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It is only specualtion of course but reports at the moment suggest that Palace might be signing Forsell, Fitzgerald and even a mystery left back on loan.
I am against the idea of signing players on loan. Obviously with us needing to strengthen the squad last year and not being able to sign anyone it made sense. But now we must be signing players on a permanent basis, we are no ones nursery club after all.
I also don't like the idea of some of our key players only being with us short term, we need to have players on a permanent basis.
21-07-2000, 11:50 PM
Could they be loan signings with a view to a long term move. No point in signing a player and then finding out hes ****e!!!!!!!!!
22-07-2000, 12:41 AM
i don't see any problem with signing players on loan especially at the moment.
If we can get decent players for a year, without paying an over inflated fee than that has to be good.
Signing people on loan lets us get cover in the areas we are weak, while we get our scouting system back on its feet and work out who we really want to sign
It used to be argued, and still is I suppose, that a loan player could never have his heart completely at the club so couldn't give it everything. However, Paul Stewart was the first to change my opinion of that, and Ashley Cole reinforced it - they both a) gave 100% and b) seemed to care. In an ideal world we wouldn't need loan players, but we don't yet live in an ideal world!
22-07-2000, 01:46 AM
I thin the problem is with getting a laon player say we go up next season, we have 2-3 loan players, we will HAVE to buy players for the premiership and it will disrupt the team bringing in 2 many players at one time!... we need to sign at the moment!
'The wise will one day rise'
Leap of faith
22-07-2000, 02:25 AM
I think we must strengthen the side immediately, but Coppell must not be too wasteful with the money. I think loan signings aren't the best idea either but if it gives us added strength right at the beginning of the season, then i'm all for it and it will give Steve and any future scouts, a bit more chance to look at other players which may be available.
22-07-2000, 02:29 AM
The only problem with loan players is if they start doing the business, then their clubs either recall them or their valuation goes through the roof. Spose we got Forsell, he started banging in the old goals, and fat cat Chelsea have injury problems. They gonna let us keep him then?
22-07-2000, 02:43 AM
If Chelsea loan us us Forsell for a season they loan him for a season. I think there must be an understanding there, if not an actual contract (but I think there is an actual contract) I liked him last season despite the fact he'd been out for 4 months and was obviously not 100% fit. A fit Forsell could be excellent for us. If they decided to sell him to us we could be looking at a lot of dough. So, what if he turns out to be no better than last season? A fat fee may not be the best. Lets have him on loan if we can, and if he turns out to be that good then pay a fat fee. If not, send him back.
I reckon loan players at this stage may not neccesarily be the way to go, but don't knock it. We don't have money to throw about. We have to spend wisely.
Having said all that, ain't it great just to be able to talk about transfers again, loan or otherwise.
All the best to Steve & Simon in the market.
22-07-2000, 02:46 AM
Eve if they agreed to loan him to us for a season, they would make sure they could recall him if required
22-07-2000, 03:46 AM
correct me if I'm wrong, 'cos I really don't know, but I think if a loan spell over and above a certain period of time is agreed, including season long loans, a player cannot be recalled without certain dispensation from the F.L. (under certain circumstances I think players cannot be loaned, or should that be lent? for more than 3 months without certain dispensation) and with Chelsea having a squad the size of Europe itself they'd need some sort of disaster to recall a player they'd be happy to put out on loan in the first place.
Like I say, I don't really know for sure so if you know different let me know.
Isn't it funny how administration makes you more inquisitive!
Paul Stewart was mentioned by JJ in this thread as an example of a good lone signing. Sure Stewart was good and we should of signed him in 94. To get such a good player in and then let him go was stupid and an example of a missed oppertunity at that time.
Secondly it looks like ch@lsea will not let us buy Forsell. We can't win, even if the player does well he'll either soon be back at the bridge, or we'll hold onto him for the whole season and then lose an important part of our squad. Maybe I can understand the Fitzgerald case for a loan a bit more because he could come on loan as a sort of trail to a move if he's good.
I think though that any loaning of players should be very much a short term option and not for months on end or even a whole season.
22-07-2000, 05:23 AM
The loan idea is a good one.
I for one am getting a little bit p*ssed off with the way some are already taking our foray into the transfer market for granted, and how quickly some have turned against players that gave their all for us last season, without any guarantee of a salary.
A few shrewd loans and cheap buys, bearing in mind Stevie's proven record with these type of players, will go along way to stabilising things at Selhurst.
Surely that's the best we can hope for, and have a right to expect, this season.
With all the talk of incoming players and transfer fees, we seem to have lost sight of the fact that we have a few good youngsters coming through.
I'm fed up with seeing criticism of the likes of Woozley and Frampton.
Maybe it's a good idea, though not as immediately satisfying, to strengthen the club a little now, and buy some more time to bring our own youngsters on.
Jordan can't win.
Splash the cash, and he's Goldberg MK II, keep a tight rein on the purse strings and he's not up for it.
Remember where we were just a few weeks ago, and give thanks that anyone wants to play for us now.
Oh, and get over Cole, people, it ain't gonna happen.
22-07-2000, 09:35 AM
Originally posted by Marco on 07-21-2000 07:50 PM
No point in signing a player and then finding out hes ****e!!!!!!!!!
When has that ever happened to us before? http://www.cpfc.org/ubb/sarcblink.gif
Anyway, well said Stellavista. Now that the players have shown faith and loyalty towards the club, its time we repay the favour. They ARE a good bunch of players, and with a bit of strengthening we can do well this season. Some people just seem to be taking a squad rebuild for granted already.
22-07-2000, 09:36 AM
Oh, and there is every indication that these two lads we have signed could be every bit as good as Cole with a little bit of nurturing. I guess we will see this afternoon if they play at Crawley
Well I think one thing we can all agree with is that we have a great squad of players here at the Palace. Stella & Bud are both right and we should show faith in those players. But our club has been through a rough time and it's only natural that we want things to improve.
Now however we have a new backer and I'm deeply grateful to Simon Jordan for saving my team. However whilst I don't take anything for granted, as a supporter who cares deeply for this club it's only natural to want things to change. In my view we need to bring in three experianced players permanently to improve the side significantly enough to be pushing for a top ten finish. I've got patience and I'd go whatever happened to the team and so what's so wrong with having a bit of ambition as well?
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