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CP-RJW
14-05-2017, 03:42 PM
Hull: Clucas, Maguire, Grosicki Boro: Gibson, Traore Sunderland: Defoe, Pickford, Kone, Ndong Anyone else appealing?

Danny boy
14-05-2017, 03:44 PM
Grosicki has looked good when I have seen him, he might be a decent buy as competition for Zaha and Townsend

costello
14-05-2017, 03:49 PM
Patrick Bamford

Kidofwonder
14-05-2017, 03:51 PM
None of them apart from Defoe. Was a fan of Grosicki today though

RisZero
14-05-2017, 04:13 PM
Pickford if we can.
Defoe if we dont go long term.
Bamford if Sakho's demands include a PA.

Jono14
14-05-2017, 04:21 PM
Grosicki, Maguire and Pickford. Can see the last 2 go bigger though.

Shoreditch CPFC
14-05-2017, 04:29 PM
You guys were watching a different game to me today. We all thought Maguire looked useless.

Militant Eagle
14-05-2017, 04:31 PM
Pickford if we can.
Defoe if we dont go long term.
Bamford if Sakho's demands include a PA.

But Bamford's demands include a hairdresser.

Owngoal
14-05-2017, 04:38 PM
You guys were watching a different game to me today. We all thought Maguire looked useless.

Playing fullback when he is a centre half? A Pardew tactic. Rather take the view of Keown who rates him highly as a CH

I H8 CWEED
14-05-2017, 04:44 PM
Negrado would be good back up

Jim Cannon
14-05-2017, 04:47 PM
Patrick Bamford

:D

Pickford linked with Everton, doubt we would get him. One or 2 decent targets worth looking at but not too many players from relegated clubs all at once for me, they have been used to losing.....

PS I remember when we thought Ranocchia might be a decent signing

Mictor Voses
14-05-2017, 04:48 PM
Would much rather recruit players from the Championship who are actively mobile in their careers rather than players who have just been relegated.

Kosowski
14-05-2017, 04:48 PM
Grosicki would be an excellent and not expensive alternative to Townsend and Zaha.

maestro
14-05-2017, 04:50 PM
Grosicki has no pace and wouldnt suit our style

We need wingers than can beat a man and carry the ball

Shipp Ahoy!
14-05-2017, 04:50 PM
Negrado would be good back up

Benteke, Defoe and Negredo next season :love:

Yes please!

Jim Cannon
14-05-2017, 04:58 PM
A huge no thanks to Negredo. Isn't he still owned by Valencia and no doubt on a massive wage?

Thefunkymonk
14-05-2017, 04:59 PM
Defoe.. maybe maguire

zonin2000
14-05-2017, 05:01 PM
Jakupovic
Ben Gibson

RisZero
14-05-2017, 05:01 PM
Grosicki's 3 assists and 0 goals dont strike me as an essential must buy player tbh. Looking good doesnt always translate to being a good acquisition.

Also I thought Gibson was linked to Arsenal?

Jerry Murphy's Fringe
14-05-2017, 05:02 PM
The question is really; which of that list would start for us next season? As per the Jan window, we should only bring in genuine match day players, in positions we are short. There is talk of Man City, Man U may be Arsenal clear outs on the way. While that is more expensive and so we will need to keep more of the fringe players, it has to be a better bet than buying potential. So, GK, striker, RB and AM in that order for me.

maestro
14-05-2017, 05:03 PM
Have people watched Defoe recently? he seems to have lost his sharpness.

Would be a gamble.

CP-RJW
14-05-2017, 05:03 PM
Grosicki's 3 assists and 0 goals dont strike me as an essential must buy player tbh. Looking good doesnt always translate to being a good acquisition.

Also I thought Gibson was linked to Arsenal?
Been average for Hull but very impressive earlier this season in France and before that at the Euros. He'd be worth a punt imo. And yes Gibson may be a long shot but if we could buy him I'm sure we'd be interested.

Jim Cannon
14-05-2017, 05:18 PM
Have people watched Defoe recently? he seems to have lost his sharpness.

Would be a gamble.

He still managed a goal last week for a team devoid of any confidence. Personally I think if we got him, he would not start every game anyway

spt1978
14-05-2017, 05:20 PM
Have people watched Defoe recently? he seems to have lost his sharpness.

Would be a gamble.

You do not rate anyone though.

Jay_eagle
14-05-2017, 05:27 PM
Pickford & Defoe - maybe Ayala

cantspell
14-05-2017, 06:07 PM
Would be a gamble - ffs

Yankeagle
14-05-2017, 06:10 PM
Grosicki has no pace and wouldnt suit our style

We need wingers than can beat a man and carry the ball

:supergrin:

You're actually challenged.

Oli28
14-05-2017, 06:19 PM
Have people watched Defoe recently? he seems to have lost his sharpness.

Would be a gamble.
Who is worse, Defoe or Benteke?

Oli28
14-05-2017, 06:21 PM
Would be a gamble - ffs
Literally the opposite of a gamble.

You know what you get with Defoe. He won't play every game but he'll nick goals every so often when we're up against it. Would be a brilliant signing. He'd do well next to Benteke and probably would accept being second choice when we play 1 up front. I don't see what there is to lose.

Danny_Cheviot
14-05-2017, 06:23 PM
Negrado would be good back up

Yep, think there's a player there who could do with a little Sam and Sam magic.

st albans
14-05-2017, 06:26 PM
Grosicki has looked good when I have seen him, he might be a decent buy as competition for Zaha and Townsend

The guy that was the only hull player not to walk over to the way fans today and just trudged off the pitch?? **** him

Loafster
14-05-2017, 06:37 PM
Pickford
Defoe on a 1 season contract
Dawson maybe to replace DD?

Eagle's Away
14-05-2017, 06:48 PM
None of them apart from Defoe. Was a fan of Grosicki today though

Never seen him before in the flesh but was impressed by him too. Thought he was the best Hull player by far. 49 caps for Poland. Aged 28. Seems worth a shout.

Jim Cannon
14-05-2017, 07:15 PM
Dawson maybe to replace DD?

2 relegations in 3 years and over the hill, and would want a lot more than I bet Damo gets

Chrissayy
14-05-2017, 07:18 PM
Traore for me, reminds me of Bolasie early on, we love those raw wingers with pace to burn! Think he'd be a great backup for our main two for sure.

maestro
14-05-2017, 07:20 PM
Traore for me, reminds me of Bolasie early on, we love those raw wingers with pace to burn! Think he'd be a great backup for our main two for sure.

Sako out and Traore in would be a good deal.

Would suit us

PGHSTEVE
14-05-2017, 07:36 PM
Don't understand why Defoe would want to come here. It seems his #1 priority is to play for England in the World Cup. He needs first team football and he isn't going to be first choice with the investment in Benteke. Maybe Palace play two up front next season or maybe Benteke will be sold? And in no way do I want to see Benteke sold.

Looking forward to the speculation over the next three months knowing it will be as a Premier League side.

Kai
14-05-2017, 07:45 PM
Pickford should be an obvious target and I wouldn't be opposed to Defoe either. And what happened to that Duncan Watmore kid? He looked promising too.

Hull have got some interesting players in Maguire, Clucas and Robertson.

glaziers fan
14-05-2017, 08:00 PM
Traore, Kirchoff, Defoe, Pickford, Clucas. Plenty of talent out there

Oli28
14-05-2017, 08:05 PM
Hull have got some interesting players in Maguire, Clucas and Robertson.
Robertson is good but we have PVA Schlupp and Souare

Terrace Bickle
14-05-2017, 08:12 PM
How about Markovic who was on loan at Hull as a 3rd choice winger?

Yoda
14-05-2017, 08:21 PM
You guys were watching a different game to me today. We all thought Maguire looked useless.

Absolutely....we thought Maguire was poor and didn't live up to his reputation.
As much as I dislike Dawson, he was better.

igl
14-05-2017, 08:29 PM
Personally thought Ndiaye was the best Hull player today.

palacelad197o
14-05-2017, 08:30 PM
Patrick Bamford

:D

palacelad197o
14-05-2017, 08:31 PM
i am convinced we will go in for 3 Sunderland players

Thefunkymonk
14-05-2017, 08:32 PM
More and more I think about it.. probably only Defoe.. hull looked dog shit.. don't want anyone from them

Eaglesfan1
14-05-2017, 08:37 PM
You do not rate anyone though.
Until Defoe goes to a rival club and scores against us next season, then he'll say how it's unforgivable how we persisted with Benteke rather than signing him :D

TWELLSEagle
14-05-2017, 08:50 PM
How about Markovic who was on loan at Hull as a 3rd choice winger?

Think he's a very talented player

917L
14-05-2017, 08:55 PM
Have people watched Defoe recently? he seems to have lost his sharpness.

Would be a gamble.

16 goals this season, in a properly shit team

Philipw
14-05-2017, 09:06 PM
Personally thought Ndiaye was the best Hull player today.
agreed - thought he looked really good

CP-RJW
14-05-2017, 09:21 PM
Absolutely....we thought Maguire was poor and didn't live up to his reputation.
As much as I dislike Dawson, he was better.
He's a centre half and he was playing at full back, how about you judge Maguire on the games he's played in his correct position, where he has rightfully received lots of recognition for his quality performances.

Chillo
14-05-2017, 09:43 PM
Robertson is good but we have PVA Schlupp and Souare

Robertson was all left foot today; PVA has a right foot as well (and scored with it - not today).

Chillo
14-05-2017, 09:44 PM
Was a fan of Grosicki today though

First half, yes; second half they changed their set-up and were more positive, but he seemed to fade out a bit.

Yoda
14-05-2017, 09:46 PM
He's a centre half and he was playing at full back, how about you judge Maguire on the games he's played in his correct position, where he has rightfully received lots of recognition for his quality performances.

I am aware of that, thanks.

Doesn't explain him repeatedly losing possession and poor passing, which we saw several examples of as he was playing on our wing.

And there's no need to be so aggressive in your tone.

kilkennyjim
14-05-2017, 10:17 PM
Agree re n'diaye. He stood out today as one that would fit in perfectly.

Thefunkymonk
14-05-2017, 10:18 PM
Agree re n'diaye. He stood out today as one that would fit in perfectly.

Not sure I agree.. didn't do anything

ForzaPalace
14-05-2017, 10:30 PM
Don't think anyone would get in our first team

Benzhiyi
14-05-2017, 10:37 PM
Maguire is a chunky lad, inne? Definitely reckon he could keep up with Sam on the pints of vino.

Twilko
14-05-2017, 11:37 PM
Not sure why people are saying Defoe is past it when he recently put 2 past us in about 2 minutes.

El Aguila
14-05-2017, 11:41 PM
Personally thought Ndiaye was the best Hull player today.

Me, too - is he theirs, or on loan?

El Aguila
14-05-2017, 11:48 PM
Robertson is good but we have PVA Schlupp and Souare

You can't have too many left backs, never know when there's going to be a shortage.

gold76
15-05-2017, 06:49 AM
Dawson a good leader of men, and a couple of years younger than Damo, obviously we'll do our best to get Sakho in.

Defoe too, but there will be a lot of competition

The rest, not for me

Owngoal
15-05-2017, 07:46 AM
I am aware of that, thanks.

Doesn't explain him repeatedly losing possession and poor passing, which we saw several examples of as he was playing on our wing.

And there's no need to be so aggressive in your tone.

Jesus, you probably had a go at Kelly when he was played LB? Martin Keown knows nothing about playing CH does he. Are you Maestro in disguise?

ForzaPalace
15-05-2017, 09:21 AM
You can't have too many left backs, never know when there's going to be a shortage.

Hi Alan

glaziers fan
15-05-2017, 09:59 AM
Have people watched Defoe recently? he seems to have lost his sharpness.

Would be a gamble.

He's probably exhausted. Now he is getting older he probably needs to play 30 min cameos and just start the odd match. That'd be perfect for us

SA Eagle
15-05-2017, 10:03 AM
Grosicki would be an excellent and not expensive alternative to Townsend and Zaha.

Thought his attitude stunk to be honest. While the rest of his team mates lay down, knackered and obviously a bit upset, before going over to their fans, he simply turned and walked straight off, without an apparent care in the world.

Sir.S.C Remembered
15-05-2017, 10:25 AM
Hi Alan

Genius!

In this case yes you can have too many!

Jasper
15-05-2017, 10:31 AM
I don't see many players at those three clubs that would add anything to our team. I wouldn't want us signing too many relegated players, better to look at those who have fallen out of favour elsewhere (like Benteke & Sakho).

Defoe seems the only decent option. He scored 16 goals in a truly dreadful team and would be a big upgrade on Campbell and Remy. He's allowed to leave Sunderland for free as well.

Pickford and Ben Gibson are both very good young players but they are likely to end up at bigger clubs.

Sydenham Eagle
15-05-2017, 09:50 PM
There's no doubt that there are good players available from clubs that have been relegated. Scott Dann proves that point but other than the likes of Pickford and Defoe we should have our sights set way higher than that. Hopefully Sam has another couple of players like Luka to bring in. No doubt we need a keeper, right back (incredibly lucky that Joel rarely misses a game) centre half (Sakho), midfielder as Cabaye may we'll leave and 2 quality strikers to join Benteke and Wickham (again very lucky that Benteke hardly missed a game)

nicky
16-05-2017, 11:37 AM
Dann wasnt freshly relegated, he was languishing in the championship.

cranesparkeagle
16-05-2017, 11:42 AM
Didnt see it with Maguire but Clucas looked good and looked more upset at relegation than any of the others

mushroom
16-05-2017, 11:50 AM
Maguire is decent, don't judge him on one game where he was played out of position, in a team that was playing shit.
He is a big unit, that can also pass a bit.

Yoda
16-05-2017, 12:00 PM
Jesus, you probably had a go at Kelly when he was played LB? Martin Keown knows nothing about playing CH does he. Are you Maestro in disguise?

Have a word with yourself....plenty of people thought Maguire had a poor match on Sunday, including journos and the Hull fans forum. Playing in a different, but still defensive, position doesn't explain away all that we saw.

Kosowski
16-05-2017, 12:05 PM
Thought his attitude stunk to be honest. While the rest of his team mates lay down, knackered and obviously a bit upset, before going over to their fans, he simply turned and walked straight off, without an apparent care in the world.

Why pretend he's invested emotionally in a club he's played just over a dozen games for? He came with a release clause should Hull go down and that's exactly what is going to happen. He stood out in a very mediocre side. He can't be accused of not being 100% committed in the games he played, but he always said he saw Hull as a stepping stone into the Prem.

He's direct, pacy, has great cross and can finish. Give Hull Sako or Lee and bring him in. For 5 million he is a far stronger alternative than either of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDlyjK673O4

Hambo
16-05-2017, 12:11 PM
Didnt see it with Maguire but Clucas looked good and looked more upset at relegation than any of the others

I like the look of Clucas - although decent in midfield I think he would excel as a full back.

BillyTKid
16-05-2017, 12:24 PM
Why pretend he's invested emotionally in a club he's played just over a dozen games for? He came with a release clause should Hull go down and that's exactly what is going to happen. He stood out in a very mediocre side. He can't be accused of not being 100% committed in the games he played, but he always said he saw Hull as a stepping stone into the Prem.

He's direct, pacy, has great cross and can finish. Give Hull Sako or Lee and bring him in. For 5 million he is a far stronger alternative than either of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDlyjK673O4

He looked decent enough but I don't think you want to be buying 29 year old wingers.

FrankieBoy
16-05-2017, 12:31 PM
Why pretend he's invested emotionally in a club he's played just over a dozen games for?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDlyjK673O4

Not many saying this about Sakho though, is there?

jimos_uk
16-05-2017, 12:36 PM
Not many saying this about Sakho though, is there?

Different gravy though.

All about team spirit - Sahko had Benteke in the squad and, quite frankly, a monster of a positive attitude when he joined. The Polish fellow (who is a very good footballer), joined a team that had sold arguably their best player, and had a release clause put into his contract. It's not quite the same, especially since Sahko joined on loan.

That said, Defoe and Pickford yes please. Traore looks a Palace kind of player. Clucas has something about him. The rest? We need to aim higher, unless we want to be in the bottom 6 again.

sylvan eagle
16-05-2017, 12:51 PM
Would like Defoe and Pickford but Defoe can't go on forever

IanH
16-05-2017, 12:53 PM
The three teams at the bottom were all poor. That said, in Sam we trust. He has that Pulis type ability to spot a decent player unlike Pardew! Be interesting to see who we buy this summer.

Dannox51
16-05-2017, 01:38 PM
Defoe and Adama Traore (if we can somehow teach him some end product)

mushroom
16-05-2017, 01:39 PM
I've not been impressed with Traore. Fast... but not much else

Dannox51
16-05-2017, 01:41 PM
He has amazing ability just needs some coaching he reminds me of Yala maybe 4 seasons ago

mushroom
16-05-2017, 02:17 PM
He has amazing ability just needs some coaching he reminds me of Yala maybe 4 seasons ago


He was at Barca, he has had access to some top quality coaching. I've probably seen him 4 or 5 times, never impressed me.

mb23
16-05-2017, 02:55 PM
Pickford, Gibson, Maguire, Robertson, Clucas, Grosicki, Markovic, Defoe are probably the pick of those who have gone down. We could probably do with a lot of them except Robertson and Clucas.

laboxers
16-05-2017, 02:57 PM
He was at Barca, he has had access to some top quality coaching. I've probably seen him 4 or 5 times, never impressed me.

Not see the game against us for Villa a couple of years back? Ruined Souare for the half hour he was on the pitch.

sylvan eagle
16-05-2017, 03:32 PM
Pickford, Gibson, Maguire, Robertson, Clucas, Grosicki, Markovic, Defoe are probably the pick of those who have gone down. We could probably do with a lot of them except Robertson and Clucas.


Markovic is on loan from Liverpool

aj4england
16-05-2017, 03:38 PM
I was keen on Robertson, looked pony Sunday though.

Repo Man
16-05-2017, 03:41 PM
Clucas was one of the worst Premiership players I've ever seen play against Palace, wouldn't touch him with a bargepole.

mushroom
16-05-2017, 03:48 PM
Not see the game against us for Villa a couple of years back? Ruined Souare for the half hour he was on the pitch.

yep...saw that game.

I'll take Forshaw/Gibson/Clayton before Traore, who isn't always a starter for Boro

mushroom
16-05-2017, 03:49 PM
Callum Chambers from Arse on loan might work... can play RB/CB

kestoneagle
16-05-2017, 03:51 PM
He has amazing ability just needs some coaching he reminds me of Yala maybe 4 seasons ago

I said the same to my son last night.

chelmsfordeagle
16-05-2017, 03:53 PM
I'd like us to get Defoe but I think he will want to be a first choice player starting every week. If if doesn't i'm sure Spurs would be interested in him as back-up. Kone is the only player i can see us going after and having a decent chance of getting.

mushroom
16-05-2017, 03:57 PM
Ibe at Bournemouth has lost his way... maybe a loan/bid for him

DARZET EAGLE
16-05-2017, 05:25 PM
I'd like us to get Defoe but I think he will want to be a first choice player starting every week. If if doesn't i'm sure Spurs would be interested in him as back-up. Kone is the only player i can see us going after and having a decent chance of getting.

A bit of a contradiction mate. He wouldn't want to sit on the bench for us or Spurs at this stage in his career.

RisZero
16-05-2017, 11:24 PM
Pickford had another massive stand out performance (despite losing the game) and is even trending on Twitter :p

Panther
17-05-2017, 06:57 AM
Clucas was one of the worst Premiership players I've ever seen play against Palace, wouldn't touch him with a bargepole.

BBC website lists him as in the Top 10 for average amount of miles covered in a game. Doesn't mean he's that good of course (although I don't think he's anywhere near as bad as you do) but it could be the sort of stat which would appeal to Sam. I wouldn't have him as a starter but he could be useful as a squad member, maybe as a Ledley replacement.

scro
17-05-2017, 07:19 AM
Maguire is the wrong shape for a footballer. I couldn't get used to that and i suspect it indicates he isn't really up to it long term.

I don't think there was anyone in the hull set up that would be of interest. Traore at boro does have an element of appeal but i haven't seen enough to be sure on that one. Defoe would be ok but he might get a 2 year deal somewhere and i am not sure about doing that.

Dobbo
17-05-2017, 07:58 AM
Thought Maguire was poor on Sunday. Let Leicester buy him.

cooperman
17-05-2017, 08:19 AM
Not see the game against us for Villa a couple of years back? Ruined Souare for the half hour he was on the pitch.

Exceptionally hot day (players allowed to take drinks break mid way in each half), he came on with fresh legs after Souare had been bombing up and down for an hour, skinned him to set up Villa's goal - apart from that not much to indicate there's a Yala inside....

As Sam says - no point in buying players that are not better than we have and he doesn't stand out as that, (certainly wouldn't be good enough as a wilf/Townsend replacement) imo - not that I want either of them to leave.

scro
19-05-2017, 12:14 PM
As Sam says - no point in buying players that are not better than we have and he doesn't stand out as that, (certainly wouldn't be good enough as a wilf/Townsend replacement) imo - not that I want either of them to leave.

Ahh but the cover for wilf and townsend only has to be better than sakho. Not even sure which player you are discussing but i don't think all new players have to be straight into the first team picture. I think thats whats been proven this season you need players in back up that can do a better job than dog shit.

cooperman
19-05-2017, 12:44 PM
thats whats been proven this season you need players in back up that can do a better job than dog shit.

i see your point but therein lies the challenge for club and those of similar resources - we could have a long debate about the value of Traore against Sako based on performances over the last couple of seasons and the limited chances the latter has had (i'm not championing him but when he first came - scored the winner against Villa etc, many said who needs Yala)....

Our first 11 this season (GK notwithstanding) would probably match up to most of the teams not in the top 6, its when they are u/a that the challenges start - this (in the main) is due to previous poor planning as much as bad luck - e.g. Kelly covering as a FB for half a season...

its interesting to note at Sam's recent press conference that he talked about his recruitment team already working on certain targets for several weeks; that he thought Wilf would be a Palace player come next season and that he would be trying out several youth players in the pre season; i think we have a a manager who has a very clear strategy on who and what he wants (its quite refreshing to hear some pre planning done - remember Hollaway and the Wembley tunnel 16) and where he says there are areas of deficiency, he goes on to elude that the Sakho deal would probably be dependant on how successful and at what cost that other recruitment will be, put simply - he cannot afford to rob Peter to pay Paul, if getting Sakho means we cannot strengthen in several other areas then taking the above point - the whole squad weakens; not just one position (albeit an important one) but one where we have 4 CB's already in Tomkins,Dann, Kelly and Delaney...

DARZET EAGLE
19-05-2017, 02:08 PM
Maguire is the wrong shape for a footballer. I couldn't get used to that and i suspect it indicates he isn't really up to it long term.

I don't think there was anyone in the hull set up that would be of interest. Traore at boro does have an element of appeal but i haven't seen enough to be sure on that one. Defoe would be ok but he might get a 2 year deal somewhere and i am not sure about doing that.

:D That's a new one, how does Peter Crouch rate then?

scro
19-05-2017, 03:00 PM
:D That's a new one, how does Peter Crouch rate then?

I genuinely think crouch is more the right shape than maguire. Now don't get me wrong there have been some decent players that have not moved or looked like athletes but i was very shocked at maguires build and movement (agility wise rather than on positionally on the pitch). He looked bottom heavy to me.

Panther
19-05-2017, 03:28 PM
:D That's a new one, how does Peter Crouch rate then?

Very highly with female giraffes......

Eddie McGoldrick's tash
19-05-2017, 06:48 PM
Moyes says they want 30m for Pickford

jj62255
19-05-2017, 07:38 PM
Moyes says they want 30m for Pickford

LOL

And I want 50K for my 2007 Fiat Punto :lux:

arabian eagle
19-05-2017, 07:39 PM
Why do people like Clucus looks clueless when ever have seen him play

DARZET EAGLE
19-05-2017, 10:11 PM
I genuinely think crouch is more the right shape than maguire. Now don't get me wrong there have been some decent players that have not moved or looked like athletes but i was very shocked at maguires build and movement (agility wise rather than on positionally on the pitch). He looked bottom heavy to me.

Nicely put, rather like Carol Vordeman you mean (sorry).

4 cryingOutloud
19-05-2017, 10:12 PM
Maguire is the wrong shape for a footballer. I couldn't get used to that and i suspect it indicates he isn't really up to it long term.

I don't think there was anyone in the hull set up that would be of interest. Traore at boro does have an element of appeal but i haven't seen enough to be sure on that one. Defoe would be ok but he might get a 2 year deal somewhere and i am not sure about doing that.

Maguire has a longer body and shorter legs than most, but he a reliable player.

4 cryingOutloud
19-05-2017, 10:14 PM
Repeated post.