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oz_da II

04-02-2009, 04:40 AM

Hmmm... has struggled with the likes of Cardiff; he's not going to get better service with the Townsville club...

That would be his only worry, can only imagine the damage he'd do against defences comprised of the likes of Cornflakes, that long haired lout from Sydney and Hayden Foxe.

Surfside

04-02-2009, 10:01 AM

Hope he likes heat and humidty.

Surely that would have to affect him, having been brought up in the UK all his life, far more than Aussie born and breds, or Latinos and Meditteraneans. I can't see him performing well until he acclimatises.

How often do these footballers train a week ?

A-leag clubs train? That's news to me :clown:

philaire

04-02-2009, 10:34 AM

Hayden Foxe.Sacked by the Glory last week I believe.

And Ljubo's off to the Jets (http://au.fourfourtwo.com/news/95578,ljubo-joins-the-jets.aspx). Good luck there.

Meanwhile, although all the clubs still appear bound to Reebok, there's some hope we'll see some move away (http://au.fourfourtwo.com/news/95534,aleagues-new-strips-revolution.aspx) from the one-shirt-fits-all house style next season.

oz_da II

04-02-2009, 10:38 AM

I remember when he signed for Wet Sham was going to be a big star...
What a dud of a career.

Ok, replace Foxe with Thwaite.

philaire

04-02-2009, 08:29 PM

I remember when he signed for Wet Sham was going to be a big star...
What a dud of a career.To be fair, he's not had the best run injury-wise.

crystaljim

04-02-2009, 08:43 PM

In a week where several average performers have taken big money to go play for clubs in Asia at the same skill level or lower than they already have. His signing is good news.

oz_da II

05-02-2009, 07:00 AM

This is funny.

UNREPENTANT Adelaide United last night dismissed arch-rival Melbourne Victory's anger over the signing of Blackburn Rovers star Rostyn Griffiths for the A-League finals series.

It is believed an outraged Victory hierarchy has officially registered its disappointment with the A-League.

Blackburn Rovers star... :eek:

I was fairly confident he hadn't yet appeared for Blackburn Rovers, a quick google and he's been out on loan playing for Accrington Stanley.

Uproar over a player plying his trade with Accrington Stanley, hilarious. :clown:

philaire

05-02-2009, 08:57 AM

This is funny.

Blackburn Rovers star... :eek:

I was fairly confident he hadn't yet appeared for Blackburn Rovers, a quick google and he's been out on loan playing for Accrington Stanley.

Uproar over a player plying his trade with Accrington Stanley, hilarious. :clown:All the same, it does appear to smack of some desperation to be boosting your squad at this stage of the season. Can't they beat Melbourne with their glittering ACL squad? At least it provides the element of surprise I suppose...

sydney eagle

05-02-2009, 09:09 AM

I played against hayden foxe for about 5 years during Youth league. He played for Blacktown city and was a striker at the time.He was head and shoulders above anyone else in our age group. Not sure how he ended up a defender tbh

oz_da II

05-02-2009, 12:06 PM

All the same, it does appear to smack of some desperation to be boosting your squad at this stage of the season. Can't they beat Melbourne with their glittering ACL squad? At least it provides the element of surprise I suppose...

The glittering ACL squad is very deceiving.

No way Smeltz should have won the JW Medal/Award.
The most valuable player this year for any club has been Eugene G, easy.

TonysMumsabitch

05-02-2009, 11:10 PM

So fecking excited.

Road trip to Adelaide gets underway at 7pm tonight.

Surfside

06-02-2009, 12:19 AM

Now flying out at 7:10 tomorrow morning due to heat cancelling work.

Will be at the Rosemount from about 9:00, then the gov later on. Be there etc

TonysMumsabitch

06-02-2009, 12:49 AM

Now flying out at 7:10 tomorrow morning due to heat cancelling work.

Will be at the Rosemount from about 9:00, then the gov later on. Be there etc

See you at the Gov mate.

:afro:

Surfside

06-02-2009, 12:51 AM

Will do. Who would have thought one of the biggest weekends ever would be in Adelaide....

oz_da II

06-02-2009, 12:52 AM

Now flying out at 7:10 tomorrow morning due to heat cancelling work.

Will be at the Rosemount from about 9:00, then the gov later on. Be there etc

Cricket will probably be cancelled so I should be able to make pre-games drinks.

Tickets finally arrived last night, sitting in the top tier in the South End, I believe that will be right above the away supporters.

:p

TonysMumsabitch

06-02-2009, 03:19 AM

^^

That is correct.

:D

All you will hear is MVFC support.

oz_da II

06-02-2009, 03:51 AM

All you'll hear from me and my mate is the bagging of and laughing at Cornflakes and Sarkies. :p

sydney eagle

06-02-2009, 08:38 AM

QLD 1-0 up after 30 mins,Mitch Nicholls the scorer

sydney eagle

06-02-2009, 09:40 AM

Tiatto sent off yet again. I thought the second yellow wasn't bad at all but the first one was disgusting and should have been a straight red so I guess it evened out

2-0 to QLD with 15 to go

philaire

06-02-2009, 09:42 AM

75 mins: Tiatto finally receives the red card he deserved in the first half. When he retires they should rename the two-footed tackle after him.

oz_da II

06-02-2009, 11:07 PM

I see Tiatto overdosed on the angry pills last night.

What a vile little man.

philaire

06-02-2009, 11:47 PM

I see Tiatto overdosed on the angry pills last night.

What a vile little man.Interesting contrast with Muscat. Maybe I'm just looking through Victory-coloured glasses, but Muscat has mellowed a little in his old age. Yes, he's still very capable of crunching tackles and the odd-underhanded bit of jiggery-pokery, but in my view he's no longer a thug, as he was back in his Wolves and Millwall (but not Palace of course) days.

But for mine, Tiatto simply remains a grade-A thug. His two-footed numbers this season look exactly the same as the ones he was authoring at Man City.

Newozeagle

07-02-2009, 04:25 AM

but in my view he's no longer a thug, as he was back in his Wolves and Millwall (but not Palace of course) days.
.

Glad to see even you can be completely unreasonable Phil:lux:

Skid Row

07-02-2009, 09:55 AM

The A League has almost finished it's 4th season. Has there ever been a player bought by an A League club or have they all been loans and free transfers?

philaire

07-02-2009, 10:10 AM

Melb very, very good tonight. Hernandez superb. Adelaide seriously in need of a decent striker. No Dodd, no Adelaide. Sad to see Agostino's career peter out this way.

Surfside

07-02-2009, 10:29 PM

Adelaide were shit. Archie should've had two, Hernandez should have had another one, and Allsopp should've had another. In all reality it could easily have been 6-0 again

Surfside

07-02-2009, 10:31 PM

The A League has almost finished it's 4th season. Has there ever been a player bought by an A League club or have they all been loans and free transfers?

Not much money in the transfer kitties, plus A-league teams can't buy players from other A-league clubs, so there wouldn't be many. Most would have been purchased from their state league clubs I'd imagine though

oz_da II

07-02-2009, 11:37 PM

Adelaide's performance was on par with England's performance in the cricket.

Jamieson and Eugene G the only one's who could hold their heads up.

oz_da II

08-02-2009, 06:14 AM

Allslopp is a fist class clown.

Tries to claim the first goal than does the classless goal celebration of "hushing the crowd". He's a dickhead.

Surfside

08-02-2009, 06:35 AM

Allslopp is a fist class clown.

Tries to claim the first goal than does the classless goal celebration of "hushing the crowd". He's a dickhead.

How was he supposed to know the first one crossed the line, it was close and the ref didn't call it straight away. Second one, I don't think they needed much hushing, they didn't make a sound all night :D

And think what you like of him, he's the only bloke in the league this season with 11 goals from open play.

oz_da II

08-02-2009, 06:37 AM

I'd have some respect for him if he played with some class, especially after his non-performance in the green and gold.

sydney eagle

08-02-2009, 07:42 AM

Adelaide's performance was on par with England's performance in the cricket.

.

Been watching the aussies this summer??

oz_da II

08-02-2009, 07:52 AM

Been watching the aussies this summer??

Plenty, as bad as it has been at least they have a go.

philaire

08-02-2009, 10:34 AM

I'd have some respect for him if he played with some class, especially after his non-performance in the green and gold.You are very wide of the mark with this one. Allsopp has never pretended to be the world's sharpest, most skilful striker, and if he was, he wouldn't be playing in the A-league, would he? As for the green and gold, blame Pim, not Allsopp. I wouldn't have picked him for that game, but then I wouldn't have gone for Pim's A-league strategy for that game either.

I respect him because he plies his trade quietly and effectively, without any of the dickhead traits of plenty of others in the league (Joel Griffiths for example). As for your other criticisms, do you think he would have been better off deliberately avoiding that header on the basis that the ref and lino were definitely going to rule Hernandez strike over the line? And if you bag him for his celebration after that clinical second goal, you'd have to throw in the majority of players in England and elsewhere who do exactly the same.

oz_da II

08-02-2009, 10:38 AM

And if you bag him for his celebration after that clinical second goal, you'd have to throw in the majority of players in England and elsewhere who do exactly the same.

Yes, I'll bag anyone who does that.
Is it asking too much to show a bit of class?

oz_da II

08-02-2009, 10:42 AM

As for your other criticisms, do you think he would have been better off deliberately avoiding that header on the basis that the ref and lino were definitely going to rule Hernandez strike over the line?

Make sure of course but he knew it was over the line, go over and congratulate the offside Hernandez instead of opening your arms in glory like he's scored the goal.

Any one find it interesting that the first goal scored by the Victory would be a mistake by a linesman after the cricticism he gave them mid-week?

Skid Row

08-02-2009, 06:13 PM

Greg, your anti Victorian stance is getting boring.

oz_da II

08-02-2009, 09:23 PM

No complaints if they played with a bit of class.
Telling a crowd to "be quiet" when they were already quiet as a mouse is piss weak.

philaire

08-02-2009, 11:23 PM

No complaints if they played with a bit of class.
Telling a crowd to "be quiet" when they were already quiet as a mouse is piss weak.So that means best not to win at all if you're not going to win in a so-called classy manner, characterised it seems by not celebrating in such an unseemly manner. Ogenovski very "classy" early on. Might have been better if he concentrated on defending.

oz_da II

08-02-2009, 11:48 PM

So that means best not to win at all if you're not going to win in a so-called classy manner.

No, I just don't see what the point was in telling the crowd to be quiet. Makes him look like an idiot.

Ogenovski very "classy" early on. Might have been better if he concentrated on defending.

Yes, his mind might be on Korea. Who knows what the minds of the other 8 clowns were on...

kayjay

09-02-2009, 12:41 AM

So, sounds like you're on the Victory bandwagon now Oz_da?

crystaljim

09-02-2009, 12:43 AM

Back to Tiatto, we may have pulled one back if he was given the straight red he deserved, but as we can't hit a cows arse with a banjo right now, i doubt it.
Having said that we will win 3-1 in Suncorp and go through on away goals :hi:

oz_da II

09-02-2009, 12:43 AM

So, sounds like you're on the Victory bandwagon now Oz_da?

Yeah, right after I jump off the Manure bandwagon. :clown: :D

oz_da II

09-02-2009, 12:45 AM

Back to Tiatto, we may have pulled one back if he was given the straight red he deserved, but as we can't hit a cows arse with a banjo right now, i doubt it.
Having said that we will win 3-1 in Suncorp and go through on away goals :hi:

More dark days ahead, I fear, for your mob jim...

Couldn't sign anyone but Kwasnik (http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,25024869-5000940,00.html)

philaire

09-02-2009, 01:59 AM

Barring your miracle jim, Queensland must be a good bet to get past Adelaide and face Melbourne in the final.

ozzieEagle

09-02-2009, 03:13 AM

Barring your miracle jim, Queensland must be a good bet to get past Adelaide and face Melbourne in the final.

Yes I'm getting bored watching Melbourne crap all over Adelaide. Although watching away wins live makes a fantastic change. I hope it is a MV v Qld final.

Pity I never caught up with TMIAB and Surfside at the Gov, we were sitting outside.

I'm definitely going to Sydney next year.

TonysMumsabitch

09-02-2009, 03:26 AM

Allslopp is a fist class clown.

Tries to claim the first goal than does the classless goal celebration of "hushing the crowd". He's a dickhead.

:rolleyes:

Hushing the crowd against your rivals when you score at their home end is exactly what every MVFC would have wanted.

oz_da II

09-02-2009, 03:52 AM

I thought every MVFC fan would have wanted flares thrown on to the ground.

philaire

09-02-2009, 03:59 AM

I thought every MVFC fan would have wanted flares thrown on to the ground.United does it at T Dome, Victory does it at Hindmarsh. Nice equilibrium.

oz_da II

09-02-2009, 04:13 AM

An equilibrium of moronity.

TonysMumsabitch

09-02-2009, 04:33 AM

Meh.

http://photos-a.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-snc1/v2270/17/74/604794894/n604794894_1413712_9705.jpg

Looks awesome.

:afro:

ozzieEagle

09-02-2009, 04:47 AM

Heres the youtube highlites....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENSmCRSTJyI

TonysMumsabitch

09-02-2009, 05:00 AM

oz_da - how you can possibly bag Allsopp for celebrating when it wasn't certain at the time if Hernandez's shot had crossed is proof of how full of shit you are.

oz_da II

09-02-2009, 05:11 AM

oz_da - how you can possibly bag Allsopp for celebrating when it wasn't certain at the time if Hernandez's shot had crossed is proof of how full of shit you are.

It was obvious to everyone it was over the line, as I said before by all means make sure it goes in the net (given how terrible the officiating is) but claiming it as your's is weak. Go over and congratulate the offside Hernandez for a nice strike instead of running in the opposite direction with your arms aloft soaking in the applause.

TonysMumsabitch

09-02-2009, 05:18 AM

It was obvious to everyone it was over the line, as I said before by all means make sure it goes in the net (given how terrible the officiating is) but claiming it as your's is weak. Go over and congratulate the offside Hernandez for a nice strike instead of running in the opposite direction with your arms aloft soaking in the applause.

So in those split seconds when Allsopp is running 100 miles an hour at the goals, he's supposed to know that it's crossed the line?

Pull ya fecking head in.

Allsopp is the best team man at the club, selfless and humble.

oz_da II

09-02-2009, 05:29 AM

Allsopp is the best team man at the club, selfless and humble.

A humble player doesn't indicate to a crowd to "keep quiet" when that same crowd was probably cheering him on the week before, especially after that performance he provided those fans with whilst wearing the green and gold.

ozzieEagle

09-02-2009, 05:31 AM

So in those split seconds when Allsopp is running 100 miles an hour at the goals, he's supposed to know that it's crossed the line?

Pull ya fecking head in.

Allsopp is the best team man at the club, selfless and humble.

I'd call him almost shy. Everytime my Daughter and her Freind have chatted with him in the Victory room, he goes a shade of red. Even manages to blush when my Missus and her freind have a chat with him.

Very polite bloke, I hate hearing MV fans bagging him, I cannot think of a more dedicated team player that I've personally encountered.

oz_da II

09-02-2009, 05:31 AM

So in those split seconds when Allsopp is running 100 miles an hour at the goals, he's supposed to know that it's crossed the line?

Pull ya fecking head in.

Take a zero of that hundred... ;)

Well that's what I would have done, I defintely would not have completely ignored Hernandez.

TonysMumsabitch

09-02-2009, 05:39 AM

A humble player doesn't indicate to a crowd to "keep quiet" when that same crowd was probably cheering him on the week before, especially after that performance he provided those fans with whilst wearing the green and gold.

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/9420/motivator69486241863597az4.jpg

oz_da II

09-02-2009, 06:22 AM

On a different note.

I do think Adelaide on their day could give Palace a run for their money on a good day (for Adelaide). On a good day, Adelaide are well organised and work for each other as a team. And I think Galekovitch, Costanzo, Cassio, Diego, Pantelis and Dodd are not far off being CCC players.

This bloke has been quiet lately... :clown:

Skid Row

09-02-2009, 06:37 PM

It was obvious to everyone it was over the line
It wasnt to Allsopp. In the interview after the game he mentioned he was in the right place to score the first.

Skid Row

09-02-2009, 06:38 PM

Looks awesome.

:afro:
Looks pathetic.

TonysMumsabitch

09-02-2009, 07:23 PM

Sorry, next time we'll try to look and sound as boring and official as the rest of the league.

Skid Row

10-02-2009, 06:14 PM

Sorry, next time we'll try to look and sound as boring and official as the rest of the league.
You know you're the best fans, the flares dont do anything to enhance it. The only thing it does is spoil the good work you do.

TonysMumsabitch

10-02-2009, 10:36 PM

Don't really give two hoots about flares per se, but I still think they can sometimes have a good effect and enhance support. That photo above is tremendous, and not just because I'm in it. :D

philaire

10-02-2009, 11:56 PM

Don't really give two hoots about flares per se, but I still think they can sometimes have a good effect and enhance support. Contentious topic. Appear to be outlawed and a non-issue in the UK, but seemingly accepted as a normal part of the football landscape in Italy. Their illegality in Australia seems to provide the biggest spur for their use - "look what we naughty folk got away with". And good value when Simon Hill instantly gets on his high horse "there's no place for this in our game blah blah". I suppose there's a safety issue of sorts here, although I can't recall anyone injured by a flare at a football game in Australia. Certainly adds to the atmosphere.

Skid Row

11-02-2009, 12:41 AM

Flares went out in the 70's man. Phil would of looked suave in his.

TonysMumsabitch

11-02-2009, 01:22 AM

Contentious topic. Appear to be outlawed and a non-issue in the UK, but seemingly accepted as a normal part of the football landscape in Italy. Their illegality in Australia seems to provide the biggest spur for their use - "look what we naughty folk got away with". And good value when Simon Hill instantly gets on his high horse "there's no place for this in our game blah blah". I suppose there's a safety issue of sorts here, although I can't recall anyone injured by a flare at a football game in Australia. Certainly adds to the atmosphere.

If it means the club gets fined, or something along those lines, I am opposed. But on the whole they are harmless unless in the hands of idiots - which is sadly the case some of the time.

Will always be contentious. My position is one of neutrality, depending on the situation, etc.

ozzieEagle

11-02-2009, 01:34 AM

A bit of red and blue at the home final would be a laugh. How about the Nixon? Bottom of the steps at the end of the footbridge on the Bourke Street extension. Child friendly, decent outdoor area, etc.

Just to remind anyone thats interested. May get to see Newoz again, and perhaps Phil etc. Will be there from around 4.30 pm onwards.

As for the game on Saturday, I cannot see Adelaide performing that badly again. So it could be interesting, Adelaide obviously have to attack, do they have it in them to score an early goal, thus making the match tense. I hardly saw any sign of a goal threat from them last Saturday. There again complacency will probably be MV's biggest threat.

Can anyone confirm whether the FFA are going to change the actual final to a Saturday or not ?

oz_da II

11-02-2009, 01:39 AM

As for the game on Saturday, I cannot see Adelaide performing that badly again. So it could be interesting, Adelaide obviously have to attack, do they have it in them to score an early goal, thus making the match tense. I hardly saw any sign of a goal threat from them last Saturday.

When Agostino announced his retirement over the holidays it should have been with immediate effect. He has been anonymous. I really can't figure out why he gets a game.

Surfside

11-02-2009, 03:27 AM

Don't really give two hoots about flares per se, but I still think they can sometimes have a good effect and enhance support. That photo above is tremendous, and not just because I'm in it. :D

So's my hair

ozzieEagle

12-02-2009, 03:34 AM

I dont usually do bets, but I've a hunch, mostly based on 5 wins in a row seems a bit much, Adelaide could play totally differently to the previous meetings.

I notice that the odds are 13/1 at TAB Sports for a 2-0 win to Adelaide this Saturday.... It's that really good odds ? If Adelaide have any say or go this weekend I reckon thats the most likely full time result.

I dont want it to happen, I very rarely bet... last time being AJ to score the most goals in the Premier league...

I'm confident Melb would win on penalties, but from a purely betting perspective, do you reckon it's a good bet ?

oz_da II

12-02-2009, 03:55 AM

I dont usually do bets, but I've a hunch, mostly based on 5 wins in a row seems a bit much, Adelaide could play totally differently to the previous meetings.

I notice that the odds are 13/1 at TAB Sports for a 2-0 win to Adelaide this Saturday.... It's that really good odds ? If Adelaide have any say or go this weekend I reckon thats the most likely full time result.

I dont want it to happen, I very rarely bet... last time being AJ to score the most goals in the Premier league...

I'm confident Melb would win on penalties, but from a purely betting perspective, do you reckon it's a good bet ?

Only if you stuck a zero on the end of the 3. Adelaide are in disarray and are finally getting found out for the very average club that they've been all season.
They probably won't score, especially if Agostino starts.

ozzieEagle

12-02-2009, 04:18 AM

Only if you stuck a zero on the end of the 3. Adelaide are in disarray and are finally getting found out for the very average club that they've been all season.
They probably won't score, especially if Agostino starts.

Hmmm, still I may get a few under my belt tomorrow night and find myself putting 10 bucks on it.

I'm generally a lucky punter, just wished I'd have had AJ each way with my last way out bet.

Surfside

12-02-2009, 05:25 AM

Hahahahaha, Adelaide have scored 2 goals against Melbourne in 4 games, and one of those was a dodgy penalty. They haven't scored two in a game away from home since January 13, 2008......and that was a 3-2 loss to Perth at Member's equity stadium. In the history of the league, they have won by two goals away from home just once, and never by more.

philaire

12-02-2009, 05:35 AM

Hahahahaha, Adelaide have scored 2 goals against Melbourne in 4 games, and one of those was a dodgy penalty. They haven't scored two in a game away from home since January 13, 2008......and that was a 3-2 loss to Perth at Member's equity stadium.that's simply asking for trouble...

Men At Work

12-02-2009, 05:41 AM

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/02/12/2489951.htm

Socceroos full-back Scott Chipperfield says he is close to a deal to join Robbie Fowler at A-League new boys North Queensland next season.

Surfside

12-02-2009, 05:43 AM

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/02/12/2489951.htm

Socceroos full-back Scott Chipperfield says he is close to a deal to join Robbie Fowler at A-League new boys North Queensland next season.

About time they started signing some talent to mix with the absolute rubbish they've signed so far

ozzieEagle

12-02-2009, 05:54 AM

that's simply asking for trouble...

There's nothing more certain in sport, than the uncertainty of Football.

I'm hoping to make sure I get finacially rewarded, as to drown my sorrows, in the case of the unthinkable.

Jeezus I hope we get Qland or even CCM in the Final, I'm totally over Adelaide now.

These matches are exposing restrictions of the Aleague. The new teams appearing are just doing so in the nick of time. I'm sure repetition is the main reason attendances are down this year.

As for MV's attendances, they didnt help their cause in losing one of the most pathetic games I've ever seen, 0-2 against Sydney in what must have been the biggest first timers views at MV this season.

Newozeagle

12-02-2009, 11:23 AM

Just to remind anyone thats interested. May get to see Newoz again, and perhaps Phil etc. Will be there from around 4.30 pm onwards.

See you there Eddie

philaire

12-02-2009, 09:08 PM

Just to remind anyone thats interested. May get to see Newoz again, and perhaps Phil etc. Will be there from around 4.30 pm onwards.Will be at the game, but organising friends and family including French student staying with us so unfortunately won't make drinks. Look forward to the next time!

TonysMumsabitch

13-02-2009, 12:14 AM

I dont usually do bets, but I've a hunch, mostly based on 5 wins in a row seems a bit much, Adelaide could play totally differently to the previous meetings.

I notice that the odds are 13/1 at TAB Sports for a 2-0 win to Adelaide this Saturday.... It's that really good odds ? If Adelaide have any say or go this weekend I reckon thats the most likely full time result.

I dont want it to happen, I very rarely bet... last time being AJ to score the most goals in the Premier league...

I'm confident Melb would win on penalties, but from a purely betting perspective, do you reckon it's a good bet ?

Odds just for an Adelaide win were around $4.80 I heard last night.

They won't get near us though.

Surfside

14-02-2009, 12:39 PM

The usual 6-0 results over the inbreds, goodo. Bring on Queensland, at least they might give us a football match, not an extended training session. Fark me, Adelaide are shite

philaire

14-02-2009, 01:09 PM

Adelaide's season appears to be ending disastrously. Tonight was more about how bad united were rather than Melbourne being good. Cassio's ill-disciplined send off compounds their situation. It's hard to see Adelaide stopping queensland next week even with home advantage.

Surfside

14-02-2009, 01:34 PM

Oh, and Vidmar calling Adelaide "a piss-ant little town who will never win anything," made me chuckle

Raoul Duke

14-02-2009, 08:54 PM

Vidmar calling Adelaide "a piss-ant little town who will never win anything," made me chuckle

I don't think Vidmar needs to be giving opposition fans any more ammunition :)

Raoul Duke

14-02-2009, 08:59 PM

What's Vidmars actual problem with the club though?

I can only assume that this is down to several key members of the squad being told a few weeks ago that they won't be offered contracts for next season.

Surfside

15-02-2009, 12:33 AM

What's Vidmars actual problem with the club though?

I can only assume that this is down to several key members of the squad being told a few weeks ago that they won't be offered contracts for next season.

The bits I know are,

1. Vidmar has always preferred a more defensive style, the club has been "encouraging" him to play a style more attractive to fans, which as can be seen the last few weeks doesn't work.

2. The journalist who he kept saying "you know" to, printed Vidmar's tactics for last weeks game (the 2-0 loss) in the Adelaide advertiser before the match, after he got them from a certain player who may be going to the Jets

3. The point you mentioned about the key players being moved on.

I'm sure there's other stuff as well, but still, its hilarious

Footage here for anyone who wants to se it.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/video/0,,A-League_11019,00.html

Or audio for anyone who's not in Australia
http://sportal.com.au/mediaplayer/audio/Football/aurelio-vidmars-extraordinary-outburst-after-4593

ozzieEagle

15-02-2009, 01:16 AM

Odds just for an Adelaide win were around $4.80 I heard last night.

They won't get near us though.

I was more than happy to do my 10 bucks, only bought it at the last minute at the mobile tab stall at the ground.

Didn't see the Wee Red at the Nixon.... hopefully we didnt miss him, had a couple with Newoz.

Great night all in all, stood up the whole game in Aisle 43 which was a fantastic. Victory room after the game was rocking.

philaire

15-02-2009, 04:11 AM

Vidmar is a quality manager who Adelaide would do well to hold onto, as hopefully this will blow over for them. He's already apologised for the pissant stuff. In that context I think he's owed more than the likes of Kosmina and Farina, who mouth off at the first opportunity. And I'd say he has generally shown a more mature style then Van Egmond.

But Adelaide's demise has been remarkable and I think last night it all came home to roost for Vidmar. It would be amazing, almost impossible for them to rise above this and beat Queensland. If they did, Melbourne would have to guard against complacency since they have clearly had Adelaide's number.

Raoul Duke

15-02-2009, 06:46 AM

I followed Adelaides progress during the ACL but hadn't watched them play again until the two Victory games. I couldn't believe that it was the same Club.

Australians usually find chocking quite amusing but this is just getting sad.

ozeagle

15-02-2009, 08:57 AM

gents,
i'm looking at this from a punting perspective.
can queensland get over them next weekend?

ozzieEagle

15-02-2009, 09:04 AM

gents,
i'm looking at this from a punting perspective.
can queensland get over them next weekend?

Who knows, all of these A league teams, make Palace's erratic peformances look like a rock solid foundations :afro:

Surfside

15-02-2009, 09:45 AM

gents,
i'm looking at this from a punting perspective.
can queensland get over them next weekend?

Adelaide have no chance. They'll get hammered

Raoul Duke

15-02-2009, 10:04 AM

gents,
i'm looking at this from a punting perspective.
can queensland get over them next weekend?

Yes, the only doubt is whether you can get decent enough odds to warrant making a bet.

Men At Work

15-02-2009, 10:55 AM

A quote from 'The Guardian': Australian player Ljuobo Milicevic says he'll "impress the UK" after spending a year out of football. The ex FC Thun star was sacked by Melbourne Victory last year, but now wants a move to England. "For half a year I was a bit morose. I just sat around, ate chocolate and watched porn. I didn't do much at all really: I was all about chocolate and porn. But then I got a job gardening, and now I feel good. I know I can get a club in England."

:D

Oh shit, it'll be Palace, won't it? :eek:

ozzieEagle

15-02-2009, 11:40 AM

A quote from 'The Guardian': Australian player Ljuobo Milicevic says he'll "impress the UK" after spending a year out of football. The ex FC Thun star was sacked by Melbourne Victory last year, but now wants a move to England. "For half a year I was a bit morose. I just sat around, ate chocolate and watched porn. I didn't do much at all really: I was all about chocolate and porn. But then I got a job gardening, and now I feel good. I know I can get a club in England."

:D

Oh shit, it'll be Palace, won't it? :eek:

He also went to Gay Night clubs, then wondered why the rest of the MV players were giving him a bit of a hard time.

Apparently it was the only place he could be alone, and free.

Can you Imagine Kev M in the Showers LOL !!

Men At Work

15-02-2009, 11:51 AM

He also went to Gay Night clubs, then wondered why the rest of the MV players were giving him a bit of a hard time.

Apparently it was the only place he could be alone, and free.

Can you Imagine Kev M in the Showers LOL !!

Interestingly the paragraph above that in 'The Guardian' piece is: An ex-Hamburg SV youth star says he walked away from football because "being gay made me worthless". "I just felt ridiculous among other footballers. But why? It wasn't my problem. And I wasn't standing there in the shower and thinking about doing them all. I never had to leave the shower early because I had a situation down below, for instance. It wasn't a problem – but I was made to feel it was. Football is terribly backward."

Sadly it appear MV are no different from most other clubs. It's a real shame Ian Roberts never came out while he was playing as it could have had a major beneficial effect on sportspeople in this country.

I have no idea if he swings that way but it's the whole issue and reaction to it that disturbs me.

The Wee Red

15-02-2009, 11:54 AM

I was more than happy to do my 10 bucks, only bought it at the last minute at the mobile tab stall at the ground.

Didn't see the Wee Red at the Nixon.... hopefully we didnt miss him, had a couple with Newoz.

Great night all in all, stood up the whole game in Aisle 43 which was a fantastic. Victory room after the game was rocking.

Sorry Ozzie, we got there at 6.30. Nice result though.

Men At Work

15-02-2009, 11:59 AM

Sorry Ozzie, we got there at 6.30.

The BBS sporting weekend will probably be in Perth later this year. You, along with the other Vic-based people, should start negotiating with the S.O. for a weekend leave pass now. It would be nice to catch up with you again; I think Gillingham away in 2001 (lost 3-blot) was the last time I saw you.

ozzieEagle

15-02-2009, 12:33 PM

Interestingly the paragraph above that in 'The Guardian' piece is: An ex-Hamburg SV youth star says he walked away from football because "being gay made me worthless". "I just felt ridiculous among other footballers. But why? It wasn't my problem. And I wasn't standing there in the shower and thinking about doing them all. I never had to leave the shower early because I had a situation down below, for instance. It wasn't a problem – but I was made to feel it was. Football is terribly backward."

Sadly it appear MV are no different from most other clubs. It's a real shame Ian Roberts never came out while he was playing as it could have had a major beneficial effect on sportspeople in this country.

I have no idea if he swings that way but it's the whole issue and reaction to it that disturbs me.

He has problems this bloke, because I got my info from the MS magazine, which had a double page spread on him. In that article he denied being gay... saying he just went there as it was the only place he could be himself or some confusing statement, which made it look like he was definitely a bloke with a problem.

There must be successful gay footballers by now surely ?

Men At Work

15-02-2009, 12:50 PM

There must be successful gay footballers by now surely ?

The law of averages dictate that there's quite a few (in all forms of football): there just aren't any who have publicly outed themselves. Justin Fashanu is the only one in the UK I can recall who did and what happened to him is probably why no others have done the same.

ozzieEagle

16-02-2009, 10:47 AM

Things getting really interesting in Melbourne over the Venue...

This is from tomorrows Sun.

FOOTBALL and soccer are in pitched battle over who can use Telstra Dome on Saturday week. The AFL says it has the rights to the venue on February 28, and wants Collingwood to play Richmond, with Ben Cousins expected to make his Tigers debut, in a NAB Cup fixture.

But Football Federation Australia says it has set aside the stadium that night for the A-League grand final between Melbourne Victory and the winner of the Queensland Roar-Adelaide United preliminary final.

AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou told the Herald Sun his organisation had locked in the venue on that date when it released its NAB Cup fixture in October.

"At this stage we have a dilemma as it (the Collingwood-Richmond game) is due to fall on a Saturday night, which the Victory might be playing as well," Demetriou said.

"It could be Ben Cousins' first game, so there could be a dilemma there for all concerned. It is scheduled for Saturday night, Telstra Dome.

"It is in our fixture, and we put that NAB Cup draw out in October. So we will see what happens."

FFA chief executive Ben Buckley said he had received an assurance from Telstra Dome management that the A-League grand final would be played there on February 28.

"We have been advised from Telstra Dome that we can, and are able to play the match on that night," Buckley told the Herald Sun last night.

Asked if the AFL's stance was a sign of it going head-to-head against soccer, Demetriou said: "You're using those words.

"The MCG is not available. It's not about staking a claim, but we have got a booking priority (at Telstra Dome), under our agreement."

Told that FFA had announced Telstra Dome as the venue for the A-League grand final on that night, Demetriou said: "They are playing at a venue we normally play football at."

The MCG can not stage the NAB Cup match because drop-in wickets required for cricket would still be in place.

Telstra Dome chief executive Ian Collins could not be contacted, but the venue's communications manager Bill Lane said talks with the AFL were continuing.

"As far as we are concerned, we are still in communications with the AFL," Lane said.

"We would have thought staging the (NAB Cup) game on a Thursday night, or a Monday, would have been a reasonable outcome, and we think the matter can be resolved amicably."

Asked the stadium's preferred outcome on the standoff, Lane said: "We are aware the Football Federation has announced the game, the A-League grand final, will be played here on the Saturday, and we are happy with that announcement."

Telstra Dome management was convinced the AFL would move the Collingwood-Richmond match, but it is believed the AFL was asked by Channel 10 to keep it in its original timeslot.

Melbourne Victory's use of Telstra Dome has become part of legal action taken by the AFL against management of the Docklands venue.

Also crucial to that action was a decision by the venue management to name airline Etihad as the ground's new naming rights sponsor, because the AFL has Qantas as a major sponsor.

ozeagle

16-02-2009, 10:56 AM

2.45 Qld, worth a bet?

The Wee Red

16-02-2009, 11:23 AM

The BBS sporting weekend will probably be in Perth later this year. You, along with the other Vic-based people, should start negotiating with the S.O. for a weekend leave pass now. It would be nice to catch up with you again; I think Gillingham away in 2001 (lost 3-blot) was the last time I saw you.

That's one helluva a memory Graeme.I have blocked all my Gillingham away moments from ever returning to mind.

The Wee Red

16-02-2009, 11:30 AM

Things getting really interesting in Melbourne over the Venue...

This is from tomorrows Sun.

FOOTBALL and soccer are in pitched battle over who can use Telstra Dome on Saturday week. The AFL says it has the rights to the venue on February 28, and wants Collingwood to play Richmond, with Ben Cousins expected to make his Tigers debut, in a NAB Cup fixture.

But Football Federation Australia says it has set aside the stadium that night for the A-League grand final between Melbourne Victory and the winner of the Queensland Roar-Adelaide United preliminary final.

AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou told the Herald Sun his organisation had locked in the venue on that date when it released its NAB Cup fixture in October.

"At this stage we have a dilemma as it (the Collingwood-Richmond game) is due to fall on a Saturday night, which the Victory might be playing as well," Demetriou said.

"It could be Ben Cousins' first game, so there could be a dilemma there for all concerned. It is scheduled for Saturday night, Telstra Dome.

"It is in our fixture, and we put that NAB Cup draw out in October. So we will see what happens."

FFA chief executive Ben Buckley said he had received an assurance from Telstra Dome management that the A-League grand final would be played there on February 28.

"We have been advised from Telstra Dome that we can, and are able to play the match on that night," Buckley told the Herald Sun last night.

Asked if the AFL's stance was a sign of it going head-to-head against soccer, Demetriou said: "You're using those words.

"The MCG is not available. It's not about staking a claim, but we have got a booking priority (at Telstra Dome), under our agreement."

Told that FFA had announced Telstra Dome as the venue for the A-League grand final on that night, Demetriou said: "They are playing at a venue we normally play football at."

The MCG can not stage the NAB Cup match because drop-in wickets required for cricket would still be in place.

Telstra Dome chief executive Ian Collins could not be contacted, but the venue's communications manager Bill Lane said talks with the AFL were continuing.

"As far as we are concerned, we are still in communications with the AFL," Lane said.

"We would have thought staging the (NAB Cup) game on a Thursday night, or a Monday, would have been a reasonable outcome, and we think the matter can be resolved amicably."

Asked the stadium's preferred outcome on the standoff, Lane said: "We are aware the Football Federation has announced the game, the A-League grand final, will be played here on the Saturday, and we are happy with that announcement."

Telstra Dome management was convinced the AFL would move the Collingwood-Richmond match, but it is believed the AFL was asked by Channel 10 to keep it in its original timeslot.

Melbourne Victory's use of Telstra Dome has become part of legal action taken by the AFL against management of the Docklands venue.

Also crucial to that action was a decision by the venue management to name airline Etihad as the ground's new naming rights sponsor, because the AFL has Qantas as a major sponsor.

I love AFL (member of my club and all that) but this really pisses me off. The Grand Final would be over 40000 I reckon and it is much more significant than the NAB Cup althoug the Pies might ensure a bigger attendance for the AFL game. But surely it is a matter of priorities? And Demetriou (who I think does a decent job generally) is wide of the mark here. Certainly, politics is involved but someone needs to tell Demetriou to wind his neck in.

What really annoys me though is that they are trying to sell the game on the back of Ben Cousins. I don't particularly like the guy and what he does or has done in the past but I think the AFL basically hung him out to dry. And then they try to big up ticket sales because Benny is coming back ... No wonder he is a bit of a ****.

philaire

16-02-2009, 08:44 PM

I love AFL (member of my club and all that) but this really pisses me off. The Grand Final would be over 40000 I reckon and it is much more significant than the NAB Cup althoug the Pies might ensure a bigger attendance for the AFL game. But surely it is a matter of priorities? And Demetriou (who I think does a decent job generally) is wide of the mark here. Certainly, politics is involved but someone needs to tell Demetriou to wind his neck in.

What really annoys me though is that they are trying to sell the game on the back of Ben Cousins. I don't particularly like the guy and what he does or has done in the past but I think the AFL basically hung him out to dry. And then they try to big up ticket sales because Benny is coming back ... No wonder he is a bit of a ****.Typical AFL arrogance that still pervades this town like a sickening disease. For goodness sake, even with the saturation of pre-game hype for the (albeit worthy) bushfire fund raiser last Friday the AFL could only draw 35,000 and now they think they can outdraw the A-league grand final. And they managed to swap venues for that game at the drop of a hat. It will be interesting to see what undoubted pressure Channel 10 bring to bear to keep it on the Saturday.

TonysMumsabitch

17-02-2009, 12:40 AM

The AFL have no chance on this front, they are just flexing their muscles.

Part of the growing fear other codes have of football in this country.

oz_da II

17-02-2009, 12:42 AM

2.45 Qld, worth a bet?

Only a manager of Frank Farina's quality could stuff this up....

kayjay

17-02-2009, 12:48 AM

2.45 Qld, worth a bet?
Worth a sizeable wager :p
Roar are flying and Utd in disarray.

kayjay

17-02-2009, 12:49 AM

Only a manager of Frank Farina's quality could stuff this up....No, not this one!

oz_da II

17-02-2009, 01:00 AM

No, not this one!

Yes, this one...

ozzieEagle

17-02-2009, 02:25 AM

The AFL have no chance on this front, they are just flexing their muscles.

Part of the growing fear other codes have of football in this country.

I'm mildly concerned about the Aleague at present.

There's a strong possibility that MV wont sell out this GF in my opinion.

I think the standard of play has increased each year marginally, however people could be getting disinterested in the same faces regurgitated at the very few teams in this League.

Adelaides seemingly dramatic demise, has made me take a step back and look hard at exactly what I'm following here. The prospect of playing Adelaide 7 times in one season does not enthrall me one iota.... Gawd I hope they dont get through.... It could be enough to stop me going altogether.

Luckily the Wcup is around the corner, looks like Aus would have to perform a reverse miracle to stuff qualifying up, so the general interest in football could sustain this competition, which is on the border of getting beyond stale.

It's time to introduce a cup comp with the NSL teams in my opinion, if the ethnic component stuffs it up, then so be it.

Lets hope these two new Qland teams goes some way to reversing this trend.

MV need strong opposition, without it, the league is a hollow sham.

oz_da II

17-02-2009, 02:43 AM

MV need strong opposition, without it, the league is a hollow sham.

Is this the same club that missed the playoffs last season?
You're getting a little ahead of yourself there...

ozzieEagle

17-02-2009, 02:52 AM

Is this the same club that missed the playoffs last season?
You're getting a little ahead of yourself there...

Maybe its the Palace fan in me, but I quite enjoyed last season.

I really hope I am getting ahead of myself Oz Da. Other things are annoying the hell out of me as well, one being not being able to afford to sign Carlos Hernadez from a Costa Rican club for x sakes. Hows the league meant to grow with those kind of financial constraints.

TonysMumsabitch

17-02-2009, 02:55 AM

As expected -

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/02/17/2493720.htm

Eat shit Demetriou.

philaire

17-02-2009, 03:26 AM

MV need strong opposition, without it, the league is a hollow sham.Ozzie, it's only a handful of weeks ago that we lost to Newcastle, Wellington and Perth Glory three weeks on the trot! And if the form book carries through we'll be up against a very handy Queensland combo in two weeks time. That would be a very tasty fixture. And the prices are quite family friendly. I quite like the front of Level 3 at T Dome and these seats will be only $125 for the family - not bad for a grand final.

I'd agree that MV fans are a bit over Adelaide just now and it would be a hard marketing sell if we do face them again in the final. I thought the turn-up from the away support was quite poor at T Dome on Saturday - looked like about 300 fans occupying about 3,000 seats - so Adelaide fans are presumably also over these clashes for the time being.

A proper national cup competition would take some organising, but it would be well worth the investment. In the same vein as the FA Cup, you could run the early rounds starting at the very lowest levels eg. Provisional leagues in Melbourne and similar in all states, and gradually work your way up the leagues through preliminary rounds before maybe going national with the final 16 or 32. I'm certain players at all ranks would love the notion of participating in a comp that involved all levels, even if the chances of playing against your heroes was basically nil. Despite all this, it will almost certainly end up in the too-hard basket.

ozeagle

17-02-2009, 03:31 AM

Part of the growing fear other codes have of football in this country.

AFL is quaking in it's boots....

:clown:

oz_da II

17-02-2009, 03:34 AM

Maybe its the Palace fan in me, but I quite enjoyed last season.

I really hope I am getting ahead of myself Oz Da. Other things are annoying the hell out of me as well, one being not being able to afford to sign Carlos Hernadez from a Costa Rican club for x sakes. Hows the league meant to grow with those kind of financial constraints.

That's a good point.

One thing the A-League does have going for it is that it is quite an even competition especially compared to other leagues. Unless it is Melbourne playing Adelaide or Queensland playing Central Coast... Anyone can generally beat anybody. Didn't Melbourne have an abysmal record against the bottom four?

The signing of Fowler will give it some more newspaper space in the UK which may provide the league with some more similar players in the future. I don't think he is here for a jolly-up either (like a few other big name players) as he clearly doesn't need the cash.

oz_da II

17-02-2009, 03:41 AM

I thought the turn-up from the away support was quite poor at T Dome on Saturday - looked like about 300 fans occupying about 3,000 seats - so Adelaide fans are presumably also over these clashes for the time being.

Would have been different had it been Adelaide 1 - 0 Melbourne going into the match. Much like the Beaujolais sipping crowd at West Lakes, the United fans only sing when they are winning and stay at home when they are losing.

ozeagle

18-02-2009, 12:11 PM

you obviously haven't spent much time at West Lakes,

a.) they drink West End
or
b.) they knit

no beaujolais in sight

Raoul Duke

21-02-2009, 09:33 AM

Hope you didn't lose too much money ozeagle.

Adelaide were better tonight but I felt that Queensland were well below the level they have been playing at for the last couple of months. Lovely assist from Craig Moore :)

I really don't like AU's chances next week but a spot in the ACL is a nice reward for losing a Grand Final.

In this years ACL, AU proved to be a resilient and spirited team but they'll need all of that to come close to those Victorians.

Surfside

21-02-2009, 12:25 PM

I'm sick of inbreds. Grand Final will be boring as batshit. Melbourne 1275 - 0 Adelaide

ozzieEagle

22-02-2009, 04:13 AM

you obviously haven't spent much time at West Lakes,

a.) they drink West End
or
b.) they knit

no beaujolais in sight

Do you know if you look around the 80th minute mark of that game yesterday, there's a corner, and blow me down, theres a lady sitting there knitting.

I thought of you then Oze, talk about laugh :p

ozeagle

22-02-2009, 11:31 AM

seen it often enough, Ozzie ;) unlike the perennially anti S.A, blinded, Oz_Da, despite living there for a good part of his life.

surprised no mention of that wonder strike. f uck me, what a goal.

oz_da II

22-02-2009, 02:44 PM

Seen plenty of knitters at Crow's matches, if I could knit I'd be doing it as well, far more entertaining than watching Neil Craig's brand of footy..

Anyway, will be hilarious if Adelaide beat the bollocks booting Victory.

oz_da II

22-02-2009, 02:46 PM

surprised no mention of that wonder strike. f uck me, what a goal.

Too busy moaning about their GF opponents. What cheek! :eek:
Deserve to lose with that sort of attitude.

Yes great goal, has done it in the past as well.

philaire

22-02-2009, 08:36 PM

Anyway, will be hilarious if Adelaide beat the bollocks booting Victory.Stranger things have happened. All the same, it will be hard to sell out the GF now.

TonysMumsabitch

23-02-2009, 01:26 AM

There will still be over 50K I reckon.

crystaljim

23-02-2009, 01:36 AM

[QUOTE=oz_da II]Too busy moaning about their GF opponents. What cheek! :eek:
Deserve to lose with that sort of attitude.

QUOTE]

MV rapidly taking Sydneys mantle as the team everyone loves to hate.

oz_da II

23-02-2009, 01:51 AM

That happened a long time ago.
Sydney just a laughingstock now.

ozeagle

23-02-2009, 04:24 AM

hattrick for archie looms

Skid Row

26-02-2009, 05:11 AM

Stranger things have happened. All the same, it will be hard to sell out the GF now.
2000 tickets left, all standing room.

Apparently 2000 Adelaide supporters are making the trek.

The winner of the GF on saturday will recieve the huge monetary payout of $0. All the money from the ticket sales from the GF (and other finals) dont go to the clubs, it goes to the FFA.

Surely the clubs should get some reward. :confused:

philaire

26-02-2009, 10:07 PM

2000 tickets left, all standing room.

Apparently 2000 Adelaide supporters are making the trek.

The winner of the GF on saturday will recieve the huge monetary payout of $0. All the money from the ticket sales from the GF (and other finals) dont go to the clubs, it goes to the FFA.

Surely the clubs should get some reward. :confused:
Yes, we'll have to put up with the usual "Melburnians love their sport" crap again. However, I'm glad it has sold out, and fair effort from the United support as well.

There is undoubted prestige in becoming champions, but agree that some financial incentive wouldn't go astray. With both teams having achieved ACL qualification, in a strange sense the pressure is off.

TonysMumsabitch

27-02-2009, 02:19 AM

The 2007 GF was the 1st GF to be broadcast globally to new massive TV audiences. It will be another bumper crowd, and it should go some way to exposing MVFC - which is needed at the moment as after this season Samsung will no longer be the major sponsor.

Surfside

27-02-2009, 02:38 AM

When are you people hitting up the pub?

Surfside

27-02-2009, 11:42 PM

F**k off United and so on

IAN WALSH

28-02-2009, 07:43 AM

this is shit id rather watch galway utd

Raoul Duke

28-02-2009, 10:01 AM

Awful game and even worse refereeing.

Surfside

28-02-2009, 03:24 PM

Awful game and even worse refereeing.

I'll fetch you a tissue. :clown:

Raoul Duke

28-02-2009, 09:02 PM

I'll fetch you a tissue. :clown:

Do you have to share your Championship medals with the ref?

oz_da II

28-02-2009, 11:35 PM

Well that was a farcical night of football.

Kicked off by Muscat's issuing of the red card and capped off by Ney "Spitter" Fabiano's ridiculous t-shirt.

Says a lot about the standard of refereeing in this league that this buffoon Breeze wins the best official award.

philaire

01-03-2009, 03:10 AM

Well that was a farcical night of football.

Kicked off by Muscat's issuing of the red card and capped off by Ney "Spitter" Fabiano's ridiculous t-shirt.

Says a lot about the standard of refereeing in this league that this buffoon Breeze wins the best official award.Tellingly, he didn't win the players' best ref award.

Just typical that the inept Breeze had to have the final say in the season's proceedings.

This guy has such an inferiority complex that it behoves him to make his stamp on games, and such a disgrace that he tainted the GF with it this time around. Just as I remain convinced that he never actually saw the Fabiano spit but acted on circumstantial evidence, so too last night with the 10th minute sending off for Adelaide. A more balanced ref would have dealt a yellow but Breeze seems driven to take centre stage and be remembered for all the wrong reasons.

Many would say that this act ruined the game - it did in terms of fairness from then on, but not in terms of spectacle. While the first half was rather ground out, the second I thought was enthralling, especially that passage leading up to the Victory goal where it seemed that Adelaide were just destined to score.

I disagree strongly that it was farcical, ozda, rather the atmosphere and the tension in the stadium was just sensational, but Breeze has much to answer for, and it is laughable to consider him the #1 ref in the country.

kayjay

01-03-2009, 05:43 AM

Breeze just can't help himself - has red card turrets!

TonysMumsabitch

01-03-2009, 07:39 PM

The treble !

:lux:

Feck the refs, who cares. It's been like that for much of the season for most of the refs. Nothing new there. The crapness usually evens itself out. And when you consider Christiano's dive from earlier this year, that much is certain.

The best team won everything, and the best city showed its wares once more.

:afro:

TonysMumsabitch

02-03-2009, 05:06 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf8532k9u2g

Surfside

02-03-2009, 07:38 AM

Do you have to share your Championship medals with the ref?

Cristiano's red was soft, but at least he comitted an offence. Allsopp was sent off for absolutely no reason, and Galekovic got nothing for running half the pitch to shove a player. Yes, Breeze was awful, but he always is, and he was awful for both sides.

Surfside

02-03-2009, 07:42 AM

Tellingly, he didn't win the players' best ref award.

Just typical that the inept Breeze had to have the final say in the season's proceedings.

This guy has such an inferiority complex that it behoves him to make his stamp on games, and such a disgrace that he tainted the GF with it this time around. Just as I remain convinced that he never actually saw the Fabiano spit but acted on circumstantial evidence, so too last night with the 10th minute sending off for Adelaide. A more balanced ref would have dealt a yellow but Breeze seems driven to take centre stage and be remembered for all the wrong reasons.

Many would say that this act ruined the game - it did in terms of fairness from then on, but not in terms of spectacle. While the first half was rather ground out, the second I thought was enthralling, especially that passage leading up to the Victory goal where it seemed that Adelaide were just destined to score.

I disagree strongly that it was farcical, ozda, rather the atmosphere and the tension in the stadium was just sensational, but Breeze has much to answer for, and it is laughable to consider him the #1 ref in the country.

I don't know why he was the ref. Delovski won ref of the year I believe (or maybe Peter Green) stupid decision from the FFA. Referee of the year should ref the Grand Final. Will be interesting to see if the FFA grow some balls and admit that the ref f**ked up and rescind both Allsopp and Cristiano's cards. (However they never do that, no matter how blatant the error, so I don't see that changing now.)

Victory have already challenged Allsopp's red, Adelaide should do the same (if Cristiano is staying)

oz_da II

02-03-2009, 07:45 AM

Yes, Breeze was awful, but he always is, and he was awful for both sides.

The big difference being he was awful for Adelaide a lot earlier than being awful for Melbourne.

I like Slater's idea (for once) of bringing in an international referee of well repute to officiate the GF. I'm aware it will never happen as that shows up the referees we have at the moment as not being good enough (which of course they clearly are not good enough).

Surfside

02-03-2009, 08:04 AM

The big difference being he was awful for Adelaide a lot earlier than being awful for Melbourne.

I like Slater's idea (for once) of bringing in an international referee of well repute to officiate the GF. I'm aware it will never happen as that shows up the referees we have at the moment as not being good enough (which of course they clearly are not good enough).

To be fair though, the players know he's a useless ****, and that if they go anywhere near a player, let alone near their face (intentionally or otherwise) he'll whip out his trusty red card. He is consistently rubbish, and the players should be careful of that.

By the way, that linesman on the near side was just as responsible for the two cards. Breeze was going to give Cristiano a yellow (the correct decision imo) but the linesman talked him into making it a red, and Allsopp would have gotten nothing (also the correct decision) if that linesman had shut his trap.

oz_da II

02-03-2009, 08:12 AM

To be fair though, the players know he's a useless ****, and that if they go anywhere near a player, let alone near their face (intentionally or otherwise) he'll whip out his trusty red card. He is consistently rubbish, and the players should be careful of that.

By the way, that linesman on the near side was just as responsible for the two cards. Breeze was going to give Cristiano a yellow (the correct decision imo) but the linesman talked him into making it a red.

Probably influenced by Muscat's theatrics. That was ridiculous, why can't he act with a bit of class for once?

Notice Vargas jumped in exactly the same manner as Christiano (the natural manner). Do these morons expect players to jump with their arms by their sides? Some sort of mix between a salmon and an Irish dancer?

Surfside

02-03-2009, 08:17 AM

Probably influenced by Muscat's theatrics. That was ridiculous, why can't he act with a bit of class for once?

Notice Vargas jumped in exactly the same manner as Christiano (the natural manner). Do these morons expect players to jump with their arms by their sides? Some sort of mix between a salmon and an Irish dancer?

Could say exactly the same for Galekovic. He was worse.

oz_da II

02-03-2009, 08:20 AM

Debatable, I think it was a bit of "When in Rome..."

Surfside

02-03-2009, 08:22 AM

Debatable, I think it was a bit of "When in Rome..."

"......You run half the pitch to push a player."

That's how the proverb goes isn't it?

oz_da II

02-03-2009, 08:30 AM

I think it goes, "When in Rome do what Muscat would do, act like an idiot"

Surfside

02-03-2009, 09:16 AM

I think it goes, "When in Rome do what Muscat would do, act like an idiot"

Right, so Cornflakes and Galekovic being dicks is Muscat's fault?

Good argument. :rolleyes:

oz_da II

02-03-2009, 09:43 AM

Cornflakes doesn't need any assistance in acting like a clown.

You'd think Muscat would have enough confidence to win without trying to get a guy sent off. Indicating that Christiano had jumped off the top rope with his elbow "Macho Man Savage style" was embarrassing.

Look out Roddy!!!!

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o221/busa8989/SavageElbow.jpg

philaire

02-03-2009, 08:55 PM

By the way, that linesman on the near side was just as responsible for the two cards. Breeze was going to give Cristiano a yellow (the correct decision imo) but the linesman talked him into making it a red, and Allsopp would have gotten nothing (also the correct decision) if that linesman had shut his trap.Totally disagree. It was at Breeze's discretion that he consulted the linesman. True, the lino didn't help in either case, but it's not him that decides the cards, it's Breeze. Breeze should have had the wherewithal to assess that the combined circumstantial evidence was insufficient in either case, but, as is his trademark, he thought he would go ahead and create the headlines. Interestingly, Cornthwaite's headless chook routine after the Allsopp incident looked a "spitting image" (as it were) of his routine after the alleged Fabiano spit. Galekovic mildly agitated as well.

kayjay

03-03-2009, 12:17 AM

Carlos Hernandez's contract is up and the Victory are going to have to send $920,000 his way for another season. How much room would be left in the cap?

crystaljim

03-03-2009, 01:03 AM

Thats a transfer fee to his club, he was previously on a two year loan. Does not affected by salary cap

Surfside

03-03-2009, 04:50 AM

Carlos Hernandez's contract is up and the Victory are going to have to send $920,000 his way for another season. How much room would be left in the cap?

Fee doesn't count towards salary........the 300k a year he'll want does.

philaire

03-03-2009, 05:25 AM

Fee doesn't count towards salary........the 300k a year he'll want does.And it sounds as though that will be an issue. So who would we prefer as a marquee player next year - Thompson or Hernandez?

Surfside

03-03-2009, 12:30 PM

Both Allsopp and Cristiano's cards have been rescinded. Well done FFA.

oz_da II

03-03-2009, 02:14 PM

More ineptness from Breeze.

With all the hoopla involved in the 2nd half FoxSports worked out injury time should have been about 6 minutes (they timed it as 6m 5s). Breeze gives 3...

Skid Row

03-03-2009, 08:10 PM

I just saw video footage of Allsopps vicious headbutt. Bugger me, and you had the gaul to get stuck into Muscat for his reaction to an elbow oz_da. Cornflakes and Galekovic should hang their heads in shame.

oz_da II

03-03-2009, 08:53 PM

Mimicry is a sincere form of flattery...

philaire

03-03-2009, 09:35 PM

More ineptness from Breeze.

With all the hoopla involved in the 2nd half FoxSports worked out injury time should have been about 6 minutes (they timed it as 6m 5s). Breeze gives 3...I think he wanted it all to be over. At the stadium we all thought it would have been at least 5 minutes...

And now Breeze is being hung out to dry by the FFA courtesy of the "match review panel". Nice to know that history will record that neither played deserved the red, but I'm not sure what the panel has achieved as a result - Adelaide fans are calling for the match to be replayed (fat chance of that) and Breeze has been quickly, heavily slammed by his employer. In most workplaces that happens behind closed doors.

kayjay

04-03-2009, 12:34 AM

And it sounds as though that will be an issue. So who would we prefer as a marquee player next year - Thompson or Hernandez?
Didn't realise Carlos was on loan.
I'd say Hernandez as marquee player as long as he
stays away from the pie shop.
Ernie could only use him off the bench for the first half of the season cos he couldn't himself fit enough for 90 minutes.
Needless to say, his best football for MV has been in the last month whilst looking very fit. (or cynically, contract talks to commence).
$300k? Yes!
P.S Theo looking for a Europe gig as well.

TonysMumsabitch

04-03-2009, 02:19 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf8532k9u2g

philaire

04-03-2009, 05:02 AM

1799

Didn't realise Carlos was on loan.
I'd say Hernandez as marquee player as long as he
stays away from the pie shop.Which will only work if Thompson is prepared to take a pay cut. Healthy ego there, might be a challenge...

oz_da II

04-03-2009, 05:19 AM

Is his contract up? If not, why should he?

TonysMumsabitch

04-03-2009, 11:29 PM

Which will only work if Thompson is prepared to take a pay cut. Healthy ego there, might be a challenge...

If Thompson wants to finish his career at Melbourne, once this contract is up he will not be offered marquee terms. Once this contract is up I think it's fairly agreeable that he will be at the point in his career when his marquee status is no longer viable.

Hearing rumours that Mark Viduka is about to sign a deal with Hull City - and will move there on a free right after his Newcastle contract expires - so that rules him out for the coming A-League season.

I'm happy for MVFC's strike force to remain as is for V5 though, with Allsopp, Thompson and Fabiano. I still don't think many A-League clubs will be able to match that fire power. There is also Pondeljak for one more season, who can play upfront as well.

Surfside

06-03-2009, 02:12 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf8532k9u2g

Nice vid. Good day that one

Surfside

06-03-2009, 06:01 AM

Nick Ward signed for another 2 years at Victory

oz_da II

06-03-2009, 06:24 AM

Unlucky...

Skid Row

06-03-2009, 07:26 AM

Nick Ward signed for another 2 years at Victory
Well he was the junior marquee player so his wages werent counted in our salary cap. Wonder if he's taken a pay cut to stay.

oz_da II

10-03-2009, 11:16 AM

The much predicted slaughter hasn't started to well for the Jets. :clown:

Newcastle Old Boy Ryan Griffiths scores for Beijing.

oz_da II

10-03-2009, 12:19 PM

Looks like Beijing have Lazarus in goal...

Happens every time with these clowns. How embarrassing to think that they need to do this against Newcastle.

TonysMumsabitch

15-05-2009, 06:50 AM

Oh dear.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25487473-421,00.html

Sydney FC and Australian under-20s player Sebastian Ryall charged with underage sex
AAP
May 15, 2009 02:44pm

SYDNEY FC and Australian under-20s player Sebastian Ryall has been stood down by Football Federation Australia after being charged with engaging in a sexual act with a 13-year-old girl.

The charge arises out of an incident that took place in January 2008, when Ryall was aged 18.

Ryall, who was scheduled to leave tomorrow with the Australian under-20 team for a camp in the Netherlands, recently transferred to Sydney from Melbourne Victory.

He has been suspended from participation in football matches in Australia, including the A-League, until September 3 and is also ineligible to participate in national team competition until the criminal case has been determined, or September 2009, whichever is the later.

Sydney FFA chief executive Ben Buckley said the matter involving Ryall was brought to the attention of the sport's ruling body and Sydney FC on April 23.

He said the matter had not been publicly disclosed until now because the issue had to be discussed with the player and his legal representatives, his club and the FFA's lawyers.

Ryall was sanctioned following a finding under clause 2.1 of the FFA's code of conduct that he had brought the game into disrepute through being charged with a criminal offence.

Ryall has pleaded not guilty to the charge and his lawyer said he would strenuously defend his innocence.

He has seven days to appeal the FFA decision.

Sydney FC fully endorsed the sanctions imposed by the FFA, but said it had no knowledge of the incident when it signed Ryall from Melbourne Victory in November last year.

"The Sydney football club, which has its own code of conduct, demands that only the very highest standard of behaviour is acceptable from all of its employees,'' the club said.

"This has been acknowledged by all of the club's players, coaches and staff.

"Given that the incident has resulted in a criminal charge and is presently before the courts, the club, its players, coaches and staff will not discuss any matters relating to the incident.

"Once the proceedings before the courts have been finally determined, the club will then make a formal statement.''