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Alex_S
06-11-2007, 08:12 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/7081641.stm

Tottenham and Manchester United have urged the Premier League to allow teams to have more substitutes on the bench.
United boss Sir Alex Ferguson and Spurs coach Juande Ramos say there should be seven substitutes to choose from rather than present limit of five.

"Every club has players of squads of more than 16 players," said Ferguson.

"I didn't choose Darren Fletcher for the Arsenal game and that was a kick in a teeth for him and it didn't sit easy with me," added Ferguson.

Manchester City boss Sven-Goran Eriksson also favours a change in the Premier League's rules on substitutes, with managers allowed to bring on three players from a choice of five.

The Premier League said it was willing to look at the issue, but any change was unlikely to come into effect before the start of next season.

"If member clubs want to raise it then we'll look and discuss it as a league," a Premier League spokesman told BBC Sport.

"We've resisted the idea before because we feel it favours the bigger clubs who have bigger squads.

"If it was raised it would go to (our) summer conference, and if the clubs agreed it could be in place for the start of the 2008/2009 season."

Premier League voting rules require 14 out of the 20 clubs to back rule changes.

In Champions League matches as well as international fixtures coaches and managers are allowed to name seven subs and bring on three of them.

Another potential rule change to suit the big boys in the Premier. So what if Fergie couldn't include Darren Fletcher in his squad for Arsenal - if your squads too big tough luck! This will just swing the balance in favour of the teams with bigger squads so they have more quality to choose from the bench.

What about the smaller teams with smaller squads, they'll just have to fill the bench with youth players to make up the numbers. Hardly going to benefit them at all.

Absolution
06-11-2007, 08:23 PM
How European..

cranesparkeagle
06-11-2007, 09:33 PM
awful idea.It will be like international friendlies. this is clubs with huge squads trying to have their cake and eat it.

Hedgehog
06-11-2007, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by Alex_S
"I didn't choose Darren Fletcher for the Arsenal game and that was a kick in a teeth for him and it didn't sit easy with me," added Ferguson.
Not a very compelling argument is it?

ET1
06-11-2007, 09:40 PM
Just something else to suit the big clubs

prizesucker
06-11-2007, 09:43 PM
Why not go the other way and reduce the number subs to just two again. Then let's see what happens. :o :p

Bobby Woodruff
06-11-2007, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by prizesucker
Why not go the other way and reduce the number subs to just two again. Then let's see what happens. :o :p

Even better go back to one, or even none. Or only allow subs in the case of injury.

Selhurst Celtic
06-11-2007, 09:56 PM
What about 'blood replacements' like in rugby or gaelic football?

When Hudson went off against Watford for his head wound we were a man down for a while.

Shipp Ahoy!
06-11-2007, 10:11 PM
Will never happen.

Anyone remember the good old days when you only had 3 subs on the bench?

Hedgehog
07-11-2007, 01:39 AM
Originally posted by Shipp Ahoy!
Will never happen.

Anyone remember the good old days when you only had 3 subs on the bench?
I remember the good old days when they didn't have any! :eek:

bunghole
07-11-2007, 01:51 AM
What a load of rubbish. :clown:

Jamio
07-11-2007, 11:28 AM
I think it’s a good idea in terms of developing young players. You can risk having a couple of youngsters on the bench who wouldn’t normally be considered. Then if your team is 2-0 up with 10 mins to go, you can let them have a run out with no pressure.

magician
07-11-2007, 11:58 AM
it will allow clubs to get away with so many home grown players in squad rule , stick a couple 'yoot' on the subs bench.

sharpeshooter
07-11-2007, 12:07 PM
if they are going to have 7 on the bench, why not make it 11, then thay can field their second team, :rolleyes:
:D

zonin2000
07-11-2007, 12:14 PM
Massive overreaction on here.

Sure, they could choose two extra players (but even at our level we often leave 'first team' players out of the matchday XVI). They can still only bring 3 subs on.

Hedgehog
07-11-2007, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by zonin2000
Sure, they could choose two extra players (but even at our level we often leave 'first team' players out of the matchday XVI). They can still only bring 3 subs on.
Give a couple of years and that will change.

Soon be like ice hockey!

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Ryan_the_eagle
07-11-2007, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by Jamio
I think it’s a good idea in terms of developing young players. You can risk having a couple of youngsters on the bench who wouldn’t normally be considered. Then if your team is 2-0 up with 10 mins to go, you can let them have a run out with no pressure.

Yer nice idea there. If at least two playeres are under 21 i think it could work very well. Maybe have them English aswell.

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