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dbutler
10-06-2016, 03:04 PM
Any trouble yet ? Heard there was a boat load of refugees on the River Seine, looking to give it big time.......

Worksop Palace
10-06-2016, 03:05 PM
Kicking of what in France ?

dbutler
10-06-2016, 03:08 PM
Humour...

chatham_eagle
10-06-2016, 04:28 PM
Le Vans Transite.

waddoneagle
10-06-2016, 04:44 PM
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13413143_1150694624960797_1881668366871888012_n.jp g?oh=5461ac827184d1a5d1ef345ce2a5d7e3&oe=57CA8D45

cpfc4evandeva
10-06-2016, 04:50 PM
Any trouble yet ? Heard there was a boat load of refugees on the River Seine, looking to give it big time.......

I heard they all got pushed in.

Insane.

BeaverWilly
10-06-2016, 05:08 PM
Nothing has kicked off yet. Starts at 8pm with France vs Romania

Eaglesmad123
10-06-2016, 05:25 PM
England fans yet again rioting with police.

Tony Montana
10-06-2016, 05:34 PM
Mate who is out there has told me it's currently going off out there again. more tear gas.

racehorse-80s
10-06-2016, 05:35 PM
Mate who is out there has told me it's currently going off out there again. more tear gas.

It will end in tears then .

Brett
10-06-2016, 05:36 PM
Not exactly a surprise that it's going off in Marseille. Bit dim to send us there with 1998 still relatively fresh in the mind.

Baffled Bob 2
10-06-2016, 05:47 PM
I'm in Marseille now. It is kicking off. Bloke from Kidderminster just dropped an ice cream. Terrible scenes. It's great here. Some knobs but mostly just having a good time

Worksop Palace
10-06-2016, 05:50 PM
I'm in Marseille now. It is kicking off. Bloke from Kidderminster just dropped an ice cream. Terrible scenes. It's great here. Some knobs but mostly just having a good time

Footage I saw from last night looked nasty.

eagle mart
10-06-2016, 05:50 PM
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eagle mart
10-06-2016, 05:50 PM
In '98 the press were paying locals to throw stuff at England fans. You'd think with Brexit they'd have something better to write about.

But the French use tear gas as standard, so it makes for dramatic viewing.

Worksop Palace
10-06-2016, 05:53 PM
Pissed up England fans in throwing bottles shocker

Baffled Bob 2
10-06-2016, 05:54 PM
Footage I saw from last night looked nasty.

I think that was outside the Queen Victoria pub. Went past it earlier in the day. As soon as I heard 3 divs singing that "No Surrender to the IRA" song I knew it was the place to avoid. Especially as there's an Irish pub next door.

Worksop Palace
10-06-2016, 05:57 PM
I think that was outside the Queen Victoria pub. Went past it earlier in the day. As soon as I heard 3 divs singing that "No Surrender to the IRA" song I knew it was the place to avoid. Especially as there's an Irish pub next door.

Yeah clever lads

Stay safe fella

old git
10-06-2016, 06:00 PM
Just saw some footage on sky. It looked like typical English fans at a domestic away match having a sing song and the riot police waded in.

Baffled Bob 2
10-06-2016, 06:02 PM
Oh and can someone tell Elgin we've just been interviewed by Russian Television. Keep an eye out for overweight middle aged man with gormless 20 year old son.

Les Butler
10-06-2016, 06:02 PM
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13413143_1150694624960797_1881668366871888012_n.jp g?oh=5461ac827184d1a5d1ef345ce2a5d7e3&oe=57CA8D45

Was that bloke in Coronation street ?

:D

eaglejez
10-06-2016, 06:07 PM
I'm in Marseille now. It is kicking off. Bloke from Kidderminster just dropped an ice cream. Terrible scenes. It's great here. Some knobs but mostly just having a good time

Flakey reporting

Worksop Palace
10-06-2016, 06:07 PM
Oh and can someone tell Elgin we've just been interviewed by Russian Television. Keep an eye out for overweight middle aged man with gormless 20 year old son.

:D

Worksop Palace
10-06-2016, 06:08 PM
Was that bloke in Coronation street ?

:D

Wants arresting for that fact alone

Granville
10-06-2016, 06:14 PM
I'm in Marseille now. It is kicking off. Bloke from Kidderminster just dropped an ice cream. Terrible scenes. It's great here. Some knobs but mostly just having a good time

99 Problems

Les Butler
10-06-2016, 06:43 PM
Read a whole article then there was this at the end...Assistant Chief Constable Mark Roberts, who is leading British police's liaison effort, said: 'England supporters had been in Marseille yesterday without issue.

'At around midnight, there was a short confrontation where a group of approximately 70 local youths approached a pub where England fans had congregated.

the drexciyan
10-06-2016, 07:04 PM
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13413143_1150694624960797_1881668366871888012_n.jp g?oh=5461ac827184d1a5d1ef345ce2a5d7e3&oe=57CA8D45

If I had one guess where he was from it would be Northern Ireland. You can almost hear the accent from that picture.

OLD BASING EAGLE
10-06-2016, 07:15 PM
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13413143_1150694624960797_1881668366871888012_n.jp g?oh=5461ac827184d1a5d1ef345ce2a5d7e3&oe=57CA8D45

Is that Johnny Vegas.

TheMexicanHorse
10-06-2016, 07:17 PM
you could see the bbc foaming at the mouth earlier with the news that last night one england fan got arrested out of hundreds if not thousands.

Brett
10-06-2016, 07:20 PM
If I had one guess where he was from it would be Northern Ireland. You can almost hear the accent from that picture.

R larv you, Luz

elgin eagle
10-06-2016, 07:25 PM
Oh and can someone tell Elgin we've just been interviewed by Russian Television. Keep an eye out for overweight middle aged man with gormless 20 year old son.

What channel Bob? Hope you all have fun :)

Seagull-Eater_ Miss_Selhurst_ SE19_denizen
10-06-2016, 07:37 PM
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13413143_1150694624960797_1881668366871888012_n.jp g?oh=5461ac827184d1a5d1ef345ce2a5d7e3&oe=57CA8D45

to confirm he had English as a first language ( and was not an asylum seeker ) the french copper asked him to say ''How now, brown cow''.

Just been deported back to Syria

LLCOOLSTEVE
10-06-2016, 08:36 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/owenhumphreys1/status/741366337746931712

ebyeeckeagle
10-06-2016, 08:43 PM
Was that bloke in Coronation street ?

:D

Sure it was:D

Pidster
10-06-2016, 08:48 PM
99 Problems

Good work

Brett
10-06-2016, 08:56 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/owenhumphreys1/status/741366337746931712

No Surrender apologists have said there is no property damage (unless that's just a lively grill on the local meze).

old git
10-06-2016, 08:58 PM
I think the fans may have peaked to early.Two days of rioting before a ball is kicked?No way can they keep it up for the tournament.

SJ'sLoveMonkey
10-06-2016, 09:00 PM
Have they given a rousing rendition of one Bomber Harris yet?

evvo111
10-06-2016, 09:04 PM
I think the fans may have peaked to early.Two days of rioting before a ball is kicked?No way can they keep it up for the tournament.

I believe they have been using the ice buckets to tone their muscles for extra stamina as per Leicester. Slasher Bob said he felt rej, rgeve, rjuvuniat, like a new geezer after the treatment, not The Treatment a la Millwall but the ice treatment.

cpfc4evandeva
10-06-2016, 09:07 PM
No Surrender apologists have said there is no property damage (unless that's just a lively grill on the local meze).

I can't tell if that's some kind of fire or just flares. I think it's flares.

chatham_eagle
10-06-2016, 09:10 PM
The trousers or the nightclub?

orp pisshead1
10-06-2016, 09:13 PM
Flakey reporting

:)

eagle mart
10-06-2016, 09:20 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/owenhumphreys1/status/741366337746931712

Driving to his hotel? Yes sure... its so obvious. Journos have been wetting themselves about England playing in marseille again. They were paying locals to attack 'England fans' last time in 98.

It's a journo's wet dream.' Idyllic harbour'. The local north African population.. They love it. England fans in a bar, drinking get a flare thrown in by some youths. And wait to film the reaction.. This will be all over the Daily mail website with some ads for click bait. So people can feign their disgust.

The real scum are behind the cameras, there is nothing as fake as gutter journaiism "Just driving to my hotel in war torn marseille". Sure.

LLCOOLSTEVE
10-06-2016, 09:23 PM
Driving to his hotel? Yes sure... its so obvious. Journos have been wetting themselves about England playing in marseille again. They were paying locals to attack 'England fans' last time in 98.

It's a journo's wet dream.' Idyllic harbour'. The local north African population.. They love it. England fans in a bar, drinking get a flare thrown in by some youths. And wait to film the reaction.. This will be all over the Daily mail website with some ads for click bait. So people can feign their disgust.

The real scum are behind the cameras, there is nothing as fake as gutter journaiism "Just driving to my hotel in war torn marseille". Sure.


Oh all those other pictures and images of English thugs throwing bottles and flighting in a big open square proudly singing no surrender must also be fake

Can't believe anyone would defend it

anti-addick
10-06-2016, 09:23 PM
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13413143_1150694624960797_1881668366871888012_n.jp g?oh=5461ac827184d1a5d1ef345ce2a5d7e3&oe=57CA8D45

If I had one guess where he was from it would be Northern Ireland. You can almost hear the accent from that picture.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/nmfLS1hWO94/hqdefault.jpg

Timbo
10-06-2016, 09:31 PM
Driving to his hotel? Yes sure... its so obvious. Journos have been wetting themselves about England playing in marseille again. They were paying locals to attack 'England fans' last time in 98.

It's a journo's wet dream.' Idyllic harbour'. The local north African population.. They love it. England fans in a bar, drinking get a flare thrown in by some youths. And wait to film the reaction.. This will be all over the Daily mail website with some ads for click bait. So people can feign their disgust.

The real scum are behind the cameras, there is nothing as fake as gutter journaiism "Just driving to my hotel in war torn marseille". Sure.

I lived in Marseille for 3 years in the mid 80's before going out to the Caribbean. It was smartening up a lot by 1998, but is still a tough city

eagle mart
10-06-2016, 09:44 PM
Oh all those other pictures and images of English thugs throwing bottles and flighting in a big open square proudly singing no surrender must also be fake

Can't believe anyone would defend it

You love it Steve. Quite oviously. That footage was a set-up feigned as passing a war zone. For you to wet your pants over. What am I defending exactly? There will many dicks there as you can see on the news, its only across the channel.

You can't stand it, but love watching it.. you can't get enough. I'm embarrassed, but know what is genuine news and not forced.

I am not defending them. I am castigating our press, they want chairs flying, smashing glass and an England badge at all costs. That's their MO.

England V Russia (who have a far worse hooligan problem than we do) in marseille who have the worst far right ultra group in France. Every paper will have their man on the ground. There will be thousands and thousands there, mingling happily who won't even see a spot of bother. But that doesn't make the news.

eagle mart
10-06-2016, 09:47 PM
I lived in Marseille for 3 years in the mid 80's before going out to the Caribbean. It was smartening up a lot by 1998, but is still a tough city

I know someone from the area, who now lives in London. It's a tough place!

Les Butler
10-06-2016, 09:57 PM
You love it Steve. Quite oviously. That footage was a set-up feigned as passing a war zone. For you to wet your pants over. What am I defending exactly? There will many dicks there as you can see on the news, its only across the channel.

You can't stand it, but love watching it.. you can't get enough. I'm embarrassed, but know what is genuine news and not forced.

I am not defending them. I am castigating our press, they want chairs flying, smashing glass and an England badge at all costs. That's their MO.

England V Russia (who have a far worse hooligan problem than we do) in marseille who have the worst far right ultra group in France. Every paper will have their man on the ground. There will be thousands and thousands there, mingling happily who won't even see a spot of bother. But that doesn't make the news.

Yep we get set up like kippers every time...We are targets not only for the press but for others looking for it.....Yep as we have in our ranks at Palace some wankers but would you generalise and wet your knickers that all Palace supporters are dick heads because of a few Steve ?

Course not

Even the the copper that's over there said it was 30 locals coming in looking for it...What do you expect is going to happen ?

eagle mart
10-06-2016, 10:03 PM
Just trying to find out how my workmate is getting on. Four black guys who happily enjoyed Brazil, might find the marseille experience a little different. It'll be more like benidorm than Rio.

Timbo
10-06-2016, 10:05 PM
You love it Steve. Quite oviously. That footage was a set-up feigned as passing a war zone. For you to wet your pants over. What am I defending exactly? There will many dicks there as you can see on the news, its only across the channel.

You can't stand it, but love watching it.. you can't get enough. I'm embarrassed, but know what is genuine news and not forced.

I am not defending them. I am castigating our press, they want chairs flying, smashing glass and an England badge at all costs. That's their MO.

England V Russia (who have a far worse hooligan problem than we do) in marseille who have the worst far right ultra group in France. Every paper will have their man on the ground. There will be thousands and thousands there, mingling happily who won't even see a spot of bother. But that doesn't make the news.

I have no idea about any of this, but do either of you actually follow England overseas?

Les Butler
10-06-2016, 10:09 PM
England fan thrown into Marseilles harbour as football violence rages

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/england-fan-thrown-marseilles-harbour-8162327

http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article8161682.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/DEC10_English-football-fans.jpg

http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article8161681.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/DEC10_English-football-fans.jpg

Thats a lone English supporter getting beaten (orange shirt) then dumped into the harbour.

Even our police are defending the England supporters.

eaglejez
10-06-2016, 10:14 PM
England fan thrown into Marseilles harbour as football violence rages

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/england-fan-thrown-marseilles-harbour-8162327

http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article8161682.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/DEC10_English-football-fans.jpg

Thats a lone English supporter getting beaten (orange shirt).

Even our police are defending the England supporters.

That'll be splashed all over the papers tomorrow

eagle mart
10-06-2016, 10:16 PM
I have no idea about any of this, but do either of you actually follow England overseas?

Euro 2000 and 2004. I've seen what goes on. It really annoys me, and I also know I shouldn't get annoyed... TAK sold me a ticket for England Tunisia (marseille) in 1998. But sold it on...

chatham_eagle
11-06-2016, 12:23 AM
That'll be splashed all over the papers tomorrow

Clattenburg insists it was a dive.

Skin Up
11-06-2016, 01:04 AM
The England fans involved in previous disturbances in the 80s and 90s who are known to the police and subject to travel bans or monitoring at the games would all be in their fifties or sixties by now and are probably watching back in England, the pissed up England fans out there are probably a new generation of young blokes who are unknown to the police so they'll be allowed more freedom to move to different parts of town/pubs ect and fights are probably inevitable.

Louis
11-06-2016, 05:08 AM
England V Russia (who have a far worse hooligan problem than we do)
Maybe it's not one the Russians 'export' though?

(P.S. David Cameron on page 23 when he links a 'minority of England fans to the minority in the leave compaign')

Sir.S.C Remembered
11-06-2016, 06:59 AM
Driving to his hotel? Yes sure... its so obvious. Journos have been wetting themselves about England playing in marseille again. They were paying locals to attack 'England fans' last time in 98.

It's a journo's wet dream.' Idyllic harbour'. The local north African population.. They love it. England fans in a bar, drinking get a flare thrown in by some youths. And wait to film the reaction.. This will be all over the Daily mail website with some ads for click bait. So people can feign their disgust.

The real scum are behind the cameras, there is nothing as fake as gutter journaiism "Just driving to my hotel in war torn marseille". Sure.

Yes it is all a conspiracy and England fans are just the poor victims.

I know other fans cause trouble and get less attention about it but let us not kid ourselves, we have a significant element of our fans and wider population who have a drink fight culture. See it plenty in Spain too on holidays etc! And no I don't trust the media but that does not mean it is ALL lies.

biggus mickus
11-06-2016, 07:14 AM
England fans? Why?

anti-addick
11-06-2016, 07:31 AM
Here's my two penneth likely one sided snippet from Facebook pals.

The story behind it is that the England fans were singing outside the bar and the police patrolled round and told the fans to go inside and stop making too much noise, they then threatened them with gas and the batons which then got the fans angry and started smashing it up. The police then wanted to split the English fans up, but the fans don't want to be split up in the fear of the ultras who have already picked 3 lots of 2 English fans who were walking towards the bar. The fans want to be in numbers together so that they don't get picked off like this, the police want them to split up. Got a couple lads out there and they said its nothing like it's being reported.

New LP
11-06-2016, 08:57 AM
Why do people have to sing 'no surrender' when following England.

Anyone doing that should be dumped in the harbour.

LLCOOLSTEVE
11-06-2016, 09:13 AM
You love it Steve. Quite oviously. That footage was a set-up feigned as passing a war zone. For you to wet your pants over. What am I defending exactly? There will many dicks there as you can see on the news, its only across the channel.

You can't stand it, but love watching it.. you can't get enough. I'm embarrassed, but know what is genuine news and not forced.

I am not defending them. I am castigating our press, they want chairs flying, smashing glass and an England badge at all costs. That's their MO.

England V Russia (who have a far worse hooligan problem than we do) in marseille who have the worst far right ultra group in France. Every paper will have their man on the ground. There will be thousands and thousands there, mingling happily who won't even see a spot of bother. But that doesn't make the news.


Lol right

Yes quite obviously it was all a set up

Even the voices in some clips where they are shouting about ISIS and where are they, let's be having u etc are obviously voice overs

The poor lambs are all so innocent

Also all this about being paid by the press to attack the English etc, those guys are quite happy to stand there and throw chairs back, throw bottles, confront others, throw punches. Why not just walk away?! Why stay and get involved?! They love it, absolutely love the tear ups.

ExCroydon_CPFC
11-06-2016, 09:30 AM
England fan thrown into Marseilles harbour as football violence rages

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/england-fan-thrown-marseilles-harbour-8162327

http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article8161682.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/DEC10_English-football-fans.jpg

http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article8161681.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/DEC10_English-football-fans.jpg

Thats a lone English supporter getting beaten (orange shirt) then dumped into the harbour.

Even our police are defending the England supporters.

Typical French/Arab cowards picking on lone or small groups of fans.

And still some knicker wetting twats on here are blaming our fans for being attacked and beaten by violent locals,unbelievable.

orp pisshead1
11-06-2016, 09:34 AM
You love it Steve. Quite oviously. That footage was a set-up feigned as passing a war zone. For you to wet your pants over. What am I defending exactly? There will many dicks there as you can see on the news, its only across the channel.

You can't stand it, but love watching it.. you can't get enough. I'm embarrassed, but know what is genuine news and not forced.

I am not defending them. I am castigating our press, they want chairs flying, smashing glass and an England badge at all costs. That's their MO.

England V Russia (who have a far worse hooligan problem than we do) in marseille who have the worst far right ultra group in France. Every paper will have their man on the ground. There will be thousands and thousands there, mingling happily who won't even see a spot of bother. But that doesn't make the news.

Well said Mart:p.

orp pisshead1
11-06-2016, 09:37 AM
Just trying to find out how my workmate is getting on. Four black guys who happily enjoyed Brazil, might find the marseille experience a little different. It'll be more like benidorm than Rio.

Benidorm was mental even back in 94!:supergrin:.

orp pisshead1
11-06-2016, 09:39 AM
I have no idea about any of this, but do either of you actually follow England overseas?

All of what he has said is true including how many we'll have out there who are just genuine football fans. A mate of mine said the English , Welsh and NI lads are getting on ok :eek::p.

orp pisshead1
11-06-2016, 09:41 AM
Clattenburg insists it was a dive.

Marvellous:D.

elgin eagle
11-06-2016, 09:42 AM
TLEK0UZH4cs

orp pisshead1
11-06-2016, 09:42 AM
Maybe it's not one the Russians 'export' though?

(P.S. David Cameron on page 23 when he links a 'minority of England fans to the minority in the leave compaign')

So you haven't seen the Russians having a pop at our fans then?.

orp pisshead1
11-06-2016, 09:49 AM
Lol right

Yes quite obviously it was all a set up

Even the voices in some clips where they are shouting about ISIS and where are they, let's be having u etc are obviously voice overs

The poor lambs are all so innocent

Also all this about being paid by the press to attack the English etc, those guys are quite happy to stand there and throw chairs back, throw bottles, confront others, throw punches. Why not just walk away?! Why stay and get involved?! They love it, absolutely love the tear ups.

So we'll ignore the Bar owner, OUR police and official supporters association who've backed our fans in terms of not starting the trouble. They retaliated and yes in a sense it's wrong but what do you expect.

ebyeeckeagle
11-06-2016, 09:56 AM
Typical French/Arab cowards picking on lone or small groups of fans.

And still some knicker wetting twats on here are blaming our fans for being attacked and beaten by violent locals,unbelievable.

You are a prick.

LLCOOLSTEVE
11-06-2016, 09:57 AM
So we'll ignore the Bar owner, OUR police and official supporters association who've backed our fans in terms of not starting the trouble. They retaliated and yes in a sense it's wrong but what do you expect.

Those that want trouble will find it and get it, those that dont will not or will just walk away.

ebyeeckeagle
11-06-2016, 09:59 AM
Why do people have to sing 'no surrender' when following England.

Anyone doing that should be dumped in the harbour.

Quite. Every nation has wankers of one sortoranother.

For England, it's the wankers with their no surrender or WW2 songs.

orp pisshead1
11-06-2016, 10:02 AM
Those that want trouble will find it and get it, those that dont will not or will just walk away.

Agree Steve just saying i don't blame our fans defending them selfs and you have to ask why didn't the Police stop the locals attacking the pub?. Not rocket science is it.

eagle mart
11-06-2016, 10:13 AM
So we'll ignore the Bar owner, OUR police and official supporters association who've backed our fans in terms of not starting the trouble. They retaliated and yes in a sense it's wrong but what do you expect.

Don't worry about them They love the lazy narrative. "Thugs" etc. The only time they ever believe the daily mail.

I even read it's not really the Russians fault, as we exported apparently. :D I'm pretty sure neolithic man spread over europe from the continent. So that trumps that argument.

ExCroydon_CPFC
11-06-2016, 10:16 AM
Every nation has wankers of one sortoranother.

You said it mate :jerkit:

LLCOOLSTEVE
11-06-2016, 10:24 AM
Agree Steve just saying i don't blame our fans defending them selfs and you have to ask why didn't the Police stop the locals attacking the pub?. Not rocket science is it.

Of course, although many of the English over there shall be putting themselves in situations that attract trouble.

Defending yourself doesnt then mean that you join 20 other pissed up blokes and have a confrontation with some local idiots chasing each other down alley ways, or throwing bottles at Police etc

Les Butler
11-06-2016, 10:37 AM
Of course, although many of the English over there shall be putting themselves in situations that attract trouble.

Defending yourself doesnt then mean that you join 20 other pissed up blokes and have a confrontation with some local idiots chasing each other down alley ways, or throwing bottles at Police etc

You are in a square as the head of our police said 70 locals attacked the English support (You can see where a few ended up walking away being alone getting beaten while on the floor) Read your daily mail article again with the headline of English thugs then read what they actually say where French and Russians are hunting the English down over there.

Even the Mail admits its but not in the headline or the out of context photos where people are defending themselves before the tear gas is lobbed by the police.

The mail headline more trouble last night included the photos from the night before on top.

Putting themselves in situasions to attract trouble ?

What chanting England and having a few with fellow supporters on holiday while going to a few games....Should be tucked up in bed at 6 and they should be alright

evvo111
11-06-2016, 10:38 AM
Quite. Every nation has wankers of one sortoranother.

For England, it's the wankers with their no surrender or WW2 songs.

I must admit I was whistling Run Rabbit in Cardiff the other day and got some hard stares from some foreign looking chaps, from North Wales they were :)

orp pisshead1
11-06-2016, 10:46 AM
I must admit I was whistling Run Rabbit in Cardiff the other day and got some hard stares from some foreign looking chaps, from North Wales they were :)

Oi what's wrong with the northerners ( Welsh)?.

orp pisshead1
11-06-2016, 10:50 AM
Don't worry about them They love the lazy narrative. "Thugs" etc. The only time they ever believe the daily mail.

I even read it's not really the Russians fault, as we exported apparently. :D I'm pretty sure neolithic man spread over europe from the continent. So that trumps that argument.

:lux:

orp pisshead1
11-06-2016, 10:52 AM
Of course, although many of the English over there shall be putting themselves in situations that attract trouble.

Defending yourself doesnt then mean that you join 20 other pissed up blokes and have a confrontation with some local idiots chasing each other down alley ways, or throwing bottles at Police etc

Sorry but if it means getting rid of their trouble makers then you do. Again where were the police with reguards to the local yobs who targeted our fans?.

danpalace07
11-06-2016, 10:53 AM
remember, it's always the England fans' fault. Just ignore the Russians and Marseille ultras

messing with people's businesses isn't cool though

Les Butler
11-06-2016, 10:57 AM
I even read it's not really the Russians fault, as we exported apparently. :D I'm pretty sure neolithic man spread over europe from the continent. So that trumps that argument.

Remember back to the poor French policeman getting speared by Germans and one article said that the English have to take some responsibility for this even with bearing in mind our support were in another city completely.

Same old today and people going for it.

LLCOOLSTEVE
11-06-2016, 11:12 AM
Remember back to the poor French policeman getting speared by Germans and one article said that the English have to take some responsibility for this even with bearing in mind our support were in another city completely.

Same old today and people going for it.


Yep, its exactly the same, our support are not even in Marseille. Exactly the same.

evvo111
11-06-2016, 11:17 AM
Oi what's wrong with the northerners ( Welsh)?.

Sorry I had a Farage-Johnson moment :)

Worksop Palace
11-06-2016, 02:40 PM
Gary Cotteril on SSN can't wait to get the word 'drink' in every sentance

Wanker

orp pisshead1
11-06-2016, 02:55 PM
Sorry I had a Farage-Johnson moment :)

:D no worries.

Sp1Eagle
11-06-2016, 03:01 PM
Live stream of it: http://www.rtlnieuws.nl/buitenland/livestream-voetbalgeweld-britse-hooligans-marseille

Russians seems to be getting away with it.

LLCOOLSTEVE
11-06-2016, 03:06 PM
Great idea to put England v Russia in Marseille

LLCOOLSTEVE
11-06-2016, 03:08 PM
******* hell, just seen someone getting CPR on the live footage :(

Louis
11-06-2016, 03:13 PM
So you haven't seen the Russians having a pop at our fans then?.
No I haven't

orp pisshead1
11-06-2016, 03:22 PM
No I haven't

Well they have.

Sp1Eagle
11-06-2016, 03:26 PM
No I haven't

Geoff Pearson ‏@Geoff_Pearson 1m1 minute ago
England fans attacked by group of Russians. A few bad injuries. A lot of anger towards police (for not protecting english) & journalists.

Malarkey
11-06-2016, 03:29 PM
Geoff Pearson ‏@Geoff_Pearson 1m1 minute ago
England fans attacked by group of Russians. A few bad injuries. A lot of anger towards police (for not protecting english) & journalists.

Only English arrested probs

Sp1Eagle
11-06-2016, 03:30 PM
No I haven't

https://twitter.com/StanCollymore/status/741649067676184576

Sp1Eagle
11-06-2016, 03:40 PM
No I haven't

BGhPrUkgcsB

Golf Boy
11-06-2016, 03:44 PM
I think they hooligan element might have met their overlords in the Russians. I think someone may get killed.

Golf Boy
11-06-2016, 03:46 PM
BGhPrUkgcsB

Let's face it. A quick blast from a machine gun. No one will miss those *****.

elgin eagle
11-06-2016, 03:47 PM
remember, it's always the England fans' fault. Just ignore the Russian ultras and Marseille ultras.



All 3 groups looking for it. Vast majority of real support on both side just there for the football.

Oli28
11-06-2016, 03:50 PM
England and Russia will both be in Lille wednesday\thursday as well.

Golf Boy
11-06-2016, 03:53 PM
I'm not sure the England lot know what they're getting in to.

Louis
11-06-2016, 03:57 PM
BGhPrUkgcsB
Cheers, looks worrying :eek:

Brett
11-06-2016, 03:58 PM
All 3 groups looking for it. Vast majority of real support on both side just there for the football.

All three groups are as bad as each other. I've followed England in Euros and it's not exactly hard to avoid trouble.

waddoneagle
11-06-2016, 04:01 PM
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13432313_588183924689177_3227244659483890300_n.jpg ?oh=b0536d823770c0818fe4ea1db5c48163&oe=5801D19F

elgin eagle
11-06-2016, 04:06 PM
All three groups are as bad as each other. I've followed England in Euros and it's not exactly hard to avoid trouble.

Exactly. Still, watch the smear on TV later.

pauldrulez
11-06-2016, 04:10 PM
I'm not sure the England lot know what they're getting in to.


Considering that the Russians are picking off normal people in the streets, I'm not sure that they do.

Fwiw, PSG's hooligan element have travelled down to help the locals and Russians out

elgin eagle
11-06-2016, 04:28 PM
Or even read it on here, if you prefer.

Langers
11-06-2016, 04:30 PM
I'm not sure the England lot know what they're getting in to.

They don't care - the minority light the fuse by baiting the police and now it will be a question of standing back - I feel sorry for the thousands of innocent England fans there

Arron
11-06-2016, 04:39 PM
Exactly. Still, watch the smear on TV later.

So Russian ultras, many of them armed, didn't charge into the square where England fans were drinking and attack them, then as the England fans dispersed chase them down various side streets? That's a relief, thanks for clearing that up. It would be good though if you could also clear up the many pictures of England supporters receiving medical attention after so callously not being attacked.

Arron
11-06-2016, 04:43 PM
One question. Given the rather large police presence, are we really expected to believe that they were unaware of an organised mob of 200-300 Russian ultras approaching the area where the England fans were? Seems rather suspect to me.

Nth Kent Eagle
11-06-2016, 04:51 PM
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13432313_588183924689177_3227244659483890300_n.jpg ?oh=b0536d823770c0818fe4ea1db5c48163&oe=5801D19F

Brilliant stuff from a fellow Jambo.:p

eagle mart
11-06-2016, 04:52 PM
What gets me is that the Russians all wear the same stuff, they're that prepared. And trust me there are not groups of England fans marauding around Marseille looking for trouble. As is the way with England trouble finds them.

Ruskin Old Boy
11-06-2016, 04:53 PM
So Russian ultras, many of them armed, didn't charge into the square where England fans were drinking and attack them, then as the England fans dispersed chase them down various side streets? That's a relief, thanks for clearing that up. It would be good though if you could also clear up the many pictures of England supporters receiving medical attention after so callously not being attacked.


Best not to argue with him. You'll wake up one morning with a Russian tank on your lawn:supergrin:

elgin eagle
11-06-2016, 04:54 PM
So Russian ultras, many of them armed, didn't charge into the square where England fans were drinking and attack them, then as the England fans dispersed chase them down various side streets? That's a relief, thanks for clearing that up. It would be good though if you could also clear up the many pictures of England supporters receiving medical attention after so callously not being attacked.

Feck off Aaron, there's a good lad.

elgin eagle
11-06-2016, 04:57 PM
Best not to argue with him. You'll wake up one morning with a Russian tank on your lawn:supergrin:

You too, cold war boy.

Both groups as bad as each other. Here's the live feed if you don't believe me:

http://www.rtlnieuws.nl/buitenland/livestream-hooligans-misdragen-zich-marseille

dbutler
11-06-2016, 04:58 PM
Only seen England fans being attacked in bars, or in square. Then getting grief for giving it back. Easy targets for media, due to reputation. A lot worse happens week in week out in European league games, but it doesn't grab the headlines.

Arron
11-06-2016, 05:05 PM
Feck off Aaron, there's a good lad.

What a superb argument.

eagle mart
11-06-2016, 05:06 PM
well blow me down... About time.


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/england-russian-fans-fight-running-8166177

Arron
11-06-2016, 05:09 PM
You too, cold war boy.

Both groups as bad as each other. Here's the live feed if you don't believe me:

http://www.rtlnieuws.nl/buitenland/livestream-hooligans-misdragen-zich-marseille

I'm not sure the England fans were tooled up and organised to the extent the Russians were. The England fans are more reactive when it comes to trouble, whereas the Russians are definitely proactive.

Sp1Eagle
11-06-2016, 05:10 PM
The lad in the blue :grrr::

https://twitter.com/LaProvenceEuro/status/741671856437121024/video/1

maestro
11-06-2016, 05:13 PM
The lad in the blue :grrr::

https://twitter.com/LaProvenceEuro/status/741671856437121024/video/1

******* coward sucker punching ****.

Punishment for that should be to be stuck in the ring with a real boxer, see how brave he is then

elgin eagle
11-06-2016, 05:20 PM
I'm not sure the England fans were tooled up and organised to the extent the Russians were. The England fans are more reactive when it comes to trouble, whereas the Russians are definitely proactive.

None of the 3 groups are angels. Only a phobe would attempt to blame one group here. Feel sorry for any Russian or English supporters who get caught in the crossfire. Hope Baffled Boy and his boy are OK. The live feed shows how intimidating it is down there with the 3 groups at it.

pauldrulez
11-06-2016, 05:20 PM
The lad in the blue :grrr::



https://twitter.com/LaProvenceEuro/status/741671856437121024/video/1


Grim.

It's only going to get worse when it gets dark.

Brett
11-06-2016, 05:22 PM
The lad in the blue :grrr::

https://twitter.com/LaProvenceEuro/status/741671856437121024/video/1

The bloke was provoking him by standing there.

Friskey
11-06-2016, 05:26 PM
These Russians are complete cowards.

racehorse-80s
11-06-2016, 05:26 PM
An England fan has gone into cardiac arrest after being ambushed by Russian fans and suffering horrific head injuries , This is mental and the Russian fans are animals , I rarely take sides but in this case most of the violence and profication is coming from the Russian fans .
They are arrogant and racist cowards picking off lone fans and smaller groups , The French police should impose segregation in the city and ban alcohol before someone dies .

Friskey
11-06-2016, 05:28 PM
I'm not sure the England fans were tooled up and organised to the extent the Russians were. The England fans are more reactive when it comes to trouble, whereas the Russians are definitely proactive.

Pissed up England fans will always fight back but it's clear to see this was organised from the Russians. This happens weekly in their back yard, they shouldn't be allowed to play in these tournaments.

elgin eagle
11-06-2016, 05:30 PM
These Russians are complete cowards.

tick tock friskey.

Wycombe Eagle#2
11-06-2016, 05:31 PM
Funny that there always appears to be trouble when England travel in Europe. Your rarely see it to the extent when world cups are out of Europe. Yep England has its element o fans that will cause trouble but the vast vast majority just want to have a beer, sign sing and good time. We're hated in Europe and it's seen as a badge of honour to attack England fans.

I'm sure those that follow England away will add that they're not exactly protected by the European police forces.

Friskey
11-06-2016, 05:32 PM
tick tock friskey.

I haven't read the thread but please tell me you're not defending these animals?

elgin eagle
11-06-2016, 05:33 PM
The lad in the blue :grrr::

https://twitter.com/LaProvenceEuro/status/741671856437121024/video/1

French, no?

elgin eagle
11-06-2016, 05:34 PM
I haven't read the thread but please tell me you're not defending these animals?

Perhaps you should then. You cockmunching little scroat.

Arron
11-06-2016, 05:37 PM
Pissed up England fans will always fight back but it's clear to see this was organised from the Russians. This happens weekly in their back yard, they shouldn't be allowed to play in these tournaments.

The World Cup in 2018 is going to be fun. Anyone travelling to Russia for the tournament will be taking their life in their hands.

Friskey
11-06-2016, 05:37 PM
Perhaps you should then. You cockmunching little scroat.

If it's you defending the indefensible then I've read it all before. These guys are complete scum and it's a routine played out before most games in Russia. The England fans have no choice but to protect themselves. To make matters worse they seem to be attacking lone people/small groups so add cowardly to the list. Complete and utter scum bags.

Heath eagle
11-06-2016, 05:38 PM
Just see a massive palace st George's cross bang in the middle of trouble on sky news , keep safe boys

Friskey
11-06-2016, 05:39 PM
The World Cup in 2018 is going to be fun. Anyone travelling to Russia for the tournament will be taking their life in their hands.

I'll be amazed if anyone goes.

elgin eagle
11-06-2016, 05:39 PM
Funny that there always appears to be trouble when England travel in Europe. Your rarely see it to the extent when world cups are out of Europe. Yep England has its element o fans that will cause trouble but the vast vast majority just want to have a beer, sign sing and good time. We're hated in Europe and it's seen as a badge of honour to attack England fans.

I'm sure those that follow England away will add that they're not exactly protected by the European police forces.

The English hooligans look like they are getting more than they bargained for today. I've seen Russian hooligans fighting in Moscow, they don't feck about. By the looks of that twitter, the french arent taking prisoners either.

The only laughable thing about this thread is the predictability of the appearance of the phobes on it.

Heath eagle
11-06-2016, 05:46 PM
The lad in the blue :grrr::

https://twitter.com/LaProvenceEuro/status/741671856437121024/video/1

The lad in the blue Russian or English

EagleSE24
11-06-2016, 05:48 PM
French, no?

English attacking a local with his shopping and his hands up. At least that what it looks like to me.

elgin eagle
11-06-2016, 05:55 PM
English attacking a local with his shopping and his hands up. At least that what it looks like to me.

Crazy. Bunch of wankers, regardless of whether they are English/French/Russian or Outer Mongolian.

Heb 7:4
11-06-2016, 05:57 PM
The English hooligans look like they are getting more than they bargained for today. I've seen Russian hooligans fighting in Moscow, they don't feck about. By the looks of that twitter, the french arent taking prisoners either.

The only laughable thing about this thread is the predictability of the appearance of the phobes on it.

Hooligans? The reports from those on the ground say it was organised and tooled up Russian ultras attacking ordinary England fans.

I've seen the footage of them stamping on the head of the bloke on the ground. Utter cowards.

You can shove your shameful apologisim up your arse, wittering on about "phones" when any right thinking person would just condemn it

JDawg
11-06-2016, 05:59 PM
So we have black clad Russian Ultras who appear to be tooled up. To me that's pre-meditated. Kinda makes you feel warm about the location of the next World Cup doesn't it. It also seems to be a bunch of local far rightists. Again takes a bit of organising. And a bunch of pissed up England fans who've been drinking and in the sun all day. Some of whom will be defending themselves and some who will be taking it too far. What could possibly go wrong. By no means am I condoning this but the BBC leading with England fans in clashes in Marseilles for the third day running and Andy Burnham calling England fans an embarrassment perhaps does not tell the full story. But then for these two perhaps the detail shouldn't get in the way of a good story.
Tossers.

elgin eagle
11-06-2016, 05:59 PM
Oh god, its another one.

squelchy18
11-06-2016, 05:59 PM
Well done FIFA for awarding Russia the WC.

This sort of behaviour is common for them.

elgin eagle
11-06-2016, 06:03 PM
Hooligans? The reports from those on the ground say it was organised and tooled up Russian ultras attacking ordinary England fans.

I've seen the footage of them stamping on the head of the bloke on the ground. Utter cowards.

You can shove your shameful apologisim up your arse, wittering on about "phones" when any right thinking person would just condemn it

I've condemned it on every post.

So feck off as well.

Heb 7:4
11-06-2016, 06:04 PM
Oh god, its another one.

Aye, another one who thinks steaming in tooled up to innocent bystanders makes you a massive ****, regardless of the nationalities of either side.

But yet again, because it turns out one side turns out to be Russian, the ******* honour of the motherland must be defended.

It's seriously creepy. These ultras are absolute scum, yet apparently anyone criticising them without insisting the people they attacked are just as much to blame are "phobes"

What an absolute crock of shit.

elgin eagle
11-06-2016, 06:06 PM
You said it.

danpalace07
11-06-2016, 06:07 PM
seems that the Russians are only hard when they've got the numbers, otherwise on their toes a bit sharpish

Friskey
11-06-2016, 06:07 PM
Well done FIFA for awarding Russia the WC.

This sort of behaviour is common for them.

That's the mad thing, this is no surprise so what were FIFA thinking (well two corrupt organisations involved explains that). These 'fans' are complete animals. They're about 20-30 years behind the rest of Europe.

I suspect that it will be the first World Cup ever where most countries take little or no fans. You would have to be mad to want to go over there now. It's a bit of a shame as I've always fancied having a look round Russia but that tournament will be a hell hole.

Chocky
11-06-2016, 06:08 PM
Just see a massive palace st George's cross bang in the middle of trouble on sky news , keep safe boys

I just saw that, a load of fans on the deck blood pissing out their heads then a massive St. George's Palace flag being held up behind them.

I went from shaking my head thinking wtf to YES EEEEAGLES in a second. Come on you Palace there.

Oli28
11-06-2016, 06:15 PM
seems that the Russians are only hard when they've got the numbers, otherwise on their toes a bit sharpish
Cringe

evvo111
11-06-2016, 06:16 PM
It'll be interesting to see what happens with the respective 'fans' when their teams play against the other teams in the competition. Will there be trouble then? If there is it may be a fair indicator of the hooligan element of the different followings and it may show a trend.

I think Slovakia have some nutters, as do Wales, but I was told by a mate that a lot of the Welsh fans were celebrating with the French during their match last night.

LLCOOLSTEVE
11-06-2016, 06:18 PM
They are all as bad as each other, there are many England fans quite happy to find trouble.

I saw a clip earlie of what appeared to be a large group of England fans in a square of some sort, and an old lady at her window looking out and someone threw a bottle up towards the window just missing her.

Yes, many are being attacked for no good reason but lets also not pretend that all the England fans are angels

Friskey
11-06-2016, 06:22 PM
They are all as bad as each other, there are many England fans quite happy to find trouble.

I saw a clip earlie of what appeared to be a large group of England fans in a square of some sort, and an old lady at her window looking out and someone threw a bottle up towards the window just missing her.

Yes, many are being attacked for no good reason but lets also not pretend that all the England fans are angels

We've got morons but they've got animals. There is a difference. They're running around with weapons and are clearly organised and stone cold sober. They're attacking smaller groups in large numbers. We've got pissed up morons doing what morons do. Sure we have our own issues but the two can't be compared IMO.

Both sides have ordinary fans as well of course minding their own business....

Chocky
11-06-2016, 06:22 PM
I thought all this shite was well over well it is in England but then you have to deal with other countries who are stick in the past with their nutters who think attacking England fans is their mission because at one point we were the ultimate boys.

It's so sad.

Having said that I wish we had smashed every single Man Utd fans faces in a couple of weeks ago. The bastards.

917L
11-06-2016, 06:25 PM
Certainly appears to be England fans being ambushed/attacked in the first instance from the clips Ive seen

evvo111
11-06-2016, 06:29 PM
We've got morons but they've got animals. There is a difference. They're running around with weapons and are clearly organised and stone cold sober. They're attacking smaller groups in large numbers. We've got pissed up morons doing what morons do. Sure we have our own issues but the two can't be compared IMO.

Both sides have ordinary fans as well of course minding their own business....

These are the ones we should be concerned about.

The other idiots should go to a park, preferably one the army have put land mines in, and fight until they drop.

st albans
11-06-2016, 06:29 PM
The World Cup in 2018 is going to be fun. Anyone travelling to Russia for the tournament will be taking their life in their hands.

No one is going to go to it

Lukey.
11-06-2016, 06:30 PM
Certainly appears to be England fans being ambushed/attacked in the first instance from the clips Ive seen

That's how the bbc just reported it.

917L
11-06-2016, 06:31 PM
No one is going to go to it

I bet that f*cking Sheffield Wednesday band get there!

Leeroy
11-06-2016, 06:31 PM
Just watching the news, the violence is shocking !

Pretty sure that's a palace flag on "the front line"

philsick
11-06-2016, 06:32 PM
seems that the Russians are only hard when they've got the numbers, otherwise on their toes a bit sharpish

Alot of english hooligans are fat middle aged unfit pissheads who like throwing chairs and bottles singing and having hold me back rucks. The russian nazis are gym bunny trained fighters who are highly organised psychos. Only one winner if the numbers are even.

Friskey
11-06-2016, 06:32 PM
These are the ones we should be concerned about.

The other idiots should go to a park, preferably one the army have put land mines in, and fight until they drop.

I agree. The Russian fans in particular seem to be the ones attacking 'ordinary' people though.

Les Butler
11-06-2016, 06:33 PM
I bet that f*cking Sheffield Wednesday band get there!

Hope the Russians do them or they might even surrender (talking about the russians).

elgin eagle
11-06-2016, 06:33 PM
These are the ones we should be concerned about.

The other idiots should go to a park, preferably one the army have put land mines in, and fight until they drop.

Good call John.

Stick the phobes in the middle and its win win for everyone :p

evvo111
11-06-2016, 06:35 PM
Good call John.

Stick the phobes in the middle and its win win for everyone :p

:p

Les Butler
11-06-2016, 06:35 PM
Why you even bother arguing with this complete fanatical blinkered bloke who is so proud of his adopted people I don't know what ever you say there will not be a reasoned reply just that you are a phobe end of argument in his head.

Yes we have some that are not angels but they are mostly pissed up twats who might be rude to a granny or someone doing their shopping but are well out of their league when it comes to these black clad tooled up Russians.

Its incredible whats going on out there and fecking scary lets hope the police can get in there and sort it out for the safety of everyone .

eaglejez
11-06-2016, 06:35 PM
They are all as bad as each other, there are many England fans quite happy to find trouble.

I saw a clip earlie of what appeared to be a large group of England fans in a square of some sort, and an old lady at her window looking out and someone threw a bottle up towards the window just missing her.

Yes, many are being attacked for no good reason but lets also not pretend that all the England fans are angels

No one is but no one has done more to sort out the hooligan element than England. If you go to England away matches you have to be an official Emgland Fan and you have to prove that you ha e gone to the match otherwise you are expelled. I'm guessing there are a few knobs over there but 99% of England away supporters are 30/40 somethings often with kids and wives having a good time. I'm sure there are a few idiots from the England fans but this looks pre meditated attacking by Russian and French nutters

racehorse-80s
11-06-2016, 06:39 PM
Alot of english hooligans are fat middle aged unfit pissheads who like throwing chairs and bottles singing and having hold me back rucks. The russian nazis are gym bunny trained fighters who are highly organised psychos. Only one winner if the numbers are even.

I disagree , Seen many an old geezer lay out a fit youngster .

SeanPalace84
11-06-2016, 06:39 PM
I just feel completely sorry for the ordinary fans caught up in all this. No doubt the Russians are going for it but Ofcourse we have some morons as well.

Sad to see that bloke receiving CPR after having a heart attack. Hope he is okay!

Friskey
11-06-2016, 06:40 PM
Why you even bother arguing with this complete fanatical blinkered bloke who is so proud of his adopted people I don't know what ever you say there will not be a reasoned reply just that you are a phobe end of argument in his head.

Yes we have some that are not angels but they are mostly pissed up twats who might be rude to a granny or someone doing their shopping but are well out of their league when it comes to these black clad tooled up Russians.

Its incredible whats going on out there and fecking scary lets hope the police can get in there and sort it out for the safety of everyone .

:love:

SeanPalace84
11-06-2016, 06:41 PM
Why are we so hated?? Why would the French and Russians want to do us in THIS much.

Ruskin Old Boy
11-06-2016, 06:41 PM
Why you even bother arguing with this complete fanatical blinkered bloke who is so proud of his adopted people I don't know what ever you say there will not be a reasoned reply just that you are a phobe end of argument in his head.

Yes we have some that are not angels but they are mostly pissed up twats who might be rude to a granny or someone doing their shopping but are well out of their league when it comes to these black clad tooled up Russians.

Its incredible whats going on out there and fecking scary lets hope the police can get in there and sort it out for the safety of everyone .

^^^this.

Louis
11-06-2016, 06:42 PM
I didn't foresee much trouble from Russian fans partly because I don't remember that much being reported in Euro 2012 despite a lot of Russian fans travelling to Poland for their group games and the tension between Russia and Poland. So I didn't think there would be much trouble from Russian fans in France. But it seems there a lot of Russian fans are there, well up for serious aggro, and as others have said, they don't mess about, and are quite happy to inflict serious damage.

"Social media" means the hooligan sideshow will get as much coverage as the actual football now no matter how much is in the offical press.

elgin eagle
11-06-2016, 06:42 PM
Why you even bother arguing with this complete fanatical blinkered bloke who is so proud of his adopted people I don't know what ever you say there will not be a reasoned reply just that you are a phobe end of argument in his head.

Yes we have some that are not angels but they are mostly pissed up twats who might be rude to a granny or someone doing their shopping but are well out of their league when it comes to these black clad tooled up Russians.

Its incredible whats going on out there and fecking scary lets hope the police can get in there and sort it out for the safety of everyone .

great moderation

LLCOOLSTEVE
11-06-2016, 06:42 PM
No one is but no one has done more to sort out the hooligan element than England. If you go to England away matches you have to be an official Emgland Fan and you have to prove that you ha e gone to the match otherwise you are expelled. I'm guessing there are a few knobs over there but 99% of England away supporters are 30/40 somethings often with kids and wives having a good time. I'm sure there are a few idiots from the England fans but this looks pre meditated attacking by Russian and French nutters



I do agree it's a very small minority

Les Butler
11-06-2016, 06:45 PM
great moderation

You are a fecking nutter ...Feck the moderation you fecking bell end twat.

People are getting hurt you blinkered one sided idiot .

Ruskin Old Boy
11-06-2016, 06:47 PM
I didn't foresee much trouble from Russian fans partly because I don't remember that much being reported in Euro 2012 despite a lot of Russian fans travelling to Poland for their group games and the tension between Russia and Poland. So I didn't think there would be much trouble from Russian fans in France. But it seems there a lot of Russian fans are there, well up for serious aggro, and as others have said, they don't mess about, and are quite happy to inflict serious damage.

"Social media" means the hooligan sideshow will get as much coverage as the actual football now no matter how much is in the offical press.

The difference between the hooligan elements has been written about for some time. We're familiar with problems associated with English fans abroad but Russia is different. Their hooligans will be there with the tacit approval and support of their government.

elgin eagle
11-06-2016, 06:47 PM
You are a fecking nutter ...Feck the moderation you fecking bell end twat.

People are getting hurt you blinkered one sided idiot .

And i've condemned them on nearly every post.

FFS some of you people.

dbutler
11-06-2016, 06:47 PM
great moderation

G

Les Butler
11-06-2016, 06:47 PM
Right I'm off to watch a football match where hopefully no one gets hurt or killed and again feck the Mod bollocks.

Worksop Palace
11-06-2016, 06:47 PM
Just watching the news, the violence is shocking !

Pretty sure that's a palace flag on "the front line"

'Pretty sure' ...?

That will be the Crystal Palace and Pride Of South London that gives it away then

:supergrin:

Worksop Palace
11-06-2016, 06:48 PM
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Spot

eagle mart
11-06-2016, 06:49 PM
LLCOOLSTEVE takes a break from his big brother thread to come over and thinly spread the blame before singling out emaybe it was England who threw fans bottle at a window. Please scuttle back to big brother thread as that's your level..

I guarantee you there are not England fans marauding around looking for trouble well there weren't before today.. And I mean that. They have come over as fans. Because anybody who was would have been stopped....

The Russians ,they'll probably come back home with honours from Putin.

dbutler
11-06-2016, 06:50 PM
Right I'm off to watch a football match where hopefully no one gets hurt or killed and again feck the Mod bollocks.

I'm off to a party, happy with the Wales result, wont drink to much. Everything in MODERATION ;)

dbutler
11-06-2016, 06:51 PM
Spot
String

LLCOOLSTEVE
11-06-2016, 06:52 PM
LLCOOLSTEVE takes a break from his big brother thread to come over and thinly spread the blame before singling out emaybe it was England who threw fans bottle at a window. Please scuttle back to big brother thread as that's your level..

I guarantee you there are not England fans marauding around looking for trouble well there weren't before today.. And I mean that. They have come over as fans. Because anybody who was would have been stopped....

The Russians ,they'll probably come back home with honours from Putin.



Oh grow up

I think I've been very reasonable, you on the other hand are looking to sling personal insults. Pathetic.

eagle mart
11-06-2016, 06:53 PM
Reports that cpr guy, 51 had his heart restarted, but remains critical.

Now for some football.

Les Butler
11-06-2016, 06:53 PM
The bell end took it to the stupid neg rep bollocks.. In the open I have told him to f uck off.

BBK
11-06-2016, 06:53 PM
I think they hooligan element might have met their overlords in the Russians. I think someone may get killed.

People hate English for giving it the large back in the day, hence why fans get done over when they travel for Europe. The rest of Europe do this every weekend in big numbers while the epl are eating hot dogs and singing banter.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0y_2l4CMAAjjXz.jpg
Obviously Blazing Squad aren't out there otherwise there'd all be running away from English...

elgin eagle
11-06-2016, 06:54 PM
I just feel completely sorry for the ordinary fans caught up in all this. No doubt the Russian hooligans are going for it but Ofcourse we have some morons as well.



Massively this.

elgin eagle
11-06-2016, 06:55 PM
The bell end took it to the stupid neg rep bollocks.. In the open I have told him to f uck off.

Good, i can reply in the open now too. f uck off yourself :veryangry

Les Butler
11-06-2016, 06:57 PM
Good, i can reply in the open now too. f uck off yourself :veryangry

Tick Tock

Worksop Palace
11-06-2016, 07:00 PM
String

Force

Heb 7:4
11-06-2016, 07:00 PM
And i've condemned them on nearly every post.

FFS some of you people.

Bullshit. Your priotity from the off has been to challenge anyone criticising the Russian thugs while insisting everyone else is just as bad

All 3 groups looking for it. Vast majority of real support on both side just there for the football.

You too, cold war boy.

Both groups as bad as each other. Here's the live feed if you don't believe me:

http://www.rtlnieuws.nl/buitenland/livestream-hooligans-misdragen-zich-marseille

None of the 3 groups are angels. Only a phobe would attempt to blame one group here. Feel sorry for any Russian or English supporters who get caught in the crossfire. Hope Baffled Boy and his boy are OK. The live feed shows how intimidating it is down there with the 3 groups at it.

The English hooligans look like they are getting more than they bargained for today. I've seen Russian hooligans fighting in Moscow, they don't feck about. By the looks of that twitter, the french arent taking prisoners either.

The only laughable thing about this thread is the predictability of the appearance of the phobes on it.

Not a single post from the start of this thread just unequivocally condemning the Russian thugs who attacked.

dbutler
11-06-2016, 07:05 PM
Good, i can reply in the open now too. f uck off yourself :veryangry

Very grown upski, lol

dbutler
11-06-2016, 07:06 PM
Force

Whizz ;)

Justin Beaver
11-06-2016, 07:09 PM
Yeah try to fight Russians who train in martial arts or Poles who travel with axes everywhere. What could go wrong...

Worksop Palace
11-06-2016, 07:39 PM
Whizz ;)

Ooh ya bastard ...

I'll be back to you ..

Worksop Palace
11-06-2016, 07:40 PM
Whizz ;)

Gees

west country boy
11-06-2016, 08:03 PM
Funk

cpfc4evandeva
11-06-2016, 08:16 PM
Sus.

Friskey
11-06-2016, 08:45 PM
Bet Elgin is furious at England letting off those smoke bombs. ;)

eagle mart
11-06-2016, 08:53 PM
Russian fans charged the English in the stadium at FT.


https://twitter.com/Geoff_Pearson/status/741734204648607744

Lukey.
11-06-2016, 08:54 PM
Come on don't be a "phobe".

SA Eagle
11-06-2016, 08:55 PM
Russian fans charged the English in the stadium at FT.


https://twitter.com/Geoff_Pearson/status/741734204648607744

Stop smearing

LLCOOLSTEVE
11-06-2016, 08:57 PM
Russian fans charged the English in the stadium at FT.


https://twitter.com/Geoff_Pearson/status/741734204648607744


Yeah that was bloody nasty

Friskey
11-06-2016, 08:57 PM
Russian fans charged the English in the stadium at FT.


https://twitter.com/Geoff_Pearson/status/741734204648607744

Looks like England were asking for it. Both as bad as each other.

Arron
11-06-2016, 08:59 PM
Stop smearing

I'm sure Elgin will be along soon to say how out of character it is for Russian football hoolig... sorry, fans, to behave in such a way.

eagle mart
11-06-2016, 09:02 PM
Good to see you still all got your humour.

Sp1Eagle
11-06-2016, 09:08 PM
England trying to get away from the Russians.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CksuOUEWUAIwglY.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkswCW6WgAAczcv.jpg:large

Lukey.
11-06-2016, 09:16 PM
UEFA need to have a word but they won't because they'll blame us usual.

Brett
11-06-2016, 09:21 PM
Surprised to see England running but I spose 'when in France'...

racehorse-80s
11-06-2016, 09:22 PM
It's going to be a long night in Marseille .

Heb 7:4
11-06-2016, 09:25 PM
https://twitter.com/i/moments/741737696440295424

Golf Boy
11-06-2016, 09:28 PM
Surprised to see England running but I spose 'when in France'...

I would too. Those Russians don't just want agro. They seriously want to harm people.

Hedgehog
11-06-2016, 09:29 PM
Jumping over walls in flip flops is not going to end well!

Justin Beaver
11-06-2016, 09:30 PM
Jumping over walls in flip flops is not going to end well!

That's what I wanted to say. If you know you'll be chased by some Russians don't wear flip flops.

SA Eagle
11-06-2016, 09:30 PM
Mark Ogden of the Independent tweeting about Russian fans in the stadium and the poor security

Hedgehog
11-06-2016, 09:33 PM
That's what I wanted to say. If you know you'll be chased by some Russians don't wear flip flops.
I would say don't wear flip flops to a football match full stop.

Justin Beaver
11-06-2016, 09:34 PM
Mark Ogden of the Independent tweeting about Russian fans in the stadium and the poor security

Russia v Poland, Russia v Turkey or Russia v Ukraine should be interesting.
Or Poland, Ukraine, Turkey, England v Russia.

Kylie_Tracey
11-06-2016, 09:35 PM
security and stewarding looks non existent

racehorse-80s
11-06-2016, 09:37 PM
The British police are the dogs bollocks compared to the French gendarme's .

SE5eagle
11-06-2016, 09:37 PM
Worked a few years in Russia, so whilst not an expert, I know a few bits and bobs; namely that Russian hoolies model themselves on English hooligans of yesteryear.

The only difference is that, a Philsick highlighted, they don't do their prep in Wetherspoons but the gym and prefer serious weapons to chucking b&q garden furniture and bottles around picturesque city squares.

It isn't right that it's happening, and no side is any worse/better, more innocent/ to blame than the other.

However, the fact is that the chickens are coming home to roost.

A significant minority of England fans have been behaving, for a long time, like the Irish tinkers who give out their mobile numbers on youtube, looking for a knuckle.

Why people are so surprised to hear the phone ring is the only surprise here.

racehorse-80s
11-06-2016, 09:39 PM
I would too. Those Russians don't just want agro. They seriously want to harm people.

Sectarian style violence .

LLCOOLSTEVE
11-06-2016, 09:39 PM
I'll retract much of my comments from earlier

It appears there are many many Russian c nuts there just looking for trouble

Not all our fans are angels but those Russians are disgraceful

I'm off to bed as off to Paris tomorrow, hopefully tonight passes off quietly

Sp1Eagle
11-06-2016, 09:40 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkszTvwWEAA6KKS.jpg:large

Sp1Eagle
11-06-2016, 09:40 PM
Irish and Polish fans now fighting https://twitter.com/YannQuerciaa/status/741739534711455745/video/1

CPFC Since 68
11-06-2016, 09:43 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkszTvwWEAA6KKS.jpg:large

Women and kids should never be subjected to this shit. Cowardly scum.

Kylie_Tracey
11-06-2016, 09:46 PM
Irish and Polish fans now fighting https://twitter.com/YannQuerciaa/status/741739534711455745/video/1

why would these two set of fans want a tear up?

SE5eagle
11-06-2016, 09:48 PM
The Irish fans are in Versailles, he's referring to those from the north of ireland.

racehorse-80s
11-06-2016, 09:49 PM
Women and kids should never be subjected to this shit. Cowardly scum.

The tournament is over for many of these family's I suspect which is very sad , Just hope they make it back to their hotels safely as the police seem incapable of keeping order .

Kylie_Tracey
11-06-2016, 09:49 PM
Russia v Poland, Russia v Turkey or Russia v Ukraine should be interesting.
Or Poland, Ukraine, Turkey, England v Russia.

the simple fact is that the whole tournament is a powder keg waiting to erupt

Arron
11-06-2016, 09:52 PM
Irish and Polish fans now fighting https://twitter.com/YannQuerciaa/status/741739534711455745/video/1

Let's see if this gets blanket coverage. I won't be holding my breath. :rolleyes:

Golf Boy
11-06-2016, 09:52 PM
Russia should be thrown out of the tournement after charging at the other fans in the ground.

Justin Beaver
11-06-2016, 09:52 PM
why would these two set of fans want a tear up?

Fighting over jobs in England?

Ian of Chatham
11-06-2016, 09:55 PM
why would these two set of fans want a tear up?


There's history between Northern Ireland and Poland. There was trouble in 2009 when they played each other. You can see that on YouTube.

Worksop Palace
11-06-2016, 09:56 PM
Ain't it great that we all get along so well..

willcpfc
11-06-2016, 09:57 PM
The Russian hooligan element is probably in a different league to the English one.

A Wooden Fish On Wheels
11-06-2016, 09:57 PM
It's not right, but I don't think that the euros are family friendly... Premiership, yes. Euros... No.

old git
11-06-2016, 10:00 PM
The Russian hooligan element is probably in a different league to the English one.

The English have had years to ban and sort out the main hooligans,the Russians are at the stage we were 30 years ago.

Friskey
11-06-2016, 10:01 PM
Russia should be thrown out of the tournement after charging at the other fans in the ground.

Should never have been allowed in to start with. I'm not sure how far they have to go to get a ban.......I guess one of the most corrupt countries in the world can get away with anything when the authorities are FIFA/UEFA. Ban them? Nah, let's give them a World Cup! Madness.

ebyeeckeagle
11-06-2016, 10:02 PM
It's not right, but I don't think that the euros are family friendly... Premiership, yes. Euros... No.

Trouble in the grounds are very rare. I've been to a few tournaments and the trouble is usually always around drinking places. So easy to avoid and have had great times.

Having said that I always avoid England games tbh precisely because they become targets. So my experience is generally non England games but I'm sure it's not hugely dissimilar.

Ian of Chatham
11-06-2016, 10:03 PM
People hate English for giving it the large back in the day, hence why fans get done over when they travel for Europe. The rest of Europe do this every weekend in big numbers while the epl are eating hot dogs and singing


Yes that is very much the case. As far as Europe us concerned, we are the international equivalent of Millwall or Leeds Utd due to what used to happen in the 80s. Mud sticks I'm afraid.

eagle mart
11-06-2016, 10:07 PM
It's interesting but I suspect most of those in that section were English. But it wasn't the official section. It was mixed. French and just about any nationality you can guess. I expect fifa will defo do them for that. Not sure what they can impose though...

sheepy
11-06-2016, 10:09 PM
Scenes tonight in the stadium were a disgrace.

Obviously footage needs to be carefully reviewed to see who was responsible, but there's gotta be an arguement for banning Russia and / or England fans from stadiums for the rest of the tournament after that. Really hope UEFA take a zero tolerance policy here.

Les Butler
11-06-2016, 10:10 PM
I'm sure Elgin will be along soon to say how out of character it is for Russian football hoolig... sorry, fans, to behave in such a way.

No he won't as I shut him up for the time being .

Langers
11-06-2016, 10:14 PM
Scenes tonight in the stadium were a disgrace.

Gotta be an arguement for banning Russia and / or England fans from stadiums for the rest of the tournament after that. Really hope UEFA take a zero tolerance policy here.

It's fine - all seater stadiums mean that all the Russians troublemakers will be traced and banned for life

sheepy
11-06-2016, 10:16 PM
It's fine - all seater stadiums mean that all the Russians troublemakers will be traced and banned for life

Considering the scenes outside the stadium I'm not convinced banning single supporters will make that much difference if I'm honest.