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CPFC_DAVE77
20-06-2016, 07:33 AM
Apparently England are going to make a load of changes for this game, including possibly the full backs. It's reported we could make as many as six changes.

Anyone else think this is a good idea or a bad one?

For me, bad idea.

What you gain is far outweighed by what you could lose.

EagleSE24
20-06-2016, 08:14 AM
Wouldn't change the back five but would bring in Sturridge and Vardy for Sterling and Kane. Team I've seen rumoured/predicted is

Hart
Clyne Smalling Cahill Betrand
Henderson Dier Wilshere
Lallana Vardy Sturridge

CPFC_DAVE77
20-06-2016, 08:23 AM
Wouldn't change the back five

Absolutely agree.

If the back four is where we are concerned, let them have another game to get used to each other.

Also, it's not like we are guaranteed of going through, there is a job to do yet.

ExCroydon_CPFC
20-06-2016, 08:27 AM
Apparently England are going to make a load of changes for this game, including possibly the full backs. It's reported we could make as many as six changes.

Anyone else think this is a good idea or a bad one?

For me, bad idea.

What you gain is far outweighed by what you could lose.

Terrible idea. We need to nail down our first 11 and get them playing together as a team. We had multiple friendlies to try out different tactics but now is not the time for wholesale changes, plus we need to go for a win to ensure we finish top and get an easier route in the knockouts.

I'd play the same team as against Russia and Slovakia, with Sturridge in for Sterling. I'd be tempted to rest Kane but he needs a goal and confidence, so this should be a good game for him to play in. Vardy to come on 2nd half, either for one of the midfielders or for Kane if he really is struggling up top.

CPFC_DAVE77
20-06-2016, 08:58 AM
Back fours, in my opinion, are about relationships.

Look at Italy/Juve, look at Arsenal's old defence.

Give this back four another 90 minutes to play together, it will only help them.

Nostrils
20-06-2016, 09:06 AM
Quite an interesting read.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36568360

And this...

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/12016/10317711/who-will-england-play-if-they-qualify-for-the-last-16-of-euro-2016

Germany:eek:

Kylie_Tracey
20-06-2016, 09:46 AM
Quite an interesting read.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36568360

And this...

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/12016/10317711/who-will-england-play-if-they-qualify-for-the-last-16-of-euro-2016

Germany:eek:

just like the game plan he used in the quarter finals against Italy in 2012 and the game plan he took to the last world cup?

Nostrils
20-06-2016, 09:52 AM
To be fair to him, we've only really played teams that have been playing for a draw. I think when (if) we get into the last 16, against opponents that actually believe they are going to beat us, then we can really judge how he is doing tactically.

I think we've been good and so far, much better than I expected after having watched our final friendly against Portugal. Slovakia will hopefully be a bit more open.

CPFC_DAVE77
20-06-2016, 10:19 AM
just like the game plan he used in the quarter finals against Italy in 2012 and the game plan he took to the last world cup?

And the game plan he's taken to about the last 17 unbeaten or whatever it is?

fioreuk
20-06-2016, 10:23 AM
That many changes is a bad idea IMHO, need to pick up continuity with a first choice 11 and formation. Its potentially only 4 more games including the final should we get there. Got to play best team. Not as it Slovakia going to be a walkover anyway.

Kylie_Tracey
20-06-2016, 10:32 AM
And the game plan he's taken to about the last 17 unbeaten or whatever it is?

I take it you missed the Holland and Spain games?the unbeaten run includes matches against Lithuania/Estonia and San Marino, mighty impressive indeed

CPFC_DAVE77
20-06-2016, 10:48 AM
I take it you missed the Holland and Spain games?the unbeaten run includes matches against Lithuania/Estonia and San Marino, mighty impressive indeed

Yea.

Shame he didn't lose more qualifiers to make your criticism even more valid.

Bastard Roy winning all the games and taking us to a bastard tournament.

I'm sure Holland would swap the victory in a pointless game for qualification.

Kylie_Tracey
20-06-2016, 10:59 AM
Yea.

Shame he didn't lose more qualifiers to make your criticism even more valid.

Bastard Roy winning all the games and taking us to a bastard tournament.

I'm sure Holland would swap the victory in a pointless game for qualification.

Holland purposely self destruct always have done, when Holland failed to qualify for the WC of 1986 Ruud Guiilt was playing his banjo in the changing room afterwards, you and me would have got a tune out of that team wouldn't we? He sailed through the 2014 WC qualifiers didn't make a blind bit of difference though, you realise we almost relegated Liverpool?

ebyeeckeagle
20-06-2016, 11:11 AM
If a player is close to injury due to fatigue or whatever, this is the only game that offers a chance to rest them. And while I would normally be a bit dismissive of pros moaning about tiredness, there is the counter argument of likely replacements being seriously stale if needed.

More for me is who is better? Rose or Bertrand? If Sturridge is on the left, that could mean an awful lot more defensive work for the left back.

eaglejez
20-06-2016, 11:22 AM
would be odd but will probably end up fluking a brilliant team that works...........











or not

Celestial Empire
20-06-2016, 11:27 AM
Wouldn't change the back five but would bring in Sturridge and Vardy for Sterling and Kane. Team I've seen rumoured/predicted is

Hart
Clyne Smalling Cahill Betrand
Henderson Dier Wilshere
Lallana Vardy Sturridge

A midfield without a leader, and the dead-weight that is Henderson.
And Milner to come on for Wilshere, when Wilshere "gets a knock" ?

Kylie_Tracey
20-06-2016, 11:29 AM
To be fair to him, we've only really played teams that have been playing for a draw. I think when (if) we get into the last 16, against opponents that actually believe they are going to beat us, then we can really judge how he is doing tactically.

I think we've been good and so far, much better than I expected after having watched our final friendly against Portugal. Slovakia will hopefully be a bit more open.

the worry I have though is that if we win the group and face an unfancied team that have made it through to the KO stages via the trap door they too will play for a dull defensive draw that will end up in a pen shoot out, and we know what that means dont we? and never will Woy do what LVG did when he brought on Krul in the last WC in their pen shoot out in a trillion years

Celestial Empire
20-06-2016, 11:49 AM
Hodgson is more interested in keeping his sulky squad happy than finding the optimum team and sticking with it.
As far as Kane being "tired" is concerned, Hodgson should pay attention to what Pochettino said, about not accepting that any fit player can be tired.

BBK
20-06-2016, 12:11 PM
We need to make at least 3 because Kane and Sterling have been shit and the boy Jack Wilshere needs a game.

Baffled Bob 2
20-06-2016, 12:16 PM
I think Roy is great. Just compare how the current team plays with the turgid Capello team at the last Euros.

And I really like this Devil may Care Roy planning 6 changes to a winning team. It seems massively out of character and saucy.

Come on England! Knighthood for Roy please Ma'am.

Golf Boy
20-06-2016, 12:40 PM
That Southampton goalie can't be much good if he can't dislodge Hart

Timbo
20-06-2016, 12:51 PM
We might be gambling with changes, but it would keep key players fresh and might turn up someone who is in blazing form. It is after all a squad game these days. Frankly, if we cant beat Solvakia with our 2nd team we might as well go home anyway

CPFC_DAVE77
20-06-2016, 01:03 PM
Frankly if we can't be Slovakia with our first or second team it wouldn't matter, we'll still go through such is the nonsense watering down of the format

orp pisshead1
20-06-2016, 02:11 PM
Apparently England are going to make a load of changes for this game, including possibly the full backs. It's reported we could make as many as six changes.

Anyone else think this is a good idea or a bad one?

For me, bad idea.

What you gain is far outweighed by what you could lose.

Ferdinand made a great point about building momentum up as the tournament progresses, so with that in mind Sturridge and Vardy to start and I'd rest the two full backs who've both put in big shifts in last two games.

orp pisshead1
20-06-2016, 02:12 PM
Get to work just before 8 but will watch game first. COY3L :lux::lux:

orp pisshead1
20-06-2016, 02:13 PM
That Southampton goalie can't be much good if he can't dislodge Hart

He wasn't in best of form towards ends of season tbh.

meee
20-06-2016, 02:46 PM
I think Roy is great. Just compare how the current team plays with the turgid Capello team at the last Euros.

And I really like this Devil may Care Roy planning 6 changes to a winning team. It seems massively out of character and saucy.

Come on England! Knighthood for Roy please Ma'am.

Capello was awful but Roy was in charge at the last Euros.

Lombardo's hair
20-06-2016, 02:54 PM
Capello was awful but Roy was in charge at the last Euros.

Er no he wasn't he was in charge at WC.

Lombardo's hair
20-06-2016, 02:55 PM
He wasn't in best of form towards ends of season tbh.

Are you serious? Based on what?

CPFC_DAVE77
20-06-2016, 03:01 PM
Ferdinand made a great point about building momentum up as the tournament progresses, so with that in mind Sturridge and Vardy to start and I'd rest the two full backs who've both put in big shifts in last two games.

Personally, I've no problem with rotating the midfield and forwards as you have said.

I do however feel that the back four can only benefit from playing another game with each other, and I would leave that be.

CPFC_DAVE77
20-06-2016, 03:02 PM
Not sure how this one will play out so I've covered my bet and done any goal in the last 20 mins.

RobertCPFC
20-06-2016, 03:17 PM
I don't see it being straightforward for England tonight and that Slovakia will give us a tough game but I do think we will end up winning.

Just so everyone is aware if we win the group we will be playing at 5:00 Saturday and 8:00 Monday if we finish second.

BillyTKid
20-06-2016, 03:17 PM
Er no he wasn't he was in charge at WC.

Capello left just before the Euros (over John Terry) and Roy stepped in last minute. He then had Hart hitting long balls at Carroll.

andyocpfc
20-06-2016, 03:23 PM
The chances of us not qualifying now is remote (I would say) but resting players TWO games into a tournament is ridiculous, especially when they game game time together and continuity.

Baffled Bob 2
20-06-2016, 03:55 PM
Capello was awful but Roy was in charge at the last Euros.

For 3 weeks. Capello's team in my book

Latvian Eagle
20-06-2016, 04:03 PM
Forster has been better than Hart for ages. Woy just won't drop Hart. Stuck by him a few times now.

bald-eagle
20-06-2016, 04:04 PM
Personally, I've no problem with rotating the midfield and forwards as you have said.

I do however feel that the back four can only benefit from playing another game with each other, and I would leave that be.

this ^^

Eaglefoz
20-06-2016, 04:27 PM
Good luck England!

Johnnieboy
20-06-2016, 04:32 PM
We can still finish third, in which case we play at 8pm on Saturday (probably against Spain)

Mr Palace
20-06-2016, 04:32 PM
It's a high risk strategy of he does make so many changes. I'd prefer to see the same team apart from Sturridge in for Sterling. I'm not sure why we need to rest so many players but he must know the fitness levels - if that is why he's making the changes.

We need to win this group whatever happens. Don't fancy the route onwards if we finish second or third...

RazorsEdge
20-06-2016, 04:41 PM
Good luck England.

waddoneagle
20-06-2016, 04:47 PM
COYE

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13442149_1141631542566314_1315161007572660269_n.jp g?oh=d0b4a629a0ab555c09a215481cd24e49&oe=57D72B96

RazorsEdge
20-06-2016, 05:01 PM
COYE

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13442149_1141631542566314_1315161007572660269_n.jp g?oh=d0b4a629a0ab555c09a215481cd24e49&oe=57D72B96

:lux:

dan27
20-06-2016, 05:20 PM
If we win the group then we should avoid Spain until the semi finals and Germany and France until the final. Assuming that Spain and Germany top their groups which I am sure they will.

New LP
20-06-2016, 05:28 PM
The chances of us not qualifying now is remote (I would say) but resting players TWO games into a tournament is ridiculous, especially when they game game time together and continuity.

The difference between winning the group and not doing so can be vital. You'd think we'd learn from past tournaments.

Stellavista
20-06-2016, 05:51 PM
If we win the group then we should avoid Spain until the semi finals and Germany and France until the final. Assuming that Spain and Germany top their groups which I am sure they will.

We've got to play Germany AND France in the final? That seems a bit unfair.

Timbo
20-06-2016, 05:56 PM
How long til ko

RobertCPFC
20-06-2016, 05:59 PM
How long til ko

One hour

RobertCPFC
20-06-2016, 05:59 PM
England: Hart, Clyne, Cahill, Smalling, Bertrand, Dier, Henderson, Wilshere, Lallana, Sturridge, Vardy.
Slovakia: Kozáčik, Hubočan, Pekarík, Ďurica, Škrtel, Kucka, Pečovský, Hamšík, Weiss, Mak, Duda.

dan27
20-06-2016, 06:02 PM
We've got to play Germany AND France in the final? That seems a bit unfair.

Only if we win the group ;)

Timbo
20-06-2016, 06:04 PM
One hour

Thx man, I hav timezone appreciation problems

TheMexicanHorse
20-06-2016, 06:22 PM
Proud moment for the academy with Nate dog starting for his country.

Remember when he made his debut it was such a shock he wasn't even listed on the back of the programme! Just shows the benefit of staying and playing football (hello bostock)

Ruskin Old Boy
20-06-2016, 06:25 PM
We've got to play Germany AND France in the final? That seems a bit unfair.

Only if we vote exit

TheMexicanHorse
20-06-2016, 06:27 PM
Proud moment for the academy with Nate dog starting for his country.

Remember when he made his debut it was such a shock he wasn't even listed on the back of the programme! Just shows the benefit of staying and playing football (hello bostock)

Also remember, when we went into admin, he could have gone to Wolves, but he decided to stay.:p

GreatGonzo
20-06-2016, 06:28 PM
Albania, Northern Ireland, Czech Republic and Turkey are the possibilities if we win tonight and win the group.

Finish 2nd/3rd and it could be Portugal, Germany, Spain etc.

RobertCPFC
20-06-2016, 06:28 PM
It is a risk to make these changes but I think it worth taking. While we have not won the group it does give people game time when they it could be necessary later on in the tournament. It also rewards Vardy and Sturridge after Thursdays performances.

If Hodgon has got this right by 10:00 we will be saying what a great decision it was.

Joooe
20-06-2016, 06:41 PM
These changes have given me a bad feeling tbh. I'd have kept most of the same team (but with Vardy/Sturridge) to get some momentum.

Hopefully I'm completely wrong though, as I usually am. C'mon England. :lux:

Malarkey
20-06-2016, 06:52 PM
I'd have still played our best player, Rooney.

RazorsEdge
20-06-2016, 06:52 PM
If we come second, we may have a chance to play Portugal......

RazorsEdge
20-06-2016, 06:53 PM
Albania, Northern Ireland, Czech Republic and Turkey are the possibilities if we win tonight and win the group.

Finish 2nd/3rd and it could be Portugal, Germany, Spain etc.

Albania please haha

GreatGonzo
20-06-2016, 06:57 PM
Albania please haha

Nah we want NI so that they play God Save the Queen twice lol

danpalace07
20-06-2016, 07:02 PM
That Southampton goalie can't be much good if he can't dislodge Hart

Hart is a great keeper

Pubface
20-06-2016, 07:05 PM
Played Clyne

FORZA SELHURST
20-06-2016, 07:08 PM
We should've nobbled Hamsik & Weiss by now. You get away with it early I think.

danpalace07
20-06-2016, 07:09 PM
early prediction Wilshere will be MOTM

or Lallana

kabbott
20-06-2016, 07:11 PM
Wales go top of the group! :eek:

Justin Beaver
20-06-2016, 07:13 PM
I couldn't hear what the fans were chanting. Was it "Jamie Vardy's having a party" or "Roy Hodgson's red and white army"?

danpalace07
20-06-2016, 07:14 PM
I couldn't hear what the fans were chanting. Was it "Jamie Vardy's having a party" or "Roy Hodgson's red and white army"?

first one

Justin Beaver
20-06-2016, 07:14 PM
first one

I see, good. Tweet someone to start the second one lol :D

danpalace07
20-06-2016, 07:17 PM
We're looking dangerous

Golf Boy
20-06-2016, 07:17 PM
Hart is a great keeper

If you ignore all the unforced errors he makes then you are right.

Malarkey
20-06-2016, 07:20 PM
Hope we don't miss out on top because Woy got cocky

danpalace07
20-06-2016, 07:20 PM
If you ignore all the unforced errors he makes then you are right.

You could also ignore all the great saves if you want plus him still being at City while they look to win everything

EagleSE24
20-06-2016, 07:21 PM
Russia given up.

RobertCPFC
20-06-2016, 07:22 PM
Wales 2-0

We need to win

SeanPalace84
20-06-2016, 07:22 PM
Hope we don't miss out on top because Woy got cocky

He just listened to the media like the other yes men managers.

maestro
20-06-2016, 07:22 PM
Sturridge looks a bit lost out there

Golf Boy
20-06-2016, 07:23 PM
You could also ignore all the great saves if you want plus him still being at City while they look to win everything

Did they make 4th place in the end?

RazorsEdge
20-06-2016, 07:25 PM
Nah we want NI so that they play God Save the Queen twice lol

Oh yes, I didn't think of that haha:lux:

RazorsEdge
20-06-2016, 07:25 PM
Sturridge looks a bit lost out there

He is in the wrong side of the pitch. Woy can be a genius sometimes :(

Latvian Eagle
20-06-2016, 07:25 PM
Forsteris a better keeper. Hart is in there on reputation and club. If it was on form it would be FF.

Bluewater eagle
20-06-2016, 07:26 PM
Got a bad feeling about this.

RazorsEdge
20-06-2016, 07:26 PM
Russia given up.

Drug supply run out maybe????

bubbs11
20-06-2016, 07:28 PM
Hennessey just dropped a cross.

Just saying....

Justin Beaver
20-06-2016, 07:28 PM
Drug supply run out maybe????

I blame vodka.

Golf Boy
20-06-2016, 07:29 PM
Hendersen. Why is he out there?

Pubface
20-06-2016, 07:29 PM
Clyne playing well!

SeanPalace84
20-06-2016, 07:30 PM
Love how everyone slates Rooney but he is much needed in this team.

LLCOOLSTEVE
20-06-2016, 07:31 PM
Love how everyone slates Rooney but he is much needed in this team.

I like Rooney but cant see what has made you say that based on this performance...

Golf Boy
20-06-2016, 07:31 PM
Is it just me but Clyne is better than Walker.

ExCroydon_CPFC
20-06-2016, 07:31 PM
Love how everyone slates Rooney but he is much needed in this team.

Agree, would like to see him come on for Henderson and start dictating play in the middle

LLCOOLSTEVE
20-06-2016, 07:32 PM
ffs Sturridge

Joe85
20-06-2016, 07:32 PM
Hendersen. Why is he out there?



http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160620/2d31abd5a5d3afd6970bacaf9064e074.jpg

LLCOOLSTEVE
20-06-2016, 07:32 PM
oooooooosh

GB2506
20-06-2016, 07:32 PM
Is it just me but Clyne is better than Walker.

I don't think there is anything between them. Walker has been superb the last 2 games and Clyne is playing very well tonight.

danpalace07
20-06-2016, 07:33 PM
Matter of time, I think

LLCOOLSTEVE
20-06-2016, 07:33 PM
Hendersen. Why is he out there?

He has played well so far, linking up v well with Clyne

Terrace Bickle
20-06-2016, 07:33 PM
I know he scored a winner, but I really don't like Sturridge.

Zulu84
20-06-2016, 07:33 PM
Hennessey just dropped a cross.

Just saying....

Yea, after making a really good save on a one on one....but let's forget that :rolleyes:

kabbott
20-06-2016, 07:33 PM
Clyne's playing a blinder!

maestro
20-06-2016, 07:33 PM
I think Henderson has been watching our corner delivery!

Pubface
20-06-2016, 07:34 PM
Henderson is shocking.

GB2506
20-06-2016, 07:34 PM
Henderson on set pieces, is that the best we have out there tonight?

EagleSE24
20-06-2016, 07:34 PM
Henderson alternates a great pass with a completely shite one.

Latvian Eagle
20-06-2016, 07:35 PM
Surely we could have got some burgundy base layers. Looks stupid with burgundy sleeves then bright red sticking out the bottom like Lallana.

Justin Beaver
20-06-2016, 07:35 PM
Is Joe Hart's hairline receding?

ExCroydon_CPFC
20-06-2016, 07:35 PM
Surely just a matter of time before we score

Vince Hilaire's Afro
20-06-2016, 07:35 PM
Nice fast paced stuff from England, not the usual tournament plodding

SeanPalace84
20-06-2016, 07:35 PM
Clyne's playing a blinder!

He really is! Looks very comfortable.

chav_hater
20-06-2016, 07:36 PM
Wilshere is the single most overrated player of the last decade or so.

GB2506
20-06-2016, 07:36 PM
Our shooting is abysmal. Some great build up play but the shooting is woeful!

Golf Boy
20-06-2016, 07:36 PM
Wilshire rooney dier midfield if i was boss.

RazorsEdge
20-06-2016, 07:36 PM
Is Joe Hart's hairline receding?

It is all that free head and shoulders he is getting :)

Latvian Eagle
20-06-2016, 07:36 PM
Is Joe Hart's hairline receding?

Bang goes that sponsorship deal.

RazorsEdge
20-06-2016, 07:36 PM
Wilshere is the single most overrated player of the last decade or so.

Agree

SeanPalace84
20-06-2016, 07:36 PM
Good refereeing there! Take note Clattenburg!

Golf Boy
20-06-2016, 07:37 PM
Wilshere is the single most overrated player of the last decade or so.

He's a good player. Made of glass. Ten times the player hendersen is.

RazorsEdge
20-06-2016, 07:37 PM
Good refereeing there! Take note Clattenburg!

We need to send that clip to Clattenburg so he remembers :p

Aki Aki Aki
20-06-2016, 07:37 PM
Woy's love of Liverpool is not funny. How can Henderson play ahead of a talent like Barkley:wallbash: ?

LLCOOLSTEVE
20-06-2016, 07:38 PM
right foot Sturridge ffs

danpalace07
20-06-2016, 07:38 PM
Wilshere is the single most overrated player of the last decade or so.

Bin

maestro
20-06-2016, 07:39 PM
Bertrand been poor

OLD BASING EAGLE
20-06-2016, 07:39 PM
Clyne has been fantastic.

Santos-er
20-06-2016, 07:40 PM
I don't think there is anything between them. Walker has been superb the last 2 games and Clyne is playing very well tonight.

Why Walker was good against Wales? No defending to do, didn't find an England shirt with a single cross.

The sole justification for anyone thinking he was good seems to be that he was faster than Neil Taylor.

CT_Palace
20-06-2016, 07:40 PM
That's 4 terrible corners I've seen.
Henderson has got to get it passed the first man ffs

ExCroydon_CPFC
20-06-2016, 07:41 PM
Clyne has been fantastic.

Been really good, keep this up and he will be pushing for a starting position next game.

SeanPalace84
20-06-2016, 07:42 PM
Coming top changes everything! Don't think Woy understood this when changing the whole ******* team.

RazorsEdge
20-06-2016, 07:42 PM
Fans are booing???

Golf Boy
20-06-2016, 07:42 PM
How is that not yellow on Vardy?

Golf Boy
20-06-2016, 07:42 PM
**** off Hendersen!

Zulu84
20-06-2016, 07:42 PM
FFS Henderson

CT_Palace
20-06-2016, 07:43 PM
Fans are booing???

How many lateral passes do you want to see?

maestro
20-06-2016, 07:43 PM
Who are we likely to play if we come 2nd?

Sleeping Giant
20-06-2016, 07:43 PM
Mr Hodgson used to be Head of the sports dept at my school (while I was there) and he is managing England like he still is by not bothering with a proper wide alternative to Sterling.

Andy in Rome
20-06-2016, 07:43 PM
Bertrand, Henderson and Wilshire all disappointing right now.

ExCroydon_CPFC
20-06-2016, 07:43 PM
Just need to keep this up and keep pressing. Slovakia are a really negative team, perhaps time for rashford and Kane to come on so we can blitz them.

Aki Aki Aki
20-06-2016, 07:43 PM
Henderson ???????

Terrace Bickle
20-06-2016, 07:43 PM
No more Henderson set pieces please.

1905
20-06-2016, 07:44 PM
Henderson is shocking

GB2506
20-06-2016, 07:44 PM
Why Walker was good against Wales? No defending to do, didn't find an England shirt with a single cross.

The sole justification for anyone thinking he was good seems to be that he was faster than Neil Taylor.

He had no defending to do as he was pinning Neil Taylor back with his attacking play. That means he was having a very good game. Yes crossing could improve but crossing in the whole tournament has been pretty woeful.

Golf Boy
20-06-2016, 07:44 PM
Get clyne on corners

RazorsEdge
20-06-2016, 07:44 PM
How many lateral passes do you want to see?

I see your point.

Zulu84
20-06-2016, 07:45 PM
How many minutes of football have Henderson and Wilshire played in the last 6 months.... Because it doesn't show at all....

RazorsEdge
20-06-2016, 07:45 PM
Who are we likely to play if we come 2nd?

Germany/Spain.....

Joe85
20-06-2016, 07:45 PM
Wilshere has been ******* dreadful

Golf Boy
20-06-2016, 07:45 PM
Great attitude from Vardy.

GB2506
20-06-2016, 07:45 PM
Fans are booing???

The Slovakian fans were whistling and booing the England possession.

GB2506
20-06-2016, 07:46 PM
Another good half......no goals. Shooting boots left in England.

ebyeeckeagle
20-06-2016, 07:46 PM
Germany/Spain.....

That's third place.

cantspell
20-06-2016, 07:47 PM
I thought England played well in the first half

Heb 7:4
20-06-2016, 07:47 PM
What a great half of football

Joooe
20-06-2016, 07:47 PM
So good to see Clyne playing like this.

RazorsEdge
20-06-2016, 07:47 PM
The Slovakian fans were whistling and booing the England possession.

oh ok, I thought it was our fans.

danpalace07
20-06-2016, 07:47 PM
I wonder how much it'd cost to blow up Selhurst, airlift this St Etienne stadium with some **** off helicopters and drop it in SE25?

it's well decent

oh, England have been decent but it feels like the Russia match right now.

RazorsEdge
20-06-2016, 07:48 PM
That's third place.

Sorry blonde moment :(

LLCOOLSTEVE
20-06-2016, 07:49 PM
have played well

Les Butler
20-06-2016, 07:49 PM
Dunno about this a draw at the mo is no good for Slovakia and we seem to not know how to beak a team down, okay had the odd shot but were missing something.

danpalace07
20-06-2016, 07:49 PM
this Slovakia side is like watching West Brom when we did em at Selhurst. Get rid of the small countries I reckon if they're all going to park the bus

kabbott
20-06-2016, 07:49 PM
Good to watch, just lacking a bit of composure in and around the box.
We might need to bring Kane on for the corners though! :D

Jon_C-Pal
20-06-2016, 07:50 PM
Wilshere is ******* crap. Completely out of his depth. Roy decision to take him was a travesty, had nowhere near enough minutes under his belt to have been of any use ffs. One of the most overated players around right now.

kabbott
20-06-2016, 07:50 PM
I wonder how much it'd cost to blow up Selhurst, airlift this St Etienne stadium with some **** off helicopters and drop it in SE25?



Lyon's stadium is better! :p

Nostrils
20-06-2016, 07:50 PM
Wilshere is ******* crap. Completely out of his depth. Roy decision to take him was a travesty, had nowhere near enough minutes under his belt to have been of any use ffs. One of the most overated players around right now.

Started off well, then forgot how to play football.

RobertCPFC
20-06-2016, 07:51 PM
Played well and if we carry on like this we will win.

THB
20-06-2016, 07:51 PM
Germany/Spain.....

Um... no.

Probably Hungary.

cappuccinoeagle
20-06-2016, 07:52 PM
Hoddles co commentary offers very little,Dowie has been the best commentator on ITV

Worksop Palace
20-06-2016, 07:52 PM
Played well and if we carry on like this we will win.

Really ?

Laboured. At best

Malarkey
20-06-2016, 07:53 PM
Poland I reckon

RazorsEdge
20-06-2016, 07:53 PM
Blic's analysis is quite good.

karl.eldridge
20-06-2016, 07:54 PM
Wilshere is ******* crap. Completely out of his depth. Roy decision to take him was a travesty, had nowhere near enough minutes under his belt to have been of any use ffs. One of the most overated players around right now.

Keeps losing the ball.

Bring on Alli or Barkley.

kabbott
20-06-2016, 07:54 PM
Really ?

Laboured. At best

Seriously? We've done everything except score!

RobertCPFC
20-06-2016, 07:54 PM
Really ?

Laboured. At best

We have dominated and had the better chances.

orp pisshead1
20-06-2016, 07:55 PM
Really ?

Laboured. At best

No it's not they're defending in numbers and we're piling on the pressure, Clyne playing well but the saints lad offers nothing going forward and looks poor defensively.

orp pisshead1
20-06-2016, 07:56 PM
We have dominated and had the better chances.

Exactly :p.

Shipp Ahoy!
20-06-2016, 07:57 PM
Keeps losing the ball.

Bring on Alli or Barkley.

This this this.

Then Rooney for Hendroneson.

Stavros 69
20-06-2016, 07:59 PM
Clyne is class

Jon_C-Pal
20-06-2016, 07:59 PM
Keeps losing the ball.

Bring on Alli or Barkley.

I'd even rather see Rooney in his position. Looks like a little kid playing with a bunch of men. Somebody like Alli needs to run at this back four.

karl.eldridge
20-06-2016, 08:00 PM
Also Clyne is the best RB I have ever seen at Palace. He has been excellent tonight.

Stavros 69
20-06-2016, 08:00 PM
Dier is class

karl.eldridge
20-06-2016, 08:01 PM
I'd even rather see Rooney in his position. Looks like a little kid playing with a bunch of men. Somebody like Alli needs to run at this back four.

I was thinking Rooney but then would prefer if we changed to midfield diamond.

-----------Dier----------
---Henderson---Lallana
-----------Alli----------

Stavros 69
20-06-2016, 08:02 PM
I was thinking Rooney but then would prefer if we changed to midfield diamond.

-----------Dier----------
---Henderson---Lallana
-----------Alli----------

Diamonds just don't work.
We need wingers

Stavros 69
20-06-2016, 08:02 PM
Bring Barkley on for Henderrrrrrrson

danpalace07
20-06-2016, 08:05 PM
Clyne :love:

GB2506
20-06-2016, 08:07 PM
Sturridge slowing the play down when Bertrand was open!

CT_Palace
20-06-2016, 08:07 PM
How many times is Wilshire going to lose the ball with his useless flick/control attempts??

Joe85
20-06-2016, 08:07 PM
We look flat, get fat boy an Alli on.

dim
20-06-2016, 08:07 PM
Don't half miss Welbeck.

Stavros 69
20-06-2016, 08:08 PM
Don't half miss Welbeck.

Never thought I'd ever see that post

maestro
20-06-2016, 08:08 PM
Bertrand needs subbing

RazorsEdge
20-06-2016, 08:08 PM
Clyne :love:

Haha

SeanPalace84
20-06-2016, 08:08 PM
What the ****

GB2506
20-06-2016, 08:08 PM
Jesus Christ!!!!

Stavros 69
20-06-2016, 08:08 PM
Bertrand needs subbing

Yep

ExCroydon_CPFC
20-06-2016, 08:09 PM
Smalling!!

RazorsEdge
20-06-2016, 08:09 PM
What if we loose this game as Slovakia for me seems like will score.....

GB2506
20-06-2016, 08:09 PM
Score FFS you muppets!!!!

ExCroydon_CPFC
20-06-2016, 08:09 PM
Clyne having a stormer!

SeanPalace84
20-06-2016, 08:09 PM
Clyne is playing brilliant.

Terrace Bickle
20-06-2016, 08:09 PM
Surely Clyne should retain his place.

Joe85
20-06-2016, 08:09 PM
I was thinking to myself that the whole Smalling love in before the game was bound to end in tears. Nearly.

GB2506
20-06-2016, 08:10 PM
I have zero confidence in Joe Hart

bubbs11
20-06-2016, 08:10 PM
Is it me or is Smalling massively over rated?

Someone said before this game on the box, he was one of the top 3 centre backs in the world.....?????

RickyB
20-06-2016, 08:10 PM
Nathe is looking amazing. We knew, didn't we? Was sure he would play for England - but how?! :)

danpalace07
20-06-2016, 08:10 PM
Surely Clyne should retain his place.

happy with either tbh

Bertrand needs to do one though

ExCroydon_CPFC
20-06-2016, 08:10 PM
Bertrand needs subbing

Been poor. Shame we our 2 best full backs are right backs!

maestro
20-06-2016, 08:11 PM
No width its eye of the needle stuff

Malarkey
20-06-2016, 08:11 PM
Henderson...why

SeanPalace84
20-06-2016, 08:11 PM
This is frustrating beyond believe...ffs England...bring Rooney on

Joe85
20-06-2016, 08:11 PM
Get Betrand off the ******* pitch.

kabbott
20-06-2016, 08:11 PM
PHEW!

Les Butler
20-06-2016, 08:11 PM
I have zero confidence in Joe Hart

He is not the cocky Joe Hart of yesteryear thats for sure.

CT_Palace
20-06-2016, 08:11 PM
What lightening counter attack that was from England.
******* useless.

Malarkey
20-06-2016, 08:11 PM
Why not Henderson off for Rooney

Stavros 69
20-06-2016, 08:12 PM
The moment this tourno is over we should drop Hart for Buckland

ExCroydon_CPFC
20-06-2016, 08:12 PM
Good sub, reckon Rooney will be the difference now ...

THB
20-06-2016, 08:12 PM
if only there were 11 clynes.

RickyB
20-06-2016, 08:12 PM
Wilshere off at last. Pony.

PalaceForever
20-06-2016, 08:12 PM
This back 4 and Hart will get found out when we meet someone decent. Just not convincing (mainly Smalling/Cahill, I like the full backs)

Correct decision to bring off Wilshere, he has been really poor.

ExCroydon_CPFC
20-06-2016, 08:12 PM
He is not the cocky Joe Hart of yesteryear thats for sure.

Good stop from Hart, that shop could've sneaked under but he did well

Les Butler
20-06-2016, 08:12 PM
Got the Wales game on the small TV ...They should be 4 up.

GB2506
20-06-2016, 08:12 PM
All these missed chances are going to bite us in the ass. Should have put Russia to bed and we should be out of sight in this game but can't put the ball in the ******* net.

Stavros 69
20-06-2016, 08:13 PM
Shutting up shop already?

RazorsEdge
20-06-2016, 08:13 PM
Looney is in

GB2506
20-06-2016, 08:13 PM
The moment this tourno is over we should drop Hart for Buckland

What's Forster got to do to get a chance. Been class for saints.

maestro
20-06-2016, 08:13 PM
I really don't get lallana, no pace, doesn't score, just endless little turns

Stavros 69
20-06-2016, 08:15 PM
What's Forster got to do to get a chance. Been class for saints.

Buckland is a better all round keeper

Malarkey
20-06-2016, 08:15 PM
Everything being overhit

GB2506
20-06-2016, 08:15 PM
I really don't get lallana, no pace, doesn't score, just endless little turns

He's been good in all 3 games. Gets into pockets of space, causes problems for defenders. Like the rest of our team he needs to improve on his finishing.

Golf Boy
20-06-2016, 08:15 PM
Why the **** isn't sturridge up front with Vardy?

danpalace07
20-06-2016, 08:15 PM
Buckland is a better all round keeper

Butland ffs

Malarkey
20-06-2016, 08:15 PM
overhit again

GB2506
20-06-2016, 08:16 PM
Another shocking Henderson cross

bubbs11
20-06-2016, 08:16 PM
This back 4 and Hart will get found out when we meet someone decent. Just not convincing (mainly Smalling/Cahill, I like the full backs)



With bells on. We've played 3 teams that have very rarely put us on the back foot. Think a Germany or Spain could embarrass us.

Terrace Bickle
20-06-2016, 08:16 PM
The crossing is ******* shocking.

danpalace07
20-06-2016, 08:16 PM
Alli out wide then?

philsick
20-06-2016, 08:16 PM
Everything being overhit

Wayne hoofy

Zulu84
20-06-2016, 08:16 PM
Henderson :wallbash:

Malarkey
20-06-2016, 08:16 PM
Henderson stays on then

SeanPalace84
20-06-2016, 08:16 PM
Hodgson ******* backtracking again. 2 players that started last week on now. Could he not see Rooney and Alli should have started.

Nostrils
20-06-2016, 08:16 PM
Stop over-hitting crosses and someone might get on the end of it.

RobertCPFC
20-06-2016, 08:16 PM
Deli Alli on

Wycombe Eagle#2
20-06-2016, 08:17 PM
Why Lalanna his had a good game. Sturridge should've be been dragged off

JackTheBiscuit
20-06-2016, 08:17 PM
I really don't get lallana, no pace, doesn't score, just endless little turns

And a horrible mouthy little **** as well. I find most of these players so difficult to warm to

Malarkey
20-06-2016, 08:17 PM
ffs

GB2506
20-06-2016, 08:17 PM
FFS!!! How many more!!!!!

RobertCPFC
20-06-2016, 08:17 PM
Almost a great start

Les Butler
20-06-2016, 08:17 PM
FFS Jeeeeeez !!!!

danpalace07
20-06-2016, 08:17 PM
what a block. Great ball as well from henderson

Golf Boy
20-06-2016, 08:18 PM
Why Lalanna his had a good game. Sturridge should've be been dragged off

Lallana is shit

LLCOOLSTEVE
20-06-2016, 08:18 PM
And a horrible mouthy little **** as well. I find most of these players so difficult to warm to

Met him then have you?

CT_Palace
20-06-2016, 08:18 PM
England shooting unerringly straight at the opposition players....