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philaire

22-09-2008, 05:09 AM

Originally posted by Men At Work
So Sydney won, then? Luck of the draw for the theatregoers, facing Adelaide's reserves. Some nice goals though. Poppa looked pretty good, albeit against limited opposition.

Some poor crowds - 4,300 in Perth. And the Roar's support has every right to be fickle, with the home team failing yet again in front of its fans.

TonysMumsabitch

22-09-2008, 06:23 AM

The VPL grand final yesterday at BJS had more spectators than the Perth game yesterday.

Says it all really ...

crystaljim

22-09-2008, 07:18 AM

Its a shame as they were such an NSL success story and they have been left behind.

TonysMumsabitch

22-09-2008, 09:00 AM

They will be back. They just need to get some results, and start treating their fans a bit better.

TonysMumsabitch

24-09-2008, 06:06 AM

Fabiano's appeal hearing is tonight.

Interesting to note Melbourne are still appealing the actual spitting charge, and not the sentence.

Should be interesting.

ozzieEagle

24-09-2008, 08:33 AM

Here's hoping. MV didn't look quite as sharp without his presence.

Raoul Duke

24-09-2008, 12:02 PM

Just witnessed a fantastic game of football tonight in the Asian Champions League.

The game was played at an excellent speed and both sides displaying some excellent skills. Well above anything that I've seen in the A League over 90 minutes.

Well done Adelaide United, wish I was there to see it live :)

oz_da II

24-09-2008, 10:12 PM

Originally posted by Raoul Duke
Well done Adelaide United, wish I was there to see it live :)

I was there. :p

A great night out, absolutely hilarious to see the goose score the winner.

Will be interesting to see if they can take this sort of form and commitment into their A-League games.

crystaljim

24-09-2008, 10:32 PM

Well done Adelaide, that was a great result.

ozzieEagle

24-09-2008, 10:36 PM

Pains me to say it, but Congrats to Adelaide.

Wish I'd have seen the game, was sleeping.

whens it on again ?

1 game away from the world club championships aren't they ? If both the finalists get into the WCC ?

philaire

24-09-2008, 10:47 PM

Great result by Adelaide and agree it was an excellent game. Adelaide seriously ran out of legs in the last few minutes though. Could have been disastrous as I would have fancied the Antlers if they'd dragged it into extra time. But let's put it in perspective; the Antlers squad is valued at many multiples of Adelaide's. You'd think they'd have some kind of chance against the Uzbek team in the semis too, before meeting Victory's nemesis Gamba or Urawa in the final. Agree with Vidmar that the A-league should look at providing some concessions (eg. rescheduling) to avoid fixture congestion. That'll be an interesting test for FFA since they'll essentially be testing their relationship with Foxtel.

philaire

24-09-2008, 10:51 PM

Originally posted by TonysMumsabitch
Fabiano's appeal hearing is tonight.

Interesting to note Melbourne are still appealing the actual spitting charge, and not the sentence.

Should be interesting. Nine weeks down to six; hardly a glittering success for the Victory appellants. The more you hear the more you get the impression Victory have botched this from whoa to go. Last night they were denied introducing evidence from biomechanists and other technical evidence as they should have presented it at the original hearing. I still think the reasonable doubt surrounding his actions should have meant no more than say three weeks.

crystaljim

24-09-2008, 11:00 PM

I think Rivaldo plays for the Uzbek team, but don't quote me on it.

oz_da II

24-09-2008, 11:18 PM

Originally posted by crystaljim
I think Rivaldo plays for the Uzbek team, but don't quote me on it.

Correct with Zico managing.

Will be interesting to see what sort of clown antics Rivaldo may get up to...

kayjay

25-09-2008, 09:13 AM

Zico reached legend status in Japan in the 90's
managing last nights combatants, Kashima Antlers!

sydney eagle

25-09-2008, 10:31 AM

Got tickets to QLD V Melb today for November 8th and just finally received my aus V Qatar tickets as well.

should be 2 good nights

IW_Eagle

25-09-2008, 10:45 AM

Originally posted by sydney eagle
Got tickets to QLD V Melb today for November 8th and just finally received my aus V Qatar tickets as well.

should be 2 good nights

At Suncorp? Pre match beer?

I cant make the Qatar game as I will be in Melbourne.

LA Galaxy play the roar on the 11th Dec I think it is...

sydney eagle

25-09-2008, 11:09 AM

yes mate,I can meet pre match . Just let me know where and when:p

IW_Eagle

25-09-2008, 11:12 AM

Originally posted by sydney eagle
yes mate,I can meet pre match . Just let me know where and when:p

Will sort it nearer the time, have your number from when we met in Sydney, but I expect Kitty O'Shea's.

sydney eagle

25-09-2008, 11:36 AM

we met in sydney mate???

Unless you're a norwegian bird named Inge lise I don't think we've ever met as the last time I was in Sydney was July for 1 day and I only met her that day :D

I do live on the gold coast though so it won't be a prob getting in contact

* as an aside I met a bloke named Russell last saturday night at suncorp,he was wearing a Palace shirt from the 97/98 season so I assumed he was a BBS'er and i was drunk enough to go have a chat,Turns out he has never heard of the BBS but has met about 10 palace fans at Roar games:p :D

IW_Eagle

25-09-2008, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by sydney eagle
we met in sydney??

Unless you're a norwegian bird named Inge lise I don't think we've ever met as the last time I was in Sydney was July for 1 day and I only met her that day :D

I do live on the gold coast though so it won't be a prob getting in contact

I am thinking of OzEagle.... :cool:

sydney eagle

25-09-2008, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by IW_Eagle
I am thinking of OzEagle.... :cool: oh dear, Julian will be pleased to hear that :D

IW_Eagle

25-09-2008, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by sydney eagle

* as an aside I met a bloke named Russell last saturday night at suncorp,he was wearing a Palace shirt from the 97/98 season so I assumed he was a BBS'er and i was drunk enough to go have a chat,Turns out he has never heard of the BBS but has met about 10 palace fans at Roar games:p :D

This season I have been wearing my new palace shirts with pride.

I have spoken to a couple of palace fans last season in the bar, none this season yet.

sydney eagle

25-09-2008, 11:45 AM

Originally posted by IW_Eagle
This season I have been wearing my new palace shirts with pride.

I have spoken to a couple of palace fans last season in the bar, none this season yet. This was at the Brisbane Broncos V Melbourne storm rugby league game

this is the bloke in this photo,maybe someone on here knows him,His name was Russell,thats all I know

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/theredsunband/P9200778.jpg

IW_Eagle

25-09-2008, 11:48 AM

Not me...

philaire

26-09-2008, 04:38 AM

Originally posted by IW_Eagle
I am thinking of OzEagle.... :cool: easy to get them confused... :rolleyes:

oz_da II

26-09-2008, 10:36 AM

Petkovic... oh dear... :clown:

Surfside

26-09-2008, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by sydney eagle
This was at the Brisbane Broncos V Melbourne storm rugby league game

this is the bloke in this photo,maybe someone on here knows him,His name was Russell,thats all I know

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/theredsunband/P9200778.jpg

Bahaha, I met him in a pub in Brisbane last year.....that is all

sydney eagle

27-09-2008, 12:01 PM

The second adelaide goal was comical

oz_da II

28-09-2008, 08:40 AM

Farina's Fools couldn't score in a brothel with a fist full of fifties. :clown:

oz_da II

28-09-2008, 08:47 AM

1f73

Hehehe, was hoping that would work. :D

IW_Eagle

28-09-2008, 09:04 AM

2 Goals will do.... Good result for Roar away from home.

sydney eagle

28-09-2008, 10:02 AM

2-0...could have been 10. Melbourne were abysmal, I especially loved Zullo skinning Muscat at the end to score the second,It was like the cherry on top

good win away from home

Surfside

28-09-2008, 12:24 PM

We were sh1t tonight. Although I must admit, it would probably help if the bloody refs would stop sending off our players

oz_da II

28-09-2008, 01:50 PM

Should stop giving them ammunition...

philaire

29-09-2008, 12:16 AM

Originally posted by Surfside
We were sh1t tonight. Although I must admit, it would probably help if the bloody refs would stop sending off our players Although once again we looked better when we were down to 10. Can't deny Roar their result. We looked a lot like last year, with Thompson and Allsopp huffing and puffing but getting nowhere. However, probably puts in context where the league is at - Roar are a better team than their results to date have shown, and probably Victory's standing has flattered them a bit. Great tragedy to see the theatregoers going down in Wellington though :o

crystaljim

29-09-2008, 12:23 AM

While we are on topic, thankyou very much for Caceres.

hughff

29-09-2008, 12:26 AM

Said it before: Sydney is the Phoenix's bitch

sydney eagle

29-09-2008, 02:03 AM

Are any of you blokes coming to suncorp on November 8th for the roar V Victory game?

TonysMumsabitch

29-09-2008, 03:39 AM

Originally posted by sydney eagle
Are any of you blokes coming to suncorp on November 8th for the roar V Victory game?

Yep, I am.

:cool:

IW_Eagle

29-09-2008, 03:42 AM

Join us at Kitty's then...

TonysMumsabitch

29-09-2008, 03:45 AM

Will do.

Is that a Roar bar, or?

I will be in QLD for much of November, I've planned it so I am in Brisbane for the MVFC/Roar fixture, but have time to so stuff on either side of the 8th as well.

IW_Eagle

29-09-2008, 03:51 AM

Originally posted by TonysMumsabitch
Will do.

Is that a Roar bar, or?

I will be in QLD for much of November, I've planned it so I am in Brisbane for the MVFC/Roar fixture, but have time to so stuff on either side of the 8th as well.

Yeah, Roar bar where the 'Orange Army' go. Plenty of bars on Caxton Street though if you are wearing Melbourne colours, worried about trouble - not that I have seen any. Hardly seen any away fans to be fair due to distances to travel in Australia!

TonysMumsabitch

29-09-2008, 04:01 AM

Me and my lads have a good rapport with the Northern Element dudes, so it's all good. It's very much a case of "my enemies enemy is my friend" with MVFC & Roar fans. :D I usually don't wear colours, but a scarf might be the order of the day there, so as to facilitate some good banter. ;)

I look forward to catching up yourself and other Palace fans too should the opportunity arise. Not 100% sure, but I think Surfside might be heading up as well.

Surfside

29-09-2008, 04:34 AM

Originally posted by oz_da II
Should stop giving them ammunition...

Haven't seen the replay from last night yet, but I thought Hernandez looked a bit hard done by. Also, wasn't Tiatto booked in the first half?

Anyways, you get that. Probably not heading up to Qld, was considering it, but am going to Perth in December and also have to go and play futsal in Adelaide in a couple of weeks so will probs be a bit short on funds.

Farawayeagle

29-09-2008, 11:36 AM

I see the new Wollongong bid is moving along.

http://203.15.102.152/a-league/south-coast-fc-ready-to-roll-140714/

philaire

29-09-2008, 11:42 PM

Originally posted by Farawayeagle
I see the new Wollongong bid is moving along.

http://203.15.102.152/a-league/south-coast-fc-ready-to-roll-140714/ I'm wondering what would make a new version of Wollongong Wolves financially viable this time around. Although having said that I can't get excited about a Canberra bid either...

crystaljim

29-09-2008, 11:45 PM

Originally posted by philaire
I'm wondering what would make a new version of Wollongong Wolves financially viable this time around. Although having said that I can't get excited about a Canberra bid either...

Bruce Gordon is his name I think. Owns a decent sized media empire (for Australia) and owns Channel 4 in Wollongong. Bankrolling the bid.

philaire

30-09-2008, 03:58 AM

Originally posted by crystaljim
Bruce Gordon is his name I think. Owns a decent sized media empire (for Australia) and owns Channel 4 in Wollongong. Bankrolling the bid. Dangerous territory. Witness Perth Glory since Nick Tana stopped bankrolling them.

crystaljim

30-09-2008, 04:11 AM

Most clubs have one major sugar daddy, don't tell me Melbourne is run by a democratic collective of investors?

philaire

30-09-2008, 06:35 AM

Originally posted by crystaljim
Most clubs have one major sugar daddy, don't tell me Melbourne is run by a democratic collective of investors? I think what helps is a solid support of 20,000-25,000 per game, membership still around 15,000.

philaire

30-09-2008, 06:37 AM

Slightly off-topic, but for those with lingering memories of our World Cup exit, this article (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2008/sep/29/sidlowe.laliga) will resonate with those who still have a pic of Luis Medina Cantalejo on their dartboard.

oz_da II

30-09-2008, 12:28 PM

Not surprising at all.

and disgraceful from Barca as well, one thing that annoys me a lot is when teams win a game in embarrassing circumstances (and they know it) and they act like idiots in "celebrating". Boo Hiss Hiss.

kayjay

01-10-2008, 09:29 AM

Originally posted by crystaljim
Bruce Gordon is his name I think. Owns a decent sized media empire (for Australia) and owns Channel 4 in Wollongong. Bankrolling the bid. Is that Bruce Wayne or Commissioner Gordon?

Farawayeagle

01-10-2008, 09:41 AM

Originally posted by philaire
I'm wondering what would make a new version of Wollongong Wolves financially viable this time around. Although having said that I can't get excited about a Canberra bid either...

This bid will have nothing to do with WW. I have some contacts within the bid and they seem confident in the structure of their finances.

Getting to 20,000 crowds will be a challenge. But they are prepared to give it a shot.

There is more I would like to say but can't.

philaire

01-10-2008, 10:58 PM

Originally posted by Farawayeagle
This bid will have nothing to do with WW. Just quoting their past NSL experience. Survival in this league is as much about capturing the public's attention and gaining a critical mass of support as it is gathering a few rich wigs together. There are fewer Simon Jordans in our neck of the woods and even they eventually get bored or tired of forking out endless dosh.

For me, I would hold the numbers at 10 and see if the newest clubs remain viable.

sydney eagle

02-10-2008, 12:04 AM

Clive Palmer is doing a great job so far up here.The man clearly has high expectations of his club from the very first kick off. I can't wait.

oz_da II

02-10-2008, 02:30 AM

Farina's disillusioned another fan, I see...

sydney eagle

02-10-2008, 04:12 AM

err, Clive Palmer is the Gold Coast owner :)

oz_da II

02-10-2008, 04:47 AM

I thought you were a member of Frank's Roaring Army...

sydney eagle

02-10-2008, 05:06 AM

haha Nah,I just go watch them when my mates get tickets(they are big roar fans). As it is at the moment I look out for QLD results before anybody elses because they're my local team but I'm with you on the farina debate, he's a twat.

It'll be a superb rivalry between the roar and GC team,It's going to be great for the game & I'm looking forward to being involved in the inaugral Gold coast united season

oz_da II

02-10-2008, 11:57 PM

The Melbourne Who?

Australian outfit Melbourne Heat are hoping to make injured Newcastle striker Mark Viduka, 32, their marquee signing at the end of the season. (The Times)

oz_da II

03-10-2008, 06:09 AM

Oh dear, how short is Ernie's memory?
What a hypocrite.

MELBOURNE Victory coach Ernie Merrick has taken a swipe at opposition players' on-field theatrics.

Merrick, who produced the FIFA Laws Of The Game handbook to start his weekly media conference, intimated too many A-League players were guilty of diving and causing problems for referees and fellow professionals.

Hernandez was sent off in the 2-0 loss to Queensland Roar on Sunday when referee Ben Williams issued a second yellow card for diving. The Costa Rican had earlier been booked for a tackle on Matt McKay.

Melbourne has drawn three red cards in its past three games, but Merrick quietly defended Hernandez while turning the spotlight on the opposition, highlighting how his players respond to illegal tackles and challenges.

"We're a very disciplined side and perhaps we're too disciplined at times," Merrick said. "When our players get tackled, they don't roll around for half an hour. We get straight back up on our feet.

sydney eagle

03-10-2008, 10:35 AM

Adelaide off to a flyer against CCM. 2-0 after 18 mins

sydney eagle

03-10-2008, 11:48 AM

what a game

adelaide up 3-0, Central coast have pulled it back to 3-3 with 6 mins left

the 3rd goal was fantastic skill by matt simon

philaire

03-10-2008, 01:26 PM

Originally posted by sydney eagle
the 3rd goal was fantastic skill by matt simon more like crap judgment from Galekovic... he had a bad last 15 mins

ozzieEagle

03-10-2008, 09:54 PM

Just curious is it illegal/against ground rules, to take a hip flask of whisky to the football, I'm fed up with being subversive.

MV v Perth tonight, not the most enticing of games, still we'll be there.

sydney eagle

04-10-2008, 10:12 AM

Charlie Miller scores again for QLD,his 5th this season

1-0 against sydney in the 49th :)

sydney eagle

04-10-2008, 10:57 AM

sydney equalised with 15 seconds left in injury time :grrr:

TonysMumsabitch

04-10-2008, 10:17 PM

Normal service resumes at MVFC. A good weekend all around with Palace triumphant as well.

Perth are on their deathbed.

ozzieEagle

04-10-2008, 11:37 PM

20a7

Only just scraped 18,000 though, hopefully thats as low an attendance as MV will ever get.

Still the patrons that do turn up, really do turn it on for the team. Seems quite often the best games are the ones that seem the least enticing.

Surfside

05-10-2008, 12:51 AM

Perth are quite possibly the poorest professional football team I have ever seen in my life. That wasn't a football match last night, that was an extra training session during a week off. 4-0 was harsh on Melbourne, it should've been 10.

Oh and farken Sydney but still, they didn't win, so we're still top of the league. Grand Final MVFC vs SFC and the MCG ;)

sydney eagle

05-10-2008, 11:14 AM

Originally posted by ozzieEagle
Only just scraped 18,000 though, hopefully thats as low an attendance as MV will ever get.

you only had 16,000 against QLD a week earlier

Men At Work

05-10-2008, 11:22 AM

Originally posted by sydney eagle
sydney equalised with 15 seconds left in injury time :grrr:

Given that comment and Paul's user name plus his stated support for the Titans (he used to be a Penrith supporter) and his desire to follow a Gold Coast team after crowing about the Roar for the last few years I'm expecting him to ask Dave to change his login to 'gold coast red devil' ;)

philaire

05-10-2008, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by sydney eagle
you only had 16,000 against QLD a week earlier wrong, syd - there were 22,226 v Queensland.

I think the crowds will bounce back - the Perth game had the dampening effect of a lot of players out for Melbourne and less-than-enthralling opposition.

philaire

05-10-2008, 11:34 AM

Interestingly, at time of writing crowds are 19% down on last year. Wellington (35% down) worst offender, Adelaide 30% down (rather go to the ACL games instead), Queensland 27% down (can't win at home), Central Coast 27% down (team not as good this season), Sydney 19% down (assume better theatre/show options exist), Melbourne 16% down (to a lousy 22,000 average), Perth only 6% down (at 7,200 can't go much lower) and Newcastle marginally up but have only played at home twice.

sydney eagle

05-10-2008, 09:07 PM

Originally posted by Men At Work
Given that comment and Paul's user name plus his stated support for the Titans (he used to be a Penrith supporter) and his desire to follow a Gold Coast team after crowing about the Roar for the last few years I'm expecting him to ask Dave to change his login to 'gold coast red devil' ;) :sob:

ozzieEagle

05-10-2008, 10:05 PM

Could it also be that for some reason a 5pm Saturday fixture, is possibly the worst time or so it seems, for Melbourne to play it's games. Would there have been more attending at 8pm or even a Sunday. I'm certain now, that Melbourne crowds love the Friday night games.

TonysMumsabitch

06-10-2008, 12:39 AM

Originally posted by sydney eagle
you only had 16,000 against QLD a week earlier

FAIL.

Skid Row

06-10-2008, 01:28 AM

Originally posted by TonysMumsabitch
FAIL.
I bet those extra 6 thousand now wish they didnt turn up.

sydney eagle

06-10-2008, 02:29 AM

Originally posted by philaire
wrong, syd - there were 22,226 v Queensland.

Don't blame me,Fox sports definately announced it during the match

and going back to Grahams (hopefully light hearted ) dig about swapping teams. I still support Penrith in the NRL but I live on the Gold coast so I have a season ticket up here and it turns out I quite like the titans more than I expected and have made a whole new bunch of mates through it as well so while my team has always been the panthers since I was a little kid I also have come to support my local team as well.

as for the Gold coast A league team I've never "supported" QLD roar,I just look out for them because they have been my local team since the a league began.Ive never even been to a roar game,my first one will be in a few weeks against melbourne.I will be at every GC game though and they will be my a league side

philaire

06-10-2008, 02:41 AM

Originally posted by sydney eagle
Don't blame me,Fox sports definately announced it during the match You should have known it was wrong syd... 16,000 in Melbourne? ;)

sydney eagle

06-10-2008, 03:27 AM

In fairness you just scraped by it this weekend:p

oz_da II

06-10-2008, 03:35 AM

Originally posted by sydney eagle
as for the Gold coast A league team I've never "supported" QLD roar

You sure had everyone here fooled. :D

ozzieEagle

06-10-2008, 03:41 AM

Originally posted by sydney eagle
In fairness you just scraped by it this weekend:p

Next home game, 7pm Saturday 18th... Against Sydney FC, should double the last games attendance for that one.

philaire

06-10-2008, 04:06 AM

Originally posted by ozzieEagle
Next home game, 7pm Saturday 18th... Against Sydney FC, should double the last games attendance for that one. by this season's standards, I reckon about 28,000.

sydney eagle

06-10-2008, 04:14 AM

On a serious note,why have your crowds dropped? You're top of the league.

ozzieEagle

06-10-2008, 05:59 AM

Originally posted by sydney eagle
On a serious note,why have your crowds dropped? You're top of the league.

A lot of it is to do with Telstra dome being a crap enviornment for Football, especially the way they treated the home end fans, aka the BWB. People I talk to are mentioning the crap standard of the A league as well. I try pointing out that it will get better with more people attending, equating to more money into the game, but that argument falls on deaf ears.

It should, hopefully. be a different story for MV next season when they move into their own ground. As there is finite amount of members they can take on board..... Circa 30,000 members I think.

philaire

06-10-2008, 06:09 AM

Originally posted by sydney eagle
On a serious note,why have your crowds dropped? You're top of the league. The stats may be a bit misleading as the average so far this season doesn't contain a Sydney fixture. If the Sydney game draws say 28,000, then the average will come up to over 23,000 for the first five home games. Also, the first 3 home games were during the AFL season; numbers should come up a bit with less competition.

oz_da II

08-10-2008, 12:36 PM

Well played Adelaide, great result. Surely can't blow the 2nd leg...

What an embarrassment Rivaldo was, $10.2M for a bloke played of the park by a Seaweed reject. Hardly got a touch and had the obligatory stretcher off and back on 10 seconds later. Highlight of his game was a successful dive for a free kick 25 yards out. Oh dear... :clown:

crystaljim

08-10-2008, 09:53 PM

Great effort, and a great crowd too. Just have to hold them out next week. :lux:

TonysMumsabitch

08-10-2008, 11:41 PM

As painful as it is on some levels to see AUFC get this far. Part of me can't help be happy for them, given they are representing our league. Still don't want them to win it though, we'd never hear the flipping end of it otherwise.

oz_da II

08-10-2008, 11:47 PM

we'd never hear the flipping end of it otherwise.

How rich is this coming from a Melbourne supporter? :clown:

TonysMumsabitch

08-10-2008, 11:51 PM

We have an air of superiority that is well deserved IMO.

;)

crystaljim

08-10-2008, 11:58 PM

We have an air of superiority that is well deserved IMO.

;)

I think we have found the Carlton of the A league. :hi:

oz_da II

09-10-2008, 12:14 AM

We have an air of superiority that is well deserved IMO.

;)

Obviously all traces of season '07 has been erased from every Victory fan's memory...

philaire

09-10-2008, 12:51 AM

Well played Adelaide, great result. Surely can't blow the 2nd leg..Terrific result for Adelaide and can every confidence in Tashkent. And will assist the standing of the A-league in general.

kayjay

09-10-2008, 01:42 AM

I hope Adelaide win the thing.
Can only be good for A-League growth :p

crystaljim

15-10-2008, 05:27 AM

I half the stories are true, the new Gold Coast team is not letting the grass grow under its feet. Talking to Coyne, Steffanuto and Chipperfield, with Culina as their Marquee player

IW_Eagle

15-10-2008, 05:53 AM

I half the stories are true, the new Gold Coast team is not letting the grass grow under its feet. Talking to Coyne, Steffanuto and Chipperfield, with Culina as their Marquee player

Just seen the same thing on the TV - same program you are watching by the looks of it! Some Fox channel.

philaire

16-10-2008, 02:49 AM

Culina as their Marquee playerwhich, unsurprisingly, Culina has rejected out of hand...

crystaljim

16-10-2008, 02:51 AM

Just seen the same thing on the TV - same program you are watching by the looks of it! Some Fox channel.

Don't have Fox, I was reading the Australian, lazy journalism rules !
:)

oz_da II

16-10-2008, 03:18 AM

Would be one of the most stupid moves of all time.

crystaljim

16-10-2008, 04:15 AM

Would be one of the most stupid moves of all time.

Getting Fox?

oz_da II

16-10-2008, 04:20 AM

Getting Fox?

:D

Nah, get fox.

Quote was in reference to Culina joining the Gold Coast franchise.

sydney eagle

16-10-2008, 09:05 AM

I half the stories are true, the new Gold Coast team is not letting the grass grow under its feet. Talking to Coyne, Steffanuto and Chipperfield, with Culina as their Marquee player

Sterjovski looks likely to be here on the coast.It's all over todays GC newspapers

IW_Eagle

18-10-2008, 02:02 AM

Met another Palace guy at the QLD Roar game last night, Mark. Both with our Palace shirts on!

He had not heard about this site, so I told him he should sign up and told him there are several guys in Australia etc, good conversations etc etc. He was keen for the Melbourne game as well - so should be a fair number of us in Brisbane.

Side note - Again, QLD Roar CANT win at home.

philaire

18-10-2008, 11:49 AM

Matthew Breeze showing what a big man he is tonight by sending Archie Thompson off. What a joke. It's not "RESPECT" he has embroidered on the pocket of his referee shirt, it's "WANKER". This is the guy that sent Fabiano off and commited him to 6 weeks, and wasn't even facing the player at the time. Prize dickhead. And presumably he's our no.1 ref following the retirement of Mark Shield. This type of crap will turn supporters away from the league.

Surfside

18-10-2008, 12:55 PM

Phil, Breeze was awful tonight, but he got that decision right. I don't care how bad the ref is, you can't call him a "f*&king c*&t" and expect to get away with it. Ernie needs to start drilling it into the players that they can't keep getting stupid red cards. 4 in 5 matches is unacceptable, particularly when 3 of those 4 are for stupid undisciplined acts.

sydney eagle

18-10-2008, 01:15 PM

Phil, Breeze was awful tonight, but he got that decision right. I don't care how bad the ref is, you can't call him a "f*&king c*&t" and expect to get away with it.

too bloody right

Can't see how you can attack the decision Phil

kayjay

18-10-2008, 09:11 PM

philaire

19-10-2008, 11:00 PM

Phil, Breeze was awful tonight, but he got that decision right. I don't care how bad the ref is, you can't call him a "f*&king c*&t" and expect to get away with it. Er, on reflection you may have a point. Certainly wasn't across exactly what he said at the time. I'm certainly coloured by all of Breeze's "moments" with Victory over the past few seasons.

Skid Row

20-10-2008, 12:08 AM

too bloody right

Can't see how you can attack the decision Phil
When someone is a ••••••• •••• you should be allowed to call them a ••••••• •••• in my opinion.

Either way, he is a very very very overated ref.

philaire

20-10-2008, 12:37 AM

Either way, he is a very very very overated ref.Sad times indeed when he appears now to be our most experienced ref following Shield's retirement.:rolleyes:

kayjay

20-10-2008, 12:51 AM

I had issues with Shield, and you're telling me this c*&ts worse?

Surfside

20-10-2008, 01:18 AM

Well legally, its not defamation if you can prove its true, so maybe the same is true in football. All we have to do is prove irrefutably that Breeze is definately a "f*&king c&*t," and not just an awful referee, and we should have Archie back for the Sydney game :D

TonysMumsabitch

20-10-2008, 06:50 AM

If we sent players off at any stage for swearing directly or indirectly at; decisions, how they're treated, tackled or whatever - we'd never have 11 onto 11. Swearing happens, they're all adults out there. I also think there's a difference between swearing directly at someone, and swearing to no one in particular, just exasperated exclamations, etc.

I'm with philaire on this one, I believe Breeze's reaction was more about himself than it was about officiating. He put himself at centre stage by reacting the way he did. The quickness in which he did it leads me to that conclusion. He didn't even think about it or blink, he just reacted.

A stern warning, accompanied with a yellow card as his 1st offence would have sufficed for what Archie did.

oz_da II

20-10-2008, 07:25 AM

sydney eagle

20-10-2008, 07:59 AM

sydney eagle

20-10-2008, 08:00 AM

Anyone, always funny to see the Victory weekly 'woes is me" when they lose moaning.

:D

we rarely agree but this I'm with you 100% :D

kayjay

20-10-2008, 08:26 AM

sydney eagle

20-10-2008, 08:40 AM

oz_da II

20-10-2008, 08:52 AM

Now that red cards have become an issue at the Victory,
the next ref to send someone off out-trumps the ref before him -
a sort of snowball effect.
And accordingly, gets his name in brighter lights.
I'd hate to think chances for advancement in the referee world
hinged on how quickly you can produce a card,
Oh, just a theory, watch this space I guess.

I see the garbage you spurt out on the AFL thread has made its way to the A-League thread.

:clown:

Don't swear at the ref don't get sent off, surely not too difficult of a concept to grasp even for Victorians...

oz_da II

20-10-2008, 08:57 AM

Did anybody see the Perth/Sydney game? Fyfe deserved the red for touching the head of the opponent BUT Trinidads 'dive" was one of the worst I've ever seen and deserved a yellow at the very least.It was disgraceful, he hardly got touched,If at all

I'm not sure about the worst ever, probably seen that sort of thing around the world on at least 30 occasions. Happens all the time.

It is pathetic, would be funny to see that sort of thing happen in a sport like ice hockey.

Surfside

20-10-2008, 01:10 PM

1f89

Pick the melbourne fans on here. he called a referee a ******* **** (he actually screamed it at him directly to his face) and you guys think he didn't deserve a red card

Unbelievable

I would never defend any player from any team on earth for that. The refs all over the world are ******* useless but players have absolutely no right to verbally abuse an official and think they can get away with no reprocussions

I'm a Melbourne fan, I've said he deserved his red, I also said Theo and Fabiano deserved theirs. THe only one that was perhaps dubious was Hernandez, as he clearly didn't dive.

I must say though, Ernie is a softcock. How you can possibly not fine Archie Thompson for a red card for dissent is beyond me. And he wonders why we get so many red cards?

Every time, he backs the player, appeals the decision and says he was hard done by, or it was out of character or whatever. Merrick, harden the f&*k up, show the players who's boss and let them know stupid red cards are unacceptable. If the players think he doesn't care if they get sent off, they aren't gonna try to hard to ensure they stay on the pitch

philaire

20-10-2008, 10:09 PM

Did anybody see the Perth/Sydney game? Fyfe deserved the red for touching the head of the opponent BUT Trinidads 'dive" was one of the worst I've ever seen and deserved a yellow at the very least.It was disgraceful, he hardly got touched,If at allI have some sympathy for Kosmina in this instance as the timewasting antics from Perth were OTT and the ref appeared to lose control. Trinidad milked it, but Coyne's act was just as bad. Feigned cramp, is substituted, then stops halfway off to sit down as though he can't move. If only Matthew Breeze had been officiating. ;) Perth's skill level is so poor, they can't even cheat competently! As much as I enjoyed Sydney losing, I think it would have been hard to take.

philaire

20-10-2008, 10:23 PM

Don't swear at the ref don't get sent off, surely not too difficult of a concept to grasp even for Victorians...Honestly, I wouldn't have minded nearly as much had it been Mark Shield brandishing the card. It's as if Matthew Breeze has self-esteem issues. Breeze pointing to the "respect" badge spoke volumes. Respect is something that is earned, not imposed. Whatever Breeze's problem is, he comes across as having to affirm himself by becoming the centre of attention in such circumstances. A more circumspect ref would have nursed Thompson through his frustration rather than choosing to "impose" himself impulsively. A Scottish mate of mine has observed that there would be hardly a player left on the pitch in SPL games if dissent was dealt with in the same way over there. And yes I am smarting from Fabiano's six match suspension because Breeze again acted impulsively and in my view incorrectly. And don't call me Victorian!

Men At Work

20-10-2008, 10:33 PM

Respect is something that is earned, not imposed.

Perhaps the players should remember that cuts both ways. If you act like a baby you're justified in being treated as one.

oz_da II

20-10-2008, 11:26 PM

A Scottish mate of mine has observed that there would be hardly a player left on the pitch in SPL games if dissent was dealt with in the same way over there. And yes I am smarting from Fabiano's six match suspension because Breeze again acted impulsively and in my view incorrectly. And don't call me Victorian!

I didn't call you Victorian. :D

I follow Raith Rovers in Scotland and keep an eye on the skysports.com update ticker thing while Palace are playing. Of late, red cards for dissent have been occurring quite frequently in the Scottish Leagues.

TonysMumsabitch

21-10-2008, 02:29 AM

Was there not a directive from the league at the start of the season that swearing of any kind would not be tolerated? (as it goes this is also the case in my cricket league this season) From memory someone at Sydney got done in the first week.

Anyone, always funny to see the Victory weekly 'woes is me" when they lose moaning.

:D

I'm all happy to acknowledge send-offs when they're deserved, like Theo's stomping red card for example. I'm also happy to admit/conceed we were totally outplayed that day, and probably would have lost anyway, even with 11 men.

This aint a case of 'woe are us', it's just casual observations about the petulance of this particular referee, and this particular decision.

oz_da II

21-10-2008, 02:41 AM

I'm all happy to acknowledge send-offs when they're deserved, like Theo's stomping red card for example. I'm also happy to admit/conceed we were totally outplayed that day, and probably would have lost anyway, even with 11 men.

This aint a case of 'woe are us', it's just casual observations about the petulance of this particular referee, and this particular decision.

League wide directive at the start of the season: no swearing at the refs.

I don't think it said, "Except the Melbourne Victory."

ozzieEagle

21-10-2008, 02:49 AM

Its going to be interesting to see if MV can get a result against Sydney without Fabiano and Thompson on the Pitch.

Re the Refs swearing, as long as there is consistency, there wont be a complaint from me.

Anyone else been sent off for dissent/swearing. I've an idea someone copped a second yellow, earlier in the season.

philaire

21-10-2008, 02:54 AM

League wide directive at the start of the season: no swearing at the refs.

I don't think it said, "Except the Melbourne Victory."That's just being cute. Presumably the FFA forgot to mandate "... and don't forget to use common sense". Same goes for the occasional inconsistent and heavy-handed use of video reviews this season. I'd like to understand how this get-ridiculously-tough protocol has actually benefited the game here. Goodness knows this pro-Matthew Breeze environment (he's a police inspector in his spare time btw) has been lousy for attendances.

philaire

21-10-2008, 03:23 AM

Its going to be interesting to see if MV can get a result against Sydney without Fabiano and Thompson on the Pitch.It's going to be tough isn't it. A strike "force" of Pondeljak and Allsopp. An attack without Fabiano and Thompson against a defence without Fyfe - all due to debatable refereeing decisions. The net effect that we'll have the lowest ever attendance for a Melb-Sydney clash. But apparently that's good for football.:hmph:

Surfside

21-10-2008, 06:07 AM

2226

Breeze has always been heavy handed on dissent and swearing at officials. Which makes what Archie did even stupider. I think it was Musialik that got sent off for dissent earlier in the year

TonysMumsabitch

21-10-2008, 09:16 PM

League wide directive at the start of the season: no swearing at the refs.

I don't think it said, "Except the Melbourne Victory."

:rolleyes:

oz_da II

22-10-2008, 01:56 AM

Look who's come back with his tail between his legs. Surely Milligan could have got a game somewhere in Europe? Elgin City are leaking goals at the moment...

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,24534683-5000940,00.html

crystaljim

22-10-2008, 02:44 AM

I saw that, shame i won't be around for the derby match this saturday, I hope he gets some stick.

Raoul Duke

22-10-2008, 03:29 AM

TonysMumsabitch

22-10-2008, 04:58 AM

hilarious stuff, anyone else remember the 'rumours' that he was joining Arsenal.

And Werder Bremen and Spartak Moscow and several other G12 suitors.

:D

oz_da II

22-10-2008, 05:03 AM

Porto was the latest. :clown:

crystaljim

22-10-2008, 05:24 AM

Has James Troisi found a club? He was actually released by Newcastle United, different story to Milligan. Natural left sided player be good pick up for someone.

oz_da II

22-10-2008, 05:34 AM

Has James Troisi found a club? He was actually released by Newcastle United, different story to Milligan. Natural left sided player be good pick up for someone.

He's playing with Bruce at Gençlerbirliği S.K. in Turkey.

philaire

22-10-2008, 07:02 AM

hilarious stuff, anyone else remember the 'rumours' that he was joining Arsenal.the brainstrust on Fox sports gave him (or at least his management) a decent pasting last night. "A waste of six months". Seems hard to argue with.

Skid Row

22-10-2008, 08:27 PM

Congrats to Adelaide on making the final. Hopefully they can win it.

Raoul Duke

22-10-2008, 09:49 PM

Another great result for Adelaide United.

Does anyone know how much money they're making out of the ACL and if they qualify for the next competition if they win the Finals.

ozzieEagle

22-10-2008, 09:58 PM

Another great result for Adelaide United.

Does anyone know how much money they're making out of the ACL and if they qualify for the next competition if they win the Finals.

Not sure on that... however I think Adelaide have Qualified for the World club Championship... Chances are Adelaide will be playing Man Utd/Liverpool or Arsenal in the forseeable future.

Finally Australia really has joined the real world in Football terms.

What a fantastic leap real Football has had in this Country, in the last 10 years.

Lets hope its a situation of from Acorns...

Another day of saying "I never thought I'd see the day"

philaire

22-10-2008, 09:59 PM

Congrats to Adelaide on making the final. Hopefully they can win it.Sensational effort by Adelaide. Gamba Osaka will be very tough. They were superb in the second half last night against Urawa, and they were very classy in the 4-3 win at the Telstra Dome earlier in the year.

Surfside

23-10-2008, 12:10 AM

Another great result for Adelaide United.

Does anyone know how much money they're making out of the ACL and if they qualify for the next competition if they win the Finals.

They get $1 million which the FFA take and split between all the A-League teams........not exactly fair, but as we all know, the FFA are all carnts

kayjay

23-10-2008, 01:33 AM

I heard the winner goes into a World Club comp.
Might get a handy side to Hindmarsh, though Gamba won't be a pushover!

Skid Row

23-10-2008, 02:47 AM

They get $1 million which the FFA take and split between all the A-League teams........not exactly fair, but as we all know, the FFA are all carnts
How the hell does that work?

Sydney to get 80%.

crystaljim

23-10-2008, 04:37 AM

I believe Adelaide get all the money, at least thats what I read when there have been articles on the matter.

ozeagle

23-10-2008, 04:56 AM

Adelaide get it all. Nothing for the rest of the clubs. Also join the world club champs. Sensational effort. Hope they can win it.

kayjay

23-10-2008, 09:11 AM

Adelaide to get 65% and the clubs share the rest.

Surfside

24-10-2008, 01:24 AM

I believe Adelaide get all the money, at least thats what I read when there have been articles on the matter.

No they certainly do not. It goes straight to the FFA, who then distribute it among all the clubs

oz_da II

24-10-2008, 01:41 AM

No they certainly do not. It goes straight to the FFA, who then distribute it among all the clubs

Not quite right.

Adelaide United's remarkable ascent to the AFC Champions League final has produced a huge windfall for the Reds and possibly Australian football - with all A-League clubs set to share in the prizemoney.

Under a deal struck prior to A-League clubs taking part in the ACL, Adelaide will receive 75 per cent of the $A1.34m the Reds are guaranteed for making the ACL final and earning a spot in the FIFA Club World Cup in December.

But the other seven clubs will share in 20 per cent of the Reds' winnings - their cut at this stage totalling $268,000 - and set to rise substantially should Adelaide perform well in the Club World Cup in Japan.

oz_da II

24-10-2008, 02:02 AM

Ernie's on the same gear as kayjay...

Melbourne Victory coach Ernie Merrick has urged Socceroos boss Pim Verbeek to recall in-form striker Archie Thompson to the international stage.

Merrick is confident Thompson has made enough improvement on the deficiencies in his game to force his way into the Socceroos squad.

"We're getting mixed messages - Mark Bosnich is so impressed with the quality of the A-League and Pim doesn't appear to be impressed at the moment," Merrick said.

"I think Archie Thompson could certainly do a good job in the national team for the Socceroos.

:clown:

philaire

24-10-2008, 02:59 AM

Melbourne Victory coach Ernie Merrick has urged Socceroos boss Pim Verbeek to recall in-form striker Archie Thompson to the international stage.Please, no. Archie's recent efforts for Australia have been sub-standard. Well worth his spot with Victory, but he should retire from international football.

TonysMumsabitch

24-10-2008, 04:07 AM

No, he should not retire from international football. That's possibly the weirdest thing I've seen you write on here philaire. As much as Archie isn't up to the same standard as our first choice strikers like Kennedy, McDonald, Viduka etc - he still very much should be a squad player. Particularly for when we play smaller nations as part of our Asian campaigns when the 1st choice players are not available (i.e when there are no international breaks). He's still the best striker in Australia, the all-time leading goal scorer, and deserves a spot in the squad for that alone.

Surfside

24-10-2008, 04:09 AM

Surfside

24-10-2008, 04:11 AM

Not quite right.

I never said they split it evenly between the clubs :clown:

TonysMumsabitch

24-10-2008, 04:17 AM

Mixed message from Pim and Bosnich?

There's nothing mixed about it, one's an astute manager who is in charge of the national team, while the other is a sh1t talking crack-head.

Which do you believe?

If we hark back to when Pim actually made his comments; not only were they taken out of context slightly, but I strongly believe he said that so as to get the local lads fired up. And it worked. We've since seen more appearances from local lads in the camps/squads.

philaire

24-10-2008, 04:33 AM

That's possibly the weirdest thing I've seen you write on here philaire. Big call! ;)
As much as Archie isn't up to the same standard as our first choice strikers like Kennedy, McDonald, Viduka etc - he still very much should be a squad player. Particularly for when we play smaller nations as part of our Asian campaigns when the 1st choice players are not available (i.e when there are no international breaks). He's still the best striker in Australia, the all-time leading goal scorer, and deserves a spot in the squad for that alone.All-time leading goal scorer possibly says it all TMAB. He doesn't deserve a place as some kind of reward for past glories. Don't get me wrong, he's still very important for MV. But his international form has been very ho-hum over the last two seasons - uninspiring substitute appearances against China and Uruguay last year, never looked dangerous against Iraq in the Asian Cup finals, and just embarrassing against Argentina. Didn't look dangerous in the Singapore friendly earlier this year. And it's the likes of Singapore and Iraq we'll be meeting in those Asian qualifiers. The occasional embarrassing misses we forgive him for in MV games Australian can't afford in international matches. There aren't any more American Samoas left out there.

TonysMumsabitch

24-10-2008, 05:02 AM

But his international form has been very ho-hum over the last two seasons - uninspiring substitute appearances against China and Uruguay last year, never looked dangerous against Iraq in the Asian Cup finals, and just embarrassing against Argentina.

Didn't look dangerous in the Singapore friendly earlier this year. And it's the likes of Singapore and Iraq we'll be meeting in those Asian qualifiers. The occasional embarrassing misses we forgive him for in MV games Australian can't afford in international matches. There aren't any more American Samoas left out there.

He's been ho-hum, because of the lack of opportunities he's been given of late. When you appear as a 78th minute substitute, there's very little impact you can have in a game, particularly if the result is beyond doubt. Against China he was looking great until he got smashed up by that tackle, which then saw him out of our ACL campaign, as well as the rest of the Australian qualifiers. In the time he was gone, other players were able to push for his spot. This is why he lost ground.

As for the Asian Cup, big bow to draw there - the entire team was largely shithouse for that tournament.

All-time leading goal scorer possibly says it all TMAB. He doesn't deserve a place as some kind of reward for past glories.

I'm not interested in rewarding him for past glories. He's the leading scorer of the A-League in the here and now. He's still in lethal form for us (4 goals so far this season?), and there isn't a striker domestically that comes close IMO.

steve hail

24-10-2008, 07:06 AM

It would be amazing if Adelaide won the ACL. partioculalry given all the sneering we put up with from English based people on this site.

My loyalties are (1) CPFC and (2) Adelaide United.

Can't help wondering though (1) whether Palace would have a realistic chance of winning the ACL if they could enter and (2) whether Palace have a more skilful player than Cassio.

I think any of the top four or five A-League clubs could give Palace a run for their money over two legs.

oz_da II

24-10-2008, 07:37 AM

No chance...

oz_da II

24-10-2008, 07:45 AM

Can't help wondering though (1) whether Palace would have a realistic chance of winning the ACL if they could enter and (2) whether Palace have a more skilful player than Cassio.

(1) Palace would be big favourites, let's not kid ourselves the Uzbeks were abysmal.

(2) Watson and Carle for starters...

ozzieEagle

24-10-2008, 08:03 AM

(1) Palace would be big favourites, let's not kid ourselves the Uzbeks were abysmal.

(2) Watson and Carle for starters...

One of the problems with the Aleague is the inconsistency in levels of performance.

Howabout Newcastle last week, they could have given some lesser premiership teams a headache... let alone Palace.

Got to admit they couldnt finish though......Hmm or maybe it was MV's desperate defending

So maybe you have a point

oz_da II

24-10-2008, 08:25 AM

Surfside

24-10-2008, 09:31 AM

The A-League is alright for entertainment, but technically it is sh1te. If you watch the Saturday night games as they lead into the Premier League matches its like comparing an under 11s side full of handicapped kids with a professional football team.

Surfside

24-10-2008, 09:34 AM

One of the problems with the Aleague is the inconsistency in levels of performance.

Howabout Newcastle last week, they could have given some lesser premiership teams a headache... let alone Palace.

Got to admit they couldnt finish though......Hmm or maybe it was MV's desperate defending

So maybe you have a point

The only reason Newcastle looked so good last week was because Melbourne were atrocious. They put no pressure on the players, their man-marking was awful, their first touches were abysmal and the passing was terrible. Add to that the fact that they played half an hour with ten men, I would've been shocked if Newcastle hadn't dominated the game.

sydney eagle

24-10-2008, 10:51 AM

I think any of the top four or five A-League clubs could give Palace a run for their money over two legs.

I'll have whatever drugs you're on

sydney eagle

24-10-2008, 10:53 AM

The A-League is English League 1 at very best.

Most if not all starting Palace XI players would be "marquee" players in the A-League.

Have a look at how well Charlie Miller is going this season, he would be nowhere near getting a game for Palace.

The A-League is alright for entertainment, but technically it is sh1te. If you watch the Saturday night games as they lead into the Premier League matches its like comparing an under 11s side full of handicapped kids with a professional football team.

a few voices of reason,thank goodness

Men At Work

24-10-2008, 11:11 AM

I'll have whatever drugs you're on

To be fair I've seen a few Palace games where my old team (Koonawarra under 14s) could have beaten them.

oz_da II

24-10-2008, 01:17 PM

Milligan at fault for the goal tonight. :clown:

sydney eagle

25-10-2008, 09:27 AM

aloisi scores to make it 2-0 to sydney in melbourne and chants of "melbourne melbourne whats the score" coming through nice and clear on tele :g

oz_da II

25-10-2008, 11:26 AM

Good to hear :p

ozzieEagle

25-10-2008, 11:58 AM

Been back home for a while now.

Biggest game of the season, and possibly the worst performance of the season.

I'm sure I've seen many worse Palace games, I reckon thats just about the Worst MV performance I've seen.

PHUCK IT.

Still eat your heart out rest of the A league,..... 32,000 ;)

Cant wait till Swan St Opens.

F...ing bast..rd cu..nts wouldnt let me sit in my Normal South end Seat tonight.

I reckon thats why we lost.

:afro:

Men At Work

25-10-2008, 12:23 PM

Still eat your heart out rest of the A league,..... 32,000 ;)

Cool. How many extra league points do you get for that?

Surfside

25-10-2008, 02:49 PM

For those who claimed the A-League was anywhere near Championship standard, just watch tonights match. 1st vs 2nd, and it was woeful. There were passes going astray left, right and centre for both teams, shocking decision making very few chances created. Simply an awful game, the highlight being the final whistle to signify I could stop watching such tripe.

Surfside

25-10-2008, 03:58 PM

Also nice to see the good old Vic Police over-reacting and using capsicum spray on people for jay-walking, calling them "sokkah ****" etc

ozzieEagle

25-10-2008, 08:06 PM

Cool. How many extra league points do you get for that?

The buzz the crowd creates makes the whole debacle just a tad more enjoyable,

Or put another way, people are more likely to go again, because of the Atmosphere.

Still people arent going to put up with this rubbish indefinitely. That performance was Perthetic and look at the crowds they get.

I cannot for the life of me work out why MV didnt use the wings last night, they were like an open Highway.

sydney eagle

26-10-2008, 06:07 AM

Also nice to see the good old Vic Police over-reacting and using capsicum spray on people for jay-walking, calling them "sokkah ****" etc

I've heard numerous reports from the past few years about the coppers down there.They sound like the most ignorant/arrogant tossers on the force...and I live in QUEENSLAND,home of the crooked coppers

ozzieEagle

26-10-2008, 06:21 AM

I've heard numerous reports from the past few years about the coppers down there.They sound like the most ignorant/arrogant tossers on the force...and I live in QUEENSLAND,home of the crooked coppers

Generally they aren't too bad.

They dont like Football fans though.

philaire

28-10-2008, 05:45 AM

FFS

http://au.fourfourtwo.com/news/87715,breeze-on-road-to-south-africa.aspx

Surfside

29-10-2008, 01:40 AM

FFS

http://au.fourfourtwo.com/news/87715,breeze-on-road-to-south-africa.aspx

What is the world coming to? I'd rather have had Helen Keller ref the matches

Men At Work

29-10-2008, 02:09 AM

On the bright side he won't be reffing any Aus matches. And he could give a really bad decision that sends England home :g

Surfside

31-10-2008, 05:42 AM

He won't get anywhere near an England match. He'll be lucky to be 4th official for Costa Rica vs Saudi Arabia in the group stages

steve hail

31-10-2008, 05:55 AM

The A-League is English League 1 at very best.

Most if not all starting Palace XI players would be "marquee" players in the A-League.

Have a look at how well Charlie Miller is going this season, he would be nowhere near getting a game for Palace.

Oh, you jest, surely?

And I love them, but marquee players? Don't make me laugh.

I won't name names, but there are maybe three Palace players who might be marquee players in the A-League.

steve hail

31-10-2008, 05:56 AM

oz_da II

31-10-2008, 06:57 AM

Oh, you jest, surely?

And I love them, but marquee players? Don't make me laugh.

I won't name names, but there are maybe three Palace players who might be marquee players in the A-League.

I'll name names.

Speroni, Watson, Carle, Fonte, Lee, Moses, Beattie, Watson, Oster, Hill are all better than the marquee players in the A-League.

Marquee players: Moore, Agostino, Thompson, Aloisi, Zuma. Apart from Moore (a bit old anyway) none of these players would get a game for Palace.

Adelaide's most important player couldn't get a game for Brighton...

Were you at the Adelaide vs Perth game on the weekend? Woeful, I've seen higher standards in the Conference.

oz_da II

31-10-2008, 06:58 AM

Leeds United are League 1

Yes they are...

oz_da II

31-10-2008, 08:20 AM

Hehehe, Lopez...

"Stop your jibber-jabber, you ain't hurt", S Hill :g

oz_da II

31-10-2008, 09:52 AM

Look what happens when they bring Sarkies on. :clown:

Blatantly obvious that they needed to get Cornflakes off...

sydney eagle

31-10-2008, 09:57 AM

Yes they are...

I'm not sure why he mentioned them either

oz_da II

31-10-2008, 10:00 AM

After all the plaudits for Vidmar this week he has come crashing back to Earth with a huge thump. That was abysmal.

steve hail

31-10-2008, 11:10 AM

I don't think Vidmar is a great coach either. I was at the match tonight, and Adelaide looked very tired, but should still have won. Idiotic penalty give-aways, especially Cornthwaite's one.

I mentioned Leeds because recently they gave us (Palace) a thorough hiding.

Agostino may be a 'marquee' player, but he isn't in the best 16 Adelaide players. Too old.

Most of those players would get a game for Palace - Archie Thompson particularly at the moment. I used to watch Palace at SP regularly while they were in the CCC, and believe me it isn't the high level of football you might imagine.

Possible marquee players from Palace would be Watson, Carle and Moses - although in fact neither Ben Watson nor Victor Moses yet have the necessary reputations.

Speroni no because goalies are never marquee players.

Men At Work

31-10-2008, 11:28 AM

Most of those players would get a game for Palace - Archie Thompson particularly at the moment. I used to watch Palace at SP regularly while they were in the CCC, and believe me it isn't the high level of football you might imagine.

Most of us here have seen Palace play in recent years. Some of us even went to Preston away in 2000 which is the worst performance I've ever seen from a so-called professional team (and I've watched a few Hartlepool games :moo: )

Possible marquee players from Palace would be Watson, Carle and Moses - although in fact neither Ben Watson nor Victor Moses yet have the necessary reputations.

They'd still be better than the majority of the domestic players, though. I want to see the local game grow and while the skills are there in flashes they are not consistently present. That's the difference between the lower leagues and the top flight.

ozzieEagle

31-10-2008, 11:42 AM

That was possibly the most exciting MVictory game I've seen.

Far more Tension than the Final.

Hardly ever see a boring Adelaide v MV game.

The only nagging worry, is there should not be the type of contrast in successive games. The difference in performance for Melbourne V Sydney last week is so typically A league.

See you in the Finals :p

steve hail

31-10-2008, 12:31 PM

I've lived in Adelaide for nearly 10 years, and we don't all hate Victorians by the way. It was a good match.

Alemao was shocking however. I hardly saw him break into a sweat. No wonder Victory won the midfield battle. Hopefully once the ACL is over, he will be safely out of the side. Diego Walsh is 50 times better. It would have been better to have Sarkies playing, or Valkanis and Costanzo in midfield, or anyone.

I am hoarse from shouting at him to run around a bit.

Well - maybe he will prove me wrong in the future.

I was proved wrong at one stage tonight. Fed up with Cassio blasting free kicks over the bar, there I am shouting for someone else, anyone else to have a go, and he does a David Beckham with it.

Men At Work

31-10-2008, 12:43 PM

I've lived in Adelaide for nearly 10 years, and we don't all hate Victorians by the way.

What's wrong with you? :confused:

steve hail

31-10-2008, 01:07 PM

Well, I wouldn't want to live in Melbourne, but it's not that bad.

I used to live in Luton though, so I'm not fussy I guess.

oz_da II

31-10-2008, 03:50 PM

Most of those players would get a game for Palace - Archie Thompson particularly at the moment. I used to watch Palace at SP regularly while they were in the CCC, and believe me it isn't the high level of football you might imagine.

I gave 7 years "service" at Selhurst Park, so I'm well aware of the level of football.

There isn't one player in the Adelaide squad who would get a game for a top English Championship XI so how you think they would give a top English Championship club side a "run for their money" over a two leg fixture is beyond me...

Skid Row

31-10-2008, 08:10 PM

I hope that diving cheat Cristiano gets a couple of weeks. That was a disgrace.

Skid Row

31-10-2008, 08:13 PM

Here is the opening paragragh from Soccernet on the Adelaide v Victory game

Ireland have withstood a late charge from Australia to win Friday night's second International Rules Test by four points at the MCG.

http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/report?id=253245&cc=3436&league=AUS.1

:clown:

oz_da II

31-10-2008, 10:13 PM

I hope that diving cheat Cristiano gets a couple of weeks. That was a disgrace.

How's that going to happen?

Brett

31-10-2008, 10:50 PM

What's happened to the standard of defending this season?

ozzieEagle

31-10-2008, 11:04 PM

How's that going to happen?

The very least that should happen, is Adelaide fine him.

That was way out of order.

oz_da II

31-10-2008, 11:34 PM

The very least that should happen, is Adelaide fine him.

That was way out of order.

Would that be a world first?

Dowie fined Sandor for diving but that was an unsuccessful dive.

steve hail

01-11-2008, 12:19 AM

Fine Cristiano for diving only if you will also fine our beloved ex-player Kevin Musc-rat for chasing Travis Dodd around and trying to kick him.

I do think Adelaide on their day could give Palace (who are not currently a top CCC side - alas) a run for their money on a good day (for Adelaide). On a good day, Adelaide are well organised and work for each other as a team. And I think Galekovitch, Costanzo, Cassio, Diego (so missed last night), Pantelis and Dodd are not far off being CCC players. The problem is a lack of strength in depth. I certainly think they are worth a place in the Notts Forest side, the Blackpool side or the Leeds side. But then Forest, 'Pool and Leeds would never have a chance against Palace would they?

Leeds of course had hardly any players who would make the Palace side and beat us 4-0 not all that long ago.

And by the way, I think Tony's mum is totally charming and in no way a bitch.

oz_da II

01-11-2008, 09:02 AM

Costanzo? He's as old as me! Simple fact is if he was good enough he would have had a run somewhere in Europe, never happened.

Cassio is too slow, Diego maybe.

Galeković - see Costanzo

Surfside

01-11-2008, 04:31 PM

I'm sorry Mr Hail, but as entertaining as the game was on Friday, the standard was woeful. And that was pretty much as good as the A-League has gotten this year. Pass completion would've been only a little better than 50%, the goals came from three penalties, a free kick that in all reality should've been saved and a three yard tap in assisted by a marvellously shinned bicycle kick.

The A-League is technically awful, perhaps an A-league team performing at its peak could test a championship side, but if you put any of them into a league such as the championship they'd be relegated by Christmas. Archie Thompson wouldn't get a game at Palace, and he's supposed to be one of the best in the league.

I've watched a truckload of A-league, and a whole heap of Palace over recent years, and the difference between the two leagues is huge. Don't buy into this whole Bosnich "the A-league is great" crap, because that's just what it is.

And as for the worst performance by a professional football team ever, look no further than Perth against Melbourne about a month ago. Melbourne were terrible and still won by 4 goals.

I love the A-League, its entertaining and all that, but by God the standard is awful.

steve hail

02-11-2008, 12:03 PM

...and yet returning players from Europe generally don't shine when they get here...

Maidstoned Eagle

02-11-2008, 12:33 PM

I watched some A-League whilst on holiday the other week, one thing that amazed me (apart from the amount of ex-Palace players) was the dreadful standard of refereeing.

Surfside

02-11-2008, 03:34 PM

...and yet returning players from Europe generally don't shine when they get here...

why do they come back? cos they're sh1te.

Surfside

02-11-2008, 03:35 PM

I watched some A-League whilst on holiday the other week, one thing that amazed me (apart from the amount of ex-Palace players) was the dreadful standard of refereeing.

Oh yes, the poor standard of the play is nothing compared to the refereeing. Every ref in this country learnt everything they know from Helen Keller

Skid Row

02-11-2008, 06:17 PM

What is it with you and Helen Keller?

philaire

02-11-2008, 09:51 PM

2313

I love the A-League, its entertaining and all that, but by God the standard is awful.But everything is relative. What a surprise that it's going to suffer by comparison with the rest of the football on our TV screens. I would say look where we have come from - 20+ years of the NSL which, aside from the heady early years and TMAB's wistful memories of Melbourne Knights, tested one's patience immeasurably more than the A-league, with tawdry attendances, inferior playing standard and the regular onset of ethnic tensions. Be thankful we've moved on. A fair distance from there to the 50,000 at the Mel-Syd game two years back. Club football in this country is gradually pulling itself up by its bootstraps; it isn't going to become CCC standard overnight, but with very careful limited expansion to 10 or 12 clubs and thoughtful administration it has a solid future.

philaire

02-11-2008, 09:53 PM

Oh yes, the poor standard of the play is nothing compared to the refereeing.Did anyone else think that "Australia's best ref" Matthew Breeze might have done slightly better in adjudging the Cristiano "incident"?

oz_da II

02-11-2008, 11:15 PM

Nope. Looked like a clear cut penalty in real time. Both commentators called it and me and a mate initially said so as well. You can only tell it was a dive on the replay in slow motion.

It was a very good dive.

philaire

02-11-2008, 11:25 PM

Nope. Looked like a clear cut penalty in real time. Both commentators called it and me and a mate initially said so as well.But you, your mate, me, Hill and Slater weren't less than 10 metres away. As far as I could tell, Breeze had an unimpeded view and was well positioned.

oz_da II

03-11-2008, 12:43 AM

I think he was more than 10 metres away. It was a perfectly timed dive, Vargas' leg goes out and Cristiano goes down, he couldn't have timed it any better. I think the only way he could not have called the penalty would be based on Cristiano's reputation as a diver before hand, can't see him getting another one anytime soon and that's fair enough.

Surfside

03-11-2008, 01:03 AM

What is it with you and Helen Keller?

I watched that South Park episode the other day, and it seemed appropriate

Surfside

03-11-2008, 01:04 AM

Did anyone else think that "Australia's best ref" Matthew Breeze might have done slightly better in adjudging the Cristiano "incident"?

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for that one. It was a good dive

Men At Work

05-11-2008, 11:59 AM

Adelaide may find it hard to lord the ACL over people at this rate...

Surfside

05-11-2008, 01:00 PM

Bl Adelaide.........................Bahahahhahahahaha hahahahahahahaaha

philaire

05-11-2008, 08:23 PM

Gamba very, very good last night against a tired looking Adelaide. 3-0 looked a fair reflection of proceedings. A miracle at Hindmarsh looking very long odds indeed.

IW_Eagle

07-11-2008, 11:21 PM

Boys,

Roar Vs. Melbourne today.

TonysMumsabitch & sydney eagle in attendance.

Surfside are you in attendance?

Catch you later...

Surfside

07-11-2008, 11:26 PM

I wish I was, but I'm going to Perth next month instead. Other than that I'm saving for finals. Maybe next year.

Surfside

07-11-2008, 11:27 PM

Oh, and bahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha at Sh1tney last night.

hughff

08-11-2008, 04:22 AM

Said it before and I'll say it again: Sydney is the Phoenix's bitch.

philaire

08-11-2008, 05:10 AM

Said it before and I'll say it again: Sydney is the Phoenix's bitch.LOL! Popo wasn't too happy after he conceded the penalty.

ozzieEagle

08-11-2008, 05:58 AM

LOL! Popo wasn't too happy after he conceded the penalty.

That first half yesterday was really bad. I'm having trouble spotting which team actually plays the worst.

Thanks Wellington :p

Surfside

09-11-2008, 02:36 AM

Archie Thompson de de de de de

Beer on the ceiling, beer on the walls, beer on the floor, broken glass everywhere, everyone moshing, season 1 chants rekindled.......ah, the Dickens

sydney eagle

09-11-2008, 02:55 AM

Firstly,sorry Rich,My phone died last night so I couldn't text you back

Secondly I have heard for years how "amazing" the melbourne away support is and how many travel..well last night there were about 25 away fans.To be fair to them though they did sing all night.

I also notice Phil hasn't mentioned the refereeing this week as his team got every single decision last night.It was ludicrous how easily the victory players went down and got free kicks yet were clattering into the qld players and getting away with it. At the end of the day QLD pathetic shooting cost them dearly once again,the game should have been over by HT,the second half melbourne came into it much more and were the better side.

Charlie Miller can read a game,you could see what he wanted to do and his passing was pretty good but didn't always match his quality vision.

van Dijk has to be the laziest player I've ever seen

was Murdocca number 8? He was quality and so bloody fast. QLD's best player last night.

Surfside

09-11-2008, 03:09 AM

philaire

09-11-2008, 09:12 PM

I also notice Phil hasn't mentioned the refereeing this week.It was another big round for referees but you'll find that except in the minds of Roar supporters Syd, the Qld-Mel game was the least contentious :) Kossie throwing his toys out of the pram on Friday night and then the quite amazing brain explosion from the normally mild-mannered Gary Van Egmond in Perth last night. And although the Perth player in his sights (Trinidad) is known for diving, Van Egmond got it spectacularly wrong this time round; it was a clear cut penalty and Trinidad barely needed to milk it. In the same game, our mate Matthew Breeze made a very big man of himself yet again with two straight reds.

kayjay

10-11-2008, 12:16 AM

Indeed curious about how Breeze would have dealt with Tiatto's two footed
challenge on 11 minutes???

philaire

10-11-2008, 01:31 AM

Indeed curious about how Breeze would have dealt with Tiatto's two footed
challenge on 11 minutes??? There'd scarcely be any doubt about that. Breeze's red card would have been out even before Tiatto made contact. Just about time for the veteran to retire methinks. As for Breeze, you'd think he was on a bonus for every red he brandishes.

steve hail

10-11-2008, 05:47 AM

We are insane in this country. Tiny squads, yet no help at all for Adelaide prior to the final, and even now (with only the bare bones of the squad vaguely fit) a useful player can't play in the ACL final second leg because he is playing for Australia Under 19s!!!!!!!!!!

Under bloody 19s.

Insane.

IW_Eagle

10-11-2008, 06:05 AM

Firstly,sorry Rich,My phone died last night so I couldn't text you back

No worries - one of those things. I never met up with TonysMumsabitch either as they headed to the Pado, could not be arsed to walk there what with the rain etc.

Next time...

Game passed me by as it does most weeks, just end up drinking and chatting with mates. It is poor at times.