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karl.eldridge
05-07-2017, 01:35 PM
Coral says we're linked with him. Can't find anything else.

aj4england
05-07-2017, 01:45 PM
Yes yes yes! Exactly what we need

Martin H
05-07-2017, 01:59 PM
Crikey, I was banging on about him last year but thought he was well out of reach these days. TBH he was before the Euro win.

SilentAssassin
05-07-2017, 01:59 PM
Would be some signing that if we could afford it. The top Portuguese clubs always seem to get good money for their players.

16eagles
05-07-2017, 02:07 PM
Bate for Arsenal surely

RisZero
05-07-2017, 02:07 PM
This is the sort of player who was linked to the top clubs in our league a few years back. He is a DMC I thought though?

RisZero
05-07-2017, 02:08 PM
Bate for Arsenal surely

Going by the theory we help other clubs shift their players for a handout... who do we really want from Sporting? :D

mb23
05-07-2017, 02:19 PM
Would be great, but won't happen.

kit82
05-07-2017, 02:32 PM
DCM not a priority... in fact well down the list!!

Malarkey
05-07-2017, 02:33 PM
Surely won't happen...

CP-RJW
05-07-2017, 02:42 PM
This is the sort of player who was linked to the top clubs in our league a few years back. He is a DMC I thought though?
Well, and West Brom.

Wandle_Eagle
05-07-2017, 02:46 PM
I swear the Arse are being linked heavily with him. Would love this though...

RisZero
05-07-2017, 02:47 PM
Well, and West Brom.

They had no chance, like when Newcastle bid for Lacazette :D

exiledeagle
05-07-2017, 02:57 PM
Just read he is linked with a move most Summers , rated at 30 m , he is 14 stone .

He is a solid passer of the ball, but does often go for the safe option and has never really looked capable of being a player to pass through the lines or be the link man between defence and attack. He is an old fashioned destroyer who does his job very well before laying it off to the more creative players in his team.

Stavros 69
05-07-2017, 03:06 PM
Good player, just not what we need.

theCoach
05-07-2017, 03:11 PM
gone on record on here before on this one..(when I was ITK - keith millen) . I understand at the time of the euro finals that we were looking at him . Quite frankly he would be the single best player to ever put on a palace jersey in the clubs history .
he is simply a different gravy........and any likely destination would be to a champions league club.
don't get excited he aint coming here........(for the immediate future anyways !!!)

Richwak
05-07-2017, 03:11 PM
Top player, could move Cabaye further forward?

GreatGonzo
05-07-2017, 03:22 PM
Plays same role as Luka!

Nigelbrag
05-07-2017, 03:22 PM
Good player, but just can't see him and Luka giving us the correct midfield balance needed, for me it is one or the other, but Not both. However, Either would be far too good sitting on the bench and would never happen.

Adlerhorst
05-07-2017, 03:23 PM
Also won't he be really expensive? Like 30m expensive

cpfc4evandeva
05-07-2017, 03:42 PM
DCM not a priority... in fact well down the list!!

Agree, but you make exceptions for players like him.

I saw him live a few years ago for Sporting against Porto as a 21 year old, and he ran the game.

cpfc4evandeva
05-07-2017, 03:44 PM
Good player, but just can't see him and Luka giving us the correct midfield balance needed, for me it is one or the other, but Not both. However, Either would be far too good sitting on the bench and would never happen.

Having 2 defensive midfielders has worked for us before. It also gives license for the no.10 to do whatever the f*ck they want, knowing that he has 2 brick walls playing behind him.

james powell
05-07-2017, 03:46 PM
Can we just take this moment to appreciate some of the players in the "Transfer Hotline" at the moment ! :D

Carvalho, Tete, Sanchez, Zouma, Sakho, RVP, Babacar, Lima...madness !!

Martin H
05-07-2017, 03:51 PM
gone on record on here before on this one..(when I was ITK - keith millen) . I understand at the time of the euro finals that we were looking at him . Quite frankly he would be the single best player to ever put on a palace jersey in the clubs history .
he is simply a different gravy........and any likely destination would be to a champions league club.
don't get excited he aint coming here........(for the immediate future anyways !!!)

This is right I am sure. Not sure he would beat Lombardo but he is a top player and destined elsewhere I would suggest for now due to wanting a club in Europe I am sure. Also with Luka here already I would be surprised if we were looking to spend on anything but a backup DM with so many other weaker spots around. He is also huge and looks a lot bigger than the 1.87m he is credited. Monster in the middle.

SOUTHGATE EAGLE
05-07-2017, 04:11 PM
Good player, but just can't see him and Luka giving us the correct midfield balance needed, for me it is one or the other, but Not both. However, Either would be far too good sitting on the bench and would never happen.

I believe Luka started out as an AM and has already shown glimpses of good passing ability. I'm not certain Luka couldn't fill in well as a CM, which would allow Cabaye to play further forward. But spending this kind of money on anyone looks unlikely given the number of players we need and reported budget.

SOUTHGATE EAGLE
05-07-2017, 04:27 PM
Having 2 defensive midfielders has worked for us before. It also gives license for the no.10 to do whatever the f*ck they want, knowing that he has 2 brick walls playing behind him.

Good point.

Nigelbrag
05-07-2017, 04:32 PM
Having 2 defensive midfielders has worked for us before. It also gives license for the no.10 to do whatever the f*ck they want, knowing that he has 2 brick walls playing behind him.

I don't totally disagree, but even though i rated him highly previously and wanted Palace to get him if money was no object, but as he would be out of our range and there will be bigger fish for him to fry than us.
To get a better balance in midfield we need a more expressive player alongside Luka to compliment his game, in another post i suggested getting Chalobah to play alongside Luka even though he is very similar but is more fluent, also apparently is available for only 5m, whereas Carvalho even if we could attract him would cost in excess of 30m.
To complement them i would have Loftus-Cheek (on loan) as the attacking midfielder in a Midfield Three, with Zaha and Townsend wide.

Nigelbrag
05-07-2017, 04:57 PM
I believe Luka started out as an AM and has already shown glimpses of good passing ability. I'm not certain Luka couldn't fill in well as a CM, which would allow Cabaye to play further forward. But spending this kind of money on anyone looks unlikely given the number of players we need and reported budget.

I can only judge on what i have seen, as such Luka looks ready made for the the defensive role, i just don't think he has the pace nor the fluency of movement to fulfil the "attacking" role. Do you believe YC has the running or stamina to play that role?
See my comments in the above post as to what i felt might be the right person for the Attacking Midfielder role.
I still would say if we are to move up a gear in our play, the perfect Midfield balance7system for me would be (a) Luka, holding (b) Carrick, Playmaker/schemer (C) Loftus-Cheek, as the attacking midfielder (c) Wilf Zaha, the runner in a wandering free role. I accept Carrick at 36 is past his best, but its that type of quality we need central to control our passing.

Stinger1
05-07-2017, 05:15 PM
Would rather spend 30m on this guy than Sakho. Every time I've watched him he's been different class. He's a better version on Wanyama if you ask me. We wouldn't need centre-backs with Carvalho and Luka protecting!

cpfcfan1
05-07-2017, 05:17 PM
49013

CORALLLLLLL

gold76
05-07-2017, 06:13 PM
If we were going to sign one marquee player this summer for circa 30 million, this would be the one for me.

A top central pairing with Luka and would give Cabaye more legs.

Won't happen mind

CharlieCPFC
05-07-2017, 06:42 PM
He's on another level, one im surprised hasn't been snapped up by a top club. He was linked with Man City last season, but I feel we have Luka in to do that job now so that money should be better spent on real creators in the middle.

Stinger1
07-07-2017, 01:52 PM
Just scrolling through Skybet and it seems we are the 4/1 favourite to sign him. Not saying it's going to happen but quite amazing to think we're considered the favourites ahead of City, Arsenal, Barca and Liverpool.

Crystal Palace 4/1
Man City 9/2
Arsenal 9/1
Liverpool 12/1
Barcelona 14/1
West Brom 16/1
Newcastle 16/1
Everton 20/1
Southampton 25/1

meee
07-07-2017, 10:20 PM
We have Luka who is good yes but Carvalho is better.There are more important areas to improve but I see no reason why we shouldn't go for a top class player if we can.

Seanee Pawnee
08-07-2017, 10:02 PM
Can we just take this moment to appreciate some of the players in the "Transfer Hotline" at the moment ! :D

Carvalho, Tete, Sanchez, Zouma, Sakho, RVP, Babacar, Lima...madness !!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KMMOd8tw04&sns=em

Dobbo
10-08-2017, 06:45 AM
West Ham are preparing a 25m bid for Sporting Lisbon's 25-year-old midfielder William Carvalho

gold76
10-08-2017, 07:00 AM
On my dream list, along with Sporting striker Bas Dost!

Will be a beast..

CharlieCPFC
10-08-2017, 07:08 AM
On my dream list, along with Sporting striker Bas Dost!

Will be a beast..

He's an animal. I'd love Gelson Martins here, him and Wilf on the flanks would kill the best defences

If West Ham get Carvalho I'll take my hat off and say that's really pushed their chances of a top 10 finish.!

Carvahlo Kouyate
Antonio Lanzini Arnautovic
Hernandez

Malarkey
10-08-2017, 07:17 AM
Shame

Nigelbrag
10-08-2017, 07:38 AM
He's an animal. I'd love Gelson Martins here, him and Wilf on the flanks would kill the best defences

If West Ham get Carvalho I'll take my hat off and say that's really pushed their chances of a top 10 finish.!

Carvahlo Kouyate
Antonio Lanzini Arnautovic
Hernandez

That is one heck of a Top Six with goals galore from 5 of the 6, WH will be known as the "new entertainers" remember Newcastle?

Martin H
10-08-2017, 07:39 AM
Been watching this guy from afar for a long time as a dream option. Would be gutted if he turns up at WHam.

Stinger1
10-08-2017, 07:42 AM
West Ham are preparing a 25m bid for Sporting Lisbon's 25-year-old midfielder William Carvalho

No chance he's going for 25 million, too many other clubs interested. I think he would steal if they can get him at that price.

cpfc4evandeva
10-08-2017, 08:31 AM
It's crazy times when 25mil is a steal, but it's probably true. The guy will probably be worth double that after one good season in the Premier League.

Mr Palace
10-08-2017, 08:33 AM
West Ham making some brilliant signings and surging ahead of us I fear. This signing would be immense.

orp pisshead1
10-08-2017, 09:59 AM
West Ham making some brilliant signings and surging ahead of us I fear. This signing would be immense.

It's all the tax payers money they've got :veryangry:jerkit::veryangry.

Mr Palace
10-08-2017, 10:20 AM
It's all the tax payers money they've got :veryangry:jerkit::veryangry.

I know, can't stand those wankers.

RisZero
10-08-2017, 10:30 AM
I have a gut feeling they will still underperform and be looking for a new manager this season. My gut has been dumb on occasion though :D

Martin H
10-08-2017, 10:58 AM
West Ham making some brilliant signings and surging ahead of us I fear. This signing would be immense.

It feels like that most years though but they manage to screw it up.

Mr Palace
10-08-2017, 11:02 AM
It feels like that most years though but they manage to screw it up.

I hope so!

GreatGonzo
10-08-2017, 11:04 AM
It feels like that most years though but they manage to screw it up.

They still have to play in a stadium with no atmosphere though.

Friskey
10-08-2017, 11:10 AM
Looks good but I'm not sure he would adapt to our league (considering the price).

Very slow.

4 cryingOutloud
10-08-2017, 02:59 PM
The name William Carvalho doesn't sound very Dutch to me.

Martin H
10-08-2017, 03:55 PM
The name William Carvalho doesn't sound very Dutch to me.

How about Willem Van Carvalho?

westsussexcpfc
10-08-2017, 04:23 PM
Dreaming boys, would be great but never going to happen.
West Ham have bid a club record 27.1M

Martin H
10-08-2017, 04:31 PM
I don't think we will be spending big there unless Yohan is leaving.

brooklynlou
10-08-2017, 05:17 PM
They still have to play in a stadium with no atmosphere though.

They have tons of atmosphere, and when they need more, they just pump up the volume.

http://www.101greatgoals.com/news/incredible-revelation-west-ham-pump-crowd-noise-new-stadium-tweets/

theCoach
11-08-2017, 08:00 AM
Looks good but I'm not sure he would adapt to our league (considering the price).

Very slow.

You are so wrong.this boy is the guvnor and would boss any game.....doesnt get forward like yaya toure in his prime but on a par in every other way.
Amazing talent
Keep the faith

RisZero
14-08-2017, 01:31 PM
Seems like this one might be well out of our price range after all

Kaveh Solhekol‏ Verified account @SkyKaveh

West Ham in advanced talks to sign William Carvalho. Midfielder not in Sporting Lisbon squad for CL qualifier tomorrow. 30m plus add ons

eagle69
14-08-2017, 01:47 PM
Seems like this one might be well out of our price range after all

TAX FREE INCENTIVE PURCHASE

4 cryingOutloud
14-08-2017, 03:21 PM
Seems like this one might be well out of our price range after all

It's the VAT that would kill us:p:love:

ForzaPalace
14-08-2017, 03:22 PM
Good signing, big price but they can afford it, we can't

4 cryingOutloud
14-08-2017, 04:37 PM
Good signing, big price but they can afford it, we can't

It's becoming very apparent that we can't afford anyone. New system with the same old crew will not work, as we all saw on Saturday.

DARZET EAGLE
14-08-2017, 09:40 PM
It's becoming very apparent that we can't afford anyone. New system with the same old crew will not work, as we all saw on Saturday.

It just may be that we are not prepared to pay astronomical fees and wages for average players and commission their agents.

glaziers fan
14-08-2017, 09:44 PM
hoping this happens (WC to West Ham) so we can pinch wilshere from under their noses in 15 days time.

cpfc4evandeva
14-08-2017, 09:53 PM
hoping this happens (WC to West Ham) so we can pinch wilshere from under their noses in 15 days time.

What?! Different types of midfielders but out of a choice of the two, only a madman would take Wilshere.

Oh wait, it's you.

dufski13
14-08-2017, 09:56 PM
What?! Different types of midfielders but out of a choice of the two, only a madman would take Wilshere.

Oh wait, it's you.

Wilshere has played excellently in the Premier league & is still young. If he could be kept fit then I'd take Wilshere over Carvalho every day

glaziers fan
14-08-2017, 09:56 PM
What?! Different types of midfielders but out of a choice of the two, only a madman would take Wilshere.

Oh wait, it's you.

WC is 30m+. Wilshere will be half that. Both super-talented. One is a left-footed replacement for Puncheon. The other is Luka's replacement. Call me a madman, but I know who I'd rather have

glaziers fan
14-08-2017, 09:58 PM
Wilshere has played excellently in the Premier league & is still young. If he could be kept fit then I'd take Wilshere over Carvalho every day

Yes, Premiership experience as well, thanks for pointing that argument out. Who's the madman now! :angel:

Worksop Palace
15-08-2017, 06:29 AM
hoping this happens (WC to West Ham) so we can pinch wilshere from under their noses in 15 days time.

Wilshere wouldn't fit in

Our treatment room is pretty full

Jim Cannon
15-08-2017, 06:30 AM
Wilshere has played excellently in the Premier league & is still young. If he could be kept fit then I'd take Wilshere over Carvalho every day

When he gets injured again he will be fecking useless to anyone.

Oli28
15-08-2017, 06:34 AM
Yes, Premiership experience as well, thanks for pointing that argument out. Who's the madman now! :angel:
Pointing out that jack wilshire has played in the Premier League before doesn't make the suggestion any less daft, especially in comparison to WC

BillyTKid
15-08-2017, 07:21 AM
We have five centre midfielders to choose from in a system that only plays two. Looks like the budget is low and we need two strikers, a goalkeeper and a centre back.

Harry Bassett
15-08-2017, 07:28 AM
Carvahlo is a superb player as was Wilshire but you cannot compare the two irrespective of Wilshires injuries or future because they play different roles.

gold76
15-08-2017, 07:32 AM
Carvalho is a beast Wilshere a more dainty unicorn, pretty to look at but fragile

glaziers fan
15-08-2017, 07:36 AM
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/4230880/arsenal-jack-wilshere-newcastle-transfer-news/

So, he wants to stay in London. So we can rule out Newcastle. We can rule out Bournemouth because the manager dropped him. We can rule out the Italian clubs (unless the lure of Juventus is too much) because he has said he doesn't want to go abroad. Will West Ham still pursue him after landing WC? If not then that leaves us in pole position.

stinky
15-08-2017, 07:38 AM
Yes, Premiership experience as well, thanks for pointing that argument out. Who's the madman now! :angel:

Premier League

Worksop Palace
15-08-2017, 07:42 AM
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/4230880/arsenal-jack-wilshere-newcastle-transfer-news/

So, he wants to stay in London. So we can rule out Newcastle. We can rule out Bournemouth because the manager dropped him. We can rule out the Italian clubs (unless the lure of Juventus is too much) because he has said he doesn't want to go abroad. Will West Ham still pursue him after landing WC? If not then that leaves us in pole position.

Wtf would we want to be in pole position for this overrated walking plastercast ? He blobbed on us last season and chose Bournemouth and we've got CM coming out of our ears. We need a CB and a striker pronto.

Jack 'glass back' Wilshere can frankly **** right off

Imo of course

cpfcfan1
15-08-2017, 07:47 AM
Walking plaster cast lol

glaziers fan
15-08-2017, 08:06 AM
Walking plaster cast lol

He managed 29 games last season. Vincent Kompany would kill for that!

9Freedman9
15-08-2017, 08:15 AM
It just may be that we are not prepared to pay astronomical fees and wages for average players and commission their agents.

Unfortunately that is now the way of the Transfer Market, everyone is in the same boat and if we are the only ones not signing players because of this, then it is going to be a very long season indeed.....

cpfc4evandeva
15-08-2017, 08:47 AM
He lit it up at Bournemouth last year :D

Wilshere will end up playing for someone like Villa or Wolves in the end, when people finally realise that you get on average 2 good games from him each season.

cpfc4evandeva
15-08-2017, 08:49 AM
Carvahlo is a superb player as was Wilshire but you cannot compare the two irrespective of Wilshires injuries or future because they play different roles.

They do play different kind of roles but they both play in the middle of the park.

If it's a choice between the two, only a madman would pick Wilshere imo.

Stavros 69
15-08-2017, 09:10 AM
Bet Wilshere ends up at us or Watford.

DARZET EAGLE
15-08-2017, 09:53 AM
Bet Wilshere ends up at us or Watford.

Or stays at Arsenal.

costello
15-08-2017, 09:59 AM
We need energy in midfield. Wilshere does not give you that.

Harry Bassett
15-08-2017, 10:08 AM
We need energy in midfield. Wilshere does not give you that.

I suspect that Loftus Cheek can provide the energy what we so badly lack is creativity "which a fit " Wilshire type player could provide.

Stavros 69
15-08-2017, 10:22 AM
Or stays at Arsenal.
You could be right, I just think his days were numbered the moment he went out of loan. Plus all that generation looks to be coming to the end at Arsenal.

I'd love him here.
Lets face it he would pass a medical no problem :supergrin:

Calmc
15-08-2017, 10:41 AM
They do play different kind of roles but they both play in the middle of the park.

If it's a choice between the two, only a madman would pick Wilshere imo.
Once fit, if you actually look at his passing stats they are as good as yohan's if not better, and out the two Wilshire is much more mobile stronger in a tackle and more adaptive to style of play that FdB is currently implementing. But dont get me wrong this is not the area we need to focus of course i would have him, but a striker or two is what we really need!

MasterYoda
16-08-2017, 05:14 AM
Papers saying Carvalho is 40m. We can stop talking about that now

Eaglefoz
16-08-2017, 06:15 AM
Papers saying Carvalho is 40m. We can stop talking about that now

Just coz he is in the thread title does not mean he is being talked about. This is the BBS!

AJ8
16-08-2017, 06:19 AM
Papers saying Carvalho is 40m. We can stop talking about that now

Nobody is talking about Carvalho, they're taking about Jack Wilshere.

theCoach
16-08-2017, 08:33 AM
carvalho is one player who is worth 40m and would make my world X1 if i could be arsed to pick one.
wilshere unfortunately is too much of a risk given his fitness record. loan only which is no longer possible this year

Thefunkymonk
16-08-2017, 08:35 AM
carvalho is one player who is worth 40m and would make my world X1 if i could be arsed to pick one.
wilshere unfortunately is too much of a risk given his fitness record. loan only which is no longer possible this year

Thankfully seems carvalho's move to spammers has fallen through

Spindle
16-08-2017, 08:41 AM
You could be right, I just think his days were numbered the moment he went out of loan. Plus all that generation looks to be coming to the end at Arsenal.

I'd love him here.
Lets face it he would pass a medical no problem :supergrin:

As long as his wheelchair passes an MOT he's passed our medical

Spindle
16-08-2017, 08:45 AM
WC is 30m+. Wilshere will be half that. Both super-talented. One is a left-footed replacement for Puncheon. The other is Luka's replacement. Call me a madman, but I know who I'd rather have

Everyone is rating Luka highly but my jury is out. I've seen a lot of errors from him many leading to goals. 2 v Burnley at the end of last season. 1 in the friendly and the 2nd Huddersfield goal where Ward is blamed was caused by Luka failing to press his man leaving Ward exposed. Watch Ward spot the problem and gesture just before the goal.

Jim Cannon
16-08-2017, 12:00 PM
He managed 29 games last season. Vincent Kompany would kill for that!

Wenger claiming Wilshere staying put this season. Good. He can spend long chunks of it on their treatment table and not ours