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DougleMcNori
27-09-2007, 10:21 AM
The Jose situation had me thinking why, unless im corrected, do none of the top managers i.e. have won championships, europe, cups etc ever take on a REAL management challenge?

Most of them have won virtually everything, have millions in the bank and a solid reputation so why not put your neck on the line and take on a REAL management challenge say taking the job at Rochdale with next to no money to spend and the previous season they escaped relegation by goal difference.....

Just how refreshing would that be? It would really strip down a managers reliance on infrastructure and money already in existence and possibly ruin their repuatation if it doesnt work out but with trophies and millions in the bank why not?

Has this ever happened or do you think it ever will?
GrayP41ace
27-09-2007, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by DougleMcNori
The Jose situation had me thinking why, unless im corrected, do none of the top managers i.e. have won championships, europe, cups etc ever take on a REAL management challenge?

Most of them have won virtually everything, have millions in the bank and a solid reputation so why not put your neck on the line and take on a REAL management challenge say taking the job at Rochdale with next to no money to spend and the previous season they escaped relegation by goal difference.....

Just how refreshing would that be? It would really strip down a managers reliance on infrastructure and money already in existence and possibly ruin their repuatation if it doesnt work out but with trophies and millions in the bank why not?

Has this ever happened or do you think it ever will? [/B]

That will always be the reason. If you're successful with the big boys, why risk it with the minnows?? Also, they may have all the money in the world, but they would still want more, or they would just manage the big boys for nothing.
CPFC_R_GREAT
27-09-2007, 12:22 PM
I think its the same reason The Beatles never did a Eurovision song, for fear of losing to a lithuanian drag act.
:p
adrenalin john
27-09-2007, 12:22 PM
Quite and why doesn't the chairman of HSBC go and run a small porn shop and see if he can turn that into a global bank.
Scroatey
27-09-2007, 12:23 PM
Pawn, surely?
sunshine lucas
27-09-2007, 12:28 PM
... surely this is the reason why Cloughie ranks with the very best -what he did for Notts F...

Edit- sorry I wasn't concentrating - he hadn't won much before 'em had he....
CPFC_R_GREAT
27-09-2007, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by Scroatey
Pawn, surely?

I think there's a market for both!
littlecsaesar
27-09-2007, 02:32 PM
Mourinhio had already done that with Porto. To be fair i'd have ago with all the non qualified manager like Southgate and Grant being given big jobs.
adrenalin john
27-09-2007, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by Scroatey
Pawn, surely?

No no porn, ah I see my error I omited the word sperm, as in turn it into a global sperm bank.
kolinkins
27-09-2007, 02:43 PM
Why dont players do the same?
El Aguila
27-09-2007, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by sunshine lucas
... surely this is the reason why Cloughie ranks with the very best -what he did for Notts F...

Edit- sorry I wasn't concentrating - he hadn't won much before 'em had he....
He won the League with Derby County (after taking the job in the Second Division) and took them to the semi-finals of the European Cup, where they were eliminated in pretty dubious circumstances. Doesn't seem too shabby to me. Another highlight of his career was getting Brighton knocked out of the Cup by Walton and Hersham, 4-0.
Halfwayline
27-09-2007, 02:57 PM
Indeed I would rank what George Burley did at Ipswich, Coppell at Palace/Reading, Curbishley at Charlton as having more merit than winning the Premier League. Could Sir Alex have done anything with these clubs I wonder?
Scotland's No9
27-09-2007, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by Halfwayline
Indeed I would rank what George Burley did at Ipswich, Coppell at Palace/Reading, Curbishley at Charlton as having more merit than winning the Premier League. Could Sir Alex have done anything with these clubs I wonder?

I'd argue that what he achieved with Aberdeen was at least the equal of what Burley and Coppell have achieved: winning their first title for 30+ years and breaking 15 years of Old Firm dominance, several domestic cups and a European Cup Winners Cup isn't a bad return.
Scotland's No9
27-09-2007, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by kolinkins
Why dont players do the same?

Nicky Barmby did (well sort of).
cranesparkeagle
27-09-2007, 07:50 PM
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Originally posted by sunshine lucas
... surely this is the reason why Cloughie ranks with the very best -what he did for Notts F...

Edit- sorry I wasn't concentrating - he hadn't won much before 'em had he....
He won the league with Derby before that. He WAS good and the sad last couple of years make people forget that.
Away Day Eagle
27-09-2007, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by Scotland's No9
I'd argue that what he achieved with Aberdeen was at least the equal of what Burley and Coppell have achieved: winning their first title for 30+ years and breaking 15 years of Old Firm dominance, several domestic cups and a European Cup Winners Cup isn't a bad return.

I'd agree with that.
The Omen
28-09-2007, 05:57 AM
Originally posted by Scotland's No9
Nicky Barmby did (well sort of).

So did Coleman, although money was involved.
Spanish Dan
28-09-2007, 06:15 AM
I guess Lombardo did with us as well - although I'm sure Goldberg's "millions" helped.
New LP
28-09-2007, 10:33 AM
It's like asking why Gordon Ramsey or Jamie Oliver don't leave their current jobs and work in the kitchen of a Berni Inn. People naturally want to be at the top of their profession.
PALACEWU
28-09-2007, 10:40 AM
Beattie to shef U is a good example, he's definately good enough for the prem.
kolinkins
28-09-2007, 11:45 AM
No he isnt, not anymore.
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