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anyone got this? tele2.co.uk are covering my area. I have a choice of this or going with BT. Cable company (NTL) only do TV, not internet in my area.....
All sounds very promising and a much better option.......... but is it? What's the catch ???
What's the catch ???
There isn't one really except for a couple of minor issues:
1) The technology is a bit bleeding edge so I expect some outages/problems however that prolly wouldn't be anymore than BT or NTL
2) Security of wireless broadband is virtually nonexistent - I don't mean your PC will get hacked or anything like that but data may be lost/intercepted - not a huge issue
I'll ask a few chums to see what their opinion is . .
cheers Dave, seems line of site to the transmitter at Palace is all thats required, and I certainly have that :)
Originally posted by paf
cheers Dave, seems line of site to the transmitter at Palace is all thats required, and I certainly have that :)
Yeah - just reading through the site and it looks quite good. USB connection is a bit of a bollox (as with BT ADSL) but what you gonna do?
So, if I get this........ can I use a hub, stick my X-Box into it and get online playing HALO (which wants around 150K a sec).
Originally posted by paf
So, if I get this........ can I use a hub, stick my X-Box into it and get online playing HALO (which wants around 150K a sec).
Your unlikely to get 150k a second ever - even with minimal overhead and zero contention you would be lucky to pull 80k . . . unless you go for the 1 meg option which will bump up your throughput . . .
BTW I'm available for consultancy on setting up Networks for sharing broadband connections . . . :)
ooooh.. er..........
read this and tell me if it's possible, will owe you a beer :)
xbox online (http://support.bungie.com//perlbin/blam.pl?file=article-display.html&ar_id=18)
one thing that worries me about them is that it says it's NAT - which sometimse means that people can't connect to you (which means setting up an FTP, Gameserver, or anything like that could be a problem).
I used to use Homechoice which had this issue - so if you want to do anything of those things - i'd check with them first.
Originally posted by paf
ooooh.. er..........
read this and tell me if it's possible, will owe you a beer :)
xbox online (http://support.bungie.com//perlbin/blam.pl?file=article-display.html&ar_id=18)
Looks pretty straight forward Paul:
Assuming that you don't have a home network set up then we will need to get you a 5 port hub (£55) a base 10 network card (£9.99) and some CAT5 cable (free). It should be pretty easy to set up however for optimal performance I would reccomend and additional medium spec PC runnning windows2000 or preferably linux to act as the gateway for your broadband connection: IE a PC thats only purpose in life is to handle your internet connection for your XBOX and PC's/laptops on your network.
one thing that worries me about them is that it says it's NAT - which sometimse means that people can't connect to you (which means setting up an FTP, Gameserver, or anything like that could be a problem).
I used to use Homechoice which had this issue - so if you want to do anything of those things - i'd check with them first.
Yes the wireless broadband service uses NAT but that shouldn't be too much of a problem if it is adding the gateway box could sort it :)
Originally posted by Dave
Yes the wireless broadband service uses NAT but that shouldn't be too much of a problem if it is adding the gateway box could sort it :)
Depends on what type of NAT it is - with Homechoice a gateway box would not sort it - as although you had your own IP - it was a 10.whatever address - which means its more like being on an internal network and behind a firewall than being dialed up to the internet :-)
It was, to but it blundlty, an arse.
yep, I have all that, 2 Pc's running Windows XP pro and a laptop and a full network kit I er.. borrowed.
Heres how I see the new Network
arussell
09-01-2002, 03:21 PM
Practicing your skills for forthcoming interviews Dave ? ;)
Originally posted by arussell
Practicing your skills for forthcoming interviews Dave ? ;)
Naw not really - can't get an interview for love nor money . . . Too skilled/expensive . . :(
1f8d
Blind_Eagle
09-01-2002, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by arussell
Practicing your skills for forthcoming interviews Dave ? ;)
Anyone can teach a monkey to use Visio..........
Originally posted by Dave
Naw not really - can't get an interview for love nor money . . . Too skilled/expensive . . :(
All our staff are expensive and overpriced - they are also all crap here so I dought you'd get the job :D
Originally posted by Lion
All our staff are expensive and overpriced - they are also all crap here so I dought you'd get the job :D
But can they spell?
Originally posted by Dave
But can they spell?
No :)
Random*
09-01-2002, 09:59 PM
S'exactly the same network as I have at home. Except there's 4 PC's and a PS2 (for a bit of Tony Hawks online) on the network. The gateway PC sits in the living room, and doubles as an interactive TV guide. :D :D :D
Kevin T
09-01-2002, 10:08 PM
I'm sure in my last month we used to waste time in a much more fun manner than designing network infrastructures for our student chums.
I remember the days where we'd spend the morning designing complex flow diagrams on the whiteboard to help us decide which pub to go to, then the afternoons getting pissed.
Neil the Eagle
10-01-2002, 03:46 PM
Spurred on by this thread, I got the missus to check whether NTL had got their arses in gear yet and switched on broadband in our area and it appears they have (and despite being on the waiting list just hadn't told us)!
Anyway, I can have it today if I purchase a straight lead connection RJ-45 cable and Ethernet Card ("10 base T minimum" according to what the missus wrote down - is this right?) or I can wait a few weeks and have them install it for £100 notes.
The bloke inferred it was easy (and much cheaper) to do yourself and being a have a go sort of guy, I thought I would at least find out more.
What sort of cost am I looking at?
Is it as simple as plugging in the card to a spare port and running the cable from the set-top box?
Also any tips and tricks the tech-meisters on here would like to share?
Do you not need any kind of modem or just a network card?
Installing a network card isn't hard at all - all you need to do is open the case and slot it in - it should find this and then your network settings will need to reflect whatever NTL say they have to be (ie - your IP address, etc)
Forgot to say - you can pick upa decent network card for about £50 from a PC shop .
Originally posted by Neil the Eagle
Spurred on by this thread, I got the missus to check whether NTL had got their arses in gear yet and switched on broadband in our area and it appears they have (and despite being on the waiting list just hadn't told us)!
Anyway, I can have it today if I purchase a straight lead connection RJ-45 cable and Ethernet Card ("10 base T minimum" according to what the missus wrote down - is this right?) or I can wait a few weeks and have them install it for £100 notes.
The bloke inferred it was easy (and much cheaper) to do yourself and being a have a go sort of guy, I thought I would at least find out more.
What sort of cost am I looking at?
Is it as simple as plugging in the card to a spare port and running the cable from the set-top box?
Also any tips and tricks the tech-meisters on here would like to share?
Neil, can prob get what you need for nowt.
Originally posted by Neil the Eagle
Spurred on by this thread, I got the missus to check whether NTL had got their arses in gear yet and switched on broadband in our area and it appears they have (and despite being on the waiting list just hadn't told us)!
Anyway, I can have it today if I purchase a straight lead connection RJ-45 cable and Ethernet Card ("10 base T minimum" according to what the missus wrote down - is this right?) or I can wait a few weeks and have them install it for £100 notes.
The bloke inferred it was easy (and much cheaper) to do yourself and being a have a go sort of guy, I thought I would at least find out more.
What sort of cost am I looking at?
Is it as simple as plugging in the card to a spare port and running the cable from the set-top box?
Also any tips and tricks the tech-meisters on here would like to share?
Invite me round and I'll be happy to set it up for you Neil altthough I'm not sure where the £100 figure comes from as they charged me £25 . . .
If all we are talking about is installinfg and configuring a Network card then I'll defo do it :)
Random*
10-01-2002, 04:01 PM
Well, presuming that you'd have to run the cable from the set top box, it should be quite easy.
Installing the ethernet card should be as simple as opening up your pc (leave the mains lead plugged in, but turned off at the wall - this earths the computer making it harder for you to accidentally blow something inside your computer by static discharge from your clothes, or bodily hair if you're a hairy kinda person :eek: ), then find a spare PCI port (just look for one about the right size to plug the card into), shove it in place, and turn your PC back on.
As your PC boots up, it should find a Network adapter of some kind, and install the drivers for it.
Once that's done, you'll just have to turn the PC off again, plug in the cable between the PC and the box, and follow the instructions for setting up the connection that ntl give you.
Hope that helps.
Neil the Eagle
10-01-2002, 07:51 PM
Wow, cheers guys that was fast.
paf, I won't ask were from but very much appreciated if you can :p
Dave, I'll think have a go myself, but if/when I get stuck give you a shout. If that's OK.
cb8
Neil the Eagle
10-01-2002, 07:53 PM
Will need about 10 feet of cable, by the way.
10 feet............. righty ho. Have your card. Will grab a longer cable.
arussell
10-01-2002, 08:38 PM
Paul - you haven't got any spare Xbox's laying around there have you ? :D
Neil - it's not too difficult and I reckon you should be able to manage (I have faith in you mate ;) )
Originally posted by Random*
S'exactly the same network as I have at home. Except there's 4 PC's and a PS2 (for a bit of Tony Hawks online) on the network. The gateway PC sits in the living room, and doubles as an interactive TV guide. :D :D :D
Does the PS2 have a network card in there - or did you buy something extra for it?
I got a hub at my parents that I dont need till my new house - however if I can plug the PS2 in - then that would be great!!
Originally posted by arussell
Paul - you haven't got any spare Xbox's laying around there have you ? :D
Neil - it's not too difficult and I reckon you should be able to manage (I have faith in you mate ;) )
alas no, but they are out soon in the UK, or from next-gen.co.uk at a reasonable import price.
I'm keen to network several X-box machines for mass killing sprees with Halo. 2 Xboxes will cater for 8 player mayhem.......
Random*
11-01-2002, 03:57 AM
Originally posted by Lion
Does the PS2 have a network card in there - or did you buy something extra for it?
I got a hub at my parents that I dont need till my new house - however if I can plug the PS2 in - then that would be great!!
Well, sort of. I've got a USB Ethernet adapter, which allows the PS2 to connect to the internet through the network. There's only one bit of software that supports it though - Tony Hawk's 3, although the online play is really worth the cost of the ethernet adapter.
You can find details on how to do it at http://www.neversoft.com - there aren't many adapters that support it.
PM me if you need any help with the networking, or setting it up.
There isn't a set date for Sony's network adapter to be released over here as yet.
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