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vitesse
25-07-2015, 12:48 AM
Did anyone watch it? There was a guy in his 60's called Tom working at Gatwick. Who used to play for Palace in the 60's and said he played against Tottenham on Boxing Day against Jimmy Greaves, Mullery, then played Chelsea at home and got beat 1-5 which looking at the records looks like 27/12/1969.

Then he said he broke his leg at Rotherham aged 21 and that was the end of it.

Anyone remember him?

cpfc4evandeva
25-07-2015, 01:00 AM
I watched this myself and after looking around, it seems he was Tom Vansittart. Seems like a really decent bloke.

Shit programme though.

Hedgehog
25-07-2015, 01:30 AM
I believe Tommy Vansittart scored a hat trick in a 6-0 win over Norwich, but that may have been in Division 2.

Never to be heard of again from what I remember.

StonePenge
25-07-2015, 01:37 AM
I saw him play.
According to the Ian King book he played 10 league games and a cup game for us.Scored two goals.

Hedgehog
25-07-2015, 01:55 AM
I'll try and scan this over the weekend, but I found the game report of Palace 6 Norwich 0 headlined, "Young Star Tom Guns Down Norwich"

Goal scorers: Woodruff 2, Vansittart 2, Light, Lazarus

Att: 7,745

Date: April 16, 1968

m90nev
25-07-2015, 06:51 AM
Morning all, Yes it is Tom Vansittart, I've worked with him for last 11 years (and I was the big chap in the programme).

StonePenge is spot on, Tom then went on to play quite a few games for Wrexham before a knee injury retired him early. He is friendly with Super Al but rarely sees him these days.

OldPeanutSeller
25-07-2015, 07:17 AM
I'll try and scan this over the weekend, but I found the game report of Palace 6 Norwich 0 headlined, "Young Star Tom Guns Down Norwich"

Goal scorers: Woodruff 2, Vansittart 2, Light, Lazarus

Att: 7,745

Date: April 16, 1968

Nostalgic goalscorers in there. Takes me back.

Worksop Palace
25-07-2015, 07:24 AM
Nostalgic goalscorers in there. Takes me back.

Look at the attendance !

Were the HF in protest mode again ?

DARZET EAGLE
25-07-2015, 09:35 AM
Look at the attendance !

Were the HF in protest mode again ?

Looks like the whole ground was! Fussy lot we were then particularly having had 30k + to Third/Fourth division games.

BaldEagle96
25-07-2015, 10:14 AM
Watching the programme I had to rewind when I thought I heard him say he had played for the Palace.. Top man!! :)

Hedgehog
25-07-2015, 02:25 PM
Look at the attendance !

Were the HF in protest mode again ?
The report said it was a season low.

Tuesday night, April...

I remember this game (I didn't go) because I was doing my paper round the next morning and the first thing I would do when I got to the first delivery stop was read the sports section, and I remember reading this one very clearly as I think it was the first time I had ever heard of Palace winning 6-0 in my time as a fan.

I'll dig out my scanner later. I think I have a picture of him too.

Hedgehog
25-07-2015, 02:26 PM
Nostalgic goalscorers in there. Takes me back.
Exactly what I thought!

Hedgehog
25-07-2015, 07:27 PM
Let's see if this works:

http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af333/rhodgkin01/d9b92a4d-129c-47ee-a70a-fd16f4e5cd63.jpg

Odd - we actually played at Norwich the day before an lost 2-1 (Must have been Easter)

Apparently Sellotape does not last 47 years.

Hedgehog
25-07-2015, 07:35 PM
I can't find a report on the Spurs game (which we lost 2-0)... but found the Chelsea game which he definitely played in. Here is one of two (I had to split it to fit the scanner).

http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af333/rhodgkin01/56b4a6b6-73bb-41e8-9e5a-28ab8fef9da4.jpg

Hedgehog
25-07-2015, 07:47 PM
I was at the game, but can't say I remember anything about it, or anyone playing in it.

Part 2 of 2:

http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af333/rhodgkin01/fa7bbc06-549d-46e0-9ca6-725d23be6100.jpg

evvo111
25-07-2015, 08:25 PM
Let's see if this works:

http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af333/rhodgkin01/d9b92a4d-129c-47ee-a70a-fd16f4e5cd63.jpg

Odd - we actually played at Norwich the day before an lost 2-1 (Must have been Easter)

Apparently Sellotape does not last 47 years.

I'm sorry that can't possibly be right...Brighton aren't in the top 2 divisions, surely not?

Hedgehog
25-07-2015, 11:19 PM
I'm sorry that can't possibly be right...Brighton aren't in the top 2 divisions, surely not?
They must have been in the European Super League that season.

big bad John
26-07-2015, 12:36 AM
Let's see if this works:

http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af333/rhodgkin01/d9b92a4d-129c-47ee-a70a-fd16f4e5cd63.jpg

Odd - we actually played at Norwich the day before an lost 2-1 (Must have been Easter)

Apparently Sellotape does not last 47 years.


Great stuff Hedgehog. See a couple of our future stars, Derek Possee and Alan Birchenall were on the score sheet that day as well. Was just looking at our attendances that season. They fluctuated quite a bit. We had an even lower attendance for our final home game of the season, but we also had over 38,000 for the visit of Q.P.R, more than 30,000 for the Millwall match and 27,000 for a third round cup replay against Walsall.

Hedgehog
26-07-2015, 05:07 PM
An unrelated story but when I went to put the scrapbook back in the box in the garage I put in on the hood/bonnet of my car while I dug around in the box for something else (I think you can see where this is going).

Anyway - I went out last night to get some Chinese, and as I get to the end of my street much to my shock I see the scrapbook teetering on the hood/bonnet.

This thing is crumbling, and loose cutting are everywhere in it. If this had fallen off and I had even noticed this could have been lost for good.

Got really lucky.

evvo111
26-07-2015, 06:48 PM
They must have been in the European Super League that season.

:D

big bad John
26-07-2015, 11:55 PM
An unrelated story but when I went to put the scrapbook back in the box in the garage I put in on the hood/bonnet of my car while I dug around in the box for something else (I think you can see where this is going).

Anyway - I went out last night to get some Chinese, and as I get to the end of my street much to my shock I see the scrapbook teetering on the hood/bonnet.

This thing is crumbling, and loose cutting are everywhere in it. If this had fallen off and I had even noticed this could have been lost for good.

Got really lucky.



Somewhere in Southern California, a puzzled citizen tries to make sense of the tattered headline "Queen in brawl at the Palace" that has just blown onto his manicured lawn.:)

Hedgehog
27-07-2015, 12:01 AM
Somewhere in Southern California, a puzzled citizen tries to make sense of the tattered headline "Queen in brawl at the Palace" that has just blown onto his manicured lawn.:)
Exactly what I was thinking!

StonePenge
27-07-2015, 01:19 AM
Then the next page reads "Queen Scores at the Palace"

moverman
27-07-2015, 08:30 AM
Great stuff Hedgehog. See a couple of our future stars, Derek Possee and Alan Birchenall were on the score sheet that day as well.

You missed out Neil Martin who scored a penalty for Coventry City, he came to us around 1974/75 I think....

Percy Dalton
27-07-2015, 09:11 AM
Great stuff Hedgehog. See a couple of our future stars, Derek Possee and Alan Birchenall were on the score sheet that day as well. Was just looking at our attendances that season. They fluctuated quite a bit. We had an even lower attendance for our final home game of the season, but we also had over 38,000 for the visit of Q.P.R, more than 30,000 for the Millwall match and 27,000 for a third round cup replay against Walsall.

I am sure the Norwich game was the first home game following a 5-0 mauling at the Den which capped a bad run which had seen our promotion hopes go up in a puff of smoke after a good start to the season. The 1-0 win against QPR at home had seen us top the table for the first time in our history.

We also beat Norwich 5-0 the next season in a reserve fixture in which both clubs played their full strength teams in an effort to keep them match fit as the very cold winter of 68/69 had caused fixture problems which in the end did Palace a favour as we went on that 17 game unbeaten run which took us up. :lux:

We also took revenge on Millwall as we did the double with two fantastic wins plus Jacko being the first keeper to save a Keith Weller penalty as we won 2-0 at the Den.

Harry Bassett
27-07-2015, 09:58 AM
Tommy Vansittart was a very exciting prospect in our youth team with almost the same level of expectation of John Bostock in later years. I used to watch him play during that time on a fairly regular basis and was very disappointed when his career faltered and he moved on.

I seem to recall that he was from Morden/Merton area.

KYLIE MINEAGLE
27-07-2015, 10:46 AM
I am sure the Norwich game was the first home game following a 5-0 mauling at the Den which capped a bad run which had seen our promotion hopes go up in a puff of smoke after a good start to the season. The 1-0 win against QPR at home had seen us top the table for the first time in our history.

We also beat Norwich 5-0 the next season in a reserve fixture in which both clubs played their full strength teams in an effort to keep them match fit as the very cold winter of 68/69 had caused fixture problems which in the end did Palace a favour as we went on that 17 game unbeaten run which took us up. :lux:

We also took revenge on Millwall as we did the double with two fantastic wins plus Jacko being the first keeper to save a Keith Weller penalty as we won 2-0 at the Den.

I was at all of those Millwall games Percy and I tell you the Den wasn't a nice place to be when Jacko saved that penalty . Top it off with Lazarus running round he ground giving the knuckle draggers two fingers after scoring . As a 16 year old lad on his own because he was late meeting up with mates it was damned scary.:eek:

Percy Dalton
27-07-2015, 01:14 PM
I was also at all those games. You are spot in when Jacko saved the penalty it was a bit hot to say the least. Never forget to old boys must have been about early 70's slugging it out in the stand ! Happy days......

big bad John
27-07-2015, 11:14 PM
You missed out Neil Martin who scored a penalty for Coventry City, he came to us around 1974/75 I think....

good call Pete. played about ten games for us in 76. Was at all the games he played in, but can't remember him.

ammiller
29-07-2015, 01:09 PM
Got him on a free from Brighton.
I'm sure he was a "forward".
He seemed to feature in all those home games we had in hand that we could only draw 0-0.

ian king
29-07-2015, 02:11 PM
Looks like the whole ground was! Fussy lot we were then particularly having had 30k + to Third/Fourth division games.

As said Palace on a bad run and had lost to Norwich the previous day (Easter Monday).
One of the games that sticks in the memory as it was a warm Tuesday evening
and I was sitting on the grass on the Park Road side. First time watching Palace win 6-0!

moverman
30-07-2015, 07:25 AM
Got him on a free from Brighton.
I'm sure he was a "forward".
He seemed to feature in all those home games we had in hand that we could only draw 0-0.

I remember him well, came with high expectations as he'd been a decent player in his earlier days at Forest and Coventry. Think he scored his only goal for us in the home 1-1 draw with Halifax Town, the one where Peter Taylor missed a penalty I think..

moverman
30-07-2015, 07:27 AM
Was at all the games he played in, but can't remember him.

It's the NY air John...:hi: