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Thefunkymonk
25-06-2017, 07:14 PM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/crystal-palace-ready-back-incoming-10687601

Article about iheanacho but mentions FDB interested in veltman.

CharlieCPFC
25-06-2017, 07:16 PM
More chance of this happening than not I'd say, great age and versatile at the back. Would be a good signing. With 12 months remaining on the contract they can't command a massive fee.

in-exile
25-06-2017, 07:18 PM
I'm liking this.

Malarkey
25-06-2017, 07:23 PM
Yay

Liam_Palace
25-06-2017, 07:29 PM
Spurs are interested

adrenalin john
25-06-2017, 07:29 PM
It makes sense. I love Joel Ward but we will need a right back and centre back that can pass if we are to play the De Boer way. Veltman and Sakho?

Plus a no.10

Thefunkymonk
25-06-2017, 07:40 PM
It makes sense. I love Joel Ward but we will need a right back and centre back that can pass if we are to play the De Boer way. Veltman and Sakho?

Plus a no.10

I would love sakho back.. however I have a feeling we may spend the money on 2/3 players instead of him. I mean I hope we sign him and 2/3 others but I doubt it

RisZero
25-06-2017, 07:47 PM
I would love sakho back.. however I have a feeling we may spend the money on 2/3 players instead of him. I mean I hope we sign him and 2/3 others but I doubt it

I was thinking this just now. I dont think he would be a mismatch for FDB, certainly always tried to play it out from the back and was mostly successful, but doubt the budget will spread that far unless Liverpool make a significant compromise (obviously wont happen)

Also wondered if he is still there towards the end of the window if we could try another loan

Danny boy
25-06-2017, 07:53 PM
Good to see we are looking at an RB. Ward has been good player for the club but his passing needs to improve if he is to start.

DARZET EAGLE
25-06-2017, 07:58 PM
De Boer knows the player well following his development through the Ajax academy. We must trust his assessment if he is to come to Palace, but Tottenham are also interested,who may provide a better option in offering European football. We would offer similar or better terms and regular football.

adrenalin john
25-06-2017, 08:03 PM
De Boer knows the player well following his development through the Ajax academy. We must trust his assessment if he is to come to Palace, but Tottenham are also interested,who may provide a better option in offering European football. We would offer similar or better terms and regular football.

Spudz would also mean him hooking up with his former Ajax defensive team mates...

However, they have Trippier and Walker so will he play?

CharlieCPFC
25-06-2017, 08:05 PM
Spudz would also mean him hooking up with his former Ajax defensive team mates...

However, they have Trippier and Walker so will he play?

He's only been recently deployed as a right back regularly. His first position is in the middle of the backline.

Eddie McGoldrick's tash
25-06-2017, 08:24 PM
Spudz would also mean him hooking up with his former Ajax defensive team mates...

However, they have Trippier and Walker so will he play?

Spurs may not still have Walker by the end of August.

Anyway, let's see how it all pans out.

Jim Cannon
25-06-2017, 08:28 PM
Spurs are interested

This story is in the mirror, don't be surprised if the entire thing is bullshit

Owngoal
25-06-2017, 09:18 PM
He could be the perfect player for us to sign with the versatility and a good age. Our problem is our remaining two CHs are just not going to be fit enough to play enough games whole season. When you see 20 million being asked for some fairly average players he would be a bargain and Sakho would not be over priced at 30. What a difference a season is making to transfer fees.

Sceagle
26-06-2017, 11:56 AM
Ajax fans don't rate him and laughing at his for even considering him

SilentAssassin
26-06-2017, 12:08 PM
Heard he's handy with a felt tips.

RisZero
26-06-2017, 02:20 PM
Ajax fans don't rate him and laughing at his for even considering him

Grateful bunch then are they?

eaglebhoy
26-06-2017, 05:09 PM
His overall rating on PES 2017 is 82 :moo2:

(So is Sakho)

Nth Kent Eagle
26-06-2017, 06:46 PM
His overall rating on PES 2017 is 82 :moo2:

(So is Sakho)

For a dinosaur like me who doesn't understand PES, is that good?

RisZero
26-06-2017, 07:54 PM
For a dinosaur like me who doesn't understand PES, is that good?

No, Fifa is the superior choice so question the posters sanity

TWELLSEagle
26-06-2017, 07:59 PM
No, Fifa is the superior choice so question the posters sanity

PES used to be far better but FIFA took over a while ago now I think

hdeagle
26-06-2017, 08:17 PM
PES 2017 is all about its great gameplay and not just micro-transactions and unbalanced teams that blights Fifa.

Nigelbrag
26-06-2017, 08:24 PM
Frank de Boer would know Veltman the player far better than any of us, and if he feels he could add value to Palace then we must respect that. Personally i don't know much about the player, but he seems to have been in demand so must be decent, and with just 12 months left on his contract could be had on a very reasonable fee compared to what Sakho would cost.

eaglebhoy
27-06-2017, 09:44 AM
PES used to be far better but FIFA took over a while ago now I think


Sacrilege, was true but as of PES 2017 FIFA is back in 2nd place [emoji16]

Liam_Palace
27-06-2017, 11:14 AM
��De Boer: "Veltman could be an option. I know him well and what he's capable of, but we haven't spoken yet." #ajax [@ADnl]

AJ
27-06-2017, 02:30 PM
I would love sakho back.. however I have a feeling we may spend the money on 2/3 players instead of him. I mean I hope we sign him and 2/3 others but I doubt it
I reckon we will offer a lot less or we will wait until deadline day. Tbh, i dont know if anyone will offer 30m for Sahko.

mikeywm3
28-06-2017, 11:55 AM
Mentioned in this article about Kenny Tete by Matt Law:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/06/28/crystal-palace-target-kenny-tete-ajax/

Eaglefoz
28-06-2017, 12:17 PM
Also mentioned in his own thread below
http://www.cpfc.org/forums/showthread.php?t=270952

mikeywm3
28-06-2017, 12:51 PM
Crap. I did look for another thread and must've overlooked. My bad.

costello
28-06-2017, 02:44 PM
30m really doesn't look excessive when you see the prices being talked about for Van Dijk, Walker, Ake. Wouldn't be at all surprised if a top-6 team came in for him.

CharlieCPFC
28-06-2017, 03:20 PM
30m really doesn't look excessive when you see the prices being talked about for Van Dijk, Walker, Ake. Wouldn't be at all surprised if a top-6 team came in for him.

It isn't really in the grand scheme of things, Walker for 40M+, Ake for 20M and neither are world class. For me Sakho is up there in the top 15 center halves in the world. He was instrumental in our safety, not just his defensive ability but the leadership he brings too.

Owngoal
28-06-2017, 03:43 PM
It isn't really in the grand scheme of things, Walker for 40M+, Ake for 20M and neither are world class. For me Sakho is up there in the top 15 center halves in the world. He was instrumental in our safety, not just his defensive ability but the leadership he brings too.

Walker has never looked the dominant player you would expect against us, makes me realise how good Clyne was as a youngster. Some of the fees (Ake) make you realise we will have to pay close to 30

TWELLSEagle
28-06-2017, 03:50 PM
I still think clyne is better than walker. Walker must be one of England's most over rated players.

RisZero
28-06-2017, 03:59 PM
It isn't really in the grand scheme of things, Walker for 40M+, Ake for 20M and neither are world class. For me Sakho is up there in the top 15 center halves in the world. He was instrumental in our safety, not just his defensive ability but the leadership he brings too.

Not sure where id rank him on a world scale but he definitely is a proven fit for us beyond anyone else, at least under Sam

CP Satellite
28-06-2017, 04:07 PM
https://s25.postimg.org/7epocw4en/1498665833016-910058870.jpg

gold76
28-06-2017, 04:08 PM
Lol I've got young Frankenstein on in the background here

BillyTKid
28-06-2017, 04:09 PM
30m really doesn't look excessive when you see the prices being talked about for Van Dijk, Walker, Ake. Wouldn't be at all surprised if a top-6 team came in for him.

There are very few clubs who can spend 25m in a defender and paying him 100k a week. None of the top 6 will buy him in the premier league. Unless a PSG or Zenit comes along then we would have a good chance of negotiating a deal around 20m with some add ons I think.

Lombardo's hair
28-06-2017, 04:13 PM
Sakho will not go for 30 m because all the so called experts say he has a mistake in him and he is ungainly. But then think John Stones is brilliant!!! Pundits who'd have em

brooklynlou
28-06-2017, 04:15 PM
There are very few clubs who can spend 25m in a defender and paying him 100k a week. None of the top 6 will buy him in the premier league. Unless a PSG or Zenit comes along then we would have a good chance of negotiating a deal around 20m with some add ons I think.

Whoever negotiates contracts at Liverpool is an idiot ...

DARZET EAGLE
28-06-2017, 05:12 PM
Sakho will not go for 30 m because all the so called experts say he has a mistake in him and he is ungainly. But then think John Stones is brilliant!!! Pundits who'd have em

A mistake in him...tell me who hasn't.
Ungainly... but effective.
What is certain is that he is solid, tackles well, commands his defenders, has positional awareness, has tons of energy, is a character, is a leader, and made a huge contribution in keeping us up. Get him in FDB.

CP-RJW
28-06-2017, 05:31 PM
I still think clyne is better than walker. Walker must be one of England's most over rated players.
He's had a far better season than Clyne who's been pretty ordinary in 2017.

Harry Bassett
28-06-2017, 06:04 PM
Seeing that picture of Marty Feldman reminded of a "gentlemans evening"at the Palace many years ago when the comedian in a disabled wheelchair mentioned that Arthur Askey( an old comic) who had his legs amputated just before he died and Feldman who had also just passed away....had gone to heaven to form a new double act...... "Wide eyed and legless" the bad taste was because the comic was a cripple but most of the audience thought it amusing.

cpfcfan1
28-06-2017, 06:08 PM
Sakho will stay at Liverpool imo

Think klopp will give him a chance

Maidstone Eagle
28-06-2017, 06:19 PM
We could probably sign the 2 Ajax defenders for half of what Liverpool think they will get for Sakho !

Enough change for one other quality player perhaps

Might be better business.

Sick Bucket
28-06-2017, 06:27 PM
For what it's worth my Ajax supporting dutch mate said...

Well Veltman you can have and Tete needs to go but he is good. Veltman is shit.

Palace Bear
28-06-2017, 06:38 PM
Heard he's handy with a felt tips.

Does that mean he's good at pens too?

Sorry someone had to try and imprpve your rubbish joke :D

bourne man
28-06-2017, 08:19 PM
Sakho will be like Benteke last year
It'll run through the whole of the summer but we'll get him in the end
He wants to come and we want him we just have to lay a few smokescreen and keep Liverpool guessing

Jim Cannon
28-06-2017, 08:42 PM
For what it's worth my Ajax supporting dutch mate said...

Well Veltman you can have and Tete needs to go but he is good. Veltman is shit.

Hhhm Veltman has played quite a lot of games too. Never seen him myself so haven't got a clue

orp pisshead1
28-06-2017, 08:46 PM
A mistake in him...tell me who hasn't.
Ungainly... but effective.
What is certain is that he is solid, tackles well, commands his defenders, has positional awareness, has tons of energy, is a character, is a leader, and made a huge contribution in keeping us up. Get him in FDB.

Spot on and reads the game incredibly well. I think the 'mistake' rep in his game comes from his style.

orp pisshead1
28-06-2017, 08:47 PM
Does that mean he's good at pens too?

Sorry someone had to try and imprpve your rubbish joke :D

Harsh but :D:D

thereichstuff
29-06-2017, 04:55 PM
Is he franks first signing ?

Sick Bucket
29-06-2017, 05:09 PM
Hhhm Veltman has played quite a lot of games too. Never seen him myself so haven't got a clue

It gets worse...

'Veltman, a couple of dumb yellow and red cards guaranteed!'

That said I'd trust FDB judgement over my mate!

Pikie Punisher
29-06-2017, 05:21 PM
It gets worse...

'Veltman, a couple of dumb yellow and red cards guaranteed!'

Mind you, we used to say that about Jedi all day long and Paps takes a few risks too.

exiledeagle
29-06-2017, 06:10 PM
http://eurorivals.net/video/joel-veltman-fair-play-dribble-that-won-hatred-all-fans/3572485

Malarkey
29-06-2017, 06:23 PM
skillz

Palace121
29-06-2017, 06:24 PM
That was him!! Forgot about that. What a twat. Some people will now deem it clever though.

Seanee Pawnee
29-06-2017, 07:12 PM
Friend just sent me this

https://mobile.twitter.com/nicolajames09/status/880502504785666048

eaglebhoy
29-06-2017, 07:14 PM
Mind you, we used to say that about Jedi all day long and Paps takes a few risks too.

Was also the main entertainment to be found in the performances of big Claude Davis :bash:

chatham_eagle
29-06-2017, 07:23 PM
Quite a few people suggested we have been too honest as a team over the past few years. Very unsportsmanlike but we've not had a bastard in a while so maybe it's time.

eagles #1
29-06-2017, 07:26 PM
http://eurorivals.net/video/joel-veltman-fair-play-dribble-that-won-hatred-all-fans/3572485

Love that! :D Hopefully he does it against Brighton, scores, and jumps in to the Brighton fans throwing punches.

Jim Cannon
29-06-2017, 08:09 PM
Quite a few people suggested we have been too honest as a team over the past few years. Very unsportsmanlike but we've not had a bastard in a while so maybe it's time.

Lol

Would love us to do it against ManUre and get away with it

Palace121
29-06-2017, 08:28 PM
Lol

Would love us to do it against ManUre and get away with it

No chance. He'd be sent off for unsportsmanlike conduct against them.

Crunchie
29-06-2017, 08:56 PM
Friend just sent me this

https://mobile.twitter.com/nicolajames09/status/880502504785666048

http://voetbalflitsen.nl/nieuws/cergtj/veltman-gespot-op-schiphol-ajacied-gaat-dag-voor-eerste-training-vliegen-maar-waarheen

4 cryingOutloud
29-06-2017, 09:24 PM
Whoever negotiates contracts at Liverpool is an idiot ...

Any good salesman would tell you; you ask for all the money then see what you get offered. If you start low, you'll end up even lower.;)

Norwich_Eagle
29-06-2017, 09:31 PM
There is no chance that Liverpool will get the full "value" of what they want for Sakho. Offer 20m and add-ons and they'll accept in time.

Then spend another max of 20m on a RB and two more CBs we'll be fine

Old Joe Paxton
29-06-2017, 09:40 PM
There is no chance that Liverpool will get the full "value" of what they want for Sakho. Offer 20m and add-ons and they'll accept in time.

Then spend another max of 20m on a RB and two more CBs we'll be fine

How many centre halves you want then?

Eddie McGoldrick's tash
29-06-2017, 09:51 PM
There is no chance that Liverpool will get the full "value" of what they want for Sakho. Offer 20m and add-ons and they'll accept in time.

Then spend another max of 20m on a RB and two more CBs we'll be fine

You want us to buy 3 CBs?!!! So Sakho, Dann, Tomkins, Kelly, Delaney and 2 more?!!!
And no CMs?

Norwich_Eagle
29-06-2017, 10:41 PM
No, Sakho/Dann/Tomkins/Another left footed CB.

Plus a RB.

Can anyone honestly say that Delaney is Premier League standard anymore and would Kelly get in the side over a fit Dann or Tomkins?

Buying a young CB to be on the bench learning from the others can only be a good thing.

I realise this will never happen and other areas need looking at as well.

Sick Bucket
29-06-2017, 10:58 PM
Friend just sent me this

https://mobile.twitter.com/nicolajames09/status/880502504785666048

Replying to @EmielHKZ and 2 others
Misschien ligt het aan mij, maar ik vind het meer een gevoel van look-a-like zo langs de zijkant. Voorkant ook bevestigd?!

... .... @Ajacied1988

28 Jun

Replying to @EmielHKZ and 2 others
Tja misschien gaat hij op vakantie, of is hij net terug gekomen van vakantie... jeetje...


Translate's as...

Might just be me, but from the side angle I think it's a look-a-like.

and

Pfff maybe he's going on Holiday or just come back

Sick Bucket
29-06-2017, 11:03 PM
http://voetbalflitsen.nl/nieuws/cergtj/veltman-gespot-op-schiphol-ajacied-gaat-dag-voor-eerste-training-vliegen-maar-waarheen

Oh ok. That headline says 'Ajax player spotted at Schipol the day before the first day back at training'

Sounds promising then.

As I said earlier I'd trust FDB to know a decent CB when he sees one.

Eddie McGoldrick's tash
29-06-2017, 11:38 PM
Does anyone know/ remember what happened to the young Reading centre back we wanted to sign but then Chelsea stepped in and nicked him on deadline day? Can't remember his name to look up what he did last season.

EDIT: Michael Hector apparently spent last season playing in the Bundesliga on loan.

TWELLSEagle
30-06-2017, 06:39 AM
No, Sakho/Dann/Tomkins/Another left footed CB.

Plus a RB.

Can anyone honestly say that Delaney is Premier League standard anymore and would Kelly get in the side over a fit Dann or Tomkins?

Buying a young CB to be on the bench learning from the others can only be a good thing.

I realise this will never happen and other areas need looking at as well.

For me Kelly showed signs at the end of last season, that he could be a very good option for us at centre back. More than good enough for bench and a very able deputy.

Crystal Chris
30-06-2017, 08:36 AM
Imagine if we signed this guy before getting to 10 pages.

Dr Mags
30-06-2017, 08:40 AM
Imagine if we signed this guy before getting to 10 pages.


Killjoy

Jim Cannon
30-06-2017, 08:45 AM
Imagine if we signed this guy before getting to 10 pages.

Now that's just silly.

exiledeagle
30-06-2017, 09:04 AM
For me Kelly showed signs at the end of last season, that he could be a very good option for us at centre back. More than good enough for bench and a very able deputy.


Differing opinions but I think he is not good enough even as a back up

Eaglefoz
30-06-2017, 09:08 AM
No, Sakho/Dann/Tomkins/Another left footed CB.

Plus a RB.

Can anyone honestly say that Delaney is Premier League standard anymore and would Kelly get in the side over a fit Dann or Tomkins?

Buying a young CB to be on the bench learning from the others can only be a good thing.

I realise this will never happen and other areas need looking at as well.

Delaney will be our back up left footed CB. Sakho or A.N. Other will be the in the team, leaving right footed Dann or Tomkins plus Kelly? Centre backs sorted

Davy64
30-06-2017, 09:15 AM
Saw someone suggest he is a bit of a slow coach?

Super eagle
30-06-2017, 09:32 AM
Ajax fans either love him or hate him, but most people agree that he is underated

Terrace Bickle
30-06-2017, 09:46 AM
Oh ok. That headline says 'Ajax player spotted at Schipol the day before the first day back at training'

Sounds promising then.

As I said earlier I'd trust FDB to know a decent CB when he sees one.

Was he in departures though?

palacea
30-06-2017, 09:54 AM
Was he in departures though?

Tends to be when you drop bags off

Norwich_Eagle
30-06-2017, 12:44 PM
Surely we can do better than Delaney and Kelly though. That is my point, Delaney especially. I love the bloke for his passion and dedication and for Chelsea away if nothing else. But, it is time to move on.

McpfcS
30-06-2017, 12:48 PM
Delaney will be our back up left footed CB. Sakho or A.N. Other will be the in the team, leaving right footed Dann or Tomkins plus Kelly? Centre backs sorted

Delaney of Kelly featuring at any point in our PL season would be highly unsatisfactory.

Crystal Chris
30-06-2017, 12:49 PM
Spotted today Ibiza apparently.

Chief Brody
30-06-2017, 01:38 PM
Spotted today Ibiza apparently.

Odd, when their season starts the same time as ours. Unless they report back later than us in their preparations.

st albans
30-06-2017, 01:42 PM
Odd, when their season starts the same time as ours. Unless they report back later than us in their preparations.

We're in ibiza at the moment and two days ago Begovic was in our hotel

st albans
30-06-2017, 01:43 PM
Delaney of Kelly featuring at any point in our PL season would be highly unsatisfactory.

Delaney yes, but Kelly did more than enough at the back end of the season to prove himself a more than capable back up CB

Chief Brody
30-06-2017, 01:52 PM
Delaney yes, but Kelly did more than enough at the back end of the season to prove himself a more than capable back up CB

Parish met FdB in Ibiza....... Holy cow!

Eddie McGoldrick's tash
30-06-2017, 02:22 PM
Delaney of Kelly featuring at any point in our PL season would be highly unsatisfactory.
Delaney of Kelly... That sounds like a very posh title.

Eaglefoz
30-06-2017, 02:27 PM
Delaney of Kelly featuring at any point in our PL season would be highly unsatisfactory.

the point being that we have already signed Damian for another year so he will be there. Same as Kelly who some have said done a job for us at CB at the end of last year.

We have not got the resources to let players go so they are going to be back ups.

4 cryingOutloud
30-06-2017, 03:44 PM
Delaney will be our back up left footed CB. Sakho or A.N. Other will be the in the team, leaving right footed Dann or Tomkins plus Kelly? Centre backs sorted

You and a good few others are still thinking we'll be playing hoofball again and not adapting our style then? I don't think Sakho will be coming and unfortunately Kelly doesn't have the finesse to play the DeBoer way. From what's being published coupled with what we know about FDB I think our back line will be unrecognisable from what we've seen in the past. Time for thinking way outside the box, as it won't be more of the same.

brooklynlou
30-06-2017, 04:11 PM
You and a good few others are still thinking we'll be playing hoofball again and not adapting our style then? I don't think Sakho will be coming and unfortunately Kelly doesn't have the finesse to play the DeBoer way. From what's being published coupled with what we know about FDB I think our back line will be unrecognisable from what we've seen in the past. Time for thinking way outside the box, as it won't be more of the same.

We dont have the money to make an instant transformation.

We'll probably get one new ball playing central defender in the window that will pair with a fit Dann and/or Tomkins with Danno as 4th choice and Kelly as backup to Ward.

Next season when Danno gets off the books and either Kelly or Ward go, then you can add another.

If I had to wager on where we spend our money, it will be on midfielders. Cabaye and Punch are nearing (if not already past) their sell-by dates.

4 cryingOutloud
30-06-2017, 04:45 PM
We dont have the money to make an instant transformation.

We'll probably get one new ball playing central defender in the window that will pair with a fit Dann and/or Tomkins with Danno as 4th choice and Kelly as backup to Ward.

Next season when Danno gets off the books and either Kelly or Ward go, then you can add another.

If I had to wager on where we spend our money, it will be on midfielders. Cabaye and Punch are nearing (if not already past) their sell-by dates.

We don't have a clue what funds are available to FDB, but I have a feeling that Ward and Kelly will be surplus to requirements very soon and Dann too if a good offer comes in. IMO, we will have a new right back without doubt and our whole back line will be refreshed. I'm thinking there will be at least five new players arriving at the club, but we'll see what transpires in the next few weeks though.

As for Cabaye and Punch; Yes, they are both past their sell by date, but they are both ball players and fit into the FDB mould. Although they will be replaced, I don't see it happening this side of Christmas and probably not this season. :p

16eagles
30-06-2017, 09:32 PM
We don't have a clue what funds are available to FDB, but I have a feeling that Ward and Kelly will be surplus to requirements very soon and Dann too if a good offer comes in. IMO, we will have a new right back without doubt and our whole back line will be refreshed. I'm thinking there will be at least five new players arriving at the club, but we'll see what transpires in the next few weeks though.

As for Cabaye and Punch; Yes, they are both past their sell by date, but they are both ball players and fit into the FDB mould. Although they will be replaced, I don't see it happening this side of Christmas and probably not this season. :p

Yohan Cabaye passed his sell by date!! He could easily be our best player next year. Come on lad..

Worksop Palace
30-06-2017, 09:35 PM
Cabaye is nowhere near past his sell by date

Still got plenty to offer

DARZET EAGLE
30-06-2017, 09:56 PM
We don't have a clue what funds are available to FDB, but I have a feeling that Ward and Kelly will be surplus to requirements very soon and Dann too if a good offer comes in. IMO, we will have a new right back without doubt and our whole back line will be refreshed. I'm thinking there will be at least five new players arriving at the club, but we'll see what transpires in the next few weeks though.

As for Cabaye and Punch; Yes, they are both past their sell by date, but they are both ball players and fit into the FDB mould. Although they will be replaced, I don't see it happening this side of Christmas and probably not this season. :p

If Cabaye in particular is past his sell by date, I wouldn't mind signing a few more similarly afflicted. The only problem with Punch was his inability to score during the whole of last season. I am hoping FDB will be able to reignite this aspect of his game, he is one of the fittest players in the squad, ideal for the new managers pressing strategy.

AJ
30-06-2017, 10:27 PM
I wonder if Souare will be the number 1 LB, if he can still play at this level, as although not the best defender, he is very comfortable with the ball, can pass and probably the best crosser of the ball from the wing. Shlupp can play in midfield or on the wing. I am still not sure about PvA though, he has an eye for goal, but i really cant recall a good game at LB from him.

croydonexile
30-06-2017, 10:37 PM
Spotted today Ibiza apparently.

Spotted as in he posted it on his Instagram account.

Now to add to the conspiracy theories -

Jessica Parish is heading to Ibiza and her dad is on twitter tonight complaining he couldn't order a meal for his flight this evening....

TWELLSEagle
01-07-2017, 07:02 AM
I wonder if Souare will be the number 1 LB, if he can still play at this level, as although not the best defender, he is very comfortable with the ball, can pass and probably the best crosser of the ball from the wing. Shlupp can play in midfield or on the wing. I am still not sure about PvA though, he has an eye for goal, but i really cant recall a good game at LB from him.

Of the weath of left backs we now have (never thought I'd say that) PVA is best technically.

orp pisshead1
01-07-2017, 07:17 AM
Of the weath of left backs we now have (never thought I'd say that) PVA is best technically.

Going forward as he's awful defensively.

GodstoneEagle
01-07-2017, 08:00 AM
Van Aanholt is a brilliant footballer. Compare his actual footballing ability to Schlupp and it is worlds apart

knowlesyUCLA
01-07-2017, 08:26 AM
Van Aanholt is a brilliant footballer. Compare his actual footballing ability to Schlupp and it is worlds apart

If you think that football is only about attacking. PVA uses his pace to get himself out of trouble defensively all the time. Schlupp's defensive basics are far more sound.

I would also question PVA's mentality when it matters. There were times last season when he looked like he couldn't be arsed, Schlupp always did his job as best he could.

thereichstuff
01-07-2017, 08:34 AM
We're lucky to have both .

orp pisshead1
01-07-2017, 08:35 AM
Van Aanholt is a brilliant footballer. Compare his actual footballing ability to Schlupp and it is worlds apart

Here's me thinking he's a defender:rolleyes:

orp pisshead1
01-07-2017, 08:35 AM
If you think that football is only about attacking. PVA uses his pace to get himself out of trouble defensively all the time. Schlupp's defensive basics are far more sound.

I would also question PVA's mentality when it matters. There were times last season when he looked like he couldn't be arsed, Schlupp always did his job as best he could.

Spot on:p.

Crystal Chris
03-07-2017, 11:33 AM
Flying to Austria with the rest of the Ajax squad. Nothing happening here it seems.

GreatGonzo
03-07-2017, 11:37 AM
Flying to Austria with the rest of the Ajax squad. Nothing happening here it seems.

Sakho travelled pre-season with Liverpool last year! :D

Where people have pre-season has little bearing on where they do or do not play that season.


Most transfers are done in August and with the season underway.

gilesy14
03-07-2017, 11:43 AM
Delaney will be our back up left footed CB. Sakho or A.N. Other will be the in the team, leaving right footed Dann or Tomkins plus Kelly? Centre backs sorted

Would love to see Delaney play for a manager who has a philosophy based on Ajax & Barcelona, who play all their football on the deck. Maybe 50 yard diagonals are the missing piece of their jigsaw?

magician
03-07-2017, 11:53 AM
https://youtu.be/2Jl2m1UuqdY

rambo1
03-07-2017, 12:15 PM
Sakho travelled pre-season with Liverpool last year! :D

Where people have pre-season has little bearing on where they do or do not play that season.


Most transfers are done in August and with the season underway.

Absolutely.
As Previously Stated,you Get Better value as the Window Draws to a Close.

gilesy14
03-07-2017, 12:16 PM
https://youtu.be/2Jl2m1UuqdY

Yeah, a 50 yard, cultured pass to it's intended target can be quite a useful weapon. It's quite different to an aimless, long punt which Delaney happens to specialise in.

If you're actually comparing Delaney's contribution to De Boer's, I think your internet provider should be informed & your internet access revoked immediately.

Thefunkymonk
03-07-2017, 12:19 PM
https://youtu.be/2Jl2m1UuqdY

Haha...

Delaney is not de Boer...

Damo could never play a pass like that

asante_eagle
03-07-2017, 04:21 PM
Haha...

Delaney is not de Boer...

Damo could never play a pass like that
Thing is I think he could but I am not entirely sure that he would mean it though

4 cryingOutloud
03-07-2017, 05:27 PM
Thing is I think he could but I am not entirely sure that he would mean it though

Well, freak accidents (miss-kicks) happen now and again. :p

CP-RJW
03-07-2017, 05:29 PM
Haha...

Delaney is not de Boer...

Damo could never play a pass like that
De Boer would have been proud of that assist for Mcarthur's goal against the wankers to be fair.

TWELLSEagle
03-07-2017, 06:27 PM
Going forward as he's awful defensively.

I don't think he's awful, although his positioning is suspect. What I meant was his technical ability with the ball at his feat. Schlupp may well be the more reliable defender all round. I like both players. I think PVA's best position may in fact be wing back.

Pete79
03-07-2017, 06:29 PM
Absolutely.
As Previously Stated,you Get Better value as the Window Draws to a Close.


Do you? Is there evidence to support that or is it something you like to state as fact because you think it sounds insightful?

danpalace07
03-07-2017, 11:38 PM
Do you? Is there evidence to support that or is it something you like to state as fact because you think it sounds insightful?

One of the biggest myths in football

4 cryingOutloud
04-07-2017, 12:11 AM
Absolutely.
As Previously Stated,you Get Better value as the Window Draws to a Close.

Maybe, but the fruit is usually bruised and all the display has been well picked over.

Eddie McGoldrick's tash
04-07-2017, 12:24 AM
One of the biggest myths in football
I suspect the higher you go up the tree, the less it is true. However, we did get some very late bargains not so long ago.

Damo, Yala and Moritz in 2012. Then the deadline arrivals of Dann and Ledley.

fly eagle
04-07-2017, 08:47 AM
Lets not forget that the longer you wait the longer it will take to then have a settled team.
How many potential points could be lost while players settle into their new surroundings, new team mates and tactics and the whole squad adjusts?

I think its better to get players in as soon as possible. Gives them and the squad more time and before the season starts so you aren't playing catch up.

Unfortunately that will always be difficult to do when a manager comes in just as pre season starts because he will need time to asses his squad. Its not the end of the world though but lets not pretend that waiting to the last minute to buy players is actually a good strategy because we happen to be in that situation.

ForzaPalace
04-07-2017, 12:22 PM
Signed a contract extension with Ajax apparently

Old Joe Paxton
04-07-2017, 12:35 PM
seems so

Eddie McGoldrick's tash
04-07-2017, 12:39 PM
Fair enough

TC EAGLE
04-07-2017, 01:42 PM
Apparently he has only verbally agreed

https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=nl&sp=nmt4&u=http://www.telegraaf.nl/telesport/28537104/__Veltman_langer_bij_Ajax__.html&usg=ALkJrhjiY0-ai6oZIMGVOg1mfC05rH_b5w

Martin H
04-07-2017, 02:05 PM
Apparently he has only verbally agreed

https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=nl&sp=nmt4&u=http://www.telegraaf.nl/telesport/28537104/__Veltman_langer_bij_Ajax__.html&usg=ALkJrhjiY0-ai6oZIMGVOg1mfC05rH_b5w

Maybe that's a close shave because he sounds like a fussy eater:

In fact, he stays in principle and, in any event, he does not want an apple and an egg, if he does not want to be denied anyway.

adrenalin john
04-07-2017, 02:37 PM
Do you? Is there evidence to support that or is it something you like to state as fact because you think it sounds insightful?

A lot happens at the end of the window as replacements fall into place somewhat like a house chain.

But yes players who are 'surplus to requirement' are definitely cheaper near window end as club wish to move them on.

After all who wants a disgruntled player drawing a large wage on their books.

GreatGonzo
04-07-2017, 02:47 PM
One of the biggest myths in football

Its not a myth at all, the very best bargains are there on deadline day. You just have to find the players that a club needs to move on. The first year of 25 man squads there were a few deals i think but as clubs are more used to it less are getting caught our with 26-30 1st team players.

Spurs got Van Der Vaart cheap that way, we got Scott Dann that way too.

Take Sakho as an example. Liverpool want top money for him as is their right. On 31 August, if he is still there, they will be looking at a 2.5m hit to their wage bill at least and the probability of not getting a buyer at that price in January. They may decide they have to sell for what they can get. They will be hoping the opposite is true and that we are so desperate we will pay what we have to in order to get him.

Whilst you might be able to pick up a bargain, you may also have to pay over the odds if you are the club in desperate need of a player in a position at the selling clubs know this.

Works both ways.

CharlieCPFC
07-07-2017, 10:30 AM
Has been made Ajax's new skipper so doubt this is happening now.

JDawg
08-07-2017, 11:49 PM
Ajax fielded a team of kids that got to the Europa League final. They will be on most peoples shopping lists so its natural that Ajax will want to tie them down, to ramp the price if nothing else. The Erdivise is not a strong league and hasn't remotely the cash that the other major leagues in Europe have. Could be time to cash in.

Vince Hilaire's Afro
09-07-2017, 12:07 AM
My least favourite ghostbuster

jimmy the gent
09-07-2017, 06:27 AM
My least favourite ghostbuster

You've not seen the remake, i take it.

https://consequenceofsound.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/ghostbusters.jpg?quality=80&w=806&h=585

eaglejez
09-07-2017, 09:49 AM
its incredible how EVERY summer transfer window is the same. Wish we could wind forward to the desperation period straight away and give the long 'nothing happening for whatever reason even though everyone else does stuff ' stage :(

knowlesyUCLA
09-07-2017, 10:00 AM
its incredible how EVERY summer transfer window is the same. Wish we could wind forward to the desperation period straight away and give the long 'nothing happening for whatever reason even though everyone else does stuff ' stage :(

In fairness last summer we made good early progress with Mandanda, Tomkins and Townsend. Benteke was a drawn out affair but we got there in the end.

The change of manager has no doubt set us back a few weeks compared to some of our rivals so I think a bit of patience is required.

eaglejez
09-07-2017, 10:03 AM
In fairness last summer we made good early progress with Mandanda, Tomkins and Townsend. Benteke was a drawn out affair but we got there in the end.

The change of manager has no doubt set us back a few weeks compared to some of our rivals so I think a bit of patience is required.

fair point.

kabbott
18-07-2017, 09:05 PM
He played in a friendly for Ajax against Lyon (at Lyon) tonight. Lyon won 2:0.

One of Lyon's goals was scored by a 17 year-old by the name of Amine Gouiri who also finished top scorer this summer in the European U-17 Championships.

Nigelbrag
19-07-2017, 07:32 AM
He played in a friendly for Ajax against Lyon (at Lyon) tonight. Lyon won 2:0.

One of Lyon's goals was scored by a 17 year-old by the name of Amine Gouiri who also finished top scorer this summer in the European U-17 Championships.

No doubt that will be Gouiri pencilled in for PSG in the not too distant future, so no chance for a club like Palace.
Were you at the game? if so how did Ajax perform and in particular Veltman, or did any of their players stand out that maybe Frank de Boer could be interested in.

kabbott
21-07-2017, 07:17 PM
No doubt that will be Gouiri pencilled in for PSG in the not too distant future, so no chance for a club like Palace.
Were you at the game? if so how did Ajax perform and in particular Veltman, or did any of their players stand out that maybe Frank de Boer could be interested in.

No, I wasn't. The match was a "home" game but it was played in a small town called Bourgoin Jaillieu (they probably played at the rugby team's ground who have a decent stadium) about an hour's drive from Lyon out towards the Alps. I was at home watching the French women's team against Iceland in the Euros! :sunglasses:
I didn't really look at the match reports from the Dutch POV but rather, obviously, from Lyon's. Not only were they raving about this kid Gouiri, but they were also going on about another kid who made Gouiri's goal who goes by the name of Willem Geubbels and he's 15 years old! :eek:
PS: I'll be back if I find anything interesting about any of the Ajax players! :p