View Full Version : Staunton sacked from Ireland Job
Chris K
23-10-2007, 10:46 PM
Just on SSN...
JohnA
23-10-2007, 10:52 PM
However, the Press Conference was due to start at 22.00, so highly un-official yet (according to Newstalk- the Irish news radio station, who verify stories unlike Sky - which gets more breaking News but also fires first before the facts are established).
Hopefully the boys in Merrion Sq will kick Delaney out.
molesey
23-10-2007, 11:00 PM
Ray Houghton.Talks a good job on tlk sp.Gotta be new boss
JohnA
23-10-2007, 11:13 PM
Originally posted by molesey
Ray Houghton.Talks a good job on tlk sp.Gotta be new boss
He has lucrative media contracts with Sky & RTÉ - he'd be a mug to give them up.
Remember him at Palace (as assistant to Smiff)?
The assembled hacks are still out at Santry (up the Motorway towards Belfast, near the Airport) awaiting the press conference.
They aren't happy. Hopefully even if Delaney hasn't gone they'll take it out on him as they have been mucked around something appallingly.
RDSdaEAGLE
23-10-2007, 11:19 PM
Originally posted by molesey
Ray Houghton.Talks a good job on tlk sp.Gotta be new boss
A bullying prick from what I gather, and lets be fair, a fair few crap managers can talk a good game, doesn't mean that they know how to do the business.
JohnA
23-10-2007, 11:23 PM
Originally posted by RDSdaEAGLE
A bullying prick from what I gather, and lets be fair, a fair few crap managers can talk a good game, doesn't mean that they know how to do the business.
He is to me a hero.
However, I was alluding to his man management skills in my post above.
I think he may make a good manager. He may make a bad manager.
What is clear is that he was not suited to working as coach under that enthusiastic swimmer Anal Smiff.
GodstoneEagle
24-10-2007, 02:18 AM
who do we reckon then?
firesign
24-10-2007, 07:50 AM
It was a poor appointment in the first place.
SE5eagle
24-10-2007, 08:02 AM
Originally posted by GodstoneEagle
who do we reckon then?
There's talk of Brady in Ireland.
O'Leary is another name in the hat.
SE5eagle
24-10-2007, 08:07 AM
Originally posted by JohnA
He is to me a hero...
Me too, which is why I don't want him anywhere near the job, I don't want to have his legendary status sullied, a stadium booing Stan is enough, but Razor? :eek:
Jim Bhoy
24-10-2007, 09:39 AM
Came home from the match last night in a bad mood, which was made even worse when I heard Rangers had drawn with Barcelona. Hearing that Stan had got sacked instantly changed my mood.
I want Steve Coppell to be offered the Ireland job. He is on a year to year contract at Reading (I think), and we don't need him to start working for us until this season is over . He has expressed an interest in managing an International team, and I think he is the best man for the job.
I cannot believe Souness is second favourite for the job, and I would hate to see him get it. It would be worse than Alan Mullery managing Palace. I don't think we should appoint an Irish manager unless Martin O'Neill or Roy Keane are interested, which they won't be because they wouldn't work for the muppets within the FAI.
Selhurst Celtic
24-10-2007, 10:33 AM
Mark Kinsella sounds like a likely name to be thrown in by the fools that run Irish football. Current reserve team manager at Charlton and crucially he once held the same post at Walsall.
He would be cheap, a yes man and could be billed as hungry young manager looking to cut his teeth in the managerial game.
;)
Souness? You're not serious Jim? That would be a ludicrous decision.
Steve Bruce? Unsettled at Birmingham and there's talk of his son declaring himself for the Republic isn't there or did I imagine that?
I reckon it will be a straight shoot out between O'Leary and Brady (doesn't Brady work with Arsenal's youngsters or something?)
I don't want either to be honest. Ideally I'd have Martin O'Neill. A straight talking Irishman that would inspire a team that doesn't really have any world class players. I can't see him leaving Villa though. Which is a shame.
Oh and for Delaney to go as well. His weakness resulted in Staunton's previously good reputation with his countrymen become sullied.
Good luck for the future Stan. Great player (bit of a dive over Pemberton at Villa Park in 1990 though, hey?) and that goal against Tranmere at Selhurst will be recalled fondly. Poor manager though.
Clapham Rover
24-10-2007, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by Selhurst Celtic
and that goal against Tranmere at Selhurst will be recalled fondly. Poor manager though.
With Staunton and Mullins playing as full backs, both of them pinging 40 and 50 yard crossfield balls to Rubens and Black on the wings, there were about 3 weeks when Palace like the most stylish I have ever seen them. I was eating humble pie and bowing down to Smiffy. Shame it all turned out to be a monkeys-and-typewriters scenario.
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JohnA
24-10-2007, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by Jim Bhoy
I want Steve Coppell to be offered the Ireland job. He is on a year to year contract at Reading (I think), and we don't need him to start working for us until this season is over . He has expressed an interest in managing an International team, and I think he is the best man for the job.
I cannot believe Souness is second favourite for the job, and I would hate to see him get it. It would be worse than Alan Mullery managing Palace. I don't think we should appoint an Irish manager unless Martin O'Neill or Roy Keane are interested, which they won't be because they wouldn't work for the muppets within the FAI.
That's what I thought too. Only not in such detail about his contract.
I heard Delaney as on RTÉ this morning. Telling the plain people of Ireland that he is a proven administrator. To cynical me, the timings (the press conference was at 1 AM) suggests Stan used m'learned friends to good effect & Delaney had a rough ride. I may find out more at the weekend when I'll be not too far from FAI HQ & may talk to a few connected with the "garrison game".
Souness is a summariser on the Premiership on RTÉ - the live game they show every Saturday & was a main summariser on the World Cup coverage last year. He has good media contacts so of course he is oft times mentioned. Also his on screen persona was positive.
He'd be mad to hand over this sinecure - weekends in leafy South Dublin, a nice contract and positive publicity.
Oh & SC - Bruce Og has declared for Ireland - Steve Bruce's in laws are from the Ould Sod.
JohnA
24-10-2007, 11:33 AM
This is both sad & amusing.
I particularly liked the comments of a decent man - Brian Kerr:
http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/breaking/2007/1024/breaking1.htm
Jim Bhoy
24-10-2007, 01:34 PM
Souness is 7-1 or 8-1 at the bookies. Don't rule him out, remember the FAI are making this decision and it's not as ridiculous as appointing Walsall's assistant reserve team manager. The FAI have given the ok to Umbro for Ireland to wear an orange away kit before, so I wouldn't be surprised at anything they do.
Obviously I hope the Beast doesn't get the job. Hopefully he'll end up at Millwall.
Stan is still a hero for me, it's not his fault he was given a job he's not cut out for. Anyone who has 102 caps and has played in 3 World Cup finals for Ireland, and played for Palace is ok with me.
SC - I'll see you in Penge for the Celtic game if you're around tonight.
kolinkins
24-10-2007, 09:45 PM
Troussier - who has the added quality of being a "brother" of mine....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/7060450.stm
JohnA
24-10-2007, 10:15 PM
Originally posted by kolinkins
Troussier - who has the added quality of being a "brother" of mine....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/7060450.stm
That is who they wanted to mentor Stan before - only he would have led the Euro campaign.
Does he pray toward Mecca?
kolinkins
24-10-2007, 11:11 PM
That's what the article says!
JohnA
25-10-2007, 08:13 AM
Didn't see it on article, this morning RTÉ said that he had converted on St Patrick's Daty this year.
New LP
25-10-2007, 10:01 AM
Why don't they take McCarthy back? He did a good job there last time?
big bad John
26-10-2007, 01:31 AM
Originally posted by Selhurst Celtic
Steve Bruce? Unsettled at Birmingham and there's talk of his son declaring himself for the Republic isn't there or did I imagine that?
Pretty sure his son Alex has already been capped for Ireland on the USA tour in the summer. With Hughton following Jol out the door the two of them could end up taking the job.
JohnA
26-10-2007, 09:22 AM
Originally posted by big bad John
Pretty sure his son Alex has already been capped for Ireland on the USA tour in the summer. With Hughton following Jol out the door the two of them could end up taking the job.
Watching Hughton at the Spurs game last night I was thinking about him somehow fitting into the Ireland set up.
Selhurst Celtic
26-10-2007, 04:33 PM
Does anyone recall when Staunton was given the job that there was a smug, flash professional club rapist making noises in the press about how the role would interest him?
Well start saying your novenas lads. Rumours that he doesn’t like being number 2 at engerland are beginning to surface and he may well make a play for this job. :(
Oh and BBJ, around St Patrick’s Day you mentioned a king of the gypsy fight between a Joyce and a McDonagh, I think it was, in the Manchester region. This finally happened a couple of months ago and was declared a draw. Joyce (nicknamed Shrek) is fecking huge but got knocked a couple of times by his smaller opponent. A draw was eventually declared but now both clans are trying to claim victory and it’s looking like a rematch is on the cards.
Anyway, back on thread. Please God not Verry Tenables.
Teamofthe00's
28-10-2007, 01:16 PM
Peter Taylor and Terry Venables said today they are extremely intrested :eek: but Graham Souness and Dave O'Leary are favourites
I hope Souness gets the job.
JohnA
28-10-2007, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by Teamofthe00's
Peter Taylor and Terry Venables said today they are extremely intrested :eek: but Graham Souness and Dave O'Leary are favourites
Dave O'Leary & Liam Brady are the ones being boosted in the Irish media.
Souness & Very Terribles aren't mentioned.
SE5eagle
29-10-2007, 07:13 AM
Originally posted by Teamofthe00's
Peter Taylor and Terry Venables said today they are extremely intrested :eek: but Graham Souness and Dave O'Leary are favourites
eep!
I'm going to my special place to have a little cry.
20ab
Originally posted by ET1
I hope Souness gets the job.
Oddly, so do I.
Jim Bhoy
29-10-2007, 01:31 PM
We need to bear in mind that the FAI will be making the decision on who the next Ireland manager is. My money is on Father Dougal with Father Jack taking over the Bobby Robson role.
The FAI - A brief history.
1965 - Ireland was in a play-off against Spain to qualify for the 1965 World Cup. The FAI agreed to play the game in Paris, where there would be more Spanish fans, if the FAI could have the Spanish share of the gate money. The Spanish agreed, and won the game.
1970s - The FAI regularly organised friendlies in Poland, where officials enjoyed the 'night life' (yes, that means pr**titutes), and once did not even stay in the same city as the match. The players travelled to one such game in the luggage carriage of a train, while the officials relaxed on seats.
1980 - After Johnny Giles quit, Eoin Hand beat Paddy Mulligan to the Ireland manager's job by one swing vote. Afterwards, one FAI board member said that he had voted for Hand because he thought Mulligan was the person who had thrown a bun at him on an away trip.
1986 - Jack Charlton became Ireland manager by accident, after the FAI messed up a vote intended to give the job to Bob Paisley. At first Charlton got only three votes out of eighteen, compared to nine for Paisley. The FAI then couldn't contact Charlton to tell him that he had got the job.
1986 - When a friend congratulated Charlton on his new job, he replied 'What job?' On being told he was Ireland manager, he replied 'Oh, I'd forgotten about that.' When Charlton sent his first squad list to the FAI, he found that an FAI official was adding players that he liked onto the list.
1994 - The FAI bought £296,000 of World Cup tickets, and gave most to a tout with the confidence-inspiring nickname of 'George the Greek', who unsurprisingly did a runner. The FAI ended up with a 'trading shortfall' of over £200,000, for which they obtained just 314 extra tickets for one Ireland match.
1996 - Two referees won a court case against the FAI after being downgraded for failing a new test. The judge called the FAI 'an autocracy which was incapable of abiding by its own rules'. The FAI quickly reacted by writing to 142 other referees, banning them all from refereeing for not taking the same test - the exact opposite of the court judgment.
1999 - The FAI announced a plan to spend £65m on a new stadium, but forgot to include the £16m cost of the site, then spent years debating which of two non-existent stadiums they would use. During the optimistic FAI bid to host Euro 2008, the UEFA panel was photographed examining an empty field.
2002 - The FAI prepared for the World Cup by forgetting to bring proper footballs to an island that had no proper football pitch, causing a minor civil war back home. On returning, the FAI ordered an independent investigation into itself, and pretty much ignored the results.
2002 - The FAI tried to sell TV rights for Ireland games to the subscription channel Sky. When the Government told them that EU law protects important cultural events for terrestrial TV viewers to watch free, the FAI countered that Irish football is not culturally important.
2005 - The FAI fired Brian Kerr, the only Irish manager to have won European trophies, and vowed to replace him with a World-class manager. This turned out to be Stephen Staunton, the part-time unofficial coach of the defenders at a poor English third division team.
2007 - The FAI has just fined two League of Ireland clubs EUR500 each because their fans were throwing paper. This comes after they introduced a revised promotion system for last season, which infuriated a Dundalk fan so much that he occupied their offices and doused himself with petrol.
SE5eagle
02-11-2007, 07:01 AM
Great potted history, Jim Bhoy, didn't know about the stuff from the sixties / seventies.
JohnA
02-11-2007, 03:29 PM
There is a very good book published in 95 - the Team that Jack built.
Some if not all, if not even more tales of woe & ineptitude are in it.
Gumball
02-11-2007, 03:42 PM
Talking about Staunton does anybody remember a cracking goal he scored for us a few years ago - as far as I remember it was a scorcher from about 40 yards out on the left, still rising as it hit the net. Who was it against?
9Freedman9
02-11-2007, 03:46 PM
Tranmere.
3-2 I think.
9Freedman9
02-11-2007, 03:47 PM
Staunton, from the half way line, Staunton. :lux:
JohnA
19-11-2007, 09:10 PM
Johnny Giles (at his own volition) was over talking to Paul Jewell - to at least to keep an open mind on the Irish job. Giles was accused of a conflict of intertest as he is a summariser & he can't be objective about a man he may help appoint.
Supposedly Houlier & Very Terribles are also strong candidates.
Also Steve Coppell has been mentioned in some reports.
El Aguila
19-11-2007, 09:18 PM
Brady would be cool.
PalaceFan in Alabama
19-11-2007, 09:19 PM
I understand that a certain TV commentator (EPSN/FOX Soccer) has stated that we do not need a bleeding foreigner :lux:
JohnA
21-11-2007, 09:30 PM
Bruce's move to Wigan has an unforseen delay.
I wonder if its an approach about the Ireland job?
kolinkins
23-11-2007, 02:43 PM
Tee hee, looks like TV is hot fave to land the gig!
New LP
23-11-2007, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by kolinkins
Tee hee, looks like TV is hot fave to land the gig!
Well he got a £1 million pay off today from the FA so it's hardly suprising that there's some other mug still willing to hand him their money.
CPFC Guy
23-11-2007, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by JohnA
Johnny Giles (at his own volition) was over talking to Paul Jewell - to at least to keep an open mind on the Irish job. Giles was accused of a conflict of intertest as he is a summariser & he can't be objective about a man he may help appoint.
Supposedly Houlier & Very Terribles are also strong candidates.
Also Steve Coppell has been mentioned in some reports.
Jewell's stated that he's not interested in the Ireland job and that he wants to go back into club football.
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JohnA
25-11-2007, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by kolinkins
Tee hee, looks like TV is hot fave to land the gig!
You little scamp. I'll cuff your ear next time I see you.
All of the Irish newspapers have him as favourite, one the Sunday Indo make out he's got the gig. Mind you the Sindo is like the Mail.
Oh dear God.
Delaney is an even bigger fool than I imagined.
Last year I met Basil Scarsella - a lovely man. He appointed Venables to the Australian FA. I told him that I am a Palace supporter. He gave a knowing laugh. Reading between the lines the Aussie FA gave Venables very tight terms of reference & Basil & his pals held the purse strings.
Really Delaney should be sacked & banned from holding any job in football, ever.
Duffle Coat
25-11-2007, 04:35 PM
What has Venables got that attracts teams to want him ? He is not a manager, he is something else and seems to turn everything he touches to stone. If Ireland pick him as their manager, they will end up being in the group of seeds with Luxembourg, Liechenstein et al if they are lucky !
Away Day Eagle
27-11-2007, 11:52 AM
Anyone else hear the Venables/Townsend partnership being touted around by the medhja ?
ReadingPalace
27-11-2007, 12:05 PM
TV and 'Truckwit' Townsend? I would be very worried if I was Irish. Oh dear.
Duffle Coat
01-12-2007, 05:24 PM
Only the FAI would be touting for el tel. :rolleyes:
JohnA
05-12-2007, 03:49 PM
The FAI has now appointed Don Howe (a man who put English football back into the Dark Ages), Don Givens & after he volunteered Ray Houghton to select & interview the candidates.
Verry Terribles has a more critical press in certain parts of the Irish media (not the Oirish version of the British tabs, rather the Irish Times - he has British tab hacks in his back pocket)
JohnA
13-01-2008, 05:52 PM
The boys have been busy today above in Merrion Sq - this announcement is on their website
http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2765
In short denying any press speculation that an announcement is iminent.
Wish they would get a move on
cranesparkeagle
13-01-2008, 08:00 PM
Be interesting to see O'Leary without money to spend
El Aguila
13-01-2008, 08:15 PM
Venables might have been the man for the job, ten years ago. If he does get it I would hope to see Liam Brady taking over the Italian national team.
ammiller
14-01-2008, 09:18 AM
Originally posted by Dave
Wish they would get a move on
Dave,
The waiting is over.
They have given it to Worthington.
And can someone tell JohnA that Capello has been given the job of managing his country's team...
kolinkins
15-01-2008, 01:30 PM
Looks like Lawrie Sanchez is a new runner!
JohnA
15-01-2008, 06:27 PM
Originally posted by kolinkins
Looks like Lawrie Sanchez is a new runner!
Yep.
Also Houllier & Deschamps are apparently runners.
Don Givens was just interviewd on RTÉ he says no appointment yet. They (Givens, Houghton & Howe) are very happy about the high standard they have seen & are planning to see.
palace & proud
16-01-2008, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by kolinkins
Looks like Lawrie Sanchez is a new runner!
Terry Venables is favourite to land the job (Paddy Power)
Terry Venables - 11/8
David O'Leary -5/1
Giles - 5/1
Didier Deschamps - 13/2
Gerard Houllier - 8/1
Steve Coppell - 16/1
Lawrie Sanchez - 20/1
Away Day Eagle
16-01-2008, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by palace & proud
Terry Venables is favourite to land the job (Paddy Power)
Terry Venables - 11/8
1
FFS
:hmph: :hmph: :hmph:
Justin
17-01-2008, 04:45 PM
I have just backed Houllier - usually a pretty reliable source. We'll see.
Away Day Eagle
17-01-2008, 04:47 PM
What odds Justin ?
Justin
17-01-2008, 04:52 PM
Only 3s sadly.
Could be bollox but it is usually pretty reliable.
limited_edition
17-01-2008, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by palace & proud
Terry Venables is favourite to land the job (Paddy Power)
Terry Venables - 11/8
David O'Leary -5/1
David Oh-so-Dreary has ruled himself out of the position. He says he wants to get back into club football.
I've heard the footie TV pundits in Ireland pull no punches and tell it like it is. If El Tel gets the job, at least they won't be queuing around the block to give him character references. His teflon (nothing sticks to him) managerial persona will be destroyed for once and for all if he fails there.
Justin
17-01-2008, 06:37 PM
Just layed Houllier for some of the bet on Betfair as he now 9-4 on.
JohnA
17-01-2008, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by Justin
Just layed Houllier for some of the bet on Betfair as he now 9-4 on.
However, the interview process is still on going & Houllier hasn't been interviewed yet. He is due in Ireland in the next week & his yes odds have shortened dramatically.
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Springer
23-01-2008, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by JohnA
Yep.
Also Houllier & Deschamps are apparently runners.
I fail to see how the likes of Houllier and Deschamps would be remotely interested in the Ireland job. It's hardly high profile, the wages can't be that good and the team are pretty ordinary.
JohnA
03-02-2008, 06:43 PM
Givens met with the FAI board of (mis) Management this evening.
A recommendation has been made.
Yesterday's Irish Times had it as Trappetoni with Liam Brady as his assistant.
colin_cork
03-02-2008, 10:19 PM
Originally posted by JohnA
Givens met with the FAI board of (mis) Management this evening.
A recommendation has been made.
Yesterday's Irish Times had it as Trappetoni with Liam Brady as his assistant.
bookies are making a fortune...14 favourites so far
bern5161
04-02-2008, 08:35 PM
Billy Davis nailed on for the job. Sky Sports
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