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prizesucker
15-03-2016, 11:05 AM
Given that our place in the Semi final of this year's FA Cup has been confirmed, this year will join the historical folklore of 1976, 1990 and 1995 but it seems that fans seem to think more favourable towards FA Cup runs than league cup runs.

Why is that? Is it Glamour? Is it Prestige? Is it perception?

Birmingham and Swansea fans will happily tell you that winning the League Cup was a special highlight in their (recent) history, i'm sure that if we had lifted that trophy, we would be waxing lyrical about how wonderful it was and it heightened the profile/brand of the club etc.

We were a penalty shoot out away from the final in 2012 yet that team nor that "run" are talked about with any fondness apart from that rocket from Ambrose at Old Trafford (which wasn't even the winning goal on the night). Joniesta's first goal for the club versus Wigan & Calvin Andrew getting the winner versus M'boro in the earlier rounds have been lost to history.
Likewise, the "run" in 1994/95 is barely spoken about, only been beaten by the eventual winners in Liverpool. Those exciting and emphatic results against Villa and Manchester City felt special at the time but are not held in the same regard as their FA Cup counterparts.

Just curious really.

Selhurst Celtic
15-03-2016, 11:10 AM
I suspect it's due to being the ugly sister to the FA Cup. That being said, I'd love to win it.

JAS78
15-03-2016, 01:35 PM
Was gutted we threw it away at Cardiff in 2012, never a better chance. Even if we'd lost the final would have been great to have got to both major finals, not too many clubs have done that.

Sleeping Giant
15-03-2016, 05:14 PM
Is that 8 major semis now since 1976? You have to say we are due a final. A League one definately but if it's an FA one, wow. One every five years is pretty decent really.
Anyway the FA Cup now is like the League Cup used to be in the 80's, definately a major trophy but with the big sides not really playing full sides in the early stages.

Pub Idol
15-03-2016, 05:23 PM
The run in 2001 was pretty good up until the second leg of the semi.

Beating Tranmere on pens, Sunderland with a great Clinton goal and Rubins against the scousers. Great memories.

Pub Idol
15-03-2016, 05:24 PM
In 93 beating Chelsea and Liverpool with Grant Watts scoring in both.

Far East Eagle
16-03-2016, 04:47 AM
The run in 2001 was pretty good up until the second leg of the semi.

Beating Tranmere on pens, Sunderland with a great Clinton goal and Rubins against the scousers. Great memories.

hammering leicester 3-0 was also lovely

JJ
16-03-2016, 05:04 AM
hammering leicester 3-0 was also lovely

Indeed - crackers from Andrejs Rubins and Steve Thomson.

Skin Up
16-03-2016, 05:35 AM
94/95 sticks in the memory because we were quite dull in the league at times but managed to turn on two great performances against Villa (4-1) and Citeh (4-0).

Dorking .Eagle
16-03-2016, 06:20 AM
The League Cup, aside from being the 'second' cup has always had an inferior format as well.

Rounds 1 and 2 have in the past been 2 legged - okay that don't do that now but unneccesarily hard work for such pitiful crowds at such a distance from Wembley.

The fact that those rounds are regionalised (acknowledgement that it ain'[t worth the journey across the whole country), and seeded (desperately hoping to 'fix' a 'giantkilling' or two despite there being almost no 'giants' in those rounds)

That the games are all midweek bar the final. Wheras the FA Cup is not only mainly weekends, but even has league fixture free weekends for it at the stages where most teams come in.

That (not now but recently) even being runner up in the FA Cup often meant Europe.

That the FA Cup goes back to the 1870s

The non league aspect to the FA Cup

Bloody two legged semi Finals in the league cup - just get a neutral ground (doesn't have to be Wembley) and people might be more excited than a tie split apart by a week or two!

That said, Palace fans ain't fussy and would be more than happy winning the League Cup. The Cardiff semi was the biggest missed chance (in terms of cups for Palace) for a generation.

leicester1
18-03-2016, 06:35 PM
We've won the League cup twice in recent times....both were absolutely amazing and set us up for 2 European trips.....but....the fa cups the one that elludes us....and its one that Coventry have won and in bragging rights never let us forget it.

rbarmy
18-03-2016, 07:10 PM
Let's not forget the ZDS cup - the flower of cup trophies

Pistol Knight
18-03-2016, 09:47 PM
I would take the ZDS again

dweedman
18-03-2016, 10:27 PM
I would take the ZDS again

Will be a while before we can win that one again.

Dorking .Eagle
18-03-2016, 10:57 PM
I would take the ZDS again

We never gave it back, it's still in the cabinet!

Neil the Eagle
19-03-2016, 09:52 AM
We never gave it back, it's still in the cabinet!

We weren't the last winners of it - Forest were. Ours is a replica.

big bad John
21-03-2016, 03:29 AM
Was gutted we threw it away at Cardiff in 2012, never a better chance. Even if we'd lost the final would have been great to have got to both major finals, not too many clubs have done that.


Only about 90% of Premiership teams and probably around half the teams currently in the championship

Swoonara
21-03-2016, 07:11 AM
We weren't the last winners of it - Forest were. Ours is a replica.

So they think!!!:D