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Owngoal
13-05-2017, 11:30 PM
BBC gossip column has a screenshot of Star on Sunday headline for inside story basically Sam to spend £20 million on Hart?
Personally rather see that money spent on the likes of Begovic or Heston plus good cover. Hopefully Ltte Eagle will tell us his opinion on the England number one so we will know if he is going to be our best keeper since Martyn (again).

Makes some good saves but can be awful on his day. Torino quote somewhere else this weekend was we have been happy with Hart but did not expect the England number 1 to make so many mistakes.

Joe85
13-05-2017, 11:35 PM
A good show pony, average keeper.

Les Butler
13-05-2017, 11:40 PM
A good show pony, average keeper.

Yep, we already have one of those that makes continuous mistakes we do not need a backup.

CP-RJW
13-05-2017, 11:45 PM
BBC gossip column has a screenshot of Star on Sunday headline for inside story basically Sam to spend £20 million on Hart?
Personally rather see that money spent on the likes of Begovic or Heston plus good cover. Hopefully Ltte Eagle will tell us his opinion on the England number one so we will know if he is going to be our best keeper since Martyn (again).

Makes some good saves but can be awful on his day. Torino quote somewhere else this weekend was we have been happy with Hart but did not expect the England number 1 to make so many mistakes.

He's a decent chef but as a goalkeeper? Not convinced...

Kidofwonder
14-05-2017, 03:29 AM
Torino president very critical of Hart, said for a goalkeeper of his level, they expected him to make far fewer mistakes than he has...

PhuketEagle
14-05-2017, 04:27 AM
No way is Hart worth anything like 20 mill. Other areas need sorting first, save cash. Probably fake news anyway.

orp pisshead1
14-05-2017, 04:30 AM
No way is Hart worth anything like 20 mill. Other areas need sorting first, save cash. Probably fake news anyway.

Agree get Sakho in first :p

MasterYoda
14-05-2017, 04:46 AM
I really doubt the manager has spent much time looking at new signings this week.

Owngoal
14-05-2017, 06:42 AM
Just seen story online - basically Man City won't want to sell to top 4 rival and Sam has good relationship for picking him when dropped? Hopefully conjecture. And of course I meant HEATON but my phone went for corrective text....
Story fails to point out replacement for three is required - talks as if Hennessy is going to be under contract

Bipe
14-05-2017, 07:06 AM
We would not be on Hart's radar, he is a big headed ****** who sees himself as top 6 material

Worksop Palace
14-05-2017, 07:10 AM
£20m my arris

No way are we spending that much on a keeper. Especially one that is prone to be Hennessey like on occasions. He's better than WH but not £15m better

Billy Rhino
14-05-2017, 07:12 AM
Personally rather see that money spent on the likes of Begovic or Heston plus good cover.

Damn you. God damn you all to hell!

Jim Cannon
14-05-2017, 07:14 AM
Laughable story and likely made up.

Kai
14-05-2017, 07:21 AM
All rumours are pointless until we are either safe or down.

Nigelbrag
14-05-2017, 07:23 AM
Are some on here being serious in saying it is Not worth Palace getting Joe Hart? Firstly, can we tempt him to join Palace when he will have the choice of joining more successful clubs who don't struggle on an annual basis.
As England's First choice keeper he will have that opportunity of picking bigger clubs, as for making errors? show me ANY keeper that does not, would i like to see him join! You bet i would, if we could attract him it would be a huge coup for SA if he could pull it off.
Should we stay up which i am sure we will, Hart would be my First ingredient in our vital rebuilding programme along with Sakho, Defoe and Loftus-Cheek should be our priority signings.

Zohar's Penalty
14-05-2017, 07:25 AM
All rumours are pointless until we are either safe or down.

Exactly.

Billy Rhino
14-05-2017, 07:30 AM
All rumours are pointless until we are either safe or down.

So you're putting the Kaibosh on all transfer rumours?

Kuqi32
14-05-2017, 08:13 AM
Always acknowledges the HF

Thefunkymonk
14-05-2017, 08:15 AM
He's shit tbh. Properly dodgy

beef
14-05-2017, 08:17 AM
Wouldn't want us to spend £20m on a goalkeeper but he would be a great signing imo

OneSize
14-05-2017, 08:17 AM
Would prefer szczensy instead for 15m

grand aigle
14-05-2017, 08:33 AM
Wouldn't want us to spend £20m on a goalkeeper but he would be a great signing imo

He wont come to Palace, would mean the end of his England career!!

Lombardo's hair
14-05-2017, 08:37 AM
We need to be in PL first

DARZET EAGLE
14-05-2017, 10:19 AM
So you're putting the Kaibosh on all transfer rumours?

Billy all rumours are exactly that, rumours mostly unsustantiated, put out out by mischievous journalists or Agents or both in combination with each other. But it is fun to fantasise.

RisZero
14-05-2017, 01:08 PM
Better than Wayne imo but id sooner see us get Sakho sorted for that fee first if we can.

Entirely possible this is agent games to get him a move somewhere.

The Omen
14-05-2017, 01:16 PM
I think he's a very good keeper and a decent guy too. Just gets too emotional in very big games which has led to mistakes. Keepers need to stay calm and focused. However, as he gets older I imagine this will come.

Having said that, if we have £20m to spend, there are areas of the team in more immediate need

Vince Hilaire's Afro
14-05-2017, 01:19 PM
Torino president very critical of Hart, said for a goalkeeper of his level, they expected him to make far fewer mistakes than he has...

That's odd. I'd expect a player of Hart's level to make exactly the amount if mistakes he does.

Eaglesmad123
14-05-2017, 01:22 PM
Would give his Hart and soul to palace if he joined

costello
14-05-2017, 01:22 PM
I think we might all end up being disappointed with our signings over the summer. £40m spent in January and unless we sell a few we might have to settle for one marquee signing and then some wheeling and dealing.

CamberleyEagle
14-05-2017, 01:24 PM
Was head and shoulders the best option but the bald truth is he's now lost it.

evvo111
14-05-2017, 01:28 PM
I'd like us to get Heaton rather than Hart.

Palace121
14-05-2017, 01:56 PM
I think money would be better spent elsewhere but I'm still surprised at the negativity towards Hart. Quality keeper that had a bad euros.

TWELLSEagle
14-05-2017, 02:09 PM
Personally think Hart is a brilliant keeper. Well worth it.

Malarkey
14-05-2017, 02:10 PM
Think he's a quality keeper tbh.

CP-RJW
14-05-2017, 02:12 PM
Think he's a quality keeper tbh.
Agreed, but 20 million?! Bit steep.

dowieslovechild
14-05-2017, 02:12 PM
A flapper who takes an eternity to get down (e.g. Euro Championship performances). Too similar to what we already have

CP-RJW
14-05-2017, 02:13 PM
I'd like us to get Heaton rather than Hart.
He wouldn't come here, not a big enough step up for it to be worth leaving a club he's already a legend at.

swirly007
14-05-2017, 02:15 PM
Always acknowledges the HF

Yep. Has applauded our fans more than once. I'm a fan.

evvo111
14-05-2017, 02:16 PM
He wouldn't come here, not a big enough step up for it to be worth leaving a club he's already a legend at.

That's a shame. I rate him very highly.

CP-RJW
14-05-2017, 02:16 PM
Yep. Has applauded our fans more than once. I'm a fan.
He's clearly a passionate guy and a good leader/presence in the dressing room from what I've heard, that'd be a big merit of signing him.

Pubface
14-05-2017, 02:27 PM
Don't get the dislike in his character, every interview I've ever seen with him he seems a good bloke. His interview with Tubes on Soccer Am yesterday showed he's maybe learn from previous mistakes. Think he's a top keeper and still a good age!

evvo111
14-05-2017, 02:41 PM
I'm not sure he is worth £20 million. The Torino president seems a bit critical of him and he has not had the best season. For that amount of money you really want a World class keeper, who makes the very minimum of errors, and I don't think he is that, good, but not World class.

I think we will go for someone for around a quarter to half of that figure. Not sure who though.

Thefunkymonk
14-05-2017, 03:00 PM
Most goals conceded in Serie A since Joe Hart's debut:

Albano Bizarri (64)
Joe Hart (58)
Josip Posavec (58)

Sp1Eagle
14-05-2017, 03:01 PM
Having another poor game today.

jj62255
14-05-2017, 03:10 PM
£20 m? Nahhhh

jobiinthelastmi
14-05-2017, 03:24 PM
Wouldn't sign Hart but we need a new keeper. Can't have another season with the clown in goal.

spt1978
14-05-2017, 03:51 PM
Did he end up conceding 5 today. He really is not that good and no where near a £20m keeper.

Barge pole.

dilem
14-05-2017, 03:55 PM
Loan maybe, not worth astronomical wages and big fee

PalaceForever
14-05-2017, 03:55 PM
£20m too much and his wages would be a lot too.

Billy Rhino
14-05-2017, 04:10 PM
Would give his Hart and soul to palace if he joined

Well done, you've officially won the 'worst joke on the thread' competition, replacing my 'kaibosh' effort.:p

Kosowski
14-05-2017, 04:50 PM
Would be ******* insane to pay that much for a mediocre keeper.

Owngoal
14-05-2017, 04:55 PM
Loan maybe, not worth astronomical wages and big fee

£100,000 a week? He is not good enough to command that much
£20 million? Ditto

Just because he was picked by Sam for England it is a bit of two plus two makes a story (I hope)

Thefunkymonk
14-05-2017, 04:58 PM
He's shit!!!

Santos-er
14-05-2017, 05:00 PM
Hennessey's "bruvva from another muvva". Pass.

Halfwayline
14-05-2017, 05:07 PM
Hart will not come to a mid table team. More likely Liverpool.

Selling to a rival is irrelevant as such a rival will get soimeone equally good for £20M.

The money is better spent on a CB, RB, WG.

Oli28
14-05-2017, 06:44 PM
Hes so much better than what we've got at the moment.

However, I'd hope we have the scouting network to locate a keeper who is as good but won't cost as much

Thefunkymonk
14-05-2017, 06:49 PM
Hes so much better than what we've got at the moment.

However, I'd hope we have the scouting network to locate a keeper who is as good but won't cost as much

He's really not. He's a poor keeper that used to play for a good side. Proper dodgy..

Think he's got the stat for most errors leading to goals in serie A this year..

The12thman
14-05-2017, 08:54 PM
If it's £20m no thanks.

Rather get a cheaper keeper, a bit better than Henn and get Sakho in.

16eagles
14-05-2017, 09:25 PM
Joe Hart shit listen to some of you. Hope it happens. Would be good fit for him and us. What a statement also having the England keeper. Yes let in alt of goals but Torino have rubbish defence think he's made most saves..nobody mentioned that did they!

aj4england
14-05-2017, 09:33 PM
Id have him, world class keeper on his day

cpfcben
14-05-2017, 09:42 PM
No thanks. Much better options out there.

Son of Ron
14-05-2017, 10:01 PM
No thanks. Much better options out there.

Pickford

Sir.S.C Remembered
15-05-2017, 10:29 AM
Really like him and get the impression he likes the crowd at Selhurst based on how he's acted when playing there.

But it is just too big a financial package. We can't sign the expensive option for every position we are in for.

1905
15-05-2017, 10:59 AM
Please no!

Reps AJ
15-05-2017, 11:00 AM
Pickford

Bidding has started at £10m

baldeagle68
15-05-2017, 11:06 AM
No....Never ffs please don't do it:eek:
So up his own arse i'm amazed he ever sees a shot coming....
He is not a Palace type and will never fit in...

Now Pickford.... young 10/15 years left in him and a great keeper.

Invest in the future:p

Simmo the Elder
15-05-2017, 11:13 AM
No....Never ffs please don't do it:eek:
So up his own arse i'm amazed he ever sees a shot coming....
He is not a Palace type and will never fit in...

Now Pickford.... young 10/15 years left in him and a great keeper.

Invest in the future:p

Wiki reference:
"During his stint at Preston, Pickford impressed his veteran goalkeeping teammate Chris Kirkland, who said “Jordan comes out to take crosses and has an authority for someone still very young... As for his kicking, that is brilliant! I have never seen anyone kick a ball like he does."[44]

baldeagle68
15-05-2017, 11:15 AM
Id have him, world class keeper on his day

And what day would that be? Over hyped average keeper!

Harry Holmesdale
15-05-2017, 12:52 PM
Wiki reference:
"During his stint at Preston, Pickford impressed his veteran goalkeeping teammate Chris Kirkland, who said “Jordan comes out to take crosses and has an authority for someone still very young... As for his kicking, that is brilliant! I have never seen anyone kick a ball like he does."[44]

Flapped on Saturday big time

Owngoal
15-05-2017, 01:17 PM
Flapped on Saturday big time

If as rumour has it Jules has another contract there would be a call to drop Pickford and gives Jules a game. Every keeper has a poor game, Pickford is human. He will go to a big team for silly money.

jimmy the gent
15-05-2017, 01:46 PM
Pickford

Everton will go in for him, i suspect.

Thefunkymonk
15-05-2017, 01:57 PM
Rather spend £20m on sakho and keep hennessey in goal than sign the most overrated keeper in Europe in Joe hart

thehalifaxman
15-05-2017, 04:55 PM
Would love Hart. Think it would be a terrific signing.

eagle101
15-05-2017, 05:02 PM
Genuinely not sure if he's a £20m goalkeeper at this moment in time. Unwanted at Man City, and his Turin loan spell has hardly left them enthused despite the initial good performances.

MFBias
15-05-2017, 05:04 PM
Got more chance of signing Hart than Pickford. Hart is similar to the profile of signings we make, when their stock is low. We have a chance, Torino are hardly top 4.

jobiinthelastmi
15-05-2017, 05:45 PM
If as rumour has it Jules has another contract there would be a call to drop Pickford and gives Jules a game. Every keeper has a poor game, Pickford is human. He will go to a big team for silly money.

Defends Pickford...

Picks up on one game in Speroni's career and makes a massive deal out of it..

Make up your mind :jerkit:

firesign
15-05-2017, 06:40 PM
Hart - yes
£20m - no

Jono14
15-05-2017, 06:58 PM
Hart - yes
£20m - no

Pretty much this.

Probably get Begovic for cheaper.

917L
15-05-2017, 09:08 PM
He may not be as good as somE, but he is a level above Speroni Hennessey and Mandanda

Dont see him coming here though

TWELLSEagle
15-05-2017, 09:13 PM
Staggering how people write keepers off for high profile errors and periods of iffy form. This happens to most, it's the nature of being a keeper. Hart is one of the most talented keepers I've seen. 30 years old and 70 England caps. Could play for another 7 years but no, he's crap. Utterly incredulous

Thefunkymonk
15-05-2017, 09:20 PM
Staggering how people write keepers off for high profile errors and periods of iffy form. This happens to most, it's the nature of being a keeper. Hart is one of the most talented keepers I've seen. 30 years old and 70 England caps. Could play for another 7 years but no, he's crap. Utterly incredulous

He is a proper dodgy keeper. Always prone to mistakes and has luckily for him played in a team Worth 100's of millions. Internationally he has made errors and as soon as he's gone to a lesser team he has been woeful.. most errors leading to goals in serie A, conceded 60+ goals..

He is overrated, always has been. Genuinely on the same level as hennessey. No thank you, especially not for £20m.. would be a horrendous signing

GorBlimey
15-05-2017, 09:27 PM
^^^^ This.

palacedaz
15-05-2017, 09:31 PM
So Man City don't want to sell to a top 4 rival then surely he will end up at Everton. I would rather Heaton and put the extra into securing Sakho. I think Sakho is a must and I believe we can tempt him.

delboy01
15-05-2017, 09:37 PM
Heaton would be a top signing as he is young and pure quality.

Thefunkymonk
15-05-2017, 09:38 PM
Heaton would be a top signing as he is young and pure quality.

He's 30 I believe but yes he is quality and would be my preference

dasboy
15-05-2017, 09:41 PM
Don't want Hart - vastly overrated - been poor on loan in Italy and had hardly any clean sheets and making lots of mistakes. Better option elsewhere

Harry Bassett
15-05-2017, 10:08 PM
Staggering how people write keepers off for high profile errors and periods of iffy form. This happens to most, it's the nature of being a keeper. Hart is one of the most talented keepers I've seen. 30 years old and 70 England caps. Could play for another 7 years but no, he's crap. Utterly incredulous

He was dreadful in the Euros and I am not surprised that Gardiola decided to let him go on loan to Torino. While it is true that most keepers have a mistake in them Hart has made more errors than a good keeper would make, never mind the standard expected of an international keeper.

He has retained his England place because of the loyalty shown by England managers, Foster-Butland and Heaton should be ahead of him.

Such a pity because his early career and some of his time at City and for England showed what a good keeper he could be, clearly his confidence is shot to pieces.

Palace have had a few non international goalkeepers over the years who were better than Hart,let alone other teams. I have been fortunate to watch so many good keepers over years Swift-Bartram-Williams-Banks- Clemence Shilton-Seamen etc etc...Without question mistakes have been made but I cannot recall any top keepers making the mistakes the Hart has been guilty of.

To a certain extent I blame Hodgson who should have taken Hart out of the firing line, because his form pre Euros had been poor.

davech
15-05-2017, 10:16 PM
He is a proper dodgy keeper. Always prone to mistakes and has luckily for him played in a team Worth 100's of millions. Internationally he has made errors and as soon as he's gone to a lesser team he has been woeful.. most errors leading to goals in serie A, conceded 60+ goals..

He is overrated, always has been. Genuinely on the same level as hennessey. No thank you, especially not for £20m.. would be a horrendous signing


Fully agree. The Torino manager has criticised him for making too many mistakes.

Thanks, but no thanks - certainly not at £20m!!

Ian Hart
15-05-2017, 10:27 PM
I'm worth far more than that

Stormin' norm
16-05-2017, 07:09 AM
Hart for £20m - No, no, no, no no. It's bad enough having a cheap crap goalie, let's not buy an incredibly expensive crap goalie.

scro
16-05-2017, 07:24 AM
Both Hart and Pickford will currently be overpriced for different reasons. I am not sure either of them would be the sensible option.

Think the goalkeeping position will require more thought than looking around the premier league.

Maidstoned Eagle
16-05-2017, 07:29 AM
Don't want Hart - vastly overrated - been poor on loan in Italy and had hardly any clean sheets and making lots of mistakes. Better option elsewhere

"Hardly"? Any.

Oli28
16-05-2017, 07:30 AM
Showed this thread to a couple of long time City fans I work with, they both found it very funny. Both still rate Hart very highly and wish he had been used by them this year.

maxcpfc
16-05-2017, 10:58 AM
Would rather get heaton

Thefunkymonk
16-05-2017, 11:05 AM
Showed this thread to a couple of long time City fans I work with, they both found it very funny. Both still rate Hart very highly and wish he had been used by them this year.

Only because they have a worse keeper in bravo.. who again behind a world class Barca team Looked decent.

PauLo
16-05-2017, 11:24 AM
We've got to a point where people are saying no to Hart. Comparing him to Hennessey is laughable. All keepers make mistakes and Harts are bound to be scrutinised more in the press considering he's England's no. 1.

I'd have him.

Thefunkymonk
16-05-2017, 11:28 AM
We've got to a point where people are saying no to Hart. Comparing him to Hennessey is laughable. All keepers make mistakes and Harts are bound to be scrutinised more in the press considering he's England's no. 1.

I'd have him.

He shouldn't be England's number 1.. heaton butland and Fraser Forster are better

PauLo
16-05-2017, 11:35 AM
He shouldn't be England's number 1.. heaton butland and Fraser Forster are better

Maybe so. But he's a a hell of a lot better than Hennessey.

chelmsfordeagle
16-05-2017, 11:38 AM
How many people saying Hart is not good enough for us have seen him play this year on anywhere near a regular basis? A lot of criticism seems to be based around one quote from the Torino owner/manager who may well be trying to push the price down rather than people having seen him play. Hart has become one of these players people like to criticise.

He made a couple of bad mistakes in the euros but Hennessey was awful for a large part of the season. Weather Hart os good value for money or that there are better and cheaper options available i get but if it was a straight choice between hart and Hennessey i'd rather Hart.

CP-RJW
16-05-2017, 11:40 AM
He shouldn't be England's number 1.. heaton butland and Fraser Forster are better
Forster is bang average.

jimmy the gent
16-05-2017, 01:11 PM
Hart's an excellent keeper, but no way are Palace signing the current England number 1. Ain't happening (sadly).

orp pisshead1
16-05-2017, 01:13 PM
Hart's an excellent keeper, but no way are Palace signing the current England number 1. Ain't happening (sadly).

I'd say he's very good but not excellent, all about opinion of course:p. £20 mill:D.

evvo111
16-05-2017, 04:36 PM
Maybe so. But he's a a hell of a lot better than Hennessey.

He's also a hell of a lot more expensive both transfer fee and wage wise. He is not worth 20 million.

PauLo
16-05-2017, 04:48 PM
Interesting article this. Apparently the defence in front of him haven't been that great...

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11679/10802964/joe-hart-at-torino-has-the-england-goalkeeper-been-a-success-in-italy

Nigelbrag
16-05-2017, 04:54 PM
If we could tempt Hart, Sakho and Defoe to join it would really send out a signal of intent.

YASSA the PALACETINIAN
16-05-2017, 04:55 PM
Hart for £20m - No, no, no, no no. It's bad enough having a cheap crap goalie, let's not buy an incredibly expensive crap goalie.
Would just be adding another Flappy Chicken to the payroll.

Kirby
16-05-2017, 06:35 PM
I'd love it, but there's about 0.1% chance we'd spend £20m on a goalkeeper, let's be honest.

Ridcully
16-05-2017, 07:00 PM
Just seen story online - basically Man City won't want to sell to top 4 rival and Sam has good relationship for picking him when dropped? Hopefully conjecture. And of course I meant HEATON but my phone went for corrective text....
Story fails to point out replacement for three is required - talks as if Hennessy is going to be under contract

2 speroni has signed a new contract. Grant and Heaton please

Latvian Eagle
16-05-2017, 08:24 PM
Hart technically is a very good keeper. A million times better than Hennessey. His problem for me seems to stem from two things.

1. He loses concentration.

2. He gets over excited.

Both things which can be coached out of him. He isn't England's undisputed number one just for shits and giggles you know?!

cpfcfan1
16-05-2017, 08:26 PM
Comparing Hart to Hennessy LOL

seen it all now

aj4england
16-05-2017, 08:51 PM
Too costly all round

DaveTuttles
16-05-2017, 08:52 PM
People embarassing themselves saying Hart isn't better than WH

BUNGLE
16-05-2017, 09:08 PM
These sums of money would go alot further if we spent it abroad.

CP-RJW
16-05-2017, 09:21 PM
2 speroni has signed a new contract. Grant and Heaton please
Why do people think Heaton will come here, leave a club he's a legend at for one that isn't that much of a step up and will probably finish below Burnley this season.

carter
16-05-2017, 09:25 PM
Definitely worth asking for a loan deal

Flappy Chicken
16-05-2017, 09:49 PM
Would just be adding another Flappy Chicken to the payroll.

I can play in goal :lux::moo:

Danny boy
16-05-2017, 10:13 PM
People embarassing themselves saying Hart isn't better than WH

Probably the same people who were questioning the Sakho signing.

WashDCEagle
16-05-2017, 10:52 PM
Joe is a solid keeper, but I think his name is big and it inflates his price. If 20m is the price, that's 5m too much for me. Beyond that, I suppose Joe wouldn't want to play for us anyways. He probably sees himself at a club at least as big as Liverpool. Just calling it like I see it.

I don't see a keeper in the top division that is for sale really that would come to us, that I'd care to have. Perhaps Simon Mignolet? Crap on him all you like if you wish, but he's better than Wayne. Probably need to look elsewhere around Europe.

Thefunkymonk
16-05-2017, 11:24 PM
People embarassing themselves saying Hart isn't better than WH

Why is that embarrassing??

Genuinely I think Joe hart is one of the most overrated keepers around. He has is as dodgy as they come.. take him out of citeh's 100's of million team and he is woeful.. look at England and now Torino. He has been slated over there by management and board.. most errors leading to goals in serie A is one stat..

£20m plus 100k + a week for somebody who Is overrated and dodgy.. no thanks... typical overhyped English player.

PauLo
17-05-2017, 10:33 AM
Why is that embarrassing??

Genuinely I think Joe hart is one of the most overrated keepers around. He has is as dodgy as they come.. take him out of citeh's 100's of million team and he is woeful.. look at England and now Torino. He has been slated over there by management and board.. most errors leading to goals in serie A is one stat..

£20m plus 100k + a week for somebody who Is overrated and dodgy.. no thanks... typical overhyped English player.

See article I posted yesterday. Yeah, it's from March, but still valid. And i've read a lot of Torino fans say their defence isn't all the great. A goalie is only as good as the defence in front of him. Unless it's Hennessey :D

chelmsfordeagle
17-05-2017, 10:36 AM
Comparing Hart to Hennessy LOL

seen it all now

I once got told i knew nothing about football because i said Cech was better than Krialy.

gilesy14
17-05-2017, 10:41 AM
Wayne Hennessey is not fit to lace Joe Hart's boots. There is no comparison to be made.

Thefunkymonk
17-05-2017, 11:02 AM
See article I posted yesterday. Yeah, it's from March, but still valid. And i've read a lot of Torino fans say their defence isn't all the great. A goalie is only as good as the defence in front of him. Unless it's Hennessey :D

I agree with what your saying but there is no way I would pay £30m for a keeper if his ability.. would be a waste of money. Rather look at heaton

Tim
17-05-2017, 11:34 AM
I agree with what your saying but there is no way I would pay £30m for a keeper if his ability.. would be a waste of money. Rather look at heaton

In 30 years we've gone from signing the first ever £1 mil keeper to the first £30 million keeper..

regal_eagle
17-05-2017, 12:06 PM
I once got told i knew nothing about football because i said Cech was better than Krialy.

Kreally?

jimmy the gent
17-05-2017, 12:35 PM
We may as well be discussing whether or not Gordon Banks would be an improvement on WH, there's a similar chance of seeing him in goal for Palace as Hart anytime soon.

Ridcully
17-05-2017, 08:04 PM
Why do people think Heaton will come here, leave a club he's a legend at for one that isn't that much of a step up and will probably finish below Burnley this season.

Wages I would think would be a key factor but I agree can't see him leaving Burnley for anyone other than current top 7.

I think we'll finish above Burnley tho

Vince Hilaire's Afro
17-05-2017, 08:46 PM
Wayne Hennessey is not fit to lace Joe Hart's boots. There is no comparison to be made.

Whilst the vast majority would agree that Hart is the vastly superior goalkeeper, the pertinent issue in this thread is whether he's 10 times better nntermsnif financial investment.

New LP
17-05-2017, 08:46 PM
Hart isn't shit, that's ridiculous. However, like most English players he's overvalued and I reckon we could do better business elsewhere.

If we're going to spend that kind of money on a keeper then Fraser Forster would probably be the better bet.

Cpfcbob
17-05-2017, 08:50 PM
Good friend is a manc ST holder, also played in their academy years ago. Reckons Hart is well overrated and would be a huge mistake to spend big on him.

4 cryingOutloud
17-05-2017, 09:49 PM
I don't get it. Why would we buy Joe Hart for mega bucks when there are so many other goalkeepers around, both here and abroad for far less money and with a far better resale value. We've already tried an aging star (Mandanda) and that didn't go too well and as Sam wants to build a team for the future, I don't see him wanting too many expensive old men in it.

in-exile
17-05-2017, 09:56 PM
Wayne Hennessey is not fit to lace Joe Hart's boots. There is no comparison to be made.
But they are Football friends....not sure he would piss on Wayne's cornflakes by coming here.

4 cryingOutloud
17-05-2017, 10:12 PM
Let's throw another name into the mix. Wojciech Szczesny - Good keeper and would help to use up the dusty consonance up in the club shop.:p

Seriously though, not a bad goalkeeper 6'5" and still only 27.

jamescav0
18-05-2017, 12:15 AM
Let's throw another name into the mix. Wojciech Szczesny - Good keeper and would help to use up the dusty consonance up in the club shop.:p

Seriously though, not a bad goalkeeper 6'5" and still only 27.

This ^^^

dowieslovechild
18-05-2017, 06:36 AM
Let's throw another name into the mix. Wojciech Szczesny - Good keeper and would help to use up the dusty consonance up in the club shop.:p

Seriously though, not a bad goalkeeper 6'5" and still only 27.

This would be my choice, given that Pickford will be courted by everybody before the start of the new season. I'm also not a big fan of Joe Hart. My wounds from the Euro Finals have yet to heal, or visions of his inability to stop shots from miles out (his weaknesses are far too similar to what we already have).

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cpfcfan1
18-05-2017, 06:39 AM
What about Michel Vorm?

Wandle_Eagle
18-05-2017, 08:43 AM
In 30 years we've gone from signing the first ever £1 mil keeper to the first £30 million keeper..

We're signing Buffon from Juve? :eek:

Dobbo
18-05-2017, 09:30 AM
Get Begovic before Bournemouth do.

evvo111
18-05-2017, 09:33 AM
Not sure how well they have both played the rest of the season but the Huddersfield keeper and the Reading one have both done well in the play off matches.

Joeymaz
18-05-2017, 09:55 AM
Huddersfield keeper is on loan from Liverpool

BringbackShipps
18-05-2017, 09:56 AM
I would prefer we spent some proper cash on the position and solve it rather than look for bargain signings like Alex McCarthy or Mandanda again, that's for sure. Hart, Heaton, Begovic, Szczesny...all of these would drastically improve us. For me it should be given priority along with a CB and an AM, we'd be at least 12 points better off with quality in those positions IMO.

evvo111
18-05-2017, 12:01 PM
Huddersfield keeper is on loan from Liverpool

Perhaps he could be a BOGOF with Sakho :)

DARZET EAGLE
18-05-2017, 02:29 PM
Perhaps he could be a BOGOF with Sakho :)

Are you in the retail trade? 'Buy one get one free' for the uninitiated.

evvo111
18-05-2017, 03:11 PM
Are you in the retail trade? 'Buy one get one free' for the uninitiated.

Only in the fact I do the odd bootsale here and there and I remember the double glazing ad :)

johnnybacaro
18-05-2017, 04:05 PM
from what I saw last night, I think ward on loan from liverpool could be a better option than almost all of those proposed in this thread.

4 cryingOutloud
18-05-2017, 04:45 PM
from what I saw last night, I think ward on loan from liverpool could be a better option than almost all of those proposed in this thread.

We've already had one goalkeeper who was brilliant in his first game for us and then..........Kin Useless!

http://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/cedric-berthelin/

Latvian Eagle
18-05-2017, 05:46 PM
We've already had one goalkeeper who was brilliant in his first game for us and then..........Kin Useless!

http://www.worldfootball.net/player_summary/cedric-berthelin/

Berthelin played a few games before that Liverpool game. :D

Blackpool (came on as sub) - FA Cup 3rd Round
Burnley and Leicester both League.

Thefunkymonk
10-06-2017, 07:27 PM
Once again shown how bang average he actually is.. £20m... **** right off

Pistol Knight
10-06-2017, 07:43 PM
Once again shown how bang average he actually is.. £20m... **** right off

English Hennessey

Gyro1780
10-06-2017, 09:11 PM
Once again shown how bang average he actually is.. £20m... **** right off

I think he'd be good for us but not for anywhere near £20m. Not sure even half that.
He's been a good keeper in the past so don't understand what's wrong with him? Lack of confidence?
Could a return to the Premier League bring some of his confidence back?

Or is he just an average keeper who looked good because he played in a good team like City?

Latvian Eagle
10-06-2017, 09:19 PM
I think he'd be good for us but not for anywhere near £20m. Not sure even half that.
He's been a good keeper in the past so don't understand what's wrong with him? Lack of confidence?
Could a return the the Premier League bring some of his confidence back?

Or is he just an average keeper who looked good because he played in a good team like City?

He looked good even befote they brought in the stars. He has just gone off the boil and never really recovered to be honest.

CPFC since 1989
10-06-2017, 10:43 PM
Worth £2m on £20k a week.

Thefunkymonk
10-06-2017, 10:47 PM
I think he'd be good for us but not for anywhere near £20m. Not sure even half that.
He's been a good keeper in the past so don't understand what's wrong with him? Lack of confidence?
Could a return the the Premier League bring some of his confidence back?

Or is he just an average keeper who looked good because he played in a good team like City?

Honestly never rated him. Always been dodgy. Genuinely think he is not much better than Hennessey

SOUTHGATE EAGLE
10-06-2017, 11:48 PM
Once again shown how bang average he actually is.. £20m... **** right off

Agreed. £20M on a keeper when we have limited funds and a great need for a quality back up striker, an AM who does something, a first team quality CB and probably a back up DM to Luka? For that outlay, he better be streets better than what we have and Hart frankly isn't. There's got to be a GK out in Europe that fits the bill for way less money. Anyway, Hart wouldn't come here and thank God for that.

adrenalin john
10-06-2017, 11:49 PM
Hart has been absolutely class for City. I remember one game away in Madrid and he was just stupendous stopped City from getting an absolute pounding.

However for the last 2 years, his overall form has dropped and his error count risen.

Who knows why and whether he can reverse this

muswell eagle
11-06-2017, 07:07 AM
Honestly never rated him. Always been dodgy. Genuinely think he is not much better than Hennessey

This

Nigelbrag
11-06-2017, 07:31 AM
I have to admit that Hart looked average yesterday and on that basis the 20m fee suggested seems overpriced, especially for a club of our standing with other more priority signings to consider first. But lets not forget every transfer today is way way above true values, as for Keepers, just look at the guy City have just signed for a World record fee when 1 year ago was a reserve, what real experience has he got performing at the very highest level to warrant that crazy fee.
In any case i don't think players previously mentioned we were interested in like Hart, Defoe, Kone, etc were very much Allardyce preference signings and would NOT be on the hit list of any new manager we appoint.

the drexciyan
11-06-2017, 08:06 AM
English Hennessey

Ouch. That's kinda true.

bigend1
11-06-2017, 08:11 AM
Get Begovic before Bournemouth do.

Doubt we would but yeah.. for 12m. Must admit I lost track with that assumed it was done but if we could

ianace
11-06-2017, 08:36 AM
Harts wages would also be astronomical.
Looked like Palace trying to "defend" FK's last night, the wall didn't jump & keep was no where near the shots (which were hardly worldys btw)

Latvian Eagle
11-06-2017, 08:40 AM
Harts wages would also be astronomical.
Looked like Palace trying to "defend" FK's last night, the wall didn't jump & keep was no where near the shots (which were hardly worldys btw)

As I said yesterday he didn't move his feet enough and dived too early for both. For me it was almost like he was deliberately trying to make "Worldy" saves rsther than actually doing the easy thing and keeping the ball out of the net.

Martin H
11-06-2017, 10:06 AM
Before the last World Cup he looked a top keeper (just outside the top tier) that was prone to the infrequent crazy blooper, but overall very good. He seemed to lose it when he was made Captain - mentally he was pumped up too much off the pitch and it almost looked like the adrenaline ruined his game. Since then he has never quite been the same. Wouldn't want him at Palace for that cash/fees now because he is too much of a gamble.

evvo111
11-06-2017, 10:33 AM
It's the money part I think I disagree with the most. I know he has had an error prone season but I wouldn't blame him too much for the goals yesterday. They were excellent free kicks. Perhaps we expect too much from keepers, they can't cover the whole of the goal when the kicks are as good as those.

It's just that 20 million seems really steep. Half that and a sensible wage and he'd be well worth getting, although Heaton would be my first choice. Did anyone see Lloris' mistake? That was fun.

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exiledeagle1
11-06-2017, 11:58 AM
Joe Hart is shite....no better, if not worst than what we have.

Yoda
11-06-2017, 12:14 PM
Freddie Woodman looks like potentially better use of £20m.

pauldrulez
11-06-2017, 12:40 PM
Freddie Woodman looks like potentially better use of £20m.

If we hadn't have let him leave for a nominal amount 5-6 years ago, we wouldn't have this issue.

pauldrulez
11-06-2017, 12:42 PM
Doubt we would but yeah.. for 12m. Must admit I lost track with that assumed it was done but if we could

It is done. It says Bournemouth in his Twitter name anyway, so I'd assume!

Danny boy
11-06-2017, 12:44 PM
He was awful yesterday but I would still take him if we could get him for less than 15m.

Danny boy
11-06-2017, 12:54 PM
Joe Hart is shite....no better, if not worst than what we have.

He's miles better than anyone we have and was top class for years. If anything this is the perfect opportunity to get him on the cheap.

theCoach
11-06-2017, 02:08 PM
go all in for sakho now and hart on loan and with an agreement that if we stay up have first refusal as our big purchase 18/19 season.
would be delighted if this is all we done as well as Campbell replacement (could do with the budget) in the window and kept everybody else

JAS78
11-06-2017, 02:29 PM
Accident waiting to happen, now imo a worse keeper for England than calamity himself David James.

The mistakes he's made have cost us so much, not just in results but in ruining the confidence of the whole team. His performance against Iceland was unforgivable and that should have been his international career over.

Avoid

Purepalace
11-06-2017, 02:36 PM
Worth £2m on £20k a week.

No he isn't

Owngoal
11-06-2017, 02:45 PM
He's miles better than anyone we have and was top class for years. If anything this is the perfect opportunity to get him on the cheap.

Remember the quote from Torino chairman - I was surprised how many mistakes he made considering he was the England keeper

Of course they have one of the best keepers of all time in Buffon as Italy keeper

Heaton better than the woeful and getting worse Hart

bubbs11
11-06-2017, 06:21 PM
If we get a foreign coach in, sure he'll pull out of the hat a quality keeper most of us have never heard of.

aj4england
11-06-2017, 09:47 PM
Sakho is where the money needs to go not Hart

Owngoal
11-06-2017, 10:30 PM
Sakho is where the money needs to go not Hart

Is the right answer no matter what the question

Johnny Byrne
11-06-2017, 10:52 PM
Perhaps a cheeky £7m bid and £100k a week might tempt him once we get a new manager?

Popester
11-06-2017, 10:52 PM
Is the right answer no matter what the question

Even if the question is sakho is out for one year with an injury who should we sign?

sydnsteve
12-06-2017, 03:01 AM
Hart simply not good enough. Has lost his way big time.

Owngoal
12-06-2017, 05:47 AM
Even if the question is sakho is out for one year with an injury who should we sign?

?????? Do you know something no one else does?

JHJ EAGLE
12-06-2017, 06:05 AM
Sakho is where the money needs to go not Hart

Despite mistakes I believe Joe Hart to be a much better keeper than Wayne but, yes, the club would, imho, be better served splashing the cash on Sakho.

stannard
12-06-2017, 07:37 AM
Sakho on a contract and Hart on Loan. Won't happen but would be a solution.

maestro
12-06-2017, 07:55 AM
He is 30 years old and on bigger wages than his talent demands, rumours £120K a week

They will be very lucky to get a few £m for him

Jordan's Jacket
12-06-2017, 08:28 AM
He is rubbish

bigend1
12-06-2017, 08:32 AM
He's a good goalkeeper. Not worth the money to us though.

old geezer
12-06-2017, 08:33 AM
He is rubbish

No he is not but he is prone to mistakes and bad judgement calls
Only a bit better than Wayne who gets too much criticism in my view

Pinkie Brown
12-06-2017, 08:42 AM
He's a good keeper nothing more (obviously better than Hennesey) but does have some basic floors in his technique which I'd guess are far too ingrained at 30 to iron out.
If he was on a free yes but otherwise it's a no from me, I'd rather Heaton if we end up with Dyche.

Penstone Eagle
12-06-2017, 08:59 AM
Should be dropped from the England team.

Always an error or three in him in a game and not a case of if them, it's when.

Timbo
12-06-2017, 09:32 AM
Perhaps a cheeky £7m bid and £100k a week might tempt him once we get a new manager?

Thats barely cheeky. Not worth 100k pw

PalaceSi
12-06-2017, 09:38 AM
There are loads of good goalkeepers about that don't command 100k a week, we don't want to be blowing our budget on Hart when the rest of the team needs some urgent attention.

cpfcfan1
12-06-2017, 09:41 AM
Thought he was West Ham bound anyway?

davech
12-06-2017, 09:42 AM
No he is not but he is prone to mistakes and bad judgement calls
Only a bit better than Wayne who gets too much criticism in my view

My view too. He has gone off considerably in the last couple of years, precisely when keepers are coming into their prime. Hence not worth £20m and/or £100k+ per week

Rob Harmer
12-06-2017, 10:29 AM
Thought he was West Ham bound anyway?
Close season and West Ham want everyone

davech
12-06-2017, 11:15 AM
Close season and West Ham want everyone

£50m for some bloke called Atmo Sfeer so I heard.

firesign
12-06-2017, 11:18 AM
I think his head's gone. He really needs to rebuild his confidence - not sure where that will happen.

CommercialStone
12-06-2017, 11:23 AM
Are we blaming him for both of Scotland's goals? The first or the second?

His best games always seemed to be when City were seriously under the cosh.

I don't think he has the temperament or concentration to play for a top side where he will only be called upon 3 or 4 times a game.

FourtyTwo
12-06-2017, 11:49 AM
Are we blaming him for both of Scotland's goals? The first or the second?

His best games always seemed to be when City were seriously under the cosh.

I don't think he has the temperament or concentration to play for a top side where he will only be called upon 3 or 4 times a game.

That to me is the key point. When constantly involved, he is a good keeper, capable of world class saves. When the game drifts, he almost "switches off" and therefore isn't as quick when he is actually required.

Son of Ron
12-06-2017, 12:04 PM
I don't think he has the temperament or concentration to play for a top side where he will only be called upon 3 or 4 times a game.

He should be ok with us then.

davech
12-06-2017, 01:28 PM
So, Mr Hart has had NO offers at all, according to him in the Sun.

Surely all the clubs in all the world cannot be wrong? Or are they all just waiting for the price and his wages to drop by 50%?

ee-ay-ee-ay-ee-ay-o
12-06-2017, 01:34 PM
Whilst we're at it , lets have "JT" and Rooney as well

Three codgers that no one wants...and a mature central spine to the team.

maestro
12-06-2017, 01:38 PM
A loan would be a good deal for us if possible.

Jim Cannon
12-06-2017, 03:20 PM
Whilst we're at it , lets have "JT" and Rooney as well

Three codgers that no one wants...and a mature central spine to the team.

Hart is hardly a codger is he, just needs to rebuild his confidence

Latvian Eagle
12-06-2017, 03:29 PM
People turning their nose up at the England number one. He is having a bad period but he isn't half as bad as some are making him out to be. A move to a club like us or West Ham could really revive his career. I bet if his name was Josepi Hartinelli everyone would be going mad for him. :moo:

GreatGonzo
12-06-2017, 03:35 PM
People turning their nose up at the England number one. He is having a bad period but he isn't half as bad as some are making him out to be. A move to a club like us or West Ham could really revive his career. I bet if his name was Josepi Hartinelli everyone would be going mad for him. :moo:

No but if his name was Gianluigi Donnarumma on the other hand.

davech
12-06-2017, 03:44 PM
Hart is hardly a codger is he, just needs to rebuild his confidence

Possibly, but can we afford to be a rehabilitation centre for distressed goalkeepers? Keepers need to be together and confident. Unlike an outfield player, one mistake can be costly, two would be disastrous and repeated occurrences will soon have you in trouble, as we have found to our cost in recent seasons. To be fair, if Hart crumbles, we are reliant on Wayne, which many do not want.

For that reason, unless we are buying two keepers (which would be an unwarranted extravagance imho), any new keeper needs to be "guaranteed first-choice ready", which I don't believe Joe Hart is at present, and specially not at £20m and 100k/pw.

maestro
12-06-2017, 03:52 PM
Hart is hardly a codger is he, just needs to rebuild his confidence

No resale on him though at 30

AJ
12-06-2017, 03:59 PM
The problem for Hart is probably his wages reportedly at over 100k a week. Crazy money for a goalkeeper who isnt even that good when compared to his peers around the world.

JAS78
12-06-2017, 04:01 PM
He was making a shed load of errors at man city his last couple of seasons, but they mainly got ignored as they were winning games. Luckily for him he was in a team of all stars capable of banging in 3 goals a game

We haven’t got that luxury, he would cost us so many points.

Jim Cannon
12-06-2017, 04:08 PM
No resale on him though at 30

Plenty of resale value as long as he does well, a good keeper in his 30s still commands a good fee. Not suggesting we sign him but he could still have value when he is older

Latvian Eagle
12-06-2017, 06:16 PM
No but if his name was Gianluigi Donnarumma on the other hand.

Donnarumma is the main one but the Goalkeeping front for Italy is looking very rosy at the moment.

Could do worse than look at Simone Scuffet or Alex Meret from Udinese. They have already said they can't keep both.

Mattia Perin of Genoa is also very good but had two bad injuries in two years now.

Thefunkymonk
12-06-2017, 06:23 PM
People turning their nose up at the England number one. He is having a bad period but he isn't half as bad as some are making him out to be. A move to a club like us or West Ham could really revive his career. I bet if his name was Josepi Hartinelli everyone would be going mad for him. :moo:

He's been error prone throughout his career and is progressively getting worse. He shouldn't be the 'England number 1'.

And if Josepi hartinelli has made the most errors leading to goals last season and openly criticised by the clubs president i would highly doubt we would be going mad for him


I'd argue the opposite,once again people overrate him because he's English.

Palace Palare
12-06-2017, 07:14 PM
Perhaps we should hold out for De Gea, after all.

PalaceForever
13-06-2017, 10:16 AM
Are we blaming him for both of Scotland's goals? The first or the second?

His best games always seemed to be when City were seriously under the cosh.

I don't think he has the temperament or concentration to play for a top side where he will only be called upon 3 or 4 times a game.

I agree with this, which is why he could be a decent fit for us - he'd be much more involved during the 90mins and his inability to concentrate might be less of an issue if he doesn't have those long periods of no action.

His choices do seem quite narrow in the Prem...West Ham look like his best option with Everton going for Pickford, so perhaps he'd be interested in a move to us. I reckon Man City would let him go for much cheaper than £20m, but his wages are very high, a loan would seem the best move if the new manager likes him.

ChiswickEagle
13-06-2017, 10:20 AM
Both Hart and Pickford will currently be overpriced for different reasons. I am not sure either of them would be the sensible option.

Think the goalkeeping position will require more thought than looking around the premier league.

Sale of Pickford just agreed for £30m....

GreatGonzo
13-06-2017, 10:25 AM
Sale of Pickford just agreed for £30m....

Wow, Everton paying the 3rd highest fee in history for a keeper.

Latvian Eagle
13-06-2017, 10:29 AM
Wow, Everton paying the 3rd highest fee in history for a keeper.

He ain't worth that much. Donnarumma will smash that record I think.

Shipp Ahoy!
13-06-2017, 10:29 AM
Sale of Pickford just agreed for £30m....

Absolutely insane!

davech
13-06-2017, 10:30 AM
Sale of Pickford just agreed for £30m....

Makes Hart look a snip at £20m. But it's still a no from me.

Football is now officially even batshit-crazier :moo::confused:

AJ
13-06-2017, 10:33 AM
Makes Hart look a snip at £20m. But it's still a no from me.

Football is now officially even batshit-crazier :moo::confused:

Just think what we can get for the French #2 or the Welsh #1 :D

GreatGonzo
13-06-2017, 10:33 AM
He ain't worth that much. Donnarumma will smash that record I think.

Signing a new contract at AC Milan so i doubt he will move this summer. Will be interesting to see what his fee is if/when he does go as AC look unlikely to challenge Juve at present.

Latvian Eagle
13-06-2017, 10:38 AM
Signing a new contract at AC Milan so i doubt he will move this summer. Will be interesting to see what his fee is if/when he does go as AC look unlikely to challenge Juve at present.

They keep mentioning him going to Real Madrid so expect him to go for about £300m. :moo:

Timbo
13-06-2017, 11:41 AM
Makes Hart look a snip at £20m. But it's still a no from me.



I really rate Pickford but Everton have taken a gamble that he will be able to sustain the form of last season and continue to improve. Young GKs sometimes deteriorate as they mature

davech
13-06-2017, 11:56 AM
I really rate Pickford but Everton have taken a gamble that he will be able to sustain the form of last season and continue to improve. Young GKs sometimes deteriorate as they mature

Which is where Hart was many moons ago. Five years ago he was the dog's danglies. He seems to have tailed off, for whatever reasons.

I too rate Pickford, but will Wayne be prepared to play second fiddle - again - whatever? If not, we need to sell Wayne and bring in another keeper, as sadly, I suspect Julian is unlikely to figure; third choice is the best we can realistically offer, although I could be wrong.

Eddie McGoldrick's tash
13-06-2017, 02:45 PM
If the club/ he decide a loan to a PL club is the plan then we could be a possible destination?

There won't be too many options for him if he wants to stay in England. Bournemouth set to take Boruc, Saints have Forster, WBA have Foster, Burnley Heaton, Stoke have Butland. Really I can only see West Ham, Watford maybe, Swansea (?), us and the newly promoted sides as his options if he wants to play in England. I guess West Ham and maybe Newcastle could be more attractive to him though.

He'll probably go abroad but in a world cup year, he'll be desperate to be playing.

GreatGonzo
13-06-2017, 04:21 PM
Think he will want to be playing here where the England set up will watch him more given it being WC year. West Ham seems a pretty possible destination, Watford have Gomes, Newcastle have Krul and bought Darlow and Sels in last couple of years.

Jim Cannon
13-06-2017, 04:25 PM
He's been error prone throughout his career and is progressively getting worse. He shouldn't be the 'England number 1'.

And if Josepi hartinelli has made the most errors leading to goals last season and openly criticised by the clubs president i would highly doubt we would be going mad for him


I'd argue the opposite,once again people overrate him because he's English.

Trouble is he has been number 1 without too much competition. Foster was a twat a couple of years back and has probably blown his chance, Butland might make it but has been injured a lot and Heaton is a possible. Forster makes gaffes too.

aj4england
13-06-2017, 04:27 PM
The best England goalkeeper currently in my opinion is Ben Foster. Don't get the hype around Forster at all

CP-RJW
13-06-2017, 05:06 PM
The best England goalkeeper currently in my opinion is Ben Foster. Don't get the hype around Forster at all
From best to worst imo: Butland, Heaton, Hart, Pickford, Foster, Forster.

Tim
16-06-2017, 08:18 AM
He's a bit of a crossroads in his career now. None of the big clubs appear to want him which must of hurt his pride. He looks like he's losing his England place as well. It's a question of has he got the determination to prove himself as a top class keeper all over again?

Man City don't mess about with transfers if they want him gone then they'll either take the best offer they can or send him back out on loan.

Nigelbrag
16-06-2017, 08:37 AM
Obviously no decisions can be made until a new manager is appointed i assume, or that would be the sensible thing to do to stop any disagreement with the new man.
But to enquire now to gauge City's and the players reaction, if he could be available for a season long loan with the option to buy at an agreed price is what i would like Palace to pursue, and hopefully with any new manager wanting to bring in Ihenacho and Delph may get City to being more agreeable.

CaptainCharisma
16-06-2017, 10:42 AM
Personally, I would take Hart. At a time when Pickford has just gone for £30m after half a season(he was injured a fair time) then most top quality keepers are going to be out of our price range. Wayne has had a handful of top performances for us this season, but I just don't rate him as first choice. I live Jules but he isn't going to play. Yes Hart as mistakes in him, but I think he has reached a stumbling block in his career, City don't want him, Torino is a no and his England place is at stake. These are the types of players we can be the perfect fit for(obviously it has also worked hideously the other way). Come here, play regularly, be a part of something again and rebuild his stuttering career. Price is dependent of course but I wouldn't mind us signing him.

I also wouldn't be surprised if Mandanda resurfaces under a new manager.

GreatGonzo
16-06-2017, 11:41 AM
They keep mentioning him going to Real Madrid so expect him to go for about £300m. :moo:

Can sign a pre-contract agreement in January and move for free next summer. Depends who and how many in the race but he may go for less than the £20m Man City want for Hart.

Les Butler
16-06-2017, 12:03 PM
The two free kicks against Scotland were no different from our Wayne...Why would we want more of the same?

Ifill Over
20-06-2017, 06:00 PM
The two free kicks against Scotland were no different from our Wayne...Why would we want more of the same?

Agreed

jonn63
12-07-2017, 04:36 PM
I just been in ladbrokes they wont take a bet on Joe Hart joining palace.

Ralph
12-07-2017, 04:42 PM
I just been in ladbrokes they wont take a bet on Joe Hart joining palace.

Get on one of these then:

https://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/joe-hart/club-after-summer-transfer-window

Latvian Eagle
12-07-2017, 04:43 PM
I just been in ladbrokes they wont take a bet on Joe Hart joining palace.

Probably because he's going West Ham? :moo:

4 cryingOutloud
12-07-2017, 04:52 PM
I just been in ladbrokes they wont take a bet on Joe Hart joining palace.

They're trying to save you money!

Thin on Top
12-07-2017, 04:59 PM
I just been in ladbrokes they wont take a bet on Joe Hart joining palace.

You need to be 16

Crunchie
12-07-2017, 05:04 PM
West Ham United have been strongly linked with a move for the player, but many believe that Crystal Palace could beat them to it. West Ham United fans suspect that one of their summer targets could be bound for Crystal Palace instead.
The Hammers have been strongly linked with a move for Joe Hart over the past 24 hours, with The Sun reporting [12 July, page 51] they are in advanced talks to sign him from Manchester City. City, though, are said to be holding out for the permanent transfer of England's number one - which could open the door to other clubs.
And Palace may be one of them, according to some West Ham fans on Twitter...

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/07/12/west-ham-supporters-suspect-transfer-target-will-sign-for-crysta/

elthameagle
12-07-2017, 05:09 PM
Get on one of these then:

https://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/joe-hart/club-after-summer-transfer-window

I note that our new sponsor is not listed.

carter
12-07-2017, 05:10 PM
I see that HITC site a lot on here. That story just seems to be some (hopeful?) journalist making a story out of fans on twitter thinking something. Pretty average

jonn63
12-07-2017, 05:13 PM
Sweet cheers for that didn't ask my age either.

Crunchie
12-07-2017, 05:14 PM
I see that HITC site a lot on here. That story just seems to be some (hopeful?) journalist making a story out of fans on twitter thinking something. Pretty average

Yeah, large pinch of salt me thinks. Just putting it out there. ;)

aj4england
18-07-2017, 05:55 PM
Signing on loan for West Ham . 4.5 million deal apparently a years wages

theCoach
18-07-2017, 06:04 PM
From best to worst imo: Butland, Heaton, Hart, Pickford, Foster, Forster.

Yes sir.......you know your keepers