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eagle1980
11-08-2011, 06:43 PM
give the youngsters a chance
if we dont give them a chance now. i guess we never will
kolinkins
11-08-2011, 06:49 PM
Erm...
At the last count and in no particular order:
Iversen
Murray
Scannell
Zaha
Easter
Pinney
Sekajja
Andrew
and now Kuqi.
Generally no more than two start. So when do we get swamped?
You've totally missed the point.
We have Iversen and Murray who can do the hold up role from that list and with both injured, we are indeed in need of someone to come in and do a job
AddiscombeCPFC
11-08-2011, 06:52 PM
Erm...
At the last count and in no particular order:
Iversen
Murray
Scannell
Zaha
Easter
Pinney
Sekajja
Andrew
and now Kuqi.
Generally no more than two start. So when do we get swamped?
Zaha, Pinney and Sekajja are young and whilst exciting players full of potenital, their form will fluctuate and they will need to be used sparingly. Good squad players and definitely ones for the future, but we cant rely on them to be a constant source of goals this season.
Easter and Andrew are extremely average and IMO not good enough for the championship. I would rather Kuqi up front then either of these two players.
Iversen has got experience but is ancient and has zero pace and not the greatest stamina. Can do a job but like the youngsters, will need to be used sparingly. Hardly a reknowned goalscorer either really.
That leaves Murray and Scannell, who are (again IMO) the best two we have at the club - which sort of illustrates the point Im trying to make. Murray has never done it before at Championship level and the jury is still out on Scannell, this really is his make or break year.
We may have the numbers, but on current form and ability, we dont have the quality. Maybe I should've said that we're not swamped with quality strikers. Not saying Kuqi is the answer, and I think it is a failing of the management to sort this out before now, but he could be a low risk option.
A Wooden Fish On Wheels
11-08-2011, 06:57 PM
F*ck me. Not that c*nt Kuqi? Seriously??? The season has STARTED and we don't seem to be anywhere near ready and are pissing about with idiots like Kuqi? Blimey. This is going to be a bloody tough season :(
AddiscombeCPFC
11-08-2011, 06:58 PM
This is going to be a bloody tough season :(
No shit sherlock!:D
A Wooden Fish On Wheels
11-08-2011, 06:59 PM
No shit sherlock!:D You've gotta laugh I suppose :D Oh crap :D
Little Fozzie
11-08-2011, 07:01 PM
Because i've watched us play plenty of times since he's been in charge...?
So you saw the games in which he kept us up then? :rolleyes:
mong
Stellavista
11-08-2011, 07:12 PM
Yep there is a long queue of potential buyers at the club shop as we speak right now.
I'm aware of the difficulty of getting people to invest in lower league football right now. CPFC2010 knew the realities of the business when they took it on. You clearly don't.
If you buy a failing business, selling an inferior product, with little financial return, what do you do? You don't keep running it as it was, and hope that people are still hoodwinked into buying sh*t.
You invest in the business, and make that product more attractive. Obviously, it's nice if you can add a lick of paint to the facilities, and improve the filling in the pies, but the core of this business is the team. That's where the investment is needed.
Bearing in mind that we've fallen behind because of lack of investment in this key area, and that the new rules around income/purchase of players is on the horizon, I would suggest that an urgent injection of cash into the core product is essential, if the club is to grow. A more attractive product will mean better gates and higher income. It's a no brainer.
The alternative is for CPFC 2010 to stand outside the main stand burning tenners at a modest, but increasing, rate for the next ten years.
orp pisshead1
11-08-2011, 07:17 PM
We'v had teams in the past that have played with width, fluidity and aggression.
Basics of football and we don't even know how to play it:grrr:
Shit football will lead to shit crowds end of.
cp eagles
11-08-2011, 07:19 PM
If reports are true Murrays out for 4 weeks something has to be done. I can understand people wanting Pinney, Sekajja to start games but personally we cant expect them to make much impact. I think this goes for Zaha he was rushed into the 1st team too early and for me still has a lot to learn he may have pace but thats about it his finishing is shocking at times. Maybe someone like Kuqi on a short term bases can take a bit of pressure of these players and help bed them in slowly instead of rushing them in.
Typical Palace
11-08-2011, 07:20 PM
Shall we get Nigel Martyn back as cover for Jules?
Yes!
Stellavista
11-08-2011, 07:21 PM
If reports are true Murrays out for 4 weeks something has to be done. I can understand people wanting Pinney, Sekajja to start games but personally we cant expect them to make much impact. I think this goes for Zaha he was rushed into the 1st team too early and for me still has a lot to learn he may have pace but thats about it his finishing is shocking at times. Maybe someone like Kuqi on a short term bases can take a bit of pressure of these players and help bed them in slowly instead of rushing them in.
If we do this, then there is no longer any argument for retaining either Easter or Andrew.
1f63
orp pisshead1
11-08-2011, 07:23 PM
So you saw the games in which he kept us up then? :rolleyes:
mong
I think he's argument is the "style" of football we play, i honestly think DF is the man for this job but he must form a style of football imo. All we ask for is we give it a go and not be frightend of teams, people forget despite our recent troubles we're one of the most established teams in the championship so nowt to be frightend of. As stellavista says width,energy and aggression is what we need.
cp eagles
11-08-2011, 07:26 PM
If we do this, then there is no longer any argument for retaining either Easter or Andrew.
Im not saying I agree with the signing Kuqi but facts are there he scores goals
Typical Palace
11-08-2011, 07:26 PM
Scored some quality goals for us there.
God that soundtrack's dreadful
The Gerry Queen
11-08-2011, 07:34 PM
If reports are true Murrays out for 4 weeks something has to be done. I can understand people wanting Pinney, Sekajja to start games but personally we cant expect them to make much impact. I think this goes for Zaha he was rushed into the 1st team too early and for me still has a lot to learn he may have pace but thats about it his finishing is shocking at times. Maybe someone like Kuqi on a short term bases can take a bit of pressure of these players and help bed them in slowly instead of rushing them in.
Agree completely with this. However Freedman was saying that Murray was probably less than 50/50 for Saturday with a twisted ankle. Didn't sound like a month out to me. Hopefully Freedman was telling the truth and not just what the fans wanted to hear.
The Good Man
11-08-2011, 07:34 PM
Im not saying I agree with the signing Kuqi but facts are there he scores goals
Not really.
cp eagles
11-08-2011, 07:38 PM
Not really.
Compared to Easter and Andrew he does
A Wooden Fish On Wheels
11-08-2011, 07:45 PM
He is meat with eyes.
rainbow_child
11-08-2011, 08:00 PM
He did well at the end of his Palace spell and was an asset.
Since he left us he's played in the Premier league for Fulham & Newcastle, he can't as bad as is made out.
If Kuqi signs a short term deal then get behind him, and the rest of the lads :lux:
JDawg
11-08-2011, 08:00 PM
You've totally missed the point.
We have Iversen and Murray who can do the hold up role from that list and with both injured, we are indeed in need of someone to come in and do a job
Calvin Andrew and, surprisingly, Sean Scannell.
Next
glaziers fan
11-08-2011, 08:04 PM
Andrew will do a job equal to Easter. Not a terrific job, but he'd be comparable.
JDawg
11-08-2011, 08:08 PM
HAs it occurred to anyone that we aren't splashing the cash with players because the wage bill is already over-burdened?
We have eight strikers. Two strikers are injured yet we don't have cover from the remaining six so we have to hire somebody in. On this basis shouldn't we be talking about whom we get rid of?
orp pisshead1
11-08-2011, 08:29 PM
Andrew will do a job equal to Easter. Not a terrific job, but he'd be comparable.
Ignoring the fact they are both league 1 standard sadly.
orp pisshead1
11-08-2011, 08:30 PM
HAs it occurred to anyone that we aren't splashing the cash with players because the wage bill is already over-burdened?
We have eight strikers. Two strikers are injured yet we don't have cover from the remaining six so we have to hire somebody in. On this basis shouldn't we be talking about whom we get rid of?
Andrew n Easter should be off imo.
cpfcfan1
11-08-2011, 08:32 PM
Off the Hol!
Hi there all just be informed by a good friend of mine who is on trial with crystal palace at the moment. He's played 2 games and training with them. He has said Shefki really is a talent and is scoring goals for fun in training. Even though my mate is training in the 'development between youth and first team players' which consists of 8 players such as ibra. He seems to rate kuqi may surely be worth a month deal?
PalaceBhoy
11-08-2011, 08:46 PM
HAs it occurred to anyone that we aren't splashing the cash with players because the wage bill is already over-burdened?
We have eight strikers. Two strikers are injured yet we don't have cover from the remaining six so we have to hire somebody in. On this basis shouldn't we be talking about whom we get rid of?
I agree. It does seem to be quantity over quality in extended squad terms at the moment. I'd happily lose half this squad without even batting an eyelid and replace them with half a dozen quality players that we could no doubt afford with the wagebill reduction.
AJ's right boot
11-08-2011, 08:50 PM
He is meat with eyes.
:D
Danny boy
11-08-2011, 08:53 PM
I agree. It does seem to be quantity over quality in extended squad terms at the moment. I'd happily lose half this squad without even batting an eyelid and replace them with half a dozen quality players that we could no doubt afford with the wagebill reduction.
this there's just so much shit in our squad.
SE25Eagle
11-08-2011, 08:56 PM
Im not saying I agree with the signing Kuqi but facts are there he scores goals
For who...?
thereichstuff
11-08-2011, 09:01 PM
For who...? us hopefully .
1f7a
F*ck me. Not that c*nt Kuqi? Seriously??? The season has STARTED and we don't seem to be anywhere near ready and are pissing about with idiots like Kuqi? Blimey. This is going to be a bloody tough season :(
Exactly.
Why not get f*cking Akinbiyi back as well - What a f*cking 'dream team' that would be.
Probably the 2 worst players £ for £ (i know it's not their fault the fees we paid for them) we've ever had.
Completely over-rated, over-paid and when fans (you know, us poor saps who pay their f*cking wages) had the temerity to point out their perfromance & attitude was not what it might be, they both descended into behaviour of sulky little kids but were still happy to draw their massive wages.
Kuqi was sh*t last time round - He's hardly gonna get any better all of a sudden.
Rather stick the f*cking youth team out.
SE25Eagle
11-08-2011, 09:03 PM
So you saw the games in which he kept us up then? :rolleyes:
mong
lol, he never kept us up, the teams around us done that for us, he couldn't even motivate a side to beat Scunthorpe at ours what was our biggest game of the season, he aint got a clue what he is doing, take the glasses off you div, great player for us without a doubt, but manager...? he aint got a clue, he's had 3 months of pre season and the team looks unfit and clueless, and to top it all off he signs and plays 3 defenders the day before the season starts, and now he wants to sign one of the most disrespectful, overpaid, useless ****s we've ever had at the club.... and cpfc2010 wonder why we get shit crowds.
JAS78
11-08-2011, 09:06 PM
lol, he never kept us up, the teams around us done that for us, he couldn't even motivate a side to beat Scunthorpe at ours what was our biggest game of the season, he aint got a clue what he is doing, take the glasses off you div, great player for us without a doubt, but manager...? he aint got a clue, he's had 3 months of pre season and the team looks unfit and clueless, and to top it all off he signs and plays 3 defenders the day before the season starts, and now he wants to sign one of the most disrespectful, overpaid, useless ****s we've ever had at the club.... and cpfc2010 wonder why we get shit crowds.
when would you like him removed from his post ?
who would you like him replaced with ?
serious questions
JDawg
11-08-2011, 09:07 PM
Got slagged earlier but if we do need to hire somebody in this mould who isn't playing regularly at the moment, there is always somebody who is two years younger, better, works a lot harder and is the master of the hold up and flick on and is a legend.
It would be great as a loan move and I'm sure Lee Clark wouldn't object. Trouble is having used up three slots already it may hurt us later on.
Still, it's a thought.
You know who I mean.
The Omen
11-08-2011, 09:16 PM
:(
Benzhiyi
11-08-2011, 09:30 PM
He used to be shite, but now......
..... he's even more shite?
milky87
11-08-2011, 09:30 PM
lol, he never kept us up, the teams around us done that for us, he couldn't even motivate a side to beat Scunthorpe at ours what was our biggest game of the season, he aint got a clue what he is doing, take the glasses off you div, great player for us without a doubt, but manager...? he aint got a clue, he's had 3 months of pre season and the team looks unfit and clueless, and to top it all off he signs and plays 3 defenders the day before the season starts, and now he wants to sign one of the most disrespectful, overpaid, useless ****s we've ever had at the club.... and cpfc2010 wonder why we get shit crowds.
Biggest pile of bollox I have ever read.
I would rather get sh*t crowds than have it full of pricks like you
Danny boy
11-08-2011, 09:33 PM
lol, he never kept us up, the teams around us done that for us, he couldn't even motivate a side to beat Scunthorpe at ours what was our biggest game of the season, he aint got a clue what he is doing, take the glasses off you div, great player for us without a doubt, but manager...? he aint got a clue, he's had 3 months of pre season and the team looks unfit and clueless, and to top it all off he signs and plays 3 defenders the day before the season starts, and now he wants to sign one of the most disrespectful, overpaid, useless ****s we've ever had at the club.... and cpfc2010 wonder why we get shit crowds.
:D
JDawg
11-08-2011, 09:36 PM
lol, he never kept us up, the teams around us done that for us, he couldn't even motivate a side to beat Scunthorpe at ours what was our biggest game of the season, he aint got a clue what he is doing, take the glasses off you div, great player for us without a doubt, but manager...? he aint got a clue, he's had 3 months of pre season and the team looks unfit and clueless, and to top it all off he signs and plays 3 defenders the day before the season starts, and now he wants to sign one of the most disrespectful, overpaid, useless ****s we've ever had at the club.... and cpfc2010 wonder why we get shit crowds.
I so hope we win on Saturday. The BBS will not be a happy place if not.
cpfcfan1
11-08-2011, 09:36 PM
lol, he never kept us up, the teams around us done that for us, he couldn't even motivate a side to beat Scunthorpe at ours what was our biggest game of the season, he aint got a clue what he is doing, take the glasses off you div, great player for us without a doubt, but manager...? he aint got a clue, he's had 3 months of pre season and the team looks unfit and clueless, and to top it all off he signs and plays 3 defenders the day before the season starts, and now he wants to sign one of the most disrespectful, overpaid, useless ****s we've ever had at the club.... and cpfc2010 wonder why we get shit crowds.
and im feeling...
SE25Eagle
11-08-2011, 09:37 PM
when would you like him removed from his post ?
who would you like him replaced with ?
serious questions
As soon as possible, Anyone with more experience.
SE25Eagle
11-08-2011, 09:38 PM
Biggest pile of bollox I have ever read.
I would rather get sh*t crowds than have it full of pricks like you
Shut up little boy.
1f66
Danny boy
11-08-2011, 09:39 PM
As soon as possible, Anyone with more experience.
After he kept us up
Nice...........
SE25Eagle
11-08-2011, 09:39 PM
I so hope we win on Saturday. The BBS will not be a happy place if not.
So do i obviously, but can you see it happening...?
cpfcfan1
11-08-2011, 09:39 PM
my farts stink
SE25Eagle
11-08-2011, 09:40 PM
After he kept us up
Nice...........
He'll take us down this year, you watch.
herts_palace
11-08-2011, 09:43 PM
As soon as possible, Anyone with more experience.
Enlighten us with some suggestions.
As soon as possible, Anyone with more experience.
**** me, I am not happy about Kuqi coming back-but f*ck you for having a dig at Freedman. He has so far achieved his objective of keeping us up and will now set about trying to improve us. Seems to me you don't get what it is to support a club like ours and should politely f*ck off
milky87
11-08-2011, 09:47 PM
Shut up little boy.
:S: :S: :S: :S:
Dan A
11-08-2011, 09:48 PM
Shut up little boy.
The only little boy here is you, so give it a rest and go to bed.
SE25Eagle
11-08-2011, 09:49 PM
**** me, I am not happy about Kuqi coming back-but f*ck you for having a dig at Freedman. He has so far achieved his objective of keeping us up and will now set about trying to improve us. Seems to me you don't get what it is to support a club like ours and should politely f*ck off
lol, not at all my friend, when i spend my hard earned cash on me and my 4 kids to to watch the team i support i expect them to try and give something back by at least trying, win or lose i dont really mind as long as i've seen them TRY, sadly i haven't seen this at Selhurst Park for a long time, so i think i've got the right to my opinion, i took my kids to the game last week and i've got them asking me why we're so crap...? how can i answer that...? and people wonder why our locals support Chelsea/Arsenal/Man U etc. etc. ?
SE25Eagle
11-08-2011, 09:49 PM
The only little boy here is you, so give it a rest and go to bed.
Na, shouldn't think so.....
SE25Eagle
11-08-2011, 09:50 PM
:S: :S: :S: :S:
I rest my case.
cpfcfan1
11-08-2011, 09:51 PM
Sod this im off for a dump and might possibly HAW
Night all \o
Dan A
11-08-2011, 09:52 PM
Na, shouldn't think so.....
Stop acting like one then, its been one game.. have a little faith.
SE25Eagle
11-08-2011, 09:55 PM
Stop acting like one then, its been one game.. have a little faith.
Its not been one game though as it...? I'm sorry if i dont wear rose tinted glasses, and im sorry that the dream of DF being a great manager isn't real, i honestly think that the fans deserve a lot more.
gold76
11-08-2011, 09:56 PM
Life's too short..
beggars can't be choosers, get him in on a short term deal, he'll make a nuisance of himself, hopefully lay a few off for Scannell & Wilf to score.
Baldy
11-08-2011, 09:58 PM
Please can somebody confirm that this is just a BBS rumour and that fat useless **** hasn't signed again.
Baldy
11-08-2011, 10:01 PM
Life's too short..
beggars can't be choosers, get him in on a short term deal, he'll make a nuisance of himself, hopefully lay a few off for Scannell & Wilf to score.
But Wilf doesn't score....
palace nutter
11-08-2011, 10:02 PM
i expect them to try and give something back by at least trying, win or lose i dont really mind as long as i've seen them TRY, sadly i haven't seen this at Selhurst Park for a long time
Read this back and say that you're not talking absolute bollocks! :rolleyes:
Somehow think you might want to re-phrase this.
Maiden Eagle
11-08-2011, 10:02 PM
I've spent most of the summer on BBS rowing with those bloody arrogant weed fans but I will now throw my hat into the ring over what seems to be happening.
For a start when Claude was released followed by Barrett, I assumed that either Gardner was definetly joining us, or another centre half was on the way. Neither happened and so just before the start of the season, we had ONE established central defender at the Club and he is injury prone (done his shoulder twice) and gives away too many penalties and own goals !
I'm sorry, but whether that is Dougie's choice or CPFC 2010 being tight with finances, that is rank bad management.
It was very sad that Clyne got injured but why wasn't David Wright, who was bought as a right back, played in his place at P'Boro ?
And why was he played as a DM, when surely KG was bought to do that job i/o of them both playing in the middle of the park.
Play someone like Ambrose or (dare I say it) Garvan to provide some creativity in the middle, and use Zaha on the flank (where Ambrose always seems to be stuck.
And why does he never give Cadogan a run out ?
And for the record, I think signing Kuqi would be OK - yes, he does look like a pub player at times, but he did well in the 2nd half oF the 08/09 season and I do think he would be a much better replacement for Murray, than Easter (too lightweight) and Calvin (sorry, but IMO, hopeless).
Not panicking yet and I knew this season would be difficult but in Dougie, I'm not sure I really do trust ATM.
1ffa
WallingtonEagle
11-08-2011, 10:05 PM
Its not been one game though as it...? I'm sorry if i dont wear rose tinted glasses, and im sorry that the dream of DF being a great manager isn't real, i honestly think that the fans deserve a lot more.
If you're the 'fans' then deserve **** all.
SE25Eagle
11-08-2011, 10:06 PM
Read this back and say that you're not talking absolute bollocks! :rolleyes:
Somehow think you might want to re-phrase this.
No i won't.
SE25Eagle
11-08-2011, 10:07 PM
If you're the 'fans' then deserve **** all.
For having a opinion..? lol. Sorry, let me just start licking everyone's arse on here..... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
palace nutter
11-08-2011, 10:09 PM
No i won't.
So, you've not seen any Palace team "trying" for a very long time?
Interesting. I don't know how many games you go to or how long a "very long time" is, but if you think you didn't see any effort from any of our players in the last few years you are deluded.
You're saying we stayed up two years running by luck and not by our players putting a shift in?
You might as well not turn up to games...
JAS78
11-08-2011, 10:15 PM
For having a opinion..? lol. Sorry, let me just start licking everyone's arse on here..... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
maybe Dougie will fail we are all well aware of that possibilty, but maybe he wont
but no one wants to read your negative **** all day long, especially after 1 game
Seaside Eagle
11-08-2011, 10:15 PM
Did you go to Leeds? You know, the home game before last.
We certainly tried then, and we won the game. You are talking out of your bottom. :)
SE25Eagle
11-08-2011, 10:15 PM
So, you've not seen any Palace team "trying" for a very long time?
Interesting. I don't know how many games you go to or how long a "very long time" is, but if you think you didn't see any effort from any of our players in the last few years you are deluded.
You're saying we stayed up two years running by luck and not by our players putting a shift in?
You might as well not turn up to games...
Don't worry with signings like Kuqi on the horizon i don't plan on spending my cash up there at any time in the near future, and if you, or anyone else honestly thinks that im the only person with these views you are deluded.
Danny boy
11-08-2011, 10:16 PM
wow
Kirby
11-08-2011, 10:18 PM
Ahhhhhhhh. One game in and our "fans" are not only panicking but turning on each other!
Brilliant :lux:
JDawg
11-08-2011, 10:19 PM
Its not been one game though as it...? I'm sorry if i dont wear rose tinted glasses, and im sorry that the dream of DF being a great manager isn't real, i honestly think that the fans deserve a lot more.
Given Dougie fulfilled his brief last year - albeit not in the prettiest fashion I think we are talking about one game.
I am not a fan of what appears to be the reactive transfer policy of the last fortnight and also I think we are over-diligencing players. However Steve Parish has been clear about this from day 1.
It is way too early to pass judgement. All we saw against Peterborough was the continuation of a shit away record that stretches back into late 2009 and has occurred under three managerial regimes.
As the loanees have now met each other and had a chance to train together, so this Saturday will be much more of a test than last. Dougie has to build this team and move away from being re-active. If he doesn't.....well it's a results based business.
For now, changing manager again would be a retarded thing to do.
SE25Eagle
11-08-2011, 10:19 PM
maybe Dougie will fail we are all well aware of that possibilty, but maybe he wont
but no one wants to read your negative **** all day long, especially after 1 game
Its not negative shit, its my opinion, do you think that everyone wants to read shit like 'in Dougie we trust' every fvcking day from people that can't see no further than their nose..? its a internet forum ffs, i'm entitled to say what i think just as much as you or anyone else.
For the record i hope i turn out to be terribly wrong about DF, i really do.
palace nutter
11-08-2011, 10:19 PM
Don't worry with signings like Kuqi on the horizon i don't plan on spending my cash up there at any time in the near future, and if you, or anyone else honestly thinks that im the only person with these views you are deluded.
Maybe you not turning up will be better for everyone.
Then hopefully we won't have to read your negative bollocks on the BBS :hi:
SE25Eagle
11-08-2011, 10:24 PM
Maybe you not turning up will be better for everyone.
Then hopefully we won't have to read your negative bollocks on the BBS :hi:
Negative in your view, realist to be truthful, i don't live in a dream world that a so-called hero who played for us turns out to be the greatest manager of all time....
WallingtonEagle
11-08-2011, 10:26 PM
Don't worry with signings like Kuqi on the horizon i don't plan on spending my cash up there at any time in the near future, and if you, or anyone else honestly thinks that im the only person with these views you are deluded.
Grow a pair of bollcks for gods sake. Your like a little boy that if its not his way then its no way. Sort it out. We all support palace no matter what. However, it seems if palace were in the shit then you want out. Just subscribe to sky now. :hi:
SE25Eagle
11-08-2011, 10:27 PM
Grow a pair of bollcks for gods sake. Your like a little boy that if its not his way then its no way. Sort it out. We all support palace no matter what. However, it seems if palace were in the shit then you want out. Just subscribe to sky now. :hi:
After watching them for over 30 years i wouldn't have thought so somehow. :rolleyes:
22d2
palace nutter
11-08-2011, 10:30 PM
Negative in your view, realist to be truthful, i don't live in a dream world that a so-called hero who played for us turns out to be the greatest manager of all time....
No one does, after the dismal 2nd half we watched last week, no-one is going to be confident about our chances this season. But, 1. sacking the manager now would be the worst thing you could do and 2. surely Dougie deserves more time than another manager because he has earnt it as a player, and as a manager last season. Of course none of us want to see DF do badly because he is a legend, but if he doesn't perform and the time is right, we will move on, but i can assure you, that is a long way off.
He clearly hasn't had the best summer signings (notably CBs) and tied with some unfortunate injuries and suspensions our squad is v, weak but we have to trust him to be able to do something with it. And you can trust that he is working his nuts off to get it right because nobody wants to see him succeed here than him, CPFC2010 and mostly, us.
Nobody said it was going to be a walk in the park but we are only 1 game in. Give it 10 games, and if we are still in the same position, you may have a point.
WallingtonEagle
11-08-2011, 10:30 PM
After watching them for over 30 years i wouldn't have thought so somehow. :rolleyes:
you just commented saying the following...
Don't worry with signings like Kuqi on the horizon i don't plan on spending my cash up there at any time in the near future
:clown: :clown: :clown:
SE25Eagle
11-08-2011, 10:32 PM
No one does, after the dismal 2nd half we watched last week, no-one is going to be confident about our chances this season. But, 1. sacking the manager now would be the worst thing you could do and 2. surely Dougie deserves more time than another manager because he has earnt it as a player, and as a manager last season. Of course none of us want to see DF do badly because he is a legend, but if he doesn't perform and the time is right, we will move on, but i can assure you, that is a long way off.
He clearly hasn't had the best summer signings (notably CBs) and tied with some unfortunate injuries and suspensions our squad is v, weak but we have to trust him to be able to do something with it. And you can trust that he is working his nuts off to get it right because nobody wants to see him succeed here than him, CPFC2010 and mostly, us.
Nobody said it was going to be a walk in the park but we are only 1 game in. Give it 10 games, and if we are still in the same position, you may have a point.
I hope your right, i really do.
SE25Eagle
11-08-2011, 10:37 PM
you just commented saying the following...
:clown: :clown: :clown:
What the fvck you on about you div..? I have no intention what-so-ever to put another penny into CPFC in we re-sign that donkey Kuqi, that is up to me, that doesn't stop me from supporting palace, why should i through my money away week in and week out watching a load of shit..? its not a cheap day out for me as i have 4 kids who i'd never let support anther side, but money is not easy to come by in this day of age so why on earth would i want to keep wasting it on shit..? Its not in one way entertaining, so please tell me why i should keep throwing my money away..?
Chillo
11-08-2011, 10:38 PM
For who...?
For whom :rolleyes:
HTH
JAS78
11-08-2011, 10:38 PM
Its not negative shit, its my opinion, do you think that everyone wants to read shit like 'in Dougie we trust' every fvcking day from people that can't see no further than their nose..? its a internet forum ffs, i'm entitled to say what i think just as much as you or anyone else.
For the record i hope i turn out to be terribly wrong about DF, i really do.
they can't see further than their nose?
what because they're not joining your witch hunt for sacking our manager after 1 game
maybe decent fans wait and see what happens by playing some football matches before wanting there club turned into a circus
SE25Eagle
11-08-2011, 10:40 PM
they can't see further than their nose?
what because they're not joining your witch hunt for sacking our manager after 1 game
maybe decent fans wait and see what happens by playing some football matches before wanting there club turned into a circus
Ok we'll wait and see.....
SE25Eagle
11-08-2011, 10:40 PM
For whom :rolleyes:
HTH
Get a life you sad ****.
Chillo
11-08-2011, 10:44 PM
Its not negative shit, its my opinion, do you think that everyone wants to read shit like 'in Dougie we trust' every fvcking day from people that can't see no further than their nose..? its a internet forum ffs, i'm entitled to say what i think just as much as you or anyone else.
For the record i hope i turn out to be terribly wrong about DF, i really do.
Negative in your view, realist to be truthful, i don't live in a dream world that a so-called hero who played for us turns out to be the greatest manager of all time
"It's not negative, it's realistic" and I'm going to keep on saying it until I'm sick :rolleyes:
Chillo
11-08-2011, 10:45 PM
Get a life you sad ****.
Ooh, someone's over-tired :hi: :hi:
SE25Eagle
11-08-2011, 10:46 PM
"It's not negative, it's realistic" and I'm going to keep on saying it until I'm sick :rolleyes:
lol, like i say, get a life saddo, your not even bringing a decent argument to the table...
SE25Eagle
11-08-2011, 10:46 PM
Ooh, someone's over-tired :hi: :hi:
Ok virgin queen.
WallingtonEagle
11-08-2011, 10:46 PM
What the fvck you on about you div..? I have no intention what-so-ever to put another penny into CPFC in we re-sign that donkey Kuqi, that is up to me, that doesn't stop me from supporting palace, why should i through my money away week in and week out watching a load of shit..? its not a cheap day out for me as i have 4 kids who i'd never let support anther side, but money is not easy to come by in this day of age so why on earth would i want to keep wasting it on shit..? Its not in one way entertaining, so please tell me why i should keep throwing my money away..?
So you basically realised you looked like a moron and then backed it up in this post by simply contradicting all your posts. You made the following comments:
1) Saying how if we come close to signing the likes of kuqi you wont put another penny in..
2) A comment saying after 30 years of supporting them stating how you wouldnt stop supporting them
You do realise how these contradict each other, right? Yes, of course you do and thats why you came back with an uneducated response calling me a div :D
You say you have four kids, so I imagine you are not a school boy, so stop acting like one.
1f4a
palace nutter
11-08-2011, 10:47 PM
Ooh, someone's over-tired :hi: :hi:
Palace fans now definitely acting like 5 year olds.
At least I put a decent argument forward ^^ ;)
cp eagles
11-08-2011, 10:47 PM
Really Freedman should be given more time because he played for us? If thats the case taylor an kember should of been given more time then. if things dont improve then freedman will have to go. tactically he has been poor and his transfer policy hasnt been up to scratch either. Prove me dougie!
SE25Eagle
11-08-2011, 10:48 PM
So you basically realised you looked like a moron and then backed it up in this post by simply contradicting all your posts. You made the following comments:
1) Saying how if we come close to signing the likes of kuqi you wont put another penny in..
2) A comment saying after 30 years of supporting them stating how you wouldnt stop supporting them
You do realise how these contradict each other, right? Yes, of course you do and thats why you came back with an uneducated response calling me a :D
You say you have four kids, so I imagine you are not a school boy, so stop acting like one.
So you think that everyone that 'SUPPORTS' Palace goes to every game..?
palace nutter
11-08-2011, 10:49 PM
Really Freedman should be given more time because he played for us? If thats the case taylor an kember should of been given more time then. if things dont improve then freedman will have to go. tactically he has been poor and his transfer policy hasnt been up to scratch either. Prove me dougie!
I think he should given more time because he kept us up last season, I think that's a good reason.
But people are actually slating him after 1 game!
WallingtonEagle
11-08-2011, 10:52 PM
So you think that everyone that 'SUPPORTS' Palace goes to every game..?
You said you watched them for over 30 years..
After watching them for over 30 years i wouldn't have thought so somehow. :rolleyes:
I imagine by watching you mean at the game, or do you just subscribe to Palace Player and watch them? Which would mean you will stop paying money for that too..
SE25Eagle
11-08-2011, 10:53 PM
I think he should given more time because he kept us up last season, I think that's a good reason.
But people are actually slating him after 1 game!
Listen, the thing is its not just one game is it..? Its 3 months of pre season and the players not lookng fit, the squad not looking ready in anyway, panic loan deals the day before we kick off etc. etc., these things are all down to the manager, no one else.
Chillo
11-08-2011, 10:54 PM
Palace fans now definitely acting like 5 year olds.
At least I put a decent argument forward ^^ ;)
To be honest PN, there's no point, really, is there? :D
It's not going to change his mind at all; cannot understand the way some Palace fans deal with such issues - possibly resigning Shefki, DFs managerial career this season - as though they're life or death.
I'm looking for a good flounce from SE25Eagle after this, or at least a good lie down in a darkened room.
st albans
11-08-2011, 10:54 PM
Blah blah blah. Grow the feck up you bunch of women
WallingtonEagle
11-08-2011, 10:55 PM
Listen, the thing is its not just one game is it..? Its 3 months of pre season and the players not lookng unfit, the squad not looking ready in anyway, panic loan deals the day before we kick off etc. etc., these things are all down to the manager, no one else.
3 months of a shit pre season (apparently)...
DOUGIE OUT! :o
SE25Eagle
11-08-2011, 10:55 PM
You said you watched them for over 30 years..
I imagine by watching you mean at the game, or do you just subscribe to Palace Player and watch them? Which would mean you will stop paying money for that too..
Exactly what i mean, maybe i should have worded it better, if we sign Kuqi i shant be putting another penny over the turnstiles, hows that...?
Owngoal
11-08-2011, 10:56 PM
First time 've looked at this thread because it is such a stupid idea to resign a hod carrier (being nice), but for people to be having ago at Dougie with his first choice backs unavailable is a bit rich, give it till 5pm Saturday at least!!!
(thats a joke, if Dougie gets his desired signings and a bit of luck with injuries we will start flying up the table)
SE25Eagle
11-08-2011, 10:57 PM
3 months of a shit pre season (apparently)...
DOUGIE OUT! :o
Ok, so would you say that we was ready in anyway for our first game last week..? serious qusetion...
Little Fozzie
11-08-2011, 10:58 PM
SE25, does the fact that almost everyone on this thread is going against what you're saying not tell you something? That maybe instead of everyone else being deluded with the rose tinted goggles, its you being a complete twunt?
(answers yes btw)
as for your reply to my other post, "dougie didn't keep us up, the other teams did that for us". Laughable, not go to leeds did we? :rolleyes: :clown:
WallingtonEagle
11-08-2011, 10:58 PM
Exactly what i mean, maybe i should have worded it better, if we sign Kuqi i shant be putting another penny over the turnstiles, hows that...?
Then you're just proving my point yourself..
smileysmith
11-08-2011, 11:00 PM
http://www.fugly.com/media/IMAGES/Random/do-not-feed-the-trolls.jpg
JAS78
11-08-2011, 11:01 PM
Exactly what i mean, maybe i should have worded it better, if we sign Kuqi i shant be putting another penny over the turnstiles, hows that...?
hopefully shefki signs in the morning
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Danny boy
11-08-2011, 11:02 PM
Exactly what i mean, maybe i should have worded it better, if we sign Kuqi i shant be putting another penny over the turnstiles, hows that...?
why?
WallingtonEagle
11-08-2011, 11:02 PM
Ok, so would you say that we was ready in anyway for our first game last week..? serious qusetion...
No. Does that mean a different manager would have done better? If so please tell me who? Why they would want to manage Palace? What signings they would make? Why those signings would come to Palace? Why that team of signings would make a team good enough to stay in the NPC?
Look, we have the Doog as manager. He is a legend in every Palace fans eyes. That does not mean he is immune to critisicm, however judging his signings or lack of signing, the way the team play and where we will end up come May, in August, is just plain stupid.
SE25Eagle
11-08-2011, 11:02 PM
hopefully shefki signs in the morning
Yep thats the answer. :rolleyes:
rainbow_child
11-08-2011, 11:04 PM
Really Freedman should be given more time because he played for us? If thats the case taylor an kember should of been given more time then. if things dont improve then freedman will have to go. tactically he has been poor and his transfer policy hasnt been up to scratch either. Prove me dougie!
Are you taking the piss he's only been in the job for 5minutes?! :rolleyes:
palace nutter
11-08-2011, 11:05 PM
Listen, the thing is its not just one game is it..? Its 3 months of pre season and the players not lookng fit, the squad not looking ready in anyway, panic loan deals the day before we kick off etc. etc., these things are all down to the manager, no one else.
Don't think we had a terrible pre- season, won a few games, and from the games I saw we looked pretty fit and sharp. Last saturday was a left over feeling from last year, that will only end with a win away from home.
Anyway, you're not in Dougie's shoes, we could have been trying to sign 5 new CBs and he may have been unlucky, we don't know, so we can't really debate it, no? We do know he tried to sign Gardner but didn't want to nreak a wage structure, (sesible management) and if we'd had Paddy and Gards all pre season we'd be delighted. It's not turned out that way, and so he's doing his best with the loan market. It's his first pre- season as well, give hima chance.
Like I said, give it 10 games pleaseeeeee, before this conversation should be happening.
GeeTee
11-08-2011, 11:07 PM
panic loan deals the day before we kick off
Far better than panic buys though, don't you think?
The best centre back options, at the right price, obviously haven't been available yet in Dougie's opinion. Aside from that, everything else is to do with injuries - the main one being sprung on him in the final meaningful friendly.
SE25Eagle
11-08-2011, 11:08 PM
No. Does that mean a different manager would have done better? If so please tell me who? Why they would want to manage Palace? What signings they would make? Why those signings would come to Palace? Why that team of signings would make a team good enough to stay in the NPC?
Look, we have the Doog as manager. He is a legend in every Palace fans eyes. That does not mean he is immune to critisicm, however judging his signings or lack of signing, the way the team play and where we will end up come May, in August, is just plain stupid.
Like i say i hope i'm wrong, i really do, and if i am i'll buy everyone on this thread a pint at the end of the season at the pub of your choice, but imo Df wasn't ready for the job, we didn't play well under him last year and we started this year pretty poor (no one can argue with that) and i honestly believe that we the fans deserve a bit better than what we're being given at the moment, signing Kuqi (what this thread is about) is a massive step backwards imo, and it just stinks of desperation to me.....
I'm off to bed now people so you'll have to find someone else to hate for the night eh....:bash:
SE25Eagle
11-08-2011, 11:09 PM
Don't think we had a terrible pre- season, won a few games, and from the games I saw we looked pretty fit and sharp. Last saturday was a left over feeling from last year, that will only end with a win away from home.
Anyway, you're not in Dougie's shoes, we could have been trying to sign 5 new CBs and he may have been unlucky, we don't know, so we can't really debate it, no? We do know he tried to sign Gardner but didn't want to nreak a wage structure, (sesible management) and if we'd had Paddy and Gards all pre season we'd be delighted. It's not turned out that way, and so he's doing his best with the loan market. It's his first pre- season as well, give hima chance.
Like I said, give it 10 games pleaseeeeee, before this conversation should be happening.
Fair does...
WallingtonEagle
11-08-2011, 11:11 PM
Like i say i hope i'm wrong, i really do, and if i am i'll buy everyone on this thread a pint at the end of the season at the pub of your choice, but imo Df wasn't ready for the job, we didn't play well under him last year and we started this year pretty poor (no one can argue with that) and i honestly believe that we the fans deserve a bit better that what we're being given at the moment, signing Kuqi (what this thread is about) is a massive step backwards imo, and it just stinks of desperation to me.....
I'm off to bed now people so you'll have to find someone else to hate for the night eh....:bash:
Best point you made all night :hi:
smileysmith
11-08-2011, 11:14 PM
I hope he's gone, I really do.
;)
Little Fozzie
11-08-2011, 11:20 PM
Like i say i hope i'm wrong, i really do, and if i am i'll buy everyone on this thread a pint at the end of the season at the pub of your choice, but imo Df wasn't ready for the job, we didn't play well under him last year and we started this year pretty poor (no one can argue with that) and i honestly believe that we the fans deserve a bit better than what we're being given at the moment, signing Kuqi (what this thread is about) is a massive step backwards imo, and it just stinks of desperation to me.....
I'm off to bed now people so you'll have to find someone else to hate for the night eh....:bash:
Yes i totally agree. I mean atm that 1 game we've played is really grating on me at how i deserve more for travelling to see it.
(joke for the slower among you)
You know what you're getting when you have that stupid moment when you decide to go to an away game. Especially after last season. You know what you're signing up to; could win/could not (probably not!) but you know that. Stop complaining after just 1 game ffs, and get behind the team
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milky87
11-08-2011, 11:22 PM
Exactly what i mean, maybe i should have worded it better, if we sign Kuqi i shant be putting another penny over the turnstiles, hows that...?
So if Kuqi scores the winner on Saturday I assume you will Boo?
Kuqi was a different player after all the bollox, he came on at Forest and wrapped up the game for us and also scored a few goals.
The problem is our fans are 2 bob twats (as you are proving). As soon as Kuqi signed people hated him and booed before he had even kicked a ball, same with Alan Lee, same with Akinbiyi.
Lee turned out to be a legend and Akinbiyi went on to do ok at the same level and that is because the Barnsley fans got behind him.
As for that apparently useless player Kuqi he went on and played for 2 premier league sides
the kooch
11-08-2011, 11:24 PM
we're screwed and everyone knows, no need to sugarcoat it
JAS78
11-08-2011, 11:44 PM
Funny old game football
- july 2010 no one knew if we'd have a club, AFC Palace on the cards sharing with croydon athletic in the county leagues
just 13 months later;
- august 2011 we have 4 very rich Palace fans in charge who care about the club, plans for a big glass stadium in Crystal Palace park, Dougie Freedman as manager, championship football and people like SE25Eagle come out wanting a sacking after 1 game
now don't get me wrong, i want Palace to progress ASAP what fan doesn't, but lets get some perspective FFS
Rome was not built in a day, there is no quick fix, lets rebuild the football club properly. Enjoy the ride
Murk E
12-08-2011, 12:01 AM
Funny old game football
- july 2010 no one knew if we'd have a club, AFC Palace on the cards sharing with croydon athletic in the county leagues
just 13 months later;
- august 2011 we have 4 very rich Palace fans in charge who care about the club, plans for a big glass stadium in Crystal Palace park, Dougie Freedman as manager, championship football and people like SE25Eagle come out wanting a sacking after 1 game
now don't get me wrong, i want Palace to progress ASAP what fan doesn't, but lets get some perspective FFS
Rome was not built in a day, there is no quick fix, lets rebuild the football club properly. Enjoy the ride
Good call.
the kooch
12-08-2011, 12:05 AM
i don't see how dougie and activities in the transfer market relate to the new stadium
Chairman Meow
12-08-2011, 01:50 AM
Is Dougie really our manager or is this some kind of sinister plot in which Dario Gradi and Alan Mullery are really pulling the strings?
Has anyone actually touched CPFC 2010? I mean are they real? They did seem far too good to be true.
NZsparky
12-08-2011, 03:32 AM
Oh shit I have been trying to not read this thread, then peeked at this page. Is he back?
Bugger.
Gathers54
12-08-2011, 06:49 AM
DF has done well by playing defensive. Its now time to play attacking football and score goals... Hopefully this will happen.
Slating him already is not going to get you anywhere as its way too premature. Give it some time and if things don't change then come back!
As for Kuqi... Any news?
Ruskin Old Boy
12-08-2011, 06:58 AM
Oh shit I have been trying to not read this thread, then peeked at this page. Is he back?
Bugger.
Same here; I thought it was one of those football rumours stories. Depressing isn't it.
SE25 Eagle does have his own point of you, and whether it is negative and one we don't all agree with then fair enough. I don't think we should be encouraging him to not turn up though, we need as many fans in the ground as possible so we can use those finances to become successful.
I am certainly not happy with the prospect of Kuqi returning, however with time to reflect it is only a short term deal to cover for injuries. It might be a risk that turns out to be a stroke of genius and he signs for longer, but that will only happen if he scores goals which we all want. In fairness to Kuqi, iit is a test of a man to come back and play in front of 18,000 people that you have flicked a V at, so his confidence/arrogance might be a good thing after two relegation battles.
Despite the difference of opinions, we all want the club to do well and have different ideas on how to get there. I think constructive criticism of Freedman is warranted at the moment, as he is cutting his teeth in management and will get things wrong, but calling for his head in my view is out of order.
dufski13
12-08-2011, 07:05 AM
Loved Kuqi's wholehearted approach at the end of his last spell. If he plays like that again we won't have to wait all season for more than 1 away win. We need a bit of bottle about the team. If he is up for it Kuqi can provide that. Can't see the problem on a short term loan on sensible wages, what's to moan about ?
Spender
12-08-2011, 07:07 AM
Looking forward to seeing shefki on saturday . Hope he at least makes the bench .
Baldy
12-08-2011, 07:09 AM
So if Kuqi scores the winner on Saturday I assume you will Boo?
Kuqi was a different player after all the bollox, he came on at Forest and wrapped up the game for us and also scored a few goals.
The problem is our fans are 2 bob twats (as you are proving). As soon as Kuqi signed people hated him and booed before he had even kicked a ball, same with Alan Lee, same with Akinbiyi.
Lee turned out to be a legend and Akinbiyi went on to do ok at the same level and that is because the Barnsley fans got behind him.
As for that apparently useless player Kuqi he went on and played for 2 premier league sides
Lee a 'legend' ? Don't be ridiculous,
Spender
12-08-2011, 07:12 AM
Loved Kuqi's wholehearted approach at the end of his last spell. If he plays like that again we won't have to wait all season for more than 1 away win. We need a bit of bottle about the team. If he is up for it Kuqi can provide that. Can't see the problem on a short term loan on sensible wages, what's to moan about ?
:afro:
Agree
1f4f
JAS78
12-08-2011, 07:12 AM
Lee a 'legend' ? Don't be ridiculous,
i think Lee was actually hated more than Kuqi when he first played for Palace
people do have selective memories
EMLEY EAGLE
12-08-2011, 07:21 AM
If Kuqi is wearing a Palace shirt he will have my 100% support
milky87
12-08-2011, 07:22 AM
If Kuqi is wearing a Palace shirt he will have my 100% support
Is the only answer from any Palace fan.
I couldn't give a fu*k if Bin Laden pulled on a Palace top, I would back him all the way
milky87
12-08-2011, 07:23 AM
Are people actually forgetting that Kuqi was actually quite good
SteveyHawking
12-08-2011, 07:27 AM
Could he be a new Shaun Derry? First spell in a decent team not so great, second spell in a not so decent team great??
Gerry from Sussex
12-08-2011, 07:32 AM
Is the only answer from any Palace fan.
I couldn't give a fu*k if Bin Laden pulled on a Palace top, I would back him all the way
I think I've spotted a flaw in this though!!
cpfc4ever
12-08-2011, 07:34 AM
Are people actually forgetting that Kuqi was actually quite good
Sorry but that's just not true, average at best.
Gerry from Sussex
12-08-2011, 07:37 AM
i think Lee was actually hated more than Kuqi when he first played for Palace
people do have selective memories
I don't know about hated but it's true many - including myself - were not exactly impressed. It's not selective memory though. Alan Lee was part of a very special and very emotional experience for this club and all of the players who played their part in that will bring back fond memories just for being there (well, okay maybe not Stern John, but you know what I mean). That goal at Hillsborough was a legendary moment that will be burned into the memory of all Palace fans for ever. That doesn't mean I really think Alan Lee was all that - he was fairly ordinairy TBH - but that doesn't take any of the gloss off what he did for us.
Gerry from Sussex
12-08-2011, 07:46 AM
Funny old game football
- july 2010 no one knew if we'd have a club, AFC Palace on the cards sharing with croydon athletic in the county leagues
just 13 months later;
- august 2011 we have 4 very rich Palace fans in charge who care about the club, plans for a big glass stadium in Crystal Palace park, Dougie Freedman as manager, championship football and people like SE25Eagle come out wanting a sacking after 1 game
now don't get me wrong, i want Palace to progress ASAP what fan doesn't, but lets get some perspective FFS
Rome was not built in a day, there is no quick fix, lets rebuild the football club properly. Enjoy the ride
Absolutely correct - and sadly it's exactly what I expected. Some people still do not get just how damaged this club is after more than 10 years of mismanagement. As it happens I also think Kuqi has a hint of desperation about it. But it just reflects where we are. DF has tried to get much better striker options in and, aside from Murray, they either didn't want to come here or we couldn't meet the asking price. That's how it is. No point bleating about it - we just have to get behind who ever we have got and help them to pull us back to where we want to be.
If Kuqi is wearing a Palace shirt he will have my 100% support
this is v true
Whatever I think about this, Kuqi was a character that people had good things to say about him at the end of his last spell with us. If only for the fact the he was a tryer - you don't get a song for you with the words " we thought you were shite, but now you're alright" for nothing.
Although this thread has been appearing in the top 15 for a number of days now I have not bothered loking at it, until I see this story in today's advertiser that we are interested in taking him on for cover. Unblooming believable.
We have Andrew who can do a target man job or a number of other strikers which although not target men can surely be incorporated into the team by changing our tactics and going away from simply hoofing the ball up to the big man up front. Is our team incapable of adopting any other tactic?
I don't post often so don't like to be a touch negative but I am dumbfounded by this move if it is true.
cp eagles
12-08-2011, 08:15 AM
Do we have to sign kuqi buy 12 for him to be in the team 2mrw or is it different because he is a free agent.
ultimo-samus
12-08-2011, 08:18 AM
surely we've already got players that are better than Kuqi ? If dougie signs another forward, they need to be better than the ones we've got now. Also, we need a consistent goalscorer and kuqi isn't that, he's just strong.
stinky
12-08-2011, 08:20 AM
surely we've already got players that are better than Kuqi ? If dougie signs another forward, they need to be better than the ones we've got now. Also, we need a consistent goalscorer and kuqi isn't that, he's just strong.
as has been mentioned numerous, numerous times.. IF he signs it'll be as short term cover for the injured Murray and Iversen. That's it. Unless, of course, he scores a couple and impresses, then maybe keep him on a pay as you play deal, and ship Easter or Andrew out on loan
Owngoal
12-08-2011, 08:27 AM
Are people actually forgetting that Kuqi was actually quite good
Quite good in the same silky ball control skills as Calvin Andrew, surely there is a striker out there we could get on loan for a month?
Bobsta
12-08-2011, 08:34 AM
He was a handful for defences for sure
elgin eagle
12-08-2011, 08:34 AM
1f4f
I don't see the harm on a short term loan deal. Always gives 110%, and god knows we need someone to hold it up on away games if we are continuing to play with no width to give us an outlet.
SE25Eagle
12-08-2011, 08:34 AM
Are people actually forgetting that Kuqi was actually quite good
Yep, he's that good that he's training with us to keep fit as there is not another team in sight that are interested in him...:rolleyes:
ultimo-samus
12-08-2011, 08:34 AM
as has been mentioned numerous, numerous times.. IF he signs it'll be as short term cover for the injured Murray and Iversen. That's it. Unless, of course, he scores a couple and impresses, then maybe keep him on a pay as you play deal, and ship Easter or Andrew out on loan
Didn't see it mentioned a numerous number of times as i only read a couple of posts then say what i think. And yeah, i can see the sense of bringing him in on the short term for cover, just thought that we could go for someone who wouldn't be cover and could actually be a consistent goalscorer for us, which is what we need.
Kirby
12-08-2011, 08:35 AM
I think we can do better in the longrun, but for the short term I'd rather see Kuqi in the team than Easter. Hopefully we keep looking for a better alternative to both of them.
ultimo-samus
12-08-2011, 08:37 AM
I think we can do better in the longrun, but for the short term I'd rather see Kuqi in the team than Easter. Hopefully we keep looking for a better alternative to both of them.
Exactly.
Yep, he's that good that he's training with us to keep fit as there is not another team in sight that are interested in him...:rolleyes:
And you know this how?
Lots of players train with thier ex clubs. He knows the staff, facilities and management and im sure he's welcomed back if he wants to train as long as he conducts himself in a professional manner. It doesnt mean however that he hasnt been talking to clubs prior to us offering a loan deal.
SE25Eagle
12-08-2011, 08:42 AM
And you know this how?
Lots of players train with thier ex clubs. He knows the staff, facilities and management and im sure he's welcomed back if he wants to train as long as he conducts himself in a professional manner. It doesnt mean however that he hasnt been talking to clubs prior to us offering a loan deal.
Ok, so he loves going to work each day just to keep fit, he's not bothered about being paid, he just wants to train with Palace because he loves all the staff so much...
Neckinger Eagle
12-08-2011, 09:55 AM
He may even be paying the club for the use of the facilities?
Ok, so he loves going to work each day just to keep fit, he's not bothered about being paid, he just wants to train with Palace because he loves all the staff so much...
I have no idea what point you are trying to make here but whatever it is you have failed.
He's a profiessional footballer, he needs to be fit to play. How will he get a contract with us or anyone else if he's out of shape? The fact he knows the players and knows the area probably makes it that much easier and more enjoyable for him to train with us. In return it costs us as a club very little and the younger players have another experienced pro around to learn from. Its win-win regardless of him signing on loan.
cp eagles
12-08-2011, 10:12 AM
Dont worry i think we are safe if we were going to offer him a contract DF would of done it by now in time for 2mrw game. Its just a wind up
PauLo
12-08-2011, 10:14 AM
Yeah, a newspaper reporter was on a wind up. That's what they do :rolleyes:
W Malling Eagle
12-08-2011, 10:20 AM
Dont worry i think we are safe if we were going to offer him a contract DF would of done it by now in time for 2mrw game. Its just a wind up
Disappointing. Scannell + Kuqi would imo probably be our best chance of scoring tomorrow. If DF plays Easter I may slash my wrists in the stand.
cp eagles
12-08-2011, 10:21 AM
Yeah, a newspaper reporter was on a wind up. That's what they do :rolleyes:
Well they arent always correct are they?
cp eagles
12-08-2011, 10:33 AM
Disappointing. Scannell + Kuqi would imo probably be our best chance of scoring tomorrow. If DF plays Easter I may slash my wrists in the stand.
I agree i wouldnt have a problem with kuqi on a short term contract. Im just getting dissapointing with all this paper talk an nothing happening. I understand people being against this but he hasnt even signed yet. lets wait an see what happens before the debate can start on what a good or crap signing he is.
Ok, so he loves going to work each day just to keep fit, he's not bothered about being paid, he just wants to train with Palace because he loves all the staff so much...
To be fair I wish Jedinik had the same attitude? Remember he went to NY to wait for a work permit and apparently wasn't fit enough to start the season.
The Gerry Queen
12-08-2011, 10:41 AM
The silence from Dougie and the club on this is deafening this morning.
cp eagles
12-08-2011, 10:49 AM
The silence from Dougie and the club on this is deafening this morning.
Kuqi isnt signing then. I was hoping for the normal freedman comments of ive never of heard of him or this story is a load of rubbish. ;)
kolinkins
12-08-2011, 10:53 AM
To be fair I wish Jedinik had the same attitude? Remember he went to NY to wait for a work permit and apparently wasn't fit enough to start the season.
Where would you rather Jedi had gone?
1f52
Harry Holmesdale
12-08-2011, 10:54 AM
To the fitness centre?
stinky
12-08-2011, 10:55 AM
To be fair I wish Jedinik had the same attitude? Remember he went to NY to wait for a work permit and apparently wasn't fit enough to start the season.
I thought he wasn't allowed to train with us until the work permit issue was sorted
stinky
12-08-2011, 10:56 AM
so going to NY means he doesn't do any exercise right? That's how it works? Gyms don't exist over there I'm guessing
kolinkins
12-08-2011, 10:57 AM
To the fitness centre?
Where?
He wasn't allowed in this country so he went to NY (where he did fitness work according to Dougie, just not match fit)
Latvian Eagle
12-08-2011, 11:03 AM
He wasn't allowed in this country yet he was allowed into the US!? :confused:
kolinkins
12-08-2011, 11:08 AM
He wasn't allowed in this country yet he was allowed into the US!? :confused:
Umm, yes. Why does that confuse you?
Latvian
12-08-2011, 11:10 AM
i think Lee was actually hated more than Kuqi when he first played for Palace
people do have selective memories
Very worth repeating.
Didn't Lee used to rave on about how he loved Anglia, wasn't enjoying Palace etc...
Kuqi, just got on with it, got us some key goals and scored vs. us for Swansea too.
Also agree with Kirby that I'd rather see him that Easter but don't think either are the long-term solution.
Voldo
12-08-2011, 11:11 AM
Kuqi to the Future? Have a little read on my views about his possible return.
http://bit.ly/rnYNd5
kolinkins
12-08-2011, 11:13 AM
Kuqi to the Future? Have a little read on my views about his possible return.
http://bit.ly/rnYNd5
Ibra wasn't the final game of the season :)
Latvian Eagle
12-08-2011, 11:17 AM
Umm, yes. Why does that confuse you?
I just thought the US were tougher on letting people into the country. I know he was only there on "holiday" rather than "working" but I still find it a bit odd. Surely he could have "holidayed" somewhere closer than the US!?
Voldo
12-08-2011, 11:24 AM
Ibra wasn't the final game of the season :)
Oh yeah, i have erased the Forest game from my memory!
time for a quick edit. Cheers.
PauLo
12-08-2011, 11:38 AM
Well they arent always correct are they?
No, but do you honestky think a reporter is going to make up something 'on a wind up' and risk getting in trouble by doing so? I highly doubt it.
The Gerry Queen
12-08-2011, 11:42 AM
Kuqi isnt signing then. I was hoping for the normal freedman comments of ive never of heard of him or this story is a load of rubbish. ;)
Wouldn't suprise me to see him in the warm up tomorrow and on the bench.
ANDYEAGLE
12-08-2011, 11:44 AM
No, but do you honestky think a reporter is going to make up something 'on a wind up' and risk getting in trouble by doing so? I highly doubt it.
I thought that was the norm with reporters:hmph:
I just thought the US were tougher on letting people into the country. I know he was only there on "holiday" rather than "working" but I still find it a bit odd. Surely he could have "holidayed" somewhere closer than the US!?
Work permits are far more complex and generally take much longer. The US are only tougher on tourists visas with the ban on criminals etc. As an Aussie without a criminal record a tourist visa or business visa wouldnt be a big deal.
Chris K
12-08-2011, 12:30 PM
Its an EU permit is it not? So that counts out a large amount of Europe except for places that are less appealing/developed. New York isn't the longest of flights so don't really see an issue with this one
milky87
12-08-2011, 12:49 PM
scored vs. us for Swansea too.
Also worth repeating.
What a goal that was too
SteveyHawking
12-08-2011, 12:53 PM
Very worth repeating.
Didn't Lee used to rave on about how he loved Anglia, wasn't enjoying Palace etc...
Kuqi, just got on with it, got us some key goals and scored vs. us for Swansea too.
Also agree with Kirby that I'd rather see him that Easter but don't think either are the long-term solution.
You can't really say Kuqi just got on with it considering he swore at the fans at home to Wolves!
stinky
12-08-2011, 12:54 PM
You can't really say Kuqi just got on with it considering he swore at the fans at home to Wolves!
I think the best of us would struggle to keep calm if you're constantly getting abused and sworn at
milky87
12-08-2011, 12:55 PM
You can't really say Kuqi just got on with it considering he swore at the fans at home to Wolves!
That was a bad moment as we all know.
As soon as he came back (was told he will never play for us again but due to injuries we had no choice) he scored at Forest (was also booed when he come on as a sub) and was a key part of the team and never gave less that 100%
milky87
12-08-2011, 12:56 PM
1fa5
I think the best of us would struggle to keep calm if you're constantly getting abused and sworn at
Exactly.
I do not care how much someone gets paid.
Look at Beckham at LA Galaxy, he was trying to get in the stands to fight people
cp eagles
12-08-2011, 01:20 PM
Looks like its not going to happen in time for tomorrow game shame
ThisIsDoM
12-08-2011, 01:59 PM
What about when Kuqi went on loan to Ipswich who were challenging us to get a playoff spot and was going on about how Ipswich were a bigger club than us and deserved promotion more?
thehalifaxman
12-08-2011, 02:01 PM
The SLP this morning said we can register him as late as 12noon tommorow to start the game if Murray fails a fitness test.
cp eagles
12-08-2011, 02:03 PM
The SLP this morning said we can register him as late as 12noon tommorow to start the game if Murray fails a fitness test.
cheers thehalifaxman
CP Satellite
12-08-2011, 02:12 PM
Perhaps we can get Davids back too? :afro: :o :p
Neckinger Eagle
12-08-2011, 02:18 PM
What's Alan Whittle doing tese days?
ForestGateEagle
12-08-2011, 02:23 PM
Get Shipperley back as emergency cover for right back and have him stand on the goal line for 90 minutes.
Ticks all kinds of boxes:
defending deep
negative tactics
bringing back old heroes to keep the fans happy
looking backwards rather than forwards
recruiting unfit players
guaranteeing a struggling team
make opposition look good
keep relegation as a realistic prospect from week 2 of the season
keep youngsters out of the team
being generally clueless
etc
Ruskin Old Boy
12-08-2011, 02:26 PM
What's Alan Whittle doing tese days?
:D
We want Whittle, we want Whittle :lux:
Ruskin Old Boy
12-08-2011, 02:26 PM
Get Shipperley back as emergency cover for right back and have him stand on the goal line for 90 minutes.
Ticks all kinds of boxes:
defending deep
negative tactics
bringing back old heroes to keep the fans happy
looking backwards rather than forwards
recruiting unfit players
guaranteeing a struggling team
make opposition look good
keep relegation as a realistic prospect from week 2 of the season
keep youngsters out of the team
being generally clueless
etc
:D
Aren't you glad (all over) you're going on holiday soon John? :)
WHITTLE
12-08-2011, 02:30 PM
:D
We want Whittle, we want Whittle :lux:
Did someone call ? :D
Ruskin Old Boy
12-08-2011, 02:33 PM
Did someone call ? :D
:D Yes, Dougie's been trying to get hold of you; Peter Burridge is going to his grandson's wedding so is unavailable.
thehalifaxman
12-08-2011, 02:41 PM
cheers thehalifaxman
no problem cp eagles
WHITTLE
12-08-2011, 02:42 PM
:D Yes, Dougie's been trying to get hold of you; Peter Burridge is going to his grandson's wedding so is unavailable.
Boots are on already and i'm off to Beckenham, I'll pick up Rogers and Mulligan on the way :lux:
ForestGateEagle
12-08-2011, 02:57 PM
:D
Aren't you glad (all over) you're going on holiday soon John? :)
Unfortunately nohing booked at the moment. But after last week's Peterborough shambles, I've been leafing through the brochures pretty franticallly!
AJ's right boot
12-08-2011, 03:18 PM
Its an EU permit is it not? So that counts out a large amount of Europe except for places that are less appealing/developed. New York isn't the longest of flights so don't really see an issue with this one
No. European countries signed up for the schengen agreement but the UK did not. Thank god.
Ruskin Old Boy
12-08-2011, 03:22 PM
Boots are on already and i'm off to Beckenham, I'll pick up Rogers and Mulligan on the way :lux:
:D
If you're in time you might find Steve Kember there :p
Ruskin Old Boy
12-08-2011, 03:23 PM
Unfortunately nohing booked at the moment. But after last week's Peterborough shambles, I've been leafing through the brochures pretty franticallly!
Good idea. May go for the long overdue weekend to Madrid
kabbott
12-08-2011, 03:40 PM
Did someone call ? :D
Hello Alan! :hi:
pardew's shorts
12-08-2011, 03:45 PM
Aside from the fact that I really don't rate SK, my main bone of contention is that we have a sizable squad already. Players like Moxey, Iversen and Murray are only unavailable for a short period.
I'm not keen on bringing in players on short-term deals/loans every time a player is out for a couple of weeks. We have players here to cover. It takes a brave manager to back up his words with deeds (DF in the summer made many a reference to using the kids as it's the way we have to go as a club, and he also was at pains to point out the sort of players he wasn't going to bring in - ie guys like SK).
I find it ridiculous that in Murray's absence, Pinney hasn't even made the 16 tomorrow. I often bang the drum of the academy players, but it's not just them. Whilst looking for options in central midfield, why is O'Keefe so out of favour? He's done very well in his only first-team appearances to date, and looked good in pre-season.
Chillo
12-08-2011, 03:50 PM
1f48
Where would you rather Jedi had gone?
The Aldebarn (sp) system?
W Malling Eagle
12-08-2011, 03:51 PM
I find it ridiculous that in Murray's absence, Pinney hasn't even made the 16 tomorrow. I often bang the drum of the academy players, but it's not just them. Whilst looking for options in central midfield, why is O'Keefe so out of favour? He's done very well in his only first-team appearances to date, and looked good in pre-season.
Not least because of these 2 points, I'm worried that Dougie hasn't really got a clue. How can Easter be ahead of Pinney in the pecking order? Easter offers no goal threat whatsoever, whereas Pinney has at least shown he knows where the goal is, albeit in friendlies. O'Keefe and Williams shone in pre-season, yet seem unlikely to be given a chance. I really want to be wrong as DF is a true Palace legend, but I'm really concerned at the moment. I bet Burnley really fancy their chances tomorrow!
GodstoneEagle
12-08-2011, 03:54 PM
confused - has he actually signed? where has all this come from?
I thought he was training with us?
WHITTLE
12-08-2011, 04:20 PM
Hello Alan! :hi:
:hi: Kabbott, just call me Whittle, Alan's not really my name :clown:
Pub Idol
13-08-2011, 09:29 AM
assume this is dead then ?
WillEagle
16-08-2011, 06:58 PM
Kuqi is in the main stand with Moxey and Dorman...... s**t
Riccardo
17-08-2011, 12:23 PM
So....it's not happening ?
Whyteleafe_Sage
17-08-2011, 12:36 PM
assume this is dead then ?
Let's hope so...
honeysuckle
17-08-2011, 01:50 PM
. A short term experienced head. I think he could play well with the younger strikers and we may get more from them too, as a result.
Haven't we got Iversen for this purpose? Mind you defenders used to hate playing against him. Sign him for the reserves and play him against Millwall and Brighton's youngsters !
Beckenham Boy
30-08-2011, 09:43 AM
http://www.southlondon-today.co.uk/sport.cfm?id=31970&headline=Addicks%20not%20keen%20on%20Kuqi%20deal
Addicks not keen on Kuqi deal
Tuesday, 30 August 2011
By Richard Cawley
CHARLTON have rejected the chance to sign Shefki Kuqi.
The 34-year-old striker is still a free agent following his release by Newcastle United at the end of last season.
And the Addicks were contacted about whether they would be interested in the Finnish international, who has been training with former club Crystal Palace to keep fit.
But the League One promotion-chasers have other targets they are pursuing.
Follow me on Twitter - @RichCawleySLP.
gold76
30-08-2011, 09:47 AM
Orient seem to be in the major brown stuff already this term, he'd do a good 'Bully' job for them.
Sp1Eagle
30-08-2011, 03:29 PM
ShefkiKuqi Shefki Kuqi
..in talks - all I say for now
Il Padrino
30-08-2011, 03:32 PM
ShefkiKuqi Shefki Kuqi
..in talks - all I say for now
Not going his way by the look of things...
rhiannapaul
30-08-2011, 04:27 PM
ian wright looks in reasonable shape
Beckenham Boy
31-08-2011, 02:36 PM
ShefkiKuqi Shefki Kuqi
on my way to a championship club, hope I get deal done!
deftones_eagle
31-08-2011, 02:48 PM
If he signs for us, he'll be shite. If he signs for a rival championship side he'll score against us. FACT.
SEEPEEEFFSEE
31-08-2011, 02:49 PM
Please God no.
old badger
31-08-2011, 02:52 PM
ShefkiKuqi Shefki Kuqi
on my way to a championship club, hope I get deal done!
Hope you don't :clown:
joe walker
31-08-2011, 02:54 PM
He tweeted a few weeks ago that he was considering retirement due to not being able to find a club (probably because he is his own agent), so great news for him if he can agree a deal wherever it is.
Doubt it's here but if it is, not unhappy.
cpfc4ever
31-08-2011, 03:07 PM
He won't sign for us DF has already said he's not looking to sign him.
TC EAGLE
31-08-2011, 03:31 PM
ShefkiKuqi Shefki Kuqi
on my way to a championship club, hope I get deal done!
Birmingham apparently
Stavros 69
31-08-2011, 03:43 PM
he's shit
Jordan's Jacket
31-08-2011, 03:49 PM
Dreadful beast
the kooch
31-08-2011, 03:51 PM
ShefkiKuqi Shefki Kuqi
..in talks - all I say for now
with Domino's probably
He is certainly a good buy if the price is right. If he want 8-10k+ a week then forget it, but, if he'll take 2-4k at most Championship teams, then that would be reasonable.
Sp1Eagle
31-08-2011, 09:04 PM
1526
Former Newcastle man Shefki Kuqi going to Oldham on a free.
La Bombonera
31-08-2011, 09:34 PM
Hefty Kuqi. Wanker :p
Owngoal
31-08-2011, 09:37 PM
They are doomed then!
Sp1Eagle
03-09-2011, 02:34 PM
Debut goal.
Cjbear
03-09-2011, 04:42 PM
Debut goal.
He'll smash it in League 1
hoskingt
03-09-2011, 11:56 PM
Alan Lee hit the bar in the same game. Djilali also won a penalty for the Wombles and Ryan Hall scored for Southend! :lux:
milky87
04-09-2011, 07:51 AM
Alan Lee hit the bar in the same game.
What a goal it would have been too
Beckenham Boy
17-08-2012, 12:31 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19288541
Hibernian land striker Shefki Kuqi on one-year deal
Former Blackburn and Crystal Palace striker Shefki Kuqi has joined Hibernian on a one-year deal.
The 35-year-old has been capped 62 times for Finland and scored 11 goals for League One Oldham last season.
"With Shefki what you see is what you get," manager Pat Fenlon told the Edinburgh club's website.
"He is an old fashioned target man who can hold the ball up and get his head on the end of corners. He is a strong-minded player."
The striker, formerly of Ipswich, Swansea and Newcastle, watched Sunday's 1-1 draw with local rivals Hearts from the director's box at Easter Road.
And the Kosovo-born player was impressed by the derby atmosphere.
"That was my first taste of Scottish football," he said. "I was overwhelmed by the passion and enthusiasm shown by the Hibernian supporters.
"If the players and supporters can work together, then I believe we can enjoy some good times and I'm excited about the next challenge in my career."
Meanwhile, Lewis Stevenson will miss the next few weeks after suffering an injury to his big toe during the clash with Hearts.
Fenlon told the Hibs website: "We're not totally sure just how long exactly Lewie is going to be out for, but it will definitely be for a few weeks.
"Unfortunately there is a small fracture on his big toe and we will carefully manage him and monitor his progress."
the kooch
17-08-2012, 12:33 PM
kuqi is a fat ice
milky87
17-08-2012, 12:48 PM
he will bag 25 goals there
Zohar Returns
17-08-2012, 01:06 PM
Hibs is my Scottish team now are visiting there on a stag do. I must say the Loch Inn pub nearby was an experience I will never forget.
PauLo
17-08-2012, 01:25 PM
Always loved the Kuq. Good luck to him :p
milky87
17-08-2012, 01:37 PM
Train home from Norwich when he scored the winner
zMUSf7Y-XaM
From page 1 of this thread, posted 05-11-2001!!!
What's happened to Aaron Wilbraham, does he still play for them? Where is he, I think he's good and he's tall!!!
CrystalOrient
17-08-2012, 01:54 PM
"With Shefki what you see is what you get," manager Pat Fenlon told the Edinburgh club's website.
:D
Soarin' Eagles
17-08-2012, 02:14 PM
From page 1 of this thread, posted 05-11-2001!!!
Eleven years too late!
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