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danibutcher
06-12-2015, 10:22 PM
As i've only been going to Palace from the 92/93 season I have only known the palace away to be in the Arthur.

Has this always been the case? Has there always been a designated away end or were we once civilised enough that it was mixed?

Anyone have any info or stories?

Worksop Palace
06-12-2015, 10:24 PM
Think the Whitehorse was used as away end for a few seasons was it not ?

TrevorWel
06-12-2015, 10:36 PM
The far left corner of the Holmesdale terrace was the away end from about 1980 until the stand was built.



Palace 1 West Brom 1 - 1987

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fIinpnK8Yzg/UWglwY-dCvI/AAAAAAAAC8k/wtXVif-mOQo/s1600/h+wba+1-1+18.4.87.jpg

TrevorWel
06-12-2015, 10:38 PM
Palace 1 Leeds 0, 1987

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KzAvBoD55kU/UVaYHk6zBLI/AAAAAAAACyM/H5m2iuAODU4/s1600/IMG_0019_edited-1+copy.jpg

TrevorWel
06-12-2015, 10:40 PM
2-0 v Blackburn 1987

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-CeqzLnh9oxo/UVa5ErbBmSI/AAAAAAAACzo/xBw6Q_1txD4/s1600/15260.jpg

ebyeeckeagle
06-12-2015, 10:41 PM
Used to be in the Whitehorse when I started. Then, as above, into the corner of the Holmesdale. Which could get lively.

TrevorWel
06-12-2015, 10:50 PM
The away end back in the Whitehorse



http://www.holmesdale.net/board_files/downloads/1658976_old%20selhurst.jpg

ebyeeckeagle
06-12-2015, 10:50 PM
It was divided into 3 section. 1 was the away bit. Only team to ever take the piss was Chelsea but that may be selective memory. During the dross of much of the 80s, crowds were more modest.

Jim Cannon
06-12-2015, 10:57 PM
The away end back in the Whitehorse



http://www.holmesdale.net/board_files/downloads/1658976_old%20selhurst.jpg

One of my childhood memories was a 0-2 defeat at home to ManUre and I can remember them singing and there were a couple of blokes standing up on the white blocks conducting them. Wankers

Langers
07-12-2015, 12:08 AM
Used to be in the Whitehorse when I started. Then, as above, into the corner of the Holmesdale. Which could get lively.

The Whitehorse was mixed - I used to sit on the wall in the early seventies and unless it was a London derby the number of away fans was minimal. I do remember Newcastle fans in the Whitehorse and at half time they got a ball onto the pitch and a few of them started taking shots into the goal much to everyone's amusement.

Hedgehog
07-12-2015, 01:24 AM
Back in the early 70's the away end was whichever end they wanted!

The Holmesdale got "taken" nearly every home game.

LONDONMAN
07-12-2015, 06:55 AM
Back in the early 70's the away end was whichever end they wanted!

The Holmesdale got "taken" nearly every home game.

You may need to explain that to 'newer' members of the football community, Hedgehog!

As a few have already posted, up until about the early 1980's, Away supporters used to congregate in the Whitehorse Lane End, which was actually quite a big standing area, back in the day, probably capable of holding up to 14,000 in it's own.

There were very rarely any tickets bought in advance, unless it was a massive Cup tie, so people just used to pay at the turnstile on the day of the match (if you were not a season ticket holder) for most games.

There was no real 'segregation' of home and away fans until the late 1970's, so you eould aleays get a fair amount of home fans mixed in with the away supporters, which would always get a bit interesting, if the away club's fans wanted some action apart from the match itself.

The general rule for visiting teams yobs, would be to at least attempt an assault of some kind on the home club's end in reality it would be a group of fans anywhere between a few dozen to a few hundred who would either gain entry to the Holmesdale or in extreme casesx run from one side of the ground to the other snd either fight their way to the most vocal spot or just take over by weight of numbers.

This action seemed to take place at most grounds through out the 70's, to a greater or lesser degree and fighting was usually just confined to those wanting to take part, with thousands of people standing around not getting involved at all or moving out of the way.

Very different times to today's environment. The Away fans section got moved to the corner of the Holmesdale in the early 80's, roughly where there is the gap now up to and including Blocks A, B and C.

I think the away fans hot put in the Arthur once the Holmesdale Stand was finished in 1995 , and up until 2010, they were in the section nearest to the Holmesdale that lead to many memorable confrontations between various fans.

KYLIE MINEAGLE
07-12-2015, 07:46 AM
You may need to explain that to 'newer' members of the football community, Hedgehog!

As a few have already posted, up until about the early 1980's, Away supporters used to congregate in the Whitehorse Lane End, which was actually quite a big standing area, back in the day, probably capable of holding up to 14,000 in it's own.

There were very rarely any tickets bought in advance, unless it was a massive Cup tie, so people just used to pay at the turnstile on the day of the match (if you were not a season ticket holder) for most games.

There was no real 'segregation' of home and away fans until the late 1970's, so you eould aleays get a fair amount of home fans mixed in with the away supporters, which would always get a bit interesting, if the away club's fans wanted some action apart from the match itself.

The general rule for visiting teams yobs, would be to at least attempt an assault of some kind on the home club's end in reality it would be a group of fans anywhere between a few dozen to a few hundred who would either gain entry to the Holmesdale or in extreme casesx run from one side of the ground to the other snd either fight their way to the most vocal spot or just take over by weight of numbers.

This action seemed to take place at most grounds through out the 70's, to a greater or lesser degree and fighting was usually just confined to those wanting to take part, with thousands of people standing around not getting involved at all or moving out of the way.

Very different times to today's environment. The Away fans section got moved to the corner of the Holmesdale in the early 80's, roughly where there is the gap now up to and including Blocks A, B and C.

I think the away fans hot put in the Arthur once the Holmesdale Stand was finished in 1995 , and up until 2010, they were in the section nearest to the Holmesdale that lead to many memorable confrontations between various fans.

We will now sing the first three verses of ''Those were the days my friend''.

Vince Hilaire's Afro
07-12-2015, 11:18 AM
Palace 1 Leeds 0, 1987

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KzAvBoD55kU/UVaYHk6zBLI/AAAAAAAACyM/H5m2iuAODU4/s1600/IMG_0019_edited-1+copy.jpg

I may be imagining this, but i think the away fans also used to get some seating at the top of the Arthur nearest the away corner, and if they had a particularly large following, would get some terracing in the AW directly under their seats.

Ash
07-12-2015, 11:52 AM
I may be imagining this, but i think the away fans also used to get some seating at the top of the Arthur nearest the away corner, and if they had a particularly large following, would get some terracing in the AW directly under their seats.

Correct. The seating, I do remember. That was more or less directly behind our vocal section in the enclosure. I remember both Leeds and Pompey firms jumping down into the enclosure from the seats in order to engage in some jovial banter.

The friendly exchanges at the infamous Birmingham fancy-dress day started up in those seats too. Palace waded in up there, got pegged back by their "Zulus", resulting in mayhem ensuing down on the pitch as the away terrace spilled out to try and get involved.

Also, relative to the picture above, I stewarded a handful of Charlton games during the ground share. Charlton vs Chelsea, I was stationed right where the old bill is stood in the photo, to the right of the Leeds flag and just in front of the floodlight. That was some experience... with coins, stones, bits of rubble whizzing over my head for a good 10 minutes non-stop.

WLYWLYAWYPWF
07-12-2015, 12:00 PM
Correct. More or less directly behind the vocal section in the enclosure. I remember both Leeds and Pompey firms jumping down into the enclosure from the seats in order to engage in some jovial banter.

The friendly exchanges at the infamous Birmingham fancy-dress day started up in those seats too. Palace waded in up there, got pegged back by their "Zulus", resulting in mayhem ensuing down on the pitch as the away terrace spilled out to try and get involved.

Villa ended up chucking many of those seats in to the enclosure after Ian Wright scored a late pen to deny them victory. Was good fun dodging them along with the coins whistling past our heads. More brum scum causing aggro.

DARZET EAGLE
07-12-2015, 12:05 PM
No away ends until the early 70's I believe prompted by 'football hooliganism'.
Prior to that away fans used to mingle unless they were Millwall! The enclosure in front of the main stand was accessible to all fans, as was the terracing on three sides of the ground.

Big Gav
07-12-2015, 12:05 PM
Villa ended up chucking many of those seats in to the enclosure after Ian Wright scored a late pen to deny them victory. Was good fun dodging them along with the coins whistling past our heads. More brum scum causing aggro.

Tell me about it I got arrested for allegedly throwing coins back at them!

Ash
07-12-2015, 12:09 PM
Charlton also, remember they smashed up the tiles in the carzies up there and were lobbing them don't onto us in the enclosure.

Bubble Wrap
07-12-2015, 12:10 PM
Back in the early 70's the away end was whichever end they wanted!

The Holmesdale got "taken" nearly every home game.

What bollocks you talk.
Can only remember Chelsea taking the Holmsdale coming from the top. Most of the trouble was in the Whitehorse and Arthur. Despite what people think Our club had quite a few mobs that engaged with away fans.

Jerry Murphy's Fringe
07-12-2015, 12:13 PM
Palace 1 Leeds 0, 1987

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KzAvBoD55kU/UVaYHk6zBLI/AAAAAAAACyM/H5m2iuAODU4/s1600/IMG_0019_edited-1+copy.jpg

I remember that metal tunnel / walkway appearing, I thought it was the end of football as we knew it - all very modern and in sharp contrast to the general atmosphere of decline of the mid 80's.
I can still hear the sounds of football boots on wet mud as the players gathered for a corner at the Holmesdale end.
Where has all the mud gone, now? It was about the only thing I had in common with real footballers while I was playing for the local U14's.

Ash
07-12-2015, 12:24 PM
Anyone remember that fat short-arse copper always stood at the back of enclosure in those days... PC ZN710. A proper nasty bastard!

Andrew Aitchison
07-12-2015, 12:30 PM
I remember that metal tunnel / walkway appearing, I thought it was the end of football as we knew it.

I remember that once they put the walkways in the Holmesdale all of a sudden felt alot smaller. No rational reason for that, but true all the same.

WLYWLYAWYPWF
07-12-2015, 12:33 PM
Tell me about it I got arrested for allegedly throwing coins back at them!

Allegedly. :D

WLYWLYAWYPWF
07-12-2015, 12:39 PM
Anyone remember that fat short-arse copper always stood at the back of enclosure in those days... PC ZN710. A proper nasty bastard!

I remember getting my arm wrenched up my back and being marched up to the top of the Holmesdale for a little photo shoot before being ejected. You didn't have to do much if they were in the mood or bored in them days. Always hung around till the gates reopened and headed back in for the last 20. I was actually on TV highlights the next day patting Tony Finnegan on the back as he trudged off at full time. Always hoped that the copper who chucked me out was watching that.

Ash
07-12-2015, 12:57 PM
Ah yes, the little police room at the top of the Holmesdale. Despite being dragged up there a few times myself back in the day, I had forgotten all about that. Some days it only took one swear word in a song and you were hauled-out of the crowd backwards by the collar!!

WLYWLYAWYPWF
07-12-2015, 01:12 PM
Ah yes, the little police room at the top of the Holmesdale. Despite being dragged up there a few times myself back in the day, I had forgotten all about that. Some days it only took one swear word in a song and you were hauled-out of the crowd backwards by the collar!!

Yep. I think I got kicked out for the keeper you're shit chant on one occasion. Pathetic. When it went off against Birmingham the old bill were nowhere to be seen for ages but if you said the word shit they would all come out of the woodwork.

Chocky
07-12-2015, 03:21 PM
I remember the away being in the Whitehorse with two lines of coppers each side, the rest home fans. I can't remember any trouble in there but saw a few running battles in the Holmesdale from 2.30 to kick off when the away fans were always f*cked off out of it in the end either by Palace or the police.

SA Eagle
07-12-2015, 03:32 PM
Ah yes, the little police room at the top of the Holmesdale. Despite being dragged up there a few times myself back in the day, I had forgotten all about that. Some days it only took one swear word in a song and you were hauled-out of the crowd backwards by the collar!!

Indeed! Although they all mysteriously disappeared whenever the likes of Millwall were around and there was some proper police work to be done.

Chocky
07-12-2015, 03:40 PM
I got thrown out of the AW enclosure for doing a wanker sign at Brighton when they came out the tunnel ffs. Not nicked just chucked out so I went round the Holmesdale and got back in. Pathetic.

Pub Idol
07-12-2015, 04:02 PM
The corner actually looked fairly glorious IMO. Would love to have visited Selhurst in the 60's. To walk all the way round must have been fantastic.

Jim Cannon
07-12-2015, 04:15 PM
Ah yes, the little police room at the top of the Holmesdale. Despite being dragged up there a few times myself back in the day, I had forgotten all about that. Some days it only took one swear word in a song and you were hauled-out of the crowd backwards by the collar!!

In those days people used to get chucked out and just pay to get back in again:D

Ash
07-12-2015, 04:27 PM
or climb back in :)

delboy01
07-12-2015, 04:28 PM
As has been said in the 70's there was no official away end but I don't recall the Holmesdale being taken that often.

I can recall Chelsea taking the Holmesdale, millwall having a go. Even when we played chesterfield, millwall turned up as they needed a draw to go up which they got. They were at the upper Holmesdale end. They came in at half time.

The Arse had a go two weeks after they took brighton but came unstuck!

Sheff wed filled the Whitehorse but the palace Whitehorse mob still had a go and ended up in the main stand. We won 4-0.

Brighton had a go mid 70's........at 2pm when there were only a few dozen palace there. They soon exited via the pitch and legged it to the other end.

For most of the early 70's we were in div 3 so not many major clubs to take on.

It was more tasty away as I recall. Watford, peterboro and Swindon always being fun. When we did go to a big side we took thousands.

Portsmouth were given the whole of the Holmesdale when they needed a win to go up. We won 1-0! ;) I would say they had 5/8's of the attendance that day. Only time that's happened.

Liverpool in the cup after the 0-0 at anfield was very lively as there were battles all game at their place.

petertaylor11
07-12-2015, 04:29 PM
What bollocks you talk.
Can only remember Chelsea taking the Holmsdale coming from the top. Most of the trouble was in the Whitehorse and Arthur. Despite what people think Our club had quite a few mobs that engaged with away fans.

Late 70's/early 80's Tottenham definitely took the central part of the Holmesdale in a charge from the top.

Hedgehog
08-12-2015, 03:58 AM
One I remember in particular was Nottingham Forest in that first season in Division One.

Bit of a surprise really as I didn't think of then at the time as having a reputation.

Glaws Eagle
08-12-2015, 12:41 PM
Ohhhhhh .... you wont take the Holmesdale with the Whitehorse in it .....

Russell Nash
08-12-2015, 01:10 PM
Late 70's/early 80's Tottenham definitely took the central part of the Holmesdale in a charge from the top.

West Ham are the only fans I remember properly taking the Holmesdale in the 70's
I remember turning up a little late and seeing only West Ham in the middle bit from my position in the Arthur.

old git
08-12-2015, 08:55 PM
West Ham are the only fans I remember properly taking the Holmesdale in the 70's
I remember turning up a little late and seeing only West Ham in the middle bit from my position in the Arthur.

West ham,tottenham ,chelsea ,millwall.
Honourable mention to United and Arsenal who tried but got their arses kicked.:D
Bristol city had a go and were escorted to the whitehorse where they met some like minded Palace fans.:D

DocSavage
08-12-2015, 09:11 PM
What bollocks you talk.
Can only remember Chelsea taking the Holmsdale coming from the top. Most of the trouble was in the Whitehorse and Arthur. Despite what people think Our club had quite a few mobs that engaged with away fans.

I had season ticket 70 - 83 stood back of the holmesdale the goal slightly to our right 70 - 78 then half way in arthur.

I clearly recall most london fans taking large possession (perhaps not all) of holmesdale apart from arsenal who got seen off regularly, i always found tottenham worst they seemed to arrive and fill up teh holmesdale before breakfast so as we arrived the police herded us down the bottom - but also middlesborough who brought a solid bunch of thugs and man utd but also recall watching the whitehorse chase many a bunch of oppos around the steps especially brighton

i only popped into whitehorse twice - sheffield utd and leeds and got marched back to holmesdale each time

DocSavage
08-12-2015, 09:14 PM
Liverpool in the cup after the 0-0 at anfield was very lively as there were battles all game at their place.

yes i recall that we got a hiding at liverpool and they seemed most indignant at my glasgow rangers scarf and it was only time i joined the search for oppos in the streets afterwards but they were mighty fleet of foot

DocSavage
08-12-2015, 09:14 PM
oops

DocSavage
08-12-2015, 09:14 PM
oops

Ruskin Old Boy
08-12-2015, 09:50 PM
The corner actually looked fairly glorious IMO. Would love to have visited Selhurst in the 60's. To walk all the way round must have been fantastic.

It was fantastic.

We congregated behind the Holmesdale goal about 2 or 3 barriers up but mostly stayed there unless Palace were kicking towards the Whitehorse second half. Then we would walk round at half time and stand on the grass about where the concrete terrace ended.

First went in 59 for a school match but only the seated part of the main stand was open. No old bill at schools matches :)

Chocky
09-12-2015, 04:21 PM
West Ham are the only fans I remember properly taking the Holmesdale in the 70's
I remember turning up a little late and seeing only West Ham in the middle bit from my position in the Arthur.

'New Stand'. :)

HeathfieldEagle
09-12-2015, 04:49 PM
West Ham are the only fans I remember properly taking the Holmesdale in the 70's
I remember turning up a little late and seeing only West Ham in the middle bit from my position in the Arthur.

26 Aug 1978 Crystal Palace v West Ham United D 1-1

Agree, my recollection of that season is West Ham, with a big mob suddenly lifting their arms in unison "la la' ing" the tune to that silly bubble song exactly where the Palace singers used to congregate. Well organised - a good 100 I would say. I was 12 and just in front - there was a surge forward and I got out of the way - as did many others. I think they stayed there all game although don't re-call any trouble after that.

12 Nov 1977 Crystal Palace v Tottenham Hotspur L 1-2 League Division Two

This was the other one. I was 11 and decided to be the big man and stand at centre top Holmesdale. I remeber a lone Spud fan with a motorbike helmet chasing a Palace fan off.

Blimey, would an 11 year old generally be allowed to go Palace from Selsdon on his own these days?

Mad Max
09-12-2015, 05:03 PM
Anyone remember the 3-4 home defeat to spudz when Hilaire pushed the ref and got sent off.A spudz fan climbed up the floodlight pylon in the away section of the Holmesdale and unfurled a Jewish flag?

Vince Hilaire's Afro
09-12-2015, 05:44 PM
Anyone remember the 3-4 home defeat to spudz when Hilaire pushed the ref and got sent off.A spudz fan climbed up the floodlight pylon in the away section of the Holmesdale and unfurled a Jewish flag?

We were playing in yellow, I think it was a midweek game, and the away section was PACKED

Mad Max
09-12-2015, 07:20 PM
We were playing in yellow, I think it was a midweek game, and the away section was PACKEDI think you may be remembering this which was very similar to our away strip at the time.



https://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/f9/aa/aa/f9aaaa7698ca07e746b4fa20e3872df2.jpg&imgrefurl=https://www.pinterest.com/bearman1643/football-interest/&h=314&w=236&tbnid=VDYcJdld6CZ4aM:&docid=8a-GmXU0inmJeM&ei=un5oVs3YG8OteJOkj-gM&tbm=isch&ved=0ahUKEwjNneK9v8_JAhXDFh4KHRPSA80QMwhJKB8wHw

Mad Max
09-12-2015, 07:22 PM
https://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.truecoloursfootballkits.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/crystal-palace-a-77-80.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.truecoloursfootballkits.com/tag/football-kit/page/3&h=250&w=206&tbnid=dF2cgr00Ao1WZM:&docid=NXMB3-PZ_bkrzM&ei=R39oVq26MsT5eLqAhYgL&tbm=isch&ved=0ahUKEwjt-ZaBwM_JAhXEPB4KHTpAAbEQMwgkKAQwBA

Tom's Old Man
09-12-2015, 09:29 PM
As i've only been going to Palace from the 92/93 season I have only known the palace away to be in the Arthur.

Has this always been the case? Has there always been a designated away end or were we once civilised enough that it was mixed?

Anyone have any info or stories?
When I started going (mid 70s), the away supporters used the Whitehorse Lane end, which was for home and away fans. The 'old' Whitehorse was demolished after the 79/80 season, and prior to 80/81 the Holmesdale was split into three sections and segregated, with the away fans having the compound nearest the New Stand (or Arthur Wait as it became). From memory, only West Ham in the FA Cup 1984 and Chelsea (also 1984) were also given the middle compound, at least officially anyway! Further clubs were given both sections in the late 80s/early 90s, with Portsmouth having the whole end in their promotion year due to crowding and numbers outside. By the late 80s, the end seated section in the Arthur closest to the Holmesdale had become for away fans, and when the Enclosure was demolished to make the Arthur all seats in 1990/91, the number of seats for away fans was higher.
At least that's how I remember it, anyway.

TrevorWel
09-12-2015, 10:35 PM
Anyone remember the 3-4 home defeat to spudz when Hilaire pushed the ref and got sent off.A spudz fan climbed up the floodlight pylon in the away section of the Holmesdale and unfurled a Jewish flag?

Remember it well, odd cause I can't remember what I did five minutes ago.

I do believe it was the first ever all ticket match at Selhurst.

Vince Hilaire's Afro
09-12-2015, 11:51 PM
I think you may be remembering this which was very similar to our away strip at the time.



https://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/f9/aa/aa/f9aaaa7698ca07e746b4fa20e3872df2.jpg&imgrefurl=https://www.pinterest.com/bearman1643/football-interest/&h=314&w=236&tbnid=VDYcJdld6CZ4aM:&docid=8a-GmXU0inmJeM&ei=un5oVs3YG8OteJOkj-gM&tbm=isch&ved=0ahUKEwjNneK9v8_JAhXDFh4KHRPSA80QMwhJKB8wHw

Yes, my mistake. Always remembered their kit

Hedgehog
10-12-2015, 01:54 AM
Remember it well, odd cause I can't remember what I did five minutes ago.

I do believe it was the first ever all ticket match at Selhurst.
What about the Chelsea FA Cup game in 1970 or 71? I remember for some odd reason getting my ticket at Chelsea.

WestBerksPalace
18-12-2015, 04:56 PM
Late 70's/early 80's Tottenham definitely took the central part of the Holmesdale in a charge from the top.

Bristol City had a go in 79 and fared quite well with a small mob. Unusual for club out of London to try, although Manure did as well, and came off badly, again in about 79'.
Chelsea and Millwall were largely quite successful although I do remember the D3 game in 76, where the top of the Holmesdale was split 50/50 with Palace/Millwall and Palace had a right go at them.
Cardiff and Sheff Wed always came with lively mobs, and were best avoided!
Arsenal were never much, Spurs fared better. Palace even went in the North Bank in 80', hilarious.

WestBerksPalace
18-12-2015, 05:13 PM
But yes, the away end was the iconic unique Whitehorse end terrace in the 70s. Although it housed a goodly number of home fans as well, unless a London Derby, then people thought twice about going in there. By the D3 days, Palace had a bit of mob who used to go in there, and stand to the top left of it, near the Arthur Wait stand, and general intimidate the away following!

Russell Nash
18-12-2015, 05:20 PM
But yes, the away end was the iconic unique Whitehorse end terrace in the 70s. Although it housed a goodly number of home fans as well, unless a London Derby, then people thought twice about going in there. By the D3 days, Palace had a bit of mob who used to go in there, and stand to the top left of it, near the Arthur Wait stand, and general intimidate the away following!

I recall a legendary wearing of away team scarves and then removing them before having some argy bargy with Southampton if memory serves.

Am Phibian
18-12-2015, 06:40 PM
Bristol City had a go in 79 and fared quite well with a small mob. Unusual for club out of London to try, although Manure did as well, and came off badly, again in about 79'.
Chelsea and Millwall were largely quite successful although I do remember the D3 game in 76, where the top of the Holmesdale was split 50/50 with Palace/Millwall and Palace had a right go at them.
Cardiff and Sheff Wed always came with lively mobs, and were best avoided!
Arsenal were never much, Spurs fared better. Palace even went in the North Bank in 80', hilarious.



Bristol City did have a go but 45mins before kick off! The Holmesdale was half-empty and the centre mob hadn't turned up yet. They took 'a space'.

Chocky
18-12-2015, 06:45 PM
Yes, my mistake. Always remembered their kit

No you went all mental, we were at home so wore our white sash kit, Spurs played in plain yellow in the 4-3, a few years after we both had similar away Admiral kits.

Now come on!

Grim Reaper
19-12-2015, 12:09 AM
You didn't have to do much if they were in the mood or bored in them days. .

So true. I was thrown out for stage diving v Villa in 1992 when it turned it was Matt Simmons (who'd get somewhat more famous three years later.) Somewhat miffed as he was blonde and I had longish dark hair. WTF!

It was generally accepted the pigs wanted to get any regular/rowdy/laddish fan name and address on file so that if you ever did anything genuinely bad, you'd be easy to identify and arrest.

I do remember in my shock and embarrassmet and also fear that I was in for a beating from the Old Bill that I actually saud 'It's OK, it's a fair cop.' I think I read too many comics as a kid. :clown:

Vince Hilaire's Afro
19-12-2015, 12:59 AM
No you went all mental, we were at home so wore our white sash kit, Spurs played in plain yellow in the 4-3, a few years after we both had similar away Admiral kits.

Now come on!

I'm even more confused now. What I do remember though was that I was sitting just above the tunnel when Vince was sent off, and as he left the pitch he kind of hid his head in his shirt.

In fact, the whole incident inspired me to write a story entitled 'Vince Hilaire and his Amazing Dissent-Inducing Afro Hair', which I think I submitted to Eagle Eye.