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exiledeagle
22-01-2016, 10:20 PM
Random posts but was just thinking we have had quite a few solid popular down to earth full backs

John Pemberton
John Humphrey
Danny Butterfield
Peter Wall
Paul Hinshelwood
Joel Ward
Marc Edworthy

Never going to be stars in that position but always solid and dependable

davemorris04
22-01-2016, 10:30 PM
Emmerson Boyce

Shipp Ahoy!
22-01-2016, 10:40 PM
How did you miss Nat Clyne???

Our academy player and England RB!

Edit. Missed the whole solid dependable etc bit.

DARZET EAGLE
22-01-2016, 11:25 PM
Random posts but was just thinking we have had quite a few solid popular down to earth full backs

John Pemberton
John Humphrey
Danny Butterfield
Peter Wall
Paul Hinshelwood
Joel Ward
Marc Edworthy

Never going to be stars in that position but always solid and dependable

Just like Jack Edwards in the late fifties eh. Sorry showing my age now.

orp pisshead1
22-01-2016, 11:29 PM
Random posts but was just thinking we have had quite a few solid popular down to earth full backs

John Pemberton
John Humphrey
Danny Butterfield
Peter Wall
Paul Hinshelwood
Joel Ward
Marc Edworthy

Never going to be stars in that position but always solid and dependable

And you've missed two of the best Boyce n Clyne lol.
Can only remember as far back as Hinshelwood , for me defensively Boyce wins it. We was relegated minute he got injured imo.

orp pisshead1
22-01-2016, 11:31 PM
How did you miss Nat Clyne???

Our academy player and England RB!

Edit. Missed the whole solid dependable etc bit.

Ah i mis read it too. Still put Boyce at top of that list.

WLYWLYAWYPWF
23-01-2016, 12:13 AM
Jamie Smith

hughff
23-01-2016, 12:48 AM
Until Clyne, I always thought that RB was the one position where Palace never had a genuine star and never had a real duffer.

sheepy
23-01-2016, 12:57 AM
Dean Austin and David Wright.

How neither played for England still defies belief...

NickinOx
23-01-2016, 01:02 AM
Kenny Sansom was my favourite when I was a kid. I know, he's a left back, but still...

Two of England's best left backs played for Palace. That's something to be proud of.

lee_cpfc
23-01-2016, 01:44 AM
Clyne was and should be in the best right full backs that has ever played for this club, stepping up and performing above and beyond expectations and showing maturity beyond his years consistently puts him ahead of any academy product we've produced in the last twenty years and the fact that he has gone on and played for England is a massive feat

Ruskin Old Boy
23-01-2016, 07:53 AM
John Sewell

tony 1947
23-01-2016, 08:07 AM
Ruskin just beat me to saying John Sewell. A magnificent captain when we were promoted.
Also versatile and long serving players Terry Long and David Payne were good in that position.

cpfc4evandeva
23-01-2016, 08:14 AM
Dean Austin and David Wright.

How neither played for England still defies belief...

DW did a job once he was moved to midfield clogger. He was too slow to be a full back by the time we had him.

Kylie_Tracey
23-01-2016, 12:43 PM
Until Clyne, I always thought that RB was the one position where Palace never had a genuine star and never had a real duffer.

Humphrey was quality

Selhurst Celtic
23-01-2016, 01:18 PM
Jamie Smith


I liked him a lot. Not just for his tackle on Zamora in the cup at Spurs away, but for his occasional swashbuckling displays. And he'd tackle anything.
The first time I noticed him was at home vs Wolves when he got properly noised up by either Hopkins or some other ginger after we scored at the Holmesdale end.

jjeagle
23-01-2016, 01:21 PM
I liked him a lot. Not just for his tackle on Zamora in the cup at Spurs away, but for his occasional swashbuckling displays. And he'd tackle anything.
The first time I noticed him was at home vs Wolves when he got properly noised up by either Hopkins or some other ginger after we scored at the Holmesdale end.

I am pretty sure it was Gareth Davis. Sure there was a photo of it.

nibalama
23-01-2016, 01:22 PM
I liked him a lot. Not just for his tackle on Zamora in the cup at Spurs away, but for his occasional swashbuckling displays. And he'd tackle anything.
The first time I noticed him was at home vs Wolves when he got properly noised up by either Hopkins or some other ginger after we scored at the Holmesdale end.

It was Gareth Davies. Smith got some close face-to-face verbals from Gareth after Freedman scored in the play-off semis.

Selhurst Celtic
23-01-2016, 01:25 PM
Cheers lads. Davies sounds correct.

WLYWLYAWYPWF
23-01-2016, 01:27 PM
I liked him a lot. Not just for his tackle on Zamora in the cup at Spurs away, but for his occasional swashbuckling displays. And he'd tackle anything.
The first time I noticed him was at home vs Wolves when he got properly noised up by either Hopkins or some other ginger after we scored at the Holmesdale end.

I remember that. I liked Davies. He liked a bit of needle. I remember him having it with Lee Bowyer at Charlton as well. Smith had just scored a tidy goal for Wolves at the other end in the play off game, which until that offside 3rd for us looked like a very important goal for them. It looked like ginger put him in his place however.

Selhurst Celtic
23-01-2016, 01:31 PM
Kick Bowyer day was one of the greatest events at Selhurst.

EmmerGreenEagle
23-01-2016, 02:05 PM
I remember David Hopkin kicking Bowyer up into the air too. Good old days

WLYWLYAWYPWF
23-01-2016, 02:24 PM
I remember David Hopkin kicking Bowyer up into the air too. Good old days

He was then in Bowyers face doing that baby thing with his lips when he reacted.:D

Latvian Eagle
23-01-2016, 07:22 PM
No mentions for Curtis Fleming. :eek: Shocking!

dim
23-01-2016, 08:25 PM
Stebbing.

Harry Bassett
23-01-2016, 08:34 PM
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Just like Jack Edwards in the late fifties eh. Sorry showing my age now.

What about Arthur Hudgell and Ron George?

davech
24-01-2016, 01:04 AM
I remember David Hopkin kicking Bowyer up into the air too. Good old days

Kick Bowyer was a very popular pastime.

It was similar in the away leg of the playoff at the Clowns. We seemed to get away with everything that day. Bowyer even chased after the referee crying at one point, which had us all in fits of laughter.

Served the little runt right for over-celebrating the first-ever goal in the new Holmesdale end (even if was admittedly quite a good one).

Selhurst Celtic
24-01-2016, 10:41 AM
He hoisted up his shirt to show the stud marks on his torso and the ref just waved him away.

DARZET EAGLE
24-01-2016, 12:34 PM
What about Arthur Hudgell and Ron George?

I bow to your knowledge Sir, never saw the play but I'll take you word for it.

Harry Bassett
24-01-2016, 12:46 PM
I bow to your knowledge Sir, never saw the play but I'll take you word for it.

We sold Arthur Hudgell to Sunderland for what was then a record for a full back, about 8000..he went on to play for them for many years.

davech
24-01-2016, 12:52 PM
John Sewell used to be my favourite when I was young. I would like to think that 'Shovel' was an affectionate nickname, but I am still not so sure. A sure and steady penalty-taker :D (if we ever got them, which was rare), like the crucial one v Pompey back in '69 - how many times did that bobble??

He was always solid if unspectacular, and never booked in his career - amazing for a defender. (His one and only booking, in his last game I believe, was later rescinded)

DARZET EAGLE
24-01-2016, 12:55 PM
We sold Arthur Hudgell to Sunderland for what was then a record for a full back, about 8000..he went on to play for them for many years.

Ah full backs, we had great characters in the late fifties, more destroyers than wing backs. Chopper Greenwood, Alfie Noakes. Bert Howe.......

Jim Cannon
24-01-2016, 01:04 PM
It was Gareth Davies. Smith got some close face-to-face verbals from Gareth after Freedman scored in the play-off semis.

Funny that Smith joined us after as well

stevek
25-01-2016, 04:41 PM
Funny that Smith joined us after as well

With Freedman going the other way.

Braders
25-01-2016, 04:56 PM
Boyce and Fleming were both quality! Obviously Clyne was great to watch too. Has anyone ever took him apart?

LONDONMAN
25-01-2016, 05:05 PM
Hinshelwood was great. Funny to think he was one of those young players that used to get plenty of stick (think of people like Stebbing, Brooks etc) when he started as a forward.

He gradually developed into a great replacement for Peter Wall (who was also a very decent player for us and played for Shankly at Liverpool before joining us) read the game very well was a tenacious tackler.

It says all you need to know that our defence of Hinshelwood, Cannon, Gilbert and Sansom (with occasional appearances by Terry Fenwick and Tony Hazell(!)) formed probably our best ever defensive partnership, letting in only 25 goals in the 1978/79 season when we won the Division Two Championship.

He would weigh in with the occasional memorable goal too. Liverpool at home in the Cup in 1977 (forty yarder past Ray Clemence at the Whitehorse End!) and a last minute equalizer at Leicester in 1979, which proved to be a vital point on our way to the title.

Went on to to do well with Oxford as they made their way up the League in the early 80's.

One thing I remember about players like Hinshelwood and Sansom was the old sliding tackle, where they would lunge in from yards away and hook the ball clear of a prospective opposition attacker.

Nowadays, it would probably result in an instant red, wether they made contact or not.

Back in the day, it was very much part of the game and few did it better than Kenny and Paul, or Doris, as he was affectionately known by the fans for his curly blond hair.

Apparently he liked a pint or two and was called Fish, by the players.

LONDONMAN
25-01-2016, 05:12 PM
Kick Bowyer was a very popular pastime.

It was similar in the away leg of the playoff at the Clowns. We seemed to get away with everything that day. Bowyer even chased after the referee crying at one point, which had us all in fits of laughter.

Served the little runt right for over-celebrating the first-ever goal in the new Holmesdale end (even if was admittedly quite a good one).

Do you remember when the streaker ran on to the pitch in the Play Off match in 1996 and Darren Pitcher was kicking the crap out of Bowyer whilst it was all happening?!!

Don't think there is any footage, but it must be in one of the top ten funniest things to happen during a match I've seen to date!

Danny1
25-01-2016, 08:11 PM
Bill Roffey in the early 70's

davech
25-01-2016, 08:33 PM
Do you remember when the streaker ran on to the pitch in the Play Off match in 1996 and Darren Pitcher was kicking the crap out of Bowyer whilst it was all happening?!!

Don't think there is any footage, but it must be in one of the top ten funniest things to happen during a match I've seen to date!

I'd forgotten until you reminded me. :D. Never a dull moment at the Palace (well, rarely!)

big bad John
14-02-2016, 01:12 AM
Paddy Mulligan. who could forget his two goals against Utd. Unfortunatley he's been quoted as saying he didn't enjoy his time at Palace.

DARZET EAGLE
14-02-2016, 12:13 PM
Paddy Mulligan. who could forget his two goals against Utd. Unfortunatley he's been quoted as saying he didn't enjoy his time at Palace.

We did though, he was terrific full back who was an original wing back.

Keenstonian
15-02-2016, 07:45 PM
Johnny McNichol

DARZET EAGLE
16-02-2016, 11:05 PM
Now you're talking, but he was a better creative midfielder and great Captain, following his signing from Chelsea in 1957/58. Scored on his debut against Port Vale....ah those were the days, 2 Bob to get in and players on about 10 per week.

Keenstonian
17-02-2016, 05:34 PM
Not sure if my memory blurs with age but George Petchey at right back now and then too. Normally mdfielder but okay at RB too.

Two bob to get in! There's posh for you.

What position did Roy Lunnis play?

DARZET EAGLE
17-02-2016, 06:23 PM
Not sure if my memory blurs with age but George Petchey at right back now and then too. Normally mdfielder but okay at RB too.

Two bob to get in! There's posh for you.

What position did Roy Lunnis play?

Probably 6p actually, but surely not!

Roy Lunniss, now there's a player I had completely forgotten about. He was a big defender signed from Carshalton in 1960 and may have been a right back. He scored 1 goal in 27 appearances before being sold to Portsmouth in 1963. I don't recall George (he of the crunching tackle) Petchey ever playing at right back, but he was a tidy midfielder with an eye for a pass, and one time Captain.

cranesparkeagle
17-02-2016, 06:34 PM
Clyne is the best of them But I would put in a word for Humphrey, who played for us in the top flight when he was very much a veteran and rarely got skinned. In the modern era where you tackle cleanly and stay on your feet Humphrey's style would be perfect. On the downside he didnt have a lot of flair

DARZET EAGLE
17-02-2016, 06:44 PM
Clyne is the best of them But I would put in a word for Humphrey, who played for us in the top flight when he was very much a veteran and rarely got skinned. In the modern era where you tackle cleanly and stay on your feet Humphrey's style would be perfect. On the downside he didnt have a lot of flair

I agree Humphrey and also John Sewell were very underated.

John Humphrey started at Wolves and over 6 years made 149 appearances'

DARZET EAGLE
17-02-2016, 06:49 PM
I agree Humphrey and also John Sewell were very underated.

John Humphrey started at Wolves and over 6 years made 149 appearances'

I meant to add that he then moved to Charlton in 1985, making a further 194 appearances, before making the switch to Palace five years later staying until 1995 appearing 160 times. One of his hobbies is magic, so obviously he pulled a few rabbits out of the hat keeping a few wingers at bay.

big bad John
19-02-2016, 05:06 AM
John Sewell

A little ode I wrote for the Shove a few years ago. Awefully civilised comes from the antique shop he owned in LA.



JOHN ( the shovel ) SEWELL. an awfully civilised defender.

He resembled a middle-aged bank manager,
not a team captain from that era,
but to all of Crystal Palace fans,
he was our Bobby Moore or Shearer.

His name was John ( the shovel ) Sewell,
and his position was right back,
a crisp and tidy tackler,
who often moved up in attack.

Signed from neighbours Charlton,
for an Eleven Thousand fee,
his debut was v Bristol Rovers,
in October 63.

The fans they called him 'Shovel,'
it was shouted with devotion,
and his finest moment came in 69,
when he led us to promotion.

He was only ever booked once,
when he accidentally clipped a heel,
but Bert Head wrote in for leniency,
and the F.A agreed to his appeal.

However ----- it was his equalizing goal v Leeds,
that the Palace hordes remember,
as he latched onto a pass from Scott,
who was filling in for Kember.

" HOOF IT IN THERE, " screamed the crowd,
as in the box he sent her,
and if Shove had been Brazilian,
you'd have sworn to God he'd bent her.

The ball hung lazily in the air,
and took a little swerve,
and poor Gary Sprake in the United goal
seemed to lose his nerve.
First he thought to punch it,
then he went to catch,
and he made a total cock up,
of the last kick of the match.

As the ball dropped slowly in the net,
Selhurst Park let out a roar,
and ' the Shovels' name was carved out,
forever in folklore.

But ' the Shovel' was getting older,
and he was struggling with the pace,
and sometimes he got the run-around,
from young wingers he would face.
But his contribution to the Palace cause,
was still recognised as huge,
and the Board gave him a send off,
with a Testimonial match v Bruges.

He was transferred onto Orient,
where he enjoyed an Eight month stay,
then he joined a Euro exodus,
bound for the U.S.A.
He could have joined the Cosmos,
or the Philadelphia Fury,
but instead he headed West,
to St Louis in Missouri.
He became the STARS player manager,
and won coach of the year,
and he became a living legend,
in the City famed for beer.

John got used to all the razzmatazz,
cheer girls and astro turf,
and he followed with the franchise,
when they became California Surf.

He's now living somewhere near L.A.
that town of dudes and geeks,
and last I heard he was doing well,
with a business in antiques.
The business name is 'AWFULLY CIVILISED',
a name that fits John like a shoe,
cos that's exactly what he was,
OUR GALLANT NUMBER TWO.


JOHN J O'CONNOR AUG 5 2005

DARZET EAGLE
19-02-2016, 05:47 PM
A little ode I wrote for the Shove a few years ago. Awefully civilised comes from the antique shop he owned in LA.



JOHN ( the shovel ) SEWELL. an awfully civilised defender.

He resembled a middle-aged bank manager,
not a team captain from that era,
but to all of Crystal Palace fans,
he was our Bobby Moore or Shearer.

His name was John ( the shovel ) Sewell,
and his position was right back,
a crisp and tidy tackler,
who often moved up in attack.

Signed from neighbours Charlton,
for an Eleven Thousand fee,
his debut was v Bristol Rovers,
in October 63.

The fans they called him 'Shovel,'
it was shouted with devotion,
and his finest moment came in 69,
when he led us to promotion.

He was only ever booked once,
when he accidentally clipped a heel,
but Bert Head wrote in for leniency,
and the F.A agreed to his appeal.

However ----- it was his equalizing goal v Leeds,
that the Palace hordes remember,
as he latched onto a pass from Scott,
who was filling in for Kember.

" HOOF IT IN THERE, " screamed the crowd,
as in the box he sent her,
and if Shove had been Brazilian,
you'd have sworn to God he'd bent her.

The ball hung lazily in the air,
and took a little swerve,
and poor Gary Sprake in the United goal
seemed to lose his nerve.
First he thought to punch it,
then he went to catch,
and he made a total cock up,
of the last kick of the match.

As the ball dropped slowly in the net,
Selhurst Park let out a roar,
and ' the Shovels' name was carved out,
forever in folklore.

But ' the Shovel' was getting older,
and he was struggling with the pace,
and sometimes he got the run-around,
from young wingers he would face.
But his contribution to the Palace cause,
was still recognised as huge,
and the Board gave him a send off,
with a Testimonial match v Bruges.

He was transferred onto Orient,
where he enjoyed an Eight month stay,
then he joined a Euro exodus,
bound for the U.S.A.
He could have joined the Cosmos,
or the Philadelphia Fury,
but instead he headed West,
to St Louis in Missouri.
He became the STARS player manager,
and won coach of the year,
and he became a living legend,
in the City famed for beer.

John got used to all the razzmatazz,
cheer girls and astro turf,
and he followed with the franchise,
when they became California Surf.

He's now living somewhere near L.A.
that town of dudes and geeks,
and last I heard he was doing well,
with a business in antiques.
The business name is 'AWFULLY CIVILISED',
a name that fits John like a shoe,
cos that's exactly what he was,
OUR GALLANT NUMBER TWO.


JOHN J O'CONNOR AUG 5 2005

Brilliant, fantastic, I hadn't seen that.:lux::lux: