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nicknackpalace
15-04-2008, 08:42 PM
With Wolves losing, we're in the favourable position of having our destiny in our own hands (unless Wolves can overcome a significantly worse goal difference)

Will watford play for a draw on Saturday? It will suit them better than us!!

UEAgle
15-04-2008, 08:43 PM
C'mon boys, one last push...

David Amsalem
15-04-2008, 08:44 PM
No, it won't.

They are 3 points off second. They'll still be looking to achieve automatic promotion.

silver
15-04-2008, 08:45 PM
yessssssssssss

gadford4th
15-04-2008, 08:46 PM
We have to beat Watford, we just have to. Ipswich and Wolves could do each other some considerable damage this weekend.

nicknackpalace
15-04-2008, 08:47 PM
Originally posted by David Amsalem
No, it won't.

They are 3 points off second. They'll still be looking to achieve automatic promotion.

True enough!

pauldrulez
15-04-2008, 08:52 PM
Which means the counter attack of Moses and Sinclair could allow us to win.

red&blue_moomin
15-04-2008, 08:53 PM
Yeah we have to win pretty much every game thanks to febuary. Crying shame we managed to throw a real chance at auto. Its a credit to the team we've clawed our way into 6th but still with loads to do.

cpfcmazz
15-04-2008, 08:54 PM
Amazing turnaround from October, pleaaaaaaaaaaaase dont blow it

Skiddo
15-04-2008, 08:54 PM
Wolves - Ipswich game could be very interesting.

Wolves are hopeless at home and Ipswich are hopeless away.

pennycreed
15-04-2008, 08:55 PM
talk about stressful!

gadford4th
15-04-2008, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by pennycreed
talk about stressful!


Wouldn't have it any other way.

bigboy
15-04-2008, 08:57 PM
stressfull times folks:lux:

nicknackpalace
15-04-2008, 08:57 PM
Watford - 6 points from last 6 games - it's definitely winnable

Paulie Walnuts
15-04-2008, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by nicknackpalace
Watford - 6 points from last 6 games - it's definitely winnable

For sure. Our fans will play a part, lets make a bloody racket behind that goal and spur the boys on!

gadford4th
15-04-2008, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by nicknackpalace
Watford - 6 points from last 6 games - it's definitely winnable

We have nothing to fear. Their own fans don't like watching them play. If we score an early goal, silence Vicarage Road, it's ours.

Shipp Ahoy!
15-04-2008, 09:00 PM
At least it is now back in our hands :lux:

If we win our next 3 games we will finish in the play offs, it is a massive challenge for Wolves to catch up on goal difference if we win 1-0 every game, with 4 games left, we would have a +13 GD whereas they currently have a +1 they would have to score 12 goals in 4 games, meaning an average of 3-0 a game. Highly unlikely!

Son of Ron
15-04-2008, 09:06 PM
equally unlikely is that anyone in this division will win 3 games in a row !!

voyeur
15-04-2008, 09:14 PM
We could lose on saturday and stay 6th. Hulls' turn to have a wobble the following week.

CPFC87
15-04-2008, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by Skiddo
Wolves - Ipswich game could be very interesting.

Wolves are hopeless at home and Ipswich are hopeless away.

Which means someone will come out the victor. :cool:

Wright+Bright
15-04-2008, 09:14 PM
I hate this feeling. You know we never do things the easy way!!

CPFC87
15-04-2008, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by Son of Ron
equally unlikely is that anyone in this division will win 3 games in a row !!

So true.

CPFC87
15-04-2008, 09:17 PM
Maybe we can change this on Saturday...

Dorking .Eagle
15-04-2008, 09:17 PM
Lovely username

tasty_snacks
15-04-2008, 09:31 PM
i really think 70 points will be enough this year. i think that if we win on saturday, we are strong favourites. but then, when has that ever suited us?!?!? :vader:

my beeb predictor has us in 6th on 69 pts...

Eddie McGoldrick's tash
15-04-2008, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by CPFC87
Which means someone will come out the victor. :cool:

Moses?

AJ's right boot
15-04-2008, 09:33 PM
Can anyone tell me what our record is at Vicarage Road? Ive got a feeling its not great.....

tasty_snacks
15-04-2008, 09:35 PM
Originally posted by AJ's right boot
Can anyone tell me what our record is at Vicarage Road? Ive got a feeling its not great.....

well, i've only been there three times before, winning 3-0, 5-1 and drawing 0-0. that ain't bad...

Eddie McGoldrick's tash
15-04-2008, 09:37 PM
Interesting that on Saturday 3rd play 4th, 5th play 6th and 7th play 8th

greenlight
15-04-2008, 09:51 PM
We all know, being Palace, it will still be in the balance at quarter to four on 4 May.

Can't we just fast forward to then?:confused:

AJ's right boot
15-04-2008, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by tasty_snacks
well, i've only been there three times before, winning 3-0, 5-1 and drawing 0-0. that ain't bad... Can you please go to the game!!!:D

maestro
15-04-2008, 10:04 PM
Massive Massive game saturday, coem on palace, im fed up losing to watford all the time.

We should believe we can do it, since November weve picked up 16 more points than watford, they were 20 points clear of us!

Dorking .Eagle
15-04-2008, 10:05 PM
Remember the 5-1 win a few years ago especially well - we were absolutely rampant - it was near Brazillian for the last 5-10 minutes!

RDSdaEAGLE
15-04-2008, 10:05 PM
It's about time we repaid Watford with interest. I hope we do it.

Will S
15-04-2008, 10:08 PM
Saturday's fixtures are extraordinary...

Stoke v Bristol City (3rd v 4th)

Watford v Palace (5th v 6th)

Wolves v Ipswich (7th v 8th)

It’s like the play offs have already started….

rbarmy
15-04-2008, 10:09 PM
Hopefully the Wolves Ipswich game will at least knock one of them out of the running - a win for us and a draw there would probably knock them both out!

klimskady
15-04-2008, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by RDSdaEAGLE
It's about time we repaid Watford with interest. I hope we do it.


Oh yes... A wonderful 3-1 will do me nicely.

Will piss my arsehole of a Brother off nicely too. :D

FraserH
15-04-2008, 10:33 PM
doesn't it feel great to be a palace fan. never doing it the easy way but at least its exciting!!!

Dorking .Eagle
15-04-2008, 10:38 PM
Indeed. Founder members of the 'never a dull moment club' !

cpfc4ever
15-04-2008, 10:44 PM
IF we win and the other game is a draw it's not over as I can't see us getting anything at Hull.

And let's be fair, as if it will go our way!! We'll probably get in with 3 points from the last three games as no one else will win knowing the way we usualy finish when it's 'in our own hands'.

The Gerry Queen
15-04-2008, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by cpfc4ever
IF we win and the other game is a draw it's not over as I can't see us getting anything at Hull.

And let's be fair, as if it will go our way!! We'll probably get in with 3 points from the last three games as no one else will win knowing the way we usualy finish when it's 'in our own hands'.

QPR did what you need to do when playing Hull last Saturday.

Despite Hull's amazing form we have the players with exactly the right skills to beat them. In the Autumn Scott Sinclair scored a cracker against Hull at the KC in a 4-0 Carling Cup win for Chelsea. Their defence didn't know what to do to contain him. More of the same from Scott and Victor and the game certainly could be ours.

Away Day Eagle
15-04-2008, 11:01 PM
Originally posted by RDSdaEAGLE
It's about time we repaid Watford with interest. I hope we do it.

Damn right.

:p

Anyone know who the last goal scored was by ?

calne eagle
15-04-2008, 11:22 PM
Originally posted by Eddie McGoldrick's tash
Interesting that on Saturday 3rd play 4th, 5th play 6th and 7th play 8th

Play-offs started early, then....



EDIT: Apols - point already made.

BBD
15-04-2008, 11:34 PM
Originally posted by The Gerry Queen
QPR did what you need to do when playing Hull last Saturday.

Despite Hull's amazing form we have the players with exactly the right skills to beat them. In the Autumn Scott Sinclair scored a cracker against Hull at the KC in a 4-0 Carling Cup win for Chelsea. Their defence didn't know what to do to contain him. More of the same from Scott and Victor and the game certainly could be ours.

Too true Sir!

The reason we nearly took six points away at Ashton Gate & The Britannia this season was by not affording either of them any respect.

It is odd that we're suddenly pinning huge hopes on two players that have played only a handful of games between them, with another hope for the future still to sit his GCSE's.

I've always maintained the "if you're good enough, you're old enough" mantra. Certainly I don't think NW will do anything but to tell them to go out and enjoy their football. With a reasonably good pitch on Saturday, it would be nice to enjoy a bit of joie de vivre football and start to pay back some of the interest owed for the 2nd half humiliation at Selhurst a couple of years back. No one has grabbed the crown that King left at the Vic and you can almost smell the fear in Aidy Bothroyd's press interviews these days.

Let's just "Go For It". Players and supporters alike. :lux: :lux:

Tomo
15-04-2008, 11:43 PM
Wolves now need to win there game in hand and then beat every result we get. If we win on Saturday (and a big one) I wouldn't mind Wolves beating Ipswich only to lose their game in hand.

PeterH
16-04-2008, 04:37 AM
Originally posted by nicknackpalace
Watford - 6 points from last 6 games - it's definitely winnable

Bogey team for us. And Palace usually deliver for the opposition when they are going through a bad patch. I think we will lose this one. I don´t think our players will turn up in the first half and we will be two down before the break. Some fight and commitment to keep the away travellers happy and to cause some pst match argument on here.

On Saturday at 4.50pm it will be some other teams hands to lose. Then we will be looking at Hull to get a point.

That´s the feeling I get.

Walrus
16-04-2008, 07:37 AM
Originally posted by Will S
Saturday's fixtures are extraordinary...

Stoke v Bristol City (3rd v 4th)

Watford v Palace (5th v 6th)

Wolves v Ipswich (7th v 8th)

It’s like the play offs have already started….

That's a proper "Super Saturday". Never mind, all the focus will be on Man U, a meaningless mid-table prem game featuring West Ham or whether Chelsea are going to sack Avram Grant.

GDP
16-04-2008, 07:46 AM
A draw between Wolves and Ipswich, 3 points at Watford and we will really be in the driving seat.

Come on Palace!

We're a complete different side from the shite we were at the home game.

Bungalow
16-04-2008, 07:49 AM
This is where Warnock will earn his crust. Glad he is here for these 3 games.

Harry Holmesdale
16-04-2008, 08:33 AM
Originally posted by Bungalow
This is where Warnock will earn his crust. Glad he is here for these 3 games.


Hmmm, didnt he blow it with Sheff Utd when we all thought they were safe with 3 games left....

The Ferret
16-04-2008, 08:47 AM
No-one seems to mention Cardiff - they have one game in hand which is Wolves - win that and there 2 points behind us with an easier run in.

Beanie
16-04-2008, 08:48 AM
Originally posted by Harry Holmesdale
Hmmm, didnt he blow it with Sheff Utd when we all thought they were safe with 3 games left....
You can't legislate for the sort of run West Ham had, especially winning at Old Trafford. I remember celebrating survival after beating Ipswich at home, only for Oldham to win three in a week and puts us down. Such things happen.

DE - Glad All Over
16-04-2008, 09:05 AM
It's impossible to predict this stuff otherwise we would all be 'Pools millionaires'

Few more twists and turns left yet, my prediction, we need to win last game of the season to get a play-off place.

The crowd will be 51,801
Swindlehurst and Walsh will score.:lux:

Harry Holmesdale
16-04-2008, 09:08 AM
Originally posted by Beanie
You can't legislate for the sort of run West Ham had, especially winning at Old Trafford. I remember celebrating survival after beating Ipswich at home, only for Oldham to win three in a week and puts us down. Such things happen.

If you cant beat Wigan at home on the last day of the season you dont deserve to stay up

hughff
16-04-2008, 09:08 AM
Ferret, stop making sense. You're scaring me.

The only thing that really matters is that the fate of our club lies at the feet of our players. Do us all proud, boys!

AddiscombeEagle
16-04-2008, 09:11 AM
Exciting this isn’t it?

CHERRY TREE BRB
16-04-2008, 09:12 AM
Because of WBA's far superior goal difference, it now means that our title hopes are over, but even the panel on the Soccer Special last night refused to rule us out of an automatic spot. Yes, Hull were mighty impressive last night but have 3 horrible games to finish. Bristol City and Watford cant buy a win, and Stoke are not exactly pulling up any trees either. Come on Palace, 74 points and runners up could be ours:lux: :lux:

working eagle
16-04-2008, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by tasty_snacks
well, i've only been there three times before, winning 3-0, 5-1 and drawing 0-0. that ain't bad...

Please tell me your not going on Saturday given your run of results the only thing you've not seen us do is lose.

Stickyfingers
16-04-2008, 09:20 AM
Originally posted by CHERRY TREE BRB
Come on Palace, 74 points and runners up could be ours:lux: :lux:

What, and miss all the fun of the play-offs;)

E_girl
16-04-2008, 09:55 AM
I both :love: & :grrr: this point in the season - come on boys, you've done it before, you can do it again! :p

AndyStreet
16-04-2008, 09:56 AM
Originally posted by CHERRY TREE BRB
Because of WBA's far superior goal difference, it now means that our title hopes are over, but even the panel on the Soccer Special last night refused to rule us out of an automatic spot. Yes, Hull were mighty impressive last night but have 3 horrible games to finish. Bristol City and Watford cant buy a win, and Stoke are not exactly pulling up any trees either. Come on Palace, 74 points and runners up could be ours:lux: :lux:

Mentalism.

sydnsteve
16-04-2008, 09:58 AM
Originally posted by Harry Holmesdale
Hmmm, didnt he blow it with Sheff Utd when we all thought they were safe with 3 games left....

Bit hard to say he blew it. As a manager you can't legislate for your striker missing an open goal.

DEWG_Stone
16-04-2008, 11:25 AM
Ipswich remaining fixtures
Wolves (A)
Preston (A)
Hull (H)

Charlton remaining fixtures
QPR (A)
Barnsley (A)
Coventry (H)

Wolves remaining fixtures
Ipswich (H)
Cardiff (H)
Coventry (A)
Plymouth (H)

Palace remaining fixtures
Watford (A)
Hull (A)
Burnley (H)

What do we think?

CHERRY TREE BRB
16-04-2008, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by DEWG_Stone
Ipswich remaining fixtures
Wolves (A) DRAW
Preston (A) LOSE
Hull (H) WIN points: 66

Charlton remaining fixtures
QPR (A) LOSE
Barnsley (A) WIN
Coventry (H) LOSE points:64

Wolves remaining fixtures
Ipswich (H) DRAW
Cardiff (H) WIN
Coventry (A) LOSE
Plymouth (H) WIN points: 69

Palace remaining fixtures
Watford (A) WIN
Hull (A) WIN
Burnley (H) WIN points: 74

What do we think?

Selhurst300
16-04-2008, 11:39 AM
Originally posted by sydnsteve
Bit hard to say he blew it. As a manager you can't legislate for your striker missing an open goal.

Unless he's Kuqi.

chav_hater
16-04-2008, 11:41 AM
Ipswich remaining fixtures
Wolves (A) draw
Preston (A) draw
Hull (H) win

Charlton remaining fixtures
QPR (A) draw
Barnsley (A) lose
Coventry (H) draw

Wolves remaining fixtures
Ipswich (H) draw
Cardiff (H) draw
Coventry (A) lose
Plymouth (H) win

Palace remaining fixtures
Watford (A) draw
Hull (A) draw
Burnley (H) win

zonin2000
16-04-2008, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by CHERRY TREE BRB

And your predictions for WBA, Hull, Stoke, Bristol City and Watford?

Dario G
16-04-2008, 11:59 AM
6 points will be enough maybe 5 with the goal difference.

All those teams will take points off eachother.....

adrenalin john
16-04-2008, 12:02 PM
The way I look at it is that we are in the play-offs for a play off place.

The two legged semi is our games at Watford and Hull. First leg is against Watford is the home match the 2nd leg is the more difficult away tie. To get through to the final we need a win and a draw (or two wins)

Then we need to win the final - home against Burnley.

MikeyDread
16-04-2008, 12:21 PM
If we win our games and focus on our performance then the rest of it doesnt matter and tough but we can NOW do it methinks :)

Panzer
16-04-2008, 12:30 PM
This is how I reckon it will stand at KO on the last day, I put us down for a draw at Watford & Hull

West Brom +33 80
Stoke +14 78

Hull +20 74
Watford +12 73
Bristol City –2 71
PALACE +10 67

Plymouth +10 66
Ipswich +8 66
Cardiff +6 66
Wolves +1 66

Any 1 of 5 teams for the last Play off spot!!

we do it with a last gasp winner in the 94th minute... oh what fun!!

A Wooden Fish On Wheels
16-04-2008, 12:37 PM
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck!

I'm really starting to brick it!

CHERRY TREE BRB
16-04-2008, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by zonin2000
And your predictions for WBA, Hull, Stoke, Bristol City and Watford?

WBA

a) Norwich LOSE
h) Southampton DRAW
a) QPR LOSE points: 75

Bristol City

a) Stoke DRAW
a) Sheff Utd LOSE
h) Preston DRAW points: 73

Watford

h) Palace LOSE
h) Scunthorpe WIN
a) blackpool DRAW points: 73

Hull

a) sheff utd LOSE
h) Palace LOSE
a) ipswich LOSE points: 72

Stoke

H) bristol city DRAW
a) colchester LOSE
h) leicester DRAW points: 74



Final Table

Wba 75
Palace 74:lux:
Stoke 74
watford 73
Bris City 73
Hull 72

The Omen
16-04-2008, 01:11 PM
Originally posted by CHERRY TREE BRB


Hull

a) sheff utd LOSE
h) Palace LOSE
a) ipswich LOSE points: 72



Can't see that happening. :)

dave_c00
16-04-2008, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by Panzer
This is how I reckon it will stand at KO on the last day, I put us down for a draw at Watford & Hull

West Brom +33 80
Stoke +14 78

Hull +20 74
Watford +12 73
Bristol City –2 71
PALACE +10 67

Plymouth +10 66
Ipswich +8 66
Cardiff +6 66
Wolves +1 66

Any 1 of 5 teams for the last Play off spot!!

we do it with a last gasp winner in the 94th minute... oh what fun!!

My blood pressure wont take that, I would have to buy a few packs of beta blockers...!

PJJY
16-04-2008, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by CHERRY TREE BRB
WBA

a) Norwich LOSE
h) Southampton DRAW
a) QPR LOSE points: 75

Hull

a) sheff utd LOSE
h) Palace LOSE
a) ipswich LOSE points: 72

Stoke

H) bristol city DRAW
a) colchester LOSE
h) leicester DRAW points: 74

Red and Blue tinted specs on? West Brom losing to Norwich and drawing to Southampton? Stoke losing to already relegated Colchester and drawing at home to Leicester? And sadly I dont think we'll beat Hull. A draw up there would be a great result

BW_Palace
16-04-2008, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by CHERRY TREE BRB
[mental predictions]

There's optimistic, and then there's just plain ridiculous.

PalaceMonkey
16-04-2008, 01:40 PM
Aren't Hull the most in-form team in the division?

How could they possibly lose three in a row?


Although, according to insightful Lawro, the most likely time for a Hull to lose is when they're in excellent form.
Thanks Lawro.

CHERRY TREE BRB
16-04-2008, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by BW_Palace
There's optimistic, and then there's just plain ridiculous.

In this divsion anything can happen, I won't believe we're out of the running for 2nd place until it becomes mathematically impossible.

Top 5 (except Hull )- Last 38 games played- No of wins: 8
Says it all really:p

cranesparkeagle
16-04-2008, 02:17 PM
thought Hull looked impressive last night. Think the 1 + 2 positions may not change now. Hull is now our toughest game. I echo everyones sentiments. We owe Watford one. We need to be tough in the middle and quick down the sides and we can do the Hornets.

Away Day Eagle
16-04-2008, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by cranesparkeagle
. We owe Watford one. .

Big time :)

Chris K
16-04-2008, 02:24 PM
Interesting scenario is that if we win one of our next two and Ipswich draw and win their next two then final day it will be a race to see who will score more. Us being against Burnely, Ipswich v Hull, agent Kiraly do your thang!

P.Hep
16-04-2008, 02:28 PM
If it all comes down to the last game, the atmosphere is going to be ••••••• mental!:p

nathe
16-04-2008, 02:31 PM
TBH i'm not getting carried away i'm just going to enjoy the ride. There will be ups and downs in the last 3 games. That's the beauty of supporting Palace.

BW_Palace
16-04-2008, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by CHERRY TREE BRB
In this divsion anything can happen, I won't believe we're out of the running for 2nd place until it becomes mathematically impossible.

Top 5 (except Hull )- Last 38 games played- No of wins: 8
Says it all really:p

Ok, well,

WBA are uncatchable (unless we suddenly win every game 7-0).

Hull need just 1 win or 2 draws so that they become uncatchable. Obviously that means a win vs Ipswich/Sheff Utd or 2 draws with those two. Can't see them failing to win 3 straight games after being the form team. If this happens then we're already out.

But ALSO, you need Stoke failing to get 2 points out of Bristol City, Colchester, and Leicester, a reasonably 'easy' run in.

AND, you need Watford to also fail to win their 2 games apart from us, with those games being against a woeful Scunthorpe and a Blackpool in free fall.

One of this situations COULD happen, but the likelihood of all 3 happening, AND us winning 3 games, with 2 away games to top 5 teams, is extremely low. stackho (sp) will probably point out that the chances are about 1 in 1000 :p

tasty_snacks
16-04-2008, 03:06 PM
is it only me who is worried about plymouth?

they've snuck up there and have hung around for quite some time, too. and with two home games in a row - against preston & blackpool - they could really be knocking on the door with 66 pts come final day.

dark horses imo. :eek:

Jimmy Eagle
16-04-2008, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by tasty_snacks
is it only me who is worried about plymouth?

they've snuck up there and have hung around for quite some time, too. and with two home games in a row - against preston & blackpool - they could really be knocking on the door with 66 pts come final day.

dark horses imo. :eek:

No chance

dave_c00
16-04-2008, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by tasty_snacks
is it only me who is worried about plymouth?

they've snuck up there and have hung around for quite some time, too. and with two home games in a row - against preston & blackpool - they could really be knocking on the door with 66 pts come final day.

dark horses imo. :eek:

If you think that, they are 40-1 to gain promotion.... worth a tenner no?

CPFC_DAVE77
16-04-2008, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by dave_c00
If you think that, they are 40-1 to gain promotion.... worth a tenner no?

For me Plymouth can't afford to drop a point in order to have a chance, Charlton have a point more than them and they all consider their promotion push over, so IMO Plymouth arn't too much of a threat, neer know though.

PeterH
16-04-2008, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by DE - Glad All Over
It's impossible to predict this stuff otherwise we would all be 'Pools millionaires'

Few more twists and turns left yet, my prediction, we need to win last game of the season to get a play-off place.

The crowd will be 51,801
Swindlehurst and Walsh will score.:lux:

Trouble with you old man is that you always live in the past.

BBD
16-04-2008, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by PeterH
Trouble with you old man is that you always live in the past.

Hang on a minute. If Jordan said everyone who's bought a (season) ticket can bring a guest - that's 26,000 X 2 = 52K. If everyone stood with their guest we'd easily do it.

As for the scorers...well that is far fetched. Hoping to have Swindles there but he was never the most svelte of gents in the first place. Walshie will be covering Cardiff no doubt for Radio Taffe. :D

Moses 'n' Scanell'll do me! LONG way off yet. Let's just see what WE can do and worry about the rest after we've done the business ourselves. If we have to rely on others now, we don't deserve to go up anyways in which case we'll be looking forward to an exciting campaign next season.

Trip to Wembley would be nice though wouldn't it!

tasty_snacks
16-04-2008, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by Jimmy Eagle
No chance

we shall see...

good odds at 40-1. if they don't make it, certainly worth a bit of arb betting at betfair, as after they beat preston/b'pool the odds are sure to decrease.

StudentEagle
16-04-2008, 09:44 PM
Originally posted by tasty_snacks
we shall see...

good odds at 40-1. if they don't make it, certainly worth a bit of arb betting at betfair, as after they beat preston/b'pool the odds are sure to decrease.

Preston is far from a formality - they're 3rd in the form tables with a run of LdWWdWww and unbeaten in their last 5 away from home.

Plymouth on the other hand are hardly ripping up trees with a run of dLlDwlLW (that's 3 home games without a win too).