Worst Penalty for Palace EVER ! [Archive]

Neil Ashton

17-06-1999, 06:40 PM

oooohohhh good question Neil.

there would have been quite a few because we won 1-0 with an Ian Wright.

Now you really are testing me about the number of Palace fans.. I have just spoken to my brother who reckons there were 20-30 Palace on the train and he says (and I don't believe him) there were FIVE coaches ! Bollocks.

Gazza1

17-06-1999, 08:10 PM

Approx 1974-5. FA Cup. Injury time. Away at Plymouth. Venables hits penalty straight at keeper.

Nobody spoke to him on way home (players shared supporters 'special' train to save money).

Dyer vs Leeds

Thomas at Liverpool. 9-1 sounds so much better.

17-06-1999, 10:50 PM

Definately Zohar v Saints. At the time I was in my final year at the uni down in Southampton and had suffered nothing but grief from their pathetically arrogant fans for being a Palace supporter. They had already robbed us as usual at the Dell and we had to win this game, just to wipe the smugness off their faces for a while. In a match we had totally dominated and hit the woodwork in they did their usual trick of scoring a lucky goal against the run of play before Shipps got our leveller and then came the penalty. I was praying it would go in,,,but then that poxy Zohar fool fluffed it completely. I was alright for him he went back to Israel with a sack full of our clubs money no doubt, I had to cope with being told how we were lucky to of got a point against the brilliant Saints. Grrrrrrhhhh!!!! Perhaps this should be on the hate Palace section instead!?!

Neil the Eagle

17-06-1999, 11:54 PM

Sorry all, to return to my chat with Neil about Hull ...

There were only 98 fans in the terrace and another 27 in the seats! One of their coppers told us this whilst the few were sheltering under that poxy supermarket roof (more like a shelf) from a downpour and gale force wind - "Hark now hear the Palace sing, the wind blows it away".

The copper was taking the p**s saying it was the worst turnout all season from an away side - he couldn't understand it because we were challenging for a play-off spot. He then demonstrated how those evil revolting spikes on top of the fence worked, to dissuade us from any on-pitch activity (as if...)

In fairness to us, it came within 10 days of visits to Shrewsbury & Leeds and we had Plymouth later on in the month - all very expensive trips, the weather on the day didn't help either.

(for the record there were two coaches, neither were full)

johnny

18-06-1999, 12:51 AM

How Bruce Dyer missed putting the rebound in against Leeds in the cup is still beyond me.The penalty that really sticks in my mind though,and i'm going back a while now (!),was John Sewell at Old Trafford,against Man Utd in 69/70.The ball actually ended up in the net,but it was not down to Sewells skill (he didn't have any,and how he ended up our penalty taker in such a big game has never been explained !).He took quite a long run up at the ball,kicked the ground and the ball at the same time,and sent it towards goal along the ground, through the mud at snails pace.Alex Stepney had expected a hard,decent shot (he obviously didn't know Sewells reputation) went flying the wrong way,but STILL managed to get up and dive the other way to keep the ball out-but Sewell was the only player to follow up,and as Stepney made a cock up of hanging on to the ball,our hero managed to just get a toe to it to prod it over the line.The whole incident seemed to take about half an hour.This really crap penalty earned us a famous 1-1 draw against Best, Law,Charlton and co.

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Neil the Eagle

18-06-1999, 03:56 AM

Yeah Johnny, I know the one you mean - I saw it on video a while back but can't for the life of me remember what - could have been a cock-ups vid, cos Sewell/Sprake incident was on the tape as well ... I think

Neil the Eagle

18-06-1999, 04:09 AM

At the least other two gave it some welly, I can't stand underhit, sidefoot pens.

Speaking of which, one of the worst I can remember was one that was actually scored ... Madden's first effort away at Leeds in 89 was a sidefoot just inside the right post which he mis-kicked. Merv (the Perv) Day went the right way but the ball bobbled up and over his hand almost in slow motion - Day flapped after the ball but ended up pushing further into the net.

I seem to remember Taylor mis-kicking a vital one in 1976 run-in (against Halifax or possibly Aldershot?) which cost us dear. The keeper had time to recover from going the wrong way to stop the ball.

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Neil Ashton

18-06-1999, 04:25 AM

Neil

That was one hell of a night at Leeds... I think we knew somehow we were going to go up that season when we won that game. Hadn't Wilkinson just taken over and they basically had to win to sdtand a chance of going up themselves.
Wrighty put us in front? and it was like the Alamo but we survived. 442 of us behind the goal that night if memory serves me corret.

johnny

18-06-1999, 04:43 AM

Neil,that Sewell goal against Leeds was his finest hour.I was at that game,Leeds were 1-0 up with just a few minutes left when Sprake made one of the classic goalkeeping mistakes of all time.What you don't see on the video is the Leeds players hurling abuse at poor old Sprake while he just stands there with his head in his hands.Jack Charlton in particular really let rip at him.That goal meant so much,as everyone hated that Leeds side,they were dirty as hell,but always seemed to get away with it-they were the Man Utd of that era.

sfera

18-06-1999, 04:44 AM

Bobby Kellard v. Newcastle, 1972. He slipped and kicked a divot which sent the keeper the wrong way, as I recall. Anyone else remember it that way?

sfera

18-06-1999, 04:47 AM

And didn't Peter Taylor..yes, that Peter Taylor, virtually hit the corner flag at the Holmesdale end in a cup game?

johnny

18-06-1999, 05:02 AM

sfera,that Newcastle game was the one where Bobby Kellard crippled the "Toon's"
Tony Green,and put him out of football for good-i always thought Kellard was a seriously dirty player with the shortest legs a Palace player had ever possesed *****il, that is,we bought Phil Holder).

Chocky

18-06-1999, 01:57 PM

What about the 24 penalties we missed in one game against Br*ghton? We should have walked out of that game with a 5-1 thrashing of them, but at least we got the win anyway. And every lad who lived on Holmesdale Road got a free matchball.

Oisin

18-06-1999, 03:00 PM

I’m in the Zohar camp. 1. He was a “deadball specialist”. 2. We were in the middle of a humiliating run without a home win 3. The saints were crap and we should have won. 4. Everyone saw him take the ball from Bruce who wanted to take it.

ANDY FROM BR1

18-06-1999, 03:51 PM

Peter Taylor vs Millwall! at Whitehorse End, 1975 I think?

johnny

19-06-1999, 02:24 AM

Who's this Zohar bloke you lot are always talking about?.I don't remember him or his penalty-is it just that the trauma of having seen him play has triggered my subconscious mind into blotting out all memories of him?.I may have to visit a hypnotherapist to delve into my darkest recesses-or maybe i won't bother....

ajp

19-06-1999, 03:18 AM

Apat from Zohar's against Southampton I remember Southgate missing up at Portman Road against Ipswich Town. It was in the final minutes of our league game up there in the 91-92 season. The score was 2-2 and like the Zohar one it was a miss which cost us an almost certain win.

20-06-1999, 10:17 PM

Andy Gray against Coventry in a 1-0 home defeat is another one, and Salako missing against Southampton (again) in a game where we totally excremented on them and they still won thanks to Iain Dowie, who we were yet to worship at that stage.

Oisin

21-06-1999, 03:45 AM

Every Palace fan who saw Southgate go up to take his England penalty knew what was going to happen. Last time he'd hit the post so he was going to put it down the middle.

stushirts

29-09-2004, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by Neil the Eagle
Yeah Johnny, I know the one you mean - I saw it on video a while back but can't for the life of me remember what - could have been a cock-ups vid, cos Sewell/Sprake incident was on the tape as well ... I think

its on the bbc build up to the 1990 fa cup final the penalty against man u .

I have just watched the video of the famous game against brighton when the useless ref gave 5 pens. Ian Wrights goal from almost the half way line still looks great as does the stupid ref running about like a complete prat .

cantspell

29-09-2004, 11:49 AM

Johnny P's Penalty for me.

Remember Zohar and GAreths at Ipswich. Ranking alongside was a Gerry Francis penalty at Arsenal to win there and He tapped it to Jennings, who didn't have to move a muscle.

Nelson Muntz

29-09-2004, 11:49 AM

AJ against Pompey. 2004.

c_block_lad

29-09-2004, 11:52 AM

Bradbury V Crewe '99

GeeTee

29-09-2004, 12:00 PM

Originally posted by eagle mart
sorry to butt-in Neils!
But I think Southgate away at Ipswich... that cost us points which made us get relegated on Goal Difference!

No chance, on two counts-

On quality - it hit the post so there have been many worse for accuracy.

On importance - sure it costs points that could have saved us from relegation but so did two other missed penalties that season. McGoldrick at Spurs I think and one other.

SpikeyMatt

29-09-2004, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by Neil the Eagle
Zohar

Ditto that

Awful pen :hmph:

Leap of faith

29-09-2004, 12:11 PM

I hate to say it but the Geoff Thomas balloon against Liverpool wins it for me. It would have given us a crumb of satisfaction to have scored at Anfield on that woeful night.
:bash:

swissroll

29-09-2004, 12:13 PM

Peter Taylor. Palace v Millwall. Circa 1976ish?, near the end of the game in a must win match to keep us in the promotion chase. I was a fair way up the Holmesdale and it went over my head.

magician

29-09-2004, 02:56 PM

philis barber and his chipper/scuffer at wembley 88 mercentile credit thingy, awful truely awful

BaldEagle96

29-09-2004, 03:11 PM

Has to be Zohar for me, on the basis that we all knew he was going to miss, he was so confident in taking the ball away to take the pen himself, and in terms of us not then winning our first home game of the season and having to wait another 4 months or so contributed heavily to our relegation that season. If we had scored that one, who knows what would have happened that season.

westsussexeagle

29-09-2004, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by Neil the Eagle
Zohar

Agreed. If there's been a worse one I'd like to see it.

29-09-2004, 03:24 PM

Originally posted by ANDY FROM BR1
Peter Taylor vs Millwall! at Whitehorse End, 1975 I think?

Holmesdale End...The large number of Millwall thugs had spent the whole game in the Holmesdale terrorising the home fans with constant outbreaks of fighting....it almost seemed as it Taylor deliberately kicked the PK high to avoid more Palace fans getting the sh#t kicked out of them.
Millwall went on the win promotion and Palace didn't....

Radders

29-09-2004, 03:24 PM

Originally posted by Neil the Eagle
Sorry all, to return to my chat with Neil about Hull ...

There were only 98 fans in the terrace and another 27 in the seats! One of their coppers told us this whilst the few were sheltering under that poxy supermarket roof (more like a shelf) from a downpour and gale force wind - "Hark now hear the Palace sing, the wind blows it away".

The copper was taking the p**s saying it was the worst turnout all season from an away side - he couldn't understand it because we were challenging for a play-off spot. He then demonstrated how those evil revolting spikes on top of the fence worked, to dissuade us from any on-pitch activity (as if...)

In fairness to us, it came within 10 days of visits to Shrewsbury & Leeds and we had Plymouth later on in the month - all very expensive trips, the weather on the day didn't help either.

(for the record there were two coaches, neither were full)

I know this thread is a week or so old but was that on a weeknight with Wrighty scoring the winner??
If thats the one it was a long way for me to go and miss the only goal getting the half time coffees!!!!

p.s. My Name is Neil as well!!!

Panther

29-09-2004, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by ANDY FROM BR1
Peter Taylor vs Millwall! at Whitehorse End, 1975 I think?

Don't know which year it was but that's the one that springs to my mind as well. Nearly took out one of the floodlight stanchions as I remember and led to me having a memorable verbal punch-up with Joyce! (See - I'm braver than you think.)

Radders

29-09-2004, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by Leap of faith
I hate to say it but the Geoff Thomas balloon against Liverpool wins it for me. It would have given us a crumb of satisfaction to have scored at Anfield on that woeful night.
:bash:

Have to agree! Johnny P's against Brighton was bad but scoring that one at Anfield would have sent us barmy!!

Having said that, that 9-0 at Anfield was one of the best atmospheres at an away game ever. We sang so much the scousers to our right were applauding us as they left. Great night. (shite result!!)

BaldEagle96

29-09-2004, 04:26 PM

Originally posted by Neil the Eagle
Sorry all, to return to my chat with Neil about Hull ...

There were only 98 fans in the terrace and another 27 in the seats! One of their coppers told us this whilst the few were sheltering under that poxy supermarket roof (more like a shelf) from a downpour and gale force wind - "Hark now hear the Palace sing, the wind blows it away".

The copper was taking the p**s saying it was the worst turnout all season from an away side - he couldn't understand it because we were challenging for a play-off spot. He then demonstrated how those evil revolting spikes on top of the fence worked, to dissuade us from any on-pitch activity (as if...)

In fairness to us, it came within 10 days of visits to Shrewsbury & Leeds and we had Plymouth later on in the month - all very expensive trips, the weather on the day didn't help either.

(for the record there were two coaches, neither were full)

I was actually there that night - in the seats... I was attending an exhibition in Birmingham on the Thursday and decided to go up a couple of nights early to attend that game and then take a day off (skiving) and go to the Hereford game on the Wednesday night, as I had never been to Hereford before for footie, before driving back up to Brum after the match...

Sure my memort is serving me correctly with the days/timings etc...

Radders

29-09-2004, 04:49 PM

Originally posted by BaldEagle96
I was actually there that night - in the seats... I was attending an exhibition in Birmingham on the Thursday and decided to go up a couple of nights early to attend that game and then take a day off (skiving) and go to the Hereford game on the Wednesday night, as I had never been to Hereford before for footie, before driving back up to Brum after the match...

Sure my memort is serving me correctly with the days/timings etc...

And if it is that game I'm thinking of the linesman was so awful in the first half and the fifty or so in the seats gave him so much grief he moved to the oppsite side second half to run the line in front of an empty terrace:) :)

Those were the days eh?!

ed winchester

29-09-2004, 05:27 PM

I've witnessed nearly all the penalties mentioned on this thread, bar the John Sewell one at Man U, I certainly remember the Peter Taylor miss v Millwall. It was in front of a huge crowd (34,893) for a Third Division match and I can remember it soaring high over the bar at the Holmesdale End, Taylor was nearly everbody's favourite Palace player at the time too, so it certainly was embarrasing.

The Zohar pen was pretty poor, but if you were around at the time, you were half expecting it. I seem to remember Terry Venables missing a vital last minute penalty at Plymouth in a 2nd Round FA Cup tie in 1974 which cost Palace dear and there was also a retaken penalty against us in a 5th Rd replay at Burnley in 1982 which went well wide, but the kick was retaken and scored because of encroachment.

The funniest penalty I have ever heard of involving Palace was a game at Selhurst in our old 4th Division days. Sorry, I can't remember who the taker or the opposition was, but the Palace player kicked the turf in front of the ball and the shot barely entered the six yard box, with the 'keeper having to walk forward four steps to pick up the ball! Perhaps older fans can tell us who the culprit was?

To redress the balance a bit, there is the less well known tale of a Palace reserve game at Luton in 1953. Young 'keeper Roy Bailey, who went on to win fame with Ipswich when they won the old First Division Championship in 1962 under Alf Ramsey had to save a THREE times taken penalty, both retakes for encroachment, that's three saves in a row from one penalty! Beat that!

Ruskin Old Boy

29-09-2004, 05:32 PM

Zohar

Del Martian

29-09-2004, 06:56 PM

Zohar for the sheer importance of it. From personal memory the Peter Taylor miss versus Millwall is particularly painful. He did take a huge run up and the ball certaiinly blazed over the bar at great velocity, but it's a bit of an exagerration to claim it nearly toook out the floodlight stanchion!
We had a good collection of steady penalty takers in the 70's and 80's...usually they would be successful for about five or six, then have one saved and NEVER takke one again. Phil Holder was solid, Doris had a run, then Swindlehusrt and when everyone's nerves were sot to pieces in the early 80's, only Jim Cannon had the huevos to clatter them in from 12 yards. Note the lack of forward/skill players in my list.

gcwhite

29-09-2004, 08:37 PM

In the 1968/69 promotion season I think we missed 5 penalties. All the forwards had tried and missed.

At Easter we played Portsmouth at Selhurst and were awarded a penalty. John 'shovel' Sewell took the spot kick and scored at the Holmesdale end.

I swear to this day that John hit the ground behind the ball like a 'fat' shot in golf. To continue the golfing analogy the divot went one side of the goal while the ball went the other. I am convinced that the keeper tried to save the divot and the ball went in on his other side.

Ruskin Old Boy

29-09-2004, 08:42 PM

Originally posted by gcwhite
In the 1968/69 promotion season I think we missed 5 penalties. All the forwards had tried and missed.

At Easter we played Portsmouth at Selhurst and were awarded a penalty. John 'shovel' Sewell took the spot kick and scored at the Holmesdale end.

Not quite gc; we scored on our 5th attempt - the one you describe.

Steve Kember took one and missed (against Birmingham) - before he'd even scored for the first team.

oz_da II

29-09-2004, 08:42 PM

Worst I've seen was Svensson's effort against Barnsley with Fat Guts Miller in goal.
It was Miller's return to Selhurst and unfortunatley he was the best player on the pitch. I think Svensson's penalty bounced two or three times.

Glaws Eagle

01-10-2004, 07:09 AM

Taylor v Millwall circa 1976

Jim Cannon

01-10-2004, 10:02 AM

Zohar by a country mile.

The funniest one I've ever seen AGAINST us has to be Gordon Durie for Chelsea at the Holmesdale end.

ian king

02-10-2004, 09:42 PM

Johnny P's for the worst miss in terms of feet (miles?)

Zohar's because of the manner he grabbed the ball from ?
and then failed abysmally

I was down the Stretford end when Sewell's pen finally went in (at the other end) and my mate (a Man Utd fan) sensibly restrained me but not my smile

cpfc_connection

02-10-2004, 09:57 PM

I'll go with the bradbury penalty at home to crewe, he missed the penalty after a poorly placed hit, hit the keeper, out the comes the rebound, two yards out and bradbury hits the bar. terrible!

zohar was poor aswell but bradbury wins it for me

tomario

03-10-2004, 08:57 AM

I thought Johhny P's effort was hilarious myself.

Worse penalty has to be Zohar by a long shot.

Rog 007

03-10-2004, 09:25 AM

Zohar, boxing day against the saints closely followed by Southgate against Ipswich in the 94/95 season

Number Six

03-10-2004, 09:28 AM

It's weird how time changes your memory. I can picture Taylor's pen against Millwall now, but I see it sailing into the Whitehorse - when everyone else says it was the Holmesdale. Was there another game around that time where we sent a pen high into the Whitehorse, the one I think I remember was definitely also in front of a packed terrace?

Dyer against Leeds wasn't the worst ever penalty - it was the rebound that was the problem. Martyn's momentum had carried him miles to the left and the ball trickled back to Bruce who had almost the whole goal to aim at from a few yards. The rest is history.

That is one of the worst misses I've ever seen by Palace or anyone else.

Sires

03-10-2004, 03:51 PM

Anyone remember Bruce Dyer vs Leeds in the cup when it was 2-2 at home at it was in the 90th minute and Nigel saved it but then even worse it fell to Leon McKenzie who was a few yards out with the keeper on the floor and flashed it miles wide. Then we lost 2-0 away in the replay I think. It was when we were in the 1st division it maybe have been 1996/1997 or something like that.

Tony

03-10-2004, 07:37 PM

Originally posted by ajp
I remember Southgate missing up at Portman Road against Ipswich Town. It was in the final minutes of our league game up there in the 91-92 season. The score was 2-2 and like the Zohar one it was a miss which cost us an almost certain win.

As we were coming out after the game a Palace fan in front of us just yelled: 'F*** IT' and punched a lampost, really hard. It must have shattered every bone in his hand!