Palace 76 Cup Run [Archive]

henryhallandhisbasque

11-07-2000, 02:41 AM

Is there a video available, or footage contained in a general Palace tape of the 1976 FA Cup run? It would be great to Malcolm's side beating the likes of Leeds, Chelsea, Sunderland etc, whilst still a 3rd Division team

Glaws Eagle

11-07-2000, 01:52 PM

I asked BBB about 9 months ago for a copy of the victory over Chelsea. As it was on MOTD I though it would be a good place to start.

This was their reply....

"Unfortunately a video is not commercially available for this programme and due to copyright, contractual and economic reasons we are unable to provide a one-off copy. I am sorry I cannot be of further assistance on this occasion."

Glaws Eagle

11-07-2000, 01:53 PM

Sorry, that should be BBC, not BBB.

Glazier

11-07-2000, 02:11 PM

I have video footage of Quarter-Final victory v. Chelsea with Peter Taylor discussing his contribution to the game obtained from a programme a few years back called 'There's only one Brian Moore' showed on ITV late on a Friday night. Does this help/can anyone remember it?

Glaws Eagle

11-07-2000, 06:12 PM

Cheers Glazier,

I'll give ITV a try.

They might be a bit more forthcoming than Auntie Beeb.

I have seen little bits of the Chelsea game, but not of the whole game.

Now that's what I call a victory!!

James Varcoe

11-07-2000, 06:19 PM

I was in the audience, doesn't really help though!!

ruediger

11-07-2000, 07:11 PM

Did you wear that famous fedora at the cemetery end, James?

James Varcoe

11-07-2000, 07:18 PM

I have a video of highlights from the Leeds game. Thet are only very brief but if anyone wants to borrow it they are more than welcome.
It does contain a fantastic interview with Allison where he is just so matter of fact about it you'd think we had beaten Chorlton cum Hardy thirds

ajp

12-07-2000, 02:01 AM

I was born in 76' so I'm far to young to remember the FA cup run. However I've got a 1976 FA Cup Semi Final Palace versus Southampton programme which I picked up from a junk shop in South Croydon once.

ammiller

12-07-2000, 01:09 PM

Over here in Dublin, there is a surplus of videos titled "Terry Venables - a life in football".

It has approx 2 mins highlights of Leeds (about 4 seperate incidents including the goal - "It had to happen" - and a nice bit of Peter Taylor roastin Paul Reaney. It also has a couple of interviews with Big Mal - 1 straight after the game where he is wearing that Fedora.

Anyway, last I looked, they were on sale for £1 - so if anyone wants me to get them one, I will bring it next time I am over.

ammiller

12-07-2000, 01:14 PM

Originally posted by Glazier on 07-11-2000 10:11 AM
I have video footage of Quarter-Final victory v. Chelsea with Peter Taylor discussing his contribution to the game obtained from a programme a few years back called 'There's only one Brian Moore' showed on ITV late on a Friday night. Does this help/can anyone remember it?

Glazier, was that a program presented by a fat spurs supporting Christopher Biggins lookalike (Danny something?)?.

If it was, it was a brilliant program, with Big Mal there as well, and Jim Cannon and Swindle in the audience.

I thought they showed highlights of the whole cup run on that program?

Can you e-mail me please?

Tony

12-07-2000, 08:52 PM

I was in the audience for There's Only One Brian Moore (about 1993??). It was the Leeds match they showed as that was on the Big Match on the Sunday. The BBC covered the Chelsea game. On the same programme, TOOBM also showed a Tottenham match from around the same era Ð again starring Peter Taylor (it might have been the 9-0 v Bristol Rovers).

Taylor was the star guest, I think, Cannon and Swindle were indeed there. The presenter was an 'ironic' bald (as in Kojak shaved) chap.

I leant the video to someone and they never returned it, so that's the last I'll ever see of it, curses.

sharpeshooter1

12-07-2000, 09:26 PM

Best of luck with the Film of the Match, Ihave been looking for years to obtain a copy; I was there, I think that the Leeds fans were not very happy, as our bus got a few bricks thru the windows, the support that evening was great we never stopped singing, all the papers were full of what Leeds were going to do in the cup before the game but the Eagles were flying high that eveninghttp://www.cpfc.org/ubb/blue.gifnd feeling very glad all over!! any one remember the Rail travellers Club, happy days. so keep singing Eagles-Eagles.

Neil the Eagle

12-07-2000, 09:36 PM

Originally posted by Tony on 07-12-2000 04:52 PM

I leant the video to someone and they never returned it, so that's the last I'll ever see of it, curses.

Tony, come & talk to your Uncle Neil. I'm sure I've got a copy of it lurking back at Ma & Pa's, if not I know a few others to call on. I'll sort you out a copy ...

Have you still got the "Palace Jesters" programme - the one that got me in sackloads of trub with Pete King? I seem to have mislaid my copy of it.

Les Butler

12-07-2000, 09:48 PM

Coming out of Leeds we had to put the seats against the train windows as the Leeds fans were chucking bricks from the bridges.
We had to have a police escort to and from the train station cause of the idiots.

Great time of our Palace lives that cup run.

When we got into the ground my old man said "keep it quite" And I mean it ! as we are amongst more Leeds fans.
When Palace scored he was the only one to jump up and dance and then preceded to give it to all the Leeds fans around him.
I was nearly crawling under the seat as him and a Leeds fan nearly came to blows.
And we nearly got chucked out because of him......I did tell mum and he got crap "again"

Like I said great times. Would love to be able to get a video.

henryhallandhisbasque

13-07-2000, 01:38 AM

Going by the response, there seems quite a bit of interest in the 76 Cup Run.

I was about 14 at the time, and I cannot convey in words, the excitement of that period for Palace fans. When we got to the semi-final to play an unfancied Southampton team, I thought it was meant to be, and that Malcolm would take us all the way, but it wasn't.

Now the club is on a better footing, why don't they produce a video of 1976? I think they would sell quite a few, particularly as at the time there were no comercially available video recorders, and all people like me have is memories in my head. I presume it's down to those intransigent sods at the Beeb and ITV refusing to budge on releasing their footage.

Wasn't Romark involved in hypnotising the boys for the semi-final?

gcwhite

13-07-2000, 01:44 AM

Anyone remember the Scarborough game in the previous round? All I can recall was that it was bloody cold. Also, at the end of the match a load of Scarborough 'bovver boys' game rushing across the pitch to confront the Palace fans. Their average age seemed to about 14 and they were greeted by chants of "Bay City Rollers". Funny how these things stick in your mind. I can't recall anything at all about the match.

Al From Bromley

13-07-2000, 03:03 AM

So long ago now, yet still one of the great times to be a Palace supporter.

Imagine - 3rd Division team coming up against the likes of Leeds, Chelsea and Sunderland (all of whom were pretty big clubs then).and kicking their asses?

I really thought we were going to win the cup that year. Sadly the semi against Southampton was a terrible game which should have gone to a replay . To make matters worse I was accosted on the way home by a bunch of Arsenal fans who were determined to nick my scarf. Terrible day, but the cup run was briliant.

Les, were you at Sunderland? We might have run from the train to the ground together if you were on the one that broke down.

Glazier

13-07-2000, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by ammiller on 07-12-2000 09:14 AM

Glazier, was that a program presented by a fat spurs supporting Christopher Biggins lookalike (Danny something?)?.

If it was, it was a brilliant program, with Big Mal there as well, and Jim Cannon and Swindle in the audience.

I thought they showed highlights of the whole cup run on that program?

Can you e-mail me please?

I think the programme was presented by someone with the surname Finn/Flynn. Dennis Waterman was the narrator.

Peter Taylor (wearing his claret and blue striped shirt) and Malcolm Allison were being interviewed, with Malcolm recalling the famous incident when Fiona Richmond jumped in the bath with all the Palace lads. Apparantly Venables jumped out and ran a mile.

There is brief highlights of the semi v. Southampton, but lots of crowd footage of our goal celebrations from the Chelsea game,
also Ray Bloye and Big Mal (with Fedora) celebrating from the stand.

Aagh Wonderful days!

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Gazza1

13-07-2000, 01:59 PM

My father (Howard Jones) helped Maurice Drewitt run the Rail Travellers club in the mid 1970's. As a 9 year old in 1976 I went to every game that season.

We took 4 Football special trains to Leeds. and local double decker buses were laid on to take all fans from rail station to ground. After we won, the Leeds fans put through almost every window on every bus on way back to the station.

We took 6 Football special trains to Sunderland for qtr-final. Crowd was around 50,000. Unfortunately, some trains arrived late and some fans missed part/all of game thanks to British Rail. As compensation they laid on free Football special trains to a later league game at Mansfield (1-1 draw I think).

On trains back from Leeds there were congas going up and down length of train and massive celebrations.

We won 3-1 at Scarnorough in an earlier round (game shown on Match of the Day as they thought there was a chance of an upset). Game away at Chelsea (5th round) was also marred by violence - loads of fights in stands and on pitch.

Chocky

13-07-2000, 10:53 PM

Like to get to know you well,
Like to get to know you well,
Like to get to know you well,
So we can we can be one, together- er.

Sorry!

Pistike

14-07-2000, 03:53 AM

I was 14 in 1976! I didn't like football!
Or Howard Jones!

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interested in sydney.

14-07-2000, 02:26 PM

The rail travellers club. I was in that and remember the trip to Sunderland, got in a punch up around the corner from the station, and as the train pulled out the coppers made us pull the blinds down. just as well as the train got bombarded by those sporting Sunderland fans. The semi that year Taylor crocked game over, not a penalty and I got pissed and gave me fedora away in the Bricklayers Arms Sydenham.

interested in sydney.

14-07-2000, 02:26 PM

Jack Regan

14-07-2000, 02:44 PM

I was in the Rail Travellers Club too. I've still got my pass which was an old style BR cardboard ticket with 'CPFC Rail Travellers Club - 1976' on it.

If there's ever a Palace museum opened up I've got loads of useless memorabilia like that they can have !

Chris K

14-07-2000, 03:00 PM

There is a Palace video that came out during the 90's called six of the best or something. This had the Man Utd 5-0 plus some others from the 70's next time I am at my dads I will have a look for you because I know he bought this. But it doesn't feature the whole cup run.

Gazza1

14-07-2000, 05:57 PM

Thankfully I was in the seats at Sunderland and I'm surprised that I'm not suffering from some sort of post-traumatic stress disorder witnessing the violence during the cup run as a 9 year old.

There was the fighting on the pitch at Chelsea. Not helped by Big Mal (Malcolm Allison)walking up to front of The Shed before the game and giving them the thumbs down! All the windows being put through on buses on way back to station at Leeds (all way from ground to station were just giant fields of bricks as local council was half way through a redevelopment project). And then there was Sunderland!

Still, I think that it was the best season for supporting Palace. The cup wins were not lucky wins, they were all thoroughly deserved.

The following season we went away to the mighty Liverpool and drew 0-0 and only didn't win 'cos Clemence pulled off 3 brilliant saves. Lost the replay 3-2 at Selhurst after Doris had given us the lead.

Eagle El

15-07-2000, 12:22 AM

My worst memory of '76 semi's was piles of burning fedora's after the game on the Stamford Bridge terraces, and my mate Joe saying "Just think ~ a couple of hours ago, we were all happy and laughing....." He was almost sent over the bridge into the Thames, bless 'im!!

AnotherPete

15-07-2000, 01:15 AM

I just remember after the game seeing the c**t McNemeny being interviewed wearing his f'ing bowler hat trying to be so cool, when his **** team had just come on the pitch and kicked the crap out of us. They would have got slaughtered if they tried to play football . . *******s. Saints were my first real hate - Millwall was just a tradition in those days and they were so much harder than us then it was no contest. And then came the Man U scum.

So my question is, can you REALLY hate 2 teams at the same time ?

gcwhite

15-07-2000, 02:13 AM

I well remember the Semi Final as it was my 25th birthday, April 3rd 1976. So next year will be the 25th anniversary of the match and I'll be er... quite old. Southampton were a horrible team in those days and I recall that Rodrigues as good as put Peter Taylor out of the game in the first 15 minutes. Still, we celebrated my birthday in the usual fashion and the pain had eased after about the fifth pint. Let's face it you have to get used to disappointments if you are going to be a Palace fan.

Gazza1

15-07-2000, 04:02 AM

The Rail Travellers club in the 1970's always got letters from the station masters and police at away venues thanking them for how well organised they were and how well behaved everybody was.

This was due to two things. Firstly, no Rail travellers pass = no travel on the football special trains. If you misbehaved your pass was taken away. Secondly,they had the bright idea of making the hard nuts stewards on the trains. They got free travel in return for making sure that everybody behaved themselves. So you did not dare misbehave on the train or at the station.

Of the six trains that went to Sunderland for the qtr-final in 1976 - first 3 arrived on time no problem. Iwas on 4th one and we missed first 15 minutes of game. Those on the 5th one got in ground just before half time and those on the 6th did not get in the ground at all as they arrived after half time and all entrances had been shut.

The Sunderland fans were nutters. As we left ground my Dad said to me - "Keep your mouth shut (accent being a give away) and look sad".

Al From Bromley

15-07-2000, 04:13 AM

I well remember the Sunderland nutters. After we scored they piled in to our enclosure and started laying into anyone with palace colours on. After a load of Palace and Sunderland had been pulled out and carted off by the police indiscriminately I was so shook up I decided to leave the ground 10 mins before the end. Even then there were hundreds of them outside the ground just waiting for us to come out. I've never been so thankful I chose to leave my colours at home that day.

And yes, i also remember having to pull the blinds on the train just in case a brick should arrive through the window. Happy days!

Lord Flange

15-07-2000, 08:41 PM

Along the same lines , has anyone got any idea if there is any video footage of Burnley 1979. Have always wondered what it looked like on film to see selhurt with over 51,000 crammed inside. As i was only 5 at the time my father did not take me and his memory of events is absolutly appalling. Have had to rely on pictures mainly from the brilliant "we all follow the palace " book and one of rev sands a-z bibles. In fact the only game i have got on video from that year is a wonderfull performance against Brighton at selhurst in which we won 3-1 and in front of 35,000 and a packed hazy old whitehorse lane end . Vince Hillaire sparkled and Alan Mullary looked most pissed off . Hmmm might have to go and have another look at that me thinks

henryhallandhisbasque

15-07-2000, 11:44 PM

I have loathed Southampton ever since they beat us in that semi-final. They are certainly in my top five hate list, along with Everton, Millwall, Man U, and Brighton

Archiebald Leitch

17-07-2000, 12:12 AM

Originally posted by Lord Flange on 07-15-2000 04:41 PM
Along the same lines , has anyone got any idea if there is any video footage of Burnley 1979.

Visit James Mitchell & Tony H's site and you will find mpgs of the goals.

Lord Flange

17-07-2000, 01:52 AM

Thanks for the tip. Had a look on Tony's site, but no joy. Mind you the download page was out of action.

Archiebald Leitch

17-07-2000, 02:03 AM

Flange, I have mailed vid clips to you, hope you get them ok.

Lord Fruity

17-07-2000, 02:21 AM

Any chance of sending them my way after Flange?

Lord Flange

17-07-2000, 03:22 AM

ARCHIBALD....sorry to be a pain but i have not received the clips. Can you please try again when you get the chance?? many thanks for your efforts

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Blind_Eagle

18-07-2000, 02:25 PM

Anyone else on here used to drink in the Shirley Poppy back in the '70's when Roy was manager?. He had the most brilliant set of b & w photos of the Burley game - well the crowd actually - framed and hanging on the walls. Incredible shots that showed the pitch covered with fans and all the stands and terraces still packed with everyone celebrating wildly.

I've often wondered what ever happened to those pictures

Eagle El

18-07-2000, 11:21 PM

HH and his B,
Does the Everton bit stem from John Hughes being sent off after rescuing the ref from an irate scouse fan in the 2-2 F A cup draw, or is it because they are a boring load of s**t? Mind you Gazza will atone a bit next year!

Archiebald Leitch

22-07-2000, 12:47 AM

Flange, see your pmail.

Lord Flange

22-07-2000, 03:59 AM

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James

25-07-2000, 02:48 PM

I assume that they are my mpg clips flying around?

I have an original Betamax copy of the Burnley goals, and I prepared mpg clips about a year ago (which were made available on the BBS). At some time or other, I have also prepared clips of all the 1976 Cup Goals.

They should be on the 'net somewhere. I'll have a look when I have a moment, and link to them.

James