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Beckenham Boy
12-08-2009, 09:17 AM
Isn't Women's boxing going to be included? I assume it is not in the list as it is not a new sport as Men's boxing is already competed.

I go for Golf as this is a widely played sport worldwide. Perhaps Karate for the 2nd spot although I would prefer it to be Rugby but I doubt it is played in enough countries.

pauldrulez
12-08-2009, 09:51 AM
I would have gone for T20 cricket as one. But since not nominated.

Baseball and Squash.

Finbar
12-08-2009, 02:38 PM
I would have had darts and 9 ball but that's just me :)

selhurstparkflyer
12-08-2009, 02:40 PM
Sevens and baseball.

oz_da II
12-08-2009, 03:13 PM
Bass fishing and monster trucks.

Heb 7:4
12-08-2009, 03:22 PM
Darts

AJ's right boot
12-08-2009, 03:27 PM
Darts
DITTO

Funk Butter
12-08-2009, 03:57 PM
Bass fishing and monster trucks.
"Hey, I brought you some more videos. You've got your choice: pornos or monster trucks. Oh, and I got one that's both."

Ian Hart
12-08-2009, 05:41 PM
Darts

How many national associations actually play darts? I think there is some regulation that a minimum number (can't recall how many) have to be recognised for a sport to be considered.

etu
12-08-2009, 08:54 PM
Sevens and Karate is what I voted, but I'll admit to being a little indifferent. Will be interesting to see how they regulate who counts as amateur for the sake of Rugby sevens; I presume it'll be an arrangement similar to the football where there's a certain age... but I'm pretty certain that arrangement would allow Ireland f'instance to pick four Lions at the moment. Or maybe three, depending on whether Ferris would prefer to play for GB or Eire in such circs - I presume Ireland, but you never know. Be interesting to see how England/Scotland/Wales will handle banding together as team GB as well.

peagle
12-08-2009, 08:59 PM
Anyone who doesnt vote for Rugby Sevens is an idiot and has obviously never been to one of their events. It is perfect, atmosphere and excitement. Honest professionals with incredible athletic abilities for whom the olympics would become a pinacle of their year. If it doesnt gain a place we should boycott the olympics.

Alex De Large
13-08-2009, 06:00 AM
Karate and TKD are very similar, I would prefer to see Brazilian Jiu Jitsu instead of Karate. That and Sevens.

kayjay
13-08-2009, 06:04 AM
Sevens and roller derby.

RednBlue
13-08-2009, 08:19 AM
Fishing and extreme ironing. proper Corinthian sports.

Heb 7:4
13-08-2009, 09:34 AM
How many national associations actually play darts?
A lot. It is played in over 75 countries and Iran, for example, has 600,000 registered darts players.

Tournaments over here normally have representatives from between 30 - 40 countries, though even a small bit of googling shows that this can be more. The Winmau World Masters in 2007 for example invited players from 69 different countries.

Beckenham Boy
13-08-2009, 01:06 PM
Golf and rugby to join Olympics

Golf and rugby sevens will be recommended to be part of the Olympics from 2016, BBC Sport understands.

The International Olympic Committee's executive board will confirm the results of their voting in Berlin later on Thursday.

And the recommendation must be rubber-stamped by a full meeting of the IOC congress in Copenhagen in October.

Softball, squash, baseball, karate and roller sports were all shortlisted but look to have missed out.

Olympic golf was played in Paris in 1900 and four years later in St Louis.

One of the main issues has been whether top players will compete in the Olympics, when they already have a full schedule but superstar Tiger Woods indicated on Tuesday he would play.

Rugby union, which was last played at the 1924 Olympics in the full 15-a-side format, would return in the faster, short-format seven-a-side version for both men and women, which is part of the Commonwealth Games.

Ian Hart
13-08-2009, 01:18 PM
I've no problem with rugby (sevens). My objection to golf is the same as my objection to tennis being in the Olympics.

An Olympic Gold medal should be the pinnacle of someone's achievement in a sport - i.e. the event they strive to win more than any other. It's clear that will never apply to golf, where players (understandably) will feel their main aim is to win a Major, just as it is in tennis.

James Melody
13-08-2009, 01:27 PM
Darts

Is not a sport.

Ian Hart
13-08-2009, 01:46 PM
They did make one other significant decision this morning - that from 2012 the Boxing events will include Women's Boxing.

Heb 7:4
13-08-2009, 02:13 PM
Is not a sport.
Of course it is

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/darts/4378929.stm

Axie
13-08-2009, 02:38 PM
Crazy Golf would have been better. Tiger Woods trying to get his ball through the little windmill.

selhurstparkflyer
13-08-2009, 03:41 PM
Here here.

I've no problem with rugby (sevens). My objection to golf is the same as my objection to tennis being in the Olympics.

An Olympic Gold medal should be the pinnacle of someone's achievement in a sport - i.e. the event they strive to win more than any other. It's clear that will never apply to golf, where players (understandably) will feel their main aim is to win a Major, just as it is in tennis.

Oisin
13-08-2009, 04:26 PM
If sevens is approved they should try and get in an exhibition tournament during the 2012 Olympics or seek permission to run the World Cup at Twickenham or Wembley during the tournament.

I went to the Sevens world cup this year and i was surprised at how good the women were. Women's XVs is a bit pants but sevens is a game that rewards speed of hand, foot and brain and considering the women were all amateur you couldn't fault the quality of the play. It helped that most of the women's games were played on pitch two next to the wine tent

Oisin
13-08-2009, 04:28 PM
A lot. It is played in over 75 countries and Iran, for example, has 600,000 registered darts players.

Tournaments over here normally have representatives from between 30 - 40 countries, though even a small bit of googling shows that this can be more. The Winmau World Masters in 2007 for example invited players from 69 different countries.

They are trying to bring a big darts tournament to the UAE at the moment - a desert classic. Dubai and AD are both interested

PeterH
13-08-2009, 07:23 PM
I would like to T20 cricket as well.

kayjay
15-08-2009, 01:06 AM
I would have gone for T20 cricket as one. But since not nominated.

Baseball and Squash.
Squash is nearly as intersting as F1 :D

kayjay
15-08-2009, 01:08 AM
I reckon they should get rid of dressage and fencing...unless you were to combine the two and have jousting.

ozeagle
15-08-2009, 01:24 AM
No. Both are good. EO.

Greco-homo-wrestling should be owt!

Oisin
15-08-2009, 11:32 AM
I think they should get rid of football and tennis and golf is crazy too. The sports in the Olympics should have the Olympics as their main event. I like football and tennnis buy don't watch the Olympic tournaments because they don't matter in the big scheme of things.
Although I quite like the idea of jousting. On motorbikes.

Ian Hart
15-08-2009, 11:51 AM
I reckon they should get rid of dressage

I don't think it's treated as a sport on it's own. I think it's just part of the "3 day eventing" competition, which is itself just part of "Equestrian". These are the sports they currently allow, although I think that, for example, all the cycling events are grouped together to count as just one sport

Archery
Athletics
Badminton
Basketball
Beach Volleyball
Boxing
Canoe/Kayak Flatwater
Canoe/Kayak Slalom
Cycling BMX
Cycling Mountain Bike
Cycling Road
Cycling Track
Diving
Equestrian
Fencing
Football
Gymnastics Artistic
Gymnastics Rhythmic
Trampoline
Handball
Hockey
Judo
Modern Pentathlon
Rowing
Sailing
Shooting
Swimming
Synchronized Swimming
Table Tennis
Taekwondo
Tennis
Triathlon
Volleyball
Water Polo
Weightlifting
Wrestling

sirdougie
17-08-2009, 11:59 AM
Squash should have been picked. Has much wider global appeal than the others, played throughout Europe, North America, North Africa, Middle East, South ad SouthEast Asia and Australia. And it needs the exposure from the Olympics to boost participation.

Not like Golf and Rugby need more exposure and/or cash!

Heb 7:4
17-08-2009, 12:23 PM
No. Both are good. EO.

Greco-homo-wrestling should be owt!
You want to get rid of a sport that made its Olympic debut in 704 BC?

Get rid of football, basketball, tennis, rugby and speed walking

MasterYoda
17-08-2009, 12:34 PM
It's been said but the Olympics should be the pinnacle or at least on a par with the relevant World Championships.

Football in the olympics is seen as a mickey mouse comp, tennis is nothing like a major, golf would be the same, rugby has its worldcup and 7s is a play variant that is mostly used as an excuse for a corporate jolly.

Rowers, track cyclists, sailors, track and fielders, swimmings - all would agree one thing - competing in and winning Olympic Gold is the highlight and the dream of their careers.

Adlerhorst
17-08-2009, 01:10 PM
You want to get rid of a sport that made its Olympic debut in 704 BC?

Get rid of football, basketball, tennis, rugby and speed walkingYou have a bitch at ozeagle (easy I know - and I see he has moved on from racist comments to something else now) for ditching something that has its origins in 704BC, but want to ditch the walking.

You don't seriously think Pheidippides ran the whole way do you?

As for using historic events, I would bring back the Pankration and Chariot Racing.

I would ditch football, tennis and basketball, and now golf. I would let the sevens stay as long as the countries picked the same players as they do for the IRB sevens tournaments (i.e. i.e. players who this would be a big deal for).

Ian Hart
17-08-2009, 03:06 PM
You don't seriously think Pheidippides ran the whole way do you?



I've heard from a reliable source that he walked most of the way, and only started running when the TV cameras were on him. And I'm told he then faked the collapse when he reached Marathon, in order to promote shares in a new chocolate bar he was bringing out.

Beckenham Boy
09-10-2009, 08:25 AM
Golf & rugby await Olympic vote

Golf and rugby sevens are expected to be confirmed as Olympic sports on Friday and included in the programme for the 2016 Games in Rio de Janeiro.

The International Olympic Committee's executive board voted to include both at a meeting two months ago.

But the recommendation must be rubber-stamped by the 106 IOC members at a congress in Copenhagen.

A decision is expected by 1100 BST after a yes/no vote, with each sport needing a 51% majority to be approved.

However, the IOC insists neither will be included as a demonstration sport at the London 2012 Olympics.

The IOC ended the practice of demonstration sports in 1992 and neither taekwondo or triathlon, the two most recent additions to the Olympic programme at the Sydney 2000 Games, were trialled in Atlanta four years earlier.

Gilbert Felli, the IOC's executive director of Olympic Games, said: "We don't have any demonstration sports any more so we don't see either golf or rugby being demonstration sports in London."

Playing in the Commonwealth Games was a major highlight of my career and it gave me a taste of what it must be like as part of the Olympic family

Rugby great Jonah Lomu
Top golfers Padraig Harrington and Michelle Wie and New Zealand rugby great Jonah Lomu will be part of their sport's final presentations.

Softball, squash, baseball, karate and roller sports were also in contention for Olympic spots until being eliminated by the executive board vote in August.

Golf was played at the Paris Games in 1900 - when Walter Rutherford and David Robertson won silver and gold respectively for Great Britain - and four years later in St Louis, but has never returned to the Olympic agenda.

One of the main issues has been whether top players will compete in the Olympics when they already have a full schedule, but superstar Tiger Woods indicated on Tuesday he would play.

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"We have demonstrated that golf's bid to become an Olympic sport has received unprecedented support from golf organisations and leading players," said Ty Votaw, executive director of the International Golf Federation's Olympic Golf Committee.

"Now we must reaffirm this support before the full IOC membership."

The proposed format would be a 72-hole strokeplay competition for men and women, with 60 players in each field. The world's top 15 players would qualify automatically, and all major professional tours would alter tournament schedules to avoid a clash with the Olympics.

IOC president Jacques Rogge believes winning an Olympic gold medal will remain one of the main ambitions for top golfers, despite the traditional lure of the four major championships - the Masters, the Open, the US Open and the USPGA.

Rogge said in August: "This is the young generation that will be at its peak in 2016. The same question was raised time and time again when tennis and ice hockey were introduced.

Sevens is a great game and it could take up the first three or four days of the Olympic Games before the athletics starts

Former England coach Sir Clive Woodward
"Ask [top tennis players] Rafael Nadal and Roger Federer, ask the NHL players, ask the NBA basketball players. They all want to go to the Games - they are absolutely not concerned about that."

Rugby union, which was played in four different Olympics between 1900 and 1924 in the full 15-a-side format, will play the seven-a-side version for both men and women.

The International Rugby Board would scrap its Sevens World Cup to ensure the Olympics is the sport's top event. Sevens rugby is already part of the Commonwealth Games.

England's World Cup-winning coach Sir Clive Woodward believes the sport would be a worthy addition to the Olympics schedule in Rio.

"The bid submitted by the IRB has been very well received by the IOC - the sport have every chance of joining the Olympic family," he told BBC Radio Four.

"Sevens is a great game and it could take up the first three or four days of the Olympic Games before the athletics starts."

Lomu believes that the high-paced action, festival atmosphere and global appeal of the sevens format is the perfect fit for the Olympic Games.

"It would be fantastic for rugby and fantastic for the Games," said the winger, who won a Sevens gold medal with New Zealand at the 1998 Commonwealth Games.

"Playing in the Commonwealth Games was a major highlight of my career and it gave me a taste of what it must be like as part of the Olympic family competing on the world's greatest sporting stage.

"I was captivated and I just wish I could have competed for an Olympic gold medal.

"Sevens certainly has all the right ingredients. It is explosive, exciting, unpredictable and due to its highly-competitive nature, it gives the opportunity for smaller rugby nations to win a medal."

England manager Martin Johnson has confirmed the Rugby Football Union would make available any player selected for a Great Britain Olympic team.

chelmsfordeagle
09-10-2009, 01:55 PM
Glad they both got in. I'd prefer to see golf played as a team sport only, It would make it much more unique (as a major golf tournament) and for me more intresting. I'd do the same with Tennis, making it a mixed sexed tournament.

I think the olympics needs to move on a represent the most popular world sports. I know that means those people that compete in "minor" sports like the mutliple shooting events, wrestling etc miss out but that's just a move with the times. The Olympics needs to be as spectator friendly as it can.

chelmsfordeagle
09-10-2009, 01:56 PM
Of course it is

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/darts/4378929.stm
Darts is a game, whatever the sports council think. As is snooker. I like them both but they aren't for me sports. A sport requires, physical activity, skill and competition. Darts and snooker fail on the first one.

kolinkins
09-10-2009, 02:00 PM
How the fork is Golf an Olympic sport? Madness

chelmsfordeagle
09-10-2009, 02:10 PM
How the fork is Golf an Olympic sport? Madness

how hasn't it been for years? It's played in all 5 Olympic regions, in huge numbers,at all levals, by men and women. It practices all the Olympic ideals of fair play and competition. It's the perfect Olympic sport.

€pfc
09-10-2009, 02:40 PM
How the fork is Golf an Olympic sport? Madness

what should make up an Olympic sport then?

oz_da II
09-10-2009, 02:52 PM
The Olympics should be the pinnacle event in that sport.
For most golf professionals it would be of very little importance compared to tour events.

Golf Boy
11-10-2009, 07:51 PM
Greco-homo-wrestling should be owt!

probably played in more countries than rugger.

Golf Boy
11-10-2009, 07:53 PM
How the fork is Golf an Olympic sport? Madness

You're right Klinks -- golf is interesting so it doesn't fit in with the other Olympic sports.

Oisin
13-10-2009, 04:08 PM
The Olympics should be the pinnacle event in that sport.
For most golf professionals it would be of very little importance compared to tour events.

To quote from an article in my local paper

When the American athlete Jesse Owens, the stand-out performer in the 1936 Berlin Games and the ultimate Olympian, was informed by an interviewer that the so-called Olympic spirit had been snuffed out by successive boycotts, bribery and corruption, doping scandals and the like, he famously replied: “The young people that box and fence and swim and run and shoot and do all these things for the next 15 days have given up four years of their lives to win a gold medal.



“Hardly any of them will actually win anything but that doesn’t matter. When they go home to their hamlets and villages and towns, and mothers and fathers and sweethearts and wives, they can all say one thing with great pride: ‘I broke bread with the rest of the world’.”

Repeat Owens’ moving words to yourself: “I broke bread with the rest of the world.”

To Tiger Woods – and quite understandably – it has to be said, the Olympic golf tournament in Rio would be nothing more than an unappetising crumb sandwiched between the feast of golf’s four majors.



http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091012/SPORT/710119871/1004

Jason
18-07-2012, 06:24 PM
To quote from an article in my local paper

When the American athlete Jesse Owens, the stand-out performer in the 1936 Berlin Games and the ultimate Olympian, was informed by an interviewer that the so-called Olympic spirit had been snuffed out by successive boycotts, bribery and corruption, doping scandals and the like, he famously replied: “The young people that box and fence and swim and run and shoot and do all these things for the next 15 days have given up four years of their lives to win a gold medal.



“Hardly any of them will actually win anything but that doesn’t matter. When they go home to their hamlets and villages and towns, and mothers and fathers and sweethearts and wives, they can all say one thing with great pride: ‘I broke bread with the rest of the world’.”

Repeat Owens’ moving words to yourself: “I broke bread with the rest of the world.”

To Tiger Woods – and quite understandably – it has to be said, the Olympic golf tournament in Rio would be nothing more than an unappetising crumb sandwiched between the feast of golf’s four majors.



http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091012/SPORT/710119871/1004

And that is why, for all the corporate bullshit, doping scandals, politics, and all the rest of the stuff that has tried to tarnish what the games is about, the Olympics is still the greatest show on earth. It's also why the "minor" sports will have a place at the games as long as they are widely played, and why the likes of football, golf, tennis, and basketball have no business being part of it.