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foxinthebox
10-11-2007, 08:10 AM
probably several threads on this already. just seen the squad for the game against croatia. it makes no sense really.

there are 3 specialist left backs in there in cole, shorey and bridge plus barry, neville an lescott who are as adept as shorey there in any case. why has he wasted so many squad places here. surely have cole and then he can be covered by barry, neville or lescott, at most put bridge in but not shorey as well. might as well chuck baines in there as well.

qualification look unlikely but we still need to win the game ourselves, and we look very lightweight upfront. smith plays centre mid and aint a goalscorer, defoe isnt playing regularly and owen could break down at any minute. i knw at the moment there isnt a great number of striking options but surely bent would be required more than shorey or smith come to that.

i came to the conclusion along time ao that mclaren doesn't have what it takes to manage england but this has reinforced my feeling.

the sooner this inept 'manager' is relieved of his duties the better

he says he wont quit tho and who can blame him, with millions due in comp if they get rid off him.
Godstone Eagle
10-11-2007, 09:30 AM
Only 2 games to go, and he'll be gone..and good riddens. Barwick should go with him too!
Eye-dee
10-11-2007, 10:41 AM
Originally posted by Godstone Eagle
Only 2 games to go, and he'll be gone..and good riddens. Barwick should go with him too!

......and Venables?
Shipp Ahoy!
10-11-2007, 10:46 AM
Why do I have the most horrible suspision the FA will make Vetry Terrables the next manager? :(
philsick
10-11-2007, 10:56 AM
I listened to an interview with him yesterday.I cant put my finger on it,but he sounds like a man that doesn't even believe what he's saying himself.
Godstone Eagle
10-11-2007, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by Eye-dee
......and Venables?

yep, him as well:p
Alex_S
10-11-2007, 06:12 PM
No
Farnboro' Eagle
10-11-2007, 06:25 PM
and why the hell is Beckham back in the squad (and will no doubt play)? What was the point of McClaren buggering off to LA to watch LA Galaxy in some pointless exhibition match? It's time to move on from McLaren, Beckham, Venables.....

also, I hope everyone who banged on that the coach must be English are happy with what they got. Hopefully this joker will end this bollocks debate, and the best person available for the job is appointed.
Vince Hilaire's Afro
10-11-2007, 07:34 PM
The football side of things is pretty bad, but it's that tuft of hair at the front of his head that is the true disgrace.
limited_edition
10-11-2007, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by Vince Hilaire's Afro
The football side of things is pretty bad, but it's that tuft of hair at the front of his head that is the true disgrace. They don't call him Steve the Weave for nothing.
Palaceboy222
10-11-2007, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by Eye-dee
......and V*nables?
He needs to go before I can even begin to hope england win, the mans a ••••
richdeniro
10-11-2007, 08:43 PM
He should have gone in the hours after Russia beat us last month.
alaneagle
10-11-2007, 09:13 PM
to be fair to mclaren i wouldnt say there are a huge number of quality english players outside that squad,
that said the way he has used what we have has been poor
Vince Hilaire's Afro
10-11-2007, 09:34 PM
I'm not really sure on the details, but if the FA were to sack McLaren, wouldn't it cost a fortune? They're still paying off Sven (from what I understand) and were stupid enough to give tufty a 4 year deal. Even with the dosh they cream off football, I think if this is true, we are stuck with the man for some time yet, as he's never going to resign.
Super-Ste-Cious
10-11-2007, 09:42 PM
Originally posted by Vince Hilaire's Afro
They're still paying off Sven (from what I understand)

They're not AFAIW. His last payment was earlier this summmer sometime, hence why he then got off his arse to find a job!

FYI, expect McClown to be sacked before the Croatia game, should Russia win on Saturday. The draw for World Cup 2010 qualifying is a few days after, and the FA do not want him going as our representitive when they have the intention of sacking him. Expect Vegatables or someone like Brooking to go instead.
richdeniro
10-11-2007, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by Super-Ste-Cious
They're not AFAIW. His last payment was earlier this summmer sometime, hence why he then got off his arse to find a job!

FYI, expect McClown to be sacked before the Croatia game, should Russia win on Saturday. The draw for World Cup 2010 qualifying is a few days after, and the FA do not want him going as our representitive when they have the intention of sacking him. Expect Vegatables or someone like Brooking to go instead.

Don't even know why we're waiting til then?

Especially when you have the likes of Mourinho and Capello out of work.
1c86
Super-Ste-Cious
10-11-2007, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by richdeniro
Don't even know why we're waiting til then?

Especially when you have the likes of Mourinho and Capello out of work.

Well yeah I agree. I really want us to qualify, seriously the thought of a major Championship without us makes me cringe. But we need rid - and quick.
foxinthebox
10-11-2007, 11:21 PM
mourinho has to be the choice. i know his last couple seasons at chelsea the football wernt great but he still got results so i think that would be a start. capello is also a great manager but nt sure if he speakes english and mourinho knows all about the emglish players fans and probably most importantly the press. he can handle them.

i want mourinho, i want mourinho (to the tune of we want our money back, something i find myself thinking most saturdays watching our dross)
Super-Ste-Cious
10-11-2007, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by foxinthebox
mourinho has to be the choice. i know his last couple seasons at chelsea the football wernt great

Well, what the hell do you constitute great?

EDIT: Just saw you meant the football. Meh Ill take winning ahead of total football.
foxinthebox
10-11-2007, 11:30 PM
im on about in comparison to his two seasons previous when they were playing with attacking guile week in week out, when robben was running at players and they were petrified, and the passing in the last third was unbelievable. the last two season they still played very very well but it hasnt bee in the same class as before, maybe something to do with the change of tactics. there was a difference or did that evade you?

its generally accepted they didnt play the football they did when they won the league the first time by the time mourinho was pushed
Super-Ste-Cious
10-11-2007, 11:45 PM
Originally posted by foxinthebox
im on about in comparison to his two seasons previous when they were playing with attacking guile week in week out, when robben was running at players and they were petrified, and the passing in the last third was unbelievable. the last two season they still played very very well but it hasnt bee in the same class as before, maybe something to do with the change of tactics. there was a difference or did that evade you?

its generally accepted they didnt play the football they did when they won the league the first time by the time mourinho was pushed

1. I had already said I misread the post.

2. Frankly I don't think Chelsea were ever played that unbelievable football, and Robben only ever showed flashes of brilliance. Dont get me wrong Chelsea did deserve to win both titles, and I'm not saying they won ugly - but more like effectively. And Yes, the second title probably wasnt as good the first. Your description is more apt for Arsenal or Manure TBH.
foxinthebox
10-11-2007, 11:49 PM
sorry had already started typing by the time you edited it. i do disagree and think they were a joy to watch that first year. beating teams 4-0 here and there and when robben came back from injury the first year he consistently terrorised defences until the end of the season. he was magnificent. i think my description is quite fitting of chelsea under mourinho.
Super-Ste-Cious
10-11-2007, 11:59 PM
Originally posted by foxinthebox
sorry had already started typing by the time you edited it. i do disagree and think they were a joy to watch that first year. beating teams 4-0 here and there and when robben came back from injury the first year he consistently terrorised defences until the end of the season. he was magnificent. i think my description is quite fitting of chelsea under mourinho.

My memory of Chelsea winning their titles, often consisted of lumping it up to Drogba then they would show a bit of skills and fancy stuff before scoring. Everyone would rave, but it often started from a long ball. Of course, it wasnt always the case and yes Robben did help them to the title and at times did play well. TBH I don't remember him playing all that consistently in the first place - always seemed injured.

But ultimately I agree with you re: Mourinho
foxinthebox
11-11-2007, 12:07 AM
i dont agree it started from long ball at all. checked and robben won player of the month for november, his first month in the prem, and was shortlisted for young player of the season, missing out to rooney. i dnt believe the first season drogba was used as much as he is now, think crespo even got 16 goals that year and damien duff and joe cole enjoyed running at teams. they broke away and the sheer pace goign forward saw them score alot of goals.

at least we agree on mourinho
Super-Ste-Cious
11-11-2007, 12:10 AM
Originally posted by foxinthebox
i dont agree it started from long ball at all. checked and robben won player of the month for november, his first month in the prem, and was shortlisted for young player of the season, missing out to rooney. i dnt believe the first season drogba was used as much as he is now, think crespo even got 16 goals that year and damien duff and joe cole enjoyed running at teams. they broke away and the sheer pace goign forward saw them score alot of goals.

at least we agree on mourinho

Perhaps Im concentrating more on the second title. It definately happened then - I remember moaning continously. Bu then again I do hate Chelsea.
richdeniro
11-11-2007, 12:11 AM
I don't know if Mourinho would want the job - I know he is available but surely he must also have an eye on the Milan job. Can't see Ancelotti lasting too much longer there.

However I'd take Ancelotti for England manager too.
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