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CPFC2010ANDON
04-02-2016, 05:56 PM
Now, I remember these two quite well. Sun didn't play much as we went down the path of admin and he went off to Manchester City where he stayed for a few years and played well.

Fan, on the otherhand, stayed with us and became a cult hero. A defender who put himself on the line, and he chipped in with goals too - even playing as a CF a few times.

Question I have, because I can't remember, is whether they played in the Premier League with us under Venables before we went down. I can't quite remember.

We are the ones who signed the first Chinese players, but were we the first to play them in the Premier League, or is it right what I have read that Sun played in the Prem first with Manchester City?

David of Kent
04-02-2016, 05:57 PM
TV wasn't our manager when we were in the Premier League so that bit wouldn't be correct

Naboo
04-02-2016, 06:05 PM
Neither of them played in the premier league for us and venables wasn't our manager in the premier league

ElwissAtMemphis
04-02-2016, 06:17 PM
We are the ones who signed the first Chinese players...

Maybe the first to sign players from Chinese clubs but not the first ethnic Chinese to play in England. I can remember Sammy Chung managing Wolves in the 70's and he played League football beforehand. There's been a few others if you Google it.

CPFC2010ANDON
04-02-2016, 06:17 PM
I didn't think so either. I recall us being relegated. Then it all unravelling. Just trying to remember when FZ and SJ joined, but my question is answered now because it was after we were relegated. My mind went blank.

David of Kent
04-02-2016, 06:21 PM
Maybe the first to sign players from Chinese clubs but not the first ethnic Chinese to play in England. I can remember Sammy Chung managing Wolves in the 70's and he played League football beforehand. There's been a few others if you Google it.

Sammy Chung was from Berkshire!

I know, I know......he was half Chinese though

Grim Reaper
04-02-2016, 06:43 PM
They were introduced to the Palace crowd on the pitch for the Port Vale game in September 98 and Palace duly lapped up all the positive vibes and lost 1-0. :clown::eek:

Palace were then on telly v Sheff Utd two weeks later and Fan was definitely playing in that game. It was a deal at the time because it was reported 100m Chinese (from their billion population) were watching the game.

One of those classic conversations where you could make the argument that Palace overnight were the number one supported club in the world.

CedarEagle
04-02-2016, 07:19 PM
It was surely no coincidence that the pre-match firework displays started soon after !

Great memories.

Remember Fan punching a Nottm Forest defender after a goalmouth scrap at a corner. A proper punch too. I could be wrong but I think it wasn't spotted by ref. Even the ref who failed send Dawson off at WBA would have sent him off.

pardew's shorts
04-02-2016, 07:23 PM
Sun is one of a select few players in the English Football Hall of Fame.

Inducted at the National Football Museum on the same day that the Chinese President paid a visit with David Cameron.

What are the chances?!

Jim Cannon
05-02-2016, 08:41 AM
Anyone remember how Sun in particular used to go round with an entourage that looked like something out of reservoir dogs? He had not cottoned on to the fact he probably needed it back home due to being very famous but over here could have easily nipped down to sainsburys without too much hassle.

switchboard
05-02-2016, 09:33 AM
Palace were then on telly v Sheff Utd two weeks later and Fan was definitely playing in that game. It was a deal at the time because it was reported 100m Chinese (from their billion population) were watching the game.

Has anyone ever found any evidence of this? I always remember the rumours and that for some time we held the most watched sporting/football game in history?

stevek
05-02-2016, 02:36 PM
Now, I remember these two quite well. Sun didn't play much as we went down the path of admin and he went off to Manchester City where he stayed for a few years and played well.


Sun went back to China before joining City.

stevek
05-02-2016, 02:40 PM
It was surely no coincidence that the pre-match firework displays started soon after !

Great memories.

Remember Fan punching a Nottm Forest defender after a goalmouth scrap at a corner. A proper punch too. I could be wrong but I think it wasn't spotted by ref. Even the ref who failed send Dawson off at WBA would have sent him off.

It was Dave Beasant he punched, and it wasn't a corner. We'd just been given a last minute penalty - which shouldn't have been because the foul was outside the box. Beasant was sent off for the foul; but there was a general melee and Fan punched him. Had we scored the penalty it would have got us a point (having been 3-0 down or something like that). However, the sub keeper saved it.

Pub Idol
05-02-2016, 03:46 PM
It was Dave Beasant he punched, and it wasn't a corner. We'd just been given a last minute penalty - which shouldn't have been because the foul was outside the box. Beasant was sent off for the foul; but there was a general melee and Fan punched him. Had we scored the penalty it would have got us a point (having been 3-0 down or something like that). However, the sub keeper saved it.

Was a good game.

Who missed the Pen? Clinton maybe?

stevek
05-02-2016, 04:32 PM
Was a good game.

Who missed the Pen? Clinton maybe?

I'm really guessing now, but Julian Gray? And was it twice taken, or am I making things up now?

Pub Idol
05-02-2016, 04:41 PM
I'm really guessing now, but Julian Gray? And was it twice taken, or am I making things up now?

Yes!

Did he score first time and everyone went nuts then he missed the re-take.

Was gutting I recall that much.

Grim Reaper
05-02-2016, 09:39 PM
The keeper that saved it was a young Barry Roche, the same keeper I believe who scored in the 94th minute to rescue a point for his team just three days ago.

What is it about him and last minute heroics!!??

Was a great match. Quite shocked we didn't get a point because even as a early as Tommy Black making it 1-3, I was convinced we would win. We bombarded them in that 2nd half

Crofty
05-02-2016, 09:41 PM
Two Wongs don't make a Wright.

Grim Reaper
05-02-2016, 09:42 PM
Funniest Sun moment of course was when he got sent off at Bradford.

He accepted his fate and marched off but the ref kept blocking him. Poor Sun was confused. Most people could understand what was happening but poor Sun was getting more animated and remonstrating with the ref.

He was walking towards the dressing room in the corner of the pitch like it was at Selhurst but at Bradford's ground the dressing rooms were level with the half way line and the ref was simply trying to turn him in the right direction.

Annoying but funny at the same time.

Jim Cannon
05-02-2016, 09:45 PM
Fan pushing the ref (QPR?) was another classic

Mictor Voses
05-02-2016, 09:45 PM
Was a good game.

Who missed the Pen? Clinton maybe?

Julian Gray. Scored it first time round hammering it in the bottom right corner then tried to place it in the left hand corner and missed it.

Chobham Eagle
05-02-2016, 10:19 PM
Fan pushing the ref (QPR?) was another classic

Fan hits the sh1t, as we said at the time.

DARZET EAGLE
05-02-2016, 10:45 PM
Fan hits the sh1t, as we said at the time.:eek::D

bestperch
07-02-2016, 08:36 PM
Sure they both made their debut in a 3-0 league cup defeat against a very physical Bury side which was just before the Sheffield Utd game. They both looked shocked by the intensity of the game but then so did the rest of our side as it was a period when we were very good at Selhurst but getting turned over in most of our away games.

Levski
07-02-2016, 09:02 PM
It was Dave Beasant he punched, and it wasn't a corner. We'd just been given a last minute penalty - which shouldn't have been because the foul was outside the box. Beasant was sent off for the foul; but there was a general melee and Fan punched him. Had we scored the penalty it would have got us a point (having been 3-0 down or something like that). However, the sub keeper saved it.

Beasant went absolutely mental because it was clearly outside the box and there seemed to be a bit of delayed-reaction playacting by Fan also, who then seems to poke him in the face when Beasant confronts him. Totally bizarre incident, then the penalties. Crazy stuff!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nv8CmYkY9Rk

6 min, 32.
God, some of our defending that season.... :eek:

Chobham Eagle
08-02-2016, 01:09 AM
Sure they both made their debut in a 3-0 league cup defeat against a very physical Bury side which was just before the Sheffield Utd game. They both looked shocked by the intensity of the game but then so did the rest of our side as it was a period when we were very good at Selhurst but getting turned over in most of our away games.

I think that's right. I was at that League Cup match at Bury and I also remember both of them looking rather bemused at the game's intensity. I also remember Sun being carried off on a stretcher with a very strange look on his face as he was carried past the small knot of away fans.

Vince Hilaire's Afro
08-02-2016, 04:15 AM
Tragic that we lost Sun Jihai due to a crazy fan refusing to teach him American English, and Fan went back to China due to concerns over baby formula supplies.

gold76
09-09-2017, 07:27 AM
Great interview with Fan on the palace website, with Chris Grierson, talking about his career and love for CPFC, comes across really well, top fella.

JJ
09-09-2017, 10:21 AM
Great interview with Fan on the palace website, with Chris Grierson, talking about his career and love for CPFC, comes across really well, top fella.

Yep - good interview.

west country boy
09-09-2017, 11:06 AM
Tragic that we lost Sun Jihai due to a crazy fan refusing to teach him American English, and Fan went back to China due to concerns over baby formula supplies.(Very belated) :supergrin:

The OP is a wanker.

CP Satellite
09-09-2017, 01:12 PM
Loved the interview with Fan, he seemed genuinely fond of his association with Palace and his memories of the players and supporters.

I seem to remember he was hailed as one of the most popular players amongst Chinese fans at the time, never sure if that was true, but it would be great if Palace could take him up on his offer to help the club in some way - I wonder how close we came to selling 500,000 of the all red Palace adidas shirts it was claimed back in 1998?!

charltonhater
14-09-2017, 07:17 PM
Loved the interview with Fan, he seemed genuinely fond of his association with Palace and his memories of the players and supporters.

I seem to remember he was hailed as one of the most popular players amongst Chinese fans at the time, never sure if that was true, but it would be great if Palace could take him up on his offer to help the club in some way - I wonder how close we came to selling 500,000 of the all red Palace adidas shirts it was claimed back in 1998?!

At least a couple I've times I spotted Chinese looking tourists wearing the current Palace shirt with Zhiyi as the name on the back in the Arthur Wait.

Never made the connection between that horrific all red charltonesque shirt and having Chinese players until just now. So obvious now you've pointed it out!

Canute
14-09-2017, 08:03 PM
Genuine character, it seems and proud to have been a part of the Palace history. His English was not the best when he arrived. Remember one home game, waiting for the players at the car park. I greeted Fan and didn't know what to say. "All the best from a Danish Fan", was what came out. He did not get me at all. Later, saying hello to Dougie, it was me who came up short :)

Maidstoned Eagle
14-09-2017, 09:34 PM
Loved the interview with Fan, he seemed genuinely fond of his association with Palace and his memories of the players and supporters.

I seem to remember he was hailed as one of the most popular players amongst Chinese fans at the time, never sure if that was true, but it would be great if Palace could take him up on his offer to help the club in some way - I wonder how close we came to selling 500,000 of the all red Palace adidas shirts it was claimed back in 1998?!

I went to Shanghai whilst Fan Zhiyi was with us. First thing I saw was a huge billboard with him on advertising a building development, he was also on a Pepsi.advert alongside Beckham and Roberto Carlos. That one was everywhere, sides of buses, on buildings etc.

Thing is, no one really knew he played for Palace, just that he eas the national team captain.

Here's the thread. http://www.cpfc.org/forums/showthread.php?t=11723&highlight=A+Maidstoned+Eagle+in+Shanghai

Farnboro' Eagle
14-09-2017, 09:53 PM
I went to Shanghai whilst Fan Zhiyi was with us. First thing I saw was a huge billboard with him on advertising a building development, he was also on a Pepsi.advert alongside Beckham and Roberto Carlos. That one was everywhere, sides of buses, on buildings etc.

Thing is, no one really knew he played for Palace, just that he eas the national team captain.

Here's the thread. http://www.cpfc.org/forums/showthread.php?t=11723&highlight=A+Maidstoned+Eagle+in+Shanghai

Wow, some old names, and some sadly no longer with us, on that thread. "Good old days" of the BBS

LLCOOLSTEVE
15-09-2017, 02:18 AM
when they both joined I was working at the clubs training ground and my mum was managing the hotel that the club put them (and many new players) up at while they found their feet. They were great guys, Ive still got a China national shirt that Fan signed and gave to us and he and his wife Lee became good friends during their time here, in fact Lee later worked part time for me elsewhere. Rob Fox who also worked at the hotel (he of Selhurst sound a little while later) and my mum took Fan and Sun to Brighton to experience the English seaside..... the rivalry wasnt quite as alive during those days due to Brightons demise but they had a lovely day out!

The move was particularly hard for Sun as he missed his family and he was a very quiet guy; I seem to rememeber his gf at the time worked for Coke or something and she travelled a fair amount. As a youngster it was a really awesome experience to get to know them both, particularly Fan who was an absolute megastar back home but he was so so down to earth.