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jaybee
18-09-2000, 11:35 PM
I notice he is availible at only £300k. He isn't the best player but he would always get 15-20 goals for us.
It saves us blowing out £3m on a player who would get 5-10 goals a season (BEATTIE)
He would always get goals and if Morrison got his 15 and Dyer got another 15 the promblem would get better.
What do u think? Am I right?
I am sure that if Bruce Dyer was capable of scoring 10-15 goals a season, he would not be for sale at 300k. He would also be in the Barnsley first team.
Next!
rashid
18-09-2000, 11:52 PM
Originally posted by AJ:
I am sure that if Bruce Dyer was capable of scoring 10-15 goals a season, he would not be for sale at 300k. He would also be in the Barnsley first team.
Next!
Why should we be the only club to sell players for silly money? He was in their first team on Saturday, and scored. I am sure it said on a previous thread somewhere that he is unsettled and available.
arussell
19-09-2000, 12:21 AM
Bruce has never really been happy up in Yorkshire - but he hasn't improved at all since he left us and I feel signing him would be a step backwards.
jaybee
19-09-2000, 12:52 AM
Bruce was a capable scorer 4 us so y not at £300k?
Crate
19-09-2000, 01:00 AM
I don't think Bruce is really what we need to strengthen the team now. To my mind he never really recovered his edge after the savaging he received from Pistone when we played Newcastle in the Premiership in 97-8. And have people forgotten all the jokes about how he was more of a danger to the corner-flag than the goal?
jaybee
19-09-2000, 01:02 AM
YES. But at the moment we did goals and BRUCE (and much as it pains me to say it) DID SCORE GOALS.
£300k ain't a lot.
Ian Hart
19-09-2000, 01:05 AM
It would certainly add to the entertainment value.
I'm sure you must all recall what it was like behind the goal as Bruce set himself up to shoot. We'd all raise our hands in anticipation - in anticipation of the ball sailing over the bar so that we could catch it. It was always good for a laugh.
Seriously though - do we really wish to fill our whole team with players that the selling team doesn't want? There's usually a good reason why a team is happy to sell a striker, and it ain't homesickness
Jaffa
19-09-2000, 01:05 AM
No. Please god no.
Bruce Dyer. Just say no.
jaybee
19-09-2000, 01:30 AM
Look, what partership do u want.
Beattie + Morrison £3m down the drain
McKenzie + Morrison These 2 would get 15 goals between them
Forssell + Morrison We wouldn't have Forssell next year
Harris + Morrison Harris is unproven and ain't shown quality yet
DYER + Morrison Dyer always scored 15 odd goals for us and Morrison netted 13 with 3 months out last season. We would save £2.7m and get 30 odd goals between them.
WHICH STRIKEFORCE DO U WANT?
jaybee
19-09-2000, 01:30 AM
Look, what partership do u want.
Beattie + Morrison £3m down the drain
McKenzie + Morrison These 2 would get 15 goals between them
Forssell + Morrison We wouldn't have Forssell next year
Harris + Morrison Harris is unproven and ain't shown quality yet
DYER + Morrison Dyer always scored 15 odd goals for us and Morrison netted 13 with 3 months out last season. We would save £2.7m and get 30 odd goals between them.
WHICH STRIKEFORCE DO U WANT?
Jaybee,
Can't agree with your reasoning.... Just because Dyer scored 15 goals for us 3 or 4 years ago, doesn't mean he would do the same now.
He is not a proven goalscorer and lets be honest here, at that price, why is no-one touching him with a barge pole?
palacenut
19-09-2000, 01:52 AM
Dyer is much than McKenzie so at 300k he would make a much better sub.
RDSdaEAGLE
19-09-2000, 03:09 AM
GET THIS>
Bruce Dyer was an INTEGRAL part of Barnsleys team last season. He scored more than 15 goals, and one of them was against us at home. As I remember, it was quite a good goal. We sold him for 750,000. The reason he is for sale is because he is unsettled, not because he's cr@p. 300,000 pounds is a ****ing bargain!
Jolly Norwegian
19-09-2000, 03:21 AM
It doesn't stop to surprise me... seeing all these people on the BBS wanting to buy former Palace-players! Why should we only get players that has been at the club before? Shouldn't Palace renew the squad, rather than taking steps back in time?
Neil the Eagle
19-09-2000, 03:39 AM
I don't normally agree with buying back ex-players, but at that price I'd make an exception. Compared to ridiculous price being asked for Shipps, he's a steal. I do think that if we went if him though, we'd get quoted a higher price.
He'd be good cover for when Morrison's shoulder next pops out. I love McKenzie's attitude but his finishing is too weak. Despite his profusion of comedy misses, he does regularly get amongst the goals.
Sadly, he's on record as not liking Alan Smith so I doubt a move is in the offing. Shame, we could have revived one of the best chants ever ... there's a Brooooooce looooooose about this hoooooose.
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henryhallandhisbasque
19-09-2000, 04:27 AM
£300? That would be a good deal.
interested in sydney.
19-09-2000, 11:21 AM
The Jolly Norge is right .As I've said before how many players go back to their former club and recapture their perceived old form.
Fat Andy
19-09-2000, 01:35 PM
Why are people saying that Dyer at that price would be good cover? we don't need cover,we need a first teamer that will score, he won't score from the subs bench.
It would be more than a step backwards in my opinion.
my problem with Bruce is his part time job as a DJ, and all the things that are attached to that life style. Sadly they dont fit in well with the life of a pro footballer.
Al From Bromley
19-09-2000, 03:07 PM
Isnt he a born again Chrisitan though? So all the discos he does would be strictly fizzy orange and wagon wheel affairs that finish about 10.30pm wouldnt they?
Originally posted by Al from Bromley:
Isnt he a born again Chrisitan though? So all the discos he does would be strictly fizzy orange and wagon wheel affairs that finish about 10.30pm wouldnt they?
No, no.... I remember seeing Bruces name on a poster for an all nighter at Adrenalin Village. Dont think they have wagon wheels at those, unless of course thats Bromley talk for a Disco Biscuit ??
Chorley Boy
19-09-2000, 05:24 PM
Am I rembering a different Bruce Dyer to everyone else?
I once stood up for Brucie when with only the keeper to beat, the Brucie bonus was sent well wide. Another 'fan' jumped up and shouted out "you stupid black (rude word)". I told the bloke to get a grip, never voice his attitudes at the Palace again or he'd be out. With hindsight I should have just called a steward, but in fairness he hasn't done it again.
Bruce on the other hand has blazed the ball wide, run up blind alleys, put his head down and not looked for the pass etc. He has a selfish attitude to the ball. He doesn't pass. Imagine playing Dyer and Morrison up front! Who would pass to who? Bringing back Bruce would be neither a step back or a mistake. It would be a crime!
I also find it amusing how many people on the BBS constantly want back ex-Palace players. I have no problem with these players, but, you have to go back nearly 10 years now to find a successful Palace team (based on Premeirship standards). Players like Shipperley and Dyer did well for Palace in Division One, but, really not in the Premiership. If Palace want to move forward and establish themselves in the Premiership, then the club needs to look for players that can achieve that standard.
Man of Kent
19-09-2000, 06:15 PM
No No No!
I had to shout at Bruce Dyer once to tell him that he was offside. He acknowledged me as well and ran back onside. Also I don't know of any other player that my work colleagues actually felt sorry for me about.
Look to the future.
I say again NO!
Nay, nay and thrice nay.
As some one else said it would be a crime at any price. This man is greedy inept and more than anything lazy. With Morrison strolling around at the moment blaming everyone else but himself and hardly ever breaking into a sweat the last thing we need is Dyer. We need a real power house who will run his heart out and has a finishing instinct. Ie McKenzie with skill.
jaybee
19-09-2000, 11:39 PM
He is better then MCKENZIE, HARRIS, FORSSELL ETC ETC.
HE SCORES BLOODLY GOALS WHICH WE R NOT SCORING.
HOW MANY DID HE SCORE LAST SEASON THEN IN HOW MANY GAMES?
jaybee has a point -
harris was blo*dy awful against burnley,
mackenzie couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo,
morrison is too lazy,
and forssell is obviously not rated very highly by smithy.
for 300k he's got to be worth a punt
rashid
20-09-2000, 01:02 AM
well he has scored again tonight in the Worthless Cup
Jaffa
20-09-2000, 01:55 AM
"For 300k he`d be a steal"
If I stole him, I`d damn well hand myself in.
I agree. Dyer is DIRE. If we get him back I will support Brighton.
orpington p/head in exile
21-09-2000, 03:11 AM
the only word has to be NO,we must not take backward steps if we want to challenge for places in the premier league.why can't we buy a proven goalscorer there must be some around who would come to selhurst ,even if we have to spend a few milion it would be worth it in the end.
Although I hate Dyer, 300K would be a great deal for the club, however...why waste money on a player that we don't need. Morisson and McKenzie are similar players and I think Morisson is better than Bruce was at the same age. Forsell has more skill but is just as annoying as Dyer.
Far better to spend the 300K (which he won't cost - Barnsley will want over a million for him easy) as part payment on a quality player who can do more than one move.
Chorley Boy
21-09-2000, 06:28 PM
Why are there so many threads about buying new strikers. Surely all we need to do is teach the current lot how to score. Smith should tell them to shoot on sight. I can't comment about the Burnley game (scored 2) or Norwich, but certainly at the last home game, they weren't having a go at the half chances. They were waiting for the keeper to step aside and say "after you".
They need to take the shot, not walk it in the net!
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lightweight
22-09-2000, 02:21 PM
at that price it might be worth a try - however dyer is too similar to morrison (who seems to be a dyer clone) and mckenzie doesn't offer much more variety except a bit more enthusiasm - however I think dyer might just score a few more goals than mckenzie..
arussell
22-09-2000, 02:41 PM
Ask yourself this question and then think about it again ....
Do you want a permanent fix to the solution or a short term one that might lead to us looking again in a year or so's time ??
Long Shanks
22-09-2000, 03:04 PM
As I am new to all this chit chat I will try not to be harsh, but why is anyone in their right mind interested in getting Dyer back?
He is only capable of producing one decent game in 5. Is this what we want?
We must look forward - Bruce is most definitely NOT the answer.
DUTCH
22-09-2000, 03:30 PM
Certainly don't think Dyer is the answer. Beattie may not have scored alot, but I think he had/has more protential.
jaybee
23-09-2000, 09:45 PM
He has now scored in the last 3 games for Barnsley. We need a goalscorer and he is cheap so tell me y not?
Maidstoned Eagle
27-09-2000, 04:25 AM
Dyer + Morrison = OFFSIDE!!
As an Arsenal supporter was once overheard to say " He couldn't be more aptly named if he was called Bruce Absolutely F***ing Useless"
Beattie, Furlong, Shipperley, Gabbiadini, Taylor, Preece, Roberts, Freedman anyone but Dyer PLLLLEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSE!
Originally posted by jaybee:
He has now scored in the last 3 games for Barnsley. We need a goalscorer and he is cheap so tell me y not?
1: He was NEVER going to be sold for 300K. That figure was just stupid. Had we enquired, the price would have been more like 3-4 times that.
2: Now that he has scored some goals Barnsley will want even more for him/may be reluctant to let him go/he may not want to come back here.
3: Signing him would be a HUGE step backwards. We ant to look to the future, not the average past.
4: Do we really need another average striker at Palace?
Don't look for the quick fix jaybee, we need to get a quality striker, not some bit part player.
jaybee
30-09-2000, 01:31 AM
Dyer is valued at £300k BECAUSE HE IS OUT OF CONTRACT AT THE END OF THE SEASON.
He also created the 3rd goal in the last match. His last 5 games ain't been bad.
That may be so, but you can bet that the fee will be a good deal higher than 300K either way. Still, it may not be a bad deal, but we have similar players in Morrison (who I rate better than Dyer) and McKenzie (who I don't). My bottom line is that if we are going to get a striker he has to offer something that the team doesn't already have AND he has to come at the right price.
Dyer may be priced OK, but we need a better and different player than him.
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