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oz_da II
08-07-2007, 06:44 AM
The AFC Asian Cup kicked off last night.
Co-hosts Thailand drew with Iraq 1-1 in torrential rain. Good result for Thailand. The other two teams in that group kick off tonight. Australia vs Oman.
Anything short of a finals appearance from Australia will be very disappointing. Kewell looked very good in last weeks friendly, expect Harry to be one of the best players of the tournament.
Japan, South Korea, Iran and possibly Saudi Arabia would appear to be the other challengers for the trophy. Any other country winning the cup would be a huge upset.
Looking forward to it. :p
sydney eagle
08-07-2007, 06:49 AM
Originally posted by oz_da II
expect Harry to be one of the best players of the tournament.
Maybe,if he can go 5 miniutes without getting injured
oz_da II
08-07-2007, 06:49 AM
Former Palace trainee Teerathep Winothai came close to wining it last night. His teammate has an interesting name. :D
Six minutes later Thai coach Chanvit Polchovin responded with a double substitution as veterans Therdsak and Kiatisuk made way for the youthful vigour of Suchao Nutnum and Teerathep Winothai.
Nutnum almost had a hand in giving the Thais the lead with six minutes remaining when his dangerous cross from the right came off Iraq left-back Bassim Abbas only to be kept out by Sabri.
The keeper again came to Iraq's rescue when he turned Teerathep's blistering angled drive out for a corner as the home side searched in vain for the goal that would give them their first ever Asian Cup win in regulation time.
oz_da II
08-07-2007, 06:53 AM
Originally posted by sydney eagle
Maybe,if he can go 5 miniutes without getting injured
A fair point. ;)
sydney eagle
08-07-2007, 06:54 AM
is it on tele oz_da?
oz_da II
08-07-2007, 06:58 AM
FoxSports2
8pm Eastern.
sydney eagle
08-07-2007, 07:10 AM
might have to check it out:p
Bintang
08-07-2007, 08:32 AM
Bought tickets for the QF and Final yesterday. Am assuming Japan v Australia final, but there are Iran and Uzbekistan to worry about for you guys as well.
ozeagle
08-07-2007, 08:45 AM
Originally posted by sydney eagle
Maybe,if he can go 5 miniutes without getting injured
he can never play again for Oz and i won't give a shit.
oz v uruguay, telstra stadium, single greatest 1 man effort ever in an Oz shirt.
oz v croatia, w.c. end of.
:lux:
ozeagle
08-07-2007, 08:47 AM
Originally posted by oz_da II
FoxSports2
8pm Eastern.
don't tell graham ;)
The Omen
08-07-2007, 10:57 AM
Originally posted by Bintang
Bought tickets for the QF and Final yesterday. Am assuming Japan v Australia final, but there are Iran and Uzbekistan to worry about for you guys as well.
And Bintang was nice enough to grab tickets for me too!
Don't be afraid to say we're going, and supporting, Indonesia against Saudi Arabia next Saturday too (I can make it) :D
COME ON INDONESIA!! :lux:
sydney eagle
08-07-2007, 11:08 AM
Oman 1 Australia 0 at ht
:eek:
Skin Up
08-07-2007, 11:22 AM
Not expecting anything from South Korea, total lack of interest here and sending over a weakened squad.
ozeagle
08-07-2007, 11:40 AM
neil, please provide more information on that front.
could be some VERY good betting opportunities.
;)
ozeagle
08-07-2007, 11:41 AM
Originally posted by The Omen
COME ON INDONESIA!! :lux:
:bash:
Skin Up
08-07-2007, 11:58 AM
Park Ji-sung, Lee Young-pyo, Seol Ki-hyeon and Kim Nam-il are all out I think Lee Dong Guk is staying in England too, so they are taking a lot of kids.
They have a tough group Saudi Arabia (who they always lose to), Bahrain (dunno but they got to the WC qualifing play off) and Indonesia (host nation always hard to beat).
Adlerhorst
08-07-2007, 11:58 AM
Oman still 1 up. Aus started with 2 defenders, unl;ess you count Wiltshire as a defender, and i hardly count him as a footballer.
Adlerhorst
08-07-2007, 12:06 PM
Not long now - Kisnorbo been replaced with another striker so Aus down to one defender now.
Seagulleater
08-07-2007, 12:11 PM
1fc2
Originally posted by oz_da II
Former Palace trainee Teerathep Winothai came close to wining it last night. His teammate has an interesting name. :D
Where did he go to, wasnt he supposed to be the dog's, the next superstar of football??????............SGE
sydney eagle
08-07-2007, 12:13 PM
Cahill saves them once again
the aussies have been awful tonight
Farawayeagle
08-07-2007, 12:56 PM
Depressing to see Arnold take Australia back to the days of Farina. No shape and desperate long balls.
ozeagle
08-07-2007, 01:28 PM
couldn't agree more. woeful effort. melbourne victory would have beaten that mob.
INSIPID.
oz_da II
08-07-2007, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by Farawayeagle
Depressing to see Arnold take Australia back to the days of Farina. No shape and desperate long balls.
Funny how Farina gave Arnold the "seal of approval" last week.
Well that was embarrassing. Defense woeful. Says something when your keeper is man of the match, well played Schwarzer.
I wonder if the stretcher bearers were on commission. I counted 8 on field appearances. Just as embarrasing as the Australian performance.
Apart from that Oman played very well, luckily for Australia they had little composure in front of goal, should have been at least two goals up.
Nice to see Cahill saving the day, the side has a different look when Timmy is on the pitch.
sydney eagle
08-07-2007, 08:18 PM
spot on about Schwartzer oz_da, if it wasn't for him it would of been a very embarassing night for australia
Farawayeagle
08-07-2007, 08:45 PM
It's scandalous that Arnold still doesn't have his defence sorted out after all this time.
When the senior players say they support him it makes me suspicious that they have a bit too much input into the selection process.
TonysMumsabitch
09-07-2007, 03:26 AM
GRRRRRRRR, FECKING ARNOLD.
Would it be so bold, so revolutionary to play two strikers from the start of a game for once ?!?!?!?!?
The Omen
09-07-2007, 03:48 AM
Great result for Vietnam last night beating UAE.
Need Indonesia to do the same tomorrow now against Bahrain! :lux:
ozzieEagle
09-07-2007, 04:16 AM
Originally posted by Farawayeagle
It's scandalous that Arnold still doesn't have his defence sorted out after all this time.
When the senior players say they support him it makes me suspicious that they have a bit too much input into the selection process.
Apparently this Oman team, as under 21's beat Brazil and Germany.
At least Aussie have reached the stage now, where they are expected to win by margins, now what other national team do we all know that regularly underperforms. ?
Hopefully the players take the situation into their own hands, and shrug off the Arnold factor.
crystaljim
09-07-2007, 04:31 AM
Originally posted by Farawayeagle
It's scandalous that Arnold still doesn't have his defence sorted out after all this time.
When the senior players say they support him it makes me suspicious that they have a bit too much input into the selection process.
Agreed, Kewell was playing in the role that Franky gave him against Uruguay. He has to assert himself ( Arnold, that is)
philaire
09-07-2007, 05:36 AM
The best we can hope for is that Australia is “doing an Italy” by having a slow start to the tournament. My ideal scenario from here is sneaking into second place in the group, beating Japan with a dodgy penalty in the quarters, then picking up their form from that point onwards.
I’m optimistic that last night could give the wake up call that was needed. I'm not convinced the Aussies are mentally attuned for this tournament. It doesn’t help that Viduka only decided marginally on balance that he would play instead of pre-season with Newcastle – then gets rewarded for this act of “loyalty” by being made captain. It’s only in the last couple of days that there have been some statements tempering the bravado that has suggested we are going to clean sweep the tournament with no problems. I just hope that the performance picks up in the next two games. After all the heartache of getting into Asia it’d be a terrible shame for the players not to take it seriously.
One thing that is abundantly clear is that Frank Lowy has absolutely no intention of keeping Arnold in the #1 spot come the WC qualifiers. He’ll be fine as a good no. 2.
joyce the voice
09-07-2007, 05:44 AM
how good are Japan these days?
Skid Row
09-07-2007, 05:50 AM
I have never seen a team blatantly cheat as much as Oman did last night. New rule, if you get taken off on a stretcher, you're off for 2-3 minutes.
Having said that, Oman looked pretty good when the were playing football.
Craig Moores ass hole is more talented than Kisnorbo.
Wilkshire, I dont know what I can say, he is just shit, full stop. Surely we have a left back out there somewhere so this guy cant play.
I dont know how Holman gets a run either. If he's the future then the future is bleak.
Adlerhorst
09-07-2007, 05:56 AM
Originally posted by ozzieEagle
now what other national team do we all know that regularly underperforms. ?
One assumes you are having a dig at the English football team, though in that case it is only misguided idiots who read the tabloids and the misguided idiots that write the articles are the ones that think England should win everything, and hence accuse them of underperforming. The rest of us with eyes realise they are simply not that good, and quarterfinals is quite frankly a bit of a result.
On the other hand the world and his mother expects Australia to beat pretty much everyone in Asia, as do the Aussie football association, as why else change to that qualification process from Oceania. Frankly i would love FIFA to give the winners of the Oceania qualifying spot an automatic WC place (and i would take it from Asia), and not allow Aus to rejoin.
1f4c
oz_da II
09-07-2007, 06:05 AM
Originally posted by The Omen
Great result for Vietnam last night beating UAE.
Need Indonesia to do the same tomorrow now against Bahrain! :lux:
C'mon Bahrain.
oz_da II
09-07-2007, 06:10 AM
Originally posted by Adlerhorst
Frankly i would love FIFA to give the winners of the Oceania qualifying spot an automatic WC place (and i would take it from Asia), and not allow Aus to rejoin.
So the 137th ranked country (at best) in world football would automatically qualify for the World Cup?
Adlerhorst
09-07-2007, 06:20 AM
Originally posted by oz_da II
So the 137th ranked country (at best) in world football would automatically qualify for the World Cup? Rather that than pretending you are located somewhere you are not. I feel the same way about Israel and the Eurovision song contest if that helps.
You can hardly expect the rest of the world to look favourably on what has happened.
oz_da II
09-07-2007, 06:26 AM
Originally posted by Adlerhorst
Rather that than pretending you are located somewhere you are not. I feel the same way about Israel and the Eurovision song contest if that helps.
You can hardly expect the rest of the world to look favourably on what has happened.
We're more Asian over here than we are Oceanic (whatever that is).
Adlerhorst
09-07-2007, 06:29 AM
Originally posted by oz_da II
We're more Asian over here than we are Oceanic (whatever that is). So you have more in common with Kazhakstan and Iran than Tonga, Fiji and NZ?
Okay i can understand you might want some of their oil but after that i am struggling.
oz_da II
09-07-2007, 06:32 AM
Originally posted by Adlerhorst
You can hardly expect the rest of the world to look favourably on what has happened.
So you would rather Australia (or the sheepshagging rugby nation) get a free pass to every World Cup than fight it out against the Asian nations.
I'd much rather qualify through Asia, possibly missing out occassionally, than be the token Oceanic nation for every WC.
As it goes they should make it an Australasian Federation and get rid of the Oceanic Federation.
philaire
09-07-2007, 06:36 AM
Originally posted by Adlerhorst
Rather that than pretending you are located somewhere you are not. I feel the same way about Israel and the Eurovision song contest if that helps.
You can hardly expect the rest of the world to look favourably on what has happened. Absolute nonsense. Australia was a member of, played in, and qualified from the Asian zone over the years 1966 to 1982. Oceania was never treated seriously by the rest of the football world, whether Australia was in it or not. The good that will come out of the current situation is that Oceania will be rolled into an Eastern Asian zone, with South Korea, Japan etc, while a Western Asian Zone should accommodate Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia etc.
But frankly I think FIFA should firstly deal with a much more fundamental and longer-running aberration. Why should a country like the United Kingdom be allowed to have four members of FIFA? ;)
Adlerhorst
09-07-2007, 06:37 AM
Originally posted by oz_da II
So you would rather Australia (or the sheepshagging rugby nation) get a free pass to every World Cup than fight it out against the Asian nations.
I'd much rather qualify through Asia, possibly missing out occassionally, than be the token Oceanic nation for every WC.
As it goes they should make it an Australasian Federation and get rid of the Oceanic Federation. I would rather that Australia or whoever continues to attempt to qualify as they had always done rather than deciding that it was too difficult to beat the fifth placed team in South America and fecking off to Asia where no one plays football to any serious degree or standard.
Given that you guys have fecked off to Asia where no one plays football to any serious degree or standard, then yes i would rather whoever was left in your previous qualifying group got the WC place that you will undeniably get every year.
If i was Iceland i would be having a serious look at the North American and Carribean section, as Greenland is pretty close to Canada and it would be a shoe in for them every time.
oz_da II
09-07-2007, 06:37 AM
Originally posted by Adlerhorst
So you have more in common with Kazhakstan and Iran than Tonga, Fiji and NZ?
What's that got to do with anything?
Last time I checked Iceland didn't have much in common with Armenia.
crystaljim
09-07-2007, 06:38 AM
Originally posted by Adlerhorst
I feel the same way about Israel and the Eurovision song contest if that helps.
.
You will soon feel the same way about Israel and Euro 2008. :)
On your other point there should never have been an Oceania group. Asia should ber split into Asia and Asia Pacific with an equal amount of qualifying spots available. We would then compete equally within that group including NZ etc, as well as Japan and possibly Korea for world cup qualification.
oz_da II
09-07-2007, 06:41 AM
Originally posted by Adlerhorst
I would rather that Australia or whoever continues to attempt to qualify as they had always done rather than deciding that it was too difficult to beat the fifth placed team in South America and fecking off to Asia where no one plays football to any serious degree or standard.
This has been mentioned a million times on these boards.
A nation can't expect to play 2 meaningful games every four years and be match-ready to qualify for the World Cup against a nation that has played more than 30 meaningful matches.
crystaljim
09-07-2007, 06:41 AM
Oops sorry Phil, you beat me to it. Great minds etc . :)
joyce the voice
09-07-2007, 06:46 AM
no-one know anything about Japan?:(
oz_da II
09-07-2007, 06:51 AM
236f
Originally posted by joyce the voice
no-one know anything about Japan?:(
Soundly beaten by Australia in the last world cup ;) and they eat a lot of fish.
Adlerhorst
09-07-2007, 06:51 AM
Originally posted by philaire
Absolute nonsense. Australia was a member of, played in, and qualified from the Asian zone over the years 1966 to 1982. Oceania was never treated seriously by the rest of the football world, whether Australia was in it or not. The good that will come out of the current situation is that Oceania will be rolled into an Eastern Asian zone, with South Korea, Japan etc, while a Western Asian Zone should accommodate Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia etc.
But frankly I think FIFA should firstly deal with a much more fundamental and longer-running aberration. Why should a country like the United Kingdom be allowed to have four members of FIFA? ;) But before 86 there was not a Oceania qualifying section. Now there is. Deal with it.
Re the UK thing. While the UK is a country. Also England, Scotland, Wales and NI are too (countries within countries - all a bit dodgy constituitionally, but that's okay as we don't have a constitution). I would rather have nothing to do with the others (and all i have to do with them at the moment is pay for their existance) so would keep our four seperate teams and also seperate out anywhere where we are jointly represented.
oz_da II
09-07-2007, 07:03 AM
Originally posted by Adlerhorst
But before 86 there was not a Oceania qualifying section. Now there is. Deal with it.
So if anything is ever unjust or unfair everyone should just "deal with it"?
Wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning, grumpy? :hi:
oz_da II
09-07-2007, 07:10 AM
As it goes we did "deal with it".
We got out of the ridiculous situation. Good luck to New Zealand. Not that too many of them will be bothered. :clown:
Maybe Vanuatu will beat them again.
philaire
09-07-2007, 07:20 AM
Originally posted by Adlerhorst
While the UK is a country. Also England, Scotland, Wales and NI are too (countries within countries - all a bit dodgy constituitionally…).So provided a country has a dodgy constitution, then there’s no problem. Thankfully the rest of the world hasn’t cottoned on to that lurk. We’d have Bavaria, Catalonia, the Basque region, Western Australia, Queensland and hundreds of others queuing up for the football privileges that England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have managed to cling to all these years… :;)
Farawayeagle
09-07-2007, 07:24 AM
Originally posted by joyce the voice
no-one know anything about Japan?:(
They are in a bit of a transition period. They haven't been playing that well recently but still a good team -- and they have Nakamura.
Many of the players turned up late for their pre tournament training because of club commitments.
ozeagle
09-07-2007, 07:27 AM
Originally posted by oz_da II
Soundly beaten
pointlessly thrashed.
cheated a goal. then leaked 3 in 8 mins when the real pressure of t cahill was applied.
great memories.
:lux:
ozeagle
09-07-2007, 07:27 AM
and japan will beat qatar.
ozeagle
09-07-2007, 07:30 AM
Originally posted by oz_da II
C'mon Bahrain.
i heartily 2nd that.
:lux:
oz_da II
09-07-2007, 07:37 AM
Originally posted by ozeagle
i heartily 2nd that.
:lux:
Countries I'll be supporting in this tournament include:
1) Australia
2) anybody playing Indonesia
The Omen
09-07-2007, 08:19 AM
Originally posted by oz_da II
Countries I'll be supporting in this tournament include:
1) Australia
2) anybody playing Indonesia
LOL you lot are so predictable. :S:
I agree with the Asian qualifying section though, it should be split.
West, Central and South Asia should make one qualifying section:
Bahrain
Iraq
Jordan
Kuwait
Lebanon
Oman
Palestine
Qatar
Saudi Arabia
Syria
United Arab Emirates
Yemen
Afghanistan
Bangladesh
Bhutan
India
IR Iran
Kyrgyzstan
Maldives Republic
Nepal
Pakistan
Sri Lanka
Tajikistan
Turkmenistan
Uzbekistan
And East Asia, ASEAN and Oceania teams should make the other:
China PR
Chinese Taipei
DPR Korea
Guam
Hong Kong
Japan
Korea Republic
Macau
Mongolia
Australia
Brunei Darussalam
Cambodia
Indonesia
Laos
Malaysia
Myanmar
Philippines
Singapore
Thailand
Timor Leste
Vietnam
American Samoa
Cook Islands
Fiji
New Caledonia
New Zealand
Samoa
Soloman Islands
Tonga
Vanuatu
Papua New Guinea
Tahiti
Farawayeagle
09-07-2007, 08:42 AM
Originally posted by Skid Row
Wilkshire, I dont know what I can say, he is just shit, full stop. Surely we have a left back out there somewhere so this guy cant play.
I dont know how Holman gets a run either. If he's the future then the future is bleak.
There's a 22 year old left back at Manly Utd called Roberto Hamad who is better than what we've seen. He reminds me of Kenny Sansom in his young days. He's a natural left footer too.
Can't see him staying in the NSW Premier League much longer.
I agree about Holman. He gets in good positions - and then wastes the ball.
kayjay
09-07-2007, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by Adlerhorst
I would rather that Australia or whoever continues to attempt to qualify as they had always done rather than deciding that it was too difficult to beat the fifth placed team in South America and fecking off to Asia where no one plays football to any serious degree or standard.
Given that you guys have fecked off to Asia where no one plays football to any serious degree or standard, then yes i would rather whoever was left in your previous qualifying group got the WC place that you will undeniably get every year.
If i was Iceland i would be having a serious look at the North American and Carribean section, as Greenland is pretty close to Canada and it would be a shoe in for them every time.
Your argument falls to pieces as Iceland are already in Europe
which gives them an opportunity to improve themselves against
good opposition on an annual basis.
To switch to North America might make it easier to qualify
every four years, but in doing so, their standard of football
would go downhill due to exposure in a crap conference.
The qualifying criteria through Oceania is just ridiculous!
Asia provides the infrastructure needed for continual improvement
through Cup and club football instead of remaining in the football wilderness. Belting NZ every 4 years - though morbidly satisfying -
was getting us nowhere!
1fa5
kayjay
09-07-2007, 10:55 AM
Originally posted by oz_da II
Countries I'll be supporting in this tournament include:
1) Australia
2) anybody playing Indonesia
Memo to self -
Add Indonesia to Collingwood and NSW bracket.
ozeagle
09-07-2007, 01:34 PM
good to see i'm not alone in my disgust for this rancid backwater.
TonysMumsabitch
09-07-2007, 11:17 PM
Not a single result has gone to script yet.
crystaljim
09-07-2007, 11:24 PM
Humidity and heat are playing a huge part in the results
Bintang
10-07-2007, 12:08 AM
Originally posted by ozeagle
good to see i'm not alone in my disgust for this rancid backwater.
Your feelings are well known thank you and have nothing to do with the AFC Asian Cup 2007?
ozeagle
10-07-2007, 12:29 AM
they have plenty to do with wherever Indonesia is involved....
philaire
10-07-2007, 01:34 AM
lay off, oz.
Japan held to a draw. Interesting set of results all up so far.
sydney eagle
10-07-2007, 01:38 AM
Agreed Phil
Lets keep this football/tournament related
ozeagle
10-07-2007, 02:21 AM
yes, ok. i'll keep the vitriol to more relevant sections of this forum.
phil, i take it you'll be at CHU?
what's this i hear of Robbie Fowler at Bling F.C?
sydney eagle
10-07-2007, 03:17 AM
so is it the group with China on tele tonight?
philaire
10-07-2007, 03:39 AM
Originally posted by ozeagle
phil, i take it you'll be at CHU? v North Caulfield at KB reserve (4 Aug)? Will have to coordinate with, er, netball commitments, but hope to get there!
ozeagle
10-07-2007, 04:23 AM
my word is that it'll be transferred back to the old (fortress) ground.
no need to groundshare now it's rained.
pitch should be in pristine order for us to run onto when we score.
sydney eagle
10-07-2007, 12:14 PM
Indonesia2 Bahrain 1
FT
Crowd going mental
Player with the best name- Bambang
:D
ozeagle
10-07-2007, 12:24 PM
jakartan rodent pit going off.
indonesia's no.6 should have been sent off for that deliberate kick of the ball into the bahraini? bloke's guts. whistle had clearly gone, and the look on his face as he booted it.
still, take nothing away from the hosts, good win, good spectacle, bar for the incessant diving, on both sides.
ozeagle
10-07-2007, 12:27 PM
Originally posted by philaire
v North Caulfield at KB reserve (4 Aug)? Will have to coordinate with, er, netball commitments, but hope to get there!
round is the ball, nice one. like it.
look forward to the piece on CHU.
:lux:
Bintang
10-07-2007, 12:28 PM
Too much play-acting from both sides. But that's what you get in Asia. Good result for Indonesia. Will be different against Saudi and Korea though.
Clapham Grand
10-07-2007, 12:31 PM
I'd just like to go back to the hilarious fact that Oz scraped a draw with Oman :)
ozeagle
10-07-2007, 12:32 PM
in Asia?
across the world.
something needs to be done.
we had a bloke here in the AFL on the weekend who had to have a needle injected into his lung, on the pitch, to keep him alive.
meanwhile we have these primadonnering softcocks rolling about as if they've been shot....
great sport, forever ruined by insidious officialdom and masquerading, overpaid tools.
ozeagle
10-07-2007, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by Clapham Grand
I'd just like to go back to the hilarious fact that Oz scraped a draw with Oman :)
no problems.
cast your mind back to Valentine's Day 2003.
:lux:
The Omen
10-07-2007, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by ozeagle
no problems.
cast your mind back to Valentine's Day 2003.
:lux:
Would that be the day England played a friendly?
Not really comparable to your strongest team failing to beat Oman in a major championship game. In fact that's not fair. You didn't fail to beat them - you were lucky to even get a point!
INDONESIA! Only their second win in an AFC game. Great result. Thought they showed a lot of determination and fighting spirit (when they weren't rolling around injured). The Bahrain team were huge in comparison.
Palace should look at the Bahrain number 3 - Abdullah Marzooq. He looked like a big, tidy centre back.
oz_da II
10-07-2007, 02:17 PM
Originally posted by The Omen
Would that be the day England played a friendly?
Not really comparable to your strongest team failing to beat Oman in a major championship game. In fact that's not fair. You didn't fail to beat them - you were lucky to even get a point!
I won't mention Northern Ireland...
:clown:
Bintang
10-07-2007, 02:48 PM
China looked good beating Malaysia 5-1.
The Omen
10-07-2007, 03:50 PM
1f5c
Originally posted by Bintang
China looked good beating Malaysia 5-1.
Didn't see the match, but I think China have a good chance of doing well. They have a strong squad and beating Malaysia in Malaysia would not have been an easy game imo so the score is even more impressive.
Brett
10-07-2007, 06:27 PM
Go China.
Been poop since the 2002 World Cup flop so hope this result isn't a false dawn.
limited_edition
10-07-2007, 11:07 PM
Malaysia nicked our Cup Final Replay kit.
crystaljim
10-07-2007, 11:09 PM
Originally posted by limited_edition
Malaysia nicked our Cup Final Replay kit.
Didn't help them much!
oz_da II
10-07-2007, 11:21 PM
Originally posted by The Omen
Didn't see the match, but I think China have a good chance of doing well. They have a strong squad and beating Malaysia in Malaysia would not have been an easy game imo so the score is even more impressive.
From what I saw it was extremely easy. Malaysia woeful, their keeper horrendous.
kayjay
11-07-2007, 08:45 AM
1. Yellow card for acting hurt! (every time)
2. Stretchered off player can't return!
Diving and time wasting will be stamped out in no time!
sydney eagle
11-07-2007, 10:33 AM
iran looking ok at the moment
sydney eagle
11-07-2007, 10:37 AM
and as I say that they concede a goal LOL
oz_da II
11-07-2007, 10:45 AM
A comical goal as well.
OG!!! :lux:
sydney eagle
11-07-2007, 10:51 AM
Originally posted by oz_da II
A comical goal as well.
OG!!! :lux: quality header though:D
Lambeth Palace
11-07-2007, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by crystaljim
On your other point there should never have been an Oceania group.
You're right, who was responsible for this aberration?
ozeagle
11-07-2007, 02:03 PM
australia unlikely to play in the final (if they make it) due to terrorist threat in, yep, you guessed it, jakarta....
:rolleyes:
ozeagle
11-07-2007, 02:21 PM
lights oxo-ed ....
betting syndicates on the draw or saudi with the hcp.
;)
Bintang
11-07-2007, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by ozeagle
australia unlikely to play in the final (if they make it) due to terrorist threat in, yep, you guessed it, jakarta....
:rolleyes:
Is that a fact or not?
Bintang
11-07-2007, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by ozeagle
lights oxo-ed ....
betting syndicates on the draw or saudi with the hcp.
;)
Betting syndicates in Asia - never ;) ;)
Happened in a Palace game once. Malaysian betters wasn't it?
ozeagle
11-07-2007, 02:35 PM
fact. was on the news here 10 mins ago.
ozeagle
11-07-2007, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by Bintang
Betting syndicates in Asia - never ;) ;)
Happened in a Palace game once. Malaysian betters wasn't it?
yes.
could just be some over enthusiastic locals happy to see Indonesia top of the group ;)
got to be a betting syndicate. these things don't just happen.
:lux:
Funk Butter
11-07-2007, 02:41 PM
So what are they gonna do about the game? Replay it? Have the score stand? It was in the 90th minute right? A 1-1 scoreline is good for my group bets.
ozeagle
11-07-2007, 02:47 PM
back on now, 85th min. half lights working...
ozeagle
11-07-2007, 02:48 PM
disgraceful acting again....
authorities must do something.
ozeagle
11-07-2007, 02:52 PM
what a miss...
ozeagle
11-07-2007, 02:53 PM
korea are faecal.
oz_da II
11-07-2007, 02:55 PM
What a miss at the end...
93rd minute one on one with the keeper. :moo:
Bintang
11-07-2007, 02:55 PM
Who was the Australian commentator?
oz_da II
11-07-2007, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by ozeagle
disgraceful acting again....
authorities must do something.
They never will. The idiots in charge must enjoy it.
Funk Butter
11-07-2007, 02:56 PM
How come they don't do what they did in Italy years ago, if you dive and act a fool, you get suspended the next game. I was watching the Brazil/US U-20 game and it was the same thing every time, the Brazilian guy would go down, rolling around holding his shin. The ref would give a free kick, the Brazilian would give this "Where's the card" look to the ref, then just get up and run down the field.
The Omen
12-07-2007, 07:09 AM
1faa
Originally posted by ozeagle
yes.
could just be some over enthusiastic locals happy to see Indonesia top of the group ;)
got to be a betting syndicate. these things don't just happen.
:lux:
You've obviously never been to a third world country!
ozeagle
12-07-2007, 07:34 AM
on the contrary, i've been to Indonesia ;)
Batam, Bintan
not to mention Johor in Malaysia and various sumps in Eastern Europe.
oz_da II
12-07-2007, 01:13 PM
Taibi like keeping from the Qatar keeper.
What a stinker. :clown:
sydney eagle
12-07-2007, 01:56 PM
I'm enjoying this vietnam/qatar game
sydney eagle
12-07-2007, 02:12 PM
1-1 now Qatar equalise
sydney eagle
12-07-2007, 02:30 PM
ended 1-1
best game of the tournament so far
ozeagle
12-07-2007, 02:42 PM
agree. cracking match, backed up by a feral local crowd.
viets went soft in the final 10, pooped themselves as if they'd devoured a bad rice paper roll when qatar scored....
crystaljim
13-07-2007, 06:39 AM
well who would have thought Thailand would turn around and soundly beat Oman? Adds more spice to tonites game. A must win now more than ever.
ozzieEagle
13-07-2007, 07:29 AM
Off to Bridie O reileys, to watch with some of The Moreland City Mob, here in Brunswick.
Australia have to fire up.... Hopefully.
Sportsbet have a offer you put 10 bucks on the asian cup and get a free football,
ozeagle
13-07-2007, 07:36 AM
we'll win easily.
FFS, a nation torn apart via war v the greatest on earth.
poor iraqi's can't even train for fear of death.
arnold must go immediately if we can't win this.
kayjay
13-07-2007, 08:31 AM
arnold must go immediately regardless of result!
philaire
13-07-2007, 09:01 AM
Originally posted by ozzieEagle
Off to Bridie O reileys, to watch with some of The Moreland City Mob, here in Brunswick.
Australia have to fire up.... Hopefully.
enjoy ozzie. After a protracted series of internal negotiations I've just entered Foxtel land. Quite exciting.
sydney eagle
13-07-2007, 10:42 AM
Iraq 1 Aussies 0
20 mins
:eek:
ozeagle
13-07-2007, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by philaire
enjoy ozzie. After a protracted series of internal negotiations I've just entered Foxtel land. Quite exciting.
as previously discussed, best $50 a month ever spent.
welcome.
you can never go back.
remember the secret AFL channel, 518.
:p
ozeagle
13-07-2007, 11:03 AM
iraqi's cheating.
withdraw the troops ASAP.
sydney eagle
13-07-2007, 11:10 AM
Aussies are just as guilty Julian
Grella is a grade a twat and could of been booked 5 or 6 times
Kewell whinges more than any woman Ive ever met
Kisnorbo is a joke, that bit at the end of the half where he nearly gifted them a second goal sums him up
Australia is getting exctly what they deserve for the performance they're showing
sydney eagle
13-07-2007, 11:13 AM
and how they can keep a real classy player like Cahill on the bench when the aussies are playing sunday league football is unbelievable
The Omen
13-07-2007, 11:19 AM
HA HA HA HA HA
:D :lux:
sydney eagle
13-07-2007, 11:25 AM
Viduka scores
1-1
ozeagle
13-07-2007, 11:38 AM
kisnorbo is diabolical.
sydney eagle
13-07-2007, 11:38 AM
2-1 Iraq
sydney eagle
13-07-2007, 11:39 AM
Originally posted by ozeagle
kisnorbo is diabolical. understatement of the year
ozeagle
13-07-2007, 11:39 AM
Originally posted by sydney eagle
Australia is getting exctly what they deserve for the performance they're showing
agree,
but our guys don't go down like a sack of shit under no duress.
:hmph:
sydney eagle
13-07-2007, 11:40 AM
Iraq should of scored again just now
sydney eagle
13-07-2007, 11:42 AM
ohhhh your man crush is coming on now for Culina, Julian;)
:D
ozeagle
13-07-2007, 11:49 AM
wonderful player, Paul, no one would disagree.
ozeagle
13-07-2007, 11:49 AM
more talent in Archie's poo than in Culina.
ozeagle
13-07-2007, 11:50 AM
striker central!!
we've got 11 for the remainder. kiss-knob off.
1f82
Lambeth Palace
13-07-2007, 11:51 AM
This cup is a great laugh.
ozeagle
13-07-2007, 11:52 AM
agree. at least we'll see the back of our b graders, and, arnold.
sydney eagle
13-07-2007, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by ozeagle
wonderful player, Paul, no one would disagree. I used to think he was over rated but he really is a good player and has already made an instant impact in this game so fair play to him
sydney eagle
13-07-2007, 11:54 AM
what a brilliant chip by Mohammad and great save by Schwartzer
ozeagle
13-07-2007, 11:57 AM
Originally posted by sydney eagle
I used to think he was over rated but he really is a good player and has already made an instant impact in this game so fair play to him
:p
all mine
hands off.
:hi:
ozeagle
13-07-2007, 11:59 AM
how are we to front young flat noodle when thailand spank us?
ozeagle
13-07-2007, 12:00 PM
more faking.
ozeagle
13-07-2007, 12:03 PM
saddam couldv'e ruled these softcocks with a feather.
no need for genocide.
FFS
:rolleyes:
ozeagle
13-07-2007, 12:04 PM
3-1 :D
sydney eagle
13-07-2007, 12:04 PM
3-1
Lucas neill defending like kisnorbo
sydney eagle
13-07-2007, 12:05 PM
bet Grella gets sent off before this ends
ozeagle
13-07-2007, 12:07 PM
arnold out chants ;)
sydney eagle
13-07-2007, 12:07 PM
Aussies chanting ARNOLD OUT
:D
spot on imho
ozeagle
13-07-2007, 12:07 PM
frightening thing is that if we beat the noodles we go through ;)
(they'll get 5 at home)
sydney eagle
13-07-2007, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by ozeagle
frightening thing is that if we beat the noodles we go through ;)
I doubt they could beat an egg at the moment
sydney eagle
13-07-2007, 12:13 PM
Lucas Neill sent off
sydney eagle
13-07-2007, 12:15 PM
Well played Iraq,Fully deserved win
Bintang
13-07-2007, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by ozeagle
we'll win easily.
FFS, a nation torn apart via war v the greatest on earth.
poor iraqi's can't even train for fear of death.
arnold must go immediately if we can't win this.
:D
ozeagle
13-07-2007, 12:24 PM
thanks for bringing that up.
arnold out.
abhorrent effort.
put the mortgage on Thailand at the Asian hcp. they'll score at least 3 against this defence.
sydney eagle
13-07-2007, 12:25 PM
Graham Arnolds interview was an eye opener just now
"some players don't want to be here"
when asked if he was disappointed in Neills send off he replied
"Lucas Neill was poor all night in general"
he certainly didnt mince his words
ozeagle
13-07-2007, 12:30 PM
you do that when you've effectively been sacked.
Bintang
13-07-2007, 12:31 PM
I was really hoping to see Australia in the Final, but can't see that happening if they carry on this way. The players don't seem to care which is a shame for the supporters who've spent a lot to get there. But hey, all they have to do is beat Thailand to get to the next stage.
ozeagle
13-07-2007, 12:32 PM
they won't beat Thailand, no way in hell.
Thailand are certs.
ozeagle
13-07-2007, 12:34 PM
captain and coach now disagreeing....
sydney eagle
13-07-2007, 12:35 PM
Viduka shouldn't talk on air:D
Bintang
13-07-2007, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by ozeagle
they won't beat Thailand, no way in hell.
Thailand are certs.
Come on, where's that Palace spirit? While there's still a chance ......
The Omen
13-07-2007, 12:43 PM
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c140/jedisentinal/simpsons_nelson_haha2.jpg
ozeagle
13-07-2007, 12:43 PM
no.
no chance.
not interested.
The Omen
13-07-2007, 12:46 PM
I'm glad Australia don't look like making the final. I would be worried the stadium would be a target.
ozeagle
13-07-2007, 12:59 PM
21be
need i say more
:rolleyes:
The Omen
13-07-2007, 01:25 PM
I want to say more:
AFC CUP
Iraq 3-1 Australia
http://www.davebytes.com/guy_rolling_on_floor_laughing_lg_wht.gif
oz_da II
13-07-2007, 01:27 PM
Kosmina + Arnold = certain failure
ozzieEagle
13-07-2007, 01:30 PM
That was f...ing embarrassing.
how often have Iraq played together as a team.
oz_da II
13-07-2007, 01:31 PM
I don't know if anyone noticed but that looked like an Adelaide United side out there tonight. Australia clearly the better side with regards to skill but clearly "outgunned" with any idea of how to play football.
oz_da II
13-07-2007, 01:35 PM
Kosmina = an absolute embarrassment in his tenure at Adelaide United, sacked for his incompetence. What should we do with him now?
I know let's make him second in charge with the national team. Absolute joke.
If those two buffoons don't resign tonight, sack 'em.
ozzieEagle
13-07-2007, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by oz_da II
Kosmina = an absolute embarrassment in his tenure at Adelaide United, sacked for his incompetence. What should we do with him now?
I know let's make him second in charge with the national team. Absolute joke.
If those two buffoons don't resign tonight, sack 'em.
There was more to it that than though, how could Aussie have all those forwards... Bresciano, Viduka, Cahill, Kewell, and our local Idol, Thompson, and barely get a sniff, they shouldn't even need a coach.
Two Iraqi forwards made the whole lot look ordinary.
Oh well, it should bring fruit in the end, serves us, the public, the team, and the media hype right, for expecting to walk it.
Makes a change from Oceania, it's in the long term Aussie best interest.
oz_da II
13-07-2007, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by ozzieEagle
There was more to it that than though, how could Aussie have all those forwards... Bresciano, Viduka, Cahill, Kewell, and our local Idol, Thompson, and barely get a sniff, they shouldn't even need a coach.
Two Iraqi forwards made the whole lot look ordinary.
Oh well, it should bring fruit in the end, serves us, the public, the team, and the media hype right, for expecting to walk it.
Makes a change from Oceania, it's in the long term Aussie best interest.
We've got 5 Premiership players (all starters), 2 Serie A players and 1 adequate player from PSV, one buffoon from Leicester, a hack from B Rovers (moved to the Netherlands?) and a kid from Norway (replaced at HT by a returning from injury Premiership starter). They don't need a manager to beat those hacks from Iraq. It looked like a clueless Premiership side playing a clued up League 2 side. Embarrassing is too kind. The buck stops at the idiots in charge, get rid tomorrow. Put the Duke in charge and send Arnold and Kosmina home right now.
ozeagle
13-07-2007, 01:58 PM
we could try Chris Connolly, he'll be sans job come Sunday 8pm ;)
oz_da II
13-07-2007, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by ozeagle
we could try Chris Connolly, he'll be sans job come Sunday 8pm ;)
I'm actually thinking he could do a better job... :(
What's Arnold ever done?
ozeagle
13-07-2007, 02:06 PM
why don't you put your hand up?
i'll give you the seal of approval ;)
oz_da II
13-07-2007, 02:17 PM
Originally posted by ozeagle
why don't you put your hand up?
i'll give you the seal of approval ;)
I'd almost back myself againt Kisnorbo.
Steady at the back this season, clean sheets 3 out of the last 4 matches in the B's. Elevated to captaincy as well. :clown:
crystaljim
13-07-2007, 10:53 PM
Well played Iraq, we were crap but you did what was necessary to win and we really need to thump thailand to get through. There are a few players out there in the green and gold that think they are above this and we are getting what we deserve.
Having a coach that panders to their egos rather than tell them to shut up and play the game doesn't help matters at all.
sydney eagle
13-07-2007, 11:19 PM
Originally posted by oz_da II
Australia clearly the better side with regards to skill but clearly "outgunned" with any idea of how to play football. Give Iraq the credit they deserve. They surprised me with the free flowing football they played especially when they were attacking.
philaire
13-07-2007, 11:20 PM
We don't need to thump Thailand to get through - just beat them, provided Iraq don't lose to Oman, as I believe head-to-head record counts, not goal difference. Mind you, how can we count on beating Thailand?
Schwarzer 4 (out of 10) - notwithstanding the save from the chip in the second half, his “effort” for the first goal was an echo of Japan’s goal in Germany, just twice as bad.
Wiltshire 4 – poor, but it’s not his fault we don’t have any one else in the squad who can play at left back
Neill 1 – no discipline, no skill, no marking. The third was all down to him – a joke. And what a great contribution to the national cause getting sent off in the 95th minute. Hero to zero stuff.
Kisnorbo 2 – surely last night provides the nail in his coffin. Thwaite, Beauchamp – anybody!
Emerton 5 – tried as hard as any of the Aussies, but still retain that knack of appalling distribution and dismal choices on the ball
Culina 2 – did he actually get a touch?
Bresciano 2 – hardly saw him and certainly seemed not up for the fight. Is he fit? A huge disappointment again last night
Grella 4 – at least looked committed for two-thirds of the game, but was very lucky to stay on.
Kewell 5 – not fit, nowhere near his best, but wasn’t among the worst offenders last night
Viduka 4 – nice goal, but anonymous for most of the night. His most memorable moment was contradicting Arnold post-match
Holman 3 – poor
Cahill 4 – never got into the game
Thompson – made the A-league look very, very ordinary. The wrong person in the right place on several occasions. Very poor choices on the ball.
Aloisi – no contribution but had no support by the time he came on
Arnold – maybe it was just the raw emotion coming out, but simply lacks the brains - poise – judgement - to think through situations such as his post-match comments. Like Neill, how does he think his actions will help us when we actually (undeservedly) still have a chance of qualifying for the last eight?
20d9
philaire
13-07-2007, 11:23 PM
Originally posted by sydney eagle
Give Iraq the credit they deserve. They surprised me with the free flowing football they played especially when they were attacking. Yes, they were very impressive. Calm, smooth, intelligent, lively - everything Australia was not last night.
sydney eagle
13-07-2007, 11:24 PM
I'd agree with all that except I'd take 4 points off your Kewell score.He clearly has done absolutely nothing but whine in this tournament
philaire
13-07-2007, 11:29 PM
Originally posted by sydney eagle
I'd agree with all that except I'd take 4 points off your Kewell score.He clearly has done absolutely nothing but whine in this tournament I agree with the commentators that he seems to spend too much time mouthing to the ref. But tell me who played better than him for the Aussies last night (not that anyone played well)? We spend a lot of time measuring him against the Kewell of Leeds Utd six years ago, rather than someone who has struggled with chronic injury for at least the last three. We'll never see vintage Kewell again, but he still gets into good positions and thinks about what he does with the ball. There weren't too many last night with the gold shirts who could claim that.
Farawayeagle
13-07-2007, 11:30 PM
It was madness to play the same team as from the Oman game with only Brett (I run around a lot) Holman coming in as the only change.
Arnold seems to have forgotten that we are playing against an Asian Team. They like to pass the ball about and normally have one or two forwards who can do some damage on the break. He doesn't seem to have done much research on the oppositon -- or he's ignored it if he has.
Neill in central defence worked OK in the World Cup but he is not comfortable there in this comp.
Kisnorbo is a waste of space at this level.
In the Thailand game I'd play Milligan at right back Thwaite and Beauchamp in central defence and Carney at left back (Only because he is a natural left footer and Wiltshire is crap).
I'd play a midfield of (right to left) Emerton Cahill Carle Kewell
Cahill can do Grella's job.
Forward Viduka and Aloisi or Thompson.
Grella, Bresciano and Culina -- have failed to perform.
Emerton is more effective when he's on the wing as we saw with his cross for the goal.
Both Carney and Kewell on the left can run at defenders and get in good crosses.
But Arnold has to stop these hopeful balls into the centre of the box from midfield. these Asian defences seem to thrive on them. Wide players cutting back inside and playing balls like this just plays into the oppositions hands.
I think Hiddink would have made changes much earlier in the game and I think he would have ordered Neill, Grella and Kewell to stop whinging to the ref.
Neill getting two cards for dissent is pathetic for a player of his experience.
ozeagle
13-07-2007, 11:30 PM
we saw the vintage Kewell in Nov '05.
that's all that matters.
best one man effort in Australian football history.
;)
ozeagle
13-07-2007, 11:33 PM
this culina, has anyone ever seen him do anything decent?
neill showed last night that he should NEVER captain Australia.
one word for that display, from all of them.
GUTLESS.
Farawayeagle
13-07-2007, 11:34 PM
Originally posted by philaire
I agree with the commentators that he seems to spend too much time mouthing to the ref. But tell me who played better than him for the Aussies last night (not that anyone played well)? We spend a lot of time measuring him against the Kewell of Leeds Utd six years ago, rather than someone who has struggled with chronic injury for at least the last three. We'll never see vintage Kewell again, but he still gets into good positions and thinks about what he does with the ball. There weren't too many last night with the gold shirts who could claim that.
I'd agree to an extent. But he has whinged a bit more than he should be doing.
I don't think Hiddink would have allowed it. He's better when he just concentrates on his game. People will try to kick him -- Asian referees will be inconsistent in their awarding of free kicks and cards. That's a given.
sydney eagle
13-07-2007, 11:34 PM
I honestly think he was one of the poorest last night,Brett Emerton was australias best player last night imho.he put in many good crosses in down the right wing.I don't remember Kewell doing anything of note the whole game
I feel sorry for schwartzer, he's getting slammed because of the first goal but I can just imagine his nervousness with that defence in front of him. He saved them from another embarassing score during that second half
philaire
13-07-2007, 11:42 PM
Originally posted by sydney eagle
I feel sorry for schwartzer, he's getting slammed because of the first goal but I can just imagine his nervousness with that defence in front of him. He saved them from another embarassing score during that second half His save from the chip was great, but made no other memorable or difficult saves. The commentators rightly pointed out that the defence was set too deep for the first goal, but what's was wrong with Schwarzer taking three steps off his line and yelling "keeper's ball"? You'd only see it a few thousand times around football grounds in Australia every Saturday.
philaire
13-07-2007, 11:45 PM
Originally posted by sydney eagle
Brett Emerton was australias best player last night imho.he put in many good crosses in down the right wing. But how many times do you see Emerton shooting when he should pass, dribbling when he should pass, passing in the wrong direction and so on. I've had a lifetime's full of those memories from him. He saw a lot of the ball last night, but his decisions on the ball means that Australia gets much poorer value than they should for his possession.
kayjay
14-07-2007, 01:16 AM
Originally posted by kayjay
arnold must go immediately regardless of result!
Didn't see the game last night as a
40th birthday celebration ensued.
Refer aforementioned!!
It's like being coached by your mates little brother -
spend half the time sticking "kick me" signs on his back
and the other half booting him into next week!
Would I be wrong in assuming that the player
focus around the hotel pool has been on upcoming
English and European season and not on
wearing the green and gold?
Fitness, strength, skill and talent
count for nothing if its not happening between the ears!
2133
The Omen
14-07-2007, 03:37 AM
Joking aside, how is this getting reported in Australia? Is it headline news?
After the World Cup, when Australia was on a real high and you lot were saying how football will really take off now, these performances at the AFC Cup must be devastating.
As someone else said, surely with the squad you have out there, you shouldn't even need a manager to beat the likes of Oman and Iraq.
I'm off to the Indonesia v Saudi game in a few hours. Ozeagle - make sure you watch the build up and the match - you never know what you might see!! :D
PalaceFan in Alabama
14-07-2007, 04:12 AM
It seems as if the Oz soccer ball has deflated, who would have thunked it after their display at Upton Park, only goes to prove what us England supporters have known over the years, you are only as good as your last performance :bash:
oz_da II
14-07-2007, 04:14 AM
Originally posted by The Omen
Joking aside, how is this getting reported in Australia? Is it headline news?
Yes
Originally posted by The Omen
After the World Cup, when Australia was on a real high and you lot were saying how football will really take off now, these performances at the AFC Cup must be devastating.
Not really, if anything it's good for the long run, it will get Arnold and Kosmina out sooner rather than later.
oz_da II
14-07-2007, 04:24 AM
Originally posted by PalaceFan in Alabama
It seems as if the Oz soccer ball has deflated
The future is very bright (U-23's doing very well in Olympic qualifications), two shit performances and it is all over? Don't think so.
PalaceFan in Alabama
14-07-2007, 04:31 AM
Originally posted by oz_da II
The future is very bright (U-23's doing very well in Olympic qualifications), two shit performances and it is all over? Don't think so.
Time will tell, but lets not put the house on it, just yet :p
ozeagle
14-07-2007, 08:04 AM
Originally posted by The Omen
I'm off to the Indonesia v Saudi game in a few hours. Ozeagle - make sure you watch the build up and the match - you never know what you might see!! :D
Schapelle Corby pardoned?
:bash:
Bintang
14-07-2007, 09:03 AM
Off to the Indonesia v Saudi game now. 100,000 sell out crowd. Should be fun. Watch out for us.
That Australian performance was nearly as embarrassing as England's was getting beat by the Oz 3-1 in our own back yard!
I really enjoyed it. Well done Iraq!
sydney eagle
14-07-2007, 10:50 AM
Malaysia down 2-0 after 20 mins against Uzbekistan
sydney eagle
14-07-2007, 11:07 AM
3-0 46th min
sydney eagle
14-07-2007, 12:23 PM
Ange Postecoglou is the aussies best footie pundit by miles
sydney eagle
14-07-2007, 12:27 PM
the 100,000 crowd look good at the Indonesia game
ozeagle
14-07-2007, 02:07 PM
100 000 indonesians in one spot....
ozeagle
14-07-2007, 02:34 PM
ha ha....
go the oil drillers!!!
:lux:
The Omen
14-07-2007, 06:10 PM
Wow what a game. Felt so sorry for the Indonesian fans. They created an atmosphere like I had never experienced (and I've been to World Cup finals before), sung their hearts out the whole game and the team gave their all, but just fell 1 min short of a fantastic result.
I was suprised when I saw the stadium - a lot more impressive than I was expecting:
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/4199/cimg1852ip8.jpg
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6332/cimg1859nf4.jpg
Lots of police and army were on hand with sticks that make an English Policeman's truncheon look a little pathetic...
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/9479/cimg1862bw7.jpg
The stadium was pretty much full and the Indonesian supporters were in full support with drums, fireworks, toilet rolls - the lot
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/8924/cimg1864ft7.jpg
Sadly they couldn't hold on and Saudi nicked a last min winner
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/4232/cimg1912uo6.jpg
Still... Bintang and I enjoyed ourselves! :p
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/2062/cimg1872vf0.jpg
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/6237/ozeaglebj6.jpg
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/8732/carlphilza8.jpg
The Omen
14-07-2007, 06:16 PM
By the way I have video footage of the crowd when Indonesia scored. The noise is incredible - 100,000 people all going mad at the same time is something everyone should experience! Sadly it's 21mb and would take forever to upload from a 56k modem.
Anyone have any ideas or free programs which would allow me to make it smaller?
sydney eagle
14-07-2007, 08:18 PM
LMFAO at the ozeagle sign :D:D:D
steve hail
15-07-2007, 01:10 AM
This Aussie team looks nothing like the Adelaide side which (second grand final aside) was the most successful team in the A-League seasons one and two. Don't blame Kosmina. He's only the assistant coach. It is the overpaid, complacent prem players who are to blame, if anyone.
Adelaide United very rarely give anyone an easy game, get at the opposition, get good crosses in from players like Dodd, Petta, Pantelis, etc..AND DON'T OFTEN LOSE.
I am certain that players like Qu, Fernando and even Nathan Burns and Travis Dodd would have had a field day against the Aussie side we saw play the first two games in this competition. I am also certain Ange Costanzo would have played a million times better than either of the two central defenders Graham Arnold selected.
I'll tell you who the national team reminded me of from the A-League - New Zealand Knights at their very worst. Lucky to scrape the odd draw, probably going to lose...
They are capable of so much better. We'll see what they are made of against Thailand.
1f71
The Omen
15-07-2007, 04:35 AM
Oz report on ESPN
Aussies' Asian anguish
Jason Dasey
Archive
All the complacent talk of going through undefeated to win the tournament is long gone. Australia's Asian Cup dream is now hanging by a thread.
After a draw and a defeat, the Socceroos go into Monday's final group match needing a big victory over in-form, host nation, Thailand in Bangkok to advance to the quarter-finals.
'One, Two, Three& We're Down For the Count,' rang out the headline in the Sydney Morning Herald newspaper after a stunning 3-1 loss to Iraq on Friday night.
Incredibly, an Australian team containing six English Premier League and two Serie A stars including Mark Viduka, Harry Kewell and Tim Cahill was played off the park by a bunch of part-timers from a divided, war-torn nation.
A lucky 1-1 draw against Oman in the opener seemed bad enough. But the subsequent two-goal defeat to the Iraqis proved that Australia's World Cup honeymoon is well and truly over.
Without super-coach Guus Hiddink - who stepped down after the defeat to ultimate champions Italy in the second round of Germany 2006 - the Socceroos have alarmingly regressed with, more or less, the same core group of players.
And the man who took over from Hiddink - his former assistant Graham Arnold - is coming under fire, with renewed predictions that he'll be replaced by a foreign-born manager after the Asian Cup.
Former national coach Rale Rasic says that Australian-born Arnie is 'too close' to the players. Ex-Socceroo and football analyst Craig Foster accuses the 2007 squad of 'tactical indiscipline' and of abandoning the Dutch-style system Hiddink so successfully introduced two years ago.
Arnold, himself, has described some of his senior players of giving the impression that they 'didn't want to be here'.
Captain Viduka, Australia's lone goal-scorer against Iraq, responded by saying that the squad's commitment could not be questioned because the players had cut short their holidays in the name of national duty.
But Liverpool's Kewell, who has started both Australia's matches to date, said: 'We, as a team, need to pull our fingers out.'
Before the tournament, Australia had looked ahead to the Thailand game as a possible chance to rest players with a quarter-final spot already secured after two victories. Instead, the Socceroos will start underdogs against the unbeaten Thais who need just a draw to be sure of advancing in front a predicted sell-out crowd at Bangkok's Rajamangala National Stadium.
Australia's chances became even fainter when their most experienced defender, Lucas Neill of West Ham United, picked up a late red card against Iraq, to rule himself out of the final group match. The Socceroos, without the retired Tony Popovic and the unavailable Craig Moore and Scott Chipperfield, have been appalling at the back.
Already the inquests have begun into Australia's non-performance.
'What cannot be disputed,' wrote Michael Lynch in the Sydney Morning Herald, 'is that playing against the best Asian sides, in Asian conditions, is a far more formidable task than almost everyone associated with the Australian game ever realised.'
Those Asian conditions - the toughest the Socceroos have ever experienced - have seen game-time temperatures of 35 degrees C with 80% humidity.
A large contingent of travelling fans - believed to be as many as 5,000 - are disappointed but haven't given up hope. Many attended an opening training session two days before the crucial match against Thailand.
'Some of us are booked all the way to the Jakarta final so we better make it through,' said 35-year-old Shane Porter, a Sydney FC supporter. 'If not, then I guess we'll just have to use it as a holiday.'
About a third of the fans in Thailand also followed the Socceroos to last year's World Cup, including 27-year-old Leigh Iffland, also of Sydney.
'This experience has been a lot more relaxed and a lot less regimented,' he said. 'In Germany, it was all about the football. In Thailand, it's a lot more touristy and we see plenty of visitors who aren't here for the games.'
Supporters of rival A-League clubs, Sydney FC and Queensland Roar, have been combining Asian Cup matches with side trips to destinations like Phuket.
For 33-year-old John McCormack, a Melbourne-born but Brisbane-based Queensland Roar fan, it was an experience he didn't want to miss.
'It's awesome even though we haven't been winning,' he said. 'My family are Aussie Rules supporters and if you're into AFL you never get a chance to experience this.
'But the Socceroos have to improve and I'm confident we're going to do that.'
In Monday's crucial game, the Socceroos will be greeted by a patriotic sea of gold - the colour the Thais wear to show respect to their beloved King.
Not for the first time in their inaugural Asian Cup, the green-and-gold Aussies will need every bit of inspiration - intended or otherwise - to preserve an already tattered reputation.
oz_da II
15-07-2007, 06:08 AM
Originally posted by steve hail
This Aussie team looks nothing like the Adelaide side which (second grand final aside) was the most successful team in the A-League seasons one and two. Don't blame Kosmina. He's only the assistant coach. It is the overpaid, complacent prem players who are to blame, if anyone.
Adelaide United very rarely give anyone an easy game, get at the opposition, get good crosses in from players like Dodd, Petta, Pantelis, etc..AND DON'T OFTEN LOSE.
The buck stops at the top, the top man is Arnold. To blame the players is pathetic. Who was the last man to do that? I think his name was Frank... We get a world class coach in and looks what happens, they all play like champions, we get a local chump in and they play like chumps. If you pay peanuts you're going to get monkeys.
Adelaide United were anchored by Kosmina, I watched many a game and they always appeared clueless. The only reason they got results was because thier squad outclassed the opposition and they would somehow manage to scrape across the line. Come finals they got found out each year.
Adelaide United getting good crosses in? I must have blinked and missed them. They go through the middle everytime yet probably possess the best wide men in the league. Kosmina is tactical inept and a buffoon as well. His antics in last year's semi final were a disgrace to the game. He shouldn't be allowed within a 100 mile radius of the national team.
ozeagle
15-07-2007, 06:59 AM
see what happens when they jettison kosmina?
5-0 over Melb today ;)
ozeagle
15-07-2007, 07:02 AM
Originally posted by sydney eagle
LMFAO at the ozeagle sign :D:D:D
even i had to laugh at that.
quality. credit where it's due.
:p
still does nothing to quell my disdain for the abhorrent place.
:bash:
ozzieEagle
15-07-2007, 07:14 AM
2106
Originally posted by ozeagle
see what happens when they jettison kosmina?
5-0 over Melb today ;)
Had me worried for a sec then, had to go and check.
1-1 in Launceston in front of 9,000, not bad for a pre-season game, in neutral territory.
MV fans not happy with their run in, been scored against in every pre season game.
ozeagle
15-07-2007, 07:18 AM
;)
Bintang
15-07-2007, 07:43 AM
Originally posted by ozeagle
even i had to laugh at that.
quality. credit where it's due.
:p
still does nothing to quell my disdain for the abhorrent place.
:bash:
Fair enough.
When the photo with me and the Indonesian Army guys was being taken, there was a whole bunch of other soldiers on the other side of the road trying to read what the sign said. The look on their faces was classic, they hadn't a clue what it was all about.
It could have read "Freedom to Papua" for all they knew. :)
ozeagle
15-07-2007, 12:32 PM
no doubt had the word "Australia" appeared on it, it would have been a totally different matter....
still giggling here, by the way, as is the missus.
;)
Brett
15-07-2007, 12:58 PM
China 2 Iran 2. Disappointed not to win and secure progress after being 2-0 up. The Uzbek match could get a bit lively now.
philaire
15-07-2007, 01:17 PM
Superb pictures, T.O., very thoughtful thinking of oz like that ;)
Craig Foster on SBS today was predictably but rightly critical of Arnold. The story has now developed into analysing what player factions are at work. Seems like tension between Viduka and Neill after the former got the captaincy. With the V-bomber now likely to retire after this tournament, Neill of course has now given his chances a great boost with his brain-overload on 94 mins. And apparently he blasted the media for turning up to the open training session! But the biggest criticism remains for Arnold's non-man management.
Also pointed out today that the Aussies still aren't treating the opposition with respect, with scant recognition of Thailand's chances.
philaire
15-07-2007, 01:17 PM
Originally posted by PalaceFan in Alabama
It seems as if the Oz soccer ball has deflated, who would have thunked it after their display at Upton Park, only goes to prove what us England supporters have known over the years, you are only as good as your last performance :bash: Cheers and greetings PFiA! Funny how you gravitated to this thread. Expected you'd be on another thread analysing USA's exit from Copa America. ;)
PalaceFan in Alabama
15-07-2007, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by philaire
Cheers and greetings PFiA! Funny how you gravitated to this thread. Expected you'd be on another thread analysing USA's exit from Copa America. ;)
I save all of my excuses for CPFC ;)
ozeagle
16-07-2007, 02:13 AM
Originally posted by philaire
Also pointed out today that the Aussies still aren't treating the opposition with respect, with scant recognition of Thailand's chances.
all aboard the flat noodles at $7.
:lux:
ozzieEagle
16-07-2007, 02:50 AM
Quiet simply, carry on regardless. Treat this as day 1, If they cant beat Thailand, then there are massive ramifications ahead for Aussie Soccer.
Thailand should not stand a chance.
Maybe the Hometeam crowd will make for a better atmosphere thus making the Aussie players realise they are in a real game.
Heres hoping the last two games, will fade into the past as a surreal nightmare.
sydney eagle
16-07-2007, 03:24 AM
are they really paying $7 Julian? I might get a piece of that
seems like it's the bookies as well as the aussie team underestimating things in the asian cup
ozeagle
16-07-2007, 04:08 AM
if i see kiss-knob's name on the starting sheet i'll be down the TAB ASAP.
international dud of the indonesian order.
sydney eagle
16-07-2007, 05:47 AM
Originally posted by ozeagle
if i see kiss-knob's name on the starting sheet i'll be down the TAB ASAP.
. I wonder how much he'll pay for an own goal:D
Skin Up
16-07-2007, 06:00 AM
Why on earth didn't they go for another foreign coach after Hiddink?
High level Australian football is still in it's infancy, they are IMO 10 years away from a quality home grown coach. Maybe when someone like Cahill retires he'll have the right experience.
In the meantime, there's not exactly a shortage of experienced unemployed Euro managers.
Usual fayre from Korea last night, have most of the possession but can't find a decent finisher for love nor money.
hong_kong_hg
16-07-2007, 06:09 AM
This tournament is the nuts. A few tinnies methinks tonight will be opened to cheer on the Thais... :)
ozzieEagle
16-07-2007, 06:15 AM
Aussie 3 - Thailand 1, for some reason I've got a strong hunch about it. Can't beleive they will play 3 times badly in a row.
philaire
16-07-2007, 07:11 AM
Originally posted by Skin Up
Why on earth didn't they go for another foreign coach after Hiddink?
High level Australian football is still in it's infancy, they are IMO 10 years away from a quality home grown coach. Maybe when someone like Cahill retires he'll have the right experience. In the meantime, there's not exactly a shortage of experienced unemployed Euro managers. Money I believe is the reason Skin Up. It’s a classic chicken and egg situation with Australian football trying to pull itself up by its own bootstraps. But FFA’s finances are spread thinly across trying to keep the A-league afloat while giving the national team the best chance. In this case they took a risk of keeping a cheaper option (Arnold) in place with a view to getting a decent European coach for WC qualification. They probably figured this was a better use of money than getting a mid-level coach for the entire four years. Only trouble is it’s backfiring badly at the moment.
1f5f
philaire
16-07-2007, 07:15 AM
Originally posted by ozzieEagle
Aussie 3 - Thailand 1, for some reason I've got a strong hunch about it. Can't believe they will play 3 times badly in a row. I hope you're right and others will attest to my pessimism, ozzie, but I can’t see them extricating themselves from this mess. We had all the talk after the Oman game that the Aussies were fired up ready to make good against Iraq. What’s going to be different this time around? Unless we’ve convinced ourselves Thailand are going to be quite beatable. In the current situation I wouldn’t trust them against anyone.
Surfside
16-07-2007, 07:31 AM
Originally posted by ozzieEagle
Aussie 3 - Thailand 1, for some reason I've got a strong hunch about it. Can't beleive they will play 3 times badly in a row.
An optimistic Palace Fan?????? Now I've seen everything
Newozeagle
16-07-2007, 07:56 AM
Originally posted by philaire
I hope you're right and others will attest to my pessimism, ozzie, but I can’t see them extricating themselves from this mess. We had all the talk after the Oman game that the Aussies were fired up ready to make good against Iraq. What’s going to be different this time around? Unless we’ve convinced ourselves Thailand are going to be quite beatable. In the current situation I wouldn’t trust them against anyone.
Not feeling the doom & gloom as a two goal win is an achievable aim. It does have to be a 'grinding out' performace though. Many a GOOD team are crap at first & go on to win big tournaments after just doing the bare minimum and not deserving to progress to the next stage - eg italy of the past.
Fact is no matter what they SAID before/after Oman game, It was never goanna be true. How can any player in their heart of hearts say that they were as fired up as in the WCup. They wont be tonight either!.
However, as professionals they ought to 'grind' out a result and unless Thailand come up with a 'maradona' we've not seen before, they should manage it.
:lux:
...should I come back to earth now??!
Henfield Eagle
16-07-2007, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by philaire
I hope you're right and others will attest to my pessimism, ozzie, but I can’t see them extricating themselves from this mess. We had all the talk after the Oman game that the Aussies were fired up ready to make good against Iraq. What’s going to be different this time around? Unless we’ve convinced ourselves Thailand are going to be quite beatable. In the current situation I wouldn’t trust them against anyone. I've seen Thailandplay a few times and THEY ARE beatable,that is being polite:D :lux:
kayjay
16-07-2007, 10:29 AM
Originally posted by philaire
Money I believe is the reason Skin Up. It’s a classic chicken and egg situation with Australian football trying to pull itself up by its own bootstraps. But FFA’s finances are spread thinly across trying to keep the A-league afloat while giving the national team the best chance. In this case they took a risk of keeping a cheaper option (Arnold) in place with a view to getting a decent European coach for WC qualification. They probably figured this was a better use of money than getting a mid-level coach for the entire four years. Only trouble is it’s backfiring badly at the moment.
All true
ozeagle
16-07-2007, 11:36 AM
thank goodness for the japs.
annexed some 1.6 about them tonight.
hong_kong_hg
16-07-2007, 11:50 AM
Does anyone know for sure whether it is head to head record or goal difference/goals scored which counts - i.e. is Oz out or in with a 1 goal win?
ozzieEagle
16-07-2007, 01:27 PM
Far far better performance from Australia up until half time.
1-0 to Australia.
Kewell not included in the starting line up, Is he a Jonah ?
Carney, best player on pitch.
Looking good, although Aussies defence is very Suss, but we basically all knew that.
At least they look hungry now.
Looks like there is another week in this thread ;)
ozzieEagle
16-07-2007, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by hong_kong_hg
Does anyone know for sure whether it is head to head record or goal difference/goals scored which counts - i.e. is Oz out or in with a 1 goal win?
Aussie will go through, if they beat Thailand, unless Oman beat Iraq.
Then Aussie has to beat the Thais by more goals than Oman score.
Newozeagle
16-07-2007, 01:37 PM
Yup so far so good!. Still need to grind out another goal.
Viduka missedd a sitter & if he does it again we should hang him by the goolies :-)
Newozeagle
16-07-2007, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by Newozeagle
Viduka missedd a sitter & if he does it again we should hang him by the goolies :-)
It was my threat that did it;)
oz_da II
16-07-2007, 02:18 PM
We can see you sneeking out!
We can see you, we can see you...
We can see you sneeking out!
Cheerio Cheerio Cheerio :hi:
oz_da II
16-07-2007, 02:24 PM
All class from Kewell there. :p
Newozeagle
16-07-2007, 02:24 PM
Fantastic, professional work in the 2nd half.
ozeagle
16-07-2007, 02:26 PM
don't be fooled by this effort from Oz.
we are atrocious.
japan will have little trouble getting 2 or more v our insipid defence.
this is a measure of how stupid Arnold is.
FFS, we have 3 world class strikers in Viduka, Cahill, Kewell, and he puts his faith in blokes at the back who were defending 2 seasons ago in the NSW Premier League.
any chance we could play to our strengths rather than our GLARING weakness?
we'll take the win, but i'll be piling plenty on the sushi lovers next up.
ozzieEagle
16-07-2007, 02:28 PM
aaa
AUSTRALIA ARE BACK 4-0
Viduka x 2,
Bit of improvement needed for the Japs,
:lux: :lux: :lux:
Thailand played really well, beleive it or not.
ozeagle
16-07-2007, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by oz_da II
All class from Kewell there. :p
comfortably the best player to ever wear an Australian shirt.
single handedly responsible for our journey to the W.C last year.
wonder goal for Leeds v Palace at Selhurst.
much maligned, for no real reason, other than being a collingwood fan.
;)
ozeagle
16-07-2007, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by ozzieEagle
AUSTRALIA ARE BACK 4-0
:clown:
ozzieEagle
16-07-2007, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by ozeagle
don't be fooled by this effort from Oz.
we are atrocious.
japan will have little trouble getting 2 or more v our insipid defence.
this is a measure of how stupid Arnold is.
FFS, we have 3 world class strikers in Viduka, Cahill, Kewell, and he puts his faith in blokes at the back who were defending 2 seasons ago in the NSW Premier League.
any chance we could play to our strengths rather than our GLARING weakness?
we'll take the win, but i'll be piling plenty on the sushi lovers next up.
Nah, I'll be backing Aussie,
Get Bresciano off, in place of Thomson, he loses the ball at key moments, and I reckon the weakest link.
Shame though, as he made the best football ad I've ever seen.
The Aussie based players are much Hungrier for success.
ozeagle
16-07-2007, 02:31 PM
but not nearly good enough.
ozeagle
16-07-2007, 02:32 PM
much as it pains me to say it, Thompson is not fit to carry Bresciano's boots....
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