispute, but now it has run its course, Twenty20 is more exciting and quicker and not trying to be anything that it isn't (i.e. a slog)
I kind of agree with this.
I think we need all formats of the game though, they each offer entertainment for different types of fans.
Adlerhorst
24-08-2007, 09:14 PM
Cool a slog - that's always fun. Will go and watch it
west country boy
24-08-2007, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by Adlerhorst
Because it's not cricket. And in ten years it will be dead - thank you twenty20 Cricket was originally a one-innings-a-side, one day thing. I think.
bradpitt
24-08-2007, 09:17 PM
Jesus what a 6!!!!
In the guttering
Adlerhorst
24-08-2007, 09:18 PM
Hell that went a long way
Adlerhorst
24-08-2007, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by west country boy
Cricket was originally a one-innings-a-side, one day thing. I think. it also had two stumps and no bails - what's your point?
Lizzy
24-08-2007, 09:27 PM
great first innings in ODI.
LLCOOLSTEVE
24-08-2007, 09:30 PM
Great chase from England, unlucky England
Lizzy
24-08-2007, 09:31 PM
great game. How anyone can say cricket is dull is beyond me.
embryo eagle
24-08-2007, 09:31 PM
Great last over from Broad as well. Get him in test team batting at 8.
bradpitt
24-08-2007, 09:32 PM
Good stuff, don't mind losing if you go down fighting
Adlerhorst
24-08-2007, 09:35 PM
Well the last five overs were great fun. Not a lot to do with cricket though.
maestro
24-08-2007, 09:36 PM
Decent enough effort, the spinners won it for India, Monty maybe a good test bowler but he's not in the same league as that Indain fella, lots of variation, I thought for an authentic finger spinner he was very impressive.
west country boy
24-08-2007, 09:37 PM
Originally posted by Adlerhorst
it also had two stumps and no bails - what's your point? Calm down love. I just meant that cricket (up until the mid 19th century I think, when it was pretty much like the game we know today) was a one day game, so to say that ODIs aren't real cricket is the sort of pompous guff that the likes of Michael Henderson come out with (not that I'm saying you're anything like him).
Also, and more importantly, did you get the geckoes in the end?
Adlerhorst
24-08-2007, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by maestro
Decent enough effort, the spinners won it for India, Monty maybe a good test batsmen but he's not in the same league as that Indain fella, lots of variation, I thought for an authentic finger spinner he was very impressive. i dunno - they seemed a fairly similar standard of fielder.
ps. i think monty is a better bowler. but not in one dayers.
1f86
bradpitt
24-08-2007, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by maestro
Decent enough effort, the spinners won it for India, Monty maybe a good test batsmen but he's not in the same league as that Indain fella, lots of variation, I thought for an authentic finger spinner he was very impressive.
Monty is a crap test batsman
maestro
24-08-2007, 09:41 PM
aah sh** sorry trying to type to fast, I meant test bowler
maestro
24-08-2007, 09:46 PM
Originally posted by Adlerhorst
i dunno - they seemed a fairly similar standard of fielder.
ps. i think monty is a better bowler. but not in one dayers.
Everyone raves about monty and he may be the best spinner we have but I think overal compared to other International spinners he's pretty average, he's accurate but not alot of turn, no variation in flight, no slower or quicker ball.
Certainly not in the same class as say Vettori
Adlerhorst
24-08-2007, 09:46 PM
Originally posted by west country boy
Also, and more importantly, did you get the geckoes in the end? It's a long story, but not yet - probably in March - i get a maserati and mrs adlerhorst gets some geckos. i think it is a fair all round.
Godstone Eagle
24-08-2007, 09:47 PM
Thoroughly enjoyed that..excellent game of cricket. Great effort from England to get that close to India's formidable total. Roll on the next ODI :)
Adlerhorst
24-08-2007, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by maestro
Everyone raves about monty and he may be the best spinner we have but I think overal compared to other International spinners he's pretty average, he's accurate but not alot of turn, no variation in flight, no slower or quicker ball.
Certainly not in the same class as say Vettori I dunno again. When he is not trying to bowl too quickly, which he does a fair bit too much, i think he has all of the above.
embryo eagle
24-08-2007, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by maestro
Everyone raves about monty and he may be the best spinner we have but I think overal compared to other International spinners he's pretty average, he's accurate but not alot of turn, no variation in flight, no slower or quicker ball.
Certainly not in the same class as say Vettori
I think that's a bit harsh. He's got plenty of turn in quite a few tests and a fair few lbws with his quicker ball. Agreed he's far from the finished article in one day cricket but he's hardly played any even at county level.
west country boy
24-08-2007, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by Adlerhorst
It's a long story, but not yet - probably in March - i get a maserati and mrs adlerhorst gets some geckos. i think it is a fair all round. Excellent.
maestro
24-08-2007, 10:00 PM
Possibly, when Ive seen him in ODI's hes almost bowled like a standard slow left armer than a spinner, very flat and quite quick, batsmen seem to be able to hit him down the ground at will.
Saying all that Tremlett certainly wasnt a better option, he went for 10 an over
Originally posted by Adlerhorst
I dunno again. When he is not trying to bowl too quickly, which he does a fair bit too much, i think he has all of the above.
Adlerhorst
24-08-2007, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by maestro
Possibly, when Ive seen him in ODI's hes almost bowled like a standard slow left armer than a spinner, very flat and quite quick, batsmen seem to be able to hit him down the ground at will.
Saying all that Tremlett certainly wasnt a better option, he went for 10 an over He bowls quicker when he is nervous or when he is being attacked - goes from low fifties to high fifties, and totally negates his loop and everything else. He'll learn not to do that in time.
maestro
24-08-2007, 10:27 PM
Maybe he needs to be set a more defensive field then to give him some confidence, certainly a long on and long off, let them get a few singles down the ground, if that encourages him to bowl slower he'll still be more effective then when he has an attacking field and starts bowling quick.
Anyway Is was good to see Mascarenhas bat well and also Broad looks quite handy with the bat which is a rare treat for a England bowler.
Next game Id swap Tremlett for Panasaear but other than that I think we have a pretty good side.
Originally posted by Adlerhorst
He bowls quicker when he is nervous or when he is being attacked - goes from low fifties to high fifties, and totally negates his loop and everything else. He'll learn not to do that in time.
Oddjob
25-08-2007, 12:00 AM
Can't play Bopara and Mascarenhas in the same ODI team for me.
Lose 1 and bring Monty back.
Preferably lose RB
maestro
25-08-2007, 08:54 AM
Bopara is in as a batsmen who can bowl a bit, not an allrounder.
We finally have some depth to our batting, I dont think its a good idea to Bring in Monty for someone who can bat.
Monti in for tremlett who was poor yesterday.
Absolution
25-08-2007, 09:01 AM
Tremlett isn't that brilliant a one-day bowler, much better at the longer version of the game I'd say.
He probably won't get many other chances in the side now anyway, providing we opt for a spinner alongside the three seamers.
I enjoyed that, but I still haven't seen England win in Bristol out of three ODI games now.
Mascarenhas massive 6 towards the end, onto the guttering is probably the biggest 6 I've seen at Nevil Road!
embryo eagle
27-08-2007, 10:57 AM
102-2 from 22 overs. A solid enough start but we're struggling against the spin again in the middle overs.
Godstone Eagle
27-08-2007, 01:12 PM
1f73
281-8..pretty good effort
Godstone Eagle
27-08-2007, 02:24 PM
Good effort from England with the ball too so far..India 36-2 after 11 overs
Chester
27-08-2007, 04:44 PM
"I am still here too, no Bank Holiday here in the BVI despite us being a British territory, what is that all about? Thought I would try and get a mention for our new team, the Wolues CC , who are due to have their first match in Antigua in a few weeks. Incidentally, we were named due to an unfortunate incident with a dyslexic shirt printer."
Matt, BVI, in the TMS inbox
:lux:
Lizzy
27-08-2007, 10:01 PM
Good win to go 2-1 up. Nice to see Bell consistently scoring runs but there does seem to be a lack of consistency especially from the other middle order batsmen.
I don't envy the selectors though at the moment - pretty decent squad to pick from (if they are all fit at once which seems to never be the case)
Absolution
27-08-2007, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by Lizzy
Good win to go 2-1 up. Nice to see Bell consistently scoring runs but there does seem to be a lack of consistency especially from the other middle order batsmen.
I don't envy the selectors though at the moment - pretty decent squad to pick from (if they are all fit at once which seems to never be the case) There is hardly a lack of consistency in the middle order, it's more a case of one batsman really outshining the others.
In the first ODI only 4 batsman featured, in the second everyone except Flintoff got starts at least (Mascarenhas with a 50) and today even Shah and Bopara with lower scores were in a position to really attack and got over a run a ball.
I guess the others are taking a backseat to Bell at the moment, but hopefully if he isn't leading the way someone can still take control of the innings!
Lizzy
27-08-2007, 10:36 PM
I dont' disagree. Just think that we should making much better use of the powerplays.
I reckon the Indians must be a bit sick that the pitch didn't swing today , anyone winning the toss with a 10.15 start would choose to bowl first but it didnt' really help them much today. Pitch looked like it was seaming a bit but not swinging much.
maestro
28-08-2007, 08:54 PM
Good win the other day, the opener bowlers were brilliant and right on the money striaght away which is unusual for England!
Nest game I think I would nring flintoff in for tremlett who im not convinced about in ODI
I think id leave shah in, he's quite a good player of spin and I think thats important vd India but he needs to bat higher up to take the strike during the middle overs.
Steve in Phoenix
28-08-2007, 09:45 PM
Despite Bell's run of form, I'd like to see Shah batting at no.3. He has the versatility to either dig in and accumulate or hit out in the powerplays. Bell cannot really slog and it hurts us when both Bell and Cook are playing cautiously for too long. They have built some excellent platforms but havent accelerated beyond that. Since Bell isnt moving because of his good form, we could try Shah and Prior swapping roles.
maestro
28-08-2007, 10:01 PM
I think id leave Bell, he takes time to get himself goping so better up up the order.
Id liek to see Shah at 4 though to come in to bat when the spinners are on, id move Pieterson down to 5.
Oddjob
29-08-2007, 08:44 PM
Anyone going to the game at The Oval next week?
maestro
30-08-2007, 01:15 PM
Flintoff comes in for Tremlett, looks a very strong batting lineup, I think shah should be higher up though.
Team
Cook
Prior
Bell
Pieterson
Collingwood
Flintoff
Shah
Bopora
Broad
Anderson
Panasear
Godstone Eagle
30-08-2007, 01:49 PM
India 17-1..Ganguly out.
Stavros 69
30-08-2007, 02:25 PM
Just turned on and Freddie warming up the guns.
Stavros 69
30-08-2007, 02:28 PM
And he strikes, Adler suck my big one.
Godstone Eagle
30-08-2007, 02:29 PM
Dravid gone, England all over India at the moment :)
PauLo
30-08-2007, 02:31 PM
33-3. awesome!
why am i always at work when the good games are on though :(
maestro
30-08-2007, 03:23 PM
India 76-3 after 25 overs
Godstone Eagle
30-08-2007, 03:41 PM
4 down...Oh dear Sachin:o
maestro
30-08-2007, 04:17 PM
5 down, Dhoni bowled by Panasaer
Godstone Eagle
30-08-2007, 04:20 PM
Fantastic delivery from Monty there
Godstone Eagle
30-08-2007, 05:52 PM
Cook out 1st over..England 0-1 chasing 213
oz_da II
30-08-2007, 06:02 PM
Can't keep, can't bat.
maestro
30-08-2007, 06:02 PM
14-2, making hard work of it!
PauLo
30-08-2007, 06:16 PM
35-3
really making hard work of it...
maestro
30-08-2007, 06:16 PM
2019
35-3, I cant beleive teh shots the batmen are playing, its ludicrous, just stay in and we'll get the runs!
oz_da II
30-08-2007, 06:18 PM
What shot?
maestro
30-08-2007, 06:57 PM
Was talking about previous shots from the batsmen, bell kept swiping and nicked it twice.
Now Pieterson is out going for a big shot! 81-4
oz_da II
30-08-2007, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by maestro
Was talking about previous shots from the batsmen, bell kept swiping and nicked it twice.
I was talking about Bell's "non-shot". :clown:
Better than KP's shot though. :D
StudentEagle
30-08-2007, 07:07 PM
Oh for ••••'s sake Freddie
oz_da II
30-08-2007, 07:07 PM
Hehehe, back to the nets, Freddy.
That was terrible. :D
kolinkins
30-08-2007, 07:07 PM
95-5.
Why oh why wasnt Shah in at 6?
maestro
30-08-2007, 07:08 PM
I said I cant beleive teh shots teh batmen are playing, I wasnt talking specifically about the ball which got bell out.
Flintoff out now, god he looked like a number 11 out there, never seen him look so awkward, should be batted at 8, atthe moment he's just putting pressure on the side, now 95-5
oz_da II
30-08-2007, 07:11 PM
Originally posted by maestro
I said I cant beleive teh shots teh batmen are playing, I wasnt talking specifically about the ball which got bell out.
Apologies, my comment appears to have gone right over your head. :moo:
maestro
30-08-2007, 07:15 PM
Ok whatever, im not in the mood to argue
Shah in now, need a partnership
maestro
30-08-2007, 07:28 PM
shah gone. I think thats it now tbh
Lizzy
30-08-2007, 07:28 PM
ah now we have a problem. Need the tail to wag in a big way now
Stavros 69
30-08-2007, 07:34 PM
Collingwood leaves the ball very late to play.
maestro
30-08-2007, 07:39 PM
Collingwood run out,
Just when you think the ODI is looking good we bat like this! need a miracle now
Stavros 69
30-08-2007, 07:40 PM
that was woeful running. Never a run there
maestro
30-08-2007, 07:41 PM
Its not as is we need to get the run rate down either!
Godstone Eagle
30-08-2007, 08:35 PM
Under 50 now to win... 50 partnership between Broad and Bopara
Lizzy
30-08-2007, 08:47 PM
Stuart Broad shows a lot of maturity in his batting. The others could learn from him.
Pistike
30-08-2007, 08:57 PM
20 to win.
Godstone Eagle
30-08-2007, 09:01 PM
13 to win now
Pistike
30-08-2007, 09:07 PM
Shame I was selfishly hoping for a Indian win so that the Headingly ODi was more competitive. Oh well will have to make do with beer and curry instead.
Lizzy
30-08-2007, 09:16 PM
talk about the Great Escape!! :) :)
Godstone Eagle
30-08-2007, 09:29 PM
Excellent stuff from Bopara and Broad :) :lux: Both put the top order to shame..
maestro
30-08-2007, 09:30 PM
Broad and Bopora absolutely brilliant!! really impressed with Broads batting, he should bat higher than flintoff for sure, could be a genuine allrounder.
Godstone Eagle
30-08-2007, 09:37 PM
Broad has got to be in the Test Team...we desperately need a bowler who can bat, and he would fill the no8 spot perfectly:p
Absolution
30-08-2007, 10:23 PM
Broad and Bopara both have to be on the plane to Sri Lanka. Great win all in all by the sounds of it. Shame I had to miss the second half of the game down to work :(
oz_da II
31-08-2007, 06:00 AM
Originally posted by Godstone Eagle
Broad has got to be in the Test Team...we desperately need a bowler who can bat, and he would fill the no8 spot perfectly:p
You know your test team is in trouble if you are desperate for someone who can bat at 8.
Oisin
31-08-2007, 06:17 AM
So it looks like we'll beat India in the ODI series, the one they really care about, and we beat them in the tests, which is what they really care about.
Judging by the fact India didn't even make the Super 8s at the CWC they aren't that great. England really threw away the test series.
Ruskin Old Boy
31-08-2007, 08:59 AM
Originally posted by Pistike
Shame I was selfishly hoping for a Indian win so that the Headingly ODi was more competitive. Oh well will have to make do with beer and curry instead.
Similar point of view - have tickets for Lords next Saturday and was hoping for the series being tied going into the match.
1fb7
Stavros 69
31-08-2007, 01:34 PM
Really great game, watched it past my bed time. Well done.
Godstone Eagle
31-08-2007, 10:41 PM
Originally posted by oz_da II
You know your test team is in trouble if you are desperate for someone who can bat at 8.
Weve been desperate for someone in that position for a long time...not something new.
Adlerhorst
01-09-2007, 12:47 AM
Originally posted by Absolution
Broad and Bopara both have to be on the plane to Sri Lanka. Great win all in all by the sounds of it. Shame I had to miss the second half of the game down to work :( I wouldn't take Broad anywhere unless he is going to be playing. He'd be better of on the A tour to wherever if he is just going to be carrying the drinks on the main tour (which he probably would be)
maestro
02-09-2007, 10:14 AM
Flintoff out and Jon Lewis in today, flintoffs ankle has gone again from teh sounds of it :sob:
Cant understand opening the bowling with lewis, he warming them up bowling at 75 mph!
Godstone Eagle
02-09-2007, 10:26 AM
Very strange decision from Collingwood to open the bowling with Lewis, and its backfired spectacularly!
embryo eagle
02-09-2007, 11:50 AM
Shocking decision from the umpire off Monty. It was a massive nick.
bradpitt
02-09-2007, 12:16 PM
They look like raking up a big one
maestro
02-09-2007, 01:06 PM
I see Bopora is injured, that will be huge blow if he cannot bat.
Godstone Eagle
02-09-2007, 01:17 PM
I dont think Bopara will be batting.. he's now a major doubt for the Twenty20 World Cup
Brett
02-09-2007, 01:17 PM
Joke bowling.
Godstone Eagle
02-09-2007, 02:00 PM
Englands batsmen giving the Indians some catching practice at the moment..
bradpitt
02-09-2007, 02:51 PM
Collapse alert
Godstone Eagle
02-09-2007, 02:58 PM
4 down at the moment...at the rate the last three wickets have fallen, should be all out in about 15 mins!
Godstone Eagle
02-09-2007, 03:13 PM
Rain saving England at the moment..
maestro
02-09-2007, 04:15 PM
Shah out, he didnt look upto much today.
I think thats it now cant see another miracle happening!
Godstone Eagle
02-09-2007, 06:42 PM
Great knock by Collingwood, shame the rain prevented him from getting a century which he deserved, but India fully deserved to win..keeps the series alive
maestro
02-09-2007, 06:55 PM
I missed the last hour, I see Bopara did bat, did they say how long he will be out for?
I thought we desperately missed flintoff, without him the bowling attack looks a bit toothless, wasnt really impressed by Lewis and his medium pace
Godstone Eagle
02-09-2007, 07:58 PM
Nothing at the moment regarding the time Bopara will be out for..assessing it over the next 24 hours or so.
Flintoff is a big miss in the bowling attack...dont understand why Lewis opened the attack, he took a right hammering off Ganguly and particularly Tendulkar. Not convinced at all about Shah either. Dont understand why Mascheranas(sp) has suddenly been left out in the cold either.
maestro
02-09-2007, 08:25 PM
At first I was impressed by shah, he seemed to play the spinners really well but after that he's not dont much, I was suprised to see his average is only about 20 somethign aswell.
Originally posted by Godstone Eagle
Nothing at the moment regarding the time Bopara will be out for..assessing it over the next 24 hours or so.
Flintoff is a big miss in the bowling attack...dont understand why Lewis opened the attack, he took a right hammering off Ganguly and particularly Tendulkar. Not convinced at all about Shah either. Dont understand why Mascheranas(sp) has suddenly been left out in the cold either.
Oddjob
03-09-2007, 09:04 AM
Have to admit to being kinda pleased India won as we are going on Weds and it keeps the series very much alive.
Weather looks perfect as well, lets just hope we get in.
lightweight
03-09-2007, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by Oddjob
Have to admit to being kinda pleased India won as we are going on Weds and it keeps the series very much alive.
Weather looks perfect as well, lets just hope we get in.
wot he said - tubes not looking too good for you though :(
Oddjob
03-09-2007, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by lightweight
wot he said - tubes not looking too good for you though :(
Think I might have to concrete it, or get a bus, christ know what one though.
Oddjob
03-09-2007, 10:50 AM
Woo hoo !
If the strike goes ahead it will affect services from this afternoon until late on Thursday. The Jubilee, Northern and Piccadilly lines should run as normal, but will be very crowded. If possible, please complete travel by 1700 today or use an alternative
Its only 8 mins so I am sure I can survive.
Oddjob
03-09-2007, 12:24 PM
1f9e
Just got Collingwood at 7/1 to be top Eng scorer and MSD at 14/1 for India.
Good prices methinks.
stevek
03-09-2007, 12:28 PM
I think we'll get the overground to Vauxhall.
Oddjob
03-09-2007, 12:30 PM
I will risk the Northern line, its not long after all, and I intend to leave plenty of time in the event of any (ahem) problems within the ground.
Absolution
03-09-2007, 09:42 PM
Luke Wright called up, I reckon he could be a good one day player for us.
Not sure how good he is bowling-wise but he can bat!
maestro
03-09-2007, 11:03 PM
Goog call up imo! they should definately give him a go if Bopara is out, its about time we had real competition for places!
Adlerhorst
04-09-2007, 08:15 AM
Surprised it didn't go to Alex Gidman actually.
NB. Foster was very good for Essex yesterday (again). Someone who can keep and bat, couldn't pick anyone like that for England.
Absolution
04-09-2007, 01:41 PM
I'm sure it is because Wright is part of the Twenty20 squad.
maestro
05-09-2007, 09:34 AM
England back to their old ways, both openers out within 4 overs, prior had a shocker of a lbs decision go against him tbf.
Luke wright comes in and there batting his at number 7! thats mental, bat prior down there and let Wright open, thats what he's good at!
Absolution
05-09-2007, 09:38 AM
Wright has come in to cover Bopara, why should we mess about with the top of the order?
Hindsight is wonderful, but you can see why they've done it.
Justy C
05-09-2007, 09:41 AM
From the BBC regarding Freddie:
"His place in Saturday's final match and the World Twenty20 is in doubt and England will make an announcement on his future later on Wednesday."
That doesn't sound good, gutted for him.
Stavros 69
05-09-2007, 09:53 AM
OOH is it on today ?? Something for me to watch.
maestro
05-09-2007, 10:01 AM
Oh dear that doesnt dound good at all, wouldnt be suprised if they gave him a complete break for 6 months or something
Originally posted by Justy C
From the BBC regarding Freddie:
"His place in Saturday's final match and the World Twenty20 is in doubt and England will make an announcement on his future later on Wednesday."
That doesn't sound good, gutted for him.
maestro
05-09-2007, 10:03 AM
Although he's come in for Bopora hes a top order batsman, I thinks its simular to AJ coming in for England and then being asked to play out wide, its not his natural position.
Prior could bat at 7 and wright open, thats what I would have gone with.
Originally posted by Absolution
Wright has come in to cover Bopara, why should we mess about with the top of the order?
Hindsight is wonderful, but you can see why they've done it.
oz_da II
05-09-2007, 10:06 AM
Dickhead bowling to dickhead.
C'mon dickhead get him out. :p
Dickhead hits dickhead in the Jatz! :lux:
oz_da II
05-09-2007, 10:20 AM
Lucky Bell...
Stavros 69
05-09-2007, 10:30 AM
balls
maestro
05-09-2007, 10:31 AM
bell gone on 49, he seems to get a bit carried away! not a bad innings though
oz_da II
05-09-2007, 10:32 AM
Shot, Belly.
Chawla looks decent, only 18 as well.
Godstone Eagle
05-09-2007, 10:33 AM
Absolute shocker from Bell...irresponsible.
Stavros 69
05-09-2007, 10:36 AM
double balls
Stavros 69
05-09-2007, 10:36 AM
Totally unfair, shouldn't be out. Bloodt big screen
oz_da II
05-09-2007, 10:37 AM
On your bike Collywobbles!!!! :lux:
Godstone Eagle
05-09-2007, 10:37 AM
Shocking umpiring..
oz_da II
05-09-2007, 10:38 AM
Terrible run, terrible throw, nice take, keep walking Paul. :p
maestro
05-09-2007, 10:38 AM
OOOH thats out of order
India or the umpires never called for the 3rd umpire on a close run aout call.
Then they see the reply on the big screen and after they see it is out it then gets reffered to the video guy.
Not on imo
oz_da II
05-09-2007, 10:39 AM
Originally posted by Godstone Eagle
Shocking umpiring..
Agree with that, especially for the amount of times they call for the 3rd umpire for clear cut decisions.
maestro
05-09-2007, 10:41 AM
Its so frustrating to watch England, they seem to be going well and then throw there wickets away.
oz_da II
05-09-2007, 10:41 AM
1fd1
Originally posted by maestro
OOOH thats out of order
India or the umpires never called for the 3rd umpire on a close run aout call.
Then they see the reply on the big screen and after they see it is out it then gets reffered to the video guy.
Not on imo
You can appeal up until the next delivery.
Godstone Eagle
05-09-2007, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by maestro
Its so frustrating to watch England, they seem to be going well and then throw there wickets away.
Bell's moment of lunacy has changed the game
pete eagle
05-09-2007, 10:44 AM
Originally posted by oz_da II
You can appeal up until the next delivery.
Replay shouldn't be shown though, has to be based on onfield decisions and only the umpires can refer.
maestro
05-09-2007, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by oz_da II
You can appeal up until the next delivery.
They did appeal and the umpire decided not to call the 3rd umpire, they Indian accepted it as they thought he was in, then the reply came up and India kicked up as fuss and the umpires changed there minds.
I dont think its right imo, the videoscreen isnt designed for that, the replys shouldnt have shown untill the incident is over, I bet the guy in charge of that will be out of a job soon :o
oz_da II
05-09-2007, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by pete eagle
Replay shouldn't be shown though, has to be based on onfield decisions and only the umpires can refer.
Where does it say that? I don't think there is any reference to a "jumbotron" in the rules of cricket.
oz_da II
05-09-2007, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by maestro
They did appeal and the umpire decided not to call the 3rd umpire, they Indian accepted it as they thought he was in, then the reply came up and India kicked up as fuss and the umpires changed there minds.
Not sure they kicked up a fuss, they just appealed again, they can appeal as many times as they want (within reason) up until the next delivery.
Godstone Eagle
05-09-2007, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by oz_da II
Where does it say that? I don't think there is any reference to a "jumbotron" in the rules of cricket.
No point in the umpires making any decisions then.. just wait until the replays are shown on the screen to determine if the batsman is out or not.
pete eagle
05-09-2007, 10:49 AM
The television replay is used by the third umpire not the umpire, the umpire onfield refers it up when he isn't sure of what he has seen with his eyes not then to look at the tv screen and think ooh hang on a sec.
oz_da II
05-09-2007, 10:51 AM
Originally posted by Godstone Eagle
No point in the umpires making any decisions then.. just wait until the replays are shown on the screen to determine if the batsman is out or not.
It's not far off that now, no idea why he didn't call for the 3rd umpire in the first place.
Stavros 69
05-09-2007, 10:51 AM
Oz_da is there anyone in particualr you hate or is it just becuase your and auzzie ??
oz_da II
05-09-2007, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by pete eagle
The television replay is used by the third umpire not the umpire, the umpire onfield refers it up when he isn't sure of what he has seen with his eyes not then to look at the tv screen and think ooh hang on a sec.
Replay now shows umpire asking for 3rd umpire, all sorted now. :p
oz_da II
05-09-2007, 10:53 AM
Originally posted by Stavros 69
Oz_da is there anyone in particualr you hate or is it just becuase your and auzzie ??
Don't hate anyone, dislike is a better word. :p
maestro
05-09-2007, 10:57 AM
After the 2nd appeal once the indians saw the reply though, originally they didnt bother.
Im all for technology in cricket but untill it does come in full tilt replys shouldnt be shown to teh crowd that canstill influence on field decisions untill the incident is over.
As shown on sky, England did that earlier in the test series so we cant really complain.
oz_da II
05-09-2007, 10:59 AM
Gower making a very good point.
maestro
05-09-2007, 11:00 AM
Oz-Da11, whats up with yoru captain Ricky pointing? I heard he's stayed at home, not another Harmison is he?
oz_da II
05-09-2007, 11:02 AM
It's circus cricket, maestro.
Nice try though...
maestro
05-09-2007, 11:09 AM
Im not taking the piss but you guys have got quite a few players out havent you?
Ponting, Tait, isnt Lee injured aswell?, plus no McGrath! other side might have a chance!
Stavros 69
05-09-2007, 11:09 AM
Will someone do the world a favour and kill Nasser Hussain
oz_da II
05-09-2007, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by maestro
Im not taking the piss but you guys have got quite a few players out havent you?
Ponting, Tait, isnt Lee injured aswell?, plus no McGrath! other side might have a chance!
Any country has a chance, 20/20 is a bit of a lottery.
Adlerhorst
05-09-2007, 11:26 AM
Very loud no from Shah that KP decided to ignore for some reason.
maestro
05-09-2007, 11:26 AM
LOL at the run out Im not sure I can watch this anymore.
we were just building a partnership again!
Oh well!
598
Godstone Eagle
05-09-2007, 11:31 AM
What a suprise..England throwing wickets away as usual.
oz_da II
05-09-2007, 11:32 AM
Originally posted by Adlerhorst
KP decided to ignore for some reason.
I still believe England are a better XI without him.
Lizzy
05-09-2007, 11:54 AM
I think we could still make a pretty decent score - there is still a bit of batting to come esp Broad who has the ability to make a quick 30 or so in a few overs.
Lizzy
05-09-2007, 11:54 AM
Luke Wright doing well so far too.
RickyB
05-09-2007, 11:58 AM
Wright going along very nicely indeed! six 4's, one 6 for his 38 so far :lux:
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