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RobertCPFC
26-01-2017, 10:55 PM
For Christmas I was given all of the home programmes from the 1965/66 season. On Tuesday I read the one from the final day against Carlisle. Football programmes have changed a lot of the years and and these could be fitted in your coat pocket unlike the 80 page version you get now. I was also given from someone else a programme from March 1975 and that had many changes.

I saw some names I recognised including John Jackson, David Payne and Steve Kember and other players I had not known about before. Bert Head arrived as manager in the later part of the season.

It was funny to look at some of the adverts to see how things have changed including getting 10 off a new car if you showed them the programme before the end of the season.

Some things seemed to be rather different (as I expected) therefore I have a few questions about Palace around that time and you can also tell me about any personal experiences. I know that some questions do sound a bit silly but I'm just interested to know a bit more.

Firstly, in the programme for the opening home game there is a comment from Arthur Wait and the club getting permission for a new covered stand in Park Road. Was the Crystal Palace Football Club Building Fund (adverted at the start of ever programme) part of the stands fundraising or was that for a different part of the ground?

In a lot of the early season programmes they asked schoolboys not to throw toilet rolls on the pitch. Did anyone on here do that and if so why?

I noticed a page in every programme was given to the supporters club where they talked about different things they were doing for the club including the club shop and raffles. Apart from what I have mentioned how different were they from the supporters trust we have today?

I noticed that coach travel would sometimes leave late on a Friday night ahead of a Saturday game. Why did that happen as now they would just go early on the Saturday?

In many programmes they advertised a weekend trip trip to Great Yarmouth for an away match against Norwich leaving on Friday evening and returning on Sunday afternoon. Was this an annual event and if anyone did go on a weekend away (in any season) with Palace what was it like? I got the impression that they choose somewhere different every season.

Over the Easter weekend we played three games. Home on Good Friday and Saturday and away on Easter Monday. Did we always around that time of the season play three games in four days? Managers would go mad if they happened now. In that season the only thing they didn't like was how much travelling was involved in such a short space of time.

There seemed to be a bigger mention of reserve games compared to the currently under 23 league equivalent. Did these games get big crowds when Palace were away and did they always happen on Saturday afternoons, or was it just a short term thing?

As we went out of the F.A Cup in round 3 (a 3-0 defeat away at Carlisle) they arranged a friendly against Nottingham Forest. Was this a regular thing most teams did or more likely a one off because it suited both clubs?

Lastly did anyone shop in Brake Bros in Croydon? It was the back page advert on every programme.

You don't have to answer all questions and if you know about other season you can tell me about that as well. The first game I went to was in November 2003 so I don't know that much about going to watch Palace before then but would be interest to find out more. If you know of any good websites you can post them on here.

If anyone is interested we finished the season in 11th.

Thanks

Dorking .Eagle
27-01-2017, 06:37 AM
I don't feel too qualified to answer many of these as I wasn't alive at the time, but I have read loads of old stuff about Palace so I can confirm that long distance coach trips did often leave late on the Friday night, particularly ones like to Torquay in the old Div 3 South (1950s). Part of the reason was that there weren't motorways back in those days, so journeys would take a lot longer as than these days, and at least going through the night the driver could get there as quick the old coach would allow (the vehicles were not 70mph powerful units like coaches are today). I have read supporter reminisces where people would have to hang around for a few hours after a game, before the coach left from some pick up place, so would try to find some pub or similar.

Great questions though and really positive that a 'younger' fan is interested in this sort of social history of the club. Look forward to reading other fans recollections and responses.

Dorking .Eagle
27-01-2017, 06:44 AM
This is from the 50-51 'Official Annual' in a piece entitled 'The True Supporter'

"To every away match during the season goes a watchmaker who admits: "Its my whole life. I spend the Summer wishing the football season here again and each winter week seems to drag from Saturday to Saturday."
"The fixture at Torquay is one of his favourites. It means a whole week-end away from home, watching, thinking and talking Crystal Palace."

N Herts Eagle
27-01-2017, 07:30 AM
So many questions and I could spend hours answering them all.....but I only have a short time available before the rest of the house wakes up. So I will take only a few.

Toilet Rolls it was part of the culture back then we scored and they would come raining down from the Holmesdale and less so the Whitehorse. Why I dont know but every public toilet would be minus a toilet roll come Saturday. It was across all football grounds not Selhurst only .No I never did personally.

Reserve games those were the days of the Football Combination league I think. When reserve games did attract crowds. I went to a few and maybe you see one of the stars either on a comeback from injury or one who had been dropped plus a few youngsters play against if you were lucky a top flight team reserves. It killed a Saturday afternoon and you got to know what was happening with the first team. They had quite a following some top teams drew thousands. Youth had its own league the South East Counties. To be fair I am guessing there are a few more on here that went more than me. As soon as I could I was travelling to away games.

Supporters Club big place .bar, sandwich or rolls, organised loads, dances. It was in the Sainsburys car park which we owned before it was sold off. Small shop selling not a lot of merchandise. I never owned a shirt back in those days for instance. There was a committee and it organised travel to away games, Occasionally see the players in there it was a big thing back then. Nothing like the trust it was tied into the club run by fans. I am not sure of the tie in on the legal side but I do recall the row with AJ Wait where he pulled the clubs support for the Supporters Club and it meant all official coaches to Birmingham I think were stopped on the Saturday morning from leaving because of insurance issues.

Easter the joy of football fans three games in 4 days if you were fighting for promotion what a nightmare see our promotion in 69 it was virtually settled over that Easter . However you forget that games kicked off a different times it was easy say to see two games in London on the same day and possible sometimes to see three. Forget Sky adverts Easter was the feast of football......

We played a few friendlies if knocked out of the Cup it was normal practice....if no games were being rearranged no break for the players

LONDONMAN
27-01-2017, 07:44 AM
I started going to matches in 1970 and I was just 7 then, so I can't tell you exactly how things were in 1965/66, but a lot of things mentioned are quite familiar from my early memories of watching Palace.

Until about the 1968/69 season, the Main Stand (which was always called the 'Old Stand' in my memory was the only covered stand in the ground and as far as I know, there was only a bit of terracing (concrete steps) on the other three sides of the ground with large banks of grass behind the terracing.

I've heard plenty of stories of people just sliding down these banks when they became muddy - health and safety in those days was almost non-existent, you would have no problem taking in bottles (I often took in a half bottle of whisky until well into the 1980's -alcohol was only banned after the riots at Heysel and Luton in 1985).

Chucking whole toilet rolls onto the pitch (usually after a goal and often aimed at the opposition keeper) was a regular thing, the idea was to hold on to the paper after you threw the roll to make a huge trail and could get play stopped for a bit whilst it was cleared.

The building of the Arthur Wait Stand was a big step forward for Palace - supporters paid towards it (not sure if there was some sort of loan which meant fans got two or three years worth of season tickets?) - I can remember there was always a big hall near what is now the wall on the other side of the entrance to Sainsbury's - called the 'Social Club' which was a great meeting place for Palace fans before and after matches - there was a tiny club shop, hardly the size of a small front room with a narrow counter.

Like Dorking Eagle said before, travelling to matches was a long journey as the motorway system was only just taking shape in the 1960's and the coaches were not much fun either - so starting early and having a stop over was essential on any long haul trip.

Sea side towns like Blackpool, Torquay, Plymouth would be ideal for a weekend away.

Reserve matches were always a part of watching Palace back in the day, the crowds were not usually that big (around 500 people usually - but sometimes more depending if there some good players on show or another London team was playing - the league was called the Football Combination and was made up of all Southern teams as well as the London teams - Birmingham City were the only Midland team I remember.

LONDONMAN
27-01-2017, 08:10 AM
N Herts Eagle put it better than me - but another thing you don't often get now were plenty of postponed matches and also Cup replays.

Christmas and Easter often had two games in three days, sometimes our whole season hinged on those Easter games - you often got some strange results too!

Obviously I didn't go in 1963 (the year I was born) - but there was a huge fixture pile up that Easter due to the worst Winter in living memory with weeks of snow stopping many games in February and March.

Palace played 8 games in April that year and actually played three games in four days at one point - winning them all - which was just as well, because Palace were having a terrible season until the snow cane.
I think a similar thing happened also in 1969 - where Palace also had a long break because of postponed games - but came back for a long unbeaten run, which ended with Palace getting promotion to Division One (the equivalent of the Premier League) for the first time ever.

Dorking .Eagle
27-01-2017, 08:28 AM
The Combination was going until about 10 years ago, give me that over the current Development squad system we have now any day. I used to like taking an afternoon off work and seeing home games at Plough Lane or Tooting and Mitcham, and always did the away game at Aldershot's lovely ground.

Much better for the watching Palace fan than just loaning everyone out to Cambridge or Shrewsbury

Maiden Eagle
27-01-2017, 08:43 AM
N Herts Eagle put it better than me - but another thing you don't often get now were plenty of postponed matches and also Cup replays.

Christmas and Easter often had two games in three days, sometimes our whole season hinged on those Easter games - you often got some strange results too!

Obviously I didn't go in 1963 (the year I was born) - but there was a huge fixture pile up that Easter due to the worst Winter in living memory with weeks of snow stopping many games in February and March.

Palace played 8 games in April that year and actually played three games in four days at one point - winning them all - which was just as well, because Palace were having a terrible season until the snow cane.
I think a similar thing happened also in 1969 - where Palace also had a long break because of postponed games - but came back for a long unbeaten run, which ended with Palace getting promotion to Division One (the equivalent of the Premier League) for the first time ever.

I remember the year when we were sadly relegated from Div 1 (72/73), in the last 8 days of the season we played 4 games - Good Friday Leicester (H) 0-1, the next day Saturday Leeds (A) 0-4 and then Norwich (A) on the Tues after Easter, where we lost 2-1, to be relegated. Ironically, we went up to Man City and won 3-2 on the Saturday after.

And I think that was the norm for all teams - I pretty sure Norwich played Saturday and Easter Monday, before they played us !

A couple of years before, Leeds had to play Saturday and Easter Monday before they played Celtic, in the European Cup semi final (just a small crowd of 134,000 at Hampden Park for that one!!) on the Wednesday. Don Revie put out a reserve team at Derby for the Monday game to save them for the Celtic game, which doesn't appear unreasonable, but they were heavily criticised at the time and heavily fined by the FA.

How times have changed - I always want us to do well in the FA Cup, but even I want us to put a weakened team out against Man C tomorrow, because the B'Mouth game on Tuesday is far, far more important.

Jim Cannon
27-01-2017, 08:45 AM
Toilet rolls on the pitch! People used to chuck toilet rolls when a goal was scored and they would unroll like streamers. Check out old footage of games in 70s in particular it was a common site and looked great

casinocolin
27-01-2017, 09:46 AM
Palace played 8 games in April that year and actually played three games in four days at one point - winning them all - which was just as well, because Palace were having a terrible season until the snow cane.
I think a similar thing happened also in 1969 - where Palace also had a long break because of postponed games - but came back for a long unbeaten run, which ended with Palace getting promotion to Division One (the equivalent of the Premier League) for the first time ever.

Yes this was the first season I started going to games I used to go with my uncle and cousin in his ford Anglia, we did not lose in our last 16 games that season climbing from mid table to 2nd with a famous 1-0 victory at derby who were the champions that year and I believe unbeaten at home till then. It was a mid week game so no way of knowing the result to the following morning. I did a paper round in those days that helped with the costs of watching Palace and I can remember getting the papers and opening them up looking for the result and my delight at seeing we had won and dancing in the streets at about 7am in the morning, people must have thought I was mad. Also a great 3-2 win at home against Fulham I think we were losing 2-1 and we comeback to win with a John Sewell penalty, which confirmed our promotion for the very first time to the old 1st division. I think Charlton finished 3rd that season in those days with no play offs so they missed out thanks to us :lux:
Those were the days. Great times.

DARZET EAGLE
27-01-2017, 11:32 AM
For Christmas I was given all of the home programmes from the 1965/66 season. On Tuesday I read the one from the final day against Carlisle. Football programmes have changed a lot of the years and and these could be fitted in your coat pocket unlike the 80 page version you get now. I was also given from someone else a programme from March 1975 and that had many changes.

I saw some names I recognised including John Jackson, David Payne and Steve Kember and other players I had not known about before. Bert Head arrived as manager in the later part of the season.

It was funny to look at some of the adverts to see how things have changed including getting 10 off a new car if you showed them the programme before the end of the season.

Some things seemed to be rather different (as I expected) therefore I have a few questions about Palace around that time and you can also tell me about any personal experiences. I know that some questions do sound a bit silly but I'm just interested to know a bit more.

Firstly, in the programme for the opening home game there is a comment from Arthur Wait and the club getting permission for a new covered stand in Park Road. Was the Crystal Palace Football Club Building Fund (adverted at the start of ever programme) part of the stands fundraising or was that for a different part of the ground?

In a lot of the early season programmes they asked schoolboys not to throw toilet rolls on the pitch. Did anyone on here do that and if so why?

I noticed a page in every programme was given to the supporters club where they talked about different things they were doing for the club including the club shop and raffles. Apart from what I have mentioned how different were they from the supporters trust we have today?

I noticed that coach travel would sometimes leave late on a Friday night ahead of a Saturday game. Why did that happen as now they would just go early on the Saturday?

In many programmes they advertised a weekend trip trip to Great Yarmouth for an away match against Norwich leaving on Friday evening and returning on Sunday afternoon. Was this an annual event and if anyone did go on a weekend away (in any season) with Palace what was it like? I got the impression that they choose somewhere different every season.

Over the Easter weekend we played three games. Home on Good Friday and Saturday and away on Easter Monday. Did we always around that time of the season play three games in four days? Managers would go mad if they happened now. In that season the only thing they didn't like was how much travelling was involved in such a short space of time.

There seemed to be a bigger mention of reserve games compared to the currently under 23 league equivalent. Did these games get big crowds when Palace were away and did they always happen on Saturday afternoons, or was it just a short term thing?

As we went out of the F.A Cup in round 3 (a 3-0 defeat away at Carlisle) they arranged a friendly against Nottingham Forest. Was this a regular thing most teams did or more likely a one off because it suited both clubs?

Lastly did anyone shop in Brake Bros in Croydon? It was the back page advert on every programme.

You don't have to answer all questions and if you know about other season you can tell me about that as well. The first game I went to was in November 2003 so I don't know that much about going to watch Palace before then but would be interest to find out more. If you know of any good websites you can post them on here.

If anyone is interested we finished the season in 11th.

Thanks

Excellent post Robert, which brings back loads of memories for me having started going to Palace with my Dad in the late fifties. The 'Penny on the Ball' draw was great with 1p (old money)cost per ticket for a chance to win the matchball (only one ball per game then). I won the ball on one occasion despite huge odds against it with crowds often exceeding todays levels what glee! Also peanuts in shells were a halftime treat, when scores from other games were paraded around the ground on a board! A useful book you may wish to buy is ''Crystal Palace Football Club'' by our old historian The Reverand Nigel Sands.It covers all our history from 1905 until 1998 and has tons of pictures included. The ISBN Number is 0 7524 1544 1.

tamlamotowner
27-01-2017, 11:51 AM
I can remember the 65-66 season well. It was our second season after promotion to the old Second Division (equivalent to today's Championship). John Jackson was our regular goalkeeper then and that season heralded a new dawn for us as Dick Graham was replaced in the manager's seat by Bert Head.
One game I will always remember was a home League Cup tie against Grimsby Town (September 65), they were in the Third Division then, we were expected to trounce them but were beaten 1-0 by a slick and speedy team whose best player on the night (for me) was a man who eventually became a football legend, Graham Taylor (RIP).
Yes us kids threw bog rolls, we used them as a substitute for streamers, had to sneak one out of the house un-noticed on match days.

KYLIE MINEAGLE
27-01-2017, 12:48 PM
I used to go to school in Streatham and lived in Sydenham. We would wait for the bus crews to go to the canteen at the top of Crystal Palace parade and rummage through the little locker they had on the buses for their ticket rolls. Were better to throw than toilet rolls. Mind you being Palace you might have it on you for 3/4 games waiting for a goal to be scored. I remember the little square programmes and the hot dogs that cost 1/3d (6p) Once I scrounged enough money of my mates to buy one. We were standing on the banking on the Park road side I was about to take a bite when we scored. In the celebrations the dog shot out of the bun and rolled down the slope on to the terracing.

Back then there was no training ground so all training was done at SP .Fitness consisted of running round the pitch and up and down the terraces. When the team went road running for fitness Bert Head would follow in his Cortina to make sure no one was slacking.

Happy days.

big bad John
27-01-2017, 02:23 PM
I noticed that coach travel would sometimes leave late on a Friday night ahead of a Saturday game. Why did that happen as now they would just go early on the Saturday?

There seemed to be a bigger mention of reserve games compared to the currently under 23 league equivalent. Did these games get big crowds when Palace were away and did they always happen on Saturday afternoons, or was it just a short term thing?



For fixtures like Newcastle and Carlisle the coaches would leave Selhurst at midnight and arrive at the destination around about seven in the morning. Believe it or not Newcastle would have a welcoming committee consisting of a few of the local herberts waiting for the coaches. Most fans would spend the few hours before opening time wandering around, or finding a saturday morning picture house.

Combination games were not well attended although I do remember in our promotion season of 68-69 we had a large crowd for one match when we put out a first eleven.So many games were postponed that the arsenal v spurs reserve match was on match of the Day. Vaguely recall that the attendance might have been as much as 30,000.

RobertCPFC
27-01-2017, 03:31 PM
So many questions and I could spend hours answering them all.....but I only have a short time available before the rest of the house wakes up. So I will take only a few.

Toilet Rolls it was part of the culture back then we scored and they would come raining down from the Holmesdale and less so the Whitehorse. Why I dont know but every public toilet would be minus a toilet roll come Saturday. It was across all football grounds not Selhurst only .No I never did personally.

Reserve games those were the days of the Football Combination league I think. When reserve games did attract crowds. I went to a few and maybe you see one of the stars either on a comeback from injury or one who had been dropped plus a few youngsters play against if you were lucky a top flight team reserves. It killed a Saturday afternoon and you got to know what was happening with the first team. They had quite a following some top teams drew thousands. Youth had its own league the South East Counties. To be fair I am guessing there are a few more on here that went more than me. As soon as I could I was travelling to away games.

Supporters Club big place .bar, sandwich or rolls, organised loads, dances. It was in the Sainsburys car park which we owned before it was sold off. Small shop selling not a lot of merchandise. I never owned a shirt back in those days for instance. There was a committee and it organised travel to away games, Occasionally see the players in there it was a big thing back then. Nothing like the trust it was tied into the club run by fans. I am not sure of the tie in on the legal side but I do recall the row with AJ Wait where he pulled the clubs support for the Supporters Club and it meant all official coaches to Birmingham I think were stopped on the Saturday morning from leaving because of insurance issues.

Easter the joy of football fans three games in 4 days if you were fighting for promotion what a nightmare see our promotion in 69 it was virtually settled over that Easter . However you forget that games kicked off a different times it was easy say to see two games in London on the same day and possible sometimes to see three. Forget Sky adverts Easter was the feast of football......

We played a few friendlies if knocked out of the Cup it was normal practice....if no games were being rearranged no break for the players

I noticed they would often include the youth team leagues and on the first page would mention upcoming games at Selhurst Park. The under 17s made the league cup final that season paying Spurs over two legs and they encouraging people to attend.

The supporters club did more than I realised. I saw they included insurance for anyone who was going to away games that way. I had also assumed it was completely separate from the club.

I would like it if they made more games over Easter. Happening at the stage of the season where the leagues are starting to get decided they would do a minimum two games as is the case in the lower leagues. I would have liked to go to a game on Good Friday and then again on the Saturday.

RobertCPFC
27-01-2017, 03:38 PM
The Combination was going until about 10 years ago, give me that over the current Development squad system we have now any day. I used to like taking an afternoon off work and seeing home games at Plough Lane or Tooting and Mitcham, and always did the away game at Aldershot's lovely ground.

Much better for the watching Palace fan than just loaning everyone out to Cambridge or Shrewsbury

I know they did a few games in the later years at Bromley's ground. I have always hear positive things about it and sounds much better than what we have now.

RobertCPFC
27-01-2017, 03:42 PM
Excellent post Robert, which brings back loads of memories for me having started going to Palace with my Dad in the late fifties. The 'Penny on the Ball' draw was great with 1p (old money)cost per ticket for a chance to win the matchball (only one ball per game then). I won the ball on one occasion despite huge odds against it with crowds often exceeding todays levels what glee! Also peanuts in shells were a halftime treat, when scores from other games were paraded around the ground on a board! A useful book you may wish to buy is ''Crystal Palace Football Club'' by our old historian The Reverand Nigel Sands.It covers all our history from 1905 until 1998 and has tons of pictures included. The ISBN Number is 0 7524 1544 1.

I have found the book you suggested and will look into getting it.

I saw the half time scoreboard included in the programme with each match having a different letter. Did someone have to walk around with it?

RobertCPFC
27-01-2017, 03:47 PM
For fixtures like Newcastle and Carlisle the coaches would leave Selhurst at midnight and arrive at the destination around about seven in the morning. Believe it or not Newcastle would have a welcoming committee consisting of a few of the local herberts waiting for the coaches. Most fans would spend the few hours before opening time wandering around, or finding a saturday morning picture house.


Newcastle sounds like one of the more unlikely places to have a welcoming committee. I expect arriving very early gave supporters a good chance to look around a place they wouldn't go to very often. I find it hard now leaving early for certain away games let alone going at midnight.

RobertCPFC
27-01-2017, 03:50 PM
Thank you for all your responses.

They have been very interesting to read through and hearing how different it is to what I have so far seen.

Percy Dalton
27-01-2017, 04:21 PM
April 1969 that Easter was critical in our promotion push. On Good Friday we played Middlesbrough who were in contention for a promotion spot, only two places and no play offs of course. By Easter Derby had all but booked one spot, but there were a few teams fighting for the second spot. Palace of course who were the form team in the middle of a 17 game unbeaten run, Millwall, Charlton, Boro as well in the mix.

The Good Friday game was 11am kick off and well over 40,000 were at the game. The Holmesdale had moved on mass to the terrace on the Park Rd side under the then in construction Arthur Wait Stand to take advantage of the roof cover which was now on in order to ramp up the noise. There was a small gap filled with Police keeping us apart from many Boro fans who had made the long trip. Then you could still walk around 3/4 of the ground and there was no segregation.

It was a tense match played on a bone hard pitch with not a lot of grass on it due to the very bad winter. It was a warm sunny day and a lot of dust came up from the baked mud.

It was 0-0 which did not really do either team much good.

Next day we were at home again this time to Portsmouth and bearing in mind it was just over 24 hours since our previous home game we still had around 35,000 in the ground. Again a warm sunny day and a rock hard pitch.

Palace struggled to get into gear and the crowd were very tense, goal less first half but we started the second half better and Cliff Jackson hooked the ball over the keepers head to put us in front. Steve Kember then scored a fantastic goal to put us two up, but we let them in with a soft goal and the tension came back, but we then won a penalty which Captain John Sewell put away, it was a bit of a miss hit and must have bounced many times before rolling over the line. The Games was on the Big Match the next day, not sure if there is any footage somewhere on the internet

We were next away to Huddersfield on the Tuesday after Easter (not sure why they did not play the previous day Easter Monday ?) 0-0 then the following Saturday at Preston another 0-0 and as results went our way we were almost certainly promoted. although Charlton could pip us on goal average if we did not get a point from our last two games but we won them both.

DARZET EAGLE
27-01-2017, 05:39 PM
I have found the book you suggested and will look into getting it.

I saw the half time scoreboard included in the programme with each match having a different letter. Did someone have to walk around with it?

Glad that you have found the book. There were boards to show selected half time scores, thinking it through the mobile boards were for something else, perhaps a cash draw. The peanuts were Percy Daltons...shells everywhere. The players just came out of the tunnel at the start of the game, no line ups or handshakes. No delirious celebrations after a goal either, just a polite handshake.:lux:

ian king
27-01-2017, 05:39 PM
The building of the Arthur Wait Stand was a big step forward for Palace - supporters paid towards it (not sure if there was some sort of loan which meant fans got two or three years worth of season tickets?) - I can remember there was always a big hall near what is now the wall on the other side of the entrance to Sainsbury's - called the 'Social Club' which was a great meeting place for Palace fans before and after matches - there was a tiny club shop, hardly the size of a small front room with a narrow counter.

In the summer of 1969 the club asked fans for loans - 200 got a stand seat for a minimum of five and maximum of 10 years. I contacted the club and for 100 loan they offered me an enclosure season ticket on the same terms which I took. This of course lasted through the years of hyper inflation so was a great deal! Ten years later when the loan ended the club offered the money back or shares in the club. I chose the latter allowing me to attend AGMs through the Noades era and then into administration as a creditor and all the detail that went with that.

The large Social Hall used to be hired out on Saturdays when there was no home game and on one occasion I was at a private function there when Alan whittle and a few others came in after an away game.

Dorking .Eagle
27-01-2017, 05:43 PM
Superb thread, keep them memories coming!

ian king
27-01-2017, 05:58 PM
Lastly did anyone shop in Brake Bros in Croydon? It was the back page advert on every programme.

This is a great post and some marvellous replies.

Blake Brothers was a good old fashioned gents outfitters (remember them) business. As well as gentlemen's clothing they stocked school uniforms for many Croydon schools and also Scout (and Guide?) uniforms and equipment.

DARZET EAGLE
27-01-2017, 06:00 PM
No red or yellow cards, the ref just blew his whistle and pointed to the tunnel to see a player off. A booking was literally that, whistle blows, a brief chat without expletive response, and the name in the book. No idle fourth official, if necessary a spectator would be invited to take over the line if the ref was injured. Whatever happened to the handbells that excited supporters used to shake? No ballboys, players retrieved the ball themselves. All shirts inside the shorts! No billiard ball playing surfaces, plenty of mud though.

moverman
27-01-2017, 06:13 PM
For fixtures like Newcastle and Carlisle the coaches would leave Selhurst at midnight and arrive at the destination around about seven in the morning.



I'm pretty sure the coach left the clock tower at Thornton Heath about 9pm for the Carlisle away game back in 73/74....all that way to lose 0-1

moverman
27-01-2017, 06:16 PM
The large Social Hall used to be hired out on Saturdays when there was no home game and on one occasion I was at a private function there when Alan whittle and a few others came in after an away game.

I remember going in there after a few away games, I wasn't old enough to drink but blagged my way in, didn't Big Mal buy everyone a beer one night after an away victory, big bad John might know, think it was him who told me..?

Stroud Eagle
27-01-2017, 06:51 PM
So many questions and I could spend hours answering them all.....but I only have a short time available before the rest of the house wakes up. So I will take only a few.

Toilet Rolls it was part of the culture back then we scored and they would come raining down from the Holmesdale and less so the Whitehorse. Why I dont know but every public toilet would be minus a toilet roll come Saturday. It was across all football grounds not Selhurst only .No I never did personally.

Reserve games those were the days of the Football Combination league I think. When reserve games did attract crowds. I went to a few and maybe you see one of the stars either on a comeback from injury or one who had been dropped plus a few youngsters play against if you were lucky a top flight team reserves. It killed a Saturday afternoon and you got to know what was happening with the first team. They had quite a following some top teams drew thousands. Youth had its own league the South East Counties. To be fair I am guessing there are a few more on here that went more than me. As soon as I could I was travelling to away games.

Supporters Club big place .bar, sandwich or rolls, organised loads, dances. It was in the Sainsburys car park which we owned before it was sold off. Small shop selling not a lot of merchandise. I never owned a shirt back in those days for instance. There was a committee and it organised travel to away games, Occasionally see the players in there it was a big thing back then. Nothing like the trust it was tied into the club run by fans. I am not sure of the tie in on the legal side but I do recall the row with AJ Wait where he pulled the clubs support for the Supporters Club and it meant all official coaches to Birmingham I think were stopped on the Saturday morning from leaving because of insurance issues.

Easter the joy of football fans three games in 4 days if you were fighting for promotion what a nightmare see our promotion in 69 it was virtually settled over that Easter . However you forget that games kicked off a different times it was easy say to see two games in London on the same day and possible sometimes to see three. Forget Sky adverts Easter was the feast of football......

We played a few friendlies if knocked out of the Cup it was normal practice....if no games were being rearranged no break for the players

I lived in Whitehall road.The bus garage was at the top of the road.We used to pop in there and get the paper bus tickets rolls .These were available in large supplies.They were better than the toilet rolls ,as they flew through the air quicker as they were a lot heavier,

Percy Dalton
27-01-2017, 11:42 PM
Yes this was the first season I started going to games I used to go with my uncle and cousin in his ford Anglia, we did not lose in our last 16 games that season climbing from mid table to 2nd with a famous 1-0 victory at derby who were the champions that year and I believe unbeaten at home till then. It was a mid week game so no way of knowing the result to the following morning. I did a paper round in those days that helped with the costs of watching Palace and I can remember getting the papers and opening them up looking for the result and my delight at seeing we had won and dancing in the streets at about 7am in the morning, people must have thought I was mad. Also a great 3-2 win at home against Fulham I think we were losing 2-1 and we comeback to win with a John Sewell penalty, which confirmed our promotion for the very first time to the old 1st division. I think Charlton finished 3rd that season in those days with no play offs so they missed out thanks to us :lux:
Those were the days. Great times.

Last home game v Fulham. 0-2 at half time. Second half Kember, Lazarus made it 2-2 The winner and promotion. Winning goal was scored by Cliff Jackson. Fantastic afternoon.

KYLIE MINEAGLE
28-01-2017, 12:09 AM
April 1969 that Easter was critical in our promotion push. On Good Friday we played Middlesbrough who were in contention for a promotion spot, only two places and no play offs of course. By Easter Derby had all but booked one spot, but there were a few teams fighting for the second spot. Palace of course who were the form team in the middle of a 17 game unbeaten run, Millwall, Charlton, Boro as well in the mix.

The Good Friday game was 11am kick off and well over 40,000 were at the game. The Holmesdale had moved on mass to the terrace on the Park Rd side under the then in construction Arthur Wait Stand to take advantage of the roof cover which was now on in order to ramp up the noise. There was a small gap filled with Police keeping us apart from many Boro fans who had made the long trip. Then you could still walk around 3/4 of the ground and there was no segregation.

It was a tense match played on a bone hard pitch with not a lot of grass on it due to the very bad winter. It was a warm sunny day and a lot of dust came up from the baked mud.

It was 0-0 which did not really do either team much good.

Next day we were at home again this time to Portsmouth and bearing in mind it was just over 24 hours since our previous home game we still had around 35,000 in the ground. Again a warm sunny day and a rock hard pitch.

Palace struggled to get into gear and the crowd were very tense, goal less first half but we started the second half better and Cliff Jackson hooked the ball over the keepers head to put us in front. Steve Kember then scored a fantastic goal to put us two up, but we let them in with a soft goal and the tension came back, but we then won a penalty which Captain John Sewell put away, it was a bit of a miss hit and must have bounced many times before rolling over the line. The Games was on the Big Match the next day, not sure if there is any footage somewhere on the internet

We were next away to Huddersfield on the Tuesday after Easter (not sure why they did not play the previous day Easter Monday ?) 0-0 then the following Saturday at Preston another 0-0 and as results went our way we were almost certainly promoted. although Charlton could pip us on goal average if we did not get a point from our last two games but we won them both.

Well do I remember those Easter games Percy. The Middlesboro game was a really hot day. There was great tension in the ground. As you say Boro were in with a shout so the result did them no good. The Pompey game I remember just as you described. It was then that I realised we would be in division one for the first time in our history.
Also that season there was the Charlton Cup game. We were neck and neck with them for most of the season before pulling away at the end. But there was a 3rd? round match at the Valley which finished 0 - 0 .The replay was packed and I did not get into the ground till half way through the first half . By then we were 0 - 2 down. Cliff Jackson I think missed a pen and that was it. They got knocked out by the Arse I think in the next round , and we got promoted. And lived happily ever after.

KYLIE MINEAGLE
28-01-2017, 08:36 AM
Glad that you have found the book. There were boards to show selected half time scores, thinking it through the mobile boards were for something else, perhaps a cash draw. The peanuts were Percy Daltons...shells everywhere. The players just came out of the tunnel at the start of the game, no line ups or handshakes. No delirious celebrations after a goal either, just a polite handshake.:lux:

Posted this some years back. We used to but a packet of Percy daltons ,probably from Mrs Minichella. If the game was boring we used to pick out a bald older spectator down the terraces from us and try and hit him with the said nuts. What scamps we were.:rolleyes:

Garfy
28-01-2017, 09:12 AM
I went to the Palace game on Good Friday with my older sister and her boyfriend and then we shot up to White Hart Lane to see Spurs beat Coventry three nil.

Percy Dalton
28-01-2017, 09:25 AM
Well do I remember those Easter games Percy. The Middlesboro game was a really hot day. There was great tension in the ground. As you say Boro were in with a shout so the result did them no good. The Pompey game I remember just as you described. It was then that I realised we would be in division one for the first time in our history.
Also that season there was the Charlton Cup game. We were neck and neck with them for most of the season before pulling away at the end. But there was a 3rd? round match at the Valley which finished 0 - 0 .The replay was packed and I did not get into the ground till half way through the first half . By then we were 0 - 2 down. Cliff Jackson I think missed a pen and that was it. They got knocked out by the Arse I think in the next round , and we got promoted. And lived happily ever after.

Yes it was a 3rd round FA cup game at the Valley, huge crowd, the trains were packed there and back. We held on for a rep!y at Se!hurst but they hit us with two quick goals and although we tried to get back in the game and as you say missed a pena!ty ( I thought it was taken by Steve Kember but may be wrong) they held on.

The two league games were draws with a pulsating 3-3 at Selhurst early in the season and another draw at the Valley just before the Easter games.

dave_who_ru
28-01-2017, 10:18 AM
I have found the book you suggested and will look into getting it.

I saw the half time scoreboard included in the programme with each match having a different letter. Did someone have to walk around with it?

No the letters were along the perimeter fence. Certainly the main stand and probably the Park Lane terrace. Then you would hopefully pick up the late Saturday Evening News (or was it the Standard) on the way home with all the football results and some partial reports on the games.

I recall reading in the evening paper on the way home from school that Dick Graham the manager had been sacked. Given I had seen him get us promoted from the old third division I was totally shocked at the time.

jjeagle
28-01-2017, 12:00 PM
For fixtures like Newcastle and Carlisle the coaches would leave Selhurst at midnight and arrive at the destination around about seven in the morning. Believe it or not Newcastle would have a welcoming committee consisting of a few of the local herberts waiting for the coaches. Most fans would spend the few hours before opening time wandering around, or finding a saturday morning picture house..

I can, just, remember getting on coaches on Friday night for trips to both Plymouth and Carlisle in the early 70's. I do remember arriving in Carlisle and a few of the "grown ups" suggested getting the bus to Scotland! Tagging along, we arrived in Gretna Green. Ended up, somehow, in the place where the marriage ceremonies took place. The guy running the place sensed the opportunity and offered to open the bar early!! I was still at school at the time and this was probably the first time l was able to buy a drink. I have no recollection of the bus back to Carlisle, the match or the journey home!!

Mick
28-01-2017, 12:13 PM
Great thread!
in 65/66, I recall going to Carlisle twice, 0-3 loss in the cup and 2-0 league win on last day of season. As mentioned, Friday overnighter on coach, Saturday overnighter on return. For the cup game, our picture was on front page of local evening paper, with Chris Wright ( later Palace Action Campaign ) in the middle.

Mick
28-01-2017, 12:18 PM
Interesting the 68/69 promotion Easter games, but also Easter was crucial in the Easter 73/74 Big Mal relegation. Went to all 3 games , winning at Fulham 3-1, losing on my birthday 2-3 at Millwall, then losing 0-2 home to Fulham. We eventually went down by failing to beat Cardiff. For good measure, on my 18th birthdayin 1968, we also lost 1-5 to Millwall!

KYLIE MINEAGLE
28-01-2017, 12:32 PM
God remember that Millwall game Mick. Cardiff what an awful night that was.

Zimeagle
28-01-2017, 12:48 PM
I went to Rotherham and none of the cafe's, pubs had toilet rolls - must have been visited by other Palace fans. This was a problem for one of my mates. Won that one 3-0 with Johnny Byrne playing after his return from West Ham.

There was an overnight "paper train" from Paddington which left at midnight and arrived in Plymouth at around 6 a.m. I remember playing in what seemed like a 50 a side kick about on Plymouth Hoe just after we arrived. Anyone else play in that?

N Herts Eagle
28-01-2017, 12:51 PM
No the letters were along the perimeter fence. Certainly the main stand and probably the Park Lane terrace. Then you would hopefully pick up the late Saturday Evening News (or was it the Standard) on the way home with all the football results and some partial reports on the games.

I recall reading in the evening paper on the way home from school that Dick Graham the manager had been sacked. Given I had seen him get us promoted from the old third division I was totally shocked at the time.
Both had reports of all London games up to about the 70th minute and then just the scorers. It was part of the Saturday evening ritual going to local newsagent waiting around for the vans to arrive. Latter by the time I got to Kings Cross from home games the papers were available. From away games the late train was around 11.30 from Kings Cross you could buy the Sunday papers those mainly had the reports for the northern teams.

DARZET EAGLE
28-01-2017, 03:00 PM
No the letters were along the perimeter fence. Certainly the main stand and probably the Park Lane terrace. Then you would hopefully pick up the late Saturday Evening News (or was it the Standard) on the way home with all the football results and some partial reports on the games.

I recall reading in the evening paper on the way home from school that Dick Graham the manager had been sacked. Given I had seen him get us promoted from the old third division I was totally shocked at the time.

Fantastic memory, it was the Standard I think. It was also great going to games to get the Standard or News for the London clubs football preview for games that afternoon. The paper was full of player action photos, ideal for autographs!

big bad John
28-01-2017, 08:23 PM
I remember going in there after a few away games, I wasn't old enough to drink but blagged my way in, didn't Big Mal buy everyone a beer one night after an away victory, big bad John might know, think it was him who told me..?


Had a piece published in Late Tackle called a friday night with Big Mal, which was about the night he bought his way into our fickle hearts by buying us all a drink in the supporters club. It was after a friday night home match against Halifax in March of 75. We were disgraceful and drew 1-1. We got wind after the game that big Mal was going to make an appearance in the club and everyone was psyched up to give him a bollocking. But the great man walked in, told us we were the greatest supporters in the world, stuck his hand in his pocket., produced a wad of notes, which he dispatched to the bar steward and told him to get everyone there a drink on him. Within seconds every man woman and child were up on seats and tables singing "oh Malcolm, Malcolm"
Only Big Mal could have pulled it off.

Hedgehog
29-01-2017, 12:55 AM
This advert in a programme from that era has to make you smile:

http://www.cpfc.org/forums/showpost.php?p=695475&postcount=226

LONDONMAN
30-01-2017, 04:43 PM
April 1969 that Easter was critical in our promotion push. On Good Friday we played Middlesbrough who were in contention for a promotion spot, only two places and no play offs of course. By Easter Derby had all but booked one spot, but there were a few teams fighting for the second spot. Palace of course who were the form team in the middle of a 17 game unbeaten run, Millwall, Charlton, Boro as well in the mix.

The Good Friday game was 11am kick off and well over 40,000 were at the game. The Holmesdale had moved on mass to the terrace on the Park Rd side under the then in construction Arthur Wait Stand to take advantage of the roof cover which was now on in order to ramp up the noise. There was a small gap filled with Police keeping us apart from many Boro fans who had made the long trip. Then you could still walk around 3/4 of the ground and there was no segregation.

It was a tense match played on a bone hard pitch with not a lot of grass on it due to the very bad winter. It was a warm sunny day and a lot of dust came up from the baked mud.

It was 0-0 which did not really do either team much good.

Next day we were at home again this time to Portsmouth and bearing in mind it was just over 24 hours since our previous home game we still had around 35,000 in the ground. Again a warm sunny day and a rock hard pitch.

Palace struggled to get into gear and the crowd were very tense, goal less first half but we started the second half better and Cliff Jackson hooked the ball over the keepers head to put us in front. Steve Kember then scored a fantastic goal to put us two up, but we let them in with a soft goal and the tension came back, but we then won a penalty which Captain John Sewell put away, it was a bit of a miss hit and must have bounced many times before rolling over the line. The Games was on the Big Match the next day, not sure if there is any footage somewhere on the internet

We were next away to Huddersfield on the Tuesday after Easter (not sure why they did not play the previous day Easter Monday ?) 0-0 then the following Saturday at Preston another 0-0 and as results went our way we were almost certainly promoted. although Charlton could pip us on goal average if we did not get a point from our last two games but we won them both.


bCAX0bdNDAo

Here's a clip of that Portsmouth game, weird to think it's nearly 50 years ago now!

Certainly seems to capture the atmosphere of the moment for me, (although it was a couple of seasons before my first Palace match!) having become familiar with the history of the club.

I think you can actually hear the Palace fans singing 'And now you're going to believe us" during the clip.

Ruskin Old Boy
30-01-2017, 05:07 PM
This thread has been a great read :p

Not that I remember as much about the 65/66 season as say 68/69 or 63/64 or the cup run in 64/65. It was a season of consolidation in the old Second Division, early exits in both cups and the absence of a decent goalscorer. Oh, and three managers. Top goalscorer was Brian Whitehouse who started the season in defence. He scored 7 goals, 1 more than Keith Lawson and 2 more than the much-hyped but ultimately disappointing Derek Kevan.

Having a Saturday job that was flexible enough to get me to home games meant away games were mostly out but the aforementioned Combination matches were always interesting. You never knew who might be turning out for either side and you had news of the 1st team's match before the evening papers arrived (used to hang around at the newsagent at the top of Milne Park East in New Addington to buy a copy from the newspaper boy when they arrived).

The toilet and bus ticket rolls were a familiar sight at all grounds - not exclusively thrown by school boys either. Standing on the Holmesdale was a great experience - your mates would always congregate in the same place on the terrace - we (a mix of boys who played on Milne Park and/or were at John Ruskin) were always at one of the barriers just above the goal. And in those days you could still swop ends at half time so if by chance Palace were kicking towards the Whitehorse in the 2nd half we'd be down that end.

Funnily enough the season ended with a home game against Carlisle in front of 9413 and we started the following season also with a home game against Carlisle. Gate went up to 11,374.

Others have written about later seasons - that Easter weekend in 69 was brilliant even if the Good Friday Boro match was a ghastly bore draw as the Pompey match the following day was a crackerjack of a match. I could go on, one of the highlights of that season was the midweek match against Millwall which made up for the agonies of every match at their place. We won 4-2, John McCormick scored a wonder goal and the Millwall were beaten off the Holmesdale. Away at university it was a stopping train back to the South Coast, didn't get back till after 1am. Happy days.

DARZET EAGLE
30-01-2017, 05:54 PM
bCAX0bdNDAo

Here's a clip of that Portsmouth game, weird to think it's nearly 50 years ago now!

Certainly seems to capture the atmosphere of the moment for me, (although it was a couple of seasons before my first Palace match!) having become familiar with the history of the club.

I think you can actually hear the Palace fans singing 'And now you're going to believe us" during the clip.

One comment about John Jackson ''7 goals conceded in 11 games''. How we could do with someone similar now.

Baffled Bob 2
30-01-2017, 06:04 PM
This advert in a programme from that era has to make you smile:

http://www.cpfc.org/forums/showpost.php?p=695475&postcount=226

:supergrin: "For Fast Footwork". I might get a pair for Hennessy

Mick
30-01-2017, 06:52 PM
For 66/67, the records show us having played Ipswich at home on Monday 27 March and away on Tuesday 28 March, losing both games 0-2.
I'm sure I recall going to the away game, which I believe was played as a result of a Christmas postponement, but I can't remember the home game, so wonder if anyone is a bit more clued up on what happened in this case and why the games were played as a double-header.

Ruskin Old Boy
30-01-2017, 07:06 PM
For 66/67, the records show us having played Ipswich at home on Monday 27 March and away on Tuesday 28 March, losing both games 0-2.
I'm sure I recall going to the away game, which I believe was played as a result of a Christmas postponement, but I can't remember the home game, so wonder if anyone is a bit more clued up on what happened in this case and why the games were played as a double-header.

Easter was early in 1967. We played at home to Millwall on Easter Saturday, lost 1-2, crowd of over 30,000. Home to Ipswich on Easter Monday, away on the Tuesday, evening kick off.

Mick
30-01-2017, 07:38 PM
Easter was early in 1967. We played at home to Millwall on Easter Saturday, lost 1-2, crowd of over 30,000. Home to Ipswich on Easter Monday, away on the Tuesday, evening kick off.

Thanks, that explains it. The postponed from Christmas away Ipswich game I was thinking of must have been the previous year.

Langers
30-01-2017, 08:05 PM
I noticed that coach travel would sometimes leave late on a Friday night ahead of a Saturday game. Why did that happen as now they would just go early on the Saturday

This gives you a idea of travel in the 60's - before 1971 the M4 stopped just after Reading. Most London fans went to away games in London.

N Herts Eagle
30-01-2017, 08:28 PM
This gives you a idea of travel in the 60's - before 1971 the M4 stopped just after Reading. Most London fans went to away games in London.
Taking this point further the M1 1965 stopped at Rugby...over the next two years it was extended to Leeds.

Langers
30-01-2017, 08:33 PM
Taking this point further the M1 1965 stopped at Rugby...over the next two years it was extended to Leeds.

It was always a day to go anywhere in the 60s - my first away games were all in London (Orient / Millwall)

Ruskin Old Boy
30-01-2017, 08:54 PM
This gives you a idea of travel in the 60's - before 1971 the M4 stopped just after Reading. Most London fans went to away games in London.


Indeed. My first away trip outside London was to Coventry in Nov 1964. Went by coach and we left far too early. Highlight of the away matches - all by coach outside London - that season was Man City at Maine Road - our first ever league match against them. Left at some ungodly hour, hardly any Palace there and got knocked about for over celebrating our first goal. Back so late walked home to New Addington from the ground.

Langers
30-01-2017, 09:04 PM
Indeed. My first away trip outside London was to Coventry in Nov 1964. Went by coach and we left far too early. Highlight of the away matches - all by coach outside London - that season was Man City at Maine Road - our first ever league match against them. Left at some ungodly hour, hardly any Palace there and got knocked about for over celebrating our first goal. Back so late walked home to New Addington from the ground.

The north and midlands became such a power house of football due to the transport links - London felt cut off prior to the 70s

Percy Dalton
31-01-2017, 06:01 PM
bCAX0bdNDAo

Here's a clip of that Portsmouth game, weird to think it's nearly 50 years ago now!

Certainly seems to capture the atmosphere of the moment for me, (although it was a couple of seasons before my first Palace match!) having become familiar with the history of the club.

I think you can actually hear the Palace fans singing 'And now you're going to believe us" during the clip.

Fantastic to see that again, thanks.

RobertCPFC
01-02-2017, 09:53 PM
This gives you a idea of travel in the 60's - before 1971 the M4 stopped just after Reading. Most London fans went to away games in London.

For someone my age it quite hard to believe how different travel was. I have heard some bad things about the M25 in the early days but had never considered any others.

RobertCPFC
01-02-2017, 09:55 PM
This advert in a programme from that era has to make you smile:

http://www.cpfc.org/forums/showpost.php?p=695475&postcount=226

One of the best things reading all the programmes was seeing the old adverts that you just wouldn't have now.

RobertCPFC
01-02-2017, 10:10 PM
I meant to write this a few days ago but I saw in the programme on Saturday Ian King's first game from 1967 that fits in rather well with this thread if anyone wants to read it.

KYLIE MINEAGLE
02-02-2017, 03:25 AM
bCAX0bdNDAo

Here's a clip of that Portsmouth game, weird to think it's nearly 50 years ago now!

Certainly seems to capture the atmosphere of the moment for me, (although it was a couple of seasons before my first Palace match!) having become familiar with the history of the club.

I think you can actually hear the Palace fans singing 'And now you're going to believe us" during the clip.

That game takes me back. We were more or less up on the strength of that win. The Sewell penalty was terrible ,keeper could have had a fag read the paper and still saved it, god knows how he didn't.

Hedgehog
02-02-2017, 03:59 AM
bCAX0bdNDAo

Here's a clip of that Portsmouth game, weird to think it's nearly 50 years ago now!

Certainly seems to capture the atmosphere of the moment for me, (although it was a couple of seasons before my first Palace match!) having become familiar with the history of the club.

I think you can actually hear the Palace fans singing 'And now you're going to believe us" during the clip.
I was at that game... One of the first... maybe 4th or 5th. (I was at the Boro game the day before also).

old palace boy
07-02-2017, 10:55 PM
i remember that season well our turning point was boxing day against blackpool losing 1/0 at half time match abandoned we started a good run after and then beating burnley 2/0 last game of season happy memorys anybody still around from that night the greatest in our history

moverman
17-02-2017, 07:33 PM
It was after a friday night home match against Halifax in March of 75. We were disgraceful and drew 1-1.

Was that the match Peter Taylor missed a penalty..?

big bad John
20-02-2017, 03:07 AM
Was that the match Peter Taylor missed a penalty..? Not 100% sure Pete, but you're probably right. Didn't he miss a few for us?

KYLIE MINEAGLE
20-02-2017, 06:38 AM
I have a memory that he did. Also remember Alan Ball snr, who was the manager jumping out of the dug out every time the ball went out of play and kicking it away to waste time.

moverman
21-02-2017, 03:12 PM
Not 100% sure Pete, but you're probably right. Didn't he miss a few for us?

Think you're right John.

Here's a quick trivia question for you only:

Venables missed a spot kick for us during his short spell as a player, at which ground and what was final score..?

big bad John
21-02-2017, 04:39 PM
Think you're right John.

Here's a quick trivia question for you only:

Venables missed a spot kick for us during his short spell as a player, at which ground and what was final score..?

Was at the match. Last few minutes away to Plymouth in the cup. Lost 2-1. Plymouth used to create a decent atmosphere in those days.

moverman
21-02-2017, 05:48 PM
Was at the match. Last few minutes away to Plymouth in the cup. Lost 2-1. Plymouth used to create a decent atmosphere in those days.

Correct and very true about Plymouth's crowd.

Remember them filling the Whitehorse one saturday, 3-3 draw..

big bad John
21-02-2017, 06:09 PM
Correct and very true about Plymouth's crowd.

Remember them filling the Whitehorse one saturday, 3-3 draw..

What a match that was. About six of them invaded the pitch at half time and in their attempt to get away from the cops ran into the New Stand.
Let's just say there was citizens arrests made.;)

casinocolin
22-02-2017, 10:18 AM
Was at the match. Last few minutes away to Plymouth in the cup. Lost 2-1. Plymouth used to create a decent atmosphere in those days.

I was at that game too, seem to remember having to walk through a park from the station to the ground with lots of Plymouth waiting for us. Was that Venables last game for us before Big Mal made him a coach for us?

Madden
22-02-2017, 11:20 AM
Was at the match. Last few minutes away to Plymouth in the cup. Lost 2-1. Plymouth used to create a decent atmosphere in those days.
It was the last kick of the match which the keeper saved and the final whistle blew as the rebound was put into the net if my memory serves me correctly?
We did go back down there a few weeks later for a league game and win 1 - 0 though!

moverman
23-02-2017, 03:42 PM
What a match that was. About six of them invaded the pitch at half time and in their attempt to get away from the cops ran into the New Stand.
Let's just say there was citizens arrests made.;)

That's right John, they had a football and kicked it all the way down to the Holmesdale and "scored" before running back into the stands..

KYLIE MINEAGLE
24-02-2017, 05:10 AM
Correct and very true about Plymouth's crowd.

Remember them filling the Whitehorse one saturday, 3-3 draw..

Doris scored with a header in that game ,he was a forward in those early days.