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SW6er
15-11-2014, 01:28 PM
Good write up here about what it was like to travel on the old football specials,

http://cfccathy.wordpress.com/2014/11/15/travelling-by-cfc-special-in-70s80s/

leicester1
15-11-2014, 01:40 PM
Some really good memories of travelling to away games on the football specials,aged 12 and watching all that the older lads got up to.....then travelling with lots of lads your own age thinking your the bees knees when in reality the police were the main reason you were still alive on returning to Leicester....started using them in the 1977 season i think.....some games there would be 100's and you'd arrive at your destination singing which always sounded loud inside a train station and then you'd get the odd one,night game,West Ham...and theres only about 50 travelling on the football special and you'd watch all these lads deciding not to go with such a small turn out,but you'd still go down to London,which was pretty daunting as West Ham would be waiting at Barking then mingle in when you transferred to the Tube....then you had to get up Green Street......then West Ham would even be in the away end with you.....:p

leicester1
15-11-2014, 02:00 PM
Good write up by the way,football specials would have been more or less the same for every football fan....the worst of the rolling stock,longer journeys than if you travelled on the service train,no food or drink available....herded around like cattle .....fans had to make their own entertainment and did......in the 70's and especially 80's you just knew that at some towns you visited the escort would be attacked at some point so even if you'd watched a boring 0-0 with rain soaking you on an uncovered terrace it was still exciting and you had to have your wits about you......

Mad Max
15-11-2014, 02:53 PM
Wet bloody sham :( was on a normal service train back from Man Citeh in 80/81.Train stopped at Crew and wet sham were on their way back from someone in Wales IIRC.They smashed the bloody train to pieces.

old git
15-11-2014, 02:56 PM
I was going through some old programmes the other day and found these.

Del Fenner
15-11-2014, 07:54 PM
Good write up here about what it was like to travel on the old football specials,

http://cfccathy.wordpress.com/2014/11/15/travelling-by-cfc-special-in-70s80s/

Some of us non-plastic types know first-hand what it was like. :rolleyes:

Del Fenner
15-11-2014, 08:01 PM
I was going through some old programmes the other day and found these.

That Birmingham trip I was thrown out of St Andrews by the West Midlands filth for joining in with the singing.

That Swansea trip was the one where Steve Kember scored direct from a corner.

SW6er
15-11-2014, 08:52 PM
Some of us non-plastic types know first-hand what it was like. :rolleyes:

This might come as a shock to you, but so do i:bash:

old git
15-11-2014, 08:57 PM
That Birmingham trip I was thrown out of St Andrews by the West Midlands filth for joining in with the singing.

That Swansea trip was the one where Steve Kember scored direct from a corner.

That's the one ,we were in a crappy pen along the touchline.I went to the second replay at cardiff as well.

SW6er
15-11-2014, 09:09 PM
My first ever away game up north was in 86/87 at Man City i was aged 16, we won 2.1 & played in a Jade away kit, i've still got my Chelsea special train itenaray from that day
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOLrTFfCQAA1sZY.jpg


We used to have a lovely old girl on our specials looking after us young lads, called Breda, sadly her son Gary was killed at Preston in 80/81, he got chased by some locals, jumped over a wall to escape & fell to his death, to her credit she carried on working on the specials until finally age caught up with her, she died a few years ago.

Leeds away in 89(i think) they petrol bombed our special with one Leeds lad getting 7 years for it.

The woman who wrote that article, Cathy is well known at Chelsea, she's only missed one game home & away in 35 years & that includes pre season trips to Sweden in the early 80s to Asia & America in recent years.
The game she missed was v Rubin away in the Europa League the other year because she was skint & the trip cost nearly a 1,000, The Daily Mail & Sky done an interview with her, Sky picked her up & had her on Sky news then filmed her in a pub near Stamford Bridge where she watched the game.

old git
15-11-2014, 09:16 PM
We shared a special train with west ham once on a league cup nightTthey had the rear 6 carriages and we had the front 6.They were at Burnley and we were at Bolton so the special dropped us off at Wigan where we all caught a local train.After the match we then had to get back to Wigan and wait .As we had nearly an hour we went outside and settled down in a pub.Unfortunately the Wigan special then returned from Blackpool (correction Preston) and they wanted a drink only to find us taking up the whole pub.
You can guess the rest.:D

leicester1
16-11-2014, 08:20 AM
Thats interesting OG.....Sharing a football special.....tell us more.....

old git
16-11-2014, 02:03 PM
Thats interesting OG.....Sharing a football special.....tell us more.....

As it was an early round of the league cup and was two legs the demand was not there for a special train each.Bearing in mind this was in 1981 and the ICF were at their height the west ham fans were alright.I suppose arriving back at Euston around 3 a.m. helped dampen the mood for any shenanigans, although they did wait around on the concourse to give us the eyeball which was more for show than anything else.

norwood58
16-11-2014, 04:32 PM
My first trip on a Special was to Bury in 1975 in the old 3rd division. as a 17 year old. I had no idea where Bury was just somewhere up north! I arrived at Euston at 8.30 ish and was amazed how many Palace were there some already carrying and drinking from party 7's ( Ask your Dads about them}. I boarded the train which really was more like a cattle truck and we embarked on a journey that seemed to take an eternity. I soon became a regular traveller and remember some great and frankly scary moments during the height of Football violence. Its a great shame that they do not run em any more.

leicester1
16-11-2014, 06:08 PM
Cheers OG....interesting stuff......the Football Specials were apt for their time in my opinion,to be honest i would'nt use them these days as i really would'nt want to travel with some of the modern supporters ....same with club coaches....back in 1997 or thereabouts our club ran a load of coaches to Madrid,they endured a nightmare journey stopping and starting and then got battoned by the police in Madrid and generally herded around like condemned animals........all the supporters that made their own way to Madrid by rail,air and like me by road had an absolute Beano.....drinking in Madrids squares then 200 of us cordoned off in the Madrid seats opposite the away end and then a few pints and chinese meal before bed.....independent travel for me..:p

big bad John
16-11-2014, 06:33 PM
My first trip on a Special was to Bury in 1975 in the old 3rd division. as a 17 year old. I had no idea where Bury was just somewhere up north! I arrived at Euston at 8.30 ish and was amazed how many Palace were there some already carrying and drinking from party 7's ( Ask your Dads about them}. I boarded the train which really was more like a cattle truck and we embarked on a journey that seemed to take an eternity. I soon became a regular traveller and remember some great and frankly scary moments during the height of Football violence. Its a great shame that they do not run em any more.

I was on that trip with the good old Railway Travelers Club.

old git
16-11-2014, 06:36 PM
Cheers OG....interesting stuff......the Football Specials were apt for their time in my opinion

Totally agree,the idea of being on a dry train and herded to the ground with no pub does not appeal.
The first dry train I went on was to Shrewsbury but we got round that by entering our train through the Windows of the adjoining one .Hiding the spirit bottles from the BTP was all part of the fun.:D

Biscuitmen
04-12-2014, 12:42 AM
Remember a sort of 'football special' going down to Bournemouth in 2001 - the Police forced all to travel by train to avoid any potential trouble. This not taking into account that the game had been moved to a Thursday night for TV, and 4,000 odd Reading fans (loads without tickets) had spent the day by the beach boozed up. Kicked off a bit.

EastBerksEagle
04-12-2014, 01:53 PM
I remember we shared a special with QPR , we were at Forest and them at Leicester(or the other way round)

Twin of Droy
05-12-2014, 11:58 PM
I remember we would often share a special for Man U away.
The front coach was for cockney reds.

Ferris Bueller
06-12-2014, 12:50 AM
I was going through some old programmes the other day and found these.

Wow. That one to Birmingham is 5 days after I was born

Martinsleftpeg
06-12-2014, 11:00 AM
We used to produce a regular rail travellers magazine in the 70's I recall Chris Wright was the editor it was a bit rough and ready but helped shorten the journey.