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James
28-07-2012, 07:52 PM
First, the good stuff. The 23 additional BBC HD Olympic channels on the Sky platform are brilliant. The coverage is about as comprehensive as it could possibly be.

... and then the bad. It has been mentioned in passing on other threads, but the 'drumming' before and after all replays of all sports by the BBC is driving me to distraction. How much longer do we have to put up with this unnecessary, distracting, nonsense?

Is there anyone who likes it (or even doesn't mind it)?

maestro
28-07-2012, 07:59 PM
The cycling coverage was diaboical, the presenters didnt have any clue what was going on, they didnt ever mention the names of the riders or have the timing gaps.

James
28-07-2012, 08:01 PM
The cycling coverage was diaboical, the presenters didnt have any cue what was going on, they didnt ever mention the names of the riders or have the timing gaps.
I agree that it wasn't brilliant - but by all accounts they were not helped with the information given to them. It seems that all they had were the pictures we were watching.

... but what about that ******* drumming?

Archiebald Leitch
28-07-2012, 08:15 PM
There is no place for drumming in sport :)

Gooders
28-07-2012, 08:22 PM
Or cycling.

Guntrisoft
28-07-2012, 09:19 PM
I'm one of the developers who worked on the BBC's online video player for the Olympics so I can answer your questions :)

The swoosh sound comes from the OBS video feed, so something that the BEEB can't do anything about.

The cycling time information was also a OBS issue:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/jul/28/bbc-olympic-broadcasting-services-cycling?newsfeed=true

Any other questions let me know, and i'll do my best to answer them! :)

Micky Spilane
28-07-2012, 09:37 PM
Sound has been very hit and miss, couldn't hear the national anthem during Lochte's medal ceremony.

Excowboy
28-07-2012, 09:51 PM
I'd be grateful for some dragon-boat style drumming in the rowing if it drowned out the blithering of the commentators.

Palestinian
28-07-2012, 10:54 PM
Fed up with using experts that know nothing about the spot that they know nothing about, Tanni Grey T reporting on cycling, getting Michael Johnson, Kelly Holmes and John McEnroe to talk about swimming, cycling and gymnastics - crazy. I guess tomorrow will see Chris Boardman on sailing, Lineker on 3 day eventing and Colin Jackson on weightlifting There are enough experts on every sport to get those in rather than the stupid way they are presenting it.

As for the cycling, while Imcan accept the problems with lack of gaps and distances to go weren't the Beeb's fault, the re-run I watched (after coming back from near Box Hill) showed little imagination in terms of camera use, made little use of overhead shots and felt as if it were 90% from the back of a single motorcycle. ITV manage much, much better with their low budget coverage of city centre criterium races (the Tour Series) and the Tour of Britain.

Things can only get better ........

sw16girl
29-07-2012, 07:48 AM
Somewhat ominously Manolo Romero the man who runs OBS has announced he is stepping down in 2013 - possibly because he knows they are not going to come out well from this Olympics and he has got in first.

As for the drumming - I can't say I've noticed it - but then that may be because I suffer from mild tinnitus so am used to a certain amount of background noise:o

Louis
29-07-2012, 12:28 PM
'It's not our fault' say the BBC ...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2180544/BBC-defends-Olympics-coverage-Twitter-backlash-viewers-complain-appalling-cycling-gymnastics-broadcasts.html?ITO=1490

Palacedog
29-07-2012, 01:09 PM
The coverage is shit , I'd you put the bbc Olympic channel 11 on now all you can see is one end of old Trafford and the sound from the crowd .
Surely we should get some sort of build up from the so called commentary team.

Always an Eagle
29-07-2012, 01:37 PM
The coverage is shit , I'd you put the bbc Olympic channel 11 on now all you can see is one end of old Trafford and the sound from the crowd .
Surely we should get some sort of build up from the so called commentary team.

LOL, so the BBC manage to get 24 HD(& SD) ch, yes 24 up so people can have as much viewing choice as possible & people are still unhappy.

I bet no other country has a public service broadcaster prepared to do that.

Maybe they don't have the staff.

I don't particularly care for BBC, but just imagine ITV Sport.

What do you do at live events?

Palacedog
29-07-2012, 01:42 PM
LOL, so the BBC manage to get 24 HD(& SD) ch, yes 24 up so people can have as much viewing choice as possible & people are still unhappy.

I bet no other country has a public service broadcaster prepared to do that.

Maybe they don't have the staff.

I don't particularly care for BBC, but just imagine ITV Sport.

What do you do at live events?

Of course they have the staff , they have people at the venue covering both games .

What I do at live events has nothing to do with this , this is an event being broadcast on tv .

Chester 76
29-07-2012, 02:05 PM
I'm one of the developers who worked on the BBC's online video player for the Olympics so I can answer your questions :)

The swoosh sound comes from the OBS video feed, so something that the BEEB can't do anything about.

The cycling time information was also a OBS issue:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/jul/28/bbc-olympic-broadcasting-services-cycling?newsfeed=true

Any other questions let me know, and i'll do my best to answer them! :)
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This, the OBS provide the feed with different countries taking responsibility for different sports: Finland Athletics; Japan Judo; Belgium Cycling etc.

Palacedog
29-07-2012, 02:41 PM
Anyone else what to defend this , spent the last hours watching the women's road race on bbc olympic channel 3 , only to miss the interview with the Brit who finished 2nd as it was on bbc one .

It is a ******* shambles

Louis
29-07-2012, 02:51 PM
The coverage is shit , I'd you put the bbc Olympic channel 11 on now all you can see is one end of old Trafford and the sound from the crowd .
Surely we should get some sort of build up from the so called commentary team.
You're talking about football there. I haven't watched much else so far, but I think the Olympic football coverage has been pretty good. Basically, they are showing every single mens and womens football match live with a commentator. They have a studio team for the big games like those involving GB. I'm quite happy to watch the other games without previews and half-time discussions myself.

Jono14
29-07-2012, 03:12 PM
Why are they repeating earlier events. I keep thinking it's live when it's just a repeat.

west country boy
29-07-2012, 03:15 PM
...Colin Jackson on weightlifting...What does he know about snatch? Ba-doom tish.

LLCOOLSTEVE
29-07-2012, 03:17 PM
Anyone else what to defend this , spent the last hours watching the women's road race on bbc olympic channel 3 , only to miss the interview with the Brit who finished 2nd as it was on bbc one .

It is a ******* shambles


boo hoo

BringBackSasa
29-07-2012, 03:20 PM
Fed up with using experts that know nothing about the spot that they know nothing about, Tanni Grey T reporting on cycling...

To be fair, she's an expert on 2 wheelers.

Palacedog
29-07-2012, 03:24 PM
boo hoo

Whats wrong dougie not love you anymore ?:rolleyes:

Palestinian
29-07-2012, 03:43 PM
Anyone else what to defend this , spent the last hours watching the women's road race on bbc olympic channel 3 , only to miss the interview with the Brit who finished 2nd as it was on bbc one .

It is a ******* shambles
They switched over ages before the finish, yes it was annoying but it was much much better today. The finish, the last 15 km or so and the interviews etc were all on the same channel, can't see what the problem was? They were even better at providing splits etc, although it was a shame that on the road they were clearly only getting through on a patchy basis to both the leaders and the chasing group.

Palacedog
29-07-2012, 03:51 PM
They wernt on the same channel at all ! I missed the interviews .
No interviews on the bbc Olympic channel

Scrumpy
29-07-2012, 03:53 PM
Loving the coverage so far

Palestinian
29-07-2012, 04:07 PM
They wernt on the same channel at all ! I missed the interviews .
No interviews on the bbc Olympic channel

They were, I watched it!!

The race annoyingly switched from BBC3 to 1 with about 20 minutes to go, and then stayed with it until after the finish; there may have been secondary coverage on other channels but you cannot expect that to cover interviews etc.

Just because you didn't see it, does not mean it did not happen ....

Joooe
29-07-2012, 04:10 PM
Think the coverage has been decent enough so far.

Duffle Coat
29-07-2012, 04:10 PM
The Olympics has a lot to learn from football. The stats and coverage of Euro 2012 knocked spots off (Bojo's expression) the Olympics. Football does in the Olympics again. Let's be honest, for most people the only part of the Olympics they care about is the athletics, the rest is just filler.

Palacedog
29-07-2012, 04:20 PM
They were, I watched it!!

The race annoyingly switched from BBC3 to 1 with about 20 minutes to go, and then stayed with it until after the finish; there may have been secondary coverage on other channels but you cannot expect that to cover interviews etc.

Just because you didn't see it, does not mean it did not happen ....

I wasn't watching it on bbc3 I was watching it on the bbc Olympic channel number 3 !!!!!

Big Blue Eagle
30-07-2012, 12:36 PM
I'm one of the developers who worked on the BBC's online video player for the Olympics so I can answer your questions :)

The swoosh sound comes from the OBS video feed, so something that the BEEB can't do anything about.

The cycling time information was also a OBS issue:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/jul/28/bbc-olympic-broadcasting-services-cycling?newsfeed=true

Any other questions let me know, and i'll do my best to answer them! :)

Guntri - I see OBS are trying to deflect some blame for the lack of stats and splits on Saturday on the data network being overloaded by Twitter, photo uploads etc - they seemed to be using the same networks as everyone else - and then they also said that part of the issue was the BBC's streaming mobile coverage clogging networks.

Sounds like total cr*p to me but would welcome your view?

Sounds

The Omen
30-07-2012, 12:46 PM
Weightlifting... the only time you will hear the expression "she has a lovely snatch" on the BBC :)

saxoneagle
30-07-2012, 01:08 PM
I agree that it wasn't brilliant - but by all accounts they were not helped with the information given to them. It seems that all they had were the pictures we were watching.



I'm sorry, there was one overhead shot on the cycling (mens) where the numbers were CLEAR AS DAY and they commentator read out four different numbers and the names of four different riders, including calling one of the Russians "Mark Cavendish".

Get the TdF commentators in, they recognise the riders by something other than numbers - like faces and size and what f*cking colour they're wearing!

Big Blue Eagle
30-07-2012, 01:12 PM
I do find it rather bizzare that some users on here (who seem to have mastered the internet) and a lot outside, don't get the concept of the multi-channel broadcasting, plus who is actually doing what.

The IOC run the televising of the events through OBS, the timing through Omega and the results/IT/etc etc through ATOS. (Those old enough to remember Atlanta will remember the issues IBM had at first on the IT which caused the CEO to fly in to sort it out)

The BBC takes events feeds plus the timing and graphics from OBS for ALL platforms and then adds its own material like interviews, studio programming, web blogs, background material, commentary etc etc - which many Daily Mail readers seem unable to grasp that watching the pure OBS feed for two weeks would be pretty tedious even though they provide "national" orientated feeds for some countries and/or events.

BBCs strategy is to make every sport available on the web and on the extra channels - BUT - the main channels, BBC1/2/3/HD will show the main interest events for the general public, mostly with GB interest, complete with "colour" like background info, interviews etc, leaving the extra channels to show uninterrupted coverage of whatever is on and the time, with commentary but NO extras like interviews etc. So sometimes there will be nothing on some of the channels, or just shots of the arenas etc.

They also chose their commentators for the primary audience so have big names that Joe Public will recognize - like Dame DGT - on the main channels in the fill in bits and the specialists doing the events themselves.

In reality, this is no difference to the sort of red button services they have done for years, like Amen Corner at the Masters, commentary free F1, Driver Tracker F1, outside courts at Wimbledon etc etc etc.

It does make me wonder sometimes whether we are quite a digital society as we think we are and whether some really want the world to go back to the world of BBC1/2/C4/ITV only?

saxoneagle
30-07-2012, 01:15 PM
The Olympics has a lot to learn from football. The stats and coverage of Euro 2012 knocked spots off (Bojo's expression) the Olympics. Football does in the Olympics again. Let's be honest, for most people the only part of the Olympics they care about is the athletics, the rest is just filler.

Hardly - I was really enjoying the hockey yesterday and the Beeb just changed to the football, giving the TeamGB football team precedence over the hockey team.

Don't we get enough football coverage? Do you think that they'd have switched over half way through the football for another sport? The answers are, of course, yes and no.

The Olympics is about new sports, new events and creating new stars. Ryan Giggs can go disappear up his hairy crack for all I care - he has no place at these Olympics.

Oh, and before any comments - I pay for 5 BBC channels (2 showing Olympics) what most of you pay for your amazing 24 channels of it. I'm just glad that some of the French, Italian, German and Swiss channels I get have more varied coverage. Even the Russian channel was better!

saxoneagle
30-07-2012, 01:17 PM
I do find it rather bizzare that some users on here (who seem to have mastered the internet) and a lot outside, don't get the concept of the multi-channel broadcasting, plus who is actually doing what.

The IOC run the televising of the events through OBS, the timing through Omega and the results/IT/etc etc through ATOS. (Those old enough to remember Atlanta will remember the issues IBM had at first on the IT which caused the CEO to fly in to sort it out)

The BBC takes events feeds plus the timing and graphics from OBS for ALL platforms and then adds its own material like interviews, studio programming, web blogs, background material, commentary etc etc - which many Daily Mail readers seem unable to grasp that watching the pure OBS feed for two weeks would be pretty tedious even though they provide "national" orientated feeds for some countries and/or events.

BBCs strategy is to make every sport available on the web and on the extra channels - BUT - the main channels, BBC1/2/3/HD will show the main interest events for the general public, mostly with GB interest, complete with "colour" like background info, interviews etc, leaving the extra channels to show uninterrupted coverage of whatever is on and the time, with commentary but NO extras like interviews etc. So sometimes there will be nothing on some of the channels, or just shots of the arenas etc.

They also chose their commentators for the primary audience so have big names that Joe Public will recognize - like Dame DGT - on the main channels in the fill in bits and the specialists doing the events themselves.

In reality, this is no difference to the sort of red button services they have done for years, like Amen Corner at the Masters, commentary free F1, Driver Tracker F1, outside courts at Wimbledon etc etc etc.

It does make me wonder sometimes whether we are quite a digital society as we think we are and whether some really want the world to go back to the world of BBC1/2/C4/ITV only?

My main issue is the chopping and changing. They wouldn't show 20 minutes of the Team GB football, but think nothing of it for the hockey and such like. I know the coverage isn't fed by the Beeb, but what they pick on their channels is.

What you also have to remember, is not every Brit lives in Britain and has access to all these services. I could get a proxy server and watch illegally, of course, right?

Big Blue Eagle
30-07-2012, 01:18 PM
I'm sorry, there was one overhead shot on the cycling (mens) where the numbers were CLEAR AS DAY and they commentator read out four different numbers and the names of four different riders, including calling one of the Russians "Mark Cavendish".

Get the TdF commentators in, they recognise the riders by something other than numbers - like faces and size and what f*cking colour they're wearing!

Sorry Saxon - but Boardman is on both teams and Hugh Porter is just as good as Liggett, while Jill Douglas is a good on track anchor, well liked by the riders. The numbers may have been clear on your 40inch HD screen but probably weren't in a commentary booth on a small TV monitor with no on screen or computer timing etc.

The TDF guys get a month to work out who is who, while this one event on one day every 4 years, with people in national strips.

Billyd
30-07-2012, 01:19 PM
Anyone think the camera angle is changing too much in the swimming?

Big Blue Eagle
30-07-2012, 01:20 PM
Hardly - I was really enjoying the hockey yesterday and the Beeb just changed to the football, giving the TeamGB football team precedence over the hockey team.

Don't we get enough football coverage? Do you think that they'd have switched over half way through the football for another sport? The answers are, of course, yes and no.

The Olympics is about new sports, new events and creating new stars. Ryan Giggs can go disappear up his hairy crack for all I care - he has no place at these Olympics.

Oh, and before any comments - I pay for 5 BBC channels (2 showing Olympics) what most of you pay for your amazing 24 channels of it. I'm just glad that some of the French, Italian, German and Swiss channels I get have more varied coverage. Even the Russian channel was better!

Don't you get the red button stuff then?

Big Blue Eagle
30-07-2012, 01:22 PM
My main issue is the chopping and changing. They wouldn't show 20 minutes of the Team GB football, but think nothing of it for the hockey and such like. I know the coverage isn't fed by the Beeb, but what they pick on their channels is.

What you also have to remember, is not every Brit lives in Britain and has access to all these services. I could get a proxy server and watch illegally, of course, right?

But the BBC is broadcasting to Britain - not France, Germany, Spain etc. Not sure why they should tailor services to Brits abroad?

Big Blue Eagle
30-07-2012, 01:24 PM
Hardly - I was really enjoying the hockey yesterday and the Beeb just changed to the football, giving the TeamGB football team precedence over the hockey team.

Don't we get enough football coverage? Do you think that they'd have switched over half way through the football for another sport? The answers are, of course, yes and no.

The Olympics is about new sports, new events and creating new stars. Ryan Giggs can go disappear up his hairy crack for all I care - he has no place at these Olympics.

Oh, and before any comments - I pay for 5 BBC channels (2 showing Olympics) what most of you pay for your amazing 24 channels of it. I'm just glad that some of the French, Italian, German and Swiss channels I get have more varied coverage. Even the Russian channel was better!

I also think that had there been, say, a medal race in any event with a Team GB athlete competing they would definitely have switched over from football on the main channel.

saxoneagle
30-07-2012, 01:41 PM
But the BBC is broadcasting to Britain - not France, Germany, Spain etc. Not sure why they should tailor services to Brits abroad?

Er, they sell their channels to other countries for a start...

saxoneagle
30-07-2012, 01:47 PM
I also think that had there been, say, a medal race in any event with a Team GB athlete competing they would definitely have switched over from football on the main channel.

The British coverage is 5 minute snippets of anything other than football and swimming so far. They've jumped around on the rowing, even cycling they kept changing channels, hockey they cut half way through, basketball they didn't even show, etc, etc.

The France v GBR Handball last night was on French TV - LIVE. The whole match. Why can't we do that? We're showing enough replays of stuff as it is so a few more won't matter.

If for no other reason, I hope the football team get knocked out soon. The hysteria around England is bad enough once every 2 years without this tripe thrown in, too. We beat the UAE u-23 team, FFS.

Big Blue Eagle
30-07-2012, 01:49 PM
Er, they sell their channels to other countries for a start...

Yes - the main ones not the red button/Olympic extras etc.

Big Blue Eagle
30-07-2012, 01:54 PM
The British coverage is 5 minute snippets of anything other than football and swimming so far. They've jumped around on the rowing, even cycling they kept changing channels, hockey they cut half way through, basketball they didn't even show, etc, etc.

The France v GBR Handball last night was on French TV - LIVE. The whole match. Why can't we do that? We're showing enough replays of stuff as it is so a few more won't matter.

If for no other reason, I hope the football team get knocked out soon. The hysteria around England is bad enough once every 2 years without this tripe thrown in, too. We beat the UAE u-23 team, FFS.

The whole of that match was on the BBC - but not on a main channel. It was on a Sky BBC Olympic channel, on the web etc etc. On their main channels they have to cater for the mainstream. I have had the TV on in my office today and this morning, the main channels covered every swimming or rowing heat with British interest, and this afternoon they have been mainstreaming on the Eventing, with cut aways to tennis, handball, canoeing etc when the Eventing has been held due to falls or loose horses.

Now, at 3pm, they are moving the Eventing to BBC3 and the diving is on on BBC1

And if you want the match in replay you can get it on the web anytime you like.

saxoneagle
30-07-2012, 01:55 PM
Yes - the main ones not the red button/Olympic extras etc.

Yes, and I pay per month what you pay for your annual TV licence. Why should we expect a shoddy service on the main channels?

Why not say "we're going to stick with the hockey here and you can watch the football on the red button in the meantime"?

The point is, they're giving prime TV spots to things that just aren't very good. Why not be a little adventurous? You'd be amazed how many people Tweeted yesterday how annoyed they were that sports were being cut off all the time, including people in the UK. I'm not in the small minority you might think.

saxoneagle
30-07-2012, 01:58 PM
The whole of that match was on the BBC - but not on a main channel. It was on a Sky BBC Olympic channel, on the web etc etc. On their main channels they have to cater for the mainstream. I have had the TV on in my office today and this morning, the main channels covered every swimming or rowing heat with British interest, and this afternoon they have been mainstreaming on the Eventing, with cut aways to tennis, handball, canoeing etc when the Eventing has been held due to falls or loose horses.

Now, at 3pm, they are moving the Eventing to BBC3 and the diving is on on BBC1

And if you want the match in replay you can get it on the web anytime you like.

Not everyone has the Sky BBC Olympic channel, or the "red button", even in the UK. But everyone with a TV pays the Beeb through the licence fee...

Big Blue Eagle
30-07-2012, 02:02 PM
Not saying you are in a minority, but you are in Switzerland - so you surely have to rely on the LOCAL broadcaster to give you a full service of any sport you like - not the BBC?

Big Blue Eagle
30-07-2012, 02:11 PM
Not everyone has the Sky BBC Olympic channel, or the "red button", even in the UK. But everyone with a TV pays the Beeb through the licence fee...

Sorry - you've been away too long - everyone DOES have the red button, we are all on Digital now. Right now, on basic Digital TV with no extra Freeview etc I have:

Diving on BBC1
Eventing on BBC3
Tennis (Laura Robson) on the Red Button

That is the absolute minimum you can get with no PC, no Freeview, no Virgin, no Sky.

Big Blue Eagle
30-07-2012, 02:15 PM
Anyway - the REALLY good news - Laura Robson wins first round match to get a 2nd round tie with Sharapova, and Watson a set up as well.

spike
30-07-2012, 02:17 PM
Does the BBC have rights to show the whole of the Olympics to ex-pats (regardless of the fee paid)?

Big Blue Eagle
30-07-2012, 02:21 PM
Does the BBC have rights to show the whole of the Olympics to ex-pats (regardless of the fee paid)?

Nope - Saxon is just homesick........they can broadcast to the UK only.

kolinkins
30-07-2012, 02:25 PM
The BBC coverage has been fantastic so far. So good that it's turned this Olympic nay sayer to being someone who has really dived into it.

Not sure they could do any more or any better.

Heb 7:4
30-07-2012, 02:35 PM
Not sure they could do any more or any better.
More slow motions shots of attractive women. This kind of thing

wVQs_jERAXY

Selhurst Celtic
30-07-2012, 02:39 PM
I only have freeview so was forced to watch the women's powerlifting on the internet. I fell in love with this sport a few years back as the 4ft 2inch competitors get incredibly hyped, storm into the area, chuck some talc around and then lift the weight equivalent of a small car over their heads. Compulsive viewing.

I suspect the female athlete from Hong Kong will fail to provide a urine test due to having an erection though.

Chester
30-07-2012, 02:41 PM
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q83/BVIChester/gifs_171.gif

Selhurst Celtic
30-07-2012, 02:46 PM
That is so close to reality. Good lad, Chester.

jamesc_24
30-07-2012, 02:56 PM
http://www.livelikeavip.com/wp-content/uploads/Zara+Dampney+and+Shauna+Mullin.jpg

Go team GB :-)

Les Butler
30-07-2012, 03:08 PM
Can I moan about the Canadian coverage where you only see Canadians lose or way back then forget about anyone else in the world that is competing then they switch for half an hour on where the Canadian athlete grew up in a little town in BC or wherever...You have it lucky !

Selhurst Celtic
30-07-2012, 03:11 PM
Here's the young lad that was Hong Kong's female power lifter, Weili Yu:

http://binaryapi.ap.org/ef5b991fbccb4fc6a7eded891bea8faa/512x.jpg

Bintang
30-07-2012, 03:30 PM
We have Star Sports and ESPN. They do cut away at the wrong time. 10k to go in the men's cycling road race and they cut. Comes back as they enter the Mall.

Plus cannot hear any announcements in the arena. Seems to be a problem with sterio. Left channel and all you hear is crowd, right channel for commentary. Both channels for ear ache.

Still they are covering most sports, with emphasis on SE Asia, but that's expected.

Selhurst Celtic
30-07-2012, 03:36 PM
I was in Bali during the 2008 Olympics and after Indonesia won gold in the badminton there were kids running around everywhere with badminton sticks.

Heb 7:4
30-07-2012, 04:26 PM
I only have freeview so was forced to watch the women's powerlifting on the internet. I fell in love with this sport a few years back as the 4ft 2inch competitors get incredibly hyped, storm into the area, chuck some talc around and then lift the weight equivalent of a small car over their heads. Compulsive viewing.

I suspect the female athlete from Hong Kong will fail to provide a urine test due to having an erection though.
If I can upload from my phone I'll provide live BBS coverage from tomorrow afternoon's women's 63kg battle.

Selhurst Celtic
30-07-2012, 04:31 PM
I have just watched this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/19042645

Amazing.

saxoneagle
30-07-2012, 04:56 PM
Nope - Saxon is just homesick........they can broadcast to the UK only.

Hardly homesick, just don't understand why the Beeb have to put every GB football match on a prime channel. You say everyone has the red button, so why did they need to turn away from the hockey last night?

And if everyone has access to everything, why did they just switch the gymnastics from BBC1 to BBC3 and the equestrian from BBC3 to BBC1? Senseless move if everyone has everything, right?

Big Blue Eagle
30-07-2012, 07:40 PM
Hardly homesick, just don't understand why the Beeb have to put every GB football match on a prime channel. You say everyone has the red button, so why did they need to turn away from the hockey last night?

And if everyone has access to everything, why did they just switch the gymnastics from BBC1 to BBC3 and the equestrian from BBC3 to BBC1? Senseless move if everyone has everything, right?

Old people don't know BBC3 exists......;)

saxoneagle
30-07-2012, 07:43 PM
So why out the medal winning gymnasts on a channel that James can't find? ;)

Bintang
30-07-2012, 07:48 PM
I have just watched this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/19042645

Amazing.

Was dramatic end. Indonesian bronze. Not bad for a goat herder from Sumatra.

James
30-07-2012, 07:53 PM
Old people don't know BBC3 exists......;)BBC what?

racehorse-80s
30-07-2012, 10:22 PM
Not a criticism of the BBC but can't they just show the finals .

mart63
30-07-2012, 10:27 PM
Gary Lineker is clueless and comes across as somebody who has not bothered to do any background work.Presenting wise he is a one trick pony who should stick to being a Premier league smartarse with his Premier league cronies.



I do wish the BBC would stop messing about with all the different angles for the swimming,it is neither clever or arty.

jone-zee
30-07-2012, 10:35 PM
BBC what?

Its on the Light Programme

rhino_mik
31-07-2012, 05:41 PM
Thank **** for the BBC. If it was on any other channel you'd have Ray Winstones fat mug face on the telly every 5 minutes giving you the in play price on Beth Tweddle's gusset ripping open on the uneven bars.

Always an Eagle
31-07-2012, 06:13 PM
Not a criticism of the BBC but can't they just show the finals .

I'm struggling with what ch to watch, I'd certainly like "BBC Team GB in with a medal chance 1", "BBC Team GB in with a medal chance 2", "BBC Team GB in with a medal chance 3", etc & then "BBC Other Countries 1" and so on.

st albans
31-07-2012, 07:58 PM
I do wish the BBC would stop messing about with all the different angles for the swimming,it is neither clever or arty.

I don't think the bbc have any say in this do they?

Bintang
31-07-2012, 07:59 PM
Major lift by Indonesian weightlifter. Silver. Well done.

davematt
31-07-2012, 09:06 PM
I think the BBC's coverage has so far been brilliant.

Celestial Empire
31-07-2012, 09:21 PM
The swimming commentator ass who spent the entire evening swearing undying love for Phelps should be knee-capped. No results/times just endless prattling about bloody Phelps !
BBC = Sleb love-in, whatever the subject or occasion. :veryangry

FORZA SELHURST
31-07-2012, 09:24 PM
An annoying thing about the BBC coverage is that if you watch the live streams of events it doesn't appear to go with an interview with the main channel.

Watched Clos win earlier and they went quiet whilst he visibly did an interview with Sharon Davies.

Still, no great loss in that instance but there have been others.

davematt
31-07-2012, 09:28 PM
An annoying thing about the BBC coverage is that if you watch the live streams of events it doesn't appear to go with an interview with the main channel.

Watched Clos win earlier and they went quiet whilst he visibly did an interview with Sharon Davies.

Still, no great loss in that instance but there have been others.

Yeah, I have noticed that.

But, all you need to do is change either BBC 1, 2, or 3, depending on which channel the event you have been watching is on to catch the interview/reaction stuff...

maestro
31-07-2012, 10:28 PM
Is anyone watching the BBC, that have this Olga women on and she bloody loves herself

Thinks that gymnastics is poor at the moment and it needs a new her to grace the arena

saxoneagle
31-07-2012, 11:06 PM
Is anyone watching the BBC, that have this Olga women on and she bloody loves herself

Thinks that gymnastics is poor at the moment and it needs a new her to grace the arena

This Olga woman? Seriously? lol

Remember also, English is not her first language so it is not as easy to express yourself. However, I thought she was incorrect - the mens and womens gymnasts the last couple of days have been superb.

maestro
01-08-2012, 08:12 AM
This Olga woman? Seriously? lol

Remember also, English is not her first language so it is not as easy to express yourself. However, I thought she was incorrect - the mens and womens gymnasts the last couple of days have been superb.

Mate she was embarrasing, even the fellow comentators looked awkward, at one point she said the russian gymnasts didnt do well as they were probably tired due to jet lag, john McEnroe then said something like "are you for real, they've probably been in this country for more than a month"

civil eagle
01-08-2012, 08:20 AM
Working from home today so sampling the joys of Radio 5 live (my daughter is in control of the TV), have to say its rubish jumping from interview to interview not really covering any sport just talking to friends of competitors.

Plus that Nicky Cambell idiot is doing my head in

ee-ay-ee-ay-ee-ay-o
01-08-2012, 02:46 PM
If I could have a 1 for every time Chris Boardman starts a sentence with "well..."

I'd be a very rich man...

Selhurst Celtic
01-08-2012, 09:17 PM
What the feck is going on in the boxing on BBC3.
Firstly the ref disqualifies the Iranian fighter for persistent holding of his Cuban opponent, when he wasn't. Cue the Iranian refusing to acknowledge the decision and walking out of the ring.
Next up an Eyetalian arrives in the ring and is immediately awarded the bout as his opponent missed the weigh in.
Hopefully the next bout passes off okay (Belarus v Ecuador.)

Sleeping Giant
02-08-2012, 08:34 AM
The thing that I don't like is that if I lose concentration for a second (happens all the time at my age) and look back at the screen I want to know who I am cheering for immediately. During the equestrian event for example, just keep a flag up the whole time. During the swimming too, flags are only flashed up occasionally. This can be greatly improved. It isn't just the BBC that can help, the event organisers can do something about identification too.
Also commented on another thread that I couldn't believe they didn't have great views of Richmond and Kingston Bridges as the riders went across in the road races. On the mens race I only knew they were even crossing the river because I recognise the area well, most wouldn't have known. Iconic views were completely missed. At least there was an aerial view at Kingston (didn't see what they did for Richmond) for the womens race but it was from so high that all the charm and beauty was missed. Basically, the "weight" of the course was utterly lost in the coverage. Things did improve for the Time Trials at Hampton Court Bridge, but that was exactly what was needed for ALL the bridges. We lost an opportunity in what we presented to the World I'm afraid, the events should have been seen as spectacular as they actually were.

Big Blue Eagle
02-08-2012, 08:42 AM
Not in the BBCs power I'm afraid - all down to the Olympic Broadcast Service and their camera work and graphics feeds. Similar problem with the boxing where they have decided NOT to show a running score on the screen this time - supposedly to improve impartiality of judging!

StudentEagle
02-08-2012, 08:45 AM
I've enjoyed the coverage except for one thing.

Mark Lawrenson. Please BBC, get rid of this miserable curmudgeon. He seems to have the remarkable ability to sap any joy out of any occasion and replace it with abject despair.

Windsor_Eagle
02-08-2012, 08:50 AM
I've enjoyed the coverage except for one thing.

Mark Lawrenson. Please BBC, get rid of this miserable curmudgeon. He seems to have the remarkable ability to sap any joy out of any occasion and replace it with abject despair.

Which poster do you think he is on the BBS?:D

jamesc_24
02-08-2012, 08:57 AM
Swimming has been the standout BBC team for me, Thorpe and Foster were a great team although last night they kept getting caught out by the cameras returning back to them, the inrace commentators really work well together.

pallet
02-08-2012, 09:42 AM
100% agree

selhurstparkflyer
02-08-2012, 09:42 AM
I'm really enjoying Ian Thorpe.

James
02-08-2012, 09:46 AM
I've enjoyed the coverage except for one thing.

Mark Lawrenson. Please BBC, get rid of this miserable curmudgeon. He seems to have the remarkable ability to sap any joy out of any occasion and replace it with abject despair.Oh God - you are so right. I am amazed that Jonathan Pearce doesn't punch him in the bollocks.

Big Blue Eagle
02-08-2012, 09:47 AM
I'm really enjoying Ian Thorpe.

Well........you know what they say about men with very large feet........what is it precisely you are enjoying??

Thanet Eagle
02-08-2012, 09:49 AM
I'm really enjoying Ian Thorpe.

Comes across well as a pundit.

saxoneagle
02-08-2012, 10:00 AM
Swimming has been the standout BBC team for me, Thorpe and Foster were a great team although last night they kept getting caught out by the cameras returning back to them, the inrace commentators really work well together.


Not to underestimate Clare Balding, either, who has been excellent.

saxoneagle
02-08-2012, 10:01 AM
Comes across well as a pundit.

Well look, he'd be a lot better if he didn't start every sentence with "well look", but other than that he's very insightful and adds to the experience, unlike so many football commentators and "analysts", not just Mark Lawrenson.

jamesc_24
02-08-2012, 10:02 AM
Not to underestimate Clare Balding, either, who has been excellent.

Yup, she always is, on a sport she shouldnt know much about but you forget that.

OldPeanutSeller
02-08-2012, 10:08 PM
As for the drumming - I can't say I've noticed it - but then that may be because I suffer from mild tinnitus so am used to a certain amount of background noise:o

Sorry to hear you have a problem with your breasts.

Chobham Eagle
03-08-2012, 03:04 AM
I've had the misfortune so far of watching the Olympics in the USA. Is any other country taking part? :(

Chobham Eagle
03-08-2012, 03:06 AM
Oh God - you are so right. I am amazed that Jonathan Pearce doesn't punch him in the bollocks.

Maybe he has. Might explain why he is a miserable curmudgeon.

CommercialStone
03-08-2012, 07:55 AM
Not to underestimate Clare Balding, either, who has been excellent.

Yeah the swimming commentating team has some chemistry. Also some interesting points, and "inside" info on a lot of the top competitors.
Unlike a lot of the other commentators who I often feel like are just filling air time.

Big Blue Eagle
03-08-2012, 07:58 AM
Yeah the swimming commentating team has some chemistry. Also some interesting points, and "inside" info on a lot of the top competitors.
Unlike a lot of the other commentators who I often feel like are just filling air time.

But to be fair, many of the event commentators, rather than experts, are generalists commentating on sports that only feature on TV once every 4 years.

jamesc_24
03-08-2012, 08:24 AM
Matt Baker was very slick on gymnastics, I think he had some experience in it. I think they've done the best with the team they have, nothing will beat the most recent strange one of Michael Vaughan at the Masters though!

Big Blue Eagle
03-08-2012, 08:26 AM
Matt Baker was very slick on gymnastics, I think he had some experience in it. I think they've done the best with the team they have, nothing will beat the most recent strange one of Michael Vaughan at the Masters though!

Yes - Baker was a talented junior gymnast so knows his stuff. On the Vaughan thing - it didn't work out, but it is clear that they are trying to position him as a possible Lineker/Barker replacement in the future, and he is also a pretty decent golfer in his own right. But maybe it was a bit soon to go to Augusta!

Elephant with mouse gyp
03-08-2012, 08:29 AM
The red button has been a life-saver. They usually hide the team sports on there and away from the main channel limelight, they don't have to be so flag-wavy.

I couldn't risk the delay in leaving red-button land during the exciting GB-Spain basketball match last night, so can someone confirm they had this on the main channels?

PalaceForever
03-08-2012, 08:32 AM
My minor grumble is regarding the lack of graphics on the swimming. Would it kill them to put the event name above the timer? If you're not listening at the start it's hard to know if they're on the 4th lap of the 200m or the 4th lap of the 400m for example.

Big Blue Eagle
03-08-2012, 08:33 AM
The red button has been a life-saver. They usually hide the team sports on there and away from the main channel limelight, they don't have to be so flag-wavy.

I couldn't risk the delay in leaving red-button land during the exciting GB-Spain basketball match last night, so can someone confirm they had this on the main channels?

Yes - it was on BBC1 and they delayed the News by a few minutes for the conclusion.

Elephant with mouse gyp
03-08-2012, 08:39 AM
Thanks and what a conclusion it (nearly) was.

Markluke
03-08-2012, 07:14 PM
Am I the only person that thinks that John Enverdale is a twat ?

maestro
03-08-2012, 07:17 PM
he reminds me very much of another annoying presenter Mark Nicholas from the cricket

Markluke
03-08-2012, 07:39 PM
Add Claire Balding to the "How the hell did she ever get on TV" list.

st albans
04-08-2012, 10:40 PM
like Ian Thorpe a lot, getting really fed up with linekar noq

mart63
04-08-2012, 11:21 PM
Not normally keen on Claire Balding,but I think she has generally been excellent.

Lineker does not seem to be getting any better,just lazy.


Disappointed that just before Jessica Ennis entered the stadium tonight the BBC went to another of their pointless musical montages,then when going back live the commentator said "you have just missed the loudest entrance to a stadium I have ever witnessed".

Chester
04-08-2012, 11:25 PM
Their whole coverage has been fantastic. Their experts have been brilliant so far, contrast this with the toss that has been NBC in the States im glad that ive been able to stream most of these games through the Beeb. Hope they can keep it going.

OldPeanutSeller
04-08-2012, 11:26 PM
Best presenters for me are Clare Balding (which surprised me, for some reason), Michael Johnson and Chris Boardman.

Boardman gets a vote because he has done a bloody good job of not belittling the other twats he is working with, whilst still being informative.

... Oh, and Garth Crooks of course.

OldPeanutSeller
04-08-2012, 11:27 PM
Disappointed that just before Jessica Ennis entered the stadium tonight the BBC went to another of their pointless musical montages,then when going back live the commentator said "you have just missed the loudest entrance to a stadium I have ever witnessed".

Agreed, particularly as the montage had already been shown 3 times.

Big Blue Eagle
05-08-2012, 07:12 AM
Add Claire Balding to the "How the hell did she ever get on TV" list.

Wrong on so many levels, great enthisiast who whatever she is covering and has had a great games.

Big Blue Eagle
05-08-2012, 07:15 AM
Am I the only person that thinks that John Enverdale is a twat ?
Inverdale is a great radio guy, and is pretty good on TV but does seem to try to hard to be the new Des Lynam in appearance. Having said that, I still like him, and anyone (even the Walkers poster boy) who can handle live TV sports coverage deserves credit.

Big Blue Eagle
05-08-2012, 07:26 AM
Interesting contrast yesterday in two views of the BBC coverage.

Our old friends the Daily Mail chose to lead with "hundreds" of people complaining about insensitive BBC interviews after GB athletes lost, notably when Pendleton got DQ'd. When they say Hundreds, they then quote half a dozen twitter lines, mainly anonymous. As one of the comments pointed out, yet another Beeb bash by the Mail on a very tenuous basis, oh, and by a paper with a 20% stake in ITV, and also one that carries a link right next door to the BBC coverage. Yet again, the Mail pushes its own agenda. As for the VP interview, she knows Jill Douglas well, they meet up at track events all the time as Douglas covers cycling all the time and VP wouldn't have spoken if she didn't want to, like Oroghuru so far has not done an interview after races, and it was fine. The only person who has caused a jar for me sometimes has been David Bond, but he is there for a far wider view of the games so has to show more "balance" - Although it would have been nice to see Cav deck him on the Mall!

Contract this with the Torygraph who were full of praise for everything games related, including the TV, only pausing to not rate Lineker very highly and question John Inverdale's shirt choice, but loving Claire Balding and Hugh Porter, although they did have another Jubilee dig when praising Matt Baker.

They also had a view from Dishy Des who was really negative beforehand, mostly, to me, from an "it wasn't like that in my day" stance, who seemed to grudging seem to accept that it was all working rather well

To me, if the Mail has a go, you must be doing something right!

Godstone Eagle
05-08-2012, 08:46 AM
Disappointed that just before Jessica Ennis entered the stadium tonight the BBC went to another of their pointless musical montages,then when going back live the commentator said "you have just missed the loudest entrance to a stadium I have ever witnessed".

That did annoy me as well. Other than that though, the BBC coverage of this Olympics has been quite outstanding.

Big Blue Eagle
06-08-2012, 08:57 AM
And the Daily Mail (20% owned by ITV) just can't stop its anti BBC agenda - it seems completely oblivious to the fact that the trackside reporters more often than not know the competitors pretty well, and now seems to base its reporting purely on what a few people say on Twitter. Refreshing to see that all the positive rated posts are slating the article.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2184162/London-2012-Olympics-Viewers-unhappy-BBC-reporters-methods-post-event-interview.html#comments

Big Blue Eagle
06-08-2012, 12:53 PM
Blimey, Claire Balding looking a bit "nippy" over at Greenwich this afternoon.......!

pauldrulez
06-08-2012, 01:47 PM
My thoughts on the Cycling:

Jake Humphrey has done. Decent job.

Cavendish has done well not to decapitate Humphrey every time he brings up that he's never won a medal.

Boardman is excellent. He has all the inside info you need and has been the catalyst for British cycling

CommercialStone
06-08-2012, 03:26 PM
Agreed, particularly as the montage had already been shown 3 times.

It annoys me that they were talking about Ennis while she was in the Javelin comp. and they just kept cutting back for her throws....what about the others? Couldn't get into the Javelin as we didn't know what the others had thrown, even the other British girls....

Annoys me when they are chatting / showing us the rowing from earlier AGAIn, and there is all that sport going on over their shoulders, that you can just not make out!

Big Blue Eagle
06-08-2012, 03:34 PM
It annoys me that they were talking about Ennis while she was in the Javelin comp. and they just kept cutting back for her throws....what about the others? Couldn't get into the Javelin as we didn't know what the others had thrown, even the other British girls....

Annoys me when they are chatting / showing us the rowing from earlier AGAIn, and there is all that sport going on over their shoulders, that you can just not make out!

If you want non stop coverage it is available on most platforms on the red button or on line (had boxing, sailing, jumping, cycling on at various times today while on conference calls today), the main channels are designed for the casual viewer.

The Omen
06-08-2012, 09:13 PM
It annoys me that they were talking about Ennis while she was in the Javelin comp. and they just kept cutting back for her throws....what about the others? Couldn't get into the Javelin as we didn't know what the others had thrown, even the other British girls....

Annoys me when they are chatting / showing us the rowing from earlier AGAIn, and there is all that sport going on over their shoulders, that you can just not make out!

As BBE said - it had its own dedicated channel

Heb 7:4
07-08-2012, 05:04 PM
http://thechive.com/2012/08/07/irish-sailing-commentary-turns-boring-into-hilarious-video/

Sleeping Giant
07-08-2012, 06:40 PM
My thoughts on the Cycling:

Jake Humphrey has done. Decent job.

Cavendish has done well not to decapitate Humphrey every time he brings up that he's never won a medal.



I thought that Cav did amazingly well to stay professional the one time I saw Humphrey mention this. It was the cocky way he mentioned it too which was so uncalled for. What a twu*t

Excowboy
07-08-2012, 06:42 PM
If you want non stop coverage it is available on most platforms on the red button or on line (had boxing, sailing, jumping, cycling on at various times today while on conference calls today), the main channels are designed for the casual viewer.

But with Freeview the only way to watch whatever sport is on BBC One, Two Or Three is to watch that channel and all the repetitive nattering that comes with it. That would be fine if it was just summarising, explaining and analysing what was happening or about to happen, but the BBC have taken it way over the top with these Olympics.

Clare Balding asking the same question to Ian Thorpe in the Park Studio that Hazel Irvine just asked Mark Foster in the pool arena while the next heat is totally ignored, Gary Lineker discussing the Men's 100 metre final with John McEnroe, Showing a VT where Colin Jackson explains that the most important part of High Jump is being able to jump while ignoring whatever is going on in the track or field (quite possibly the high jump). The list goes on.

I've no problem with the Beeb catering to the casual watcher, I do have a problem with them treating people like morons and not showing the action people have tuned in to watch. My solution is to wire the laptop up to the TV and watch most of it on the website, but doing this you miss the bits of expert summary (Michael Johnson, Mark Cavendish etc) you actually want to hear.

Big Blue Eagle
07-08-2012, 07:40 PM
And the Daily Mail (20% owned by ITV) just can't stop its anti BBC agenda - it seems completely oblivious to the fact that the trackside reporters more often than not know the competitors pretty well, and now seems to base its reporting purely on what a few people say on Twitter. Refreshing to see that all the positive rated posts are slating the article.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2184162/London-2012-Olympics-Viewers-unhappy-BBC-reporters-methods-post-event-interview.html#comments

Wonderful counter to this today. Firstly the really insightful interview with Idowu today, but secondly, Chris Hoy wins gold, goes to the interview zone and throws a huge hug around Jill Douglas. Probably far too touchy feelie for the Mail.

Big Blue Eagle
07-08-2012, 07:46 PM
But with Freeview the only way to watch whatever sport is on BBC One, Two Or Three is to watch that channel and all the repetitive nattering that comes with it. That would be fine if it was just summarising, explaining and analysing what was happening or about to happen, but the BBC have taken it way over the top with these Olympics.

Clare Balding asking the same question to Ian Thorpe in the Park Studio that Hazel Irvine just asked Mark Foster in the pool arena while the next heat is totally ignored, Gary Lineker discussing the Men's 100 metre final with John McEnroe, Showing a VT where Colin Jackson explains that the most important part of High Jump is being able to jump while ignoring whatever is going on in the track or field (quite possibly the high jump). The list goes on.

I've no problem with the Beeb catering to the casual watcher, I do have a problem with them treating people like morons and not showing the action people have tuned in to watch. My solution is to wire the laptop up to the TV and watch most of it on the website, but doing this you miss the bits of expert summary (Michael Johnson, Mark Cavendish etc) you actually want to hear.

Seriously, what do you expect them to do? You sound like Saxon and his "I want all the UK channels in Switzerland" stuff.

They use BBC1 as the general channel, plus BBC2 to bridge the news and BBC3 as the second channel for general coverage, both covering high interest events.

There are then red button events on red button channels, the number depending on what platform you have, plus EVERY sport covered live on line, the first time this has ever been done.

I don't know what else they can do. Someone on here suggested that BBC1 just shows highlights and things like the 100m, and then they sell off the rest to ONE dedicated channel...bizzare.

Anyway, we have just won bronze in the High Jump.

exiledeagle1
07-08-2012, 07:59 PM
In the qualifying track events they are only introducing the favourites in their lanes.

Surely they can show all the runners as they're announced in the stadium?

BERT'S HEAD
07-08-2012, 08:00 PM
Denise Lewis just before the women's 100m hurdles about favourite Sally Pearson: "She wants to win" - cheers for that :(

Big Blue Eagle
07-08-2012, 08:04 PM
In the qualifying track events they are only introducing the favourites in their lanes.

Surely they can show all the runners as they're announced in the stadium?

And maybe not show the gold winning throw in the discus? Multiple things happen at once in the stadium.

Excowboy
07-08-2012, 08:10 PM
Seriously, what do you expect them to do? You sound like Saxon and his "I want all the UK channels in Switzerland" stuff.

They use BBC1 as the general channel, plus BBC2 to bridge the news and BBC3 as the second channel for general coverage, both covering high interest events.

There are then red button events on red button channels, the number depending on what platform you have, plus EVERY sport covered live on line, the first time this has ever been done.

I don't know what else they can do. Someone on here suggested that BBC1 just shows highlights and things like the 100m, and then they sell off the rest to ONE dedicated channel...bizzare.

Anyway, we have just won bronze in the High Jump.

I don't think you read any of my post. It was about the moronic repetition of cliches, over-analysis by people who either know little about the sport and general meaningless yabbering in place of showing the sport that is scheduled for that channel. I've no problem with the way the sports are scheduled and spread out.

Excowboy
07-08-2012, 08:11 PM
I also find it irritating that Steve Cram tries to call races before they've finished.

saxoneagle
07-08-2012, 08:24 PM
In the qualifying track events they are only introducing the favourites in their lanes.

Surely they can show all the runners as they're announced in the stadium?

They didn't announce them all in the Stadium, either.

saxoneagle
07-08-2012, 08:27 PM
Seriously, what do you expect them to do? You sound like Saxon and his "I want all the UK channels in Switzerland" stuff.

They use BBC1 as the general channel, plus BBC2 to bridge the news and BBC3 as the second channel for general coverage, both covering high interest events.

There are then red button events on red button channels, the number depending on what platform you have, plus EVERY sport covered live on line, the first time this has ever been done.

I don't know what else they can do. Someone on here suggested that BBC1 just shows highlights and things like the 100m, and then they sell off the rest to ONE dedicated channel...bizzare.

Anyway, we have just won bronze in the High Jump.

So you pay 100 quid a year for your TV license, I pay 50 quid a month for BBC but I don't have a right to complain about how my money is spent and the quality of what they feed to their "prime" channels?

Idiotic comment, but feel free to have a pop at me if you want. Again.

JamTheEagle
07-08-2012, 08:30 PM
Gutted that the cycling has finished but I sure am happy I don't have to listen to Hugh Porter any more - has been doing my head in since the road races.

Had to mute him at times, woeful.

Big Blue Eagle
07-08-2012, 08:32 PM
So you pay 100 quid a year for your TV license, I pay 50 quid a month for BBC but I don't have a right to complain about how my money is spent and the quality of what they feed to their "prime" channels?

Idiotic comment, but feel free to have a pop at me if you want. Again.

Not a pop, just a gentle ribbing, but you don't pay the BBC 50 a year do you? You pay the local broadcaster who in turn chooses what channels they buy from the BBC - is that right? In Holland and Belgium you get regular BBC1 and BBC 2 as that is what they broadcast.

And, I pay 150 a year, plus Sky to get all the extra red button services, plus BT Broadband to get the online services.

Still, makes a change from teaming up to defend Andy Murray.....:)

Big Blue Eagle
07-08-2012, 08:38 PM
I don't think you read any of my post. It was about the moronic repetition of cliches, over-analysis by people who either know little about the sport and general meaningless yabbering in place of showing the sport that is scheduled for that channel. I've no problem with the way the sports are scheduled and spread out.

Sorry to misinterpret, but I still disagree as the BBC has to strike a balance between all levels of interest, plus people dipping in and out.

Experts like Thorpe, Foster, Johnson, etc are excellent but individual presenters like Balding etc will always be personal preference. Someone says they don't like Hugh Porter, I think he is great as do many of the media commentators.

They also have a duty to explain sports to the non familiar viewer. It is a tough line to tread to please 10m viewers all at once.

saxoneagle
07-08-2012, 08:41 PM
Not a pop, just a gentle ribbing, but you don't pay the BBC 50 a year do you? You pay the local broadcaster who in turn chooses what channels they buy from the BBC - is that right? In Holland and Belgium you get regular BBC1 and BBC 2 as that is what they broadcast.

And, I pay 150 a year, plus Sky to get all the extra red button services, plus BT Broadband to get the online services.

Still, makes a change from teaming up to defend Andy Murray.....:)

True, but the package without BBC is 50 quid less. I'm sure they don't get it all, but it's still more than you lot pay for 24 or whatever channels...

Big Blue Eagle
07-08-2012, 08:48 PM
True, but the package without BBC is 50 quid less. I'm sure they don't get it all, but it's still more than you lot pay for 24 or whatever channels...
To get the regular 40-60 digital channels, plus currently one extra red button channel we pay 145pa. I then pay 55 a month for Sky, Sports package & HD, plus 20 a month or do for broadband.....no idea what Freeview costs.

Oisin
07-08-2012, 09:20 PM
True, but the package without BBC is 50 quid less. I'm sure they don't get it all, but it's still more than you lot pay for 24 or whatever channels...

I pay 60 USD a year for a VPN and get all the UK channels on line. How much telly do you watch?

rhino_mik
07-08-2012, 10:06 PM
I use a Sky box for Freesat and get all the BBC red button events without having to grease the palm of the slippery digger!

jone-zee
07-08-2012, 10:34 PM
is there any reason why the coverage has to switch between BBC1 and 2 for the news? Tonight BBC2 showed the main news then they still switched so BBC 1 could show Guardianista round up sorry BBC London News? ;) for 20 poxy minutes. Its not as if all viewers cant get 625 lines these days.

ebyeeckeagle
07-08-2012, 10:41 PM
Great coverage.

Particularly on the red button for us UK licence payers :p

west country boy
07-08-2012, 10:41 PM
So you pay 100 quid a year for your TV license, I pay 50 quid a month for BBC but I don't have a right to complain about how my money is spent and the quality of what they feed to their "prime" channels?

Idiotic comment, but feel free to have a pop at me if you want. Again."Licence".

Bobby Woodruff
08-08-2012, 01:27 AM
is there any reason why the coverage has to switch between BBC1 and 2 for the news? Tonight BBC2 showed the main news then they still switched so BBC 1 could show Guardianista round up sorry BBC London News? ;) for 20 poxy minutes. Its not as if all viewers cant get 625 lines these days.

BBC2 doesn't have the capacity to be split up between regions so the regional programmes have to be on BBC1. They had the same problem during Wimbledon when Murray was playing and the messed about with the schedules so that he could be on BBC1 rather than the scheduled BBC2.

And why the **** do you think BBC London News is 'Guardianista' (whatever the **** that means)?

Big Blue Eagle
08-08-2012, 07:01 AM
BBC2 doesn't have the capacity to be split up between regions so the regional programmes have to be on BBC1. They had the same problem during Wimbledon when Murray was playing and the messed about with the schedules so that he could be on BBC1 rather than the scheduled BBC2.

And why the **** do you think BBC London News is 'Guardianista' (whatever the **** that means)?

Soc Lib conspiracy innit guv............

ChiswickEagle
09-08-2012, 10:09 PM
McEnroe looks trousered on BBC1 at the min?

Big Blue Eagle
17-08-2012, 07:49 AM
Interesting blog from the BBC on the scale and reach of their Olympic coverage - I think the comparisons with a "Coronation Moment" ie - when the nation embraced TV for the first time, are accurate. The mix of red button, mobile, on line video etc etc etc has really taken off in the past two weeks.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/sporteditors/2012/08/record_breaking_viewing_figure.html