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Brumie Allan
19-09-2009, 04:09 PM
3 Points 1-0 against Derby last time we won was 1-0 against Derby, can we play Derby every week. Sounded like Speroni got the MOTM from Palace Radio even after his early mistake.

Fat Andy
19-09-2009, 04:32 PM
I thought Danns played well. Speroni made 2 quality saves but shouldn't have been on the pitch. My MOM is Ertl, not outstanding but as a non regular, thought he put in a hell of a lot of groundwork, won everything in the air and was unluck when he hit the bar.

Super-Ste-Cious
19-09-2009, 04:38 PM
Speroni without a shadow of a doubt. Though shouldnt have been on the pitch.

Very impressed with Etrl & Scannell also.

cpfcmazz
19-09-2009, 04:40 PM
Speroni, had he not been there 3 certain goals would have been scored

jams1234
19-09-2009, 04:40 PM
Speroni-3 world class saves today.

David Amsalem
19-09-2009, 04:41 PM
Easiest decision of the day.

Charlieboy
19-09-2009, 04:50 PM
Speroni man of the match, but Ertl in his first game today I thought looked a really good player.

jams1234
19-09-2009, 04:51 PM
No votes for Danns and Butterfield-am surprised at that.

mrdance88
19-09-2009, 04:54 PM
Speroni. What a man. :cool: MOM

Ertl made a very positive impact and shall surely start next game. Got stuck in and made himself available too.

Derry had a good game too on his milestone.

Maz
19-09-2009, 05:06 PM
But for Jules we would have lost.

sw16girl
19-09-2009, 05:09 PM
Has to be Speroni but when people say that all decisions go against us I think the ref's decision to only give him a yellow card is one we can notch up on the plus side

jams1234
19-09-2009, 05:17 PM
Has to be Speroni but when people say that all decisions go against us I think the ref's decision to only give him a yellow card is one we can notch up on the plus side
Really? What are the rules regarding handling outside the area?

Barbara4003
19-09-2009, 05:17 PM
Has to be Speroni but when people say that all decisions go against us I think the ref's decision to only give him a yellow card is one we can notch up on the plus side

It was difficult to see from where I was sitting, but was it not on the line rather than outside the box?

jams1234
19-09-2009, 05:17 PM
It was difficult to see from where I was sitting, but was it not on the line rather than outside the box?
I'm in Block B, row 8 so had a perfect view. Definitely outside the box.

Barbara4003
19-09-2009, 05:19 PM
I'm in Block B, row 8 so had a perfect view. Definitely outside the box.

OK. He was very lucky then.

jams1234
19-09-2009, 05:23 PM
OK. He was very lucky then.
Was he really though?

As said before, what are the actual rules on goalkeepers handling outside of the area?

How different is it from a deliberate handball by a player? That is only a caution unless it is denying a goal-scoring chance.

Barbara4003
19-09-2009, 05:25 PM
Was he really though?

As said before, what are the actual rules on goalkeepers handling outside of the area?

How different is it from a deliberate handball by a player? That is only a caution unless it is denying a goal-scoring chance.

Everyone around me assumed he would get a straight red for it.

I don't know the rules.

jams1234
19-09-2009, 05:32 PM
After Beatleboy's clarification on the rules, we were not very lucky at all, it was just a great refereeing decision.

Barbara4003
19-09-2009, 05:33 PM
After Beatleboy's clarification on the rules, we were not very lucky at all, it was just a great refereeing decision.

Fair enough :)

Fat Andy
19-09-2009, 05:46 PM
He was lucky, regardless of the actual rules. Whenever you see a goalie handle outside the area the majority of the time they get a red card.

CPFC_DAVE77
19-09-2009, 05:50 PM
Ertl.

IAN WALSH
19-09-2009, 06:06 PM
i never went today but can i vote lawrence seeing as he didnt play he done the defence a favour

Chris K
19-09-2009, 06:09 PM
Would have been Danns were it not for three wonder saves from Jules

jams1234
19-09-2009, 06:14 PM
He was lucky, regardless of the actual rules. Whenever you see a goalie handle outside the area the majority of the time they get a red card.
So? There was no luck about it, we just had a very good referee today. Lucky would be described for a 50-50 decision, or a freak decision like Bristol were lucky with our phantom goal but Jules not getting sent off today had no luck to do with it.

Oli28
19-09-2009, 06:14 PM
Butterfield made some great tackles, but its impossible to give MOM to anyone other than Jules, he made some great saves.
The handball did seem deliberate to me, he knew it was outside the box which is why he hesitated when picking it up, so i think we were a bit lucky there.

Overall we were very good defensively

Fat Andy
19-09-2009, 06:27 PM
So? There was no luck about it, we just had a very good referee today. Lucky would be described for a 50-50 decision, or a freak decision like Bristol were lucky with our phantom goal but Jules not getting sent off today had no luck to do with it.

If say, seven out of ten times a goalie is sent off in that situation then , yes, I do class it as lucky personally. I think the majority of people in the ground thought he was going to walk.

jams1234
19-09-2009, 06:27 PM
Butterfield made some great tackles, but its impossible to give MOM to anyone other than Jules, he made some great saves.
The handball did seem deliberate to me, he knew it was outside the box which is why he hesitated when picking it up, so i think we were a bit lucky there.

Overall we were very good defensively
Even if it was deliberate doesn't mean we werel ucky.

philsick
19-09-2009, 06:35 PM
Danns

TopKnot
19-09-2009, 06:36 PM
Speroni is currently our most valuable player by an absolute mile. He has saved our asses on numerous occasions including today, when he doesn't play we look horribly uneasy.

I'm surprised (but not displeased) that he hasn't attracted any attention from bigger clubs tbh.

TopKnot
19-09-2009, 06:37 PM
So? There was no luck about it, we just had a very good referee today. Lucky would be described for a 50-50 decision, or a freak decision like Bristol were lucky with our phantom goal but Jules not getting sent off today had no luck to do with it.

The ref could have judged that he stopped a goal scoring opportunity, then he would have been off. So yes he was lucky.

jams1234
19-09-2009, 06:39 PM
The ref could have judged that he stopped a goal scoring opportunity, then he would have been off. So yes he was lucky.
And by the same token the referee could have judged that the ball went past Derby's goal-line a milisecond before the incident, and the ball somehow flew towards our box. So, in that case, we were unlucky.

Sussex Eagle
19-09-2009, 06:39 PM
Speroni is currently our most valuable player by an absolute mile. He has saved our asses on numerous occasions including today, when he doesn't play we look horribly uneasy.

I'm surprised (but not displeased) that he hasn't attracted any attention from bigger clubs tbh.
Not displeased is right, no fee would be worth selling Jules, chances are we'd go down without him - might have done last year, even. Doubt Neil will start playing the "I'd never sell him, well maybe for x million" game with him in the press this time.

herts_palace
20-09-2009, 01:50 PM
Derry for me. Has has been excellent last few games. Jules would have got it but his hand ball was a serious mistake and he was very lucky not to be sent off.

herts_palace
20-09-2009, 01:52 PM
I was also seriously impressed by Sean Scannell, he had an excellent game and he worked thye Derby defence really well. If only we could align Sean's industry with Victor's skill.

jams1234
20-09-2009, 02:08 PM
The votes sum our performance up very well-no player had a poor game, and Ertl, Speroni, Danns and Derry were our standout performers.

cranesparkeagle
20-09-2009, 11:26 PM
I thought the Speroni decision could have gone either way but I think we haven't had much from refs this season so maybe that was pay-back.I was blissfully unaware of any penalty shouts till after the game only of Robbie Savage running after the ref all game. Fortunately the BBC indulged him more than the ref did allowing every one in the country to see what a **** he is.

Jer
21-09-2009, 12:36 AM
The votes sum our performance up very well-no player had a poor game, and Ertl, Speroni, Danns and Derry were our standout performers.

Funny, I thought Neil Danns was OK at best in the first half and poor in the second when hardly anything he tried with the ball came off. Apart from his effort, what's giving him these good reviews? He just doesn't seem comfortable with the ball or moving it forwards.

sLlll
21-09-2009, 03:04 AM
Speroni for me. We still look good on paper. I hope the hard fought win will springboard our season.